Re: [gmx-users] Problem with equilibrated lipid bilayer structure

2012-10-15 Thread Peter C. Lai
Is there a reason to switch water models? Gromacs supports both the 
traditional TIP3P and the CHARMM TIP3P (TIPS3P).

Since you need to reinitialize velocities, it may not be a good idea to use 
Nose-Hoover and Parinello-Rahman straight away. Furthermore, you need 
to gen_vel=yes since gromacs has no velocity from your previous charmm run 
and subjecting an otherwise frozen system to a parinello-rahman thermostat is 
asking for trouble. 

Also, pressure coupling for NPT should probably be semiisotropic for bilayers. 
Finally you may want to experiment with EnerPres; see also 
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ct3003157 (although this isn't related to
your crash).

On 2012-10-15 01:48:47PM +0800, Jernej Zidar wrote:
 Hi.
   I used CHARMM to prepare a cholesterol/POPC lipid bilayer. I
 equilibrated it in CHARMM and the imported the resulting PDB to
 GROMACS. In CHARMM I was the TIP3P water model, so before importing
 the PDB I changed the atom types from the TIP3P's ones to SPCE ones.
 Then I used this command to import  the PDB:
 pdb2gmx -f lipid-wat.pdb -o bilayer.gro -p bilayer.top -i
 bilayer-posres.itp -ff charmm36cgenff -water spce -noter -v -renum
 
   After the import I center the system in the unit cell with: editconf
 -f bilayer.gro -o bilayer.gro -c
 
   Problem 1: The system size (unit cell) is not properly
 computed/detected. The following numbers are for the same structure
 after the CHARMM equilibration.
CHARMM reports the size as: 10.45820  x 10.45825  x
 6.864382 (in nm; converted from Angstroms)
GROMACS states the size is: 12.30940  x 11.81980  x
 7.138100 (in nm)
 
   Problem 2: While I'm able to run MD in CHARMM if I start from the
 equilibrated structure, I am unable to do so in GROMACS. As the system
 apparently blows up with the cryptic message:
 Program mdrun, VERSION 4.5.5
 Source code file: /build/buildd/gromacs-4.5.5/src/mdlib/pme.c, line: 538
 
 Fatal error:
 5 particles communicated to PME node 0 are more than 2/3 times the
 cut-off out of the domain decomposition cell of their charge group in
 dimension y.
 This usually means that your system is not well equilibrated.
 For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the GROMACS
 website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
 
   I can minimize the system, but any attempt to run MD results in the
 aforementioned message. Here's the MDP file I would like to use:
 ;define   = -DPOSRES  ; position restrain the protein
 ; Run parameters
 integrator= md; leap-frog integrator
 nsteps= 50; 2 * 50 = 1000 ps (1 ns)
 dt= 0.002 ; 2 fs
 ; Output control
 nstxout   = 100   ; save coordinates every 0.2 ps
 nstvout   = 100   ; save velocities every 0.2 ps
 nstenergy = 100   ; save energies every 0.2 ps
 nstlog= 100   ; update log file every 0.2 ps
 ; Bond parameters
 continuation  = no; Restarting after NVT
 constraint_algorithm = lincs  ; holonomic constraints
 constraints   = all-bonds ; all bonds (even heavy atom-H bonds)
 constrained
 lincs_iter= 1 ; accuracy of LINCS
 lincs_order   = 4 ; also related to accuracy
 ; Neighborsearching
 ns_type   = grid  ; search neighboring grid cels
 nstlist   = 5 ; 10 fs
 rlist = 1.2   ; short-range neighborlist cutoff (in nm)
 rcoulomb  = 1.2   ; short-range electrostatic cutoff (in nm)
 rvdw  = 1.2   ; short-range van der Waals cutoff (in nm)
 ; Electrostatics
 coulombtype   = PME   ; Particle Mesh Ewald for long-range 
 electrostatics
 pme_order = 4 ; cubic interpolation
 fourierspacing= 0.16  ; grid spacing for FFT
 ; Temperature coupling is on
 tcoupl= Nose-Hoover   ; More accurate thermostat
 tc-grps   = LIPID SOL ; three coupling groups - more 
 accurate
 tau_t = 0.5   0.5 ; time constant, in ps
 ref_t = 300   300 ; reference temperature, one for each 
 group, in K
 ; Pressure coupling is on
 pcoupl= Parrinello-Rahman ; Pressure coupling on in 
 NPT
 pcoupltype= isotropic ; uniform scaling of x-y box 
 vectors, independent z
 tau_p = 5.0   ; time constant, in ps
 ref_p = 1.0   ; reference pressure, x-y, z 
 (in bar)
 compressibility = 4.5e-5  ; isothermal compressibility, bar^-1
 ; Periodic boundary conditions
 pbc   = xyz   ; 3-D PBC
 ; Dispersion correction
 DispCorr  = EnerPres  ; account for cut-off vdW scheme
 ; Velocity generation
 gen_vel   = no; Velocity generation is off
 ; COM 

[gmx-users] VMD problem?

2012-10-15 Thread Albert

hello:

 I've installed gromacs in my macbookPro with 10.8 OS system. I am 
trying to import gromacs trajectory which contains 6000 frames. However, 
the VMD always clashed




VMD(552,0xac879a28) malloc: *** mmap(size=831488) failed (error code=12)
*** error: can't allocate region
*** set a breakpoint in malloc_error_break to debug
libc++abi.dylib: terminate called throwing an exception
/Applications/VMD 1.9.1.app/Contents/MacOS/startup.command: line 7:   
552 Abort trap: 6 $p/../Resources/VMD.app/Contents/MacOS/VMD $*

logout



Does anybody have any idae how to solve this problem? I try to install 
the 64bit VMD, but it crashed as soon as it start up.


thank you very much
Albert
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RE: [gmx-users] Problem with equilibrated lipid bilayer structure

2012-10-15 Thread Sebastien Cote

Hello,
You might want to use TIPS3P (special CHARMM TIP3P) instead of regular TIP3P 
because some researchers observed that regular TIP3P can impact the area per 
lipid significantly when simulating CHARMM lipid bilayer (see reference below). 
 
Concerning the CHARMM36 lipid force field in Gromacs, there is also an issue 
about cutoffs. The switch cutoff scheme in the charmm software is different 
than in the gromacs software. It might impact your results for some bilayers, 
while it does not for others. 
You might find that previous post on the mailing list enlightening (and the 
cited reference) :
 Hi everyone,This message is just to let people know that there is finally a 
reference that we ask you to cite if you publish work using the CHARMM36 
lipid force field contribution available from the GROMACS website. The 
reference is provided in a new version of the forcefield.doc file, and 
is also given below:

Thomas J. Piggot, Ángel Piñeiro and Syma Khalid
Molecular Dynamics Simulations of Phosphatidylcholine Membranes: A 
Comparative Force Field Study
Journal of Chemical Theory and Computation
DOI: 10.1021/ct3003157
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ct3003157

A validation of the conversion for DPPC and POPC membrane systems (in 
terms of single point energies calculated in both GROMACS and NAMD) is 
provided in the supporting information of this work.

