[gmx-users] Re: gmx-users Digest, Vol 93, Issue 72

2012-01-12 Thread Ravi Kumar Venkatraman
Dear All,
 Could anybody tell me how to take the coordinates of the first
and second solvation shell with solute from the snapshots of MDS run. Which
molecular viewer will be good for it.

Thank you

*With Regards,
Ravi Kumar Venkatraman,
IPC Dept., IISc,
Bangalore, INDIA.

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[gmx-users] Regarding Molecular Viewer

2012-01-12 Thread Ravi Kumar Venkatraman
Dear All,
  Could anybody tell me how to take the coordinates of the
 first and second solvation shell with solute from the snapshots of MDS run.
 Which molecular viewer will be good for it.

 Thank you

 *With Regards,
 Ravi Kumar Venkatraman,
 IPC Dept., IISc,
 Bangalore, INDIA.

 +91-9686933963.*

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[gmx-users] constrained mdrun about linear rigid molecule ??

2012-01-12 Thread Kiwoong Kim
Hi,

I'm not good at handling Gromacs yet.

My question is about virtual interaction.

I'm doing simulation dealing with CO2 which is linear rigid molecule as you
already know.
As pervasively known, I introduced virtual sites.

However, I don't know how to give initial coordinate correctly of dummy
particles.

Let us consider following system.

x1-d1-x2

There are two real atom and one dummy particle between them with
appropriate length ratio, a, from x1, and (1-a) from x2.
If I give the coordinates of three particles by the rules of above
statement, i.e., dummy particle between them with appropriate length ratio,
a, from x1, and (1-a) from x2..

Is it correct? Isn't there any unstable energy?

Do I have to run any preceding run before equilibration run??
Otherwise, Is there any other way giving the correct coordinate of dummy
particle ???

Please help me..
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Re: [gmx-users] Protein angles / single point calculations

2012-01-12 Thread Mark Abraham

On 12/01/2012 9:14 PM, Matthias Ernst wrote:

Hi,

I have some questions.
First, what dihedral angles will Gromacs produce and use in topology 
when simulating proteins? To be more specific, I was looking for psi 
(N-C(a)-C-N) and phi (C-N-C(a)-C) angles in all the dihedrals that 
were generated by pdb2gmx. I only found the psi angles but not phi. Is 
that by purpose?


If your force field doesn't implement such dihedrals, then they won't be 
there. However it seems to me more likely that you aren't looking in 
enough right places. Consider the opposite order of the atom numbers, also.


Second, for testing purposes, I want to do single point energy 
calculations in vacuo with no cutoffs at given coordinates. When I use 
an mdp like the one below, it always changes the coordinates slightly 
but enough to change the energy values noticeably. Is there a better 
way to to this?


Zero-step MD is a way to do this. Using constraints = none, or 
continuation = yes will stop slight changes from the use of constraints. 
Another alternative is using mdrun -rerun, which is efficient for doing 
many such evaluations, and guarantees no changes to the coordinates.


Third, I'm not sure if the coordinates are used correctly. To compare 
the energy values, I inserted a little piece of code in the energy 
evaluation routines which outputs the coordinates of all atoms. It 
seems that everything beyond the three digits after the decimal sign 
in the .gro files is filled with arbitrary numbers. I know that using 
floating point data types results in a loss of accuracy but I thought 
even with single precision, the accuracy should be higher than three 
digits?


The accuracy is as high as it can be - I think you're assuming nothing 
has happened, and that isn't quite true.


Mark



Here is my mdp:
constraints   =   all-bonds
integrator=   MD
nsteps  =   0
nstcomm =   1
ns_type=   grid
rlist  =   0.0
rcoulomb =   0.0
rvdw=   0.0
Tcoupl  =   no
Pcoupl =   no
gen_vel=   no
pbc  =   no

I would greatly appreciate any help and comments.

Best regards,
Matthias Ernst


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Re: [gmx-users] PRODRG charges

2012-01-12 Thread gpat
Hi

Many thanks for your reply and sorry to come back on this.

Is the fitting to experimental free energies of solvation, the
only acceptable way to get GROMOS-compatible charges? Acceptable
because this is the way that partial charges were derived for the
gromos ff.

In the quite usual case that these experimental data are not available
for the ligand one is interested in, are DFT/ESP charges acceptable?

Thanks again.
George



 g...@bioacademy.gr wrote:
 Hello

 Given that the partial charges from PRODRG are not reliable (as
 explained
 Justin Lemkul's paper),
 are AM1-BCC charges calculated with the Chimera/Amber Tools a reasonable
 starting point?


