Re: [gmx-users] Viscosity

2013-06-01 Thread David van der Spoel

On 2013-06-01 02:24, Marcelo Vanean wrote:

Hello to everyone. In version 4.5.5, calculating the viscosity with the
command g_energy -vis, the generated files (eviscoi.xvg, eviscoi.xvg and
visco.xvg) are inconsistent. The file evisco.xvg, for example, gives a
value of zero for viscosity using the Einstein relation. Another question
in 4.0.7, the file eviscoi.xvg is approximately a straight line, whereas in
version 4.5.5 not. Why the Gromacs 4.0.7 gives the result in this way?
Evidently, there is an inconsistency in these different results. Help me,
please.

Please give some details about your system and how you did the analysis. 
Did you use the same energy file with the different gromacs versions? In 
that case they should give the same result.


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Re: [gmx-users] OPLSAA.ff

2013-06-01 Thread Mark Abraham
For example, C* is used in ffbonded.itp, which can be looked up in
ffnonbonded as opls_500, which atomtypes.atp reveals as a Trp gamma carbon.

Mark


On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 2:27 AM, Broadbent, Richard 
richard.broadben...@imperial.ac.uk wrote:

 The conversion is in ffnonbonded.itp. However, unless you plan to modify
 the forcefield you shouldn't need this.

 Richard

 On 01/06/2013 00:57, Hari Pandey hariche...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Dear Gromacs users,
 
 I am a new user and I have some questions
  I confused about indexing.  in atomtypes.atp  clearly  we can know the
 index is for what kind of atom but  in ffbondedtype.itp there is
 different kind of the indexing  so I confused how do i pathch the force
 field .
 Some are obvious (OH, is oxygen bonden to hydrogen and HO is a hydrogen
 bonded to oxygen)
 but definitively I dont know what type of bond makes the carbon atoms like
 C_2, C_3 or C *
 Can somebody help me what represents in ffbonded.atp.
 for example : opls_083  means S in RSR , opls_091  means CH2 in RCH2SR
 but what type of atoms are C*, C_2, C_3 ,  CT, CM, CS, LP, CT_2, CT_3,
 CW, NB etc.
 
 
 could you please provide me idea or list for that if somebody have.
 Thanks
 
 
 In Oplsaa.ff the indexing is  as follows :
 
 atomtypes.atp
 
 
 opls_0791.00800  ; H(O) ALCOHOLS JPC,90,1276 (1986)
  opls_080   15.03500  ; CH3 IN METHANOL   JPC,90,1276 (1986)
  opls_081   14.02700  ; CH2 IN ETHANOLJPC,90,1276 (1986)
  opls_082   32.06000  ; S   IN H2SJPC,90,6379 (1986)
  opls_083   32.06000  ; S   IN RSHJPC,90,6379 (1986)
  opls_084   32.06000  ; S   IN RSRJPC,90,6379 (1986)
  opls_085   32.06000  ; S   IN RSSR   JPC,90,6379 (1986)
  opls_0861.00800  ; H   IN H2SJPC,90,6379 (1986)
  opls_0871.00800  ; H(S) IN RSH   JPC,90,6379 (1986)
  opls_088   15.03500  ; CH3 IN CH3SH  JPC,90,6379 (1986)
  opls_089   14.02700  ; CH2 IN CH3CH2SH   JPC,90,6379 (1986)
  opls_090   15.03500  ; CH3 IN CH3SR  JPC,90,6379 (1986)
  opls_091   14.02700  ; CH2 IN RCH2SR JPC,90,6379 (1986
 
