Re: [gmx-users] LINCS Constraints - all-bonds or h-bonds?

2013-08-16 Thread Erik Marklund
I often use 4 fs with all-bonds and virtual sites, especially if lacking 
sampling is a greater source of error than the kinetic energy being slightly 
off.

Erik
 
On 15 Aug 2013, at 20:58, Michael Shirts mrshi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I don't go beyond 2 fs with either all- bonds or h-bonds. Things like kinetic 
 energy start being subtly off.
 
 H-bonds has less chance of failing with large numbers of constraints- less 
 iteration required, especially if bond system cross parallelization 
 boundaries.
 
 If your molecules are  10 atoms, it probably doesn't matter either way.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 15, 2013, at 9:11, Barnett, James W. jbarn...@tulane.edu wrote:
 
 Searching through this mailing list it seems like some have stated that 
 with a 2 fs timestep (dt=0.002), constraints=h-bonds is fine in general.
 
 The questions I have are:
 
 1) What are some personal opinions on when it is ok to switch to h-bonds 
  from all-bonds for LINCS constraints? Is 2 fs and h-bonds a general 
 practice?
 
 2) Also, if typically 2 fs and h-bonds are ok, what time-step do users 
  (or you personally) generally go to with all-bonds? 
 
 I am speaking generally here of course. Thanks for your responses.
 
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Re: [gmx-users] meaning of results of g_hbond -ac

2013-07-18 Thread Erik Marklund
* Time
* Ac(hbond) with correction for the fact that a finite system is being 
simulated.
* Ac(hbond) without correction
* Cross correlation between hbonds and contacts (see the papers by 
LuzarChandler and van der Spoel that are mentioned in the stdout from g_hbond)
* Derivative of second column.

On 18 Jul 2013, at 04:51, Wu Chaofu xiaowu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear gmxers,
 By running the command g_hbond -ac, a resulting .xvg file is generated,
 which is attached below. In that file, there are five columns. I guess
 that, the first column is time, the second the HB autocorrelation function.
 But what are the other columns denoted by s1, s2, s3? Thanks a lot for any
 reply.
 Yours sincerely,
 Chaofu Wu
 
 # This file was created Wed Jul 17 09:49:34 2013
 # by the following command:
 # g_hbond -f iconf.xtc -s conf.tpr -n -ac ihbac2.xvg
 #
 # g_hbond is part of G R O M A C S:
 #
 # GROtesk MACabre and Sinister
 #
 @title Hydrogen Bond Autocorrelation
 @xaxis  label Time (ps)
 @yaxis  label C(t)
 @TYPE xy
 @ view 0.15, 0.15, 0.75, 0.85
 @ legend on
 @ legend box on
 @ legend loctype view
 @ legend 0.78, 0.8
 @ legend length 2
 @ s0 legend Ac\sfin sys\v{}\z{}(t)
 @ s1 legend Ac(t)
 @ s2 legend Cc\scontact,hb\v{}\z{}(t)
 @ s3 legend -dAc\sfs\v{}\z{}/dt
 0   1   1  -5.79228e-110.902311
 1   0.09955770.1001860.1345570.455234
 2   0.0895326   0.09016760.126435  0.00815676
 3   0.0832442   0.08388360.123311  0.00541426
 4   0.0787041   0.07934660.117936  0.00376486
 5   0.0757145   0.07635910.116489  0.00198866
 6   0.0747267   0.07537210.112655  0.00177937
 7   0.0721557   0.07280290.109565  0.00255146
 8   0.0696238   0.07027270.107288  0.00241577
 9   0.0673242   0.06797470.106287  0.00157028
10   0.0664832   0.06713430.104746   0.0014926
110.064339   0.06499160.101947  0.00148105
12   0.0635211   0.0641743   0.0991141  0.00131835
13   0.0617023   0.06235670.101322  0.00147757
140.060566   0.0612212   0.0965892  0.000719808
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Re: [gmx-users] UMBRELLA SAMPLING

2013-07-02 Thread Erik Marklund
It's just the xvv file. g_wham uses the letter 'z' to denote the reaction 
coordinate.

Erik

On 2 Jul 2013, at 11:32, battis...@libero.it wrote:

 
 
 
 
 
 
 Dear users and experts
 
 I'm doing an umbrella-samplig calculation to obtain the PMF when two 
 structure (A and B) are at various X distances.
 I setted my md-umbrella.mdp file as in follows:
 
 
 ; COM PULLING
 ; Pull type: no, umbrella, constraint or constant_force
 pull = umbrella
 pull_geometry= distance
 pull_dim = Y N N
 pull_start   = yes
 pull_nstxout = 1000
 pull_nstfout = 1000
 ; Number of pull groups
 pull_ngroups = 1
 pull_group0  = A
 pull_group1  = B
 pull_init1   = 0
 pull_rate1   = 0.0
 pull_k1  = 1000
 pull_kB1 = 1000
 
 
 but when I run the program g_wham:
 
 g_wham -it tpr-files.dat -if pullf-files.dat -o profile.xvg -hist histo.xvg
 
 
 the profile I obtain is respect to the z coordinate (PMF as a function of z).
 
 My question is:  is this only a problem of xvg text, or the PMF is 
 effectively calculated with respect to the z variable, although I selected
 
 pull_dim = Y N N?
 
 
 Thank you very much
 
 
 Anna
 
 
 
 
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Re: [gmx-users] autocorrelation output g_hbond

2013-06-17 Thread Erik Marklund
Hi,

Yes, the forward and backward rate constants are for hydrogen-bond breaking and 
reforming. You seem to have too poor statistics to draw conclusions about the 
backward rate, however. You probably need to simulate longer.

Erik

On 15 Jun 2013, at 00:38, learnmd joinforfun8...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I have run a 5 ns simulation with a small protein in water [SPCE]. I am
 interested in the rate of breakage (sense of how quickly / slowly hbonds are
 broken and formed) of hbonds between protein and solvent. I ran g_hbond -ac
 for the trajectory and received the following output:
 
 Normalization for c(t) = 0.0204961 for gh(t) = 4.55478e-07
 Hydrogen bond thermodynamics at T = 298.15 K
 Fitting parameters chi^2 =  0.0335188
 Q =  0
 --
 Type  Rate (1/ps) Time (ps)  DG (kJ/mol)  Chi^2
 Forward 0.022 46.303  14.035   0.0335188
 Backward   -0.080-12.447-666.000
 One-way 0.068 14.603  11.175
 Integral0.020 48.944  14.173
 Relaxation  0.052 19.211  11.854
 
 My question is that the 46 ps that is shown for forward can be interpreted
 in the sense that I have described above?  Or am I missing the point,
 completely. I am grateful for any pointers. 
 
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Re: [gmx-users] autocorrelation output g_hbond

2013-06-17 Thread Erik Marklund
…or the hydrogen-bond kinetics of your system may not fit the Luzar-Chandler 
model for whatever reason.

Erik

On 17 Jun 2013, at 13:22, Erik Marklund er...@xray.bmc.uu.se wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Yes, the forward and backward rate constants are for hydrogen-bond breaking 
 and reforming. You seem to have too poor statistics to draw conclusions about 
 the backward rate, however. You probably need to simulate longer.
 
 Erik
 
 On 15 Jun 2013, at 00:38, learnmd joinforfun8...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I have run a 5 ns simulation with a small protein in water [SPCE]. I am
 interested in the rate of breakage (sense of how quickly / slowly hbonds are
 broken and formed) of hbonds between protein and solvent. I ran g_hbond -ac
 for the trajectory and received the following output:
 
 Normalization for c(t) = 0.0204961 for gh(t) = 4.55478e-07
 Hydrogen bond thermodynamics at T = 298.15 K
 Fitting parameters chi^2 =  0.0335188
 Q =  0
 --
 Type  Rate (1/ps) Time (ps)  DG (kJ/mol)  Chi^2
 Forward 0.022 46.303  14.035   0.0335188
 Backward   -0.080-12.447-666.000
 One-way 0.068 14.603  11.175
 Integral0.020 48.944  14.173
 Relaxation  0.052 19.211  11.854
 
 My question is that the 46 ps that is shown for forward can be interpreted
 in the sense that I have described above?  Or am I missing the point,
 completely. I am grateful for any pointers. 
 
 Thanks
 
 
 
 
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Re: [gmx-users] dssp works fine, but do_dssp gives fatal error

2013-06-12 Thread Erik Marklund
Hi,

Search the mailing list. This problem and its solution has been repeatedly 
discussed.

Erik

On 12 Jun 2013, at 10:31, Nikunj Maheshwari nixcrazyfor...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear all,
 
 I installed dssp (Version 2.0.4) and it works perfect on a .pdb file.
 I am trying to use it for do_dssp command but get the following error each
 time:
 
 Fatal error:
 Failed to execute command: /usr/local/bin/dssp -na ddtmi68v ddwLuK68 
 /dev/null 2 /dev/null
 
 
 Is there any way to rectify it?
 
 Thanks.
 Nikunj
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Re: [gmx-users] dssp works fine, but do_dssp gives fatal error

2013-06-12 Thread Erik Marklund
Search again. The syntax for invoking dssp changed at some point and it took a 
while before do_dssp adapted to that. If your do_dssp is lacking the -ver 
option then I'm quite confident that it uses the old syntax, which doesn't work 
with the newer versions (v. 2.0+ I think) of dssp.

Erik
 
On 12 Jun 2013, at 11:17, Nikunj Maheshwari nixcrazyfor...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes I did searched. But for most people, there were issues regarding the
 path or wrong DSSP.
 DSSP runs for me, but do_dssp does not.
 
 
 On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Erik Marklund er...@xray.bmc.uu.se wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Search the mailing list. This problem and its solution has been repeatedly
 discussed.
 
 Erik
 
 On 12 Jun 2013, at 10:31, Nikunj Maheshwari nixcrazyfor...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Dear all,
 
 I installed dssp (Version 2.0.4) and it works perfect on a .pdb file.
 I am trying to use it for do_dssp command but get the following error
 each
 time:
 
 Fatal error:
 Failed to execute command: /usr/local/bin/dssp -na ddtmi68v ddwLuK68 
 /dev/null 2 /dev/null
 
 
 Is there any way to rectify it?
 
 Thanks.
 Nikunj
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Re: [gmx-users] dssp works fine, but do_dssp gives fatal error

2013-06-12 Thread Erik Marklund
You have (at least) two easy options.

1) Install old_dssp that is available through the dssp web page.  
2) Install a newer version of gromacs than you have at the moment. What version 
do you currently use?

Erik

On 12 Jun 2013, at 12:56, Nikunj Maheshwari nixcrazyfor...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes I checked. do_dssp has no -ver option.
 I also found out this link
 
 https://gerrit.gromacs.org/#/c/687/
 
 but dont know how to install/use it.
 
 Or maybe I can install DsspOld and see?
 
 
 
 On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Erik Marklund er...@xray.bmc.uu.se wrote:
 
 Search again. The syntax for invoking dssp changed at some point and it
 took a while before do_dssp adapted to that. If your do_dssp is lacking the
 -ver option then I'm quite confident that it uses the old syntax, which
 doesn't work with the newer versions (v. 2.0+ I think) of dssp.
 
 Erik
 
 On 12 Jun 2013, at 11:17, Nikunj Maheshwari nixcrazyfor...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Yes I did searched. But for most people, there were issues regarding the
 path or wrong DSSP.
 DSSP runs for me, but do_dssp does not.
 
 
 On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Erik Marklund er...@xray.bmc.uu.se
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Search the mailing list. This problem and its solution has been
 repeatedly
 discussed.
 
 Erik
 
 On 12 Jun 2013, at 10:31, Nikunj Maheshwari nixcrazyfor...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Dear all,
 
 I installed dssp (Version 2.0.4) and it works perfect on a .pdb file.
 I am trying to use it for do_dssp command but get the following error
 each
 time:
 
 Fatal error:
 Failed to execute command: /usr/local/bin/dssp -na ddtmi68v ddwLuK68 
 /dev/null 2 /dev/null
 
 
 Is there any way to rectify it?
 
 Thanks.
 Nikunj
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Re: [gmx-users] segemntation fault after run do_dssp

2013-06-07 Thread Erik Marklund
HI,

What version of gromacs is this? DSSP changed its syntax a while back and we 
had to adjust do_dssp accordingly. You may have a mismatch between gromacs and 
dssp versions.

Erik

On 7 Jun 2013, at 08:42, Nur Syafiqah Abdul Ghani pqah...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi All,
 
 I already done the MD production so I want to analyse the helical
 structure of my protein by using do_dssp program.The command is like
 below :
 
 do_dssp -s md_water50.tpr -f md_water50.trr -n mainchain.ndx -sc
 dssp_scount.xvg -a dssp_area.xvg -ta dssp_totarea.xvg -aa
 dssp_averarea.xvg
 
 but after i run the command the result show like :
 
 Reading file md_water50.tpr, VERSION 4.5.5 (double precision)
 Reading file md_water50.tpr, VERSION 4.5.5 (double precision)
 Segmentation fault (core dumped)
 
 
 I already install the dssp program from
 ftp://ftp.cmbi.ru.nl/pub/software/dssp/ and follow the instruction as
 shown there but it seems that nothing happened..I already gedit the
 .bashrc for dssp.
 
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 Department of Chemistry,
 Faculty of Science,
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Re: [gmx-users] segemntation fault after run do_dssp

2013-06-07 Thread Erik Marklund
Hi,

It may very well be. Here's the red mine issue 
http://redmine.gromacs.org/issues/891. If there's a -ver option for do_dssp 
then it's capable of the new syntax. If not then it assumes the old syntax. If 
you can't install a newer version of gromacs there is the option to install 
old_dssp which is available through the dssp webpage.

Erik

On 7 Jun 2013, at 10:20, shika pqah...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Eric,
 
 I'm using gromacs 4.5.5.
 Is it the version is different for dssp?
 
 Thanks
 
 On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 3:41 AM, Erik Marklund [via GROMACS]
 ml-node+s5086n5008885...@n6.nabble.com wrote:
 HI,
 
 What version of gromacs is this? DSSP changed its syntax a while back and we
 had to adjust do_dssp accordingly. You may have a mismatch between gromacs
 and dssp versions.
 
 Erik
 
 On 7 Jun 2013, at 08:42, Nur Syafiqah Abdul Ghani [hidden email] wrote:
 
 Hi All,
 
 I already done the MD production so I want to analyse the helical
 structure of my protein by using do_dssp program.The command is like
 below :
 
 do_dssp -s md_water50.tpr -f md_water50.trr -n mainchain.ndx -sc
 dssp_scount.xvg -a dssp_area.xvg -ta dssp_totarea.xvg -aa
 dssp_averarea.xvg
 
 but after i run the command the result show like :
 
 Reading file md_water50.tpr, VERSION 4.5.5 (double precision)
 Reading file md_water50.tpr, VERSION 4.5.5 (double precision)
 Segmentation fault (core dumped)
 
 
 I already install the dssp program from
 ftp://ftp.cmbi.ru.nl/pub/software/dssp/ and follow the instruction as
 shown there but it seems that nothing happened..I already gedit the
 .bashrc for dssp.
 
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Re: [gmx-users] Vritual Sites and simulation time-step

2013-06-03 Thread Erik Marklund
Hi James,

Not related to the integration stability as such, but since the vsites affect 
the hydrogens by definition perhaps g_hbond can reveal systematic differences 
between simulations with and without vsites. I believe Feenstra et al did this 
in the paper describing vsites in the first place.

Erik

On 3 Jun 2013, at 14:03, James Starlight jmsstarli...@gmail.com wrote:

 Mark,
 
 I've performed 50 ns simulation of water-soluble protein with and without
 VS. As the consequence I've observed similar behavior of both systems in
 case of secondfary structure conservation as well as overal degree of
 conformational dynamics. Also I didnt observed any fluctuation in energy
 and temperature (using SD as the thermostat and 2ps coupling).  Is there
 any other Gromacs build-in tools on what I should paid more attention
 during investigation stability of the system with VS ?
 
 
 James
 
 2013/6/2 Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.com
 
 On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 4:56 PM, James Starlight jmsstarli...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Mark,
 
 could you also provide me with some examples when usage of VS could give
 artifacts in simulations ?
 
 
 I don't know of any particular examples. This kind of thing tends to be
 tested ad hoc - how far can the time step be pushed and still reproduce
 some relevant observable? See GROMACS generalized Born paper. There is
 certainly some scope for people to investigate and publish such findings.
 See, for example, recent publications by Michael Shirts.
 
 In particular I'm interesting in usage of VS on hydrogens with membrane
 proteins.
 
 
 I really don't know anything there :-) I imagine people often use a
 united-atom lipid for a reason.
 
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Re: [gmx-users] About Checkpoint error in gromacs 4.6

2013-06-01 Thread Erik Marklund
How about running with -noappend?

On 1 Jun 2013, at 13:59, vidhya sankar scvsankar_...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Dear Justin Thank you for your previuos reply
   I am 
 using gromacs 4.6 AMD 8 core processor
 
 When I run restart My run  from the Checkpoint file using the following error
 
 ./mdrun_d  -s CNTPEPRSOLNPT.tpr  -cpi CNTPEPRSOLNPT_prev.cpt  -v -nt 8 
 -deffnm CNTPEPRSOLNPT -append
 
 
 
 The original run wrote a file called 'CNTPEPRSOLNPT.trr' which is larger than 
 2 GB, but mdrun did not support large file offsets. Can not append. Run mdrun 
 with -noappend
 
 How to solve this error?
 Thnaks In ADVANCE 
 
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Re: [gmx-users] About Compiler Option

2013-05-30 Thread Erik Marklund
gcc is probably still your old version. The new one would probably be called 
gcc-4.7 or similar.

Erik
 
On 30 May 2013, at 15:15, vidhya sankar scvsankar_...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Dear Justin and other gromacs users ,
 Thank you 
 for your Previous reply
 I  Have AMD Block Edition FX8350 Processor  Also I have Ubuntu 10.04 OS 
 
 
 
 Using 8 MPI threads
 Compiled acceleration: SSE4.1 (Gromacs could use AVX_128_FMA on this machine, 
 which is better)
 
 As you mailed me for the aforesaid about performance
 I want to Ugrade gcc version 4.7.2
 already i had version gcc 4.4.3 When I want to Upgrade
  
 But Though  I give the following Commands
 
 
 add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-toolchain-r/test
 apt-get update
 
 apt-get install gcc-4.7
   it has not been updated
 this is confirmed When i check gcc version in terminal 
 
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Re: [gmx-users] Have your ever got a real NVE simulation (good energy conservation) in gromacs?

2013-05-24 Thread Erik Marklund
Hi,

I have achieved good energy conservation in NVE simulations. This was single 
proteins in the gas phase, using infinite cut-offs, constraints applied to 
hydrogens, 0.5 fs or 1.0 fs time steps, double precision and virtual sites if 
I'm not mistaken. We had problems with energy conservation for the first 
publication (Patriksson et al 2007, Biochemistry. The methods section states 
1.0 fs, but that's a typo for we used 0.5 fs) for 1.0 fs time steps. For a 
second publication (Marklund et al 2009, PCCP) 1.0 fs worked fine, using a 
later gromacs version. In the first case we used SHAKE and in the later LINCS I 
think.

