Re: [gmx-users] pdb2gmx... cys-cys bonds....

2006-12-07 Thread Mark Abraham

sharada wrote:

Hello gromacs users,

I am trying to molecular dynamics simulations on a 30 residues protein. 
I am protonating  all the six cysteins after breaking their disulphide 
bonds. This linear non-disulphide bond structure is my starting 
structure for my simulations. After a 5ns  dynamics run I would like to 
take the final structure and subsequently form the native bonds again 
and simulate it further for 5 ns. Cys-Cys distances have increased 
considerably after the simulations.  I am unable to form the cys-cys 
bonds using the pdb2gmx  as the S-S distances  are not within the 
disulphide bond range. 


There'd be a good reason for this... it would be an unphysically long 
bond, and the subsequent dynamics would be weird. If you want to re-form 
the bond, do some more MD with a short harmonic restraint between the 
two sulfur atoms, and then we they are close enough, alter the topology 
in the way you describe.


Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] pdb2gmx... cys-cys bonds....

2006-12-07 Thread sharada

Dear  Dr. Mark Abraham,

Thank you for the response. I am into desiging small antibacterial 
peptides with cysteins. I would have to play around with forming 
different combination of disulphide bonds and check the stereochemical 
properties and further design them experimentally to see if they are 
active. I have many peptides  to build models of a lot of  structures 
with different Cys-Cys combinations  for my simulations as my starting 
structures.  If I want to form only those cys-cys pairs then yes I would 
have done the MD with harmonic restraints and bring it near.   I have to 
check  the proximal cys-cys distances and then make a decision on 
building only those disulphide bonds whose S-S distance are  in the 
range of 4A to 5A.Can I change the pdb2gmx program to make this 
decision?   Is it  possible to change the code?  if so how do I 
incorporate these changes. I think the pdb2gmx program is checking for 
S-S distance to less than or equal to 2A and makes the bond . Am I right 
? Is there a way out in this direction. Kindly help or any other 
suggestion is welcome. Anticipating for a reply.


Regards,
sharada


Mark Abraham wrote:


sharada wrote:


Hello gromacs users,

I am trying to molecular dynamics simulations on a 30 residues 
protein. I am protonating  all the six cysteins after breaking their 
disulphide bonds. This linear non-disulphide bond structure is my 
starting structure for my simulations. After a 5ns  dynamics run I 
would like to take the final structure and subsequently form the 
native bonds again and simulate it further for 5 ns. Cys-Cys 
distances have increased considerably after the simulations.  I am 
unable to form the cys-cys bonds using the pdb2gmx  as the S-S 
distances  are not within the disulphide bond range. 



There'd be a good reason for this... it would be an unphysically long 
bond, and the subsequent dynamics would be weird. If you want to 
re-form the bond, do some more MD with a short harmonic restraint 
between the two sulfur atoms, and then we they are close enough, alter 
the topology in the way you describe.


Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] pdb2gmx... cys-cys bonds....

2006-12-07 Thread Mark Abraham

sharada wrote:

Dear  Dr. Mark Abraham,

Thank you for the response. I am into desiging small antibacterial 
peptides with cysteins. I would have to play around with forming 
different combination of disulphide bonds and check the stereochemical 
properties and further design them experimentally to see if they are 
active. I have many peptides  to build models of a lot of  structures 
with different Cys-Cys combinations  for my simulations as my starting 
structures.  If I want to form only those cys-cys pairs then yes I would 
have done the MD with harmonic restraints and bring it near.   I have to 
check  the proximal cys-cys distances and then make a decision on 
building only those disulphide bonds whose S-S distance are  in the 
range of 4A to 5A.Can I change the pdb2gmx program to make this 
decision?   Is it  possible to change the code?


You don't really want to change pdb2gmx. You want to write a Perl script 
that automates the disulfide bond selection process, does the harmonic 
restraint MD, and then simulates using a vaguely sensible disulfide 
starting structure.


 if so how do I 
incorporate these changes. I think the pdb2gmx program is checking for 
S-S distance to less than or equal to 2A and makes the bond . Am I right 
? 