 The ffbonded.itp is as follows ; Some esoteric OPLS atomtypes are not
 freely available (or depreciated).
 ; Interaction types involving these have been commented out. [ bondtypes ]
 ; ij  func   b0  kb OWHW  10.09572   502080.0
   ; For TIP4F Water - wlj 1/98 OWLP  10.01750   753120.0   ;
 -idem- C*HC  10.10800   284512.0   ; C C3  1
   0.15220   265265.6   ; END C_2   C3  10.15220   265265.6   ;
 END C_3   C3  10.15220   265265.6   ; END C CA  1
 0.14900   334720.0   ; wlj 8/97 C_2   CA  10.14900   334720.0   ;
 wlj 8/97 C_3   CA  10.14900   334720.0   ; wlj 8/97 C CB
 10.14190   374049.6   ; GUA C_2   CB  10.14190   374049.6   ;
 GUA C_3   CB  10.14190   374049.6   ; GUA C CM  1
 0.14440   343088.0   ; THY C_2   CM  10.14440   343088.0   ; THY
 C_3   CM  10.14440   343088.0   ; THY C CS  10.14900
  334720.0   ; C_2   CS  10.14900   334720.0   ; C_3   CS  1
  0.14900   334720.0   ; C CT  10.15220   265265.6   ; C_2
 CT  10.15220
  265265.6   ; C_3   CT  10.15220   265265.6   ; C CT_21
  0.15220   265265.6   ; AA Calpha C_3   CT_210.15220   265265.6
 ; AA C-term NOON  10.12250   460240.0   ; wlj nitro CSCW
 10.13670   456892.8   ; wj/nm CSCS  10.14240
 392459.2   ; -idem- CSCB  10.14240   392459.2   ; -idem- CS
  HA  10.10800   307105.6   ; -idem- CUNB  10.13200
 343088.0   ; -idem- CUCA  10.14210   392459.2   ; -idem- CU
  HA  10.10800   307105.6   ; -idem- NANB  10.13490
 334720.0   ; -idem- OSNB  10.13990   386601.6   ; -idem- OS
  CR  10.13570   386601.6   ; -idem- C3C3  10.15260
 217568.0   ; Ethane C!C!  10.14600   322168.0   ; wlj C!
 CS  10.14600   322168.0   ; wlj
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[gmx-users] cation-pi interaction

2013-06-01 Thread larif sofiene
Greeting
I'm trying to find the angle between a cation and a benzene cycle from a MD
trajectory. I'm really confused  is there a tool for such calculations ?
because i must find angle using a plan passing by the center of the cycle
and vector (from cation to the mass center of the benzene cycle).
How can i do it please ?.
thanks in advance.
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Re: [gmx-users] Vritual Sites and simulation time-step

2013-06-01 Thread Mark Abraham
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 12:17 PM, James Starlight jmsstarli...@gmail.comwrote:

 Mark,

 thanks for advise. As I understood for the usage of virtual sites in
 typical protein-water system I should
 (1) define all hydrogens as the virtual atoms  (2) increase  atom masses of
 the hydrogens presented in the water,


Not applicable if you are using a rigid water model.


 COOH NH2 OH and SH as well as polar
 groups (3) make virtual sites for the angles and dihedrals of peptide bond
 as well as sidechains.

 Also I've noticed that (1) and (2) can be done with the pdb2gmx with
 options  -vsite and -heavyh respectfully. From this point its not quite
 clear for me
 (1) should I make some corrections in topology for dihedrals? In the manual
 6.7 I've found some suggestions for the dihedrals of the different
 functional groups.


Generally, use what pdb2gmx will generate and don't worry further. I have
heard the thought expressed that the aromatic constructions are not good in
practice, but I don't know any details.


 (2) should I define VSITES for solvent  molecules filled into the box by
 the genbox ?
 (3) As I understood the inclusion of the VSITES for hydrogens would allow
 me to increase timestep up to 5-8fs. What possible  negative side-effects
 of the inclusion of VSITES might occur in simulation ?


The vsites are generally fine. See paper referenced there for some details.

Mark



 James

 2013/5/30 Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.com

  Manual 6.7?
 
 
  On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 7:05 AM, James Starlight jmsstarli...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   Dear Gromacs users!
  
   In some discussions I've noticed that people told about usage of
 virtual
   sites which allow to increase time step of the simulation of such
  systems.
   From manual and tutorial its not quite understand for me how with
   inclusion
   of such dummy atoms (which can be used to reduce number of atoms of the
   some solvent-like molecule or to mimic  electron pairs in the water for
   instance)  influence on time-step can be achieved ?
  
  
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Re: [gmx-users] Vritual Sites and simulation time-step

2013-06-01 Thread Mark Abraham
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 12:31 PM, James Starlight jmsstarli...@gmail.comwrote:

 Also some questions about corrections in the mdp besides the time-step file
 which should be included with the VS.