 Yes, those charges are a reasonable start, but will almost certainly not
 be
 sufficient for the final topology.

 In this case, do we treat all ligand atoms as one charge group?


 Unless your ligand is 4 atoms or less, no.  Please consult the manual
 regarding
 charge groups, and see existing Gromos96 building blocks for suitable
 charge
 groupings.

 -Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] PRODRG charges

2012-01-12 Thread David van der Spoel

On 2012-01-12 12:42, g...@bioacademy.gr wrote:

Hi

Many thanks for your reply and sorry to come back on this.

Is the fitting to experimental free energies of solvation, the
only acceptable way to get GROMOS-compatible charges? Acceptable
because this is the way that partial charges were derived for the
gromos ff.

In the quite usual case that these experimental data are not available
for the ligand one is interested in, are DFT/ESP charges acceptable?


No. CHeck http://compbio.biosci.uq.edu.au/atb/



Thanks again.
George




g...@bioacademy.gr wrote:

Hello

Given that the partial charges from PRODRG are not reliable (as
explained
Justin Lemkul's paper),
are AM1-BCC charges calculated with the Chimera/Amber Tools a reasonable
starting point?



Yes, those charges are a reasonable start, but will almost certainly not
be
sufficient for the final topology.


In this case, do we treat all ligand atoms as one charge group?



Unless your ligand is 4 atoms or less, no.  Please consult the manual
regarding
charge groups, and see existing Gromos96 building blocks for suitable
charge
groupings.

-Justin

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Virginia Tech
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Re: [gmx-users] Problem with FE-Cys covalent bond

2012-01-12 Thread Anthony Cruz Balberdi
Hi:

Did you add the parameters for the new covalent bond to the correct
part of ffbonded.itp? Because, for the GROMOS FF you have to add the
parameters for the new bond, angle and dihedral ,created due to
specbond, in a certain part of the ffbonded.itp for pdb2gmx be able to
use it. I dont know if the OPLS FF function in the same way but
probably will be something trivial like these. Take a look at the
bottom part of the ffbonded.itp in one of the  GROMOS FF for example
gromos53a5.ff.


Best Regards,

Anthony

On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 6:34 AM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.au wrote:
 On 11/01/2012 7:14 PM, Suman Nandy wrote:

 Dear gromacs users,

 I have a problem regarding the simulation of Fe4S4 cluster attached to CYS
 of a protein using opls ff. I editted the aminoacids.rtp file as like
 this.

 [ SF4 ]
 ... [ atoms ]
 FE1 opls_966 2.500 1
 FE2 opls_967 2.500 1
 FE3 opls_968 2.500 1
 FE4 opls_969 2.500 1
 S1 opls_970 -2.000 1
 S2 opls_971 -2.000 1
 S3 opls_972 -2.000 1
 S4 opls_973 -2.000 1
 [ bonds ]
 FE1 S1
 FE1 S2
 FE1 S3
 FE2 S1
 FE2 S2
 FE2 S4
 FE3 S2
 FE3 S3
 FE3 S4
 FE4 S1
 FE4 S2
 FE4 S3

 and also atomtypes.atp as

 opls_966 55.84500 ; FE1: HEME
 opls_967 55.84500 ; FE2: HEME
 opls_968 55.84500 ; FE3: HEME
 opls_969 55.84500 ; FE4: HEME
 opls_970 32.06000 ; S1: S
 opls_971 32.06000 ; S2: S
 opls_972 32.06000 ; S3: S
 opls_973 32.06000 ; S4: S

 I have also added a line to specbond.dat regarding the SG-FE covalent
 bond. But while running the pdb2gmx command, (withouit any error) it just
 adds a H with SG (where the FE to bind)and there is no information on SG-FE
 bond in topology file. Please help.


 You should inspect the output of pdb2gmx to see what it thinks about the
 sulfur cluster.  It's either not close enough or not considered part of the
 same [moleculetype] being created. You may need to choose PDB chain IDs and
 pdb2gmx -chainsep more suitably.

 Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] constrained mdrun about linear rigid molecule ??

2012-01-12 Thread Mark Abraham

On 12/01/2012 8:40 PM, Kiwoong Kim wrote:

Hi,

I'm not good at handling Gromacs yet.

My question is about virtual interaction.

I'm doing simulation dealing with CO2 which is linear rigid molecule 
as you already know.

As pervasively known, I introduced virtual sites.

However, I don't know how to give initial coordinate correctly of 
dummy particles.


