Re: [gmx-users] [ defaults ] and nonbonded

2013-06-12 Thread Steven Neumann
Whether it would be that easy i will find it. I specified my own potential
(not LJ) - so how come I should choose option 1 or 2 in nbfunct? I changed
h(x) in my table 6th column.


On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 1:18 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 6/11/13 4:12 PM, Steven Neumann wrote:

 Dear Gromacs Users,

 I got really confused: In manual [defualts ]:

 nbfunc is the non-bonded function type. Use 1 (Lennard-Jones) or 2
 (Buckingham)

 I want to use mdrun -table table.xvg with my own potential, which one I
 should choose?

 gen-pairs - is for pair generation. The default is ‘no’, i.e. get 1-4
 parameters from the pairtypes list. When parameters are not present in the
 list, stop with a fatal error. Setting‘yes’ generates 1-4 parameters that
 are not present in the pair list from normal Lennard-Jones parameters
 using
 fudgeLJ

 I want to have all intramolecular atoms (within my chain) interacting (no
 exclusions) with each other from [ atomtypes ] in ffnonbonded.itp
 Does it mean yes with nrexcl =1 in my topology?

 And sth I also got confused:

 [ pairtypes ] are only 1-4 parameters or here I can specify parameters for
 all atoms within my molecule? So [ atomtypes ] in ffnonbonded.itp also
 correspond to intra molecular interactions?


 These topics are discussed frequently.  Please search the archive; surely
 you will find relevant topics.

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[gmx-users] Tutor directory in gromacs 4.6

2013-06-12 Thread colinbannister
Hope I'm not missing something obvious here - but I can't find the
'share/tutor' directory in my Gromacs 4.6 installation.  Should it be there
?

thanks,

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[gmx-users] dssp works fine, but do_dssp gives fatal error

2013-06-12 Thread Nikunj Maheshwari
Dear all,

I installed dssp (Version 2.0.4) and it works perfect on a .pdb file.
I am trying to use it for do_dssp command but get the following error each
time:

Fatal error:
Failed to execute command: /usr/local/bin/dssp -na ddtmi68v ddwLuK68 
/dev/null 2 /dev/null


Is there any way to rectify it?

Thanks.
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Re: [gmx-users] Tutor directory in gromacs 4.6

2013-06-12 Thread Chandan Choudhury
There are no such directory.

Chandan


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 'share/tutor' directory in my Gromacs 4.6 installation.  Should it be there
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 thanks,

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Re: [gmx-users] dssp works fine, but do_dssp gives fatal error

2013-06-12 Thread Erik Marklund
Hi,

Search the mailing list. This problem and its solution has been repeatedly 
discussed.

Erik

On 12 Jun 2013, at 10:31, Nikunj Maheshwari nixcrazyfor...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear all,
 
 I installed dssp (Version 2.0.4) and it works perfect on a .pdb file.
 I am trying to use it for do_dssp command but get the following error each
 time:
 
 Fatal error:
 Failed to execute command: /usr/local/bin/dssp -na ddtmi68v ddwLuK68 
 /dev/null 2 /dev/null
 
 
 Is there any way to rectify it?
 
 Thanks.
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RE: [gmx-users] Tutor directory in gromacs 4.6

2013-06-12 Thread Colin Bannister
Chandan,

I was looking at :

http://manual.gromacs.org/online/getting_started.html#setup

Which mentions these files.  Is this wrong ?

thanks,

Colin

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There are no such directory.

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 'share/tutor' directory in my Gromacs 4.6 installation.  Should it be 
 there ?

 thanks,

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Re: [gmx-users] dssp works fine, but do_dssp gives fatal error

2013-06-12 Thread Nikunj Maheshwari
Yes I did searched. But for most people, there were issues regarding the
path or wrong DSSP.
DSSP runs for me, but do_dssp does not.


On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Erik Marklund er...@xray.bmc.uu.se wrote:

 Hi,

 Search the mailing list. This problem and its solution has been repeatedly
 discussed.

 Erik

 On 12 Jun 2013, at 10:31, Nikunj Maheshwari nixcrazyfor...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Dear all,
 
  I installed dssp (Version 2.0.4) and it works perfect on a .pdb file.
  I am trying to use it for do_dssp command but get the following error
 each
  time:
 
  Fatal error:
  Failed to execute command: /usr/local/bin/dssp -na ddtmi68v ddwLuK68 
  /dev/null 2 /dev/null
  
 
  Is there any way to rectify it?
 
  Thanks.
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[gmx-users] Issues with energy when running in the microcanonical ensemble

2013-06-12 Thread C.M.Sampson
Dear all,

I'm using Gromacs 4.5.5 with the amber ff99SB forcefield to run NVE
simulations on ethane in 725 TIP3P water molecules.  I used antechamber
to parametrise my ethane.

I have 2 issues;

Firstly the energy conservation of my simulations seems to get worse as
I lower my timestep, here is an example .mdp file that I'm using:


integrator  = md-vv
gen_vel = no
nsteps  = 100
dt  = 0.001
nstlist = 10
rlist   = 1.3
coulombtype = pme
rcoulomb= 1.0
vdw-type= Shift
rvdw= 1.0
tcoupl  = no
pcoupl  = no
nstenergy   = 100

I found a link describing that it could be an issue with the precision
and that Gromacs can be installed with double precision:

http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Conserving_Energy

but is this the only way to ensure energy conservation?

My second issue is with the calculation of the kinetic energy, I have
2183 atoms in my simulation box which means the kinetic energy should be
(roughly)

0.5 * 3*2183-3(degrees of freedom) * 0.001987204118(kB) * 300(T) *
4.184(conversion from kcal/mol to kJ/mol) = 8163.97

however, when I look in my simulation the kinetic energy Gromacs outputs
is 5498.20 

   Step   Time Lambda
  00.00.0

   Energies (kJ/mol)
   Bond  Angle Ryckaert-Bell.  LJ-14 Coulomb-14
5.95743e+001.96046e+014.71247e-015.73520e-013.92661e+00
LJ (SR)   Coulomb (SR)   Coul. recip.  PotentialKinetic En.
5.12842e+03   -3.20604e+04   -2.67111e+03   -2.95726e+045.49820e+03
Total EnergyTemperature Pressure (bar)
   -2.40744e+043.02575e+02   -1.82251e+03

By running in NVE I'm not using a thermostat and can't find any reason
in the manual to scale the kinetic energy.  Is there an a reason I'm
missing as to why my kinetic energy seems lower than it should be?

Best Wishes

Chris







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[gmx-users] Nonbonded parameters

2013-06-12 Thread Steven Neumann
Dear Gmx Users,

Please, correct me if I am wrong. In ffnonbonded.itp

[ atomtypes ] - these are nonbonded parameters between atoms of the same
type
[ nonbond_params ] these are nonbonded parameters between atoms of
different type
[ pairtypes ] - 1-4 interactions

If that is correct why amber force filed has only [atomtypes] column? How
nonbonded parameters are calculated between atoms of a different type?
The same with charmm - only [atomtypes ] and [pairtypes ] are provided.
Would you please explain?

Steven
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Re: [gmx-users] Re: distance_restraints

2013-06-12 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 6/12/13 12:10 AM, maggin wrote:

Hi, Justin,

You are right, I should first fix the bad geometry.

I check 1dx0.pdb, and the problematic areas are:
atom1 atom2
   1  N1+  (GLY124   N) 4 H  (GLY124  HT3)
181  C  (PRO137  CD)182 H  (PRO137  HD1)
262  H  (PHE141  HD1)  263 C  (PHE141  CE2)
296 O1-(ASP144  OD2)  297 C  (ASP144  C)
685 O   (PRO165  O)  688 C  (VAL166 CA)

for these atoms bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees


1dx0.pdb is get from NMR.

So, for the initial structure , is there anyways to solve these LINCS
WARNING ?



What does visual inspection tell you about these areas: (1) from the NMR 
structure and (2) after steep minimization?


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Re: [gmx-users] Tutor directory in gromacs 4.6

2013-06-12 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 6/12/13 4:52 AM, Colin Bannister wrote:

Chandan,

I was looking at :

http://manual.gromacs.org/online/getting_started.html#setup

Which mentions these files.  Is this wrong ?



Yes, it is.  Several pages in the online manual are outdated, and share/tutor 
was removed some time ago because it was agreed that these examples were less 
than useful.  Refer to http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Tutorials for far 
more detailed tutorials.


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Re: [gmx-users] Nonbonded parameters

2013-06-12 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 6/12/13 5:30 AM, Steven Neumann wrote:

Dear Gmx Users,

Please, correct me if I am wrong. In ffnonbonded.itp

[ atomtypes ] - these are nonbonded parameters between atoms of the same
type


No, these are the nonbonded parameters that are used when applying combination 
rules between any atoms.



[ nonbond_params ] these are nonbonded parameters between atoms of
different type


No, these override combination rules.


[ pairtypes ] - 1-4 interactions

If that is correct why amber force filed has only [atomtypes] column? How
nonbonded parameters are calculated between atoms of a different type?
The same with charmm - only [atomtypes ] and [pairtypes ] are provided.
Would you please explain?



Gromos force fields, for instance, have complex ways of generating nonbonded 
interactions that are not always the same for a given atomtype.  Other force 
fields just use straight combination rules and thus never need [nonbond_params].