 1) What constrains algorithm should I use ?
 typically I use
 ; Bond parameters
 constraint_algorithm = lincs; holonomic constraints
 constraints = all-bonds ; all bonds (even heavy atom-H bonds)
 constrained
 lincs_iter  = 1 ; accuracy of LINCS
 lincs_order = 4 ; also related to accuracy


At high parallelization, all-bonds becomes limiting, which can be mitigated
with changed lincs parameters. See manual.

2) Should I vary tau_t constant assuming that I use SD integrator as the
 thermostat ( I'm using 2 ps ) ?


Don't know.

Mark



 2013/5/30 James Starlight jmsstarli...@gmail.com

  Mark,
 
  thanks for advise. As I understood for the usage of virtual sites in
  typical protein-water system I should
  (1) define all hydrogens as the virtual atoms  (2) increase  atom masses
  of the hydrogens presented in the water, COOH NH2 OH and SH as well as
  polar groups (3) make virtual sites for the angles and dihedrals of
 peptide
  bond as well as sidechains.
 
  Also I've noticed that (1) and (2) can be done with the pdb2gmx with
  options  -vsite and -heavyh respectfully. From this point its not quite
  clear for me
  (1) should I make some corrections in topology for dihedrals? In the
  manual 6.7 I've found some suggestions for the dihedrals of the different
  functional groups.
  (2) should I define VSITES for solvent  molecules filled into the box by
  the genbox ?
  (3) As I understood the inclusion of the VSITES for hydrogens would allow
  me to increase timestep up to 5-8fs. What possible  negative side-effects
  of the inclusion of VSITES might occur in simulation ?
 
  James
 
 
  2013/5/30 Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.com
 
  Manual 6.7?
 
 
  On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 7:05 AM, James Starlight 
 jmsstarli...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   Dear Gromacs users!
  
   In some discussions I've noticed that people told about usage of
 virtual
   sites which allow to increase time step of the simulation of such
  systems.
   From manual and tutorial its not quite understand for me how with
   inclusion
   of such dummy atoms (which can be used to reduce number of atoms of
 the
   some solvent-like molecule or to mimic  electron pairs in the water
 for
   instance)  influence on time-step can be achieved ?
  
  
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Re: [gmx-users] Vritual Sites and simulation time-step

2013-06-01 Thread Mark Abraham
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 5:19 PM, James Starlight jmsstarli...@gmail.comwrote:

 3) Also I've already performed small simulation with the time step 5 fs
 (defining virtual sites by means of pdb2gmx -vsites  and introducing heavy
 hydrogens. I've not observed any errors during my simulation. When I've
 tried to increase dt up to 7 fs I've obtained warnings according to that I
 should increase tau_p (from 2 ps with Parinello coupling). How tau_p is
 relevant to the timestep and when I could obtain more information about
 such constants ? E.g if i increase tau_p doest it means that I provide
 weaker coupling to the system with pressure bath ? (higher constant- higher
 relaxation times )


You're integrating forces calculated at one instant and assuming they are
applicable over a finite time period. Obviously this is an approximation,
and it gets worse with longer time step. The worse approximation means the
sampling is from a shadow Hamiltonian that is even further from the real
one. P-R is not very stable if the sampling is not from equilibrium, so
probably the change suggested in the warning helps keep P-R working.

The absence of the simulation crashing is not a suitable proxy for assuming
there are no problems. You should compare observables with those from
conservative parameter sets and see whether differences exist.

Mark
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[gmx-users] nvt T coupling group problem

2013-06-01 Thread neshat haq
Hello everyone
I have a protein with covalently attached prosthetic group.
Now while trying use thermostat I grouped the protein and prosthetic
group though an index file asProtein_pro
my Tc group is astc-grps= Protein_pro Non-Protein
Now issuing the grompp for nvt step, following error is appearing

Atom 1076 in multiple T-Coupling groups (1 and 2)
This is very obvious that the prosthetic group will be in nonprotein index.
The how to couple the prosthetic group and protein together with non
protein.
Or is it fine to couple a part of protein (prostheic group) with nonprotein.
Any suggestion will be highly regarded.