Let us consider following system.

x1-d1-x2

There are two real atom and one dummy particle between them with 
appropriate length ratio, a, from x1, and (1-a) from x2.
If I give the coordinates of three particles by the rules of above 
statement, i.e., dummy particle between them with appropriate length 
ratio, a, from x1, and (1-a) from x2..


Is it correct?


Looks fine.


Isn't there any unstable energy?


Why should there be?



Do I have to run any preceding run before equilibration run??
Otherwise, Is there any other way giving the correct coordinate of 
dummy particle ???


I expect you can give it any coordinates you like, and the interaction 
any value of a you like. Thereafter, it's in the hands of physics. If 
you want something reasonable, then probably choose the coordinates and 
the value of a in a consistent way.


Mark
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[gmx-users] Pull code problem: Large fluctuations in pull force in Gromacs 4.5.1 compared to 4.0.5

2012-01-12 Thread Emma Eriksson
Dear all,
I have a problem using the pull code in Gromacs 4.5.1. I am running simulations 
with a small molecule at constrained distances from the bilayer center in a 
membrane (z-direction) in order to calculate permeability data. I use the force 
acting on the molecule (pullf.xvg) at different distances to calculate free 
energy profiles and diffusion coefficients.
The problem I am facing is that the pull forces are fluctuating significantly 
more in version 4.5.1 compared to in 4.0.5. In 4.0.5 the forces normally 
fluctuate in the range of at most ±2000 kJ/mol/nm whereas in 4.5.1 they 
fluctuate in the range of at most ±5 kJ/mol/nm. The average force is 
however similar in both versions, which results in reasonable calculated free 
energy profiles. However, the large fluctuations in forces make the 
autocorrelation function of the force different, and this causes problems when 
calculating diffusion coefficients.
I have used the same mdp file as in version 4.0.5 with the difference that 
tau_t is increased from 0.1 to 0.4 (mdp file included below). The simulations 
are at least 7 ns. Is there anything trivial that I have missed when changing 
from version 4.0.5 to 4.5.1?
I would really appreciate any help on this issue. Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Emma


The mdp file:

title= x
cpp = /lib/cpp
include   =
define =
integrator= md
dt= 0.002
nsteps   = 750
nstlog= 25000
nstenergy= 30
nstxout= 0
nstxtcout = 25000
nstvout= 0
nstfout = 0
xtc_grps   = DPPC SOL X
energygrps  = DPPC SOL X
nstlist= 10
ns_type   = grid
rlist = 1.0
coulombtype = PME
rcoulomb = 1.0
vdwtype  = Cut-off
rvdw = 1.0
tcoupl   = Nose-hoover
tc-grps  = DPPC SOL X
tau_t= 0.4 0.4 0.4
ref_t  = 323 323 323
Pcoupl  = Parrinello-Rahman
pcoupltype = semiisotropic
tau_p= 1.0 1.0
compressibility  = 4.5e-5 4.5e-5
ref_p= 1.0 1.0
gen_vel= yes
gen_temp   = 323
gen_seed= 173529
constraints  = all-bonds

pbc = xyz

optimize_fft   = yes
unconstrained_start  = no

pull = constraint
pull_geometry  = cylinder
pull_r1  = 1.0
pull_r0  = 1.5
pull_group0= DPPC
pull_group1= X
pull_vec1 = 0 0 1
pull_init1 = -0.006
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[gmx-users] optimum acceptance ratio for REMD

2012-01-12 Thread Ben Reynwar
Hi all,

I am currently puzzled by the emphasis on using an acceptance ratio of
around 0.2 for replica exchange simulations in the literature.

This optimum ratio is, as far as I understand, derived assuming that
the exchange attempt frequency is constant and that the protein
dynamics are not limiting the diffusion of a replica up and down
the temperature ladder.

In a real system there will be some time-scale associated with the
relaxation of the protein as it moves from one temperature to another.
The rate of diffusion of the replica on the temperature ladder could
potentially be limited by these protein dynamics or by the exchange
frequency.

If we are limited by the exchange frequency, then it would make sense
to decrease the interval between exchange attempts to the same
time-scale as the potential energy correlation time, and to choose the
number of replicas such that the acceptance ratio was around 0.2.

If we are limited by the protein dynamics then the exchange frequency
doesn't matter, so the acceptance ratio should have no effect (as
long, of course, as it isn't so low that the exchange frequency
becomes limiting).  This would mean for simulations of large proteins where
the protein dynamics are limiting, we can slash the number of replicas
required for an efficient REMD simulation.

