[gmx-users] how to convert CGenFF into .itp file?

2012-12-26 Thread Albert

hello:

   I found the script charmm2gromacs-pvm.py 
http://www.gromacs.org/@api/deki/files/185/=charmm2gromacs-pvm.py 
which claimed could convert the output from CGenFF into Gromacs format. 
However, I tried many times and it always failed even with the advices 
from previous thread. This script is trying to generate something like 
what we see in a complete forcefiled folder instead of a single .itp 
file for ligand.


  I am just wondering, how can we convert the output from CGenFF into a 
single .itp file which is similar to the one from Swissparam?


thank you very much
best
Albert
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Re: [gmx-users] how to convert CGenFF into .itp file?

2012-12-26 Thread Peter C. Lai
You don't. CGenFF is a forcefield, like CHARMM36. You install it, add rtp
entries then use pdb2gmx to generate a ligand's topology .itp file

On 2012-12-26 11:35:46AM +0100, Albert wrote:
 hello:
 
 I found the script charmm2gromacs-pvm.py 
 http://www.gromacs.org/@api/deki/files/185/=charmm2gromacs-pvm.py 
 which claimed could convert the output from CGenFF into Gromacs format. 
 However, I tried many times and it always failed even with the advices 
 from previous thread. This script is trying to generate something like 
 what we see in a complete forcefiled folder instead of a single .itp 
 file for ligand.
 
I am just wondering, how can we convert the output from CGenFF into a 
 single .itp file which is similar to the one from Swissparam?
 
 thank you very much
 best
 Albert
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Re: [gmx-users] how to convert CGenFF into .itp file?

2012-12-26 Thread Albert

On 12/26/2012 12:18 PM, Peter C. Lai wrote:

You don't. CGenFF is a forcefield, like CHARMM36. You install it, add rtp
entries then use pdb2gmx to generate a ligand's topology .itp file


THX
but the problem is how to use this script? I've already download the 
latest CGenFF file from CHARMM FF websiteIt is a folder.

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Re: [gmx-users] merge .gro, .top files

2012-12-26 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi KT,

To update the number of atoms in a merged .gro file, assuming a single
frame and no empty lines after the box definition, you have to replace the
second line with the number of lines minus three:

sed '2s/^.*$/'$(wc -l file.gro)'/' file.gro  out.gro

Cheers,

Tsjerk

On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 7:33 AM, Kieu Thu Nguyen kieuthu2...@gmail.comwrote:

 But i don't see file gromacs_topology_merger.py in the web Vedat gave me.

 Tsjerk, can you give me the script for updating the number of atoms ? I
 searched in google, but i have not found it yet. It's really my stupid
 question, but i don't know why.

 Thanks !
 Best regards,

 KT


 On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Kieu Thu Nguyen kieuthu2...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  thank all so much :-)
 
  KT
 
  On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Vedat Durmaz dur...@zib.de wrote:
 
  there's also an executable topology merger available written in python
  called gromacs_topology_merger.py as part of a the software package
  ZIBMolPy designed for conformational analysis at
 
  https://github.com/CMD-at-ZIB/**ZIBMolPy
 https://github.com/CMD-at-ZIB/ZIBMolPy
 
  given (in the same directory) a topology file topol.top (argument 1)
  and two (or more) itp files mol1.itp and mol2.itp included in the
 top
  file, the tool writes out a new topology file (argument 2) merging the
  first two molecules from the include sequence of which itp files are
 given.
 
  note: the number of molecules to be merged should be 1 in the [
 molecules
  ] section. if one of them is meant to appear multiple times in the
 merged
  topology, the process needs to be repeated accordingly.
 
  vedat
 
 
  Am 18.12.2012 09:38, schrieb Erik Marklund:
 
  18 dec 2012 kl. 09.30 skrev Tsjerk Wassenaar:
 
  Hi KT,
 
  If you mean concatenating frames in .gro files, you can use trjcat or
  just
  cat. If you mean merging the coordinates, it's a wee bit more
  complicated.
  Since you also ask for top files, I guess that's the case. Here's a
  snippet
  of python code that will do the trick:
 
  #!/usr/bin/env python
 
  import sys
 
  f = [open(i).readlines() for i in sys.argv[1:]]
  print Merged gro file\n%5d % (sum([len(i) for i in f]) - 3*len(f))
  print .join([.join(i[2:-1]) for i in f]),
  print f[0][-1]
 
 
  For the top files, it is necessary to ensure all the moleculetypes are
  #included, and that the [ molecules ] listing under [ system ] has the
  right number and order of the molecules in the merged gro file.
 There's
  no
  tool for that that I know of.
 