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Re: [gmx-users] Re: umbrella sampling for two polymer interaction

2013-06-01 Thread gromacs query
Dear Thomas,
 In AMBER I remember I did once methane-methane interaction, just
distance based umbrella sampling. But there I did not
  provide any direction. So should it not be N N N in Gromacs if I want
to allow them freely move in xyz.

Sorry am wrong that should be Y Y Y in Gromcacs! for such case

regards,


On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 10:03 PM, gromacs query gromacsqu...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dear Thomas,

 Thanks a lot again for great reply. Please clarify this also,

  If one uses only 'Y N N' B would only move along the x-axis due to the
 pull, but could move freely in the yz-plane
 You never want to use the pull-code and 'pull_dim = N N N'
 This would mean that there is no force acting between your two groups.
 Then one could have skipped using the pull-code...

 So keeping Y N N will allow free movement in yz plane. So if I want A B to
 move freely in xyz but just keep them separated by some distance with
 spring const (just like two balloons tied to each other flying in air).
 Sorry confused. In AMBER I remember I did once methane-methane
 interaction, just distance based umbrella sampling. But there I did not
 provide any direction. So should it not be N N N in Gromacs if I want to
 allow them freely move in xyz.

 thanks,



 On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Thomas Schlesier schl...@uni-mainz.dewrote:

 For comments to your questions see below.

 More general: (somewhat longer than i wanted. Hope you find some answers
 here)

 Imagine two interacting particles A and B which are alinged to the
 x-axis. We take A as the reference group, B as pulled group and put the
 origin of the umbrella potential on top of B (pull_start=yes).
 Simulation starts - A and B moves.
 Pull-code step: From A we calculate the new position of the umbrella
 potential, this is unequal to B, since B moved and our reference point move.
 Now we have a force acting on B, 'pull_dim' controls in which directions
 the force acts. With 'Y Y Y' B is pulled towards the origin of the umbrella
 potential (and with this to the position it should have relative to A).
 If one uses only 'Y N N' B would only move along the x-axis due to the
 pull, but could move freely in the yz-plane. In the end one would get a
 structure where A and B have the right distance in the x-axis but are miles
 away from each other in the yz-plane.

 Now imagine we pull B away from A. Since MD simulations normally separete
 the movement of the center of mass of the system, it would look like A and
 B would move away from a middle point.

 (Interchanging A and B should give the same results).


 Think in your case (doing umbrella sampling) the mdp-file you suggested
 would be most appropiate (with 'pull_start=yes' and 'pull_ngroups=1'). This
 gives you a potential which fixes the distance between the two proteins.
 One thing you should be aware is that if you restrain the distance in 3d,
 you have to account for entropic effects (see also the GROMACS manual). If
 you restrain the system only in one direction, these don't arise. Think
 this is the reason why one sees some work with umbrella sampling were the
 restraint works only in one direction.


 Am 31.05.2013 17:20, schrieb gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org:

  Dear Thomas,

 Thanks a lot for your time and nice explanation. I was not able to get
 specially the pull_start flag but now its quite clear.

 I feel sorry, that should be pull_dim = N N N in my case. Also I will be
 much thankful if you please can help me to make understand following:


 STOP!!!
 You never want to use the pull-code and 'pull_dim = N N N'
 This would mean that there is no force acting between your two groups.
 Then one could have skipped using the pull-code...



 1)

 If you do a pulling simulation, there can be reason for chosing the

 groups (protein = reference , ligand = pulled group, since we want to
 pull
 it away)

 This indeed is correct but I am not able to get depth of this. I mean to
 say lets keep ligand as a reference and protein as pulled group then yes
 it
 sounds stupid but I am not able to provide a reason myself why we can not
 keep ligand as reference and pull protein rather !!


 Think this setup should also work. For some simple systems i imagine it
 should give identical results.
 For complex system i would also think so. But i can't comment on this
 with actual expirience. The dimer systems which i investigated were
 symmetric...





 2)

   3) And also what should be pull_ngroups because if there is no

  reference group then it should be 2

 

 Better use a reference group - pull_ngroups = 1

 You don't want to pull in absolute coordinates, when your system can
 rotate..