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Re: [gmx-users] Nonbonded parameters

2013-06-12 Thread Steven Neumann
Thank you. That means that e.g. when two LJ atoms of a different type
approaching each other the non bonded LJ potential energy is a sum of two
potentials of those atoms?


On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 6/12/13 5:30 AM, Steven Neumann wrote:

 Dear Gmx Users,

 Please, correct me if I am wrong. In ffnonbonded.itp

 [ atomtypes ] - these are nonbonded parameters between atoms of the same
 type


 No, these are the nonbonded parameters that are used when applying
 combination rules between any atoms.


  [ nonbond_params ] these are nonbonded parameters between atoms of
 different type


 No, these override combination rules.


  [ pairtypes ] - 1-4 interactions

 If that is correct why amber force filed has only [atomtypes] column? How
 nonbonded parameters are calculated between atoms of a different type?
 The same with charmm - only [atomtypes ] and [pairtypes ] are provided.
 Would you please explain?


 Gromos force fields, for instance, have complex ways of generating
 nonbonded interactions that are not always the same for a given atomtype.
  Other force fields just use straight combination rules and thus never need
 [nonbond_params].

 -Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Nonbonded parameters

2013-06-12 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 6/12/13 6:00 AM, Steven Neumann wrote:

Thank you. That means that e.g. when two LJ atoms of a different type
approaching each other the non bonded LJ potential energy is a sum of two
potentials of those atoms?



No, please refer to the Gromacs manual for discussion on combination rules and 
how they fit into the Lennard-Jones equation.


-Justin



On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:




On 6/12/13 5:30 AM, Steven Neumann wrote:


Dear Gmx Users,

Please, correct me if I am wrong. In ffnonbonded.itp

[ atomtypes ] - these are nonbonded parameters between atoms of the same
type



No, these are the nonbonded parameters that are used when applying
combination rules between any atoms.


  [ nonbond_params ] these are nonbonded parameters between atoms of

different type



No, these override combination rules.


  [ pairtypes ] - 1-4 interactions


If that is correct why amber force filed has only [atomtypes] column? How
nonbonded parameters are calculated between atoms of a different type?
The same with charmm - only [atomtypes ] and [pairtypes ] are provided.
Would you please explain?



Gromos force fields, for instance, have complex ways of generating
nonbonded interactions that are not always the same for a given atomtype.
  Other force fields just use straight combination rules and thus never need
[nonbond_params].

-Justin

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Fw: Aw: [gmx-users] Enthalpy Confusion

2013-06-12 Thread lloyd riggs


I appologise with the below, I got entropy and enthalpy confused for a mement. Funny.



Stephan


Gesendet:Dienstag, 11. Juni 2013 um 23:54 Uhr
Von:lloyd riggs lloyd.ri...@gmx.ch
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Betreff:Aw: [gmx-users] Enthalpy Confusion




If you only want the total for the system or a delta for an entire run, indexed group there of, covarience (covar/aneig) does a good job. I found neither actually fit, but the covarience does, or if you do it by hand using only LJ parmeters for the indexed sets, however I was using proteins, so for the fluid system ?, but it took some publication look ups that were quite old. (well not that old 1980s)



Stephan



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Von:Jeffery Perkins jeffery.perk...@ufv.ca
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Betreff:[gmx-users] Enthalpy Confusion

This may just be me not understanding what Im looking at, but Im trying to
get the Enthalpy of a simple test system of LJ fluid, running version 4.5.4
initially Ive tried using the enthalpy option in g_energy but I noticed
that if i compare that value to H=U+pV using either the average or the
instantaneous values from g_energy switched over to SI so that there is no
issue there, the results are different (manual calculation is around 2x the
g_energy result).

So the question is, what am I overlooking in the analysis of the data i
have?



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Re: [gmx-users] Nonbonded parameters

2013-06-12 Thread Steven Neumann
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 6/12/13 6:00 AM, Steven Neumann wrote:

 Thank you. That means that e.g. when two LJ atoms of a different type
 approaching each other the non bonded LJ potential energy is a sum of two
 potentials of those atoms?


 No, please refer to the Gromacs manual for discussion on combination
 rules and how they fit into the Lennard-Jones equation.

 -Justin


I read it.
I used combination rule 1 in which C=4epsSig^6 and A=4epsSig^12 - So that
means that when you provide in [atomtypes] in ffnonbonded your C and A
values each atom has a specific LJ potential shape. Right?
So two of them approaching each other in my system will have have the sum
of it.

Steven





 On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 6/12/13 5:30 AM, Steven Neumann wrote:

  Dear Gmx Users,

 Please, correct me if I am wrong. In ffnonbonded.itp

 [ atomtypes ] - these are nonbonded parameters between atoms of the same
 type


 No, these are the nonbonded parameters that are used when applying
 combination rules between any atoms.


   [ nonbond_params ] these are nonbonded parameters between atoms of

 different type


 No, these override combination rules.


   [ pairtypes ] - 1-4 interactions


 If that is correct why amber force filed has only [atomtypes] column?
 How
 nonbonded parameters are calculated between atoms of a different type?
 The same with charmm - only [atomtypes ] and [pairtypes ] are provided.
 Would you please explain?


  Gromos force fields, for instance, have complex ways of generating
 nonbonded interactions that are not always the same for a given atomtype.
   Other force fields just use straight combination rules and thus never
 need
 [nonbond_params].

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Re: [gmx-users] dssp works fine, but do_dssp gives fatal error

2013-06-12 Thread Mark Abraham
Right. And what is its location?
On Jun 12, 2013 11:17 AM, Nikunj Maheshwari nixcrazyfor...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Yes I did searched. But for most people, there were issues regarding the
 path or wrong DSSP.
 DSSP runs for me, but do_dssp does not.


 On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Erik Marklund er...@xray.bmc.uu.se
 wrote:

  Hi,
 
  Search the mailing list. This problem and its solution has been
 repeatedly
  discussed.
 
  Erik
 
  On 12 Jun 2013, at 10:31, Nikunj Maheshwari nixcrazyfor...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   Dear all,
  
   I installed dssp (Version 2.0.4) and it works perfect on a .pdb file.
   I am trying to use it for do_dssp command but get the following error
  each
   time:
  
   Fatal error:
   Failed to execute command: /usr/local/bin/dssp -na ddtmi68v ddwLuK68 
   /dev/null 2 /dev/null
   
  
   Is there any way to rectify it?
  
   Thanks.
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Re: [gmx-users] [ defaults ] and nonbonded

2013-06-12 Thread Mark Abraham
You've got a test case that shows your tables do what you think they do,
right? I would vary this setting and expect to see no effect.

Mark
On Jun 12, 2013 10:03 AM, Steven Neumann s.neuman...@gmail.com wrote:

 Whether it would be that easy i will find it. I specified my own potential
 (not LJ) - so how come I should choose option 1 or 2 in nbfunct? I changed
 h(x) in my table 6th column.


 On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 1:18 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:

 
 
  On 6/11/13 4:12 PM, Steven Neumann wrote:
 
  Dear Gromacs Users,
 
  I got really confused: In manual [defualts ]:
 
  nbfunc is the non-bonded function type. Use 1 (Lennard-Jones) or 2
  (Buckingham)
 
  I want to use mdrun -table table.xvg with my own potential, which one I
  should choose?
 
  gen-pairs - is for pair generation. The default is ‘no’, i.e. get 1-4
  parameters from the pairtypes list. When parameters are not present in
 the
  list, stop with a fatal error. Setting‘yes’ generates 1-4 parameters
 that
  are not present in the pair list from normal Lennard-Jones parameters
  using
  fudgeLJ
 
  I want to have all intramolecular atoms (within my chain) interacting
 (no
  exclusions) with each other from [ atomtypes ] in ffnonbonded.itp
  Does it mean yes with nrexcl =1 in my topology?
 
  And sth I also got confused:
 
  [ pairtypes ] are only 1-4 parameters or here I can specify parameters
 for
  all atoms within my molecule? So [ atomtypes ] in ffnonbonded.itp also
  correspond to intra molecular interactions?
 
 
  These topics are discussed frequently.  Please search the archive; surely
  you will find relevant topics.
 
  -Justin
 
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Re: [gmx-users] dssp works fine, but do_dssp gives fatal error

2013-06-12 Thread Nikunj Maheshwari
The location of dssp is /usr/local/bin/dssp


On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.comwrote:

 Right. And what is its location?
 On Jun 12, 2013 11:17 AM, Nikunj Maheshwari nixcrazyfor...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Yes I did searched. But for most people, there were issues regarding the
  path or wrong DSSP.
  DSSP runs for me, but do_dssp does not.
 
 
  On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Erik Marklund er...@xray.bmc.uu.se
  wrote:
 
   Hi,
  
   Search the mailing list. This problem and its solution has been
  repeatedly
   discussed.
  
   Erik
  
   On 12 Jun 2013, at 10:31, Nikunj Maheshwari nixcrazyfor...@gmail.com
   wrote:
  
Dear all,
   
I installed dssp (Version 2.0.4) and it works perfect on a .pdb file.
I am trying to use it for do_dssp command but get the following error
   each
time:
   
Fatal error:
Failed to execute command: /usr/local/bin/dssp -na ddtmi68v ddwLuK68
 
/dev/null 2 /dev/null

   
Is there any way to rectify it?
   