Hope that helps

Erik

On 23 May 2013, at 23:59, cyberjhon cyberj...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Hi Guys
 
 I have been trying by all means to get a real good Energy conservation in
 NVE simulations using gromacs
 but it has been almost impossible for me. 
 I have tried many different combinations of Coulomb and VdW parameters and
 changed the cut off radius and nothing.
 1. Have you ever obtained energy conservation in Gromacs?
 2. Under what conditions ? for what system? 
 2. Do you have a set of parameters that works to obtain energy conservation?
 if you can share with me the mdp file, I will appreciate it.
 My system is Human Papiloma Virus  virus-like particle T=1 inmersed in SPC
 water.
 
 Thanks
 
 John Michael Espinsoa Duran
 
 
 
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Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond

2013-05-24 Thread Erik Marklund
Hi,

Just to clarify: The third column are the number of acceptor-donor pairs that 
fulfil the distance criterion but not the angle criterion.

Erik

On 24 May 2013, at 09:06, CHEN Pan evan.pan.c...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Maggin,
 The middle column is the total number of hydrogen bonds in your system
 under the definition of the hydrogen bonds criteria you have defined (here
 you used the default value). The third column is the number of
 acceptor-donor paris in the system. The first column is the simulation
 time, your trajectory file are saved every 2 ps right?
 If you use xmgrace bovin_hnum.xvg, you can easily find what's the meaning
 of the second and third column.
 
 Pan
 
 2013/5/24 maggin maggin.c...@gmail.com
 
 # This file was created Fri May 24 13:03:14 2013
 # by the following command:
 # g_hbond -f traj_all_md.trr -s md_0_1_next1.tpr -num bovin_hnum.xvg
 #
 # g_hbond is part of G R O M A C S:
 #
 # Green Red Orange Magenta Azure Cyan Skyblue
 #
 @title Hydrogen Bonds
 @xaxis  label Time (ps)
 @yaxis  label Number
 @TYPE xy
 @ view 0.15, 0.15, 0.75, 0.85
 @ legend on
 @ legend box on
 @ legend loctype view
 @ legend 0.78, 0.8
 @ legend length 2
 @ s0 legend Hydrogen bonds
 @ s1 legend Pairs within 0.35 nm
 0  74 517
 2  73 515
 4  69 515
 6  69 529
 8  78 525
10  74 517
12  68 516
14  68 524
16  71 520
   
 hi, anybody can tell me at here if Hydrogen bonds Refers to the middle
 column: 74,73,69,69,78,74,68,68,71
 
 Thank you !
 
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Re: [gmx-users] the -dist flag of g_hbond tool

2013-05-24 Thread Erik Marklund
Hi,

See below

On 24 May 2013, at 11:45, CHEN Pan evan.pan.c...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Gromacs users,
 
 I am confused about the g_hbond tools.
 
 1) When I use -dist to get the distribution of hydrogen bonding distance,
 I found that the summation of the population is always 200 (the y-column
 below). I am not sure if it's was done with normalization or not, if yes,
 the summation should be one, if no, then the summation should equals to the
 total number of the hydrogen bonds, but here the hbnum.xvg shows me I
 have 440 hydrogen bonds. Why here is always 200, not matter what types of
 hydrogen bonds.

How many donors do you have, and how many acceptors?

 
 2) In my system, there are several different types of hydrogen bonds, such
 as intra-chain and inter-chain or intra-sheet and inter-sheet hydrogen
 bonds. Is there any smart way to separately calculate those hydrogen
 bonds? By using the index.ndx file, I could separate the intra-chain
 hydrogen bonds, then I can get the inter-chain ones using the total one
 minus the intra-chain one. It may be possible to do the same for the
 intra-sheet and the inter-sheet. However, this strategy seems complex.
 Did anybody have experience or ideas for this problem?
 
 Pan
 
 # This file was created Fri May 24 11:06:01 2013
 # by the following command:
 # g_hbond -f /Users/panchen/gromacs.file/ch1-56/alpha/md-a-re.xtc -s
 /Users/panchen/gromacs.file/ch1-56/alpha/md-a.tpr -n ../ful.ndx -b 11000 -e
 16000 -a 30 -r 0.35 -da -num -hbn -ang -dist -g
 #
 # g_hbond is part of G R O M A C S:
 #
 # Gromacs Runs One Microsecond At Cannonball Speeds
 #
 @title Hydrogen Bond Distribution
 @xaxis  label Hydrogen - Acceptor Distance (nm)
 @yaxis  label 
 @TYPE xy
0.0025  0
0.0075  0
0.0125  0
0.0175  0
0.0225  0
0.0275  0
0.0325  0
0.0375  0
0.0425  0
0.0475  0
0.0525  0
0.0575  0
0.0625  0
0.0675  0
0.0725  0
0.0775  0
0.0825  0
0.0875  0
0.0925  0
0.0975  0
0.1025  0
0.1075  0
0.1125  0
0.1175  0
0.1225  0
0.1275  0
0.1325  0
0.1375  0
0.1425  0
0.1475  0
0.1525  0
0.1575  0
0.1625  0
0.1675  0
0.1725  0
0.1775  0
0.1825  0
0.1875  0
0.1925  0
0.1975  0
0.2025  0
0.2075  0
0.2125  0
0.2175  0
0.2225  0
0.2275  0
0.2325 0.00538632
0.2375   0.125501
0.24251.23562
0.24756.08295
0.252516.4279
0.257528.6597
0.262536.0576
0.2675 35.154
0.272528.1539
0.277519.8073
0.282512.4602
0.28757.23832
0.29254.06577
0.29752.15794
0.30251.14423
0.3075   0.588366
0.3125   0.310611
0.3175   0.163206
0.3225  0.0772039
0.3275  0.0411156
0.3325  0.0210066
0.3375  0.0113113
0.3425 0.00574541
0.3475 0.00502723
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Re: [gmx-users] the -dist flag of g_hbond tool

2013-05-24 Thread Erik Marklund
Hm. That is peculiar. The source code has the answer of course. I can have a 
look next week to see why that is.

Erik

On 24 May 2013, at 14:11, CHEN Pan evan.pan.c...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I have 512 donors and 1024 acceptors.
 
 I have just tested g_hbond with my standard crystal structure, which I
 should get 512 hydrogen bonds. And the output hbnum.xvg does show 512
 hydrogen bonds, which is correct. But the hbdist.xvg file still shows
 that the summation of population is 200.
 
 
 2013/5/24 Erik Marklund er...@xray.bmc.uu.se
 
 Hi,
 
 See below
 
 On 24 May 2013, at 11:45, CHEN Pan evan.pan.c...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Dear Gromacs users,
 
 I am confused about the g_hbond tools.
 
 1) When I use -dist to get the distribution of hydrogen bonding
 distance,
 I found that the summation of the population is always 200 (the y-column
 below). I am not sure if it's was done with normalization or not, if yes,
 the summation should be one, if no, then the summation should equals to
 the
 total number of the hydrogen bonds, but here the hbnum.xvg shows me I
 have 440 hydrogen bonds. Why here is always 200, not matter what types of
 hydrogen bonds.
 
 How many donors do you have, and how many acceptors?
 
 
 2) In my system, there are several different types of hydrogen bonds,
 such
 as intra-chain and inter-chain or intra-sheet and inter-sheet hydrogen
 bonds. Is there any smart way to separately calculate those hydrogen
 bonds? By using the index.ndx file, I could separate the intra-chain
 hydrogen bonds, then I can get the inter-chain ones using the total one
 minus the intra-chain one. It may be possible to do the same for the
 intra-sheet and the inter-sheet. However, this strategy seems complex.
 Did anybody have experience or ideas for this problem?
 
 Pan
 
 # This file was created Fri May 24 11:06:01 2013
 # by the following command:
 # g_hbond -f /Users/panchen/gromacs.file/ch1-56/alpha/md-a-re.xtc -s
 /Users/panchen/gromacs.file/ch1-56/alpha/md-a.tpr -n ../ful.ndx -b 11000
 -e
 16000 -a 30 -r 0.35 -da -num -hbn -ang -dist -g
 #
 # g_hbond is part of G R O M A C S:
 #
 # Gromacs Runs One Microsecond At Cannonball Speeds
 #
 @title Hydrogen Bond Distribution
 @xaxis  label Hydrogen - Acceptor Distance (nm)
 @yaxis  label 
 @TYPE xy
   0.0025  0
   0.0075  0
   0.0125  0
   0.0175  0
   0.0225  0
   0.0275  0
   0.0325  0
   0.0375  0
   0.0425  0
   0.0475  0
   0.0525  0
   0.0575  0
   0.0625  0
   0.0675  0
   0.0725  0
   0.0775  0
   0.0825  0
   0.0875  0
   0.0925  0
   0.0975  0
   0.1025  0
   0.1075  0
   0.1125  0
   0.1175  0
   0.1225  0
   0.1275  0
   0.1325  0
   0.1375  0
   0.1425  0
   0.1475  0
   0.1525  0
   0.1575  0
   0.1625  0
   0.1675  0
   0.1725  0
   0.1775  0
   0.1825  0
   0.1875  0
   0.1925  0
   0.1975  0
   0.2025  0
   0.2075  0
   0.2125  0
   0.2175  0
   0.2225  0
   0.2275  0
   0.2325 0.00538632
   0.2375   0.125501
   0.24251.23562
   0.24756.08295
   0.252516.4279
   0.257528.6597
   0.262536.0576
   0.2675 35.154
   0.272528.1539
   0.277519.8073
   0.282512.4602
   0.28757.23832
   0.29254.06577
   0.29752.15794
   0.30251.14423
   0.3075   0.588366
   0.3125   0.310611
   0.3175   0.163206
   0.3225  0.0772039
   0.3275  0.0411156
   0.3325  0.0210066
   0.3375  0.0113113
   0.3425 0.00574541
   0.3475 0.00502723
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Re: [gmx-users] the -dist flag of g_hbond tool

2013-05-24 Thread Erik Marklund
It used to be. I didn't realise it was still in the code. We experimented a bit 
with having a continuous bond criterion instead of a binary measure. It didn't 
do for us what we hoped it would so it was abandoned. I know that some people 
are using Espiniozas empirical formula for bond energy, however, so that code 
may be resurrected at some point.

Erik

On 24 May 2013, at 15:12, CHEN Pan evan.pan.c...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes. I have looked at it already. I may need to spend time to understand
 it.
 
 By the way, in the source code, it seems some part are written for
 calculating hydrogen bonding energy, but I haven't see any flag command
 could give a output of hydrogen bonding energy file. Is it still under
 development?
 
 
 2013/5/24 Erik Marklund er...@xray.bmc.uu.se
 
 Hm. That is peculiar. The source code has the answer of course. I can have
 a look next week to see why that is.
 
 Erik
 
 On 24 May 2013, at 14:11, CHEN Pan evan.pan.c...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I have 512 donors and 1024 acceptors.
 
 I have just tested g_hbond with my standard crystal structure, which I
 should get 512 hydrogen bonds. And the output hbnum.xvg does show 512
 hydrogen bonds, which is correct. But the hbdist.xvg file still shows
 that the summation of population is 200.
 
 
 2013/5/24 Erik Marklund er...@xray.bmc.uu.se
 
 Hi,
 
 See below
 
 On 24 May 2013, at 11:45, CHEN Pan evan.pan.c...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Dear Gromacs users,
 
 I am confused about the g_hbond tools.
 
 1) When I use -dist to get the distribution of hydrogen bonding
 distance,
 I found that the summation of the population is always 200 (the
 y-column
 below). I am not sure if it's was done with normalization or not, if
 yes,
 the summation should be one, if no, then the summation should equals to
 the
 total number of the hydrogen bonds, but here the hbnum.xvg shows me I
 have 440 hydrogen bonds. Why here is always 200, not matter what types
 of
 hydrogen bonds.
 
 How many donors do you have, and how many acceptors?
 
 
 2) In my system, there are several different types of hydrogen bonds,
 such
 as intra-chain and inter-chain or intra-sheet and inter-sheet hydrogen
 bonds. Is there any smart way to separately calculate those hydrogen
 bonds? By using the index.ndx file, I could separate the intra-chain
 hydrogen bonds, then I can get the inter-chain ones using the total one
 minus the intra-chain one. It may be possible to do the same for the
 intra-sheet and the inter-sheet. However, this strategy seems
 complex.
 Did anybody have experience or ideas for this problem?
 
 Pan
 
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Re: [gmx-users] Solvent molecules within a certain distance of solute

2013-05-22 Thread Erik Marklund
g_hbond and g_hbond -contact

Erik

On 22 May 2013, at 05:37, Vishal Kumar Jaiswal vishal3...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello gromacs users
 
 I performed a 1 ns simulation of N-isopropylamide in water. Now i wish to
 calculate the average no of water molecules(averaged over entire
 trajectory) within a certain distance of solute and no. of  water molecules
 that form H-bonds with solute.
 
 Could you guide me as to what tools are appropriate for this
 
 Vishal
 Undergraduate student
 IITG
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Re: [gmx-users] MSD and frequency of writing trajectories

2013-05-22 Thread Erik Marklund
Hi,

For particles that diffuse more than half a box length between frames will 
appear as if they haven't moved much, assuming you have periodic boundary 
conditions.

Erik

On 22 May 2013, at 11:41, Anna Akinshina anna.akinsh...@manchester.ac.uk 
wrote:

 Dear Gromacs Users,
 
 I have a question interpreting obtained msd data.
 I need to calculate diffusion coefficient for a single argon atom in a box of 
 water (500 molecules).
 During the calculations (50ns) I write both trr and xtc trajectories, but to 
 save space I write trr for whole system very seldom (every 5 steps = 100 
 ps)
 but in xtc I have argon only (no water) and write more often (every 1000 
 steps =  2 ps).
 
 When I analysed the results using g_msd I was surprised that the msd  curves 
 obtained from trr and xtc trajectories differ a lot, what affect the 
 resulting diffusion coefficients.
 
 If I save trr more often, like every 1 steps (20ps) the results from both 
  files coincide.
 
 Does the msd results depend on how often you write trajectories?
 If yes, what frequency for writing the trajectories for future calculation of 
 the diffusion coefficient would be reasonable and how long should be the 
 calculations?
 
 Thanks you
 Anna
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 The University of Manchester, UK
 
 
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Re: [gmx-users] RNA MD Simulation using GROMACS

2013-05-20 Thread Erik Marklund
Hi,

To get useful help with this issue you need to provide a more informative 
description of what when wrong, i.e. what gromacs tool was invoked and what 
input was used.

Erik

On 20 May 2013, at 10:59, Pruthvi Bejugam pruthvi.n...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 
I want to perform a RNA (Just RNA no protein or DNA
 included) MD Simulation. Can anybody suggest me what are the general
 parameters should be used for the RNA MD Simulations.
 I know that AMBER and CHARMM force field work well for DNA and RNA. i have
 tried the RNA MD simulation using AMBER force field and it got failed and
 the error was FATAL error found no suitable atoms in the parameters. so,
 any one please help me out with this problem.
 
 
 Thanks In advance,
 
 
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Re: [gmx-users] Hydrogen Bond analysis using Gromacs

2013-05-17 Thread Erik Marklund
HI,

s0, s1,… is (xm)grace codes that refer to the different datasets in the file. 
Gromacs prints the datasets as different columns. I suggest opening the file 
with xmgrace -nxy yourxvgfile.xvg. As for the -life option, the results are 
based on a too wimple kinetic model for most applications.

Erik

On 17 May 2013, at 08:21, Keerthana S.P Periasamy keerthanas...@yahoo.com 
wrote:

 
 
 Hai
 In Hydrogen Bonding Analysis, I  want to know about the the 
 interpretation of   option -life and  -ac (autocorrelation) I cannot 
 understand what the columns P(t) and t p(t)  describe and how to interpret 
 this. Similarly after tagging -ac option in .xvg file I am getting@ s0 
 legend Ac\sfin sys\v{}\z{}(t)
  @ s1 legend Ac(t)
  @ s2 legend Cc\scontact,hb\v{}\z{}(t)   @ s3 legend -dAc\sfs\v{}\z{}/dt  
   i also want to know what these s0 to s3 specify and how to interpret 
 this.Please help me to get cleared of my doubts so that I can continue 
 further.   Thanks in Advance
 with regardsKeerthanaPeriasamy
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Re: [gmx-users] Large number of solvent molecules

2013-05-14 Thread Erik Marklund
Hi,

Have a look at the following article. It describes a non-standard box type that 
seems ideal for your application. I don't know what is the latest gromacs 
version where it is implemented, however.

Author = {Wassenaar, TA and Mark, AE},
Title = {{The effect of box shape on the dynamic properties of proteins 
simulated
   under periodic boundary conditions}},
Journal = {{JOURNAL OF COMPUTATIONAL CHEMISTRY}},
Year = {{2006}},
Volume = {{27}},
Number = {{3}},
Pages = {{316-325}},


On 14 May 2013, at 07:44, Nikunj Maheshwari nixcrazyfor...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thank you Dr. Dallas. Yes I think the issue is that the starting
 conformation is linear, as I want to study its folding properties. I tried
 the same with helical starting conformation, and got around 11 water
 molecules, which is still ok.
 I am trying to find a way to simulate a 89 aa peptide in linear starting
 conformation such that the simulation is practically feasible.
 
 On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Dallas Warren 
 dallas.war...@monash.eduwrote:
 
 From the box volume printed in the script output it appears you have a
 box that is approximately a 28nm cube.  And that size box requires a
 significant number of water molecules to fill up, so that number you have
 in there (~770,000) seems about correct.
 
 If you want to have less water molecules, then you will need to make the
 simulation cell smaller.  Whether that is possible or not depends on what
 you are looking to observe, how big the molecule you are solvating is etc.
 
 Catch ya,
 
 Dr. Dallas Warren
 Drug Discovery Biology
 Monash Institute of Pharmaceutical Sciences, Monash University
 381 Royal Parade, Parkville VIC 3052
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 When the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem begins to resemble a
 nail.
 
 
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 boun...@gromacs.org] On Behalf Of Nikunj Maheshwari
 Sent: Tuesday, 14 May 2013 3:04 PM
 To: Discussion list for GROMACS users
 Subject: [gmx-users] Large number of solvent molecules
 
 Dear all,
 
 I am trying to see the folding of a 89 aa peptide. So I am setting up
 the
 system from linear conformation.
 I gave the following commands to build the box and add the solvent
 molecules.
 
 editconf -f output.gro -c -d 1.0 -bt dodecahedron -o outbox.gro
 
 genbox -cp outbox.gro -cs spc216.gro -p topol.top -o outh2o.gro
 
 Reading solute configuration
 Go Rough, Oppose Many Angry Chinese Serial killers
 Containing 1440 atoms in 89 residues
 Initialising van der waals distances...
 
 WARNING: Masses and atomic (Van der Waals) radii will be guessed
 based on residue and atom names, since they could not be
 definitively assigned from the information in your input
 files. These guessed numbers might deviate from the mass
 and radius of the atom type. Please check the output
 files if necessary.
 