 I am not able to understand this part. Can you please provide some
 example
 so that it makes easier to understand this


 Imagine only a single protein which you want to unfold. In an equilibrium
 simulation the protein can freely rotate in the box. If we use the
 N-terminus as the reference group and the C-terminus a the pulled group,
 the 

Re: [gmx-users] nvt T coupling group problem

2013-06-01 Thread rajat desikan
If the rest of your system is just water and ions, couple them separately
into another group and include it in your .mdp file.


On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 2:23 PM, neshat haq neshat...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello everyone
 I have a protein with covalently attached prosthetic group.
 Now while trying use thermostat I grouped the protein and prosthetic
 group though an index file asProtein_pro
 my Tc group is astc-grps= Protein_pro Non-Protein
 Now issuing the grompp for nvt step, following error is appearing

 Atom 1076 in multiple T-Coupling groups (1 and 2)
 This is very obvious that the prosthetic group will be in nonprotein index.
 The how to couple the prosthetic group and protein together with non
 protein.
 Or is it fine to couple a part of protein (prostheic group) with
 nonprotein.
 Any suggestion will be highly regarded.


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 Neshatul Haque
 PhD, Dpt of Biotechnology
 university of hyderabad
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Re: [gmx-users] Vritual Sites and simulation time-step

2013-06-01 Thread James Starlight
Thanks for so detailed explanation!

I've also forced with the problem of barostat during simulation of my
membrane protein with N-H chains  ( see adjacent topic). I'll be also very
thankful for you suggestion in that case too.

James

2013/6/1 Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.com

 On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 5:19 PM, James Starlight jmsstarli...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  3) Also I've already performed small simulation with the time step 5 fs
  (defining virtual sites by means of pdb2gmx -vsites  and introducing
 heavy
  hydrogens. I've not observed any errors during my simulation. When I've
  tried to increase dt up to 7 fs I've obtained warnings according to that
 I
  should increase tau_p (from 2 ps with Parinello coupling). How tau_p is
  relevant to the timestep and when I could obtain more information about
  such constants ? E.g if i increase tau_p doest it means that I provide
  weaker coupling to the system with pressure bath ? (higher constant-
 higher
  relaxation times )
 

 You're integrating forces calculated at one instant and assuming they are
 applicable over a finite time period. Obviously this is an approximation,
 and it gets worse with longer time step. The worse approximation means the
 sampling is from a shadow Hamiltonian that is even further from the real
 one. P-R is not very stable if the sampling is not from equilibrium, so
 probably the change suggested in the warning helps keep P-R working.

 The absence of the simulation crashing is not a suitable proxy for assuming
 there are no problems. You should compare observables with those from
 conservative parameter sets and see whether differences exist.

 Mark
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[gmx-users] About Checkpoint error in gromacs 4.6

2013-06-01 Thread vidhya sankar
Dear Justin Thank you for your previuos reply
  I am 
using gromacs 4.6 AMD 8 core processor

When I run restart My run  from the Checkpoint file using the following error

./mdrun_d  -s CNTPEPRSOLNPT.tpr  -cpi CNTPEPRSOLNPT_prev.cpt  -v -nt 8 -deffnm 
CNTPEPRSOLNPT -append



The original run wrote a file called 'CNTPEPRSOLNPT.trr' which is larger than 2 
GB, but mdrun did not support large file offsets. Can not append. Run mdrun 
with -noappend

How to solve this error?
Thnaks In ADVANCE                                     

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2013-06-01 Thread Marcelo Vanean
On 2013-06-01 02:24, Marcelo Vanean wrote:

 Hello to everyone. In version 4.5.5, calculating the viscosity with the
 command g_energy -vis, the generated files (eviscoi.xvg, eviscoi.xvg and
 visco.xvg) are inconsistent. The file evisco.xvg, for example, gives a
 value of zero for viscosity using the Einstein relation. Another question
 in 4.0.7, the file eviscoi.xvg is approximately a straight line, whereas in
 version 4.5.5 not. Why the Gromacs 4.0.7 gives the result in this way?
 Evidently, there is an inconsistency in these different results. Help me,
 please.