Thanks.
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Re: [gmx-users] Nonbonded parameters

2013-06-12 Thread Steven Neumann
I got it. However,

I have 60  atoms in my chain all with given C6 and C12 with a combination
rule 1. When running grompp:

Generated 1830 of the 1830 non-bonded parameter combinations
Generating 1-4 interactions: fudge = 1
Generated 1830 of the 1830 1-4 parameter combinations
Excluding 3 bonded neighbours molecule type 'Protein_chain_X'
Analysing residue names:
There are: 1Protein residues
Analysing Protein...
Number of degrees of freedom in T-Coupling group rest is 118.00
This run will generate roughly 2 Mb of data

when changing nrexcl in my topology to 0:


Generated 1830 of the 1830 non-bonded parameter combinations
Generating 1-4 interactions: fudge = 1
Generated 1830 of the 1830 1-4 parameter combinations
Excluding 0 bonded neighbours molecule type 'Protein_chain_X'
Analysing residue names:
There are: 1Protein residues
Analysing Protein...
Number of degrees of freedom in T-Coupling group rest is 118.00
This run will generate roughly 2 Mb of data

So if I exclude 1-3 interactions I have the same number of nonbonded
parameters as well as 1-4 interactions. Can someone explain me this please?



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 On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 6/12/13 6:00 AM, Steven Neumann wrote:

 Thank you. That means that e.g. when two LJ atoms of a different type
 approaching each other the non bonded LJ potential energy is a sum of two
 potentials of those atoms?


 No, please refer to the Gromacs manual for discussion on combination
 rules and how they fit into the Lennard-Jones equation.

 -Justin


 I read it.
 I used combination rule 1 in which C=4epsSig^6 and A=4epsSig^12 - So that
 means that when you provide in [atomtypes] in ffnonbonded your C and A
 values each atom has a specific LJ potential shape. Right?
 So two of them approaching each other in my system will have have the sum
 of it.

 Steven





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 On 6/12/13 5:30 AM, Steven Neumann wrote:

  Dear Gmx Users,

 Please, correct me if I am wrong. In ffnonbonded.itp

 [ atomtypes ] - these are nonbonded parameters between atoms of the
 same
 type


 No, these are the nonbonded parameters that are used when applying
 combination rules between any atoms.


   [ nonbond_params ] these are nonbonded parameters between atoms of

 different type


 No, these override combination rules.


   [ pairtypes ] - 1-4 interactions


 If that is correct why amber force filed has only [atomtypes] column?
 How
 nonbonded parameters are calculated between atoms of a different type?
 The same with charmm - only [atomtypes ] and [pairtypes ] are provided.
 Would you please explain?


  Gromos force fields, for instance, have complex ways of generating
 nonbonded interactions that are not always the same for a given
 atomtype.
   Other force fields just use straight combination rules and thus never
 need
 [nonbond_params].

 -Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] dssp works fine, but do_dssp gives fatal error

2013-06-12 Thread Erik Marklund
Search again. The syntax for invoking dssp changed at some point and it took a 
while before do_dssp adapted to that. If your do_dssp is lacking the -ver 
option then I'm quite confident that it uses the old syntax, which doesn't work 
with the newer versions (v. 2.0+ I think) of dssp.

Erik
 
On 12 Jun 2013, at 11:17, Nikunj Maheshwari nixcrazyfor...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes I did searched. But for most people, there were issues regarding the
 path or wrong DSSP.
 DSSP runs for me, but do_dssp does not.
 
 
 On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Erik Marklund er...@xray.bmc.uu.se wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Search the mailing list. This problem and its solution has been repeatedly
 discussed.
 
 Erik
 
 On 12 Jun 2013, at 10:31, Nikunj Maheshwari nixcrazyfor...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Dear all,
 
 I installed dssp (Version 2.0.4) and it works perfect on a .pdb file.
 I am trying to use it for do_dssp command but get the following error
 each
 time:
 
 Fatal error:
 Failed to execute command: /usr/local/bin/dssp -na ddtmi68v ddwLuK68 
 /dev/null 2 /dev/null
 
 
 Is there any way to rectify it?
 
 Thanks.
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Re: [gmx-users] dssp works fine, but do_dssp gives fatal error

2013-06-12 Thread Nikunj Maheshwari
Yes I checked. do_dssp has no -ver option.
I also found out this link

https://gerrit.gromacs.org/#/c/687/

but dont know how to install/use it.

Or maybe I can install DsspOld and see?



On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Erik Marklund er...@xray.bmc.uu.se wrote:

 Search again. The syntax for invoking dssp changed at some point and it
 took a while before do_dssp adapted to that. If your do_dssp is lacking the
 -ver option then I'm quite confident that it uses the old syntax, which
 doesn't work with the newer versions (v. 2.0+ I think) of dssp.

 Erik

 On 12 Jun 2013, at 11:17, Nikunj Maheshwari nixcrazyfor...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Yes I did searched. But for most people, there were issues regarding the
  path or wrong DSSP.
  DSSP runs for me, but do_dssp does not.
 
 
  On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Erik Marklund er...@xray.bmc.uu.se
 wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  Search the mailing list. This problem and its solution has been
 repeatedly
  discussed.
 
  Erik
 
  On 12 Jun 2013, at 10:31, Nikunj Maheshwari nixcrazyfor...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Dear all,
 
  I installed dssp (Version 2.0.4) and it works perfect on a .pdb file.
  I am trying to use it for do_dssp command but get the following error
  each
  time:
 
  Fatal error:
  Failed to execute command: /usr/local/bin/dssp -na ddtmi68v ddwLuK68 
  /dev/null 2 /dev/null
  
 
  Is there any way to rectify it?
 
  Thanks.
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Re: [gmx-users] dssp works fine, but do_dssp gives fatal error

2013-06-12 Thread Erik Marklund
You have (at least) two easy options.

1) Install old_dssp that is available through the dssp web page.  
2) Install a newer version of gromacs than you have at the moment. What version 
do you currently use?

Erik

On 12 Jun 2013, at 12:56, Nikunj Maheshwari nixcrazyfor...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes I checked. do_dssp has no -ver option.
 I also found out this link
 
 https://gerrit.gromacs.org/#/c/687/
 
 but dont know how to install/use it.
 
 Or maybe I can install DsspOld and see?
 
 
 
 On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Erik Marklund er...@xray.bmc.uu.se wrote:
 
 Search again. The syntax for invoking dssp changed at some point and it
 took a while before do_dssp adapted to that. If your do_dssp is lacking the
 -ver option then I'm quite confident that it uses the old syntax, which
 doesn't work with the newer versions (v. 2.0+ I think) of dssp.
 
 Erik
 
 On 12 Jun 2013, at 11:17, Nikunj Maheshwari nixcrazyfor...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Yes I did searched. But for most people, there were issues regarding the
 path or wrong DSSP.
 DSSP runs for me, but do_dssp does not.
 
 
 On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Erik Marklund er...@xray.bmc.uu.se
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Search the mailing list. This problem and its solution has been
 repeatedly
 discussed.
 
 Erik
 
 On 12 Jun 2013, at 10:31, Nikunj Maheshwari nixcrazyfor...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Dear all,
 
 I installed dssp (Version 2.0.4) and it works perfect on a .pdb file.
 I am trying to use it for do_dssp command but get the following error
 each
 time:
 
 Fatal error:
 Failed to execute command: /usr/local/bin/dssp -na ddtmi68v ddwLuK68 
 /dev/null 2 /dev/null
 
 
 Is there any way to rectify it?
 
 Thanks.
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Re: [gmx-users] dssp works fine, but do_dssp gives fatal error

2013-06-12 Thread Nikunj Maheshwari
My current Gromacs version is 4.5.5
I think using the first option will be easy and quick.


On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Erik Marklund er...@xray.bmc.uu.se wrote:

 You have (at least) two easy options.

 1) Install old_dssp that is available through the dssp web page.
 2) Install a newer version of gromacs than you have at the moment. What
 version do you currently use?

 Erik

 On 12 Jun 2013, at 12:56, Nikunj Maheshwari nixcrazyfor...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Yes I checked. do_dssp has no -ver option.
  I also found out this link
 
  https://gerrit.gromacs.org/#/c/687/
 
  but dont know how to install/use it.
 
  Or maybe I can install DsspOld and see?
 
 
 
  On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Erik Marklund er...@xray.bmc.uu.se
 wrote:
 
  Search again. The syntax for invoking dssp changed at some point and it
  took a while before do_dssp adapted to that. If your do_dssp is lacking
 the
  -ver option then I'm quite confident that it uses the old syntax, which
  doesn't work with the newer versions (v. 2.0+ I think) of dssp.
 
  Erik
 
  On 12 Jun 2013, at 11:17, Nikunj Maheshwari nixcrazyfor...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Yes I did searched. But for most people, there were issues regarding
 the
  path or wrong DSSP.
  DSSP runs for me, but do_dssp does not.
 
 
  On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Erik Marklund er...@xray.bmc.uu.se
  wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  Search the mailing list. This problem and its solution has been
  repeatedly
  discussed.
 
  Erik
 
  On 12 Jun 2013, at 10:31, Nikunj Maheshwari nixcrazyfor...@gmail.com
 
  wrote:
 
  Dear all,
 
  I installed dssp (Version 2.0.4) and it works perfect on a .pdb file.
  I am trying to use it for do_dssp command but get the following error
  each
  time:
 
  Fatal error:
  Failed to execute command: /usr/local/bin/dssp -na ddtmi68v ddwLuK68
 
  /dev/null 2 /dev/null
  
 
  Is there any way to rectify it?
 