 Reading solvent configuration
 216H2O,WATJP01,SPC216,SPC-
 MODEL,300K,BOX(M)=1.86206NM,WFVG,MAR. 1984
 solvent configuration contains 648 atoms in 216 residues
 
 Initialising van der waals distances...
 Will generate new solvent configuration of 18x18x13 boxes
 Generating configuration
 Sorting configuration
 Found 1 molecule type:
SOL (   3 atoms): 909792 residues
 Calculating Overlap...
 box_margin = 0.315
 Removed 324522 atoms that were outside the box
 Neighborsearching with a cut-off of 0.48
 Table routines are used for coulomb: FALSE
 Table routines are used for vdw: FALSE
 Cut-off's:   NS: 0.48   Coulomb: 0.48   LJ: 0.48
 System total charge: 0.000
 Grid: 73 x 73 x 51 cells
 Successfully made neighbourlist
 nri = 3007232, nrj = 82473964
 Checking Protein-Solvent overlap: tested 36005 pairs, removed 1653
 atoms.
 Checking Solvent-Solvent overlap: tested 7152003 pairs, removed 73182
 atoms.
 Added 776673 molecules
 Generated solvent containing 2330019 atoms in 776673 residues
 Writing generated configuration to outh2o.gro
 
 Back Off! I just backed up outh2o.gro to ./#outh2o.gro.1#
 Go Rough, Oppose Many Angry Chinese Serial killers
 
 Output configuration contains 2331459 atoms in 776762 residues
 Volume : 23276.3 (nm^3)
 Density: 1001.32 (g/l)
 Number of SOL molecules:  776673
 
 Processing topology
 Adding line for 776673 solvent molecules to topology file (topol.top)
 
 
 Later on, I used -d 0.5. I still get around 71 water molecules in
 the
 system.
 
 Then, I used g_mindist for both cases (d 1.0 and d 0.5). It is around 9
 A
 and 8.4 A respectively.
 
 I need to know if I have done something wrong in setting up the system.
 Is
 there any way to get feasible number of solvent molecules?
 
 Thanks
 Nikunj
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Re: [gmx-users] Problem with DSSP

2013-05-08 Thread Erik Marklund
/home/dssp seems like a strange path. Are you sure you set DSSP correctly?

Erik
 
On 8 May 2013, at 15:19, Sainitin Donakonda saigr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I am trying to secondary structure analysis using DSSP in gromacs so i
 followed this procedure
 
 First I downloaded dssp
 
 wget ftp://ftp.cmbi.ru.nl/pub/software/dssp/dssp-2.0.4-linux-amd64  -O
 ~/dssp
 
 this gave dssp executable file in my home directory
 
 I checked ./dssp ...it works
 
 Then i set environment variable as follows
 
 export DSSP=/myhomedir/dssp/dssp
 
 then i executed following command in gromacs
 
 do_dssp -f protein.xtc -s protein.tpr -sc scount.xvg -o ss.xpm -dt 10
 
 But this gives following error
 
 *Program do_dssp, VERSION 4.5.4
 Source code file:
 /home/toor/gromacs/gromacs-4.5.4/src/tools/do_dssp.c, line: 516
 
 Fatal error:
 DSSP executable (/home/dssp) does not exist (use setenv DSSP)*
 
 *
 *
 
 *Can any body explain where it went wrong...*
 
 *I have gone through gromacs list but unfortunately couldnot manage to
 solve this simple issue*
 
 *
 *
 
 *Thanks,*
 
 *Nitin*
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Re: [gmx-users] (no subject)

2013-05-06 Thread Erik Marklund
I really don't think thats possible at the moment. All interactions in Reax, if 
I recall correctly, are dependent on bond order, which is not an implemented 
concept in gromacs.

Erik

On 6 May 2013, at 12:51, Sathish Kumar sathishk...@gmail.com wrote:

 hai
 i would like to use Reax force field,can we use reax force field
 in gromacs and if any one please tell to me weather reax ff is useful for
 protein
 
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Re: [gmx-users] constant protonation state MD

2013-05-03 Thread Erik Marklund
There's no general answer to that. Proton conductivity measurements, for 
instance, will be horribly wrong without dynamic protonation. Much (but not 
all) structural biology, however, will be largely unaffected.

Erik

On 3 May 2013, at 04:30, shahid nayeem msnay...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear all
 
 Can someone enlighten me on the reliability of the results obtained from
 constant protonation state (assigned by different pKa value at different
 pH) MD simulation. Also want to know its reliability in case of implicit
 solvation model such as PB/GB calculation.
 
 Shahid
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Re: [gmx-users] random seed in molecular dynamics

2013-05-03 Thread Erik Marklund
If I recall correctly it uses the seed provided in the mdp file. If no seed is 
provided it uses the process id for seeding. The manual explains the details.

Erik

On 3 May 2013, at 08:00, Preeti Choudhary preetichoudhary18111...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 hey this is regarding random seed used in md.this is when it selects the
 intial velocity and selects from maxwell-istribution.but is it selects only
 once or selects this random seed every time when grompp makes .tpr
 file.really confused about this random seed concept.can u clear my
 confusion??
 
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Re: [gmx-users] constant protonation state MD

2013-05-03 Thread Erik Marklund
I don't have one in mind. It's a delicate question and perhaps I shouldn't have 
phrased it the way I did. Nevertheless, the pKa of most side chains mean that 
their protonation will be dominated by one state for most pH values. pKa-shifts 
and complicated interplay between protonation and structure cause exceptions to 
this and you should be aware that such things may in some cases be important. 
Also consider the timescales of pH-depedent structural changes and the length 
of your simulations. You could check out the papers on lambda dynamics by C. 
Brooks III for an interesting take on sampling multiple protonation states.

Best,

Erik

On 3 May 2013, at 14:05, shahid nayeem msnay...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks a lot Erik. Could I get some reference based on which you say that
 much of the structural biology will be largely unaffected.
 
 Shahid
 
 
 On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Erik Marklund er...@xray.bmc.uu.se wrote:
 
 There's no general answer to that. Proton conductivity measurements, for
 instance, will be horribly wrong without dynamic protonation. Much (but not
 all) structural biology, however, will be largely unaffected.
 
 Erik
 
 On 3 May 2013, at 04:30, shahid nayeem msnay...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Dear all
 
 Can someone enlighten me on the reliability of the results obtained from
 constant protonation state (assigned by different pKa value at different
 pH) MD simulation. Also want to know its reliability in case of implicit
 solvation model such as PB/GB calculation.
 
 Shahid
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Re: [gmx-users] constant protonation state MD

2013-05-03 Thread Erik Marklund
Yes that's what lambda dynamics does. I mentioned it since it addresses the 
interplay between protonation and structure. So to answer your original 
question: it depends.

Erik

On 3 May 2013, at 15:27, shahid nayeem msnay...@gmail.com wrote:

 If I know correctly in lambda dynamics the dynamics of
 protonation/deprotonation equilibria is accounted for while my question
 relates to the typical constant protonation MD where each titratable group
 remains in one protonation state throughout the simulation. Please educate
 me
 Shahid
 
 
 On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 6:22 PM, Erik Marklund er...@xray.bmc.uu.se wrote:
 
 I don't have one in mind. It's a delicate question and perhaps I shouldn't
 have phrased it the way I did. Nevertheless, the pKa of most side chains
 mean that their protonation will be dominated by one state for most pH
 values. pKa-shifts and complicated interplay between protonation and
 structure cause exceptions to this and you should be aware that such things
 may in some cases be important. Also consider the timescales of pH-depedent
 structural changes and the length of your simulations. You could check out
 the papers on lambda dynamics by C. Brooks III for an interesting take on
 sampling multiple protonation states.
 
 Best,
 
 Erik
 
 On 3 May 2013, at 14:05, shahid nayeem msnay...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Thanks a lot Erik. Could I get some reference based on which you say that
 much of the structural biology will be largely unaffected.
 
 Shahid
 
 
 On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Erik Marklund er...@xray.bmc.uu.se
 wrote:
 
 There's no general answer to that. Proton conductivity measurements, for
 instance, will be horribly wrong without dynamic protonation. Much (but
 not
 all) structural biology, however, will be largely unaffected.
 
 Erik
 
 On 3 May 2013, at 04:30, shahid nayeem msnay...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Dear all
 
 Can someone enlighten me on the reliability of the results obtained
 from
 constant protonation state (assigned by different pKa value at
 different
 pH) MD simulation. Also want to know its reliability in case of
 implicit
 solvation model such as PB/GB calculation.
 
 Shahid
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Re: [gmx-users] vacum simulation

2013-05-02 Thread Erik Marklund
You seem to be using a 2 fs time step. It's difficult to achieve stable 
integration using 2 fs time steps in vacuum. Please provide more information 
about your simulation parameters.

Erik

On 2 May 2013, at 14:40, Souilem Safa safasouil...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Gromacs users ,
 I did the simulation of a single molecule in vacum. I have choosed 10 ns
 which corresponds to 500 steps. I was checking the .log file frequently.
 I have noticed that the number of steps from 1938900 didn't increases.
 When I open a new tab with the top option, I see mdrun still existing.
 I have attached here the .log file and also some warnings that I saw when
 steps stop at 1938900
 
 Step 1938969, time 3877.94 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
 relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
 rms 12871303501.643789, max 33207281664.00 (between atoms 3 and 6)
 bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
 atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
 46 47   98.80.1406 3889.8669  0.1000
 45 46   79.4  10193.8799 10564.2393  0.1440
 43 44   79.60.1033 631.2256  0.1000
 42 45   80.1  10193.9062 11014.6123  0.1520
 42 43   93.50.1851 4970.4243  0.1440
 40 41   76.50.1009 184.9659  0.1000
 39 42   90.40.1819 5231.5186  0.1520
 39 40  100.00.1502 624.0559  0.1440
 37 38   97.10.1001 592.4050  0.1000
 36 37   81.40.1469 828.7896  0.1430
 35 39   88.60.1742 8071.4395  0.1520
 35 36   94.70.1861 8093.3452  0.1530
 35 34   92.9  8046.3804 17904.5762  0.1440
 33 45   78.0  26093.2402 332765.5000  0.1520
 33 34   94.6  26065.5371 330302.5625  0.1440
 29 30   74.4  190965.5938 1213272.  0.1360
 27 28   91.2  85465.0547 294693.5000  0.1430
 25 27   85.7  126649.9141 1143663.7500  0.1360
 25 26  107.7  116051.3750 805165.8125  0.1230
 24 29  102.8  1939418.3750 1702562.5000  0.1390
 24 25  101.0  1963544.3750 1402288.3750  0.1390
 22 23   97.9  345568.0625 1364901.  0.1530
 31 21  109.7  1948370.1250 7003795.5000  0.1390
 21 22  101.2  2108572.2500 6662917.5000  0.1390
 20 24   89.4  8876732. 68351760.  0.1390
 20 21   89.1  8780558. 67941296.  0.1390
 20 19   88.5  39924512. 280068256.  0.1530
 17 19   92.9  371385600. 509824768.  0.1530
 17 18   96.4  394707616. 358144416.  0.1230
 17 16   90.0  446916736. 883243840.  0.1360
 15 16   98.9  1051905920. 370290400.  0.1430
 14 15  100.8  520221760. 522257472.  0.1530
 13 14  128.2  1139173888. 3275473920.  0.1390
 13 11  155.0  2786396928. 3396753920.  0.1390
 11 12  151.7  1220930176. 2911329792.  0.1090
  9 11  161.5  369404096. 342864.  0.1390
  9 10  135.8  2190610944. 1502276608.  0.1090
  7  8   91.7  148944928. 1389486464.  0.1000
  6  9  150.6  497182528. 4613532672.  0.1390
  6  7  168.3  1652069120. 3562507776.  0.1360
  4  5  165.5  55138408. 449667456.  0.1000
  3  6  169.0  1702803200. 4615812096.  0.1390
  3  4  124.7  198457328. 2500093184.  0.1360
 13  1  158.1  1042088320. 3730094848.  0.1390
 Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates
 Please I need your help what should I do in this case?
 Best regards,
 Safa
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Re: [gmx-users] RMSD from the average structure

2013-04-26 Thread Erik Marklund
Average coordinates are problematic and not generally representative. Consider 
for instance the average coordinates of a methyl group connected to X. The 
rotation around the C-X bond causes the average positions of the hydrogens to 
line up. Consider using g_cluster to find representative structures from your 
trajectory.

Erik

On 26 Apr 2013, at 06:59, bipin singh bipinel...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for your reply.
 Actually I am interested to see how much structural deviation is occurring
 in a protein during the simulation from its average position of atoms
 rather than the initial position (crystal structure or starting structure).
 The motivation of doing this analysis is the fact that in real solution
 phase, a system may not be static and if we consider the time average
 structure of a simulation to be the real representative of the structure in
 solution phase rather than static crystal structure.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 2:06 AM, Tsjerk Wassenaar tsje...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Bipin Singh,
 
 That indeed gives you the RMSD against the average. Do think about it a bit
 more: do you want the average of the whole structure, or should you account
 for a phase of relaxation?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Tsjerk
 
 
 On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:
 
 
 
 On 4/24/13 3:06 AM, bipin singh wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 Please let me know whether this is the right way to calculate RMSD from
 the
 average structure from a simulation:
 
 g_rmsf -f traj.xtc -s average.pdb -od rmsdev.xvg
 
 
 average.pdb: is the pdb file produced using -ox option of g_rmsf.
 
 
 You can calculate RMSD with respect to whatever structure you like, but
 the interpretation and justification for doing so are up to you.
 
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Re: [gmx-users] any other criteria for h-bond?

2013-04-24 Thread Erik Marklund
Hi,

Could you please clarify if the hbond existed in frames for which g_sdangle 
reported a ADH-angle above 30 deg?

Also, bear in mind that the -merge flag is on by default, so another hydrogen 
may bridge the donor-acceptor gap.

Erik

On 24 Apr 2013, at 21:09, kim2811 kmani...@iastate.edu wrote:

 Hi, is there any other criteria in determining a hydrogen bond? i know that
 in order for a bond to exist, donor-acceptor distance should be less than
 or equal 3.5A and A-D-H angle less than or equal 30deg. I used g_sgangle to
 measure the angle A-D-H of two hydrogen bonds identified when I determined
 the hydrogen bonds using g_hbond. What I did is, I separated A-D and H-D as
 two groups (i made the atom indices in the order A-D and H-D in the index
 file) and measured the angle between these two vectors. However, the A-D-H
 angle as a function of time fall above the cut-off of 30deg and I wonder
 why. is there any other explanation for this?
 
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Re: [gmx-users] doubt in remd

2013-04-09 Thread Erik Marklund
The gromacs web page links to this server for REMD temperature generation: 
http://folding.bmc.uu.se/remd/

On 9 Apr 2013, at 08:34, Nikunj Maheshwari nixcrazyfor...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi. Glad to know that your REMD was successful. We are trying to do the
 same, but are stuck in between.
 Can you tell us, how did you got the temperature spacing?
 Thanks
 
 On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Shine A shin...@iisertvm.ac.in wrote:
 
 Respected sir,
 
I successfully  completed REMD simulation. Now I am
 struggling with analysis part. Here how I select the global minimum  from
 replica? Can you give some suggestions about the analysis part?
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Re: [gmx-users] Maximum protein size for REMD?

2013-04-09 Thread Erik Marklund
I've tried one with 666 aa, but with no publishable results.

On 9 Apr 2013, at 09:47, Nikunj Maheshwari nixcrazyfor...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear all...
 
 Does anyone has any idea what is the maximum protein size for which a
 successful REMD run has taken place?
 We have went through lots of research papers, but could not find any
 protein/peptide above 100 aa related to REMD.
 We have a protein of 292 aa.
 
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Re: [gmx-users] Maximum protein size for REMD?

2013-04-09 Thread Erik Marklund
I used the REMD temperature generator. Needless to say, we got really tight 
spacing and the enhancement to the sampling was probably small. The whole setup 
was pretty experimental. The run was completed.

Erik
 
On 9 Apr 2013, at 10:01, Nikunj Maheshwari nixcrazyfor...@gmail.com wrote:

 How did you get the final temperature spacing for the run? Did you get the
 fitted values using polynomial fit?
 Was the run completed?
 
 On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Erik Marklund er...@xray.bmc.uu.se wrote:
 
 I've tried one with 666 aa, but with no publishable results.
 
 On 9 Apr 2013, at 09:47, Nikunj Maheshwari nixcrazyfor...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Dear all...
 
 Does anyone has any idea what is the maximum protein size for which a
 successful REMD run has taken place?
 We have went through lots of research papers, but could not find any
 protein/peptide above 100 aa related to REMD.
 We have a protein of 292 aa.
 
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Re: [gmx-users] autocorrelation function of hydrogen bond : g_hbond

2013-04-09 Thread Erik Marklund
There's a known oscillation in the ACF that occurs at ~100 fs or so. Is that 
what you see?

Erik

On 9 Apr 2013, at 18:02, Nilesh Dhumal ndhu...@andrew.cmu.edu wrote:

 
 
 On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Nilesh Dhumal
 ndhu...@andrew.cmu.eduwrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I am calculating the hydrogen bond autocorrelation function using
 g_hbond
 for O-H---O hydrogen bond in system.
 
 I made two groups 1. O-H atoms numbers 2. two oxygen atoms are
 interacting
 with OH bond.
 
 I am using default hydrogen bond criteria (donor-acceptor distance 3.5
 and
 angle 30) for calculating the autocorrelation function.
 
 I am not getting a smooth exponential plot. I get a small bump in the
 plot.
 
 Attached the autocorrelation plot.
 
 
 Attachments are not allowed on this list. Please provide a link to the
 image.
 
 
 Why there is not smooth exponential plot.
 
 
 There is no way to tell, and even with the image there is still no way to
 tell. How much sampling do you have? Have you looked at overall
 convergence, etc?
 
 
 I saved the trajectory at 3fs.
 
 It converged.
 
 Nilesh
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [gmx-users] COM restraint similar to distance restraints

2013-04-04 Thread Erik Marklund
It is, and I think there was in fact some experimental/private branch that 
dabbled with this. It hasn't gone into the official releases yet and there is 
no guarantee that it will.

Erik

On 4 Apr 2013, at 14:10, nahren manuel meetnah...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Sorry to bother you all once again. As there were no replies, I assume it is 
 not possible to implement COM distance restraints in a way similar to 
 distance restrains.
 
 nahren
 
 
 
 From: nahren manuel meetnah...@yahoo.com
 To: gromacs gromacs gmx-users@gromacs.org 
 Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 9:56 PM
 Subject: [gmx-users] COM restraint similar to distance restraints
 
 Dear Gromacs Users,
 
 I was wondering if there is a way to implement the COM distance restraints 
 (which I presently apply using pull, and setting pull-rate =0.0) in way 
 similar to distance restraints defining the lower up1 up2 (i.e harmonic 
 restraint with a flat well). Any suggestion will be appreciated.
 
 Sincerely,
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Re: [gmx-users] -vsite in Umbrella sampling

2013-04-04 Thread Erik Marklund
I always do. There's nothing particular about umbrella sampling in this respect.