You can edit specbond.dat yourself... the format isn't described in the 
manual, if I recall correctly, but it's pretty obvious... you just 
increase a 0.2 to 0.4 or some such.


Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] Re: fudgeQQ (again ...)

2006-12-07 Thread Lianqing Zheng
Thanks, Janne!

No, I tried not having [pairs] or having empty [pairs] because the manual
says it's not necessary if generate pairs = yes.

Lianqing


On Thu, 7 Dec 2006, Janne Hirvi wrote:

Hello!

Just a simple question - Do you have [pairs]-section in your topology file?

Janne


 Dear GMX-users,
 
 Here are a followup and more details for my problem. I really hope to get
 through this, so I can move on ...
 
 I report the electrostatic energy (Uq, kJ/mol) for a molecule using 3
 codes.
 
 1. Gromacs 3.3
 [default]
 1 1 yes 0.5 FudgeQQ
 
 FudgeQQ  [moleculetype]   Uq
 0.0, 0.8333, or 1.0   mol   3116.050
 0.0, 0.8333, or 1.0   mol   2   -413.048
 
 2. DLPOLY with scaling factor of 0.8
 Uq = -324.68
 
 3. My own code
 Scaling factor   Uq
 0.0115.99
 0.8-324.68
 1.0-412.81
 
 Apparently, Gromacs gives the value without 1-4 interactions with mol 3,
 and the value for full 1-4 interactions with mol 2, regardless of
 fudgeQQ.
 
 Did I not do something right when using Gromacs?
 
 Thanks A LOT for your help! BTW: the Gromacs website seems down.
 
 Lianqing
 
 On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, Lianqing Zheng wrote:
 
 Dear GMX-users,
 
 I'm doing normal mode analysis for one molecule and found the calculated
 electrostatic energy (at t=0) doesn't change at all regardless of the
 value for fudgeQQ. (I used 1 1 yes 0.5 0.8 for [default] and
 molecule 2 for [moleculetype].) If I use molecule 3, the value will
 change but is still independent of fudgeQQ.
 
 Any idea what the problem is? I'll be happy to send you the input files if
 you need them. 
 
 Thanks a lot!
 
 Lianqing
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[gmx-users] GROMACS with MPI/GAMMA

2006-12-07 Thread Tony Ladd
I recently ran GROMACS benchmarks (villin and DPPC) using Gigabit Ethernet
with TCP and GAMMA protocols. GAMMA gives significantly better scaling than
TCP as can be seen from the following sample timings. The serial results are
in the usual nanosecs/day units and the speedup is measured with respect to
the serial time.

The nodes were dual-core P4D (3.0GHz) with Intel Pro 1000 NICS. The switch
was Extreme Networks x450a-48t.
I also compared with dual Opterons (2 X 275) with 4 cores per node and an
Infiniband interconnect. Multi-node runs use all the cores on an individual
node.

Serial:  Intel P4DOpteron 275
 DPPC  0.2090.257
Villin10.1011.49

Speedup DPPC:
 Intel P4D   Opteron 275
CPUS   LAM   OpenMPI   MPI/GAMMA   Infiniband
  2  2.33 2.352.33  2.33
  44.27   4.314.34  4.39
  6  5.74 
  87.52   7.527.858.23
 129.50   7.88   10.5 9.42
 16   11.27.67   12.910.4
 20   7.85   14.3
 24   8.179.24   15.412.7
 32   4.44   11.016.213.4
 40   9.17   15.0
 48   6.70   13.213.8
 64   4.17   10.011.5

Speedup Villin:
 Intel P4D   Opteron 275
CPUS   LAM   OpenMPI   MPI/GAMMA   Infiniband
  2  1.94 1.872.05  1.95
  42.52   2.332.73  3.27
  6  2.85 
  82.85   2.473.464.24
 122.52   2.153.334.00
 161.94   1.792.744.00
 20   1.402.20
 240.32   1.081.733.00
 32   0.661.112.00

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[gmx-users] How to construct PMF from the result of AFM pulling?