Cheers

Tom
Hope that helps,
Sebastien 
 Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 13:48:47 +0800
 From: jernej.zi...@gmail.com
 To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
 Subject: [gmx-users] Problem with equilibrated lipid bilayer structure
 
 Hi.
   I used CHARMM to prepare a cholesterol/POPC lipid bilayer. I
 equilibrated it in CHARMM and the imported the resulting PDB to
 GROMACS. In CHARMM I was the TIP3P water model, so before importing
 the PDB I changed the atom types from the TIP3P's ones to SPCE ones.
 Then I used this command to import  the PDB:
 pdb2gmx -f lipid-wat.pdb -o bilayer.gro -p bilayer.top -i
 bilayer-posres.itp -ff charmm36cgenff -water spce -noter -v -renum
 
   After the import I center the system in the unit cell with: editconf
 -f bilayer.gro -o bilayer.gro -c
 
   Problem 1: The system size (unit cell) is not properly
 computed/detected. The following numbers are for the same structure
 after the CHARMM equilibration.
CHARMM reports the size as: 10.45820  x 10.45825  x
 6.864382 (in nm; converted from Angstroms)
GROMACS states the size is: 12.30940  x 11.81980  x
 7.138100 (in nm)
 
   Problem 2: While I'm able to run MD in CHARMM if I start from the
 equilibrated structure, I am unable to do so in GROMACS. As the system
 apparently blows up with the cryptic message:
 Program mdrun, VERSION 4.5.5
 Source code file: /build/buildd/gromacs-4.5.5/src/mdlib/pme.c, line: 538
 
 Fatal error:
 5 particles communicated to PME node 0 are more than 2/3 times the
 cut-off out of the domain decomposition cell of their charge group in
 dimension y.
 This usually means that your system is not well equilibrated.
 For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the GROMACS
 website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
 
   I can minimize the system, but any attempt to run MD results in the
 aforementioned message. Here's the MDP file I would like to use:
 ;define   = -DPOSRES  ; position restrain the protein
 ; Run parameters
 integrator= md; leap-frog integrator
 nsteps= 50; 2 * 50 = 1000 ps (1 ns)
 dt= 0.002 ; 2 fs
 ; Output control
 nstxout   = 100   ; save coordinates every 0.2 ps
 nstvout   = 100   ; save velocities every 0.2 ps
 nstenergy = 100   ; save energies every 0.2 ps
 nstlog= 100   ; update log file every 0.2 ps
 ; Bond parameters
 continuation  = no; Restarting after NVT
 constraint_algorithm = lincs  ; holonomic constraints
 constraints   = all-bonds ; all bonds (even heavy atom-H bonds)
 constrained
 lincs_iter= 1 ; accuracy of LINCS
 lincs_order   = 4 ; also related to accuracy
 ; Neighborsearching
 ns_type   = grid  ; search neighboring grid cels
 nstlist   = 5 ; 10 fs
 rlist = 1.2   ; short-range neighborlist cutoff (in nm)
 rcoulomb  = 1.2   ; short-range electrostatic cutoff (in nm)
 rvdw  = 1.2   ; short-range van der Waals cutoff (in nm)
 ; Electrostatics
 coulombtype   = PME   ; Particle Mesh Ewald for long-range 
 electrostatics
 pme_order = 4 ; cubic interpolation
 fourierspacing= 0.16  ; grid spacing for FFT
 ; Temperature coupling is on
 tcoupl= Nose-Hoover   ; More accurate thermostat
 tc-grps   = LIPID SOL ; three coupling groups - more 
 accurate
 

Re: [gmx-users] VMD problem?

2012-10-15 Thread Peter C. Lai
Depending on the # of atoms, 6000 frames may exceed the amount of ram a 32bit
application can address (4GB). If you're having problems with the 64bit 
version, you should probably ask the vmd-l list.

The only workaround other than that is trjconv -skip and make a trajectory 
file that skips frames and will load under 4GB of ram.

On 2012-10-15 08:15:34AM +0200, Albert wrote:
 hello:
 
   I've installed gromacs in my macbookPro with 10.8 OS system. I am 
 trying to import gromacs trajectory which contains 6000 frames. However, 
 the VMD always clashed
 
 
 
 VMD(552,0xac879a28) malloc: *** mmap(size=831488) failed (error code=12)
 *** error: can't allocate region
 *** set a breakpoint in malloc_error_break to debug
 libc++abi.dylib: terminate called throwing an exception
 /Applications/VMD 1.9.1.app/Contents/MacOS/startup.command: line 7:   
 552 Abort trap: 6 $p/../Resources/VMD.app/Contents/MacOS/VMD $*
 logout
 
 
 
 Does anybody have any idae how to solve this problem? I try to install 
 the 64bit VMD, but it crashed as soon as it start up.
 
 thank you very much
 Albert
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Re: [gmx-users] VMD problem?

2012-10-15 Thread Albert

On 10/15/2012 08:46 AM, Peter C. Lai wrote:

Depending on the # of atoms, 6000 frames may exceed the amount of ram a 32bit
application can address (4GB). If you're having problems with the 64bit
version, you should probably ask the vmd-l list.

The only workaround other than that is trjconv -skip and make a trajectory
file that skips frames and will load under 4GB of ram.


thanks for kind reply.
I found in VMD maillist and they claimed to be solved by installing the 
64bit VMD. However, I download more than 10 different 64bit VMD, and 
none of them works: all of then crashed as soon as it start up.. 
nobody else in VMD mailist reply my thread. ;-(



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Re: [gmx-users] Lennard-Jones Parameters

2012-10-15 Thread cuong nguyen
Thanks for you email.
I already had the .gro and .top files from PRODRG. Now I want to reproduce
these files following the LJ parameters in a published paper (charge, sigma
and epsilon values). I can change the charge in the top file, yet I do not
know how to change sigma and epsilon values.

Best regards,

Cuong

On 15 October 2012 13:57, Peter C. Lai p...@uab.edu wrote:

 It's hard to understand your question. What do you mean by reference
 parameters? You said you already obtained a .gro and .top from PRODRG,
 which
 uses the gromos 43a1 forcefield to derive the parameters, so if you need
 to change the LJ parameters, edit the top file it gave you.

 If you want to reproduce the results of a published paper, you should use
 the
 forcefield and parameters specified in that paper and contact the author(s)
 if more details are needed.

 On 2012-10-15 10:42:57AM +0800, cuong nguyen wrote:
  Thank you very much for your email, Justin.
  in case I want to use the reference parameters, which force-field and
 what
  should I do to get the .gro and .top files for this molecule?
 
  Best regards,
 
  Cuong
 
 
  On 12 October 2012 21:14, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:
 
  
  
   On 10/12/12 8:04 AM, cuong nguyen wrote:
  
 Dear Gromacs Users,
  
   I got the .gro and .top files of 1-octanol downloaded from PRODRG
 website.
   Please let me know if I can change charge, epsilon and sigma of the
   molecule as written in a paper? and How to do?
  
  
   Atom types from PRODRG rarely, if ever, need changing.  Charges can be
   taken first by chemical homology (group-based approach that makes
 Gromos
   force fields convenient) and then by calculating the charges yourself.
  For
   1-octanol, it should be very straightforward to obtain parameters, zero
   charges on all the C atoms except for the one in the alocohol, then
   standard alcohol charges for the C-O-H.  Whether or not those
 parameters
   are sufficiently accurate is up to you to decide, but that's the
 approach
   one would take with this particular force field.
  