  Thanks.
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[gmx-users] Umbrella Sampling Force component output

2013-06-12 Thread Kenny Bravo Rodriguez

Dear Gromacs Users,

I runned and Umbrella Sampling simulation but I made a mistake in the 
value of the pull_dim option, so gromacs printed the z component of the 
force instead of the x component that i need (with the option -pf of 
mdrun). I have all files from the simulation.
Is there a way to get the x component of the force without running the 
simulation again?


Thanks in advanced,
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Re: [gmx-users] Nonbonded parameters

2013-06-12 Thread Steven Neumann
An why do I have 1830 non bonded? 60*60/2 = 1800. There are 57 of 1-4
combinations so it should be lower than 1800...
And why 1830 1-4 interactions as I have only 57... Please, help/

Steven


On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Steven Neumann s.neuman...@gmail.comwrote:

 I got it. However,

 I have 60  atoms in my chain all with given C6 and C12 with a combination
 rule 1. When running grompp:

 Generated 1830 of the 1830 non-bonded parameter combinations
 Generating 1-4 interactions: fudge = 1
 Generated 1830 of the 1830 1-4 parameter combinations
 Excluding 3 bonded neighbours molecule type 'Protein_chain_X'
 Analysing residue names:
 There are: 1Protein residues
 Analysing Protein...
 Number of degrees of freedom in T-Coupling group rest is 118.00
 This run will generate roughly 2 Mb of data

 when changing nrexcl in my topology to 0:


 Generated 1830 of the 1830 non-bonded parameter combinations
 Generating 1-4 interactions: fudge = 1
 Generated 1830 of the 1830 1-4 parameter combinations
 Excluding 0 bonded neighbours molecule type 'Protein_chain_X'
 Analysing residue names:
 There are: 1Protein residues
 Analysing Protein...
 Number of degrees of freedom in T-Coupling group rest is 118.00
 This run will generate roughly 2 Mb of data

 So if I exclude 1-3 interactions I have the same number of nonbonded
 parameters as well as 1-4 interactions. Can someone explain me this please?



 On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Steven Neumann s.neuman...@gmail.comwrote:




 On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 6/12/13 6:00 AM, Steven Neumann wrote:

 Thank you. That means that e.g. when two LJ atoms of a different type
 approaching each other the non bonded LJ potential energy is a sum of
 two
 potentials of those atoms?


 No, please refer to the Gromacs manual for discussion on combination
 rules and how they fit into the Lennard-Jones equation.

 -Justin


 I read it.
 I used combination rule 1 in which C=4epsSig^6 and A=4epsSig^12 - So that
 means that when you provide in [atomtypes] in ffnonbonded your C and A
 values each atom has a specific LJ potential shape. Right?
 So two of them approaching each other in my system will have have the sum
 of it.

 Steven





 On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
 wrote:



 On 6/12/13 5:30 AM, Steven Neumann wrote:

  Dear Gmx Users,

 Please, correct me if I am wrong. In ffnonbonded.itp

 [ atomtypes ] - these are nonbonded parameters between atoms of the
 same
 type


 No, these are the nonbonded parameters that are used when applying
 combination rules between any atoms.


   [ nonbond_params ] these are nonbonded parameters between atoms of

 different type


 No, these override combination rules.


   [ pairtypes ] - 1-4 interactions


 If that is correct why amber force filed has only [atomtypes] column?
 How
 nonbonded parameters are calculated between atoms of a different type?
 The same with charmm - only [atomtypes ] and [pairtypes ] are
 provided.
 Would you please explain?


  Gromos force fields, for instance, have complex ways of generating
 nonbonded interactions that are not always the same for a given
 atomtype.
   Other force fields just use straight combination rules and thus
 never need
 [nonbond_params].

 -Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Nonbonded parameters

2013-06-12 Thread Mark Abraham
grompp is just enumerating the possible combinations of parameters given
your inputs. Whether any of those will be used in the simulation will
depend on whether atoms of given types are close enough and not excluded.

Mark


On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Steven Neumann s.neuman...@gmail.comwrote:

 I got it. However,

 I have 60  atoms in my chain all with given C6 and C12 with a combination
 rule 1. When running grompp:

 Generated 1830 of the 1830 non-bonded parameter combinations
 Generating 1-4 interactions: fudge = 1
 Generated 1830 of the 1830 1-4 parameter combinations
 Excluding 3 bonded neighbours molecule type 'Protein_chain_X'
 Analysing residue names:
 There are: 1Protein residues
 Analysing Protein...
 Number of degrees of freedom in T-Coupling group rest is 118.00
 This run will generate roughly 2 Mb of data

 when changing nrexcl in my topology to 0:


 Generated 1830 of the 1830 non-bonded parameter combinations
 Generating 1-4 interactions: fudge = 1
 Generated 1830 of the 1830 1-4 parameter combinations
 Excluding 0 bonded neighbours molecule type 'Protein_chain_X'
 Analysing residue names:
 There are: 1Protein residues
 Analysing Protein...
 Number of degrees of freedom in T-Coupling group rest is 118.00
 This run will generate roughly 2 Mb of data

 So if I exclude 1-3 interactions I have the same number of nonbonded
 parameters as well as 1-4 interactions. Can someone explain me this please?



 On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Steven Neumann s.neuman...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 
 
 
  On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:
 
 
 
  On 6/12/13 6:00 AM, Steven Neumann wrote:
 
  Thank you. That means that e.g. when two LJ atoms of a different type
  approaching each other the non bonded LJ potential energy is a sum of
 two
  potentials of those atoms?
 
 
  No, please refer to the Gromacs manual for discussion on combination
  rules and how they fit into the Lennard-Jones equation.
 
  -Justin
 
 
  I read it.
  I used combination rule 1 in which C=4epsSig^6 and A=4epsSig^12 - So that
  means that when you provide in [atomtypes] in ffnonbonded your C and A
  values each atom has a specific LJ potential shape. Right?
  So two of them approaching each other in my system will have have the sum
  of it.
 
  Steven
 
 
 
 
 
  On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
 wrote:
 
 
 
  On 6/12/13 5:30 AM, Steven Neumann wrote:
 
   Dear Gmx Users,
 
  Please, correct me if I am wrong. In ffnonbonded.itp
 
  [ atomtypes ] - these are nonbonded parameters between atoms of the
  same
  type
 
 
  No, these are the nonbonded parameters that are used when applying
  combination rules between any atoms.
 
 
[ nonbond_params ] these are nonbonded parameters between atoms of
 
  different type
 
 
  No, these override combination rules.
 
 
[ pairtypes ] - 1-4 interactions
 
 
  If that is correct why amber force filed has only [atomtypes] column?
  How
  nonbonded parameters are calculated between atoms of a different
 type?
  The same with charmm - only [atomtypes ] and [pairtypes ] are
 provided.
  Would you please explain?
 
 
   Gromos force fields, for instance, have complex ways of generating
  nonbonded interactions that are not always the same for a given
  atomtype.
Other force fields just use straight combination rules and thus
 never
  need
  [nonbond_params].
 
  -Justin
 
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Re: [gmx-users] Nonbonded parameters

2013-06-12 Thread Mark Abraham
Parameters for possible interactions is not the same as interactions.
The latter depend on the configuration and cut-offs... grompp is not doing
a neighbor search!

Mark


On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Steven Neumann s.neuman...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  grompp is just enumerating the possible combinations of parameters given
  your inputs. Whether any of those will be used in the simulation will
  depend on whether atoms of given types are close enough and not excluded.
 
  Mark


 I understand...but why for 60 mer polypeptide there are 1830 nonbonded
 interactions ?

 
 
  On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Steven Neumann s.neuman...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   I got it. However,
  
   I have 60  atoms in my chain all with given C6 and C12 with a
 combination
   rule 1. When running grompp:
  
   Generated 1830 of the 1830 non-bonded parameter combinations
   Generating 1-4 interactions: fudge = 1
   Generated 1830 of the 1830 1-4 parameter combinations
   Excluding 3 bonded neighbours molecule type 'Protein_chain_X'
   Analysing residue names:
   There are: 1Protein residues
   Analysing Protein...
   Number of degrees of freedom in T-Coupling group rest is 118.00
   This run will generate roughly 2 Mb of data
  
   when changing nrexcl in my topology to 0:
  
  
   Generated 1830 of the 1830 non-bonded parameter combinations
   Generating 1-4 interactions: fudge = 1
   Generated 1830 of the 1830 1-4 parameter combinations
   Excluding 0 bonded neighbours molecule type 'Protein_chain_X'
   Analysing residue names:
   There are: 1Protein residues
   Analysing Protein...
   Number of degrees of freedom in T-Coupling group rest is 118.00
   This run will generate roughly 2 Mb of data
  
   So if I exclude 1-3 interactions I have the same number of nonbonded
   parameters as well as 1-4 interactions. Can someone explain me this
  please?
  
  
  
   On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Steven Neumann 
 s.neuman...@gmail.com
   wrote:
  
   
   
   
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
  wrote:
   
   
   
On 6/12/13 6:00 AM, Steven Neumann wrote:
   
Thank you. That means that e.g. when two LJ atoms of a different
 type
approaching each other the non bonded LJ potential energy is a sum
 of
   two
potentials of those atoms?
   
   
No, please refer to the Gromacs manual for discussion on
 combination
rules and how they fit into the Lennard-Jones equation.
   