2006-12-07 Thread clark
Dear all:
   I have some problems about how to construct PMF(Potential of Mean Force) 
from the result of AFM pulling function in Gromacs.After the pull.pdo file 
was obtained and the force was calculated using the scripts writen by Prof. , 
How can I get the PMF from the result(coordinate and force)? 
   In theory, Should I have to perform several AFM pulling simulation from 
different start points(conformation and velocity)??
   Thanks!I will appreciate it if some one would help me solve this 
problem? 

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[gmx-users] GROMACS with MPI/GAMMA

2006-12-07 Thread Tony Ladd
I sent the previous message before including comments:

The Opteron 275 is 10-25% faster than the P4D for GROMACS. However the
Opteron loses some of its edge when running dual threads. MPI/GAMMA
outperforms both LAM and OpenMPI by a significant margin on DPPC and Villin
benchmarks. With DPPC MPI/GAMMA scales as well as Infiniband but for Villin
it is about 75% of the Infiniband performance. The reduced latency and more
efficient flow control with the GAMMA protocol makes a significant
difference to the scalability of Gigabit ethernet. In general the Intel NICS
with GAMMA perform better than proprietary RDMA NICS from Ammasso and Level
5 networks.

I had to make a small change to Gromacs 3.3 to get MPI/GAMMA to run. In
futil.c line 102 the code tries to close a NULL pointer which strictly
speaking is illegal. This causes GAMMA to hang. It seems harmless to comment
it out.

More details can be found at
http://ladd.che.ufl.edu/research/beoclus/beoclus.htm
The GAMMA website is http://www.disi.unige.it/project/gamma/mpigamma

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[gmx-users] Re: fudgeQQ (again ...)

2006-12-07 Thread Janne Hirvi
Hi!

I am not exactly sure but I think that there should be [pairs] section with all
pairs named and the function number (=1) included but without any parameters
which are then generated by Gromacs if generate pairs = yes. You can check
from the .log -file if you have any 1-4 Coulombic (or 1-4 Lennard-Jones)
interactions included in your case. 

Janne


 Thanks, Janne!
 
 No, I tried not having [pairs] or having empty [pairs] because the manual
 says it's not necessary if generate pairs = yes.
 
 Lianqing
 
 
 On Thu, 7 Dec 2006, Janne Hirvi wrote:
 
 Hello!
 
 Just a simple question - Do you have [pairs]-section in your topology file?
 
 Janne
 
 
  Dear GMX-users,
  
  Here are a followup and more details for my problem. I really hope to get
  through this, so I can move on ...
  
  I report the electrostatic energy (Uq, kJ/mol) for a molecule using 3
  codes.
  
  1. Gromacs 3.3
  [default]
  1 1 yes 0.5 FudgeQQ
  
  FudgeQQ  [moleculetype]   Uq
  0.0, 0.8333, or 1.0   mol   3116.050
  0.0, 0.8333, or 1.0   mol   2   -413.048
  
  2. DLPOLY with scaling factor of 0.8
  Uq = -324.68
  
  3. My own code
  Scaling factor   Uq
  0.0115.99
  0.8-324.68
  1.0-412.81
  
  Apparently, Gromacs gives the value without 1-4 interactions with mol
 3,
  and the value for full 1-4 interactions with mol 2, regardless of
  fudgeQQ.
  
  Did I not do something right when using Gromacs?
  
  Thanks A LOT for your help! BTW: the Gromacs website seems down.
  
  Lianqing
  
  On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, Lianqing Zheng wrote:
  
  Dear GMX-users,
  
  I'm doing normal mode analysis for one molecule and found the calculated
  electrostatic energy (at t=0) doesn't change at all regardless of the
  value for fudgeQQ. (I used 1 1 yes 0.5 0.8 for [default] and
  molecule 2 for [moleculetype].) If I use molecule 3, the value will
  change but is still independent of fudgeQQ.
  
  Any idea what the problem is? I'll be happy to send you the input files
 if
  you need them. 
  