  In principle you could use grompp for checking that. It would print out
  a heap of warinngs/notes/errors if structure file and topology don't
 match.
 
  Erik
 
  Cheers,
 
  Tsjerk
 
 
  On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 6:18 AM, Kieu Thu Nguyen 
 kieuthu2...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Dear All,
 
  I don't know which tools used to merge 2 files .gro, 2 files .top ?
  Can i use trjcat ?
 
  Thanks !
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Re: [gmx-users] how to convert CGenFF into .itp file?

2012-12-26 Thread Albert

On 12/26/2012 12:39 PM, Peter C. Lai wrote:

It should come with two files. A .prm file, which contains the actual
forcefield parameters that you use the script to convert to bonded and
nonbonded .itp and atomtypes.atp The .rtf file is the charmm equivalent of
our .rtp file: it contains some premade residue topologies with charge and
connectivity information. I don't know if there are scripts to convert this or
not, but it's easy enough to get what you need by hand especially since if
your ligand isn't in there, you'll have to create the .rtp entry on your own
or get them from paramchem anyway...


THX for comments. It works now and I get a folder called cgenff-2b7.ff 
like what we seen in the share/top folder for other FF.



that's too complicated to real use. Initially,  I thought that the 
output for the ligand should be a single .itp file like what we found in 
Swissparam.


Probably one can consider improve this script. As far as I know the 
CGenFF website can export full parameters for the ligand even it is 
already exist in CGenFF off line files. In this cases, the output file 
fro CGenFF website is independent from the offline FF and it already has 
complete necessary information for paramters and topology). Probably one 
can consider improve this script and export the output file as a single 
.itp file.


best
Albert
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[gmx-users] About topology for cyclic petide

2012-12-26 Thread vidhya sankar
Dear justin 

    Thank you for your Previous reply
I Have Successfully constructed topology for cyclic peptide  using spce bond 
and Other Appropriate Changes in the . top files 

Yet I Want to make CO Terminal  But When I interactively Choose the Terminal  
By pdb2gmx  It Shows Only 

1)COO -
2)COOH
3)None 

I want to Make One more Choice Namely CO For C-Terminal Residue of (LAst 
Residue ) My Cyclic Peptide 

It Adds One Two oxygen atom on the Carbon Atom (O1  O2) . But I Need the 
Addition Of One Oxygen Atom
How to Do It ?
 Which Database file  Should I EDIT ? .C Terminal Data Base

Thanks In Advance 

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Re: [gmx-users] About topology for cyclic petide

2012-12-26 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 12/26/12 9:50 AM, vidhya sankar wrote:

Dear justin

 Thank you for your Previous reply
I Have Successfully constructed topology for cyclic peptide  using spce bond 
and Other Appropriate Changes in the . top files

Yet I Want to make CO Terminal  But When I interactively Choose the Terminal  
By pdb2gmx  It Shows Only

1)COO -
2)COOH
3)None

I want to Make One more Choice Namely CO For C-Terminal Residue of (LAst 
Residue ) My Cyclic Peptide

It Adds One Two oxygen atom on the Carbon Atom (O1  O2) . But I Need the 
Addition Of One Oxygen Atom
How to Do It ?


It sounds like you made the wrong choice.  The proper selection is None such 
that your C-terminus is treated like any internal residue and is engaged in a 
peptide bond with the N-terminus.  The actual bond in this case is defined in 
specbond.dat since pdb2gmx can only otherwise handle linear sequences of residues.



  Which Database file  Should I EDIT ? .C Terminal Data Base



You don't need to edit anything, you only need to use the terminus selection 
mechanism correctly.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] g_dih calculation doubt

2012-12-26 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 12/26/12 12:57 AM, Kavyashree M wrote:

Dear users,
I was using g_dih to find the phi/psi transitions of a protein
along the trajectory using the following command -
g_dih -f a.xtc -s a.tpr -o dihout.out -b x -e y -w
When it started running it indicated many of the following lines
Dihedral around 7793,7804 not found in topology. Using mult=3
what does it mean..? they are not nearby atoms so as to calculate
dihedral angle..



Clearly g_dih thinks they are.  Refer to your coordinate or topology files to 
find out what those atoms are.  A difference of only 11 atoms is not very large. 
 They could indeed be in the same residue or in a disulfide.