On 4 Apr 2013, at 17:33, raghav singh raghavbioi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Fellow Users,
 
 I have a question regarding US simulation.
 I am interested to know that can I treat hydrogens as virtual sites in US
 simulations??
 I have very large protein complexes and to use higher time stepping during
 simulations...I am thinking to use -vsite option.
 
 what do you guys suggest??
 
 Thank you
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Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond

2013-04-03 Thread Erik Marklund
Yes.

On 3 Apr 2013, at 04:07, Nilesh Dhumal ndhu...@andrew.cmu.edu wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I am calculating the hydrogen bond life time for my system.
 
 Do program consider the hydrogen bond criteria for calculation of
 autocorrelation function?
 
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Re: [gmx-users] REMD general protocol ...

2013-04-02 Thread Erik Marklund

On 2 Apr 2013, at 13:30, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:

 
 
 On 4/2/13 7:13 AM, rama david wrote:
 Dear friends,
   I am naive to the Replica exchange Molecular dynamics ( REMD).
 I have plan to use REMD for temp. 310-320 K to my system.
 I  thoroughly search the Mailing-list Archive for the REMD problem.
 It was a really helpful to start.
 
  My system consist of peptide + water.
 
 I used the following work-flow, Would you please help me to find out
 my mistakes...
 
 1. energy minimesation for peptide  + solvent
 2. Different Mdp file for temp. ( 4 temp therefore 4 mdp file )
 3. Make tpr file for each nvt run
 4. Then separate  equilibration for each temp ( 4 equilibration steps  )
 5. Then made NPT.mdp file for each temp ( 4 temp )
 6. Then again equilibration for NPT at 4 temp.( 4 equilibration  steps )
 7.   Then run md production  with -replex 1000  -multi 4  command ..
 
 To determine the temp I used web-server  http://folding.bmc.uu.se/remd/
 
 Please suggest me any improvements that are  possible to implement in
 my work flow.
 
 
 Such a narrow range of temperatures defeats the purpose of using REMD. 
 Normally, a much larger range is used over many more simulations.  For 
 near-ambient temperatures, NPT can be used, but if you include much higher 
 temperatures, you should use NVT due to box instability upon exchanges.
 
 -Justin

Sure, the enhanced sampling is basically gone, but you can deduce temperature 
dependences from such simulations and to some extent benefit from the mixing, 
can't you?

Erik

 
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Re: [gmx-users] scaling factor for rna/dna

2013-03-26 Thread Erik Marklund
Hi,

I suggest contacting people in Johan Åqvist's lab. I'm sure they know exactly 
what pitfalls there may be with regards to the choice of LIE parameters and 
what has been done for different types of molecules.

Erik

On 26 Mar 2013, at 02:42, Vishwambhar Bhandare vishway...@gmail.com wrote:

 dear gromacs users,
 I am doing LIE calculation in gromacs for RNA molecules,
 What scaling factor (alpha and beta) should i use for calculation?
 Is that default values for protein ligand will work'?
 how we can get these alpha and beta scaling factors for nucleic acid?
 thanks in advance..
 
 
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Re: [gmx-users] Hydrogen bonding differences

2013-03-22 Thread Erik Marklund
I could see how -merge (on by default) could lead to this. Have you  
tried -nomerge?


Erik

On Mar 22, 2013, at 4:46 PM, Kavyashree M wrote:


Dear Users,

As suggested earlier by Erik I used 4.6 to calculate the hydrogen  
bonds.

Still the
Total intra-protein hydrogen bonds is not equal (MM +MS +SS)  
hydrogen bond.

Is there any other solution?

Thank you
Kavya

On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Kavyashree M hmkv...@gmail.com  
wrote:



Dear Sir,

Sure I will try with 4.6. presently I am not able to download it.

Thank you
kavya


On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Erik Marklund  
er...@xray.bmc.uu.sewrote:


There were a handful of bugfixes to g_hbond over the last year.  
Could you
try 4.6 or a smoking hot 4.5.5? I recognize this discrepancy form  
before.


Erik


On Jan 24, 2013, at 3:59 PM, Kavyashree M wrote:

Dear Sir,


This is 4.5.3. I have not tried nomerge. I did not use
nomerge option in any of them, So if it has counted
it (Hbond b/w same donor and acceptor but with
different hydrogen) twice in one calculation then it will
be counted twice in another, So wont the result with/without
nomerge be the same?

The difference is 4-5 Hbonds..

Thank you
Kavya

On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 7:30 PM, Erik Marklund er...@xray.bmc.uu.se 


wrote:

Hi. What version was this? Have you tried with -nomerge?


Erik


On Jan 21, 2013, at 10:55 AM, Kavyashree M wrote:

Dear users,



While calculating hydrogen bonds for a simulation, it
was found that the average number of intra protein
hbonds was not equal to sum of MM, MS and SS
hydrogen bonds. (MM - main chain - main chain,
MS - main chain - side chain and side chain - side
chain hydrogen bonds). There was a difference of 5
or so hbonds between intra-protein and MM+MS+SS
hbonds. why is this so?
I selected the options 7 7 for MM, 7 8 for MS and 8 8
for SS hydrogen bonds.

One clarification. nhbdist option gives 0, 1, 2, 3 and
total hydrogen bonds per hydrogen. Does this mean
that a single hydrogen involving in forming hbond with
2 different acceptors/donors at different points of time
in the trajectory.

Thanks
kavya
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Re: [gmx-users] Hydrogen bonding differences

2013-03-22 Thread Erik Marklund
I wouldn't say wrong, but I realized that some residue may make two  
hbonds to different parts of the protein, i.e. to the main chain and  
to a side chain at the same time. With -merge this counts as one if  
you analyze the entire protein. If you split your analysis such hbonds  
will show up in both e.g. SS and MS, hence TOT  MM+SS+MS. It's just  
another way of counting hbonds.


Erik

On Mar 22, 2013, at 5:32 PM, Kavyashree M wrote:


Sir,

I tried -nomerge. It is fine now. But will it be wrong to
calculate without nomerge option?

Thank you
Kavya

On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Erik Marklund  
er...@xray.bmc.uu.se wrote:


I could see how -merge (on by default) could lead to this. Have you  
tried

-nomerge?

Erik


On Mar 22, 2013, at 4:46 PM, Kavyashree M wrote:

Dear Users,


As suggested earlier by Erik I used 4.6 to calculate the hydrogen  
bonds.

Still the
Total intra-protein hydrogen bonds is not equal (MM +MS +SS)  
hydrogen

bond.
Is there any other solution?

Thank you
Kavya

On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Kavyashree M hmkv...@gmail.com  
wrote:


Dear Sir,


Sure I will try with 4.6. presently I am not able to download it.

Thank you
kavya


On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Erik Marklund  
er...@xray.bmc.uu.se

wrote:


There were a handful of bugfixes to g_hbond over the last year.  
Could

you
try 4.6 or a smoking hot 4.5.5? I recognize this discrepancy form
before.

Erik


On Jan 24, 2013, at 3:59 PM, Kavyashree M wrote:

Dear Sir,



This is 4.5.3. I have not tried nomerge. I did not use
nomerge option in any of them, So if it has counted
it (Hbond b/w same donor and acceptor but with
different hydrogen) twice in one calculation then it will
be counted twice in another, So wont the result with/without
nomerge be the same?

The difference is 4-5 Hbonds..

Thank you
Kavya

On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 7:30 PM, Erik Marklund er...@xray.bmc.uu.se 


wrote:

Hi. What version was this? Have you tried with -nomerge?



Erik


On Jan 21, 2013, at 10:55 AM, Kavyashree M wrote:

Dear users,



While calculating hydrogen bonds for a simulation, it
was found that the average number of intra protein
hbonds was not equal to sum of MM, MS and SS
hydrogen bonds. (MM - main chain - main chain,
MS - main chain - side chain and side chain - side
chain hydrogen bonds). There was a difference of 5
or so hbonds between intra-protein and MM+MS+SS
hbonds. why is this so?
I selected the options 7 7 for MM, 7 8 for MS and 8 8
for SS hydrogen bonds.

One clarification. nhbdist option gives 0, 1, 2, 3 and
total hydrogen bonds per hydrogen. Does this mean
that a single hydrogen involving in forming hbond with
2 different acceptors/donors at different points of time
in the trajectory.

Thanks
kavya
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Re: [gmx-users] Freezing some residues in equillibrium state?

2013-03-19 Thread Erik Marklund


On Mar 19, 2013, at 11:45 AM, Justin Lemkul wrote:


On 3/19/13 5:44 AM, 라지브간디 wrote:
Anyone tell me how do I freeze the particular residues in NPT-NVT  
equillibrium steps ? I want them in same conformation as pdb for  
further production run ? Thanks in advance




Use freezegrps or strong position restraints.


But note that if you release frozen groups after equilibration your  
system may need further time to equilibrate.


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Re: [gmx-users] pull code - constraint pulling - forces are zeros

2013-03-18 Thread Erik Marklund

Hi,

I believe there is no force output for constraint pulling. Try umbrella.

Erik

On Mar 18, 2013, at 3:28 PM, raghav singh wrote:


Hello Fellow Users,

I am trying to pull a DNA molecule. I have fixed one end and trying  
to pull

the other one using this .mdp file.. force output is all zeros.
I have tried going through the user-list but have not found any  
solution

yet. I am using gmx-version 4.5.5.

Any idea why is it happening.??
below is the mdp file i am using.

Thank you
Raghav

##

title   = constraint pulling simulation
define  = -DPOSRES
; Run parameters
integrator  = md
dt  = 0.002
tinit   = 0
nsteps  = 2; 1ns
nstcomm = 10
; Output parameters
nstxout = 100  ; every 10 ps
nstvout = 100
nstfout = 20
nstxtcout   = 20  ; every 1 ps
nstenergy   = 20
energygrps  = DNA Water_and_ions
; Bond parameters
constraint_algorithm= lincs
lincs_iter  = 1
lincs_order = 4
constraints = all-bonds
continuation= no   ; continuing from NPT
; Single-range cutoff scheme
nstlist = 5
ns_type = grid
rlist   = 1.2
rcoulomb= 1.2
rvdw= 1.2
; PME electrostatics parameters
coulombtype = PME
fourierspacing  = 0.12
fourier_nx  = 0
fourier_ny  = 0
fourier_nz  = 0
pme_order   = 4
ewald_rtol  = 1e-5
optimize_fft= yes
; Berendsen temperature coupling is on in two groups
Tcoupl  = V-rescale
tc_grps = DNA   Water_and_ions
tau_t   = 0.1   0.1
ref_t   = 310   310
; Pressure coupling is on
Pcoupl  = Parrinello-Rahman
pcoupltype  = isotropic
tau_p   = 2.0
compressibility = 4.5e-5
ref_p   = 1.0
refcoord_scaling = com
; Generate velocities is off
gen_vel = yes
; Periodic boundary conditions are on in all directions
pbc = xyz
; Long-range dispersion correction
DispCorr= EnerPres
; Pull code
pull= constraint
pull_geometry   = distance  ; simple distance increase
pull_dim= N Y N
pull_start  = yes   ; define initial COM distance  0
pull_ngroups= 1
pull_group0 = Fixed
pull_group1 = Pull
pull_rate1  = 0.001  ; 0.01 nm per ps = 10 nm per ns
pull_k1 = 500

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Re: [gmx-users] MD in Vacuum

2013-03-14 Thread Erik Marklund

Hi,

You also need to consider the ensemble you want to investigate. If you  
simulate under constant energy you need a shorter timestep than you  
would have in solution and probably double precision. In the articles  
I list below we used a timestep of 0.5 fs and 1 fs, respectively, and  
double precision. Monitor the total energy and you will see it  
drifting early on if you e.g. have a timestep that is too long. You  
could also try to apply the constraints more accurately than default.


* Patriksson, A., Marklund, E., and Van der Spoel, D. (2007) Protein  
Structures under Electrospray Conditions. Biochemistry, 56(4):933pp
* Marklund, E. G., Larsson, S. D., Patriksson, A., Van der Spoel, D.,  
and Caleman, C. (2009) Structural stability of electrosprayed  
proteins: temperature and hydration effects. Physical Chemistry  
Chemical Physics, 11(36):8069pp


Modesto Orozco and coworkers have also simulated biomolecules in the  
gas phase. I suggest to also have a look at their work.


Best,

On Mar 13, 2013, at 8:22 PM, Justin Lemkul wrote:




On 3/13/13 12:53 PM, Lara Bunte wrote:

Hello

In all my tutorials for md they investigate a molecule in solution.  
I want to do md simulations in vacuum and I did not find a good  
tutorial. So I want to ask you what should I do for a md simulation  
in vaccum?




Consult the literature.  Tutorials will not cover every topic, and  
since most MD force fields were designed for condensed-phase  
simulations, it's awfully hard to explain to a new user why we're  
making wild changes to normal settings and hope that they  
understand :)


I take a molecule, optimize the structure, generate a topology with  
gromacs and what after this? Do I also have to make a box? what is  
the procedure?




Usually in vacuo simulations are done in the absence of periodicity  
and with infinite cutoffs.  In general, an approach like the  
following is used:


comm-mode = Angular
nstlist = 0
rlist = 0
rvdw = 0
rcoulomb = 0
pbc = no
ns-type = simple
vdwtype = cutoff
coulombtype = cutoff

Check literature to be sure to establish a protocol with some basis  
in precedent.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] position restraints

2013-03-14 Thread Erik Marklund

Restraints allow, by definition, for slight deviations.

Erik

On Mar 14, 2013, at 12:51 PM, Shima Arasteh wrote:


Dear gmx users,

I want to use restraints on backbone of my protein to keep its  
secondary structure during minimization and equilibration steps. To  
do so, I generated backbone-restrain.itp and then included it to top  
file. Next, added define = -DPOSRES to minim.mdp file.
After minimization, when I check the minimization output file, I saw  
that the backbone of input and output files are not exactly the same.
Is there any step which I have not done to set the restraints  
correctly?



Thanks in advance.

Sincerely,
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Re: [gmx-users] template parallelization

2013-03-14 Thread Erik Marklund
Do you really mean compile time? If so, issue make -j X (where x is  
the number of jobs used for building).


If you mean runtime then the easiest thing is to split your trajectory  
in parts and run the processes in parallel, then patch the results  
together. That's if the calculations can be done on a per-frame basis  
(i.e. embarrassingly parallelizable problems). Next in line is to wrap  
some performance critical loop(s) in OpenMP pragmas and link to the  
OpenMP libraries on your system. If you want others to benefit from  
the code you should adhere to the parallelization framework in  
gromacs, e.g. use gromacs' wrappers and preprocessor directives for  
OpenMP and MPI magic. The latter may be more trouble than it's worth  
if your analysis is only for a limited userbase. There is a framework  
underway in gromacs for parallel analysis tools, but as far as I know  
it's not finalized yet.


Erik

On Mar 14, 2013, at 2:22 PM, subhadipdas wrote:


First, here my system :
Cent Os 64 bits
gcc : 4.4.6
fftw : 3.3.2 including SSE 2

I am writing a code to find out the number of five and six membered  
rings in
structure I of hydrate . My code takes long time to compile for my  
500ps
trajectory . So my query is that can the template file be made to  
run in

parallel fashion ? If so ,how



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Re: [gmx-users] Re: template parallelization

2013-03-14 Thread Erik Marklund
Gromacs currently use OpenMP and/or MPI with it's own wrappers for  
parallel computation. There is a general framework being developed for  
parallelizing analysis tools, but I don't know the specifics and I  
beleive it's not ready for use yet.


Is that helping you?

Erik

On Mar 14, 2013, at 3:20 PM, subhadipdas wrote:

Sorry but i can't understand the part about parallelization  
framework in

gromacs . Can you please elaborate on this



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Re: [gmx-users] reg binding free energy

2013-03-07 Thread Erik Marklund


On Mar 7, 2013, at 2:59 AM, Justin Lemkul wrote:



On 3/6/13 8:57 PM, Vishwambhar Bhandare wrote:

dear gromacs user,
how i can do binding free energy calculation for RNA duplex in  
gromacs?

any tutorial for the same??


Free energy calculations involving interactions between  
macromolecules are typically done with umbrella sampling.  A  
tutorial is linked from gromacs.org, otherwise refer to the  
literature for suggested methodology.


The challenge is likely to find a proper reaction coordinate and  
assure that you sample sufficiently along it. You may end up wasting a  
lot of computer time if you make a poor choice.


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Re: [gmx-users] Time-Dependent Electric Field

2013-03-05 Thread Erik Marklund
From the manual it seems that oscillating electric fields are not yet  
implemented, which surprised me. I've seen colleagues use such in  
gromacs, but that may have been in-house modifications. Should be  
fairly simple to implement though.


Erik

On Mar 4, 2013, at 11:30 PM, raquick wrote:


Gromacs users,

I am trying to run a simulation with a time dependent electric field  
with
frequency of around 16 GHz in the Z direction. What numbers should I  
put in
the .mdp file following E-zt: for a field with this frequency? I  
have looked
at the source code but cannot determine what units the frequency  
should be

in.

Currently, for electric Field I have the following:

E-z = 1  .5   1
E-zt= 1 (some number) 0

I want to know what the some number should look like.

Any help is appreciated.

Regards,

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Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond and contact

2013-03-05 Thread Erik Marklund
To clarify: the -hbn output is not very indicative of how many  
contacts there were since some of them could be present in one frame  
but absent in 99. The -num option, however, provides the number of  
contacts over time, and its time average probably tells you much more  
in this case.


What version of g_hbond are you using? I remember there were several  
bugfixes over the last 6 months or so. With the latest version(s) I  
believe that the -merge flag has no effect on contact analysis, which  
is correct.


Erik

On Mar 5, 2013, at 5:20 AM, Kavyashree M wrote:

I am sorry There is no 7ws Its a typographic error. What I wanted  
to ask

was -
I am comparing two simulations S1 and S2 for contacts at a given cut  
off

I used g_mdmat and g_hbond to calculate it.
g_hbond outputs: of -num and -hbn was considered.
   1. -hbn output was analysed to calculate how many  
contacts each

   atom has from both  S1 and S2.
   2. -num output graph was compared from both S1 and S2.
g_mdmat output: of -no was considered.
   3. -no output was analysed from both S1 and S2 using the
   third column or the second Y value which gives total
contacts
   of each atom.

It was observed that 1 and 3 matched exactly giving the same  
number of

contacts each atom has (in the whole simulations). indicating that the
number
of contacts each atom has was more in S2 than S1.

But the graph from 2 indicated that the number of contacts (along  
the

trajectory)
in S1 was higher than S2.

My doubt is:
The number of contact per atom follows S2  S1
while number of contacts per time follows S1  S2.
I am unclear as to what I  have to conclude from this observations.

- I used the same cutoff throughout.
- There has not been any swapping of the trajectory while  
analysing.


Thank you
Kavya


On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 1:09 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:




On 3/4/13 1:10 PM, Kavyashree M wrote:

On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 11:10 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu  
wrote:



When measuring contacts, you don't measure one group, you measure  
the
number of contacts that occur between groups A and B, which  
considers all

atoms in those two groups.