-Justin
   
   
I read it.
I used combination rule 1 in which C=4epsSig^6 and A=4epsSig^12 - So
  that
means that when you provide in [atomtypes] in ffnonbonded your C and
 A
values each atom has a specific LJ potential shape. Right?
So two of them approaching each other in my system will have have the
  sum
of it.
   
Steven
   
   
   
   
   
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
   wrote:
   
   
   
On 6/12/13 5:30 AM, Steven Neumann wrote:
   
 Dear Gmx Users,
   
Please, correct me if I am wrong. In ffnonbonded.itp
   
[ atomtypes ] - these are nonbonded parameters between atoms of
 the
same
type
   
   
No, these are the nonbonded parameters that are used when applying
combination rules between any atoms.
   
   
  [ nonbond_params ] these are nonbonded parameters between atoms
 of
   
different type
   
   
No, these override combination rules.
   
   
  [ pairtypes ] - 1-4 interactions
   
   
If that is correct why amber force filed has only [atomtypes]
  column?
How
nonbonded parameters are calculated between atoms of a different
   type?
The same with charmm - only [atomtypes ] and [pairtypes ] are
   provided.
Would you please explain?
   
   
 Gromos force fields, for instance, have complex ways of
 generating
nonbonded interactions that are not always the same for a given
atomtype.
  Other force fields just use straight combination rules and thus
   never
need
[nonbond_params].
   
-Justin
   
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Research Scientist
Department of Biochemistry
Virginia Tech
Blacksburg, VA
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http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin
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Re: [gmx-users] Nonbonded parameters

2013-06-12 Thread Steven Neumann
All possible interactions = 60*60/2 = 1800. Where grompp takes another 30
from?


On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.comwrote:

 Parameters for possible interactions is not the same as interactions.
 The latter depend on the configuration and cut-offs... grompp is not doing
 a neighbor search!

 Mark


 On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Steven Neumann s.neuman...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   grompp is just enumerating the possible combinations of parameters
 given
   your inputs. Whether any of those will be used in the simulation will
   depend on whether atoms of given types are close enough and not
 excluded.
  
   Mark
 
 
  I understand...but why for 60 mer polypeptide there are 1830 nonbonded
  interactions ?
 
  
  
   On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Steven Neumann 
 s.neuman...@gmail.com
   wrote:
  
I got it. However,
   
I have 60  atoms in my chain all with given C6 and C12 with a
  combination
rule 1. When running grompp:
   
Generated 1830 of the 1830 non-bonded parameter combinations
Generating 1-4 interactions: fudge = 1
Generated 1830 of the 1830 1-4 parameter combinations
Excluding 3 bonded neighbours molecule type 'Protein_chain_X'
Analysing residue names:
There are: 1Protein residues
Analysing Protein...
Number of degrees of freedom in T-Coupling group rest is 118.00
This run will generate roughly 2 Mb of data
   
when changing nrexcl in my topology to 0:
   
   
Generated 1830 of the 1830 non-bonded parameter combinations
Generating 1-4 interactions: fudge = 1
Generated 1830 of the 1830 1-4 parameter combinations
Excluding 0 bonded neighbours molecule type 'Protein_chain_X'
Analysing residue names:
There are: 1Protein residues
Analysing Protein...
Number of degrees of freedom in T-Coupling group rest is 118.00
This run will generate roughly 2 Mb of data
   
So if I exclude 1-3 interactions I have the same number of nonbonded
parameters as well as 1-4 interactions. Can someone explain me this
   please?
   
   
   
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Steven Neumann 
  s.neuman...@gmail.com
wrote:
   



 On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
   wrote:



 On 6/12/13 6:00 AM, Steven Neumann wrote:

 Thank you. That means that e.g. when two LJ atoms of a different
  type
 approaching each other the non bonded LJ potential energy is a
 sum
  of
two
 potentials of those atoms?


 No, please refer to the Gromacs manual for discussion on
  combination
 rules and how they fit into the Lennard-Jones equation.

 -Justin


 I read it.
 I used combination rule 1 in which C=4epsSig^6 and A=4epsSig^12 -
 So
   that
 means that when you provide in [atomtypes] in ffnonbonded your C
 and
  A
 values each atom has a specific LJ potential shape. Right?
 So two of them approaching each other in my system will have have
 the
   sum
 of it.

 Steven





 On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
 
wrote:



 On 6/12/13 5:30 AM, Steven Neumann wrote:

  Dear Gmx Users,

 Please, correct me if I am wrong. In ffnonbonded.itp

 [ atomtypes ] - these are nonbonded parameters between atoms of
  the
 same
 type


 No, these are the nonbonded parameters that are used when
 applying
 combination rules between any atoms.


   [ nonbond_params ] these are nonbonded parameters between
 atoms
  of

 different type


 No, these override combination rules.


   [ pairtypes ] - 1-4 interactions


 If that is correct why amber force filed has only [atomtypes]
   column?
 How
 nonbonded parameters are calculated between atoms of a
 different
type?
 The same with charmm - only [atomtypes ] and [pairtypes ] are
provided.
 Would you please explain?


  Gromos force fields, for instance, have complex ways of
  generating
 nonbonded interactions that are not always the same for a given
 atomtype.
   Other force fields just use straight combination rules and
 thus
never
 need
 [nonbond_params].

 -Justin

 --
 ====


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 Research Scientist
 Department of Biochemistry
 Virginia Tech
 Blacksburg, VA
 jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080
 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin
http://vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin
 h**ttp://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.**edu/Pages/Personal/justin
http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin
 

 ====

 

Re: [gmx-users] Nonbonded parameters

2013-06-12 Thread Steven Neumann
and 1830 1-4 interactions... there are 57 all possible 1-4 interactions


On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Steven Neumann s.neuman...@gmail.comwrote:

 All possible interactions = 60*60/2 = 1800. Where grompp takes another 30
 from?


 On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Mark Abraham 
 mark.j.abra...@gmail.comwrote:

 Parameters for possible interactions is not the same as interactions.
 The latter depend on the configuration and cut-offs... grompp is not doing
 a neighbor search!

 Mark


 On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Steven Neumann s.neuman...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Mark Abraham 
 mark.j.abra...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   grompp is just enumerating the possible combinations of parameters
 given
   your inputs. Whether any of those will be used in the simulation will
   depend on whether atoms of given types are close enough and not
 excluded.
  
   Mark
 
 
  I understand...but why for 60 mer polypeptide there are 1830 nonbonded
  interactions ?
 
  
  
   On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Steven Neumann 
 s.neuman...@gmail.com
   wrote:
  
I got it. However,
   
I have 60  atoms in my chain all with given C6 and C12 with a
  combination
rule 1. When running grompp:
   
Generated 1830 of the 1830 non-bonded parameter combinations
Generating 1-4 interactions: fudge = 1
Generated 1830 of the 1830 1-4 parameter combinations
Excluding 3 bonded neighbours molecule type 'Protein_chain_X'
Analysing residue names:
There are: 1Protein residues
Analysing Protein...
Number of degrees of freedom in T-Coupling group rest is 118.00
This run will generate roughly 2 Mb of data
   
when changing nrexcl in my topology to 0:
   
   
Generated 1830 of the 1830 non-bonded parameter combinations
Generating 1-4 interactions: fudge = 1
Generated 1830 of the 1830 1-4 parameter combinations
Excluding 0 bonded neighbours molecule type 'Protein_chain_X'
Analysing residue names:
There are: 1Protein residues
Analysing Protein...
Number of degrees of freedom in T-Coupling group rest is 118.00
This run will generate roughly 2 Mb of data
   
So if I exclude 1-3 interactions I have the same number of nonbonded
parameters as well as 1-4 interactions. Can someone explain me this
   please?
   
   
   
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Steven Neumann 
  s.neuman...@gmail.com
wrote:
   



 On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
   wrote:



 On 6/12/13 6:00 AM, Steven Neumann wrote:

 Thank you. That means that e.g. when two LJ atoms of a different
  type
 approaching each other the non bonded LJ potential energy is a
 sum
  of
two
 potentials of those atoms?


 No, please refer to the Gromacs manual for discussion on
  combination
 rules and how they fit into the Lennard-Jones equation.

 -Justin


 I read it.
 I used combination rule 1 in which C=4epsSig^6 and A=4epsSig^12 -
 So
   that
 means that when you provide in [atomtypes] in ffnonbonded your C
 and
  A
 values each atom has a specific LJ potential shape. Right?
 So two of them approaching each other in my system will have have
 the
   sum
 of it.

 Steven





 On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Justin Lemkul 
 jalem...@vt.edu
wrote:



 On 6/12/13 5:30 AM, Steven Neumann wrote:

  Dear Gmx Users,

 Please, correct me if I am wrong. In ffnonbonded.itp

 [ atomtypes ] - these are nonbonded parameters between atoms
 of
  the
 same
 type


 No, these are the nonbonded parameters that are used when
 applying
 combination rules between any atoms.


   [ nonbond_params ] these are nonbonded parameters between
 atoms
  of

 different type


 No, these override combination rules.


   [ pairtypes ] - 1-4 interactions


 If that is correct why amber force filed has only [atomtypes]
   column?
 How
 nonbonded parameters are calculated between atoms of a
 different
type?
 The same with charmm - only [atomtypes ] and [pairtypes ] are
provided.
 Would you please explain?