At the end it gave the dihedral transitions of each residue along the
trajectory - it displayed -
Calculated all dihedrals, now analysing...
and then it took backup of all residue transitions creating new
xvg files of the same residues. I compared the two files ie, the
backup file and the corresponding new file there was drastic differences
why is there difference between these two files although both are
plots of degrees v/s time.



Backup files are generated after multiple invocations of a command.  Apparently 
whatever you ran multiple times produced different output.



One more question is some times it shows dihedral values of  more
than 360.. sometimes 1000 etc.. does it mean that the bond has undergone
rotation so many times.. I am sorry  I am not getting this. Also the file
that it generates does not say which is phi/psi specifically. So I suppose
2nd column is phi and 3rd column is psi? it it right?



You'll have to provide snippets of your output, with complete .xvg header 
information here.  Most files are very well labeled so as to make the columns 
obvious.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Convert .psf to .top

2012-12-26 Thread francesco oteri
Hi,
in vmd there is a package called topotools (
https://sites.google.com/site/akohlmey/software/topotools).
This package has the magic command writegmxtop.
Be carefull 'cause the created .top might miss some information (tipically
angles and dihedrals)
so I advice you to carefully check the .top file.

Francesco


2012/12/26 Kieu Thu Nguyen kieuthu2...@gmail.com

 Dear All,

 Are there any method that can convert CHARMM PSF files to Gromacs topology
 files ?

 Thank for any help !
 Best regards,

 KT
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Re: [gmx-users] how to convert CGenFF into .itp file?

2012-12-26 Thread David van der Spoel

On 2012-12-26 13:00, Albert wrote:

On 12/26/2012 12:39 PM, Peter C. Lai wrote:

It should come with two files. A .prm file, which contains the actual
forcefield parameters that you use the script to convert to bonded and
nonbonded .itp and atomtypes.atp The .rtf file is the charmm
equivalent of
our .rtp file: it contains some premade residue topologies with charge
and
connectivity information. I don't know if there are scripts to convert
this or
not, but it's easy enough to get what you need by hand especially
since if
your ligand isn't in there, you'll have to create the .rtp entry on
your own
or get them from paramchem anyway...


THX for comments. It works now and I get a folder called cgenff-2b7.ff
like what we seen in the share/top folder for other FF.


that's too complicated to real use. Initially,  I thought that the
output for the ligand should be a single .itp file like what we found in
Swissparam.

Probably one can consider improve this script. As far as I know the
CGenFF website can export full parameters for the ligand even it is
already exist in CGenFF off line files. In this cases, the output file
fro CGenFF website is independent from the offline FF and it already has
complete necessary information for paramters and topology). Probably one
can consider improve this script and export the output file as a single
.itp file.


Hey, it's open source. Let us know how it goes :).



best
Albert



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Re: [gmx-users] how to convert CGenFF into .itp file?

2012-12-26 Thread Albert

On 12/26/2012 07:53 PM, David van der Spoel wrote:
Hey, it's open source. Let us know how it goes 


you can simple create an account and login

https://www.paramchem.org/

after your login, click upload molecule in left panel. Now you will 
see the option:


Include parameters that are already in CGenFF

tick this option and the server will generate a full version of ligand 
topology  which could be  independent from the offline CGenFF. Now what 
we need is just improve the script and convert it into a single .itp 
file into Gromacs. I think this would be the best solution.


Here is an example output for Methanol molecule from CGenFF


--example--

* Toppar stream file generated by
* CHARMM General Force Field (CGenFF) program version 0.9.6 beta
* For use with CGenFF version 2b7
*

read rtf card append
* Topologies generated by
* CHARMM General Force Field (CGenFF) program version 0.9.6 beta
*
36 1

! penalty is the highest penalty score of the associated parameters.
! Penalties lower than 10 indicate the analogy is fair; penalties between 10
! and 50 mean some basic validation is recommended; penalties higher than
! 50 indicate poor analogy and mandate extensive validation/optimization.

RESI 8870.000 ! param penalty=   0.000 ; charge penalty=   0.000
GROUP! CHARGE   CH_PENALTY
ATOM O  OG311  -0.651 !0.000
ATOM C  CG331  -0.039 !0.000
ATOM H1 HGA30.090 !0.000
ATOM H2 HGA30.090 !0.000
ATOM H3 HGA30.090 !0.000
ATOM H4 HGP10.420 !0.000

BOND OC
BOND OH4
BOND CH1
BOND CH2
BOND CH3

END

read param card flex append
* Parameters generated by analogy by
* CHARMM General Force Field (CGenFF) program version 0.9.6 beta
*

! Penalties lower than 10 indicate the analogy is fair; penalties between 10
! and 50 mean some basic validation is recommended; penalties higher than
! 50 indicate poor analogy and mandate extensive validation/optimization.