  Thanks a lot!
  
  Lianqing

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[gmx-users] GROMACS exit codes; error in LAM installation?

2006-12-07 Thread Alan Dodd
Hello,
(background)
I recently compiled a new version of the 3.2.1 mdrun to make use of the lam 
7.1.2 that's just been installed.  For some reason, I can't get a run to work 
with it - it goes fine until:

Back Off! I just backed up enerG.edr to ./#enerG.edr.1#
starting mdrun '?'
143 steps,   2145.0 ps.

whereupon one of the processes (always n3, no matter which physical machine it 
is) exits for no obvious reason.

The signal given is 11 - I can't find reference to this in the Gromacs or lam 
source, so I don't know what it means.  Cranking up the verbosity on everything 
I can sheds no further light on it.  I'm guessing I did something not quite 
right in the installation, but without more information, there's no way to know 
how to fix it.

Anyway:
So, does anyone know what this exit code means?  (and, ideally, how to avoid 
it...)


 

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[gmx-users] How to simulate a protein that contains two cuban cluster

2006-12-07 Thread Stefan Schöbel
Hei, 

I want to simulate a  protein that contains two cuban clusters with gromacs, so 
I want to know which forcefield is recommended to use for Fe-S compounds. On 
the other hand I can use Gaussian software using the UFF forcefield. Because i 
am new to this field (master student doing an internship) I would like to know 
which is better to use, it's only to treat the whole protein plus clusters 
mechanically. Later I will use Oniom methods with gaussian.

Hope someone has the answer... :)


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Re: [gmx-users] Re: fudgeQQ (again ...)

2006-12-07 Thread Lianqing Zheng
Thanks a lot, Janne! I finally got it! Thanks for your inspiration! I
added 1-4 pairs in [pairs] and then got the right values. I thought
Gromacs would automatically find 1-4 pairs.

Lianqing

On Thu, 7 Dec 2006, Janne Hirvi wrote:

Hi!

I am not exactly sure but I think that there should be [pairs] section with all
pairs named and the function number (=1) included but without any parameters
which are then generated by Gromacs if generate pairs = yes. You can check
from the .log -file if you have any 1-4 Coulombic (or 1-4 Lennard-Jones)
interactions included in your case. 

Janne


 Thanks, Janne!
 
 No, I tried not having [pairs] or having empty [pairs] because the manual
 says it's not necessary if generate pairs = yes.
 
 Lianqing
 
 
 On Thu, 7 Dec 2006, Janne Hirvi wrote:
 
 Hello!
 
 Just a simple question - Do you have [pairs]-section in your topology file?
 
 Janne
 
 
  Dear GMX-users,
  
  Here are a followup and more details for my problem. I really hope to get
  through this, so I can move on ...
  
  I report the electrostatic energy (Uq, kJ/mol) for a molecule using 3
  codes.
  
  1. Gromacs 3.3
  [default]
  1 1 yes 0.5 FudgeQQ
  
  FudgeQQ  [moleculetype]   Uq
  0.0, 0.8333, or 1.0   mol   3116.050
  0.0, 0.8333, or 1.0   mol   2   -413.048
  
  2. DLPOLY with scaling factor of 0.8
  Uq = -324.68
  
  3. My own code
  Scaling factor   Uq
  0.0115.99
  0.8-324.68
  1.0-412.81
  
  Apparently, Gromacs gives the value without 1-4 interactions with mol
 3,
  and the value for full 1-4 interactions with mol 2, regardless of
  fudgeQQ.
  
  Did I not do something right when using Gromacs?
  
  Thanks A LOT for your help! BTW: the Gromacs website seems down.
  
  Lianqing
  
  On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, Lianqing Zheng wrote:
  
  Dear GMX-users,
  
  I'm doing normal mode analysis for one molecule and found the calculated
  electrostatic energy (at t=0) doesn't change at all regardless of the
  value for fudgeQQ. (I used 1 1 yes 0.5 0.8 for [default] and
  molecule 2 for [moleculetype].) If I use molecule 3, the value will
  change but is still independent of fudgeQQ.
  