I used the same energy file (ener.edr) and I get this results:
http://help-gromacs.blogspot.com.br/. The files visco.xvg are equals.
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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Nose-Hover chains for membrane protein simulation

2013-06-01 Thread Michael Shirts
I can't think of any instance where nose-hoover chains provides an
advantage over nose-hoover in a large system -- all the demonstrations
of superiority are in model systems that are not particularly chaotic.
 As the system gets more chaotic, it matters less.

I would go with md, nose-hoover (w/o chains), and Parrinello-Rahman
with semiisotropic scaling.

On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 1:07 AM, James Starlight jmsstarli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Performing 5ns simulation after 2 ns equilibration in NPT ensemble (MTTK
 barostat 5ps coupling ) I've observed non-physical behaviour of my system
 with the constant drift of the protein molecule as the rigid body in the
 y-z plane

 Energy  Average   Err.Est.   RMSD  Tot-Drift
 ---
 Pressure   -760.137 --193.776218.059  (bar)


 From manual I've noticed that MMTK doest not support *semiisotropic
 scalling.  *Doest it means that with the Nose-hover chains and md-vv I
 should use only weaker coupling during productions runs (I cant use
 Parinello;s barostat with such options too)

 Thanks for help

 James



 2013/5/31 James Starlight jmsstarli...@gmail.com

 Dear Gromacs users!

 I'd like to perform simulation of the membrane protein in lipid-water
 system using Nose-Hover with chains.

 From manual I've found that with such thermostat I should use (1) md-vv
 integrator (2) MTTK  instead of Parinello's batostat  and (3) shake instead
 of LINCS.


 How doest such options compatible with the simulation of membrane proteins
 in general ? On what other options should I pay attention during simulation
 of membrane protein with NH chains ?



 Thanks for help,
 James

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Re: [gmx-users] About Checkpoint error in gromacs 4.6

2013-06-01 Thread Erik Marklund
How about running with -noappend?

On 1 Jun 2013, at 13:59, vidhya sankar scvsankar_...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Dear Justin Thank you for your previuos reply
   I am 
 using gromacs 4.6 AMD 8 core processor
 
 When I run restart My run  from the Checkpoint file using the following error
 
 ./mdrun_d  -s CNTPEPRSOLNPT.tpr  -cpi CNTPEPRSOLNPT_prev.cpt  -v -nt 8 
 -deffnm CNTPEPRSOLNPT -append
 
 
 
 The original run wrote a file called 'CNTPEPRSOLNPT.trr' which is larger than 
 2 GB, but mdrun did not support large file offsets. Can not append. Run mdrun 
 with -noappend
 
 How to solve this error?
 Thnaks In ADVANCE 
 
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[gmx-users] About Checkpoint error in gromacs 4.6

2013-06-01 Thread vidhya sankar


Respected Erik Marklund,
  Thank you for your reply When i run 
with a  

-noappend option from the 
checkpoint it runs well but Ooutput files are in Different Names The 
files Are not merged (are not Continues)

./mdrun_d  -s CNTPEPRSOLNPT.tpr  -cpi CNTPEPRSOLNPT_prev.cpt  -v -nt 8 -deffnm 
CNTPEPRSOLNPT -noappend
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Re: [gmx-users] About Checkpoint error in gromacs 4.6

2013-06-01 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 6/1/13 9:51 PM, vidhya sankar wrote:



Respected Erik Marklund,
   Thank you for your reply When i run 
with a

-noappend option from the
checkpoint it runs well but Ooutput files are in Different Names The
files Are not merged (are not Continues)



Precisely what -noappend is designed to do.  Either you append (and keep the old 
file names, adding new content to them) or you don't append (and get new files 
that take up from where the last interval of simulation time left off).