   -Justin
  
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Re: [gmx-users] Lennard-Jones Parameters

2012-10-15 Thread Peter C. Lai
Is there no [atomtypes] section in the top file?

On 2012-10-15 03:53:54PM +0800, cuong nguyen wrote:
 Thanks for you email.
 I already had the .gro and .top files from PRODRG. Now I want to reproduce
 these files following the LJ parameters in a published paper (charge, sigma
 and epsilon values). I can change the charge in the top file, yet I do not
 know how to change sigma and epsilon values.
 
 Best regards,
 
 Cuong
 
 On 15 October 2012 13:57, Peter C. Lai p...@uab.edu wrote:
 
  It's hard to understand your question. What do you mean by reference
  parameters? You said you already obtained a .gro and .top from PRODRG,
  which
  uses the gromos 43a1 forcefield to derive the parameters, so if you need
  to change the LJ parameters, edit the top file it gave you.
 
  If you want to reproduce the results of a published paper, you should use
  the
  forcefield and parameters specified in that paper and contact the author(s)
  if more details are needed.
 
  On 2012-10-15 10:42:57AM +0800, cuong nguyen wrote:
   Thank you very much for your email, Justin.
   in case I want to use the reference parameters, which force-field and
  what
   should I do to get the .gro and .top files for this molecule?
  
   Best regards,
  
   Cuong
  
  
   On 12 October 2012 21:14, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:
  
   
   
On 10/12/12 8:04 AM, cuong nguyen wrote:
   
  Dear Gromacs Users,
   
I got the .gro and .top files of 1-octanol downloaded from PRODRG
  website.
Please let me know if I can change charge, epsilon and sigma of the
molecule as written in a paper? and How to do?
   
   
Atom types from PRODRG rarely, if ever, need changing.  Charges can be
taken first by chemical homology (group-based approach that makes
  Gromos
force fields convenient) and then by calculating the charges yourself.
   For
1-octanol, it should be very straightforward to obtain parameters, zero
charges on all the C atoms except for the one in the alocohol, then
standard alcohol charges for the C-O-H.  Whether or not those
  parameters
are sufficiently accurate is up to you to decide, but that's the
  approach
one would take with this particular force field.
   
-Justin
   
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[gmx-users] losing data in trjconv?

2012-10-15 Thread Gil Claudio
Hi all,

When I do the following command

trjconv -f traj.trr -o traj_1.trr

the file size of traj_1.trr is around 25% smaller than traj.trr.

Does traj_1.trr contain less data than traj.trr?

Thanks

Gil
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Re: [gmx-users] losing data in trjconv?

2012-10-15 Thread Peter C. Lai
Was traj.trr output by the same machine/mdrun as the machine you are running
trjconv on?

Is traj.trr (or the mdrun that wrote it) double precision and trjconv is 
compiled float (single precision)?

On 2012-10-15 02:31:00AM -0700, Gil Claudio wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 When I do the following command
 
 trjconv -f traj.trr -o traj_1.trr
 
 the file size of traj_1.trr is around 25% smaller than traj.trr.
 
 Does traj_1.trr contain less data than traj.trr?
 
 Thanks
 
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Re: [gmx-users] Lennard-Jones Parameters

2012-10-15 Thread cuong nguyen
Dear,

The top file downloaded from PRODRG did not consist of [atomtypes]. Please
tell me how can I add and use this function?

Best regards,

Cuong

On 15 October 2012 16:43, Peter C. Lai p...@uab.edu wrote:

 Is there no [atomtypes] section in the top file?

 On 2012-10-15 03:53:54PM +0800, cuong nguyen wrote:
  Thanks for you email.
  I already had the .gro and .top files from PRODRG. Now I want to
 reproduce
  these files following the LJ parameters in a published paper (charge,
 sigma
  and epsilon values). I can change the charge in the top file, yet I do
 not
  know how to change sigma and epsilon values.
 
  Best regards,
 
  Cuong
 
  On 15 October 2012 13:57, Peter C. Lai p...@uab.edu wrote:
 
   It's hard to understand your question. What do you mean by reference
   parameters? You said you already obtained a .gro and .top from PRODRG,
   which
   uses the gromos 43a1 forcefield to derive the parameters, so if you
 need
   to change the LJ parameters, edit the top file it gave you.
  
   If you want to reproduce the results of a published paper, you should
 use
   the
   forcefield and parameters specified in that paper and contact the
 author(s)
   if more details are needed.
  
   On 2012-10-15 10:42:57AM +0800, cuong nguyen wrote:
Thank you very much for your email, Justin.
in case I want to use the reference parameters, which force-field and
   what
should I do to get the .gro and .top files for this molecule?
   
Best regards,
   
Cuong
   
   
On 12 October 2012 21:14, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:
   


 On 10/12/12 8:04 AM, cuong nguyen wrote:

   Dear Gromacs Users,

 I got the .gro and .top files of 1-octanol downloaded from PRODRG
   website.
 Please let me know if I can change charge, epsilon and sigma of
 the
 molecule as written in a paper? and How to do?


 Atom types from PRODRG rarely, if ever, need changing.  Charges
 can be
 taken first by chemical homology (group-based approach that makes
   Gromos
 force fields convenient) and then by calculating the charges
 yourself.
For
 1-octanol, it should be very straightforward to obtain parameters,
 zero
 charges on all the C atoms except for the one in the alocohol, then
 standard alcohol charges for the C-O-H.  Whether or not those
   parameters
 are sufficiently accurate is up to you to decide, but that's the
   approach
 one would take with this particular force field.

 -Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] amount of solvent

2012-10-15 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 10/14/12 10:41 PM, Nur Syafiqah Abdul Ghani wrote:

Dear All,

I would like to do the simulation between water and other solvent.
One question that i curious to know which is how i want to put the
amount of solvent, HFIP before i insert the water?
Its suppose 80% of HFIP and 20% of water.
But the starting point of my pdb already 1 nmol which only 1 compound of HFIP.
So how can i insert the other amount of HFIP  before I insert the
water molecule?



http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Mixed_Solvents

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Re: [gmx-users] Lennard-Jones Parameters

2012-10-15 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 10/15/12 5:45 AM, cuong nguyen wrote:

Dear,

The top file downloaded from PRODRG did not consist of [atomtypes]. Please
tell me how can I add and use this function?



I see no need to change anything about the L-J parameters.  Is there some reason 
you believe them to be incorrect?  If you modify L-J parameters, you're no 
longer using Gromos96 43a1.  In PRODRG topologies, the charges and charge groups 
certainly need changing, but I have never seen a need to hack the L-J parameters.


-Justin


Best regards,

Cuong

On 15 October 2012 16:43, Peter C. Lai p...@uab.edu wrote:


Is there no [atomtypes] section in the top file?

On 2012-10-15 03:53:54PM +0800, cuong nguyen wrote:

Thanks for you email.
I already had the .gro and .top files from PRODRG. Now I want to

reproduce

these files following the LJ parameters in a published paper (charge,

sigma

and epsilon values). I can change the charge in the top file, yet I do

not

know how to change sigma and epsilon values.