  Gromos force fields, for instance, have complex ways of
  generating
 nonbonded interactions that are not always the same for a given
 atomtype.
   Other force fields just use straight combination rules and
 thus
never
 need
 [nonbond_params].

 -Justin

 --
 ====


 Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D.
 Research Scientist
 Department of Biochemistry
 Virginia Tech
 Blacksburg, VA
 jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080
 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin
http://vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin
 

Re: [gmx-users] Umbrella Sampling Force component output

2013-06-12 Thread Kenny Bravo Rodriguez

Thanks Erik

On 06/12/2013 01:50 PM, Erik Marklund wrote:

Hi,

No, I'm afraid not. pull-dim not only determines what components are to be 
printed, it also determines in what dimensions the force is to be applied 
during the simulation.

Erik

On 12 Jun 2013, at 13:32, Kenny Bravo Rodriguez ke...@mpi-muelheim.mpg.de 
wrote:


Dear Gromacs Users,

I runned and Umbrella Sampling simulation but I made a mistake in the value of 
the pull_dim option, so gromacs printed the z component of the force instead of 
the x component that i need (with the option -pf of mdrun). I have all files 
from the simulation.
Is there a way to get the x component of the force without running the 
simulation again?

Thanks in advanced,
Kenny
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Re: [gmx-users] Nonbonded parameters

2013-06-12 Thread Mark Abraham
How many atom *types* are there?


On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Steven Neumann s.neuman...@gmail.comwrote:

 and 1830 1-4 interactions... there are 57 all possible 1-4 interactions


 On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Steven Neumann s.neuman...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  All possible interactions = 60*60/2 = 1800. Where grompp takes another
 30
  from?
 
 
  On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Parameters for possible interactions is not the same as
 interactions.
  The latter depend on the configuration and cut-offs... grompp is not
 doing
  a neighbor search!
 
  Mark
 
 
  On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Steven Neumann s.neuman...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Mark Abraham 
  mark.j.abra...@gmail.com
   wrote:
  
grompp is just enumerating the possible combinations of parameters
  given
your inputs. Whether any of those will be used in the simulation
 will
depend on whether atoms of given types are close enough and not
  excluded.
   
Mark
  
  
   I understand...but why for 60 mer polypeptide there are 1830 nonbonded
   interactions ?
  
   
   
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Steven Neumann 
  s.neuman...@gmail.com
wrote:
   
 I got it. However,

 I have 60  atoms in my chain all with given C6 and C12 with a
   combination
 rule 1. When running grompp:

 Generated 1830 of the 1830 non-bonded parameter combinations
 Generating 1-4 interactions: fudge = 1
 Generated 1830 of the 1830 1-4 parameter combinations
 Excluding 3 bonded neighbours molecule type 'Protein_chain_X'
 Analysing residue names:
 There are: 1Protein residues
 Analysing Protein...
 Number of degrees of freedom in T-Coupling group rest is 118.00
 This run will generate roughly 2 Mb of data

 when changing nrexcl in my topology to 0:


 Generated 1830 of the 1830 non-bonded parameter combinations
 Generating 1-4 interactions: fudge = 1
 Generated 1830 of the 1830 1-4 parameter combinations
 Excluding 0 bonded neighbours molecule type 'Protein_chain_X'
 Analysing residue names:
 There are: 1Protein residues
 Analysing Protein...
 Number of degrees of freedom in T-Coupling group rest is 118.00
 This run will generate roughly 2 Mb of data

 So if I exclude 1-3 interactions I have the same number of
 nonbonded
 parameters as well as 1-4 interactions. Can someone explain me
 this
please?



 On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Steven Neumann 
   s.neuman...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 
 
 
  On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Justin Lemkul 
 jalem...@vt.edu
wrote:
 
 
 
  On 6/12/13 6:00 AM, Steven Neumann wrote:
 
  Thank you. That means that e.g. when two LJ atoms of a
 different
   type
  approaching each other the non bonded LJ potential energy is a
  sum
   of
 two
  potentials of those atoms?
 
 
  No, please refer to the Gromacs manual for discussion on
   combination
  rules and how they fit into the Lennard-Jones equation.
 
  -Justin
 
 
  I read it.
  I used combination rule 1 in which C=4epsSig^6 and A=4epsSig^12
 -
  So
that
  means that when you provide in [atomtypes] in ffnonbonded your C
  and
   A
  values each atom has a specific LJ potential shape. Right?
  So two of them approaching each other in my system will have
 have
  the
sum
  of it.
 
  Steven
 
 
 
 
 
  On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Justin Lemkul 
  jalem...@vt.edu
 wrote:
 
 
 
  On 6/12/13 5:30 AM, Steven Neumann wrote:
 
   Dear Gmx Users,
 
  Please, correct me if I am wrong. In ffnonbonded.itp
 
  [ atomtypes ] - these are nonbonded parameters between atoms
  of
   the
  same
  type
 
 
  No, these are the nonbonded parameters that are used when
  applying
  combination rules between any atoms.
 
 
[ nonbond_params ] these are nonbonded parameters between
  atoms
   of
 
  different type
 
 
  No, these override combination rules.
 
 
[ pairtypes ] - 1-4 interactions
 
 
  If that is correct why amber force filed has only
 [atomtypes]
column?
  How
  nonbonded parameters are calculated between atoms of a
  different
 type?
  The same with charmm - only [atomtypes ] and [pairtypes ]
 are
 provided.
  Would you please explain?
 
 
   Gromos force fields, for instance, have complex ways of
   generating
  nonbonded interactions that are not always the same for a
 given
  atomtype.
Other force fields just use straight combination rules and
  thus
 never
  need
  [nonbond_params].
 
  -Justin
 
  --
  ====
 

Re: [gmx-users] Nonbonded parameters

2013-06-12 Thread Steven Neumann
60 types of atoms and 60 atoms in total belonging to one residue


On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.comwrote:

 How many atom *types* are there?


 On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Steven Neumann s.neuman...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  and 1830 1-4 interactions... there are 57 all possible 1-4 interactions
 
 
  On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Steven Neumann s.neuman...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   All possible interactions = 60*60/2 = 1800. Where grompp takes another
  30
   from?
  
  
   On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Mark Abraham 
 mark.j.abra...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
   Parameters for possible interactions is not the same as
  interactions.
   The latter depend on the configuration and cut-offs... grompp is not
  doing
   a neighbor search!
  
   Mark
  
  
   On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Steven Neumann 
 s.neuman...@gmail.com
   wrote:
  
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Mark Abraham 
   mark.j.abra...@gmail.com
wrote:
   
 grompp is just enumerating the possible combinations of parameters
   given
 your inputs. Whether any of those will be used in the simulation
  will
 depend on whether atoms of given types are close enough and not
   excluded.

 Mark
   
   
I understand...but why for 60 mer polypeptide there are 1830
 nonbonded
interactions ?
   


 On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Steven Neumann 
   s.neuman...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  I got it. However,
 
  I have 60  atoms in my chain all with given C6 and C12 with a
combination
  rule 1. When running grompp:
 
  Generated 1830 of the 1830 non-bonded parameter combinations
  Generating 1-4 interactions: fudge = 1
  Generated 1830 of the 1830 1-4 parameter combinations
  Excluding 3 bonded neighbours molecule type 'Protein_chain_X'
  Analysing residue names:
  There are: 1Protein residues
  Analysing Protein...
  Number of degrees of freedom in T-Coupling group rest is 118.00
  This run will generate roughly 2 Mb of data
 
  when changing nrexcl in my topology to 0:
 
 
  Generated 1830 of the 1830 non-bonded parameter combinations
  Generating 1-4 interactions: fudge = 1
  Generated 1830 of the 1830 1-4 parameter combinations
  Excluding 0 bonded neighbours molecule type 'Protein_chain_X'
  Analysing residue names:
  There are: 1Protein residues
  Analysing Protein...
  Number of degrees of freedom in T-Coupling group rest is 118.00
  This run will generate roughly 2 Mb of data
 
  So if I exclude 1-3 interactions I have the same number of
  nonbonded
  parameters as well as 1-4 interactions. Can someone explain me
  this
 please?
 
 
 
  On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Steven Neumann 
s.neuman...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  
  
  
   On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Justin Lemkul 
  jalem...@vt.edu
 wrote:
  
  
  
   On 6/12/13 6:00 AM, Steven Neumann wrote:
  
   Thank you. That means that e.g. when two LJ atoms of a
  different
type
   approaching each other the non bonded LJ potential energy
 is a
   sum
of
  two
   potentials of those atoms?
  
  
   No, please refer to the Gromacs manual for discussion on
combination
   rules and how they fit into the Lennard-Jones equation.
  
   -Justin
  
  
   I read it.
   I used combination rule 1 in which C=4epsSig^6 and
 A=4epsSig^12
  -
   So
 that
   means that when you provide in [atomtypes] in ffnonbonded
 your C
   and
A
   values each atom has a specific LJ potential shape. Right?
   So two of them approaching each other in my system will have
  have
   the
 sum
   of it.
  
   Steven
  
  
  
  
  
   On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Justin Lemkul 
   jalem...@vt.edu
  wrote:
  
  
  
   On 6/12/13 5:30 AM, Steven Neumann wrote:
  
Dear Gmx Users,
  
   Please, correct me if I am wrong. In ffnonbonded.itp
  
   [ atomtypes ] - these are nonbonded parameters between
 atoms
   of
the
   same
   type
  
  
   No, these are the nonbonded parameters that are used when
   applying
   combination rules between any atoms.
  