BONDS
CG331  OG311   428.00 1.4200 ! PROT methanol vib fit EMB 11/21/89
CG331  HGA3322.00 1.1110 ! PROT alkane update, adm jr., 3/2/92
OG311  HGP1545.00 0.9600 ! PROT EMB 11/21/89 methanol vib fit; og 
tested on MeOH EtOH,...

ANGLES
OG311  CG331  HGA3 45.90108.89 ! PROT MeOH, EMB, 10/10/89
HGA3   CG331  HGA3 35.50108.405.40   1.80200 ! PROT alkane update, 
adm jr., 3/2/92
CG331  OG311  HGP1 57.50106.00 ! Team Sugar, HCP1M OC311M CC331M; 
unchanged

DIHEDRALS
HGA3   CG331  OG311  HGP1   0.1800  3 0.00 ! og methanol

IMPROPERS

END
RETURN


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Re: [gmx-users] g_dih calculation doubt

2012-12-26 Thread Mark Abraham
Unfortunately, g_dih was written before 1997 and its documentation is very
poor. It does not actually read the connectivity in the .tpr file, nor does
it attempt to infer connectivity other than for some protein backbone
dihedrals. For some reason, it thinks it finds some for your topology, but
can't find parameters for them (wherever it imagines it should find them).

As far as I can see, its functionality is entirely duplicated by g_angle,
so g_dih will probably be removed in 4.6. I suggest you use g_angle for
whatever you are trying to do.

Mark

On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 12/26/12 12:57 AM, Kavyashree M wrote:

 Dear users,
 I was using g_dih to find the phi/psi transitions of a protein
 along the trajectory using the following command -
 g_dih -f a.xtc -s a.tpr -o dihout.out -b x -e y -w
 When it started running it indicated many of the following lines
 Dihedral around 7793,7804 not found in topology. Using mult=3
 what does it mean..? they are not nearby atoms so as to calculate
 dihedral angle..


 Clearly g_dih thinks they are.  Refer to your coordinate or topology files
 to find out what those atoms are.  A difference of only 11 atoms is not
 very large.  They could indeed be in the same residue or in a disulfide.


  At the end it gave the dihedral transitions of each residue along the
 trajectory - it displayed -
 Calculated all dihedrals, now analysing...
 and then it took backup of all residue transitions creating new
 xvg files of the same residues. I compared the two files ie, the
 backup file and the corresponding new file there was drastic differences
 why is there difference between these two files although both are
 plots of degrees v/s time.


 Backup files are generated after multiple invocations of a command.
  Apparently whatever you ran multiple times produced different output.


  One more question is some times it shows dihedral values of  more
 than 360.. sometimes 1000 etc.. does it mean that the bond has undergone
 rotation so many times.. I am sorry  I am not getting this. Also the file
 that it generates does not say which is phi/psi specifically. So I suppose
 2nd column is phi and 3rd column is psi? it it right?


 You'll have to provide snippets of your output, with complete .xvg header
 information here.  Most files are very well labeled so as to make the
 columns obvious.

 -Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] how to convert CGenFF into .itp file?

2012-12-26 Thread David van der Spoel

On 2012-12-26 20:29, Albert wrote:

On 12/26/2012 07:53 PM, David van der Spoel wrote:

Hey, it's open source. Let us know how it goes




Sorry what I meant was: If you make a better version of the 
charmm2gromacs script, then please upload it to the website.


Cheers, David.

you can simple create an account and login

https://www.paramchem.org/

after your login, click upload molecule in left panel. Now you will
see the option:

Include parameters that are already in CGenFF

tick this option and the server will generate a full version of ligand
topology  which could be  independent from the offline CGenFF. Now what
we need is just improve the script and convert it into a single .itp
file into Gromacs. I think this would be the best solution.

Here is an example output for Methanol molecule from CGenFF


--example--


* Toppar stream file generated by
* CHARMM General Force Field (CGenFF) program version 0.9.6 beta
* For use with CGenFF version 2b7
*

read rtf card append
* Topologies generated by
* CHARMM General Force Field (CGenFF) program version 0.9.6 beta
*
36 1

! penalty is the highest penalty score of the associated parameters.
! Penalties lower than 10 indicate the analogy is fair; penalties
between 10
! and 50 mean some basic validation is recommended; penalties higher than
! 50 indicate poor analogy and mandate extensive validation/optimization.