Best regards,

Cuong

On 15 October 2012 13:57, Peter C. Lai p...@uab.edu wrote:


It's hard to understand your question. What do you mean by reference
parameters? You said you already obtained a .gro and .top from PRODRG,
which
uses the gromos 43a1 forcefield to derive the parameters, so if you

need

to change the LJ parameters, edit the top file it gave you.

If you want to reproduce the results of a published paper, you should

use

the
forcefield and parameters specified in that paper and contact the

author(s)

if more details are needed.

On 2012-10-15 10:42:57AM +0800, cuong nguyen wrote:

Thank you very much for your email, Justin.
in case I want to use the reference parameters, which force-field and

what

should I do to get the .gro and .top files for this molecule?

Best regards,

Cuong


On 12 October 2012 21:14, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:




On 10/12/12 8:04 AM, cuong nguyen wrote:


   Dear Gromacs Users,

I got the .gro and .top files of 1-octanol downloaded from PRODRG

website.

Please let me know if I can change charge, epsilon and sigma of

the

molecule as written in a paper? and How to do?



Atom types from PRODRG rarely, if ever, need changing.  Charges

can be

taken first by chemical homology (group-based approach that makes

Gromos

force fields convenient) and then by calculating the charges

yourself.

  For

1-octanol, it should be very straightforward to obtain parameters,

zero

charges on all the C atoms except for the one in the alocohol, then
standard alcohol charges for the C-O-H.  Whether or not those

parameters

are sufficiently accurate is up to you to decide, but that's the

approach

one would take with this particular force field.

-Justin

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[gmx-users] bonds braking

2012-10-15 Thread Eduardo Oliveira
Hi,

I'm having trouble simulating a protein kinase on water. During the simulation, 
the molecule moves towards the box limits and some residues apear on the other 
side. Almost like they are interacting with water molecules on different sides 
of the box. I'm on my third simulation and the problem persists. I've already 
tried changing the periodic conditions but with no success. Waht are your 
thoughts on that?

For additional information:
Before the dynamics step I performed 4 minimization steps then i did water 
dynamics and the entire system dynamics.
Here is all the .mdp  files.

Sorry in advance for the long email.

FIRST MINIMIZATION STEP:
title   =  min_steepest_descent_PR
cpp =  /lib/cpp
define  =  -DFLEXIBLE -DPOSRES
constraints =  none
integrator  =  steep ;l-bfgs
nsteps  =  2
nstlist =  10
ns_type =  grid
rlist   =  1.0
pbc            =  xyz
coulombtype =  PME 
rcoulomb    =  1.0
epsilon-r   =  1 ;1 for CUTOFF, PME and SWITCH and, 54 for REACTIONFIELD
vdw-type    =  Cut-off
rvdw    =  1.4 ;     
emtol   =  209.2
emstep  =  0.01
fourierspacing        =  0.12
pme_order        =  4
ewald_rtol  =  1e-5
optimize_fft    =  yes

SECOND MINIMIZATION STEP
title   =  min_steepest_descent
cpp =  /lib/cpp
define  =  -DFLEXIBLE
constraints =  none
integrator  =  steep
nsteps  =  2
nstlist =  10
ns_type =  grid
rlist   =  1.0
pbc            =  xyz
coulombtype =  PME
rcoulomb    =  1.0
epsilon-r   =  1.0 ;1 for CUTOFF, PME and SWITCH and, 54 for 
REACTIONFIELD
vdw-type    =  Cut-off
rvdw    =  1.4
emtol   =  104.6
emstep  =  0.01
ewald_rtol  =  1e-5
optimize_fft    =  yes

THIRD MINIMIZATION STEP
title   =  min cg
cpp =  /lib/cpp
define  =  -DFLEXIBLE
constraints =  none
integrator  =  cg
nsteps  =  2
nstlist =  10
ns_type =  grid
nstcgsteep  =  100
rlist   =  1.0
pbc            =  xyz
coulombtype =  PME
rcoulomb    =  1.0
vdw-type    =  Cut-off ;Switch
rvdw    =  1.4
emtol   =  41.84
emstep  =  0.01
ewald_rtol  =  1e-5
optimize_fft    =  yes

FOURTH MINIMIZATION STEP
title   =  min_steepest_descent
cpp =  /lib/cpp
define  =  -DFLEXIBLE
constraints =  none
integrator  =  l-bfgs ;steep
nsteps  =  2
nstlist =  10
ns_type =  grid
rlist   =  1.0
pbc            =  xyz
coulombtype =  PME
rcoulomb    =  1.0
epsilon-r   =  1.0 ;1 for CUTOFF, PME and SWITCH and, 54 for 
REACTIONFIELD
vdw-type    =  Cut-off
rvdw    =  1.4
emtol   =  41.84
emstep  =  0.01
ewald_rtol  =  1e-5
optimize_fft    =  yes

WATER DYNAMICS
title    = 500ps_pr_fixo
cpp  = /lib/cpp
define   = -DPOSRES
integrator   = md
tinit    = 0
dt   = 0.002
nsteps   = 25 ; total 500 ps
comm-mode    = Linear
nstcomm  = 1
nstxout  = 500
nstvout  = 2
nstfout  = 2
nstlog   = 1000
nstenergy    = 100
nstxtcout    = 500
xtc-precision    = 1000
energygrps   = Protein SOL NA 
nstlist  = 5
ns_type  = grid
pbc  = xyz
rlist    = 1.0
domain-decomposition = no
coulombtype  = PME
rcoulomb = 1.0
epsilon-r    = 1
vdw-type = Cut-off
rvdw = 1.4
DispCorr = EnerPres
optimize_fft = yes
Tcoupl   = V-rescale ;berendsen
tc-grps  = Protein Non-protein   
tau-t    = .1 .1 
ref-t    = 310 310
gen_vel  = yes
gen_temp = 310
gen_seed = 173529
Pcoupl   = berendsen
Pcoupltype   = Isotropic
tau-p    = 1
compressibility  = 4.5e-5
ref-p    = 1
constraints  = all-bonds
constraint-algorithm = Lincs
unconstrained-start  = no
Shake-SOR    = no
shake-tol    = 1e-04
lincs-order  = 4
lincs-warnangle  = 30
morse    = no

SYSTEM DYNAMICS
title    = 10 ns
cpp  = /lib/cpp
include  = 
define   = 
integrator 

Re: [gmx-users] bonds braking

2012-10-15 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 10/15/12 8:40 AM, Eduardo Oliveira wrote:

Thanks!

So, if i understood correctly the correct workflow of trjconf?



I posted the link for two reasons: (1) so you would understand the nature of 
what was actually happening in the simulation and (2) so you would be aware of 
the solution.  In your case, a protein in water, the remedy is very easy:


trjconv -pbc mol -ur compact -center

Center on the protein.  You can apply various fitting operations afterwards if 
you like.


-Justin



*De:* Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
*Para:* Eduardo Oliveira eduardo...@yahoo.com.br; Discussion list for GROMACS
users gmx-users@gromacs.org
*Enviadas:* Segunda-feira, 15 de Outubro de 2012 9:14
*Assunto:* Re: [gmx-users] bonds braking



On 10/15/12 8:09 AM, Eduardo Oliveira wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I'm having trouble simulating a protein kinase on water. During the
simulation, the molecule moves towards the box limits and some residues apear on
the other side. Almost like they are interacting with water molecules on
different sides of the box. I'm on my third simulation and the problem persists.
I've already tried changing the periodic conditions but with no success. Waht
are your thoughts on that?
 