I gave a group of hydrophobic atoms in both cases
The command I gave -
g_hbond_46  -fx.xtc-s   x.tpr-contact   -n   x.ndx   - 
r   0.4

-hbm   o.xpm   -hbn   o.ndx   -num   o.xvg
my index file contained a group of hydrophobic atoms. which I  
supplied in

the x.ndx.



 You don't define contacts in an index group, you define atoms  
that may

or
may not make contacts with others.


The one I mentioned here is the output index file from the  
g_hbond (4.6

version) - o.ndx.




 [ contacts_C_CA_CB_CD_CD1_CD2_CE_CE1_CE2_CE3_CG_CG1_CG2_CZ_***
*CZ2_CZ3_CH2

]

   5  7ws
   5 10
   5 14
   5 18
   5 22
   5 24
   5 27
   5 30
   5 35
   5292
   5296
   530


There's something very wrong with this index file.  How did you

generate
it? The presence of a repeated atom number (5) and a nonsensical  
one

(7ws)
leads me to believe that you've done something incorrect.  Did  
this come
from g_hbond? It looks like the output of -hbn, which is only  
useful for

decoding hbmap.xpm, nothing else.


I did not generate this. The tool (g_hbond) generated this index  
file.

It
is the -hbn output.



OK, then I still don't know what 7ws is, but the only purpose for  
this

file is to provide a key to the existence matrix in hbmap.xpm.  Your
previous description indicated that you were using it for some other
analysis, which would not be appropriate.

The other thing worth mentioning here is something that was posted  
to the
list just a few hours ago, that the output of g_hbond -contact may  
not
agree with other methods of calculating contacts, especially in the  
case of

-merge vs. -nomerge.

-Justin



 From this second section Total contacts was extracted for each  
atom and





compared with

that from a second simulation.
These contacts was matching with the contacts of the 3rd column  
from

g_mdmat output -
@ legend string 0 Total/mean
@ legend string 1 Total
@ legend string 2 Mean
@ legend string 3 # atoms
@ legend string 4 Mean/# atoms
#resratio  tot  mean  natm  mean/atm
   1 1.001   1110.991110.991
   2 1.244   10 8.0411 8.041
   3 1.166   1311.147111.147
   4 1.036   1110.615110.615


While the time dependent contacts in the xvg file shows that the  
first

simulation has more
contacts than the second one..


That shouldn't be unexpected.  Two independent simulations have no
guarantee of doing the same thing, that's why sampling is so  
important.




Thank you
kavya



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Re: [gmx-users] g_hbond and contact

2013-03-05 Thread Erik Marklund


On Mar 5, 2013, at 10:34 AM, Kavyashree M wrote:


Sir,

I used gromacs 4.6. I got the point - index file will tell how many
contacts an
atom has made during the trajectory. Whether it has made a contact  
with an

atom only in once or all the time, in the whole trajectory, it will be
mentioned.
Am I right?


Yes.



So from the problem I had, can I say that no. of contact/atom had  
increased

in S2 while the no. of contact/time decreased?


That depends. If 'contact' means unique interactions and 'atom' means  
e.g. all atoms in in your system, then yes.




Its a bit confusing though!

Thank you
kavya

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 2:26 PM, Erik Marklund er...@xray.bmc.uu.se  
wrote:


To clarify: the -hbn output is not very indicative of how many  
contacts
there were since some of them could be present in one frame but  
absent in
99. The -num option, however, provides the number of contacts  
over

time, and its time average probably tells you much more in this case.

What version of g_hbond are you using? I remember there were several
bugfixes over the last 6 months or so. With the latest version(s) I  
believe
that the -merge flag has no effect on contact analysis, which is  
correct.


Erik



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Re: [gmx-users] Difference in Number of contacts through g_hbond and g_mindist

2013-03-04 Thread Erik Marklund
As Justin implied, -merge could potentially make a factor of 2. Try  
g_hbond -nomerge.


Erik

On Mar 4, 2013, at 4:02 PM, bipin singh wrote:


Thanks for the reply.
The difference is almost double, through g_hbond the average number of
contacts are 1821 and through g_mindist it is 3643. The calculation  
group

does not contains hydrogen atoms.


On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:




On 3/4/13 9:08 AM, bipin singh wrote:


Hi All,

I have a doubt regarding the calculation of number of contacts  
between two
groups. Because, I am getting different number of contacts  
calculated

through g_hbond -contact option and g_mindist -on option.
I have used same cutoff for distance (0.6nm) in both the cases.



How different are the results?  The g_hbond code is very complex, but
you'd probably have to go into the inner workings of both programs to
understand why.  I also do not know whether other settings in  
g_hbond will
matter, like -merge, or whether or not g_hbond will only calculate  
contacts

among H-bond participating groups.

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] do_dssp

2013-03-02 Thread Erik Marklund

Hi,

I'll try out the 2.1.0 with do_dssp and see if there's something  
problematic with this new version. Good thing you brought it up.


Erik

On Mar 1, 2013, at 6:24 PM, Miguel Ángel Mompeán García wrote:


Hi Erik,

Since I read in the mailing list that nobody had asked about 2.1.0,  
just
decided to try an older version before going into the trouble  
itself...

Kind of coward, I know, but the troubles with that version are already
reported so that  I thought things would be easier :)
Thank-you a lot for your comments



2013/3/1 Erik Marklund er...@xray.bmc.uu.se


Interesting. Perhaps there are new issues with 2.1.0. Did you try to
execute the command yourself?

Erik


On Mar 1, 2013, at 5:16 PM, Miguel Ángel Mompeán García wrote:

The issue I mentioned was with dssp-2.1.0.  I changed to 2.0.1 and it

works
fine. However, when converting the xpm to eps I get I plot very  
small,
where one barely can see the colour code and the legend is sooo  
big. Does

anyone know how to change that?





2013/3/1 Erik Marklund er...@xray.bmc.uu.se

What happens if you execute the command (/usr/local/bin/dssp/ -i  
ddQ3PqtX

-o ddR1HavD) in your terminal?


Erik

On Mar 1, 2013, at 1:06 PM, Miguel Ángel Mompeán García wrote:

I am using gromacs 4.6 and dssp-2.1.0 and I am getting that error  
you

got:



dssp cmd='/usr/local/bin/dssp/ -i ddQ3PqtX -o ddR1HavD  /dev/ 
null 2

/dev/null'
Reading frame   0 time0.000
Back Off! I just backed up ddQ3PqtX to ./#ddQ3PqtX.1#

---
Program do_dssp, VERSION 4.6
Source code file: /usr/local/bin/gromacs-4.6/
src/tools/gmx_do_dssp.c,

line:
667

Fatal error:
Failed to execute command: Try specifying your dssp version with  
the

-ver
option.

How can I fix that?

Thanks







2013/1/15 James Starlight jmsstarli...@gmail.com

Justin, thanks both options works perfect.




James

2013/1/15 Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu:




On 1/15/13 7:13 AM, James Starlight wrote:



Justin,


I  want to obtain timescale on X as well as number of  
residues on Y
on the xmp graph . By  default that graph has not legend so  
it's hard

to analyse it .


The legends are printed in the .xvg header.  I've never had a

problem
plotting its contents (though they are usually somewhat  
unclear when


plotted


together) with xmgrace -nxy scount.xvg



By the way have you forced with some problems with dppc ?  
Simetimes



I've obtain error like


There are 286 residues in your selected group
dssp cmd='/usr/local/bin/dssp -i dd42GVbd -o ddpu8ln2  /dev/ 
null 2

/dev/null'
Reading frame   0 time0.000
Back Off! I just backed up dd42GVbd to ./#dd42GVbd.1


Fatal error:
Failed to execute command: Try specifying your dssp version  
with the

-ver option.

and I dont know how to fix it.

I'm using gromacs-4.6-beta 3 with dssp 2.0.3


Since dssp changed its command line options, Gromacs had to  
adapt as


well.


The error tells you to use the -ver option; you should do so.

Version 2
should be the default, so check to make sure you're actually  
using

that
version and not the old dssp.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] removing number of sol

2013-03-02 Thread Erik Marklund
If you have a pdb file instead of a gro file then e.g. pymol might be  
useful.


Erik

On Mar 2, 2013, at 2:01 PM, gromacs query wrote:


Dear Erik,

I am new to Gromacs and used AMBER before, and I am exploring various
options in GROMACS too. Surely I will look in to g_select. Also as I  
was
using sed, one should include an extra space (using vi) in gro file  
just
before residue number and then can use sed to remove like this: sed - 
e '/
35SOL/d' -e '/ 36SOL/d' -e '/ 38SOL/d' -e '/ 39SOL/d' old.gro   
new2.gro


But please note I included an extra space / 35SOL/d (instead of / 
35SOL/d)

by this sed will remove 35SOL not 135SOL.

regards,


On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Erik Marklund er...@xray.bmc.uu.se  
wrote:



Hi,

Then the problem lies in automating what molecules are to be removed,
right? Try g_select or look into trjorder.

Erik


On Mar 1, 2013, at 2:45 PM, gromacs query wrote:

Aha! thanks Erik (and Justin),


I really feel sorry 35 and 135 will be removed by sed. I must have  
given a
thought about that. So this was reason sed was over doing the  
things. Also

as you asked: They are random residue number water molecules so
not continuous and they were selected on the criteria based on X Y Z
coordinates (some space fixed and outlier waters are to be removed)

regards,


On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Erik Marklund er...@xray.bmc.uu.se
wrote:



On Mar 1, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Erik Marklund wrote:


On Mar 1, 2013, at 1:58 PM, gromacs query wrote:


Dear Erik,



so you can filter out the unwanted residues there instead of  
using an





index file.




There are thousands of water to be removed so simple commands  
like sed

exhausts when I run it in loops. e.g. Just to say :

sed -e '/35SOL/d' -e '/36SOL/d' -e '/38SOL/d' -e '/39SOL/d' -e
'/40SOL/d'
-e '/41SOL/d' -e '/42SOL/d' -e '/43SOL/d' -e '/44SOL/d' -e '/ 
45SOL/d'

old.gro  new2.gro

this will remove such 10 residues but if you run this again and  
again

(in
text exe format) say 1000 times it exhausts some how and remove  
waters
which are not even mentioned in sed command! I have checked it  
many

times.
So I thought if index file could help me. But please reply for  
point 3:



First of all, that's not a safe way of removing waters. Note  
that both
SOL 35, SOL 135, ... will be removed by that command. Secondly,  
I'm sure
you can think of a better way of scripting it, using e.g. sed or  
awk. By

which criteria do you select the waters to be removed?



If its a contiguous chunk then it's dead simple.





3) Also once I get index file can editconf help to write a new gro





without the residues mentioned in index file?. I used this

editconf -f


my.gro -n index.ndx -o del.gro .



thanks,

This gave me del.gro having residues mentioned in index file.  
But I

want
del.gro file without the residues mentioned in index file.

On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Erik Marklund er...@xray.bmc.uu.se 


wrote:

The ndx format is really simple. You can easily script your way  
to a

new


index group as long as the selection of atoms can be automated.
Furthermore, the gro format is also simple, so you can filter  
out the

unwanted residues there instead of using an index file.

Erik


On Mar 1, 2013, at 1:42 PM, gromacs query wrote:

Dear All,


I know the residue numbers of SOL molecules (which are more  
than

thousands)
which I want to remove them from a gro file. I searched that  
make_ndx

can
be used make a index file to define residues. But It is a  
prompt

based
tool
and its difficult to type manually thousands of residue  
numbers.


1) Is there some way to feed the residue numbers to make_ndx?  
Or I

need to
make index file format my self by some scritpting Or is there  
is

rather
easier way of doing in gromacs.

2) Also is there any direct command which helps to remove a  
residue

number
directly from a gro file without using index file input; means
residue
defined in command itself?

3) Also once I get index file can editconf help to write a  
new gro

without
the residues mentioned in index file?. I used this editconf - 
f my.gro

-n
index.ndx -o del.gro .

This gave me del.gro having residues mentioned in index file.  
But I

want
del.gro file without the residues mentioned in index file.


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Re: [gmx-users] do_dssp

2013-03-01 Thread Erik Marklund
With -ver, just like it says. do_dssp -h explains how. What dssp  
version do you have?


Erik

On Mar 1, 2013, at 1:06 PM, Miguel Ángel Mompeán García wrote:

I am using gromacs 4.6 and dssp-2.1.0 and I am getting that error  
you got:


dssp cmd='/usr/local/bin/dssp/ -i ddQ3PqtX -o ddR1HavD  /dev/null 2
/dev/null'
Reading frame   0 time0.000
Back Off! I just backed up ddQ3PqtX to ./#ddQ3PqtX.1#

---
Program do_dssp, VERSION 4.6
Source code file: /usr/local/bin/gromacs-4.6/src/tools/ 
gmx_do_dssp.c, line:

667

Fatal error:
Failed to execute command: Try specifying your dssp version with the  
-ver

option.

How can I fix that?

Thanks







2013/1/15 James Starlight jmsstarli...@gmail.com


Justin, thanks both options works perfect.


James

2013/1/15 Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu:



On 1/15/13 7:13 AM, James Starlight wrote:


Justin,


 I  want to obtain timescale on X as well as number of residues  
on Y
on the xmp graph . By  default that graph has not legend so it's  
hard

to analyse it .



The legends are printed in the .xvg header.  I've never had a  
problem

plotting its contents (though they are usually somewhat unclear when

plotted

together) with xmgrace -nxy scount.xvg



By the way have you forced with some problems with dppc ? Simetimes
I've obtain error like


There are 286 residues in your selected group
dssp cmd='/usr/local/bin/dssp -i dd42GVbd -o ddpu8ln2  /dev/null  
2

/dev/null'
Reading frame   0 time0.000
Back Off! I just backed up dd42GVbd to ./#dd42GVbd.1


Fatal error:
Failed to execute command: Try specifying your dssp version with  
the

-ver option.

and I dont know how to fix it.

I'm using gromacs-4.6-beta 3 with dssp 2.0.3



Since dssp changed its command line options, Gromacs had to adapt as

well.
The error tells you to use the -ver option; you should do so.   
Version 2
should be the default, so check to make sure you're actually using  
that

version and not the old dssp.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] removing number of sol

2013-03-01 Thread Erik Marklund
The ndx format is really simple. You can easily script your way to a  
new index group as long as the selection of atoms can be automated.  
Furthermore, the gro format is also simple, so you can filter out the  
unwanted residues there instead of using an index file.


Erik

On Mar 1, 2013, at 1:42 PM, gromacs query wrote:


Dear All,

I know the residue numbers of SOL molecules (which are more than  
thousands)
which I want to remove them from a gro file. I searched that  
make_ndx can
be used make a index file to define residues. But It is a prompt  
based tool

and its difficult to type manually thousands of residue numbers.

1) Is there some way to feed the residue numbers to make_ndx? Or I  
need to
make index file format my self by some scritpting Or is there is  
rather

easier way of doing in gromacs.

2) Also is there any direct command which helps to remove a residue  
number

directly from a gro file without using index file input; means residue
defined in command itself?

3) Also once I get index file can editconf help to write a new gro  
without
the residues mentioned in index file?. I used this editconf -f  
my.gro -n

index.ndx -o del.gro .

This gave me del.gro having residues mentioned in index file. But I  
want

del.gro file without the residues mentioned in index file.


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Re: [gmx-users] do_dssp

2013-03-01 Thread Erik Marklund
What happens if you execute the command (/usr/local/bin/dssp/ -i  
ddQ3PqtX -o ddR1HavD) in your terminal?


Erik

On Mar 1, 2013, at 1:06 PM, Miguel Ángel Mompeán García wrote:

I am using gromacs 4.6 and dssp-2.1.0 and I am getting that error  
you got:


dssp cmd='/usr/local/bin/dssp/ -i ddQ3PqtX -o ddR1HavD  /dev/null 2
/dev/null'
Reading frame   0 time0.000
Back Off! I just backed up ddQ3PqtX to ./#ddQ3PqtX.1#

---
Program do_dssp, VERSION 4.6
Source code file: /usr/local/bin/gromacs-4.6/src/tools/ 
gmx_do_dssp.c, line:

667

Fatal error:
Failed to execute command: Try specifying your dssp version with the  
-ver

option.

How can I fix that?

Thanks







2013/1/15 James Starlight jmsstarli...@gmail.com


Justin, thanks both options works perfect.


James

2013/1/15 Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu:



On 1/15/13 7:13 AM, James Starlight wrote:


Justin,


 I  want to obtain timescale on X as well as number of residues  
on Y
on the xmp graph . By  default that graph has not legend so it's  
hard

to analyse it .



The legends are printed in the .xvg header.  I've never had a  
problem

plotting its contents (though they are usually somewhat unclear when

plotted

together) with xmgrace -nxy scount.xvg



By the way have you forced with some problems with dppc ? Simetimes
I've obtain error like


There are 286 residues in your selected group
dssp cmd='/usr/local/bin/dssp -i dd42GVbd -o ddpu8ln2  /dev/null  
2

/dev/null'
Reading frame   0 time0.000
Back Off! I just backed up dd42GVbd to ./#dd42GVbd.1


Fatal error:
Failed to execute command: Try specifying your dssp version with  
the

-ver option.

and I dont know how to fix it.

I'm using gromacs-4.6-beta 3 with dssp 2.0.3



Since dssp changed its command line options, Gromacs had to adapt as

well.
The error tells you to use the -ver option; you should do so.   
Version 2
should be the default, so check to make sure you're actually using  
that

version and not the old dssp.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] removing number of sol

2013-03-01 Thread Erik Marklund


On Mar 1, 2013, at 1:58 PM, gromacs query wrote:


Dear Erik,

so you can filter out the unwanted residues there instead of using  
an

index file.

There are thousands of water to be removed so simple commands like sed
exhausts when I run it in loops. e.g. Just to say :

sed -e '/35SOL/d' -e '/36SOL/d' -e '/38SOL/d' -e '/39SOL/d' -e '/ 
40SOL/d'

-e '/41SOL/d' -e '/42SOL/d' -e '/43SOL/d' -e '/44SOL/d' -e '/45SOL/d'
old.gro  new2.gro

this will remove such 10 residues but if you run this again and  
again (in

text exe format) say 1000 times it exhausts some how and remove waters
which are not even mentioned in sed command! I have checked it many  
times.
So I thought if index file could help me. But please reply for point  
3:


First of all, that's not a safe way of removing waters. Note that both  
SOL 35, SOL 135, ... will be removed by that command. Secondly, I'm  
sure you can think of a better way of scripting it, using e.g. sed or  
awk. By which criteria do you select the waters to be removed?





3) Also once I get index file can editconf help to write a new gro

without the residues mentioned in index file?. I used this editconf -f
my.gro -n index.ndx -o del.gro .


thanks,

This gave me del.gro having residues mentioned in index file. But I  
want

del.gro file without the residues mentioned in index file.

On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Erik Marklund er...@xray.bmc.uu.se  
wrote:


The ndx format is really simple. You can easily script your way to  
a new

index group as long as the selection of atoms can be automated.
Furthermore, the gro format is also simple, so you can filter out the
unwanted residues there instead of using an index file.