  Any idea what the problem is? I'll be happy to send you the input files
 if
  you need them. 
  
  Thanks a lot!
  
  Lianqing

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[gmx-users] charges for non-natural residues with gromos 53a6

2006-12-07 Thread Carsten Baldauf

dear all//
i need to parameterize a non-natural amino acid residue.
i have a problem with assigning the charges, how should i scale them? i 
can obtain quantum chemical charges from AM1 to {HF,DFT}/6-31G* and 
further, but how to include (scaling, i now where to write them) them in 
the force field?

thanks a lot//
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Re: [gmx-users] GROMACS exit codes; error in LAM installation?

2006-12-07 Thread Ansgar Esztermann
On Thu, Dec 07, 2006 at 08:30:30AM -0800, Alan Dodd wrote:
 
 whereupon one of the processes (always n3, no matter which physical machine 
 it is) exits for no obvious reason.
 
 The signal given is 11 - I can't find reference to this in the Gromacs or lam 
 source, so I don't know what it means.  Cranking up the verbosity on 
 everything I can sheds no further light on it.  I'm guessing I did something 
 not quite right in the installation, but without more information, there's no 
 way to know how to fix it.

Signal 11 is a segfault, i.e. something goes very wrong.
It's hard to say anything definite at this point, but are you sure that 
the mpicc and lamboot you use belong to the same version of lam?
If there is an old lamd (say, 7.1.1) hanging around, using a 7.1.2
mpicc might lead to a crash.


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[gmx-users] charges for non-natural residues with gromos 53a6

2006-12-07 Thread Carsten Baldauf

the problems gets more difficult to me ... :-(

i want to substitute a single peptide bond in a normal sequence with an 
ester bond. i have problems finding the right parameters for an ester 
bond, does somebody has done something similar? i would be very happy 
about any help.

thanks in advance//
carsten

dear all//
i need to parameterize a non-natural amino acid residue.
i have a problem with assigning the charges, how should i scale them? i
can obtain quantum chemical charges from AM1 to {HF,DFT}/6-31G* and
further, but how to include (scaling, i now where to write them) them in
the force field?
thanks a lot//
carsten


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[gmx-users] Re: fudgeQQ (again ...)

2006-12-07 Thread chris . neale

Thanks a lot, Janne! I finally got it! Thanks for your inspiration! I
added 1-4 pairs in [pairs] and then got the right values. I thought
Gromacs would automatically find 1-4 pairs.


send the structure to pdb2gmx and the value of genpairs will be  
determined from your ffXXX.itp file. As far as I know, this is only in  
this way that the [pairs] section will be generated in the output.top  
file. If your system is not a protein, then you need to add the paris  
section (and in fact create the entire .top file) by hand.


By the way, why are you using the combination of genpairs=yes  
fudgeLJ=0.5 and fudgeQQ=0.8333 ? This is not a valid combination for  
any force field that comes in the standard gromacs distribution.


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Re: [gmx-users] Re: fudgeQQ (again ...)

2006-12-07 Thread Qiao Baofu

2006/12/7, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


By the way, why are you using the combination of genpairs=yes
fudgeLJ=0.5 and fudgeQQ=0.8333 ? This is not a valid combination for
any force field that comes in the standard gromacs distribution.




Hi,

I am puzzled about this. In your opinion, when I  use  genpairs=no, fudgeLJ=
0.5 and fudgeQQ=0.8333, are these scaling factors, 0.5 and 0.8333, useful?
On the other hand, when using genpairs=yes, how to set the scaling factor of
fudgeLJ and fudgeQQ?$
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Re: [gmx-users] Re: fudgeQQ (again ...)

2006-12-07 Thread Lianqing Zheng
Thanks, Chris!

I'm using AMBER FF, so those are the scaling factors in this force
field. Actually I never used standard Gromacs/Gromos ff and always make my
own top file from scratch.