  For additional information:
  Before the dynamics step I performed 4 minimization steps then i did water
dynamics and the entire system dynamics.
  Here is all the .mdp  files.
 
  Sorry in advance for the long email.
 

This is a perfectly normal consequence of PBC.

http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Periodic_Boundary_Conditions

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] bonds braking

2012-10-15 Thread Eduardo Oliveira
Thanks a lot!




 De: Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
Para: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org 
Enviadas: Segunda-feira, 15 de Outubro de 2012 9:42
Assunto: Re: [gmx-users] bonds braking
 


On 10/15/12 8:40 AM, Eduardo Oliveira wrote:
 Thanks!

 So, if i understood correctly the correct workflow of trjconf?


I posted the link for two reasons: (1) so you would understand the nature of 
what was actually happening in the simulation and (2) so you would be aware of 
the solution.  In your case, a protein in water, the remedy is very easy:

trjconv -pbc mol -ur compact -center

Center on the protein.  You can apply various fitting operations afterwards if 
you like.

-Justin

 
 *De:* Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
 *Para:* Eduardo Oliveira eduardo...@yahoo.com.br; Discussion list for 
 GROMACS
 users gmx-users@gromacs.org
 *Enviadas:* Segunda-feira, 15 de Outubro de 2012 9:14
 *Assunto:* Re: [gmx-users] bonds braking



 On 10/15/12 8:09 AM, Eduardo Oliveira wrote:
   Hi,
  
   I'm having trouble simulating a protein kinase on water. During the
 simulation, the molecule moves towards the box limits and some residues apear 
 on
 the other side. Almost like they are interacting with water molecules on
 different sides of the box. I'm on my third simulation and the problem 
 persists.
 I've already tried changing the periodic conditions but with no success. Waht
 are your thoughts on that?
  
   For additional information:
   Before the dynamics step I performed 4 minimization steps then i did water
 dynamics and the entire system dynamics.
   Here is all the .mdp  files.
  
   Sorry in advance for the long email.
  

 This is a perfectly normal consequence of PBC.

 http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Periodic_Boundary_Conditions

 -Justin

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[gmx-users] about equilibrium

2012-10-15 Thread mohammad agha


Dear Gromacs Users,



I have one system consists of: surfactant, solvent and additives. I made one 
box with only solvent and one box with only additives and equilibrated them 
little separable for better placing into the box, and then made one box with 
surfactant and then placed box of solvent and additives (that before I had 
equilibrated them separable) in the box of surfactant (by genbox) and 
equilibrated it totally. 

May I know that this work is correct or not, Please?
Best Regards
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Re: [gmx-users] losing data in trjconv?

2012-10-15 Thread Gil Claudio
Hi Justin,

My original intention was to lessen the 5 ns trajectory to transfer to another 
drive. I did

trjconv -f traj.trr -o traj_1.trr -b 0 -e 4000

When I saw the resulting file greatly lessened in size, that's when I tried as 
a test

trjconv -f traj.trr -o traj_1.trr

I knew that it was not supposed to do anything, hence my surprise upon seeing 
the file size decrease by ~25%.

No other flags were used.

I'll do your suggestion in 2 days. Am out of the lab till then.

Thanks

Gil Claudio

On Oct 15, 2012, at 7:55 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:

 
 
 On 10/15/12 7:50 AM, Gil Claudio wrote:
 Hi Peter,
 
 Same machine, all single precision.
 
 
 Run gmxcheck -f -f2 on the two trajectories to see what's going on.  Can you 
 explain what you were trying to do?  I see no point in the trjconv command 
 you ran.  Were there other flags that you haven't shown?  Other commands that 
 produced strange results that led you to simplify the trjconv command down to 
 something that (in theory) doesn't do anything?
 
 -Justin
 
 On Oct 15, 2012, at 5:39 PM, Peter C. Lai p...@uab.edu wrote:
 
 Was traj.trr output by the same machine/mdrun as the machine you are running
 trjconv on?
 
 Is traj.trr (or the mdrun that wrote it) double precision and trjconv is
 compiled float (single precision)?
 
 On 2012-10-15 02:31:00AM -0700, Gil Claudio wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 When I do the following command
 
 trjconv -f traj.trr -o traj_1.trr
 
 the file size of traj_1.trr is around 25% smaller than traj.trr.
 
 Does traj_1.trr contain less data than traj.trr?
 
 Thanks
 
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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Concerning a Fatal Error!

2012-10-15 Thread Arman Mahboubi Soufiani
Dear Justin,

Thank you for your help, however, the problem was originated from absence
of -table table_d1.xvg flag in my mdrun command.
Now it is fixed.

BR

Arman

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 On 10/13/12 9:49 AM, Arman Mahboubi Soufiani wrote:

 Dear Justin,

 The followings are the two successive commands I used:

 *grompp -f justPLA.mdp -c 20LA-2layer-4chains.gro -p t-PLA.top -o
 justPLA-em.tpr

 mdrun -deffnm justPLa-em*


 These commands would not produce the error posted previously.  The error
 would have resulted from:

 mdrun -deffnm justPLA-em.tpr

 The fact that the capitalization is different and the nature of the suffix
 supports this conclusion.  It is better to copy directly from the terminal
 rather than try to recreate what you did.  In any case, proper invocation
 of the command should solve the issue.  mdrun is looking for an .xvg file
 containing parameters for a tabulated dihedral; it needs to be named
 appropriately to function correctly.


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Re: [gmx-users] Force calculations were truncated at a distance of 1.2 nm

2012-10-15 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 10/15/12 9:04 AM, Ali Alizadeh wrote:

Dear All users

I want to specify this statement in my input files but Where does it
specify?( i don't know!)
I know but i do not certain,

Force calculations were truncated at a distance of 1.2 nm



That likely refers to cutoff values.

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Re: [gmx-users] about equilibrium

2012-10-15 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 10/15/12 8:56 AM, mohammad agha wrote:



Dear Gromacs Users,



I have one system consists of: surfactant, solvent and additives. I made one 
box with only solvent and one box with only additives and equilibrated them 
little separable for better placing into the box, and then made one box with 
surfactant and then placed box of solvent and additives (that before I had 
equilibrated them separable) in the box of surfactant (by genbox) and 
equilibrated it totally.

May I know that this work is correct or not, Please?


Maybe.  It's hard to tell.  Note that when you post the same thing four times 
and do not get a reply, it's usually due to the fact that it's hard for us to 
figure out what's going on.


I don't know what your goal is but your approach is a bit hard to comprehend as 
written.  One can usually build a multi-component system rather easily with a 
few invocations of genbox -ci -nmol, but then too, I don't know if you need some 
particular configuration (surfactant micelles?) or if random positions will 
suffice.  Prior equilibration of solvent is probably a good approach.


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[gmx-users] The problem of converting CGenff parameters to those of Gromacs

2012-10-15 Thread spin
Hello, everyone.