Erik


On Mar 1, 2013, at 1:42 PM, gromacs query wrote:

Dear All,


I know the residue numbers of SOL molecules (which are more than
thousands)
which I want to remove them from a gro file. I searched that  
make_ndx can
be used make a index file to define residues. But It is a prompt  
based

tool
and its difficult to type manually thousands of residue numbers.

1) Is there some way to feed the residue numbers to make_ndx? Or I  
need to
make index file format my self by some scritpting Or is there is  
rather

easier way of doing in gromacs.

2) Also is there any direct command which helps to remove a  
residue number
directly from a gro file without using index file input; means  
residue

defined in command itself?

3) Also once I get index file can editconf help to write a new gro  
without
the residues mentioned in index file?. I used this editconf -f  
my.gro -n

index.ndx -o del.gro .

This gave me del.gro having residues mentioned in index file. But  
I want

del.gro file without the residues mentioned in index file.


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Re: [gmx-users] removing number of sol

2013-03-01 Thread Erik Marklund


On Mar 1, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Erik Marklund wrote:



On Mar 1, 2013, at 1:58 PM, gromacs query wrote:


Dear Erik,

so you can filter out the unwanted residues there instead of  
using an

index file.

There are thousands of water to be removed so simple commands like  
sed

exhausts when I run it in loops. e.g. Just to say :

sed -e '/35SOL/d' -e '/36SOL/d' -e '/38SOL/d' -e '/39SOL/d' -e '/ 
40SOL/d'

-e '/41SOL/d' -e '/42SOL/d' -e '/43SOL/d' -e '/44SOL/d' -e '/45SOL/d'
old.gro  new2.gro

this will remove such 10 residues but if you run this again and  
again (in
text exe format) say 1000 times it exhausts some how and remove  
waters
which are not even mentioned in sed command! I have checked it many  
times.
So I thought if index file could help me. But please reply for  
point 3:


First of all, that's not a safe way of removing waters. Note that  
both SOL 35, SOL 135, ... will be removed by that command. Secondly,  
I'm sure you can think of a better way of scripting it, using e.g.  
sed or awk. By which criteria do you select the waters to be removed?


If its a contiguous chunk then it's dead simple.






3) Also once I get index file can editconf help to write a new gro
without the residues mentioned in index file?. I used this editconf  
-f

my.gro -n index.ndx -o del.gro .


thanks,

This gave me del.gro having residues mentioned in index file. But I  
want

del.gro file without the residues mentioned in index file.

On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Erik Marklund  
er...@xray.bmc.uu.se wrote:


The ndx format is really simple. You can easily script your way to  
a new

index group as long as the selection of atoms can be automated.
Furthermore, the gro format is also simple, so you can filter out  
the

unwanted residues there instead of using an index file.

Erik


On Mar 1, 2013, at 1:42 PM, gromacs query wrote:

Dear All,


I know the residue numbers of SOL molecules (which are more than
thousands)
which I want to remove them from a gro file. I searched that  
make_ndx can
be used make a index file to define residues. But It is a prompt  
based

tool
and its difficult to type manually thousands of residue numbers.

1) Is there some way to feed the residue numbers to make_ndx? Or  
I need to
make index file format my self by some scritpting Or is there is  
rather

easier way of doing in gromacs.

2) Also is there any direct command which helps to remove a  
residue number
directly from a gro file without using index file input; means  
residue

defined in command itself?

3) Also once I get index file can editconf help to write a new  
gro without
the residues mentioned in index file?. I used this editconf -f  
my.gro -n

index.ndx -o del.gro .

This gave me del.gro having residues mentioned in index file. But  
I want

del.gro file without the residues mentioned in index file.


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Re: [gmx-users] removing number of sol

2013-03-01 Thread Erik Marklund

Hi,

Then the problem lies in automating what molecules are to be removed,  
right? Try g_select or look into trjorder.


Erik

On Mar 1, 2013, at 2:45 PM, gromacs query wrote:


Aha! thanks Erik (and Justin),

I really feel sorry 35 and 135 will be removed by sed. I must have  
given a
thought about that. So this was reason sed was over doing the  
things. Also

as you asked: They are random residue number water molecules so
not continuous and they were selected on the criteria based on X Y Z
coordinates (some space fixed and outlier waters are to be removed)

regards,


On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Erik Marklund er...@xray.bmc.uu.se  
wrote:




On Mar 1, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Erik Marklund wrote:



On Mar 1, 2013, at 1:58 PM, gromacs query wrote:

Dear Erik,


so you can filter out the unwanted residues there instead of  
using an



index file.


There are thousands of water to be removed so simple commands  
like sed

exhausts when I run it in loops. e.g. Just to say :

sed -e '/35SOL/d' -e '/36SOL/d' -e '/38SOL/d' -e '/39SOL/d' -e '/ 
40SOL/d'
-e '/41SOL/d' -e '/42SOL/d' -e '/43SOL/d' -e '/44SOL/d' -e '/ 
45SOL/d'

old.gro  new2.gro

this will remove such 10 residues but if you run this again and  
again (in
text exe format) say 1000 times it exhausts some how and remove  
waters

which are not even mentioned in sed command! I have checked it many
times.
So I thought if index file could help me. But please reply for  
point 3:




First of all, that's not a safe way of removing waters. Note that  
both
SOL 35, SOL 135, ... will be removed by that command. Secondly,  
I'm sure
you can think of a better way of scripting it, using e.g. sed or  
awk. By

which criteria do you select the waters to be removed?



If its a contiguous chunk then it's dead simple.






3) Also once I get index file can editconf help to write a new gro


without the residues mentioned in index file?. I used this  
editconf -f

my.gro -n index.ndx -o del.gro .


thanks,

This gave me del.gro having residues mentioned in index file. But  
I want

del.gro file without the residues mentioned in index file.

On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Erik Marklund  
er...@xray.bmc.uu.se

wrote:

The ndx format is really simple. You can easily script your way  
to a new

index group as long as the selection of atoms can be automated.
Furthermore, the gro format is also simple, so you can filter  
out the

unwanted residues there instead of using an index file.

Erik


On Mar 1, 2013, at 1:42 PM, gromacs query wrote:

Dear All,



I know the residue numbers of SOL molecules (which are more than
thousands)
which I want to remove them from a gro file. I searched that  
make_ndx

can
be used make a index file to define residues. But It is a  
prompt based

tool
and its difficult to type manually thousands of residue numbers.

1) Is there some way to feed the residue numbers to make_ndx?  
Or I

need to
make index file format my self by some scritpting Or is there  
is rather

easier way of doing in gromacs.

2) Also is there any direct command which helps to remove a  
residue

number
directly from a gro file without using index file input; means  
residue

defined in command itself?

3) Also once I get index file can editconf help to write a new  
gro

without
the residues mentioned in index file?. I used this editconf -f  
my.gro

-n
index.ndx -o del.gro .

This gave me del.gro having residues mentioned in index file.  
But I

want
del.gro file without the residues mentioned in index file.


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Re: [gmx-users] do_dssp

2013-03-01 Thread Erik Marklund
Interesting. Perhaps there are new issues with 2.1.0. Did you try to  
execute the command yourself?


Erik

On Mar 1, 2013, at 5:16 PM, Miguel Ángel Mompeán García wrote:

The issue I mentioned was with dssp-2.1.0.  I changed to 2.0.1 and  
it works

fine. However, when converting the xpm to eps I get I plot very small,
where one barely can see the colour code and the legend is sooo big.  
Does

anyone know how to change that?





2013/3/1 Erik Marklund er...@xray.bmc.uu.se

What happens if you execute the command (/usr/local/bin/dssp/ -i  
ddQ3PqtX

-o ddR1HavD) in your terminal?


Erik

On Mar 1, 2013, at 1:06 PM, Miguel Ángel Mompeán García wrote:

I am using gromacs 4.6 and dssp-2.1.0 and I am getting that error  
you got:


dssp cmd='/usr/local/bin/dssp/ -i ddQ3PqtX -o ddR1HavD  /dev/null  
2

/dev/null'
Reading frame   0 time0.000
Back Off! I just backed up ddQ3PqtX to ./#ddQ3PqtX.1#

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Program do_dssp, VERSION 4.6
Source code file: /usr/local/bin/gromacs-4.6/**src/tools/ 
gmx_do_dssp.c,

line:
667

Fatal error:
Failed to execute command: Try specifying your dssp version with  
the -ver

option.

How can I fix that?

Thanks







2013/1/15 James Starlight jmsstarli...@gmail.com

Justin, thanks both options works perfect.



James

2013/1/15 Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu:




On 1/15/13 7:13 AM, James Starlight wrote:



Justin,


I  want to obtain timescale on X as well as number of residues  
on Y
on the xmp graph . By  default that graph has not legend so  
it's hard

to analyse it .


The legends are printed in the .xvg header.  I've never had a  
problem
plotting its contents (though they are usually somewhat unclear  
when



plotted


together) with xmgrace -nxy scount.xvg


By the way have you forced with some problems with dppc ?  
Simetimes

I've obtain error like


There are 286 residues in your selected group
dssp cmd='/usr/local/bin/dssp -i dd42GVbd -o ddpu8ln2  /dev/ 
null 2

/dev/null'
Reading frame   0 time0.000
Back Off! I just backed up dd42GVbd to ./#dd42GVbd.1


Fatal error:
Failed to execute command: Try specifying your dssp version  
with the

-ver option.

and I dont know how to fix it.

I'm using gromacs-4.6-beta 3 with dssp 2.0.3


Since dssp changed its command line options, Gromacs had to  
adapt as



well.

The error tells you to use the -ver option; you should do so.   
Version 2
should be the default, so check to make sure you're actually  
using that

version and not the old dssp.


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Re: [gmx-users] Number of interactions per residue

2013-02-18 Thread Erik Marklund

Hi,

With -r2 one can provide a second, larger, cutoff so that contact  
kinetics can be analyzed within the Luzar-Chandler framework that were  
designed for hbonds.


What index groups did you use?

Erik

On Feb 18, 2013, at 6:04 PM, Kavyashree M wrote:


Dear users,

As Suggested by Erik, I used g_hbond with -contact  to obtain a  
matrix of

each contact as a function of time. I used the following command -
g_hbond -f a.xtc -s a.tpr -contact -r2 0.5 -hbm m.xpm -b 4000 -e  
4400 -hbn

c.ndx

I get only three contacts in the index file. The protein is a dimer  
of 474

residues
(237 each). With a distance cut off of 0.5nm there should have been  
more

number
of contacts. And what is the difference in using -r only or -r2 only  
and

combining -r
and -r2?

Thank you
Kavya

On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Kavyashree M hmkv...@gmail.com  
wrote:



Thank you!


On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Erik Marklund  
er...@xray.bmc.uu.sewrote:



Perhaps g_hbond -contact will do what you want.

Erik


On Feb 14, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Kavyashree M wrote:

Dear users,


How can I get the number of interactions of each residue
within a cut off as a function of time. just like g_saltbr writes
with the option -sep.
I tried using g_mdmat but it gives an average contact map.

Thank you
Kavya
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Re: [gmx-users] Number of interactions per residue

2013-02-14 Thread Erik Marklund

Perhaps g_hbond -contact will do what you want.

Erik

On Feb 14, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Kavyashree M wrote:


Dear users,

How can I get the number of interactions of each residue
within a cut off as a function of time. just like g_saltbr writes
with the option -sep.
I tried using g_mdmat but it gives an average contact map.

Thank you
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Re: [gmx-users] different springs - WHAM

2013-02-14 Thread Erik Marklund


On Feb 14, 2013, at 2:01 PM, Justin Lemkul wrote:




On 2/13/13 5:23 PM, Steven Neumann wrote:
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu  
wrote:



On 2/12/13 9:57 AM, Steven Neumann wrote:


On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu  
wrote:




On 2/12/13 9:40 AM, Steven Neumann wrote:



Dear Gmx Users,

I know it is possible to combine windows with different spring
constants into the one PMF curve using g_wham.

Do I have to somehow tell g_wham that one or two windows have
different spring constants?



No, they are read from the .tpr files.


For instance - I got the better histogram overlap with lower  
force
constant in one window. When I replace this window into the  
window

with the sring constant like all windwos (worse overlap) both PMF
curves differ app. 2kcal/mol which is around 30% of the overall
deltaG.

Is there any error I should inroduce when one window differ in  
terms of

k1?



What does g_wham's error analysis suggest?

-Justin



In both PMF error estimate with bayesian bootstraping is app. 0.2  
kcal/mol




Seems like a good result, so what's the problem?

-Justin


That the better overlap of histograms produce worse deltaG comparing
to experiment. With all the same spring constants I get the
experimental value of deltaG but there is a poor overlap. There must
be (somehow) a correction added to deltaG when introdcuing windows
with different spring constants.



The code and/or g_wham paper should address this.  In principle,  
WHAM can be conducted with any assortment of spring constants you  
like.  If you track down a bug or something, please report it on  
redmine.gromacs.org.


I read (and hacked) g_wham not that long ago. If I recall correctly it  
reads the force constants from the tpr. In fact, without those it  
would not be able to use pullf files.




A workaround of course would be to simply add another window (or  
windows) with the same original force constant that gives adequate  
sampling.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Need advice on appending aa residues to the sequence

2013-02-13 Thread Erik Marklund

Hi,

I have used MacroMolecule Builder for similar things.

Erik

On Feb 13, 2013, at 4:41 AM, zugunder wrote:


Hi,

I am sorry if this topic is not relevant for GROMACS forum, but I hope
someone has faced the same problem before and could give me some  
advice...


I need to simulate a relatively short protein (170aa) in water. No
structures are available for it, so I used a Modeller web server to  
get
some. Unfortunately, they only provided me with several truncated  
structures
(with relatively high scores though) of 40 and 130aa length.  
However, they
do not overlap and the gap is 4aa long. While doing a research on  
the better
way to stitch them I ran a couple of simulations of 2 most high  
scoring

structures for a 130fragment (C-term) and one of them seems to fold
relatively quickly.
The problem now is that I can't find a way to append those 4  
residues to
either of the sequences and stitch them into one to simulate the  
complete
thing. I found several references to DeepView software, but it does  
not seem

to work in my hands (or probably I am missing something).
So if someone has faced the same problem or has any ideas on how to  
do this
kind of reconstruction of the sequence for further simulation, I'd  
really

appreciate any tips, advice or other input.

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Re: [gmx-users] installation

2013-02-13 Thread Erik Marklund
It shouldn't generate output. It will make your system find your  
gromacs installation, however. Try e.g. which mdrun.


Erik

On Feb 13, 2013, at 5:06 AM, David Sáez wrote:


Thanks for your answer Justin. I followed your advice:
When I type
*$ source /usr/local/gromacs/bin/GMXRC*
*$*

Nothing happened, the prompt returns normally and no action is  
executed. Do

you have any idea?


On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 11:27 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu  
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On 2/12/13 9:24 PM, David Sáez wrote:

Hello everybody, I'm trying to install Gromacs 4.6 in my Ubuntu  
12.04

laptop. As I am not a a skilled user, I tried the Quick and Dirty
Installation, After following the instructions I obtained this  
message

when
trying to execute GMXRC:

david@HAL-9000:~$ /usr/local/gromacs/bin/GMXRC
/usr/local/gromacs/bin/GMXRC: line 34: return: can only `return'  
from a

function or sourced script
/usr/local/gromacs/bin/GMXRC: line 43: CSH:: command not found
/usr/local/gromacs/bin/GMXRC.**csh: line 8: syntax error near  
unexpected

token `setenv'
/usr/local/gromacs/bin/GMXRC.**csh: line 8: `if (! $? 
LD_LIBRARY_PATH)

setenv
LD_LIBRARY_PATH '

Could someone give some help?



Note the first error - you need to source the file.

$ source /usr/local/gromacs/bin/GMXRC

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Re: [gmx-users] Calculation of the Force on the center of bonds

2013-02-11 Thread Erik Marklund

Try virtual sites constructions.

On Feb 11, 2013, at 6:01 PM, Rasoul Nasiri wrote:


Dear All,

I need to define interaction sites on the center of C-H bonds instead
of nuclei of each atom. The main reason was that non-bonding
parameters (sigma and epsilon) have been parametrized in these centers
and those are only available for the center of C-H.


So, I just wanted to know how calculation of force can be implemented
by GROMACS in this case.



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Re: [gmx-users] The time for the temperature and pressure coupling

2013-02-07 Thread Erik Marklund

Hi,

Perhaps a side point: Temperature and pressure can not be seen as  
constraints to the system at any given instant in the sense that e.g.  
the instantaneous kinetic energy perfectly match the temperature at  
every time step just because you have a thermostat. Time and ensemble  
averages will, however, reflect the temperature and pressure coupling.


Erik

On Feb 6, 2013, at 11:28 PM, Bao Kai wrote:


Dear Gromacs Team,

I have a small question related to the scheme of the MD in Gromacs.

When are the temperature and pressure constrains are enforced, before
the update of the velocity and position or after?

Thank you very much.

Best Regards,
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Re: [gmx-users] RNA MD

2013-02-07 Thread Erik Marklund
I've never seen good parameters for nucleic acids. There might be  
such, but none that ship with gromacs as far as I know.


Erik

On Feb 7, 2013, at 4:25 AM, 김현식 wrote:


Dear experts,
Hello!
Is it possible to run RNA md with GBSA?


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Re: [gmx-users] Regarding manual velocity generation in simulation

2013-02-05 Thread Erik Marklund


On Feb 5, 2013, at 8:22 AM, bipin singh wrote:


Hello All,

Please let me know whether is it possible to manually assign the  
velocity

for each atom in the simulation instead of generating through gen_vel
option.


If the preceision of a gro-file is sufficient you can use such for  
manually setting velocities of individual atoms.




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Re: [gmx-users] Dynamics of the salt-bridges

2013-02-04 Thread Erik Marklund

Hi,

If you don't care about the exact distances, but rather the time the  
groups spend within a certain distance, g_hbond -contact can be useful.


Best,
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On Feb 3, 2013, at 6:36 PM, James Starlight wrote:


Justin,

1 )for example I want to select in index file only all asp, glu and
his residues ( I could find selection by residue type only).

2) Than I'd like that gromacs compute dynamics of the distance between
that charge groups (providing only truncated .tpr file as the input)
but only. Could other than g_saltbr gromacs tools be used for that
(E,g g_dist ) ?


James

2013/2/3 Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu:



On 2/3/13 1:01 AM, James Starlight wrote:


Justin,

thanks again for suggestions.

I'm not quite sure how I can use tpbconv -zeroq. For example I  
want to
reduce charges of all amino acids except Asp Glu and His ( to  
monitor

s.b dynamics between that groups only).

As I understood -zeroq working with the groups defined in the index
file so I should just  select all residues that I need in that file,
shouldnt it  ? Also doest it possible to select pairs of residues



Yes.



placed in the sequence on the distant sites ? (e.g by selecting only
pairs within some range of n1 and n2+k where kn1+10)



I don't understand what you mean.  tpbconv will only take one index  
group
for zeroing charges, so I don't understand how such a relative  
scheme would

work for all cases.