RESI 8870.000 ! param penalty=   0.000 ; charge penalty=
0.000
GROUP! CHARGE   CH_PENALTY
ATOM O  OG311  -0.651 !0.000
ATOM C  CG331  -0.039 !0.000
ATOM H1 HGA30.090 !0.000
ATOM H2 HGA30.090 !0.000
ATOM H3 HGA30.090 !0.000
ATOM H4 HGP10.420 !0.000

BOND OC
BOND OH4
BOND CH1
BOND CH2
BOND CH3

END

read param card flex append
* Parameters generated by analogy by
* CHARMM General Force Field (CGenFF) program version 0.9.6 beta
*

! Penalties lower than 10 indicate the analogy is fair; penalties
between 10
! and 50 mean some basic validation is recommended; penalties higher than
! 50 indicate poor analogy and mandate extensive validation/optimization.

BONDS
CG331  OG311   428.00 1.4200 ! PROT methanol vib fit EMB 11/21/89
CG331  HGA3322.00 1.1110 ! PROT alkane update, adm jr., 3/2/92
OG311  HGP1545.00 0.9600 ! PROT EMB 11/21/89 methanol vib fit;
og tested on MeOH EtOH,...

ANGLES
OG311  CG331  HGA3 45.90108.89 ! PROT MeOH, EMB, 10/10/89
HGA3   CG331  HGA3 35.50108.405.40   1.80200 ! PROT alkane
update, adm jr., 3/2/92
CG331  OG311  HGP1 57.50106.00 ! Team Sugar, HCP1M OC311M
CC331M; unchanged

DIHEDRALS
HGA3   CG331  OG311  HGP1   0.1800  3 0.00 ! og methanol

IMPROPERS

END
RETURN





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[gmx-users] Dangling bond at terminal end of RNA rosetta model

2012-12-26 Thread Gert Peters

Hi everybody,

Im trying to use GROMACS for MD of a RNA model generated by Rosetta 
(FARFAR). As a test I try processing a modelledpdb file. When I prepare 
thetopology files (pdb2gmx -f test.pdb -ff amber99 -ignh

) from pdb I encounter following output :

Sorting it all out...
Opening force field file 
/usr/local/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/amber99.ff/aminoacids.hdb
Opening force field file 
/usr/local/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/amber99.ff/dna.hdb
Opening force field file 
/usr/local/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/amber99.ff/rna.hdb
Opening force field file 
/usr/local/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/amber99.ff/aminoacids.n.tdb
Opening force field file 
/usr/local/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/amber99.ff/aminoacids.c.tdb


Back Off! I just backed up topol.top to ./#topol.top.12#
Processing chain 1 'A' (165 atoms, 8 residues)
Identified residue rG1 as a starting terminus.
Identified residue rC8 as a ending terminus.
8 out of 8 lines of specbond.dat converted successfully

---
Program pdb2gmx, VERSION 4.5.5
Source code file: pdb2top.c, line: 1031

Fatal error:
There is a dangling bond at at least one of the terminal ends and the 
force field does not provide terminal entries or files. Edit a .n.tdb 
and/or .c.tdb file.

For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the GROMACS
website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
---


When processing the corresponding structure from the pdb database 
(2IXZ)all files are generated as expected. I tried to compare the de 
novo model with the experimentally determined one but I cant find the 
problem(all terminal residues seem to have the same amountof atoms when 
ignoring the hydrogen atoms). I dont have a clue where to look next.


Anyone got a clueto solve this issue?

Thanks in advance,

Kind regards,
Gert
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Re: [gmx-users] Convert .psf to .top

2012-12-26 Thread Kieu Thu Nguyen
Thank Francesco :-)


On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 11:31 PM, francesco oteri francesco.ot...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi,
 in vmd there is a package called topotools (
 https://sites.google.com/site/akohlmey/software/topotools).
 This package has the magic command writegmxtop.
 Be carefull 'cause the created .top might miss some information (tipically
 angles and dihedrals)
 so I advice you to carefully check the .top file.

 Francesco


 2012/12/26 Kieu Thu Nguyen kieuthu2...@gmail.com

  Dear All,
 
  Are there any method that can convert CHARMM PSF files to Gromacs
 topology
  files ?
 