I used the Mark's script's to convert the CGenff (version 2b7 ) parameter
file to Gromacs .itp files. In the ffcharmmnb.itp, the script gave the c6
and c12, while the charmm's ffnonbond.itp showed  epsilon and sigma.I do not
understand the relation between the  c6/c12 and epsilon and sigma, and I
have a poor Perl skill. Can someone give me a solution?  In addition, the
script makes all atoms' charge zero in the file, which is not the case in
the ffnonbond.itp. Why is it?

Thank you!

Qing Liu



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[gmx-users] g_dipole

2012-10-15 Thread Nilesh Dhumal
Hello,

I am calculating the dipole moment auto-correlation function for my system
which have 128 cation and 128 anion.

Due to the PBC, the function of the total dipole moment in time is not
continuous.

Can I removed PBC for g_dipole?



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Re: [gmx-users] The problem of converting CGenff parameters to those of Gromacs

2012-10-15 Thread Peter C. Lai
Isn't Mark's script outdated for this purpose?

charmm forcefields specify epsilon and sigmas so you only need to convert 
them:

gromacs(sigma) = (charmm(Rmin/2)/10) * (2/(2^(1/6)))
gromacs(epsilon) = charmm(eps) * 4.184

For 1-4 pair interactions,
gromacs(sigma1,4 i,j) = (charmm(Rmin/2_1,4_i) + charmm(Rmin/2_1,4_j))/(2^1/6)

gromacs(eps1,4 i,j) = sqrt(charmm(eps_1,4_i) * charmm(eps_1,4_j)) * 4.184

On 2012-10-15 07:27:51AM -0700, spin wrote:
 Hello, everyone.
 
 I used the Mark's script's to convert the CGenff (version 2b7 ) parameter
 file to Gromacs .itp files. In the ffcharmmnb.itp, the script gave the c6
 and c12, while the charmm's ffnonbond.itp showed  epsilon and sigma.I do not
 understand the relation between the  c6/c12 and epsilon and sigma, and I
 have a poor Perl skill. Can someone give me a solution?  In addition, the
 script makes all atoms' charge zero in the file, which is not the case in
 the ffnonbond.itp. Why is it?
 
 Thank you!
 
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Re: [gmx-users] The problem of converting CGenff parameters to those of Gromacs

2012-10-15 Thread David van der Spoel

On 2012-10-15 16:53, Peter C. Lai wrote:

Isn't Mark's script outdated for this purpose?


I just uploaded a new script that seems to work:

http://www.gromacs.org/@api/deki/files/185/=charmm2gromacs-pvm.py

Please check the comment on 
http://www.gromacs.org/Downloads/User_contributions/Other_software




charmm forcefields specify epsilon and sigmas so you only need to convert
them:

gromacs(sigma) = (charmm(Rmin/2)/10) * (2/(2^(1/6)))
gromacs(epsilon) = charmm(eps) * 4.184

For 1-4 pair interactions,
gromacs(sigma1,4 i,j) = (charmm(Rmin/2_1,4_i) + charmm(Rmin/2_1,4_j))/(2^1/6)

gromacs(eps1,4 i,j) = sqrt(charmm(eps_1,4_i) * charmm(eps_1,4_j)) * 4.184

On 2012-10-15 07:27:51AM -0700, spin wrote:

Hello, everyone.

I used the Mark's script's to convert the CGenff (version 2b7 ) parameter
file to Gromacs .itp files. In the ffcharmmnb.itp, the script gave the c6
and c12, while the charmm's ffnonbond.itp showed  epsilon and sigma.I do not
understand the relation between the  c6/c12 and epsilon and sigma, and I
have a poor Perl skill. Can someone give me a solution?  In addition, the
script makes all atoms' charge zero in the file, which is not the case in
the ffnonbond.itp. Why is it?

Thank you!

Qing Liu



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[gmx-users] Re: Diatomic in MeCN NPT (NH and PR) simulation segfaults after 1 us

2012-10-15 Thread benjfitz
As a further check I ran a neat solvent box and the simulation ends abruptly
at 1.07 us. 



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[gmx-users] no groups in indexfile!

2012-10-15 Thread Amir Abbasi
Hi !
I want to use g_sgangle to find distance between two groups (each group 
includes 3 atoms).
I use this command:
g_sgangle -s md_1.tpr -f md_1_noPBC.xtc -n index.ndx -oa 12_angle.xvg -od 
12_dist.xvg
but i got this error
Fatal error:
Error: no groups in indexfile

my index file:
 [ G3 ]
76    81    85
 [ G4 ]
110    115    119

Best Regards,
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Re: [gmx-users] calculating the water mol

2012-10-15 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 10/15/12 10:12 AM, Rajiv Gandhi wrote:

Dear Gromacs.

In experimental it says that the number of water molecule present in dimer
interface could be varied upon time of ligation process. I want to
calculate the number of water molecules in the protein dimer interface
during the simulation. Could advice me how it can be done?  Thanks in
advance.



g_select can likely do this.  Others have attempted similar tasks in the past; 
check the archive for tips and the lengthy help documentation provided with 
g_select -select 'help all'


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[gmx-users] about equilibrium

2012-10-15 Thread mohammad agha


Dear Justin,

Thank you very much from your response. This question was because of my 
previous problems about equilibration the box that I sent it with subject 
equilibrium for box of simulation. When I equilibrate solvent and additives 
separated and then add to surfactant and after that equilibrate totally, there 
are not previous problems and I wanted to know that this method is correct?

Best Regards
Sara




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To: mohammad agha mra...@yahoo.com; Discussion list for GROMACS users 
gmx-users@gromacs.org 
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] about equilibrium



On 10/15/12 8:56 AM, mohammad agha wrote:
 
 
 Dear Gromacs Users,
 
 
 
 I have one system consists of: surfactant, solvent and additives. I made one 
 box with only solvent and one box with only additives and equilibrated them 
 little separable for better placing into the box, and then made one box with 
 surfactant and then placed box of solvent and additives (that before I had 
 equilibrated them separable) in the box of surfactant (by genbox) and 
 equilibrated it totally.
 
 May I know that this work is correct or not, Please?

Maybe.  It's hard to tell.  Note that when you post the same thing four times 
and do not get a reply, it's usually due to the fact that it's hard for us to 
figure out what's going on.

I don't know what your goal is but your approach is a bit hard to comprehend as 
written.  One can usually build a multi-component system rather easily with a 
few invocations of genbox -ci -nmol, but then too, I don't know if you need 
some particular configuration (surfactant micelles?) or if random positions 
will suffice.  Prior equilibration of solvent is probably a good approach.

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Diatomic in MeCN NPT (NH and PR) simulation segfaults after 1 us

2012-10-15 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 10/15/12 11:45 AM, benjfitz wrote:

As a further check I ran a neat solvent box and the simulation ends abruptly
at 1.07 us.




These results suggest that your physical model is unstable.  A linear model of a 
triatomic species is not stable.  A more appropriate approach is to use virtual 
sites as in the following tutorial:


http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin/gmx-tutorials/vsites/index.html

Also note that your cutoffs should not be dictated by your box size, rather the 
opposite should be true.  The cutoffs are an essential part of the force field 
model and changing them haphazardly can easily invalidate that force field model.


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Re: [gmx-users] no groups in indexfile!