However, I haven't seen any simulations in the literature using very small
acceptance ratios, which makes me suspicious of my logic.  Does anyone have
any thoughts on this?

Cheers,
Ben
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Re: [gmx-users] optimum acceptance ratio for REMD

2012-01-12 Thread David van der Spoel

On 2012-01-12 19:42, Ben Reynwar wrote:

Hi all,

I am currently puzzled by the emphasis on using an acceptance ratio of
around 0.2 for replica exchange simulations in the literature.


This is bogus indeed.

You are correct. Many people prefer not to think.

What matters is that the time between exchanges is larger than the 
relaxation, which hence is system dependent, and that you have 
sufficient number of exchanges to equilibrate the T-dependent properties 
(which can be challenging).


Our old paper is one of the few where this succeeded for a peptide 
because it is so small :).


Marvin Seibert, Alexandra Patriksson, Berk Hess and David van der Spoel: 
Reproducible polypeptide folding and structure prediction using 
molecular dynamics simulations J. Mol. Biol. 354 pp. 173-183 (2005)


David van der Spoel and M. Marvin Seibert: Protein Folding Kinetics and 
Thermodynamics from Atomistic Simulations Phys. Rev. Lett. 96 pp. 238102 
(2006)

This optimum ratio is, as far as I understand, derived assuming that
the exchange attempt frequency is constant and that the protein
dynamics are not limiting the diffusion of a replica up and down
the temperature ladder.

In a real system there will be some time-scale associated with the
relaxation of the protein as it moves from one temperature to another.
The rate of diffusion of the replica on the temperature ladder could
potentially be limited by these protein dynamics or by the exchange
frequency.

If we are limited by the exchange frequency, then it would make sense
to decrease the interval between exchange attempts to the same
time-scale as the potential energy correlation time, and to choose the
number of replicas such that the acceptance ratio was around 0.2.

If we are limited by the protein dynamics then the exchange frequency
doesn't matter, so the acceptance ratio should have no effect (as
long, of course, as it isn't so low that the exchange frequency
becomes limiting).  This would mean for simulations of large proteins where
the protein dynamics are limiting, we can slash the number of replicas
required for an efficient REMD simulation.

However, I haven't seen any simulations in the literature using very small
acceptance ratios, which makes me suspicious of my logic.  Does anyone have
any thoughts on this?

Cheers,
Ben



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[gmx-users] Graphene - force field

2012-01-12 Thread Nilesh Dhumal
Hello,

I am trying to run simulation of graphene oxide.  I have 16 carbon atoms
of same type. I am using opls force field.  could make the .itp file and
pasted here

[ defaults ]
; nbfunccomb-rule   gen-pairs   fudgeLJ fudgeQQ
;1   3   yes 0.5 0.5
; comb-rule 3 is square-root sigma, the OPLSAA version

[ atomtypes ]
; full atom descriptions are available in ffoplsaa.atp
; name  bond_typemasscharge   ptype  sigma  epsilon
opls_071  CG  6  12.01100  0.00   A  3.5e-01 2.92880e-01
opls_072  CO  6  12.01100  0.265  A  3.5e-01 3.59824e-01
opls_116  OH  8  15.99940 -0.683  A  3.12000e-01 7.11280e-01
opls_117  HO  1  1.00800   0.418  A  0.0 0.0


[ bondtypes ]
; ij  func   b0  kb
  COOH  10.14100   133888.0
  OHHO  10.09600   231375.0
  CGCG  10.14000   392459.2   ; TRP,TYR,PHE
  CGCO  10.14000   392459.2   ; TRP,TYR,PHE


[ angletypes ]
;  ijk  func   th0   cth
  CG CO OH  190.000292.880
  CO OH HO  1   108.500230.120
  CG CG CG  1   120.000527.184  ; TYR(OL)


[ dihedraltypes ]
;  ijkl   func coefficients
; OPLS Fourier function (func=5)
CJ CJ CJ CJ  3 30.33400   0.0 -30.33400   0.0 
 0.0   0.0 ;
  CG CO OH HO  3  0.0   0.0   6.27600   0.0
  CG CG CO OH  3  7.15882  -2.09200   2.77399   0.0

My question how can I step for the parameters ffoplsaa.rtp file. I made
the parameters as follow

 [ SMA  ]
 [ atoms ]
CG  opls_071 0.00   1
CG  opls_071 0.00   1
CG  opls_071 0.00   1
CG  opls_071 0.00   1
CO  opls_072 0.265  2
CG  opls_071 0.00   1
CG  opls_071 0.00   1
CO  opls_072 0.265  2
CG  opls_071 0.00   1
CG  opls_071 0.00   1
CG  opls_071 0.00   1
CG  opls_071 0.00   1
CG  opls_071 0.00   1
CG  opls_071 0.00   1
CG  opls_071 0.00   1
CG  opls_071 0.00   1
OH  opls_116-0.683  3
HO  opls_117 0.000  4
OH  opls_116-0.683  3
HO  opls_117 0.000  4

 [ bonds ]
CG CG
CG CO
CO OH
OH HO


I am geting trouble to create .top file using pdb2gmx.