Lianqing


On Thu, 7 Dec 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks a lot, Janne! I finally got it! Thanks for your inspiration! I
 added 1-4 pairs in [pairs] and then got the right values. I thought
 Gromacs would automatically find 1-4 pairs.

send the structure to pdb2gmx and the value of genpairs will be  
determined from your ffXXX.itp file. As far as I know, this is only in  
this way that the [pairs] section will be generated in the output.top  
file. If your system is not a protein, then you need to add the paris  
section (and in fact create the entire .top file) by hand.

By the way, why are you using the combination of genpairs=yes  
fudgeLJ=0.5 and fudgeQQ=0.8333 ? This is not a valid combination for  
any force field that comes in the standard gromacs distribution.

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[gmx-users] Re: fudgeQQ (again ...)

2006-12-07 Thread chris . neale

I am puzzled about this. In your opinion, when I  use  genpairs=no, fudgeLJ=
0.5 and fudgeQQ=0.8333, are these scaling factors, 0.5 and 0.8333, useful?
On the other hand, when using genpairs=yes, how to set the scaling factor of
fudgeLJ and fudgeQQ?$


fudgeQQ is always used no matter what the value of genparis is.

(exerpt from  
http://www.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2006-September/023743.html)

Each force-field has its own rules (e.g. gen-pairs and FudgeLJ/QQ), but these
apply to the information outlined above. For example, gen-pairs does NOT mean
generate a [ pairs ] section for the molecule. Instead, it means If LJ-14
epsilon and sigma are not present in a [ pairs ] section entry, and  
that type of

interaction is not explicitly formulated in [ pairtypes ], then it is
permissible to use the regular non-bonded parameters, and in that case scale
them by FudgeLJ.

Therefore your settings indicate that coulombic 1-4 interactions will  
be scaled by 0.8333 and the pairs must be taken directly from the [  
pairs ] or [ pairtypes ] section (and they will NOT be scaled by  
fudgeLJ). In your case fudgeLJ does not matter (you could change the  
value and it would not affect your simulation). However, I have always  
hoped that it is set to 0.5 to indicate that this is what the  
forcefield developers have done for you and included it in [ pairtypes  
] so that it's kind of a reference value for your piece of mind.


I was assuming that the previous messages were from an Amber  
forcefield. Since Amber uses (to my knowledge) [ pairtypes ] instead  
of genpairs=yes, I was confused by the combination of genpairs=yes and  
fudgeQQ=0.8333.



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Re: [gmx-users] How to simulate a protein that contains two cuban cluster

2006-12-07 Thread Mark Abraham

Stefan Schöbel wrote:
Hei, 


I want to simulate a  protein that contains two cuban clusters with gromacs, so 
I want to know which forcefield is recommended to use for Fe-S compounds.


Probably, none of them. One has to develop parameters for these atom 
types based on experimental or high-level computational data. The odds 
against data on compounds even vaguely resembling yours a) existing, and 
b) being included in any current force field, are geological. 
Accordingly, the odds against any current parameters providing an 
adequate physical model are cosmological.


On the other hand I can use Gaussian software using the UFF forcefield. Because i am new to this field (master student doing an internship) I would like to know which is better to use, it's only to treat the whole protein plus clusters mechanically. 


Whoever set this task appears either to know little about the utility of 
MM forcefields, or to want to teach you about said utility :-)



Later I will use Oniom methods with gaussian.


This is where you should start.

Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] GROMACS exit codes; error in LAM installation?

2006-12-07 Thread Mark Abraham

Alan Dodd wrote:

Hello,
(background)
I recently compiled a new version of the 3.2.1 mdrun to make use of the lam 
7.1.2 that's just been installed.  For some reason, I can't get a run to work 
with it - it goes fine until:

Back Off! I just backed up enerG.edr to ./#enerG.edr.1#
starting mdrun '?'
143 steps,   2145.0 ps.

whereupon one of the processes (always n3, no matter which physical machine it 
is) exits for no obvious reason.

The signal given is 11 - I can't find reference to this in the Gromacs or lam 
source, so I don't know what it means.  Cranking up the verbosity on everything 
I can sheds no further light on it.  I'm guessing I did something not quite 
right in the installation, but without more information, there's no way to know 
how to fix it.