  Thank for any help !
  Best regards,
 
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Re: [gmx-users] merge .gro, .top files

2012-12-26 Thread Kieu Thu Nguyen
Do you mean that i have to add the line sed '2s/^.*$/'$(wc -l file.gro)'/'
file.gro  out.gro into the old script merge.py ?


On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 6:39 PM, Tsjerk Wassenaar tsje...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi KT,

 To update the number of atoms in a merged .gro file, assuming a single
 frame and no empty lines after the box definition, you have to replace the
 second line with the number of lines minus three:

 sed '2s/^.*$/'$(wc -l file.gro)'/' file.gro  out.gro

 Cheers,

 Tsjerk

 On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 7:33 AM, Kieu Thu Nguyen kieuthu2...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  But i don't see file gromacs_topology_merger.py in the web Vedat gave
 me.
 
  Tsjerk, can you give me the script for updating the number of atoms ? I
  searched in google, but i have not found it yet. It's really my stupid
  question, but i don't know why.
 
  Thanks !
  Best regards,
 
  KT
 
 
  On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Kieu Thu Nguyen kieuthu2...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   thank all so much :-)
  
   KT
  
   On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Vedat Durmaz dur...@zib.de wrote:
  
   there's also an executable topology merger available written in python
   called gromacs_topology_merger.py as part of a the software package
   ZIBMolPy designed for conformational analysis at
  
   https://github.com/CMD-at-ZIB/**ZIBMolPy
  https://github.com/CMD-at-ZIB/ZIBMolPy
  
   given (in the same directory) a topology file topol.top (argument 1)
   and two (or more) itp files mol1.itp and mol2.itp included in the
  top
   file, the tool writes out a new topology file (argument 2) merging the
   first two molecules from the include sequence of which itp files are
  given.
  
   note: the number of molecules to be merged should be 1 in the [
  molecules
   ] section. if one of them is meant to appear multiple times in the
  merged
   topology, the process needs to be repeated accordingly.
  
   vedat
  
  
   Am 18.12.2012 09:38, schrieb Erik Marklund:
  
   18 dec 2012 kl. 09.30 skrev Tsjerk Wassenaar:
  
   Hi KT,
  
   If you mean concatenating frames in .gro files, you can use trjcat
 or
   just
   cat. If you mean merging the coordinates, it's a wee bit more
   complicated.
   Since you also ask for top files, I guess that's the case. Here's a
   snippet
   of python code that will do the trick:
  
   #!/usr/bin/env python
  
   import sys
  
   f = [open(i).readlines() for i in sys.argv[1:]]
   print Merged gro file\n%5d % (sum([len(i) for i in f]) - 3*len(f))
   print .join([.join(i[2:-1]) for i in f]),
   print f[0][-1]
  
  
   For the top files, it is necessary to ensure all the moleculetypes
 are
   #included, and that the [ molecules ] listing under [ system ] has
 the
   right number and order of the molecules in the merged gro file.
  There's
   no
   tool for that that I know of.
  
   In principle you could use grompp for checking that. It would print
 out
   a heap of warinngs/notes/errors if structure file and topology don't
  match.
  
   Erik
  
   Cheers,
  
   Tsjerk
  
  
   On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 6:18 AM, Kieu Thu Nguyen 
  kieuthu2...@gmail.com
   wrote:
  
   Dear All,
  
   I don't know which tools used to merge 2 files .gro, 2 files .top ?
   Can i use trjcat ?
  
   Thanks !
   KT
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Re: [gmx-users] Dangling bond at terminal end of RNA rosetta model

2012-12-26 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 12/26/12 6:32 PM, Gert Peters wrote:

Hi everybody,

Im trying to use GROMACS for MD of a RNA model generated by Rosetta (FARFAR).
As a test I try processing a modelledpdb file. When I prepare thetopology
files (pdb2gmx -f test.pdb -ff amber99 -ignh ) from pdb I encounter following
output :

Sorting it all out... Opening force field file
/usr/local/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/amber99.ff/aminoacids.hdb Opening force
field file /usr/local/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/amber99.ff/dna.hdb Opening
force field file /usr/local/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/amber99.ff/rna.hdb
Opening force field file
/usr/local/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/amber99.ff/aminoacids.n.tdb Opening
force field file
/usr/local/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/amber99.ff/aminoacids.c.tdb

Back Off! I just backed up topol.top to ./#topol.top.12# Processing chain 1
'A' (165 atoms, 8 residues) Identified residue rG1 as a starting terminus.
Identified residue rC8 as a ending terminus. 8 out of 8 lines of specbond.dat
converted successfully