2012-10-15 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 10/15/12 11:48 AM, Amir Abbasi wrote:

Hi !
I want to use g_sgangle to find distance between two groups (each group 
includes 3 atoms).
I use this command:
g_sgangle -s md_1.tpr -f md_1_noPBC.xtc -n index.ndx -oa 12_angle.xvg -od 
12_dist.xvg
but i got this error
Fatal error:
Error: no groups in indexfile

my index file:
  [ G3 ]
768185
  [ G4 ]
110115119



The most likely explanation is that you have some problem with non-Unix line 
endings in the file.  Note that if you just need distances between groups, 
g_dist is more efficient for that calculation.


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Re: [gmx-users] about equilibrium

2012-10-15 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 10/15/12 12:11 PM, mohammad agha wrote:



Dear Justin,

Thank you very much from your response. This question was because of my previous problems 
about equilibration the box that I sent it with subject equilibrium for box of 
simulation. When I equilibrate solvent and additives separated and then add to 
surfactant and after that equilibrate totally, there are not previous problems and I 
wanted to know that this method is correct?



Please provide a link to the previous thread.  I read hundreds of posts per 
week; I don't recall this one.  A sequence of commands would also be helpful 
here, as I cannot clearly envision what you are describing.


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[gmx-users] about equilibrium

2012-10-15 Thread mohammad agha
Dear Justin,

The previous problems was as is following:

 Dear GROMACS Users,

 I asked this question before but I don't understand it!



 I placed several materials in my box of simulation for example box with
 6nm*6nm*6nm and my materials are not placed in the smaller box but when
 I equilibrate my system, the box became smaller and temperature and 
pressure also equilibrate. my question is: is my system and equilibrate 
mistake, because of reach to smaller box? Is there equilibriums with 
reach to smaller box?



What do you mean by my materials are not placed in the smaller box?

If a box compresses, it is because the initial configuration was incompatible 
with the desired equilibration conditions and it contracted produce the desired 
quantity (likely pressure).

-Justin

 Dear Justin,
 
 my materials are not placed in the 
smaller box means if I select box with dimensions 5.99 nm, space is low
 and insufficient for my molecules! but after equilibrate the box become
 small.

Please define what you mean here.  You start with a 6-nm 
cubic box.  How small does it get?  Are the box vectors trending 
downward, or do they converge?  What is the change in density, and is it
 acceptable?

 According what you said, when the box become smaller in equilibrium, there is 
 not mistake and it is natural?
 

That
 depends on the magnitude of the change.  Compression indicates that the
 pressure (and thus density of the system) was not at the desired value 
and the system is contracting.  The manner in which the contraction 
occurs (magnitude, speed) is the deciding factor as to whether or not 
there is a problem.

also,


 Dear Mark,


  May I know your idea about cause of my doubt, Please?

As I said yesterday:

 At least one of your volume, contents or model physics are not 
 consistent with the others, but only you can say which. 

Since only you know anything about your volume, contents and model 
physics, or that of the work you think you should be replicating, we 
can't help at the moment. See previous comment about relevant 
information :-)

Mark


 Best Regards
 Sara



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 Subject: Re: [gmx-users] equilibrium for box of simulation

 On 5/10/2012 3:55 PM, mohammad agha wrote:
 Dear Justin,

 Thank you very much.
 So, decreasing of box dimensions is not bad, if all thing process natural, 
 yes?

 The cause of my doubt was because of in the most of articles was said 
for example  we select box with dimensions 10nm that after equilibrium 
was converted to 11nm and I didn't see the report of decreasing of box 
dimensions! May I know your idea about it, Please?
 Following a 
published method closely and observing an opposite result is a cause for
 concern. You have to judge closely, however. You should have said 
earlier this was one of your reasons for doubt, rather than leave us to 
guess. The quality of the help you might receive is often in direct 
proportion to the quantity of relevant information you give in asking 
for it.

 Mark


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On 10/15/12 12:11 PM, mohammad agha wrote:


 Dear Justin,

 Thank you very much from your response. This question was because of my 
 previous problems about equilibration the box that I sent it with subject 
 equilibrium for box of simulation. When I equilibrate solvent and additives 
 separated and then add to surfactant and after that equilibrate totally, 
 there are not previous problems and I wanted to know that this method is 
 correct?


Please provide a link to the previous thread.  I read hundreds of posts per 
week; I don't recall this one.  A sequence of commands would also be helpful 
here, as I cannot clearly envision what you are describing.

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] about equilibrium

2012-10-15 Thread Justin Lemkul


I didn't see anything inherently wrong with your previous observations, so I 
suspect your new approach is probably fine.  There are several ways to do just 
about anything; you just need to find one that works to your satisfaction and 
represents a reasonable model of whatever you're trying to simulate.


-Justin

On 10/15/12 12:37 PM, mohammad agha wrote:

Dear Justin,

The previous problems was as is following:


Dear GROMACS Users,

I asked this question before but I don't understand it!




  I placed several materials in my box of simulation for example box with
  6nm*6nm*6nm and my materials are not placed in the smaller box but when
  I equilibrate my system, the box became smaller and temperature and
pressure also equilibrate. my question is: is my system and equilibrate
mistake, because of reach to smaller box? Is there equilibriums with
reach to smaller box?





What do you mean by my materials are not placed in the smaller box?

If a box compresses, it is because the initial configuration was incompatible
with the desired equilibration conditions and it contracted produce the desired
quantity (likely pressure).

-Justin


Dear Justin,

my materials are not placed in the

smaller box means if I select box with dimensions 5.99 nm, space is low
  and insufficient for my molecules! but after equilibrate the box become
  small.

Please define what you mean here.  You start with a 6-nm
cubic box.  How small does it get?  Are the box vectors trending
downward, or do they converge?  What is the change in density, and is it
  acceptable?


According what you said, when the box become smaller in equilibrium, there is 
not mistake and it is natural?



That
  depends on the magnitude of the change.  Compression indicates that the
  pressure (and thus density of the system) was not at the desired value
and the system is contracting.  The manner in which the contraction
occurs (magnitude, speed) is the deciding factor as to whether or not
there is a problem.

also,



Dear Mark,



May I know your idea about cause of my doubt, Please?


As I said yesterday:


At least one of your volume, contents or model physics are not
consistent with the others, but only you can say which.


Since only you know anything about your volume, contents and model
physics, or that of the work you think you should be replicating, we
can't help at the moment. See previous comment about relevant
information :-)

Mark



Best Regards
Sara



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Cc:
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] equilibrium for box of simulation

On 5/10/2012 3:55 PM, mohammad agha wrote:

Dear Justin,

Thank you very much.
So, decreasing of box dimensions is not bad, if all thing process natural, yes?


  The cause of my doubt was because of in the most of articles was said
for example  we select box with dimensions 10nm that after equilibrium
was converted to 11nm and I didn't see the report of decreasing of box
dimensions! May I know your idea about it, Please?

Following a

published method closely and observing an opposite result is a cause for
  concern. You have to judge closely, however. You should have said
earlier this was one of your reasons for doubt, rather than leave us to
guess. The quality of the help you might receive is often in direct
proportion to the quantity of relevant information you give in asking
for it.