-Justin


./mdrun_d  -s CNTPEPRSOLNPT.tpr  -cpi CNTPEPRSOLNPT_prev.cpt  -v -nt 8 -deffnm 
CNTPEPRSOLNPT -noappend



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Re: [gmx-users] OPLS-AA to CHARMM conversion in gromacs ffnonbonded.itp

2013-06-01 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 5/31/13 1:18 PM, tarak karmakar wrote:

Dear All,

I have a little confusion with the non-bonding parameters conversion from
OPLS-AA to CHARMM in gromacs.
If I see the ffnonbonded.itp in both the cases I get the following numbers

OPLS-GROMACS

Sigma = 0.1644471 nm
Epsilon = (0.875044*4.184) = 3.66118 kJ/mol

.
CHARMM-GROMACS

Sigma = 0.21114299 nm
Epsilon = 0.06276 kJ/mol

Now, from the charmm27 parameters file I get
CHARMM27

Rmin/2 = 1.18500 Ang
Epsilon = -0.0150 kcal/mol

Converting these charmm parameters to gromacs formate I have to do
following conversions

Sigma = 2^(5/6) * (Rmin/2) = 2^(5/6) * 1.185 = 2.1114299 Ang = 0.2114299 nm
Epsilon = 0.0150 * 4.184 = 0.06276 kJ/mol


So, CHARMM (par_water_ions.prm) to charmm(ffnonbonded.itp) is fine. But the
problem I'm facing to convert the OPLS(ffnonbonded.itp) to
CHARMM(ffnonbonded.itp).



Why should they be the same?  They're different force fields, so they have 
different parameters.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] viscosity

2013-06-01 Thread David van der Spoel

On 2013-06-01 17:11, Marcelo Vanean wrote:

On 2013-06-01 02:24, Marcelo Vanean wrote:


Hello to everyone. In version 4.5.5, calculating the viscosity with the
command g_energy -vis, the generated files (eviscoi.xvg, eviscoi.xvg and
visco.xvg) are inconsistent. The file evisco.xvg, for example, gives a
value of zero for viscosity using the Einstein relation. Another question
in 4.0.7, the file eviscoi.xvg is approximately a straight line, whereas in
version 4.5.5 not. Why the Gromacs 4.0.7 gives the result in this way?
Evidently, there is an inconsistency in these different results. Help me,
please.



I used the same energy file (ener.edr) and I get this results:
http://help-gromacs.blogspot.com.br/. The files visco.xvg are equals.


Maybe you can post the energy file on that site as well.

Have you tried to compute the pressure autocorrelation (using g_energy)?

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[gmx-users] About Checkpoint error in gromacs 4.6

2013-06-01 Thread vidhya sankar


Deat Justin Thank you for your Previuos Reply,
                                                                     But 
When I Run tne the following command with Append Option 

mdrun_d  -s CNTPEPRSOLNPT.tpr  -cpi CNTPEPRSOLNPT_prev.cpt  -v -nt 8 -deffnm 
CNTPEPRSOLNPT -append



I Have got the following error
The original run wrote a file called 'CNTPEPRSOLNPT.trr' which is larger than 2 
GB, but mdrun did not support large file offsets. Can not append. Run mdrun 
with -noappend

How to Solve this ?
But When i Run With  -noappend option It run Well But it Produce different File 
Name files Are not merged (are not Continues)

Thanks In Advance

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[gmx-users] viscosity

2013-06-01 Thread Marcelo Vanean
*On 2013-06-01 17:11, Marcelo Vanean wrote:
*

 *On 2013-06-01 02:24, Marcelo Vanean wrote:

 *

 *Hello to everyone. In version 4.5.5, calculating the viscosity with the
 command g_energy -vis, the generated files (eviscoi.xvg, eviscoi.xvg and
 visco.xvg) are inconsistent. The file evisco.xvg, for example, gives a
 value of zero for viscosity using the Einstein relation. Another question
 in 4.0.7, the file eviscoi.xvg is approximately a straight line, whereas
 in
 version 4.5.5 not. Why the Gromacs 4.0.7 gives the result in this way?
 Evidently, there is an inconsistency in these different results. Help me,
 please.


 *

 *I used the same energy file (ener.edr) and I get this results:
 http://help-gromacs.blogspot.com.br/. The files visco.xvg are equals.

 *

*Maybe you can post the energy file on that site as well.

Have you tried to compute the pressure autocorrelation (using g_energy)?*

I didn't the pressure autocorrelation. A question: what does this analysis
tell me?
I posted the energy file here:
http://www.4shared.com/file/SSAU1reN/ener.html.
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