  
 [ nonbond_params ] these are nonbonded parameters between
   atoms
of
  
   different type
  
  
   No, these override combination rules.
  
  
 [ pairtypes ] - 1-4 interactions
  
  
   If that is correct why amber force filed has only
  [atomtypes]
 column?
   How
   nonbonded parameters are calculated between atoms of a
   different
  type?
   The same with charmm - only [atomtypes ] and [pairtypes ]
  are
  provided.
   Would you please explain?
  
  
Gromos force 

Re: [gmx-users] Nonbonded parameters

2013-06-12 Thread Justin Lemkul


On 6/12/13 8:01 AM, Steven Neumann wrote:

60 types of atoms and 60 atoms in total belonging to one residue


The number of possible combinations is (N(N+1))/2, thus you get 1830 from 60 
atom types.


-Justin




On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.comwrote:


How many atom *types* are there?


On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Steven Neumann s.neuman...@gmail.com

wrote:



and 1830 1-4 interactions... there are 57 all possible 1-4 interactions


On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Steven Neumann s.neuman...@gmail.com

wrote:



All possible interactions = 60*60/2 = 1800. Where grompp takes another

30

from?


On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Mark Abraham 

mark.j.abra...@gmail.com

wrote:


Parameters for possible interactions is not the same as

interactions.

The latter depend on the configuration and cut-offs... grompp is not

doing

a neighbor search!

Mark


On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Steven Neumann 

s.neuman...@gmail.com

wrote:



On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Mark Abraham 

mark.j.abra...@gmail.com

wrote:



grompp is just enumerating the possible combinations of parameters

given

your inputs. Whether any of those will be used in the simulation

will

depend on whether atoms of given types are close enough and not

excluded.


Mark



I understand...but why for 60 mer polypeptide there are 1830

nonbonded

interactions ?




On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Steven Neumann 

s.neuman...@gmail.com

wrote:



I got it. However,

I have 60  atoms in my chain all with given C6 and C12 with a

combination

rule 1. When running grompp:

Generated 1830 of the 1830 non-bonded parameter combinations
Generating 1-4 interactions: fudge = 1
Generated 1830 of the 1830 1-4 parameter combinations
Excluding 3 bonded neighbours molecule type 'Protein_chain_X'
Analysing residue names:
There are: 1Protein residues
Analysing Protein...
Number of degrees of freedom in T-Coupling group rest is 118.00
This run will generate roughly 2 Mb of data

when changing nrexcl in my topology to 0:


Generated 1830 of the 1830 non-bonded parameter combinations
Generating 1-4 interactions: fudge = 1
Generated 1830 of the 1830 1-4 parameter combinations
Excluding 0 bonded neighbours molecule type 'Protein_chain_X'
Analysing residue names:
There are: 1Protein residues
Analysing Protein...
Number of degrees of freedom in T-Coupling group rest is 118.00
This run will generate roughly 2 Mb of data

So if I exclude 1-3 interactions I have the same number of

nonbonded

parameters as well as 1-4 interactions. Can someone explain me

this

please?




On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Steven Neumann 

s.neuman...@gmail.com

wrote:






On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Justin Lemkul 

jalem...@vt.edu

wrote:





On 6/12/13 6:00 AM, Steven Neumann wrote:


Thank you. That means that e.g. when two LJ atoms of a

different

type

approaching each other the non bonded LJ potential energy

is a

sum

of

two

potentials of those atoms?



No, please refer to the Gromacs manual for discussion on

combination

rules and how they fit into the Lennard-Jones equation.

-Justin



I read it.
I used combination rule 1 in which C=4epsSig^6 and

A=4epsSig^12

-

So

that

means that when you provide in [atomtypes] in ffnonbonded

your C

and

A

values each atom has a specific LJ potential shape. Right?
So two of them approaching each other in my system will have

have

the

sum

of it.

Steven







On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Justin Lemkul 

jalem...@vt.edu

wrote:





On 6/12/13 5:30 AM, Steven Neumann wrote:

  Dear Gmx Users,


Please, correct me if I am wrong. In ffnonbonded.itp

[ atomtypes ] - these are nonbonded parameters between

atoms

of

the

same
type



No, these are the nonbonded parameters that are used when

applying

combination rules between any atoms.


   [ nonbond_params ] these are nonbonded parameters between

atoms

of



different type



No, these override combination rules.


   [ pairtypes ] - 1-4 interactions



If that is correct why amber force filed has only

[atomtypes]

column?

How
nonbonded parameters are calculated between atoms of a

different

type?

The same with charmm - only [atomtypes ] and [pairtypes ]

are

provided.

Would you please explain?


  Gromos force fields, for instance, have complex ways of

generating

nonbonded interactions that are not always the same for a

given

atomtype.
   Other force fields just use straight combination rules

and

thus

never

need
[nonbond_params].

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Nonbonded parameters

2013-06-12 Thread Steven Neumann
So how come 1830 1-4 interaction? There should be 57 of 1-4 interactions
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Re: [gmx-users] Nonbonded parameters

2013-06-12 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 6/12/13 8:16 AM, Steven Neumann wrote:

So how come 1830 1-4 interaction? There should be 57 of 1-4 interactions



Mark already told you this - interactions that exist are different from possible 
interactions.  You may have 57 interactions, but that's specific to your system 
because of how many atoms there are (which is also independent of how many atom 
types are used therein).  grompp generates a bunch of information (a matrix of 
possible interactions that could theoretically occur with N atom types); whether 
or not it uses that information is not necessarily relevant.


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Re: [gmx-users] Re: gromacs 4.6.2 MPI distribution location problems

2013-06-12 Thread Mark Abraham
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:42 AM, sirishkaushik kaushik.lakkar...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Note that this works fine with 4.5.5.

 when I installed using:

 ./configure CPPFLAGS=-I/home/kaushik/fftw-new/include
 LDFLAGS=-L/home/kaushik/fftw-new/lib --enable-mpi --prefix
 /home/kaushik/gromacs_executable/gromacs-old

 ldd mdrun on the 4.5.5 version correctly points to the fftw and the mpi
 locations:


 linux-vdso.so.1 =  (0x7fff6a302000)
 libfftw3f.so.3 = /home/kaushik/fftw-new/lib/libfftw3f.so.3
 (0x7f2e7a6e2000)
 libmpi.so.1 = /usr/local/lib/libmpi.so.1 (0x7f2e7a34)
 libnsl.so.1 = /lib/libnsl.so.1 (0x7f2e7a11b000)
 libm.so.6 = /lib/libm.so.6 (0x7f2e79e99000)
 libdl.so.2 = /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x7f2e79c95000)
 libnuma.so.1 = /usr/lib/libnuma.so.1 (0x7f2e79a8c000)
 librt.so.1 = /lib/librt.so.1 (0x7f2e79884000)
 libutil.so.1 = /lib/libutil.so.1 (0x7f2e79681000)
 libpthread.so.0 = /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x7f2e79464000)
 libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x7f2e79102000)
 libmpi.so.0 = /usr/lib/libmpi.so.0 (0x7f2e78e52000)
 /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x7f2e7a9f4000)
 libopen-rte.so.0 = /usr/lib/libopen-rte.so.0 (0x7f2e78c05000)
 libopen-pal.so.0 = /usr/lib/libopen-pal.so.0 (0x7f2e789b)


 However, with 4.6.2, when I install using:

 cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/home/kaushik/gromacs_executable/gromacs-mpi
 -DGMX_THREADS=DGMX_X11=OFF -DGMX_MPI=ON
 -DCMAKE_PREFIX_PATH=/home/kaushik/fftw-new -DGMX_DEFAULT_SUFFIX=OFF
 -DMPI_INCLUDE_PATH=/usr/local/include -DMPI_COMPILER=/usr/local/bin/mpicxx


cmake -DCMAKE_C_COMPILER=/usr/local/bin/mpicc should Just Work.

its now pointing to the wrong MPI libraries causing the crash with the
 mpirun:

 ldd mdrun:
 linux-vdso.so.1 =  (0x7fffba9ff000)
 libfftw3f.so.3 = /home/kaushik/fftw-new/lib/libfftw3f.so.3
 (0x7f32c6785000)
 libmpi_cxx.so.0 = /usr/lib/libmpi_cxx.so.0 (0x7f32c655e000)
 libmpi.so.0 = /usr/lib/libmpi.so.0 (0x7f32c62ae000)
 libdl.so.2 = /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x7f32c60aa000)
 libm.so.6 = /lib/libm.so.6 (0x7f32c5e27000)
 libnuma.so.1 = /usr/lib/libnuma.so.1 (0x7f32c5c1f000)
 librt.so.1 = /lib/librt.so.1 (0x7f32c5a17000)
 libnsl.so.1 = /lib/libnsl.so.1 (0x7f32c57fe000)
 libutil.so.1 = /lib/libutil.so.1 (0x7f32c55fb000)
 libpthread.so.0 = /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x7f32c53df000)
 libgomp.so.1 = /usr/local/lib64/libgomp.so.1 (0x7f32c51d)
 libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x7f32c4e6e000)
 libstdc++.so.6 = /usr/local/lib64/libstdc++.so.6
 (0x7f32c4b67000)
 libgcc_s.so.1 = /usr/local/lib64/libgcc_s.so.1
 (0x7f32c4951000)
 libopen-rte.so.0 = /usr/lib/libopen-rte.so.0 (0x7f32c4705000)
 /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x7f32c6a97000)
 libopen-pal.so.0 = /usr/lib/libopen-pal.so.0 (0x7f32c44af000)


 Is this a potential bug, as in the gromacs compilation is picking up the
 /usr/lib/ and /usr/include (old MPI locations) despite manually specifying
 it using -DMPI_INCLUDE, etc?