--- Program pdb2gmx,
VERSION 4.5.5 Source code file: pdb2top.c, line: 1031

Fatal error: There is a dangling bond at at least one of the terminal ends
and the force field does not provide terminal entries or files. Edit a .n.tdb
and/or .c.tdb file. For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please
check the GROMACS website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
---


When processing the corresponding structure from the pdb database (2IXZ)all
files are generated as expected. I tried to compare the de novo model with
the experimentally determined one but I cant find the problem(all terminal
residues seem to have the same amountof atoms when ignoring the hydrogen
atoms). I dont have a clue where to look next.

Anyone got a clueto solve this issue?



The most common issue is residue name.  Terminal nucleic acids are named, e.g., 
RG5 to indicate 5' terminus.  Similarly, RG is an internal residue and RG3 is a 
3' terminal residue.


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Re: [gmx-users] merge .gro, .top files

2012-12-26 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 12/26/12 7:46 PM, Kieu Thu Nguyen wrote:

Do you mean that i have to add the line sed '2s/^.*$/'$(wc -l file.gro)'/'
file.gro  out.gro into the old script merge.py ?



sed is a standard *nix command, issued from the command line.

-Justin



On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 6:39 PM, Tsjerk Wassenaar tsje...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi KT,

To update the number of atoms in a merged .gro file, assuming a single
frame and no empty lines after the box definition, you have to replace the
second line with the number of lines minus three:

sed '2s/^.*$/'$(wc -l file.gro)'/' file.gro  out.gro

Cheers,

Tsjerk

On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 7:33 AM, Kieu Thu Nguyen kieuthu2...@gmail.com

wrote:



But i don't see file gromacs_topology_merger.py in the web Vedat gave

me.


Tsjerk, can you give me the script for updating the number of atoms ? I
searched in google, but i have not found it yet. It's really my stupid
question, but i don't know why.

Thanks !
Best regards,

KT


On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Kieu Thu Nguyen kieuthu2...@gmail.com

wrote:



thank all so much :-)

KT

On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Vedat Durmaz dur...@zib.de wrote:


there's also an executable topology merger available written in python
called gromacs_topology_merger.py as part of a the software package
ZIBMolPy designed for conformational analysis at

https://github.com/CMD-at-ZIB/**ZIBMolPy

https://github.com/CMD-at-ZIB/ZIBMolPy


given (in the same directory) a topology file topol.top (argument 1)
and two (or more) itp files mol1.itp and mol2.itp included in the

top

file, the tool writes out a new topology file (argument 2) merging the
first two molecules from the include sequence of which itp files are

given.


note: the number of molecules to be merged should be 1 in the [

molecules

] section. if one of them is meant to appear multiple times in the

merged

topology, the process needs to be repeated accordingly.

vedat


Am 18.12.2012 09:38, schrieb Erik Marklund:

18 dec 2012 kl. 09.30 skrev Tsjerk Wassenaar:


Hi KT,


If you mean concatenating frames in .gro files, you can use trjcat

or

just
cat. If you mean merging the coordinates, it's a wee bit more
complicated.
Since you also ask for top files, I guess that's the case. Here's a
snippet
of python code that will do the trick:

#!/usr/bin/env python

import sys

f = [open(i).readlines() for i in sys.argv[1:]]
print Merged gro file\n%5d % (sum([len(i) for i in f]) - 3*len(f))
print .join([.join(i[2:-1]) for i in f]),
print f[0][-1]


For the top files, it is necessary to ensure all the moleculetypes

are

#included, and that the [ molecules ] listing under [ system ] has

the

right number and order of the molecules in the merged gro file.

There's

no
tool for that that I know of.


In principle you could use grompp for checking that. It would print

out

a heap of warinngs/notes/errors if structure file and topology don't

match.


Erik

Cheers,


Tsjerk


On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 6:18 AM, Kieu Thu Nguyen 

kieuthu2...@gmail.com

wrote:


Dear All,


I don't know which tools used to merge 2 files .gro, 2 files .top ?
Can i use trjcat ?