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Re: [gmx-users] How to analysis 10 ns from 20 ns simulation

2013-02-04 Thread Erik Marklund

HI,

It should read trjconv. And all analysis tools have the -b and -e  
flags for excluding the start or the end of a trajectory.


Erik

On Feb 4, 2013, at 7:00 AM, Emanuel Birru wrote:


Use trajconv

http://manual.gromacs.org/online/trjconv.html

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Subject: [gmx-users] How to analysis 10 ns from 20 ns simulation

Dear users

   I performed 20 ns simulation for protein complex.  
After 10 ns only my system obtained equilibration state .
   I would like to analyze last 10 ns from the  
trajectory file.I got problem to generate last 10 ns xtc file from  
the 20 ns trr file.


   so, plz help me to sort out this problem

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Re: [gmx-users] Visualize Protein ligand complex after simulation

2013-01-28 Thread Erik Marklund
Short answer is to inspect your complex with VMD or Pymol (or some  
other viewer). Pymol takes pdb input, so unless your structure is  
contained in a pdb file you must convert it with e.g. trjconv first.  
If you want a single frame you need to extract one form your  
trajectory, or, if the final frame form your simulation suffices, then  
use the -c output from mdrun. Most likely you will want to take care  
of the periodic boundary conditions, so a round of trjconv is probably  
needed anyway.


Ask again or look at the gromacs mailing-list archive if there is  
anything specific that puzzles you.


Erik

On Jan 28, 2013, at 3:30 PM, Sainitin Donakonda wrote:


Hello,

Recently i started working on molecular dynamics on my protein ligand
complex using gromacs i successfully did simulation but i dont know   
how to

visualize this protein-ligand complex this after MD simulation

Can any body tell me how to do it?

Thanks
Nitin
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Re: [gmx-users] RMSD

2013-01-25 Thread Erik Marklund


On Jan 25, 2013, at 5:53 AM, Shima Arasteh wrote:




Thanks for your reply.
I want to chose one of the 5 conformers from a NMR PDB. As I studied  
in literature, the average structure could be selected regarding  
RMSD values and the go on with selected one to simulate in in water,  
lipid bilayer.
All right, I may make a matrix, but how would I chose my purposed  
conformers?



 Thanks for all your suggestions.

Sincerely,
Shima



From: Leandro Bortot leandro@gmail.com
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Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 8:54 PM
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] RMSD

 you can make a simple script which calculates all the pairwise  
RMSD

values with g_rms. By doing this you can make a RMSD matrix.


I think you can get the RMSD matrix from g_cluster in one go.



 The usefulness of this depends on what you are trying to see,  
which
wasn't clearly stated to us. I did it once because I wanted to know  
how

similar the 20 conformers from a NMR PDB actually were.



2013/1/24 FLOR MARTINI flormart...@yahoo.com.ar

The values are OK, you obtain a value of RMSD of 0.2510229 . The  
value -1

refers time, and it is because you do not have a trajectory. You are
comparing only two .pdb structures, so it is consistent that you  
obtain

only one value, as you do not have more than one frame to compare.
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  De: Shima Arasteh shima_arasteh2...@yahoo.com
Para: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org
Enviado: miércoles, 23 de enero de 2013 16:14
Asunto: Re: [gmx-users] RMSD

What I see in xvg file is as below:

# g_rms -s 1.pdb -f 2.pdb -o rmsd1.xvg
#
# g_rms is part of G R O M A C S:
#
# Gromacs Runs On Most of All Computer Systems
#
@title RMSD
@xaxis  label Time (ps)
@yaxis  label RMSD (nm)
@TYPE xy
@ subtitle Protein after lsq fit to Protein
   -1.0000.2510229


I though that -1 is the ref value and the other is the relative  
RMSD for
2.pdb. Is this -1 should be positive? What is this -1? Would you  
give me

any suggestions   please?


Sincerely,
Shima


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Subject: Re: [gmx-users] RMSD



On 1/23/13 12:48 PM, Shima Arasteh wrote:
I want to find the structure with the lowest RMSD, so I think it  
does

not make different to set any of pdb files as the ref structure.

I made an attempt and got the RMSD regarding the first pdb file. The
RMSD relative to -1 for the ref structure, is written in xvg file.  
Is my

approach logically correct?




The RMSD value should be positive, so I don't know how you get -1.   
Your
approach does not seem very sound - a structure does not have an  
absolute
RMSD value; it has an RMSD value relative to a reference structure,  
which

must be some sort of meaningful comparison or else you're not really
measuring anything useful.

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Hydrogen bonding differences

2013-01-25 Thread Erik Marklund
There were a handful of bugfixes to g_hbond over the last year. Could  
you try 4.6 or a smoking hot 4.5.5? I recognize this discrepancy form  
before.


Erik

On Jan 24, 2013, at 3:59 PM, Kavyashree M wrote:


Dear Sir,

This is 4.5.3. I have not tried nomerge. I did not use
nomerge option in any of them, So if it has counted
it (Hbond b/w same donor and acceptor but with
different hydrogen) twice in one calculation then it will
be counted twice in another, So wont the result with/without
nomerge be the same?

The difference is 4-5 Hbonds..

Thank you
Kavya

On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 7:30 PM, Erik Marklund  
er...@xray.bmc.uu.se wrote:



Hi. What version was this? Have you tried with -nomerge?

Erik


On Jan 21, 2013, at 10:55 AM, Kavyashree M wrote:

Dear users,


While calculating hydrogen bonds for a simulation, it
was found that the average number of intra protein
hbonds was not equal to sum of MM, MS and SS
hydrogen bonds. (MM - main chain - main chain,
MS - main chain - side chain and side chain - side
chain hydrogen bonds). There was a difference of 5
or so hbonds between intra-protein and MM+MS+SS
hbonds. why is this so?
I selected the options 7 7 for MM, 7 8 for MS and 8 8
for SS hydrogen bonds.

One clarification. nhbdist option gives 0, 1, 2, 3 and
total hydrogen bonds per hydrogen. Does this mean
that a single hydrogen involving in forming hbond with
2 different acceptors/donors at different points of time
in the trajectory.

Thanks
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Re: [gmx-users] Hydrogen bonding differences

2013-01-24 Thread Erik Marklund

Hi. What version was this? Have you tried with -nomerge?

Erik

On Jan 21, 2013, at 10:55 AM, Kavyashree M wrote:


Dear users,

While calculating hydrogen bonds for a simulation, it
was found that the average number of intra protein
hbonds was not equal to sum of MM, MS and SS
hydrogen bonds. (MM - main chain - main chain,
MS - main chain - side chain and side chain - side
chain hydrogen bonds). There was a difference of 5
or so hbonds between intra-protein and MM+MS+SS
hbonds. why is this so?
I selected the options 7 7 for MM, 7 8 for MS and 8 8
for SS hydrogen bonds.

One clarification. nhbdist option gives 0, 1, 2, 3 and
total hydrogen bonds per hydrogen. Does this mean
that a single hydrogen involving in forming hbond with
2 different acceptors/donors at different points of time
in the trajectory.

Thanks
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Re: [gmx-users] how can I make statics for Z-axis?

2013-01-24 Thread Erik Marklund

g_traj -nox -noy if I recall correctly.

On Jan 21, 2013, at 4:10 PM, Albert wrote:


hello:

 I would like to make statics for an atom along Z-axis. I am just  
wondering how can I to do this in Gromacs?


thank you very much
best
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Re: [gmx-users] mdp option for implicit solvent simulation

2013-01-11 Thread Erik Marklund

Hi,

If you're simulating in the gas-phase, how come you want implicit  
solvent?


Erik

On Jan 11, 2013, at 5:07 AM, Sanku M wrote:


Hi,
  I am trying to do implicit solvent simulation for a protein in gas- 
phase. I have a few questions :

1) should I use sd integrator?

2) should I also use no periodic condition considering continuum  
dielectric ?


3) in the JCTC 2010 paper by Lindahl and co-worker, it is mentioned  
that no cutoffs were used for implicit solvent simulations.
 But, again in implicit solvent setup the rgblist should be equal to  
rlist.
Now, if I use rlist=0 ( as all interactions are considered), should  
I also make rgblist=0?

Does it mean the setup was following type: i.e.

  ; NEIGHBORSEARCHING PARAMETERS
; nblist update frequency
nstlist  = 0
; ns algorithm (simple or grid)
ns-type  = simple
; Periodic boundary conditions: xyz, no, xy
pbc  = no
periodic_molecules   = no
; nblist cut-off
rlist= 0
; long-range cut-off for switched potentials
rlistlong= -1

; OPTIONS FOR ELECTROSTATICS AND VDW
; Method for doing electrostatics
coulombtype  = cut-off
rcoulomb-switch  = 0
rcoulomb = 0
; Relative dielectric constant for the medium and the reaction field
epsilon_r= 1
epsilon_rf   = 1
; Method for doing Van der Waals
; Method for doing Van der Waals
vdw-type = Cut-off
; cut-off lengths
rvdw-switch  = 0
rvdw = 0
; Apply long range dispersion corrections for Energy and Pressure
DispCorr = No


; IMPLICIT SOLVENT ALGORITHM
implicit_solvent = GBSA

; GENERALIZED BORN ELECTROSTATICS
; Algorithm for calculating Born radii
gb_algorithm = Still
; Frequency of calculating the Born radii inside rlist
nstgbradii   = 1
; Cutoff for Born radii calculation; the contribution from atoms
; between rlist and rgbradii is updated every nstlist steps
rgbradii = 0
; Dielectric coefficient of the implicit solvent
gb_epsilon_solvent   = 80
; Salt concentration in M for Generalized Born models
gb_saltconc  = 0.150
; Scaling factors used in the OBC GB model. Default values are OBC(II)
gb_obc_alpha = 1
gb_obc_beta  = 0.8
gb_obc_gamma = 4.85
gb_dielectric_offset = 0.009
sa_algorithm = Ace-approximation
sa_surface_tension   = -1



Some idea about the implicit solvent setup will be appreciated.
Sanku
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Re: [gmx-users] using g_analyze for calculating distance autocorrelation functions

2012-12-20 Thread Erik Marklund
It is common to subtract the average value of the data. Hence the ACF usually 
contain negative values.

20 dec 2012 kl. 14.30 skrev 申昊:

 
 Dear GROMACS users,
 
 I have been working on calculating distance autocorrelation functions by 
 using g_analyze.
 The codes i used was 
 g_analyze -f dist.xvg -ac autocorr.xvg -temp 300.
 'dist.xvg' is about the average distance against simulation time. The two 
 columns are both positive datas.
 However, the result show a mixture of positive and negative datas. In my 
 opinion, the autocorrelation function should be always positive. 
 
 Can anyone help me with that ?
 
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Re: [gmx-users] merge .gro, .top files

2012-12-18 Thread Erik Marklund

18 dec 2012 kl. 09.30 skrev Tsjerk Wassenaar:

 Hi KT,
 
 If you mean concatenating frames in .gro files, you can use trjcat or just
 cat. If you mean merging the coordinates, it's a wee bit more complicated.
 Since you also ask for top files, I guess that's the case. Here's a snippet
 of python code that will do the trick:
 
 #!/usr/bin/env python
 
 import sys
 
 f = [open(i).readlines() for i in sys.argv[1:]]
 print Merged gro file\n%5d % (sum([len(i) for i in f]) - 3*len(f))
 print .join([.join(i[2:-1]) for i in f]),
 print f[0][-1]
 
 
 For the top files, it is necessary to ensure all the moleculetypes are
 #included, and that the [ molecules ] listing under [ system ] has the
 right number and order of the molecules in the merged gro file. There's no
 tool for that that I know of.

In principle you could use grompp for checking that. It would print out a heap 
of warinngs/notes/errors if structure file and topology don't match.

Erik

 
 Cheers,
 
 Tsjerk
 
 
 On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 6:18 AM, Kieu Thu Nguyen kieuthu2...@gmail.comwrote:
 
 Dear All,
 
 I don't know which tools used to merge 2 files .gro, 2 files .top ?
 Can i use trjcat ?
 
 Thanks !
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Re: [gmx-users] Asymmetry in homo dimer simulation

2012-12-06 Thread Erik Marklund

5 dec 2012 kl. 17.26 skrev Justin Lemkul:

 
 
 On 12/5/12 11:21 AM, Kavyashree M wrote:
 Sir,
 
 Thank you for your suggestions. I decided the cutoff based on
 RMSD convergence. I will calculate at different time intervals.
 Running multiple simulation is definitely the best suggestion but
 due to time and machine constraint it would be difficult. Instead
 I have two mesophilic simulations. But Is there any other way
 by which I can prove this point?
 
 
 Not using single trajectories.  Your job is to convince reviewers that your 
 work is sound.  A single trajectory is not convincing, at least to any 
 reviewer that does his or her homework :)
 

I don't think that the use of single trajectories is necessarily wrong, as 
long as they are sufficiently long. It's usually the amount of sampling that is 
the crucial point, no?

Erik

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Re: [gmx-users] Observations about g_hbond -dist and -ang

2012-11-30 Thread Erik Marklund

30 nov 2012 kl. 12.24 skrev Cara Kreck:

 
 Hi everyone,
 
 Ithought I should share something that I've noticed about some of the outputs 
 of g_hbond, in case it's confused anyone else. I'd noticed that there is a 
 significant difference in the length distribution plots (-dist)  produced by 
 version 3.3.3 and all of the 4 family, including 4.5.5 (which I believe 
 included a bugfix for g_hbond). I then figured out that this difference is 
 really just a problem with the .xvg legends.
 
 In 3.3.3 the distribution values were calculated for Hydrogen - Acceptor 
 Distance (nm) and this description is still provided in the legend for 
 4.5.5, even though the values provided now are actually Donor - Acceptor 
 Distance (nm). If you use -noda in 4.5.5 it will give you an identical 
 distribution to 3.3.3. I then realised that both versions also have the angle 
 distribution plots (-ang) labelled wrongly with Donor - Hydrogen - Acceptor 
 Angle (\SO\N) instead of  Hydrogen - Donor - Acceptor Angle. 
 
 I'm not sure if these things would really be considered bugs, but I just 
 thought I'd let people know.

Thanks for pointing it out. I'd call it a bug, but a low priority one. Would 
you mind filing a redmine issue about it 
(http://redmine.gromacs.org/projects/gromacs/issues)? Then this will be much 
less likely to be overlooked or forgotten about.

Erik

 
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Re: [gmx-users] Hbonds between Adenine and Thymine

2012-11-29 Thread Erik Marklund
Hi,

A general note: make_ndx and index files are not magical in any way. You can 
usually construct an index group from e.g. a pdb file with awk. It's just lists 
of atom indices.

Best,

Erik

28 nov 2012 kl. 22.33 skrev Justin Lemkul:

 
 
 On 11/28/12 3:43 PM, Hovakim Grabski wrote:
 Dear Gromacs users,
 I set a  simulation of 26 base pairs  of  DNA with Ethidium Bromide for 5 ns.
 After a while Thymine rotated for about 70 degrees and then returned to its 
 initial position.
 I wanted to find out hbonds between Adenine and Thymine but with make_ndx 
 things don't work so well.
 How can I select Adenine from one strand and Thymine from the other strand 
 and then run g_hbond ?
 
 You can use make_ndx to select any residues you want.  You'll have to 
 describe exactly what you did that produced insufficient results.  Saying it 
 didn't work well doesn't tell us anything, because it is in fact quite easy 
 to produce usable index groups.
 
 -Justin
 
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Re: [gmx-users] how to repeat simulation correctly?

2012-11-22 Thread Erik Marklund
Stochastic and chaotic are not identical. Chaotic means that differences in the 
initial state will grow exponentially over time.

Erik

22 nov 2012 kl. 09.52 skrev Felipe Pineda, PhD:

 Won't this same stochastic nature of MD provide for different, independent 
 trajectories even if restarted from a previous, equilibrated frame even 
 without resetting velocities, i.e., as a continuation run using the 
 velocities recorded in the gro file of the selected snapshot?
 
 Felipe
 
 On 11/22/2012 12:55 AM, Mark Abraham wrote:
 Generating velocities from a new random seed is normally regarded as good
 enough. By the time you equilibrate, the chaotic nature of MD starts to
 work for you.
 
 Mark
 On Nov 21, 2012 1:04 PM, Felipe Pineda, PhD luis.pinedadecas...@lnu.se
 wrote:
 
 So how would you repeat the (let be it converged) simulation from
 different starting conditions in order to add that valuable statistics you
 mention?
 
 I think this was Albert's question
 
 Felipe
 
 On 11/21/2012 12:41 PM, Mark Abraham wrote:
 
 If a simulation ensemble doesn't converge reliably over a given time
 scale,
 then it's not converged over that time scale. Repeating it from different
 starting conditions still adds valuable statistics, but can't be a
 replicate. Independent replicated observations of the same phenomenon
 allow
 you to assess how likely it is that your set of observations reflect the
 underlying phenomenon. The problem in sampling-dependent MD is usually in
 making an observation (equating a converged simulation with an
 observation).
 
 Mark
 
 On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 8:12 AM, Albert mailmd2...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  hello:
I am quite confused on how to repeat our MD in Gromacs. If we started
 from the same equilibrated .gro file with gen_vel= no in
 md.mdp,
 we may get exactly the same results which cannot be treated as
 reasonable
 repeated running. However, if we use gen_vel=yes for each round of
 running, sometimes our simulation may not converged at our simulated time
 scale and we may get two results with large differences.
 
So I am just wondering how to perform repeated MD in Gromacs in a
 correct way so that our results can be acceptably repeated?
 
 thank you very much.
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Re: [gmx-users] how to repeat simulation correctly?

2012-11-22 Thread Erik Marklund
It will depend on the integration algorithms, parallelization, etc. The 
equations are deterministic, but numerical differences may arise e.g. from 
different ordering of floating point numbers being added together in different 
simulations. The chaotic nature of MD would then have the simulations diverge 
over time, but the question is how long it takes for such differences to really 
manifest.

Best,

Erik

22 nov 2012 kl. 10.13 skrev Felipe Pineda, PhD:

 Would non-deterministic be correct to characterize the nature of MD as 
 well? There is also deterministic chaos ... And what about the outcome of 
 starting several trajectories from the same equilibrated frame as 
 continuation runs, i.e., using its velocities? Could they be considered 
 independent and used to extract that valuable statistics mentioned in a 
 previous posting?
 
 Felipe
 
 On 11/22/2012 10:04 AM, Erik Marklund wrote:
 Stochastic and chaotic are not identical. Chaotic means that differences in 
 the initial state will grow exponentially over time.
 
 Erik
 
 22 nov 2012 kl. 09.52 skrev Felipe Pineda, PhD:
 
 Won't this same stochastic nature of MD provide for different, independent 
 trajectories even if restarted from a previous, equilibrated frame even 
 without resetting velocities, i.e., as a continuation run using the 
 velocities recorded in the gro file of the selected snapshot?
 
 Felipe
 
 On 11/22/2012 12:55 AM, Mark Abraham wrote:
 Generating velocities from a new random seed is normally regarded as good
 enough. By the time you equilibrate, the chaotic nature of MD starts to
 work for you.
 