Perhaps, but it is not yet clear where the problem lies. In cmake, we try
to compile an MPI test program with the compiler you've made available, and
just use that compiler if it works. This combines nicely with modern MPI
wrapper compilers, hence the above suggestion. Otherwise, in cmake we try
to do some detection, and that presumably leads to your symptoms. It might
be possible to work around that by setting CMAKE_PREFIX_PATH=/usr/local, so
that the detection finds the version you want.

Mark
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[gmx-users] charmm27 in gromacs- grompp error

2013-06-12 Thread Revthi Sanker
Dear all,
I am using charmm27 forcefield in gromacs for performing all atom simulations 
(system comprising of DOPC, cholesteryl ester and protein) .I got the itp file 
for dopc from the lipid book in which they have mentioned #include 
charmm27.ff/ffbonded.itp and  charmm27.ff/ffnonbonded.itp to source to 
these for the parameters of each bond, angle dihedral etc based on the atom 
types instead of mentioning explicitly each numerical value from the gromacs 
directory.But it could not read the file and displayed:

Syntax error - File ffbonded.itp, line 2 Last line read: '[ atomtypes ]' 
Invalid order for directive defaults

 When I commented those lines and again ran grompp, it generated the following 
error:
  No default Angle types
No default Ryckaert-Bell. types.

Kindly suggest me in this issue.

Earnestly awaiting a reply,

Revathi
​M.S. Research Scholar
Indian Institute Of Technology, Madras
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Re: [gmx-users] charmm27 in gromacs- grompp error

2013-06-12 Thread Mark Abraham
Sounds like either you're following wrong instructions, or not following
them correctly. Please double check and/or take up the issue with the
author.

Mark


On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Revthi Sanker revthi.san...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Dear all,
 I am using charmm27 forcefield in gromacs for performing all atom
 simulations (system comprising of DOPC, cholesteryl ester and protein) .I
 got the itp file for dopc from the lipid book in which they have mentioned
 #include charmm27.ff/ffbonded.itp and  charmm27.ff/ffnonbonded.itp to
 source to these for the parameters of each bond, angle dihedral etc based
 on the atom types instead of mentioning explicitly each numerical value
 from the gromacs directory.But it could not read the file and displayed:

 Syntax error - File ffbonded.itp, line 2 Last line read: '[ atomtypes ]'
 Invalid order for directive defaults

  When I commented those lines and again ran grompp, it generated the
 following error:
   No default Angle types
 No default Ryckaert-Bell. types.

 Kindly suggest me in this issue.

 Earnestly awaiting a reply,

 Revathi
 M.S. Research Scholar
 Indian Institute Of Technology, Madras
 India

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[gmx-users] Details of umbrella sampling simulation

2013-06-12 Thread Kieu Thu Nguyen
Dear users,

What is the algorithm of umbrella sampling simulation ? And can anyone who
had experience in this explain pulling force to me  ?

Thankul and regards,

~Thu
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[gmx-users] Quartic Angle

2013-06-12 Thread Steven Neumann
Dear Gmx Users,

I run a simulation with quartic angle potential. These function has two
minima at 100 at 120 degrees. However, seems from my simulation that it is
not applied... all angles are around 180 degrees and my chain is a line
chain (straight).

I have in my topology

[ angles ]
; i  j  k funct th0  C0  C1  C2  C3  C4
123601389.5-46.90530.59033  -0.00328291
0.0680894

in the log file the quartic potential is shown every time. Can it be the
reason of th0 to be zero?

Steven
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[gmx-users] Re: Free Energy Calculations in Gromacs

2013-06-12 Thread JW Gibbs
Thanks Justin and Professor Shirts. The gmxdump on the resulting tpr did
indeed solve a lot of my problems. Thanks again.




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[gmx-users] Re: Details of umbrella sampling simulation

2013-06-12 Thread JW Gibbs
Hi,

Please see the following links:

http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin/gmx-tutorials/umbrella/

http://wires.wiley.com/WileyCDA/WiresArticle/wisId-WCMS66.html

I think you will understand the concept of the pulling force once you go
through either of the links. 
It's basically the force to restraint a particular collective variable
around a certain value for sampling around that region in phase space.



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Re: [gmx-users] stay at some temperature during annealing

2013-06-12 Thread mu xiaojia
Hi Guys, sorry I replay so late,
the annealing_npoints should be 4 4 4, which I incorrectly defined to 3 3 3.
the problem solved.

Thanks! Justin


On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 6:36 AM, Dr. Vitaly Chaban vvcha...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:

 
 
  On 6/11/13 1:11 AM, mu xiaojia wrote:
 
  Hi guys,
 
  I am using simulated annealing for my protein+water+Ion system, I tried
 to
  let the system stay at some temperature for a while, e.g.: stay at 600k
  from 3000ps to 1 ps, then gradually cool it down to 298k, so my mdp
 is
  like:
 
  annealing_time = 0 3000 1 2 0 3000 1 2 0 3000 1
 2
  annealing_temp = 298 600 600 298 298 600 600 298  298 600 600 298
 
 
  however, error message is:
 
  Found 12 annealing_time values, wanter 9
 
  apparently, the 600 600 does not work, does anyone have any
 suggestion,
  or I could only separate the simulation? Thanks very much!
 
 


 There is a problem with the number of temperature coupling groups. You have
 defined less than you expect, as the program requests only 9 values. So,
 refer to the number of points to T annealing, which you do not list here.


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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Enthalpy Confusion

2013-06-12 Thread David van der Spoel

On 2013-06-11 23:31, Jeffery Perkins wrote:

or should i be doing  U+V*ref_p  = H?



More specifically, U + V*ref_p = H



H isn't really meaningful thing.  I mean, you can define something
such that H* = H, but that's not really thermodynamics.


sorry I always have issues deciding how to talk about this stuff, so thanks
for putting up with my terrible notation =)


example system gives H = -1168 kJ/mol and i find H = -725 kJ/mol
either



Interesting.  What material at what phase conditions?  For liquids,
the PV contribution should be very small.


I hadn't really thought about that... but the system is a monatomic
Lennard-Jones particle (uncharged sigma = 0.35 nm epsilon = 2 kJ/mol mass =
40 amu) which should be a liquid at the conditions I was looking at, P=1000
bar, T = 300 K using phase diagram in: Equation of state for the
Lennard-Jones fluid, J. J. Nicolas et al., MOLECULAR PHYSICS, 1979, VOL. 37,
No. 5, 1429-1454

the U is -1600 and the pV is 880 when manually done, around 400 from
g_energy

Here's the code:
/* This is pV (in kJ/mol).  The pressure is the reference 
pressure,

   not the instantaneous pressure */
pv = vol*md-ref_p/PRESFAC;

add_ebin(md-ebin, md-ipv, 1, pv, bSum);
enthalpy = pv + enerd-term[F_ETOT];

What is your volume?
What is Etot?

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Re: [gmx-users] Quartic Angle

2013-06-12 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 6/12/13 10:01 AM, Steven Neumann wrote:

Dear Gmx Users,

I run a simulation with quartic angle potential. These function has two
minima at 100 at 120 degrees. However, seems from my simulation that it is
not applied... all angles are around 180 degrees and my chain is a line
chain (straight).

I have in my topology

[ angles ]
; i  j  k funct th0  C0  C1  C2  C3  C4
123601389.5-46.90530.59033  -0.00328291
0.0680894

in the log file the quartic potential is shown every time. Can it be the
reason of th0 to be zero?



That's what I'd suspect.

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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Details of umbrella sampling simulation

2013-06-12 Thread Kieu Thu Nguyen
Thank JW so much :-)


On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 10:30 PM, JW Gibbs hanniballecte...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,

 Please see the following links:


 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin/gmx-tutorials/umbrella/

 http://wires.wiley.com/WileyCDA/WiresArticle/wisId-WCMS66.html

 I think you will understand the concept of the pulling force once you go
 through either of the links.
 It's basically the force to restraint a particular collective variable
 around a certain value for sampling around that region in phase space.



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[gmx-users] Fw: charmm27 in gromacs- grompp error

2013-06-12 Thread Revthi Sanker



Dear all,
I am using charmm27 forcefield in gromacs for performing all atom simulations 
(system comprising of DOPC, cholesteryl ester and protein) .I got the itp file 
for dopc from the lipid book in which they have mentioned #include 
charmm27.ff/ffbonded.itp and  charmm27.ff/ffnonbonded.itp to source to 
these for the parameters of each bond, angle dihedral etc based on the atom 
types instead of mentioning explicitly each numerical value from the gromacs 
directory.But it could not read the file and displayed:

Syntax error - File ffbonded.itp, line 2 Last line read: '[ atomtypes ]' 
Invalid order for directive defaults

 When I commented those lines and again ran grompp, it generated the following 
error:
  No default Angle types
No default Ryckaert-Bell. types.

Kindly suggest me in this
 issue.

Earnestly awaiting a reply,

Revathi
​M.S. Research Scholar
Indian Institute Of Technology, Madras
India
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