Thanks !
KT
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Re: [gmx-users] Dangling bond at terminal end of RNA rosetta model

2012-12-26 Thread Mark Abraham
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 12:32 AM, Gert Peters gert.pet...@ugent.be wrote:

 Hi everybody,

 Im trying to use GROMACS for MD of a RNA model generated by Rosetta
 (FARFAR). As a test I try processing a modelledpdb file. When I prepare
 thetopology files (pdb2gmx -f test.pdb -ff amber99 -ignh
 ) from pdb I encounter following output :

 Sorting it all out...
 Opening force field file /usr/local/gromacs/share/**
 gromacs/top/amber99.ff/**aminoacids.hdb
 Opening force field file /usr/local/gromacs/share/**
 gromacs/top/amber99.ff/dna.hdb
 Opening force field file /usr/local/gromacs/share/**
 gromacs/top/amber99.ff/rna.hdb
 Opening force field file /usr/local/gromacs/share/**
 gromacs/top/amber99.ff/**aminoacids.n.tdb
 Opening force field file /usr/local/gromacs/share/**
 gromacs/top/amber99.ff/**aminoacids.c.tdb

 Back Off! I just backed up topol.top to ./#topol.top.12#
 Processing chain 1 'A' (165 atoms, 8 residues)
 Identified residue rG1 as a starting terminus.
 Identified residue rC8 as a ending terminus.
 8 out of 8 lines of specbond.dat converted successfully

 --**-
 Program pdb2gmx, VERSION 4.5.5
 Source code file: pdb2top.c, line: 1031

 Fatal error:
 There is a dangling bond at at least one of the terminal ends and the
 force field does not provide terminal entries or files. Edit a .n.tdb
 and/or .c.tdb file.
 For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the GROMACS
 website at 
 http://www.gromacs.org/**Documentation/Errorshttp://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
 --**-

 When processing the corresponding structure from the pdb database
 (2IXZ)all files are generated as expected. I tried to compare the de novo
 model with the experimentally determined one but I cant find the
 problem(all terminal residues seem to have the same amountof atoms when
 ignoring the hydrogen atoms). I dont have a clue where to look next.


AMBER parameterizes the terminal residues differently from the non-terminal
residues. See rna.rtp. That requires that the terminal residues have a
different residue name that pdb2gmx can match accordingly. With the
information we have, nobody can say why one of your input files works and
the other doesn't.

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Re: [gmx-users] g_dih calculation doubt

2012-12-26 Thread Kavyashree M
Thanks both of you for the suggestions.
Regarding the backup files - I did not run the command
multiple times.

Thank you
kavya

On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 1:01 AM, Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.comwrote:

 Unfortunately, g_dih was written before 1997 and its documentation is very
 poor. It does not actually read the connectivity in the .tpr file, nor does
 it attempt to infer connectivity other than for some protein backbone
 dihedrals. For some reason, it thinks it finds some for your topology, but
 can't find parameters for them (wherever it imagines it should find them).

 As far as I can see, its functionality is entirely duplicated by g_angle,
 so g_dih will probably be removed in 4.6. I suggest you use g_angle for
 whatever you are trying to do.

 Mark

 On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:

 
 
  On 12/26/12 12:57 AM, Kavyashree M wrote:
 
  Dear users,
  I was using g_dih to find the phi/psi transitions of a protein
  along the trajectory using the following command -
  g_dih -f a.xtc -s a.tpr -o dihout.out -b x -e y -w
  When it started running it indicated many of the following lines
  Dihedral around 7793,7804 not found in topology. Using mult=3
  what does it mean..? they are not nearby atoms so as to calculate
  dihedral angle..
 
 
  Clearly g_dih thinks they are.  Refer to your coordinate or topology
 files
  to find out what those atoms are.  A difference of only 11 atoms is not
  very large.  They could indeed be in the same residue or in a disulfide.
 
 
   At the end it gave the dihedral transitions of each residue along the
  trajectory - it displayed -
  Calculated all dihedrals, now analysing...
  and then it took backup of all residue transitions creating new
  xvg files of the same residues. I compared the two files ie, the
  backup file and the corresponding new file there was drastic differences
  why is there difference between these two files although both are
  plots of degrees v/s time.
 
 
  Backup files are generated after multiple invocations of a command.
   Apparently whatever you ran multiple times produced different output.
 
 
   One more question is some times it shows dihedral values of  more
  than 360.. sometimes 1000 etc.. does it mean that the bond has undergone
  rotation so many times.. I am sorry  I am not getting this. Also the
 file
  that it generates does not say which is phi/psi specifically. So I
 suppose
  2nd column is phi and 3rd column is psi? it it right?
 
 
  You'll have to provide snippets of your output, with complete .xvg header
  information here.  Most files are very well labeled so as to make the
  columns obvious.
 
  -Justin
 
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