Can you tell how to set up force field parameter for graphene.

I am usinng Gromacs  VERSION 4.0.7.

Thanks

Nilesh


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[gmx-users] difference in Coulomb SR and Coulomb 14?

2012-01-12 Thread Saba Ferdous
Dear experts,
Can you please make me understand the actual difference between Coulomb SR
and Coulomb 14?


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Re: [gmx-users] difference in Coulomb SR and Coulomb 14?

2012-01-12 Thread Mark Abraham

On 13/01/2012 4:41 PM, Saba Ferdous wrote:

Dear experts,
Can you please make me understand the actual difference between 
Coulomb SR and Coulomb 14?




See manual 3.4.7 for short-range interactions and 4.6.1 for 1-4.

Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] Graphene - force field

2012-01-12 Thread Mark Abraham

On 13/01/2012 2:22 PM, Nilesh Dhumal wrote:

Hello,

I am trying to run simulation of graphene oxide.  I have 16 carbon atoms
of same type. I am using opls force field.  could make the .itp file and
pasted here

[ defaults ]
; nbfunccomb-rule   gen-pairs   fudgeLJ fudgeQQ
;1   3   yes 0.5 0.5


You need to choose some actual values here, not comment them out.


; comb-rule 3 is square-root sigma, the OPLSAA version

[ atomtypes ]
; full atom descriptions are available in ffoplsaa.atp
; name  bond_typemasscharge   ptype  sigma  epsilon
opls_071  CG  6  12.01100  0.00   A  3.5e-01 2.92880e-01
opls_072  CO  6  12.01100  0.265  A  3.5e-01 3.59824e-01
opls_116  OH  8  15.99940 -0.683  A  3.12000e-01 7.11280e-01
opls_117  HO  1  1.00800   0.418  A  0.0 0.0


[ bondtypes ]
; ij  func   b0  kb
   COOH  10.14100   133888.0
   OHHO  10.09600   231375.0
   CGCG  10.14000   392459.2   ; TRP,TYR,PHE
   CGCO  10.14000   392459.2   ; TRP,TYR,PHE


[ angletypes ]
;  ijk  func   th0   cth
   CG CO OH  190.000292.880
   CO OH HO  1   108.500230.120
   CG CG CG  1   120.000527.184  ; TYR(OL)


[ dihedraltypes ]
;  ijkl   func coefficients
; OPLS Fourier function (func=5)
CJ CJ CJ CJ  3 30.33400   0.0 -30.33400   0.0
  0.0   0.0 ;
   CG CO OH HO  3  0.0   0.0   6.27600   0.0
   CG CG CO OH  3  7.15882  -2.09200   2.77399   0.0

My question how can I step for the parameters ffoplsaa.rtp file. I made
the parameters as follow

  [ SMA  ]
  [ atoms ]
CG  opls_071 0.00   1
CG  opls_071 0.00   1
CG  opls_071 0.00   1
CG  opls_071 0.00   1
CO  opls_072 0.265  2
CG  opls_071 0.00   1
CG  opls_071 0.00   1
CO  opls_072 0.265  2
CG  opls_071 0.00   1
CG  opls_071 0.00   1
CG  opls_071 0.00   1
CG  opls_071 0.00   1
CG  opls_071 0.00   1
CG  opls_071 0.00   1
CG  opls_071 0.00   1
CG  opls_071 0.00   1
OH  opls_116-0.683  3
HO  opls_117 0.000  4
OH  opls_116-0.683  3
HO  opls_117 0.000  4

  [ bonds ]
 CG CG
 CG CO
 CO OH
 OH HO


You should look at some example .rtp entries. You need to give a unique 
name to each atom, and to describe which are bound to which.


Chapter 5 is your friend, read its examples.

Mark




I am geting trouble to create .top file using pdb2gmx.

Can you tell how to set up force field parameter for graphene.

I am usinng Gromacs  VERSION 4.0.7.

Thanks

Nilesh




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