Mark



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From: Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
To: mohammad agha mra...@yahoo.com; Discussion list for GROMACS users 
gmx-users@gromacs.org
Cc:
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] about equilibrium



On 10/15/12 12:11 PM, mohammad agha wrote:



Dear Justin,

Thank you very much from your response. This question was because of my previous problems 
about equilibration the box that I sent it with subject equilibrium for box of 
simulation. When I equilibrate solvent and additives separated and then add to 
surfactant and after that equilibrate totally, there are not previous problems and I 
wanted to know that this method is correct?



Please provide a link to the previous thread.  I read hundreds of posts per
week; I don't recall this one.  A sequence of commands would also be helpful
here, as I cannot clearly envision what you are describing.

-Justin



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Department of Biochemistry
Virginia Tech
Blacksburg, VA
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Re: [gmx-users] no groups in indexfile!

2012-10-15 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 10/15/12 1:03 PM, Amir Abbasi wrote:

tnx But I need these two planes angle too.
what should I do?
can I convert all of trajectory file to pdb?
in order to do these manually?



That would be extremely inefficient.  Determining what's wrong with your index 
file is probably a much better solution.


-Justin




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*Sent:* Monday, October 15, 2012 7:47 PM
*Subject:* Re: [gmx-users] no groups in indexfile!



On 10/15/12 11:48 AM, Amir Abbasi wrote:
  Hi !
  I want to use g_sgangle to find distance between two groups (each group
includes 3 atoms).
  I use this command:
  g_sgangle -s md_1.tpr -f md_1_noPBC.xtc -n index.ndx -oa 12_angle.xvg -od
12_dist.xvg
  but i got this error
  Fatal error:
  Error: no groups in indexfile
 
  my index file:
   [ G3 ]
  768185
   [ G4 ]
  110115119
 

The most likely explanation is that you have some problem with non-Unix line
endings in the file.  Note that if you just need distances between groups,
g_dist is more efficient for that calculation.

-Justin

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Blacksburg, VA
jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080
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[gmx-users] about equilibrium

2012-10-15 Thread mohammad agha
Dear Justin,

Thank you very much from your time.

Best Regards
Sara



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To: mohammad agha mra...@yahoo.com; Discussion list for GROMACS users 
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Cc: 
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] about equilibrium


I didn't see anything inherently wrong with your previous observations, so I 
suspect your new approach is probably fine.  There are several ways to do just 
about anything; you just need to find one that works to your satisfaction and 
represents a reasonable model of whatever you're trying to simulate.

-Justin

On 10/15/12 12:37 PM, mohammad agha wrote:
 Dear Justin,

 The previous problems was as is following:

 Dear GROMACS Users,

 I asked this question before but I don't understand it!



   I placed several materials in my box of simulation for example box with
   6nm*6nm*6nm and my materials are not placed in the smaller box but when
   I equilibrate my system, the box became smaller and temperature and
 pressure also equilibrate. my question is: is my system and equilibrate
 mistake, because of reach to smaller box? Is there equilibriums with
 reach to smaller box?



 What do you mean by my materials are not placed in the smaller box?

 If a box compresses, it is because the initial configuration was incompatible
 with the desired equilibration conditions and it contracted produce the 
 desired
 quantity (likely pressure).

 -Justin

 Dear Justin,

 my materials are not placed in the
 smaller box means if I select box with dimensions 5.99 nm, space is low
   and insufficient for my molecules! but after equilibrate the box become
   small.

 Please define what you mean here.  You start with a 6-nm
 cubic box.  How small does it get?  Are the box vectors trending
 downward, or do they converge?  What is the change in density, and is it
   acceptable?

 According what you said, when the box become smaller in equilibrium, there 
 is not mistake and it is natural?


 That
   depends on the magnitude of the change.  Compression indicates that the
   pressure (and thus density of the system) was not at the desired value
 and the system is contracting.  The manner in which the contraction
 occurs (magnitude, speed) is the deciding factor as to whether or not
 there is a problem.

 also,


 Dear Mark,


 May I know your idea about cause of my doubt, Please?

 As I said yesterday:

 At least one of your volume, contents or model physics are not
 consistent with the others, but only you can say which.

 Since only you know anything about your volume, contents and model
 physics, or that of the work you think you should be replicating, we
 can't help at the moment. See previous comment about relevant
 information :-)

 Mark


 Best Regards
 Sara



 - Original Message -
 From: Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.au
 To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org
 Cc:
 Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 9:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [gmx-users] equilibrium for box of simulation

 On 5/10/2012 3:55 PM, mohammad agha wrote:
 Dear Justin,

 Thank you very much.
 So, decreasing of box dimensions is not bad, if all thing process natural, 
 yes?

   The cause of my doubt was because of in the most of articles was said
 for example  we select box with dimensions 10nm that after equilibrium
 was converted to 11nm and I didn't see the report of decreasing of box
 dimensions! May I know your idea about it, Please?
 Following a
 published method closely and observing an opposite result is a cause for
   concern. You have to judge closely, however. You should have said
 earlier this was one of your reasons for doubt, rather than leave us to
 guess. The quality of the help you might receive is often in direct
 proportion to the quantity of relevant information you give in asking
 for it.

 Mark


 - Forwarded Message -
 From: Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
 To: mohammad agha mra...@yahoo.com; Discussion list for GROMACS users 
 gmx-users@gromacs.org
 Cc:
 Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 7:50 PM
 Subject: Re: [gmx-users] about equilibrium



 On 10/15/12 12:11 PM, mohammad agha wrote:


 Dear Justin,

 Thank you very much from your response. This question was because of my 
 previous problems about equilibration the box that I sent it with subject 
 equilibrium for box of simulation. When I equilibrate solvent and 
 additives separated and then add to surfactant and after that equilibrate 
 totally, there are not previous problems and I wanted to know that this 
 method is correct?


 Please provide a link to the previous thread.  I read hundreds of posts per
 week; I don't recall this one.  A sequence of commands would also be helpful
 here, as I cannot clearly envision what you are describing.

 -Justin


-- 


Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D.
Research Scientist
Department of Biochemistry
Virginia Tech
Blacksburg, VA
jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080

[gmx-users] Re: amount of solvent

2012-10-15 Thread Christopher Neale
Not answering your main question here, just pointing out that you should try:

trjconv -pbc mol -ur compact

and then visualize with VMD to see if you are actually getting what you want 
after all.

Chris.

-- original message --

I already pack the mixed solvent by using packmol cause the box that i
used octahedron.Therefore the error that coming out is that topology
and the gro file does not
same. When I view the solvent by VMD  its just shows that the mixture
only fill in the cubic form even though the starting box that i need
was octahedron.
So I would like to ask you guys if I already pack all the molecule,i
need to create the new topology right? before start to minimize?

Regards,
SHika
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[gmx-users] Load imbalance logging, how to limit it?

2012-10-15 Thread Ladasky
I'm getting control over my .mdp files, cutting down on the generation of
data for which I currently have no use.  I just changed the nstenergy
parameter to 2500 cycles, much larger than its default value of 100 cycles. 
This reduced logging still gives me plenty of data for monitoring the
stability of long runs.

In my .log file, however, load imbalances are still being reported every 10
cycles.  Once in a while, I'll get a 15% to 20% load imbalance, but most of
the time it's under 2%.  It's nothing that I seem to need to worry about at
this time.  I would like to reduce the load imbalance reporting frequency as
well.  What is the .mdp file key word that accomplishes this?

Thanks once again.



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