Anyway:
So, does anyone know what this exit code means?  (and, ideally, how to avoid 
it...)


I'd do a re-install of MPI, FFTW and GROMACS, and upgrade to GROMACS 
version 3.3.1 while I was at it :-)


Mark
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[gmx-users] error in pdb2gmx

2006-12-07 Thread Dmitriy Golubobsky

Please, give an adive.

I've add new residues to ffoplsaa.rtp
build pdb file.
and try to convert it to gromacs format.
under WindowsXP, using GROMACS 3.2.1 everyting is OK.
but, when i did the same comman under GROMACS 3.3.1 (SuSE),
i've got an error:

Read 4904 atoms
Opening library file /usr/local/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/xlateat.dat
26 out of 26 lines of xlateat.dat converted succesfully
Analyzing pdb file
There are 1 chains and 0 blocks of water and 258 residues with 4904 atoms

 chain  #res #atoms
 1 ' '   258   4904

All occupancy fields zero. This is probably not an X-Ray structure
Opening library file /usr/local/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/ffoplsaa.atp
Atomtype 817
Reading residue database... (ffoplsaa)
Opening library file /usr/local/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/ffoplsaa.rtp
---
Program pdb2gmx, VERSION 3.3.1
Source code file: resall.c, line: 289

Fatal error:
in .rtp file at line:


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What I'm doing wrong?
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Dmitriy Golubovsky
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Re: [gmx-users] error in pdb2gmx

2006-12-07 Thread Mark Abraham

Dmitriy Golubobsky wrote:

Please, give an adive.

I've add new residues to ffoplsaa.rtp
build pdb file.
and try to convert it to gromacs format.
under WindowsXP, using GROMACS 3.2.1 everyting is OK.
but, when i did the same comman under GROMACS 3.3.1 (SuSE),
i've got an error:

Read 4904 atoms
Opening library file /usr/local/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/xlateat.dat
26 out of 26 lines of xlateat.dat converted succesfully
Analyzing pdb file
There are 1 chains and 0 blocks of water and 258 residues with 4904 atoms

  chain  #res #atoms
  1 ' '   258   4904

All occupancy fields zero. This is probably not an X-Ray structure
Opening library file /usr/local/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/ffoplsaa.atp
Atomtype 817
Reading residue database... (ffoplsaa)
Opening library file /usr/local/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/ffoplsaa.rtp
---
Program pdb2gmx, VERSION 3.3.1
Source code file: resall.c, line: 289

Fatal error:
in .rtp file at line:


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What I'm doing wrong?


This is only a guess, but if your .rtp file uses Windows line-endings 
and pdb2gmx is sensitive to that, you might see such a problem. Use 
dos2unix on all your ex-Windows files and see how you go.


Mark
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[gmx-users] Can I use different force field functions for a molecule

2006-12-07 Thread intelandamd
Dear 
 I want to know whether I can use different functions in a molecule without 
making extra code.For example in a methanol molecule,I want to use Harmonic 
potential for C-H bond and use Morse pontential for C-OH bond. Besides,in user 
specified potential functions,I want to know whether I can use different 
potential functions without extra code.Thank you.
  Kind Regards 
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Re: [gmx-users] Can I use different force field functions for a molecule

2006-12-07 Thread Mark Abraham
intelandamd wrote:
 Dear
  I want to know whether I can use different functions in a molecule 
 without making extra code.For example in a methanol molecule,I want to 
 use Harmonic potential for C-H bond and use Morse pontential for C-OH 
 bond. Besides,in user specified potential functions,I want to know 
 whether I can use different potential functions without extra code.Thank 
 you.

Yes. Read chapter 5 of the manual.

Mark
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[gmx-users] Simulation of two peptides

2006-12-07 Thread nur avneet
Dear all
 When we simulate two or more peptides/structures together, does gromacs select 
the best possible orientations of the structures.
 
 Regards
 nur
 
 
 

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