 Mark
 On Nov 21, 2012 1:04 PM, Felipe Pineda, PhD luis.pinedadecas...@lnu.se
 wrote:
 
 So how would you repeat the (let be it converged) simulation from
 different starting conditions in order to add that valuable statistics you
 mention?
 
 I think this was Albert's question
 
 Felipe
 
 On 11/21/2012 12:41 PM, Mark Abraham wrote:
 
 If a simulation ensemble doesn't converge reliably over a given time
 scale,
 then it's not converged over that time scale. Repeating it from different
 starting conditions still adds valuable statistics, but can't be a
 replicate. Independent replicated observations of the same phenomenon
 allow
 you to assess how likely it is that your set of observations reflect the
 underlying phenomenon. The problem in sampling-dependent MD is usually in
 making an observation (equating a converged simulation with an
 observation).
 
 Mark
 
 On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 8:12 AM, Albert mailmd2...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  hello:
I am quite confused on how to repeat our MD in Gromacs. If we started
 from the same equilibrated .gro file with gen_vel= no in
 md.mdp,
 we may get exactly the same results which cannot be treated as
 reasonable
 repeated running. However, if we use gen_vel=yes for each round of
 running, sometimes our simulation may not converged at our simulated 
 time
 scale and we may get two results with large differences.
 
So I am just wondering how to perform repeated MD in Gromacs in a
 correct way so that our results can be acceptably repeated?
 
 thank you very much.
 Albert
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Re: [gmx-users] how to repeat simulation correctly?

2012-11-22 Thread Erik Marklund
MD is chaotic regardless of how differences, however small, are created in the 
first place. This was just one example.

Stochastic terms in e.g. the v-rescale thermostat will rely on the same 
sequence of random numbers in separate simulations if the random number 
generator is seeded in the same way. But sure, choosing different seeds would 
be one way of having diverging simulations.

I think your point is correct in principle, e.g. when pressure is concerned. 
That equilibration time must however also be put in relation to how long it 
takes for two simulations to become uncorrelated.

Best,

Erik
22 nov 2012 kl. 11.30 skrev Felipe Pineda, PhD:

 Not to forget about the additional stochastic term in the V-rescale 
 thermostat, when it's used. Since the equations are evidently deterministic, 
 is the chaotic nature of MD just a numerical effect?
 
 The practical point: if the velocities are reset upon a restart from an 
 equilibrated frame in order to generate multiple, independent trajectories 
 for statistical purposes, the equilibration will be probably lost and a new 
 equilibration phase will be needed. Is this correct?
 
 Best,
 
 Felipe
 
 On 11/22/2012 11:12 AM, Erik Marklund wrote:
 It will depend on the integration algorithms, parallelization, etc. The 
 equations are deterministic, but numerical differences may arise e.g. from 
 different ordering of floating point numbers being added together in 
 different simulations. The chaotic nature of MD would then have the 
 simulations diverge over time, but the question is how long it takes for 
 such differences to really manifest.
 
 Best,
 
 Erik
 
 22 nov 2012 kl. 10.13 skrev Felipe Pineda, PhD:
 
 Would non-deterministic be correct to characterize the nature of MD as 
 well? There is also deterministic chaos ... And what about the outcome of 
 starting several trajectories from the same equilibrated frame as 
 continuation runs, i.e., using its velocities? Could they be considered 
 independent and used to extract that valuable statistics mentioned in a 
 previous posting?
 
 Felipe
 
 On 11/22/2012 10:04 AM, Erik Marklund wrote:
 Stochastic and chaotic are not identical. Chaotic means that differences 
 in the initial state will grow exponentially over time.
 
 Erik
 
 22 nov 2012 kl. 09.52 skrev Felipe Pineda, PhD:
 
 Won't this same stochastic nature of MD provide for different, 
 independent trajectories even if restarted from a previous, equilibrated 
 frame even without resetting velocities, i.e., as a continuation run 
 using the velocities recorded in the gro file of the selected snapshot?
 
 Felipe
 
 On 11/22/2012 12:55 AM, Mark Abraham wrote:
 Generating velocities from a new random seed is normally regarded as good
 enough. By the time you equilibrate, the chaotic nature of MD starts to
 work for you.
 
 Mark
 On Nov 21, 2012 1:04 PM, Felipe Pineda, PhD 
 luis.pinedadecas...@lnu.se
 wrote:
 
 So how would you repeat the (let be it converged) simulation from
 different starting conditions in order to add that valuable statistics 
 you
 mention?
 
 I think this was Albert's question
 
 Felipe
 
 On 11/21/2012 12:41 PM, Mark Abraham wrote:
 
 If a simulation ensemble doesn't converge reliably over a given time
 scale,
 then it's not converged over that time scale. Repeating it from 
 different
 starting conditions still adds valuable statistics, but can't be a
 replicate. Independent replicated observations of the same phenomenon
 allow
 you to assess how likely it is that your set of observations reflect 
 the
 underlying phenomenon. The problem in sampling-dependent MD is usually 
 in
 making an observation (equating a converged simulation with an
 observation).
 
 Mark
 
 On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 8:12 AM, Albert mailmd2...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  hello:
I am quite confused on how to repeat our MD in Gromacs. If we 
 started
 from the same equilibrated .gro file with gen_vel= no in
 md.mdp,
 we may get exactly the same results which cannot be treated as
 reasonable
 repeated running. However, if we use gen_vel=yes for each round of
 running, sometimes our simulation may not converged at our simulated 
 time
 scale and we may get two results with large differences.
 
So I am just wondering how to perform repeated MD in Gromacs in a
 correct way so that our results can be acceptably repeated?
 
 thank you very much.
 Albert
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Re: [gmx-users] Save frames of trajectory file

2012-11-19 Thread Erik Marklund
trjconv

19 nov 2012 kl. 10.47 skrev Shima Arasteh:

 Dear gmx users,
 
 Is there any command in GROMACS, which I can use it to save frames of 
 trajectory file in pdb format?
 
 
 
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Re: [gmx-users] Force vs distance plot in pulling simulation?

2012-11-17 Thread Erik Marklund

16 nov 2012 kl. 22.42 skrev Justin Lemkul:

 
 
 On 11/16/12 10:45 AM, Gmx QA wrote:
 Hello gmx-users,
 
 I've performed a pulling simulation and obtained a force-vs-time plot and a
 distance-vs-time plot (xvg-files).
 Is it common to somehow combine these to get a force-vs-distance-plot using
 a hacked-together script, or how do people that have experience with
 pulling generally make such a plot? I have read a bunch of papers where
 such figures are presented, but there does not seem to be any built-in way
 in gromacs to make them. I could be wrong, of course.
 
 
 The only solution is to write a simple script that parses out the columns you 
 want.
 
 -Justin

I don't see the point though. Except for checking implementation of the pull 
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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Umbrella sampling question

2012-11-16 Thread Erik Marklund
Hi,

Blindly defining the center of mass for a group of atoms is not possible in a 
periodic system such as a typical simulation box. You need some clue as to 
which periodic copy of every atom that is to be chosen. By providing 
pull_pbcatom0 you tell gromacs to, for every atom in grp0, use the periodic 
copy closest to the atom given by pull_pbcatom0. If you have large pullgroups 
this is necessary to define the inter-group distance in a way that makes sense. 
If you get different results depending on that setting you really need to 
figure out which atom is a good center for your calculations. The default 
behavior is to use the atom whose *index* is in the center of the group. If you 
for example have a dimeric protein this may correspond to the C-terminus of the 
first chain or the N-terminus of the second one, which in turn often doesn't 
coincide with the geometrical center of the group. I suggest you try yet 
another choice of pull_pbcatom0 that is also close to the center to see if that 
also give rise to a different distance. As mentioned, the choice of 
pull_pbcatom0 should not matter as long as the choice allows to figure out how 
to handle the periodicity.

Best,

Erik

15 nov 2012 kl. 19.56 skrev Gmx QA:

 Hi Chris
 
 Seems my confusion was that I assumed that the distances in the
 profile.xvg-file should correspond to something I could measure with
 g_dist. Turns out it does not.
 Thank you for helping me sorting out this, I got it now :-)
 
 About pull_pbcatom0 though. My box is  2*1.08 nm in all directions:
 $ tail -n 1 conf0.gro
  12.45770  12.45770  17.99590
 
 I am still not sure what pull_pbcatom0 does. You said it should not have
 any effect on my results, but changing it does result in a different
 initial distance reported by grompp.
 
 In my initial attempts at this, I did not specify anything for
 pull_pbcatom0, but in the grompp output I get this
 
 Pull group  natoms  pbc atom  distance at start reference at t=0
   0 21939 10970
   1 1 0   2.083 2.083
 Estimate for the relative computational load of the PME mesh part: 0.10
 This run will generate roughly 761 Mb of data
 
 
 Then, following the advice in the thread I referred to earlier, I set
 pull_pbcatom0 explicitly in the mdp-file to be an atom close to the COM of
 the Protein. Then I get from grompp
 
 Pull group  natoms  pbc atom  distance at start reference at t=0
   0 21939  7058
   1 1 0   1.808 1.808
 Estimate for the relative computational load of the PME mesh part: 0.10
 This run will generate roughly 761 Mb of data
 
 As you can see, the initial distance is different (2.083 vs 1.808), and
 1.808 is the same as the distance reported by g_dist. Do you have any
 comments here as to why this is?
 
 Thanks
 /PK
 
 
 What you reported is not what you did. It appears that grompp, gtraj, and
 g_dist report the same value.
 Please also report the value that you get from your pullx.xvg file that you
 get from mdrun, which I suspect
 will also be the same.
 
 The difference that you report is actually between the first FRAME of your
 trajectory from g_dist
 and the first LINE of the file from the g_wham output. I see no reason to
 assume that the values in the
 output of g_wham must be time-ordered. Also, I have never used g_wham
 myself (I use an external program
 to do wham) and so I can not say if you are using it correctly.
 
 My overall conclusion is that you need to investigate g_wham output not
 worry about a new run at this stage.
 
 Regarding pull_pbcatom0, there is lots of information on the mailing list
 about this. It is a global atom number
 that defines the unit cell for selection of which periodic image of each
 molecule will be used for the pulling.
 If all of your box dimensions are  2*1.08 nm, then pull_pbcatom0 will not
 affect your results.
 
 Chris.
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Re: [gmx-users] Dihedral form

2012-11-15 Thread Erik Marklund
You could shift the reference angle by pi, which changes the sign of the cosine.

Best,

Erik

15 nov 2012 kl. 14.25 skrev Laura Leay:

 All,
 
 I would like to parameterise the Dreiding force field for use with Gromacs. 
 One thing I am not sure about is how to parameterise the dihedrals
 
 The Dreiding paper has the form;
 
 E= 0.5k { 1 - cos[ n( phi - phi_o)]}
 
 However I cannot find this form in the Gromacs manual. The closest I can find 
 in the Gromacs manual is:
 
 E = k [ 1 + cos(n*phi - phi_s) ]
 
 
 Does anyone know of a way to use the Dreiding form in Gromacs, or to convert 
 to a form that is more suitable for use with Gromacs?
 
 Many thanks,
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Re: [gmx-users] Dihedral form

2012-11-15 Thread Erik Marklund
Hi,

15 nov 2012 kl. 15.41 skrev Laura Leay:

 Thanks Eric,
 
 Just to clarify (I hope this notation is in fact clear):
 
 E=0.5k [ 1 - cos( n*phi - n*phi_o +180 ) ]  = 0.5k [ 1 + cos(n*phi - n*phi_o)]
^ this whole equation is Dreiding ^this whole equation is 
 Dreiding converted to the form in Gromacs
 
 This would mean that:
   0.5k in Dreiding = k in Gromacs
   n in Dreiding = n in Gromacs
   n*phi_o +180 in Dreiding (original form) is phi_s in the Gromacs notation 
 from the original post
 

I think that's correct.

 
 I hope this makes sense!
 
 Laura
 
 
 
 From: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org] on behalf 
 of Erik Marklund [er...@xray.bmc.uu.se]
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 Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Dihedral form
 
 You could shift the reference angle by pi, which changes the sign of the 
 cosine.
 
 Best,
 
 Erik
 
 15 nov 2012 kl. 14.25 skrev Laura Leay:
 
 All,
 
 I would like to parameterise the Dreiding force field for use with Gromacs. 
 One thing I am not sure about is how to parameterise the dihedrals
 
 The Dreiding paper has the form;
 
 E= 0.5k { 1 - cos[ n( phi - phi_o)]}
 
 However I cannot find this form in the Gromacs manual. The closest I can 
 find in the Gromacs manual is:
 
 E = k [ 1 + cos(n*phi - phi_s) ]
 
 
 Does anyone know of a way to use the Dreiding form in Gromacs, or to convert 
 to a form that is more suitable for use with Gromacs?
 
 Many thanks,
 Laura
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Re: [gmx-users] amino acid color

2012-11-14 Thread Erik Marklund
Hi,

If you put the hydrophobicity in the b-factor column of a pdb file then pymol 
can use it for coloring.

Best,

Erik

14 nov 2012 kl. 14.14 skrev tarak karmakar:

 Dear All,
 
 In the active site cavity there are hydrophobic and hydrophilic amino
 acid residues. Now I want to provide color according to the
 hydrophobicity of the amino acids present thereby, suppose the color
 will start from BLUE (for the most hydrophobic) to RED ( most
 hydrophilic). Could anyone suggest me any software to make this type
 of picture ?
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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Umbrella sampling question

2012-11-14 Thread Erik Marklund
 pull the pg1-molecule straight up in z,
 and that is indeed also what is happening in the simulation.
 
 I ran this simulation for 6 ns, and it resulted in about 40 separate
 conformations to use for umbrella sampling. All of those simulations also
 seem to work, I can use the resulting pullf,xvg-files as input to g_wham,
 and get a histogram-plot with reasonable overlaps.
 
 However, I'm trying to understand how the various distances relate to each
 other. For example, in the profile.xvg-file I get a z-distance for the
 first frame as 1.761971 nm, while checking with g_dist gives me 1.80833
 (for z). Continuing a few frames further, there are still differences, and
 they appear to be random.
 
 How are the distances in the profile.xvg-file computed? The average of the
 dZ column of the pullx-file for the first frame is 1.75787, which is sort
 of close to 1.761971, but not quite (and also for the next frames there is
 no closeness).
 
 Sorry if this became a long mail, but I need to understand this in order to
 be able to progress with my research.
 
 Thanks
 
 
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 Message: 5
 Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 16:54:47 -0500
 From: Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
 Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Re: Diatomic in MeCN NPT (NH and PR)
simulation  segfaults after 1 us
 To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org
 Message-ID: 50a2c1a7.7050...@vt.edu
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
 
 
 
 On 11/13/12 2:56 PM, benjfitz wrote:
 Are there any other tests I should run to diagnose the problem?
 
 
 I doubt there's anything that can be done that will be particularly
 useful.  You
 could compile in debugging mode and try to do a backtrace when the problem
 occurs, but if you have a means to run stable simulations (500-ns
 intervals), I
 don't know whether that's worth it to you or not.  I doubt any of the
 developers
 are going to want to run microsecond simulations to try to track it down.
 
 -Justin
 
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 Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 23:27:28 -0800 (PST)
 From: Raj princecrusia...@gmail.com
 Subject: [gmx-users] Re: hydrophobic contacts
 To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
 Message-ID: 1352878048599-5002931.p...@n6.nabble.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 
 Hi all,
 
 can some one tel me how can i prepare a index file specifying the
 hydrophobic atoms along for measuring the hydrophobic contacts in the
 systems alone.
 
 
 
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Re: [gmx-users] calculating lennard-jones interaction

2012-11-13 Thread Erik Marklund
Hi,

Could you rephrase the question? Distance larger than cut-off and cut-off is 
less than distance seem equal by definition to me.

Best,

Erik
 
13 nov 2012 kl. 10.50 skrev Zahra M:

 hi dear users
  wanna know if the distance between two species is more than the cut off 
 radius of vdw interaction (in a SMD simulation), can we trust the simulation 
 results? I mean what is the difference between this case and the situation 
 that the cut off radius is lower than the distance between two species.
 bests.
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Re: [gmx-users] calculating lennard-jones interaction

2012-11-13 Thread Erik Marklund
Hi,

There is a net attractive force from vdw interactions beyond the cut-off, which 
can be corrected for analytically *in the case of a homogeneous system*. There 
is a slight artifact arising from the use of cut-offs for non-homogeneous 
systems such as a protein in water. Often the same corrections are used for 
non-homogeneous systems. It all boils down to what you want to measure, if 
those artifacts are large enough to ruin your investigations.


13 nov 2012 kl. 17.46 skrev Zahra M:

 thank you for your reply
 I mean the distance between two proteins is more than the cut off value,
 and in the other case the distance between two proteins is less than the cut 
 off value,
 
 Bests
 -Zahra
 
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 Hi,
 
 Could you rephrase the question? Distance larger than cut-off and cut-off is 
 less than distance seem equal by definition to me.
 
 Best,
 
 Erik
  
 13 nov 2012 kl. 10.50 skrev Zahra M:
 
 hi dear users
  wanna know if the distance between two species is more than the cut off 
 radius of vdw interaction (in a SMD simulation), can we trust the simulation 
 results? I mean what is the difference between this case and the situation 
 that the cut off radius is lower than the distance between two species.
 bests.
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Re: [gmx-users] do_dssp Segmentation fault

2012-11-12 Thread Erik Marklund
Hi,

The explanation is that DSSP changed its syntax some time ago and do_dssp no 
longer complied. More recent versions of do_dssp follows the new syntax  while 
still supporting the old one.

Erik

12 nov 2012 kl. 10.55 skrev João Henriques:

 Hello,
 
 do_dssp (4.5.5) is broken. There are two possible answers you're gonna get
 here:
 
 1) Use old dssp, which you are using.
 2) You're an idiot, which are not.
 
 What I did to solve the problem was, download gmx from git, and substitute
 the /src/tools/do_dssp.c of gmx 4.5.5 with the one from the git version.
 Re-compile it and voila! This do_dssp version accepts both old and new dssp
 and you have to specify which version with the flag -ver if I remember
 correctly.
 
 This worked perfectly for me. I hope it helps you as well.
 
 All the best,
 João Henriques
 
 On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 8:38 AM, mshappy1986 mshappy1...@126.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
   I am meeting the following error in Gromacs 4.5.5 with do_dssp
   Here is the command
   do_dssp -f md.xtc -s md.tpr -o dssp.xpm
  give me the following error
   segmentation fault
  I have downloaded the executable DSSP form
 http://swift.cmbi.ru.nl/gv/dssp/ and set the environment variable, but
 do_dssp did not work.
  How can I fix it?
  Thanks a lot
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [gmx-users] problem with simulation of freezing of water

2012-11-11 Thread Erik Marklund
The phase transition of water from liquid to ice is very hard to observe in MD 
simulations. In the lab you can in fact supercool water for minutes without ice 
forming until you trigger the phase transition by e.g. knocking the beaker or 
add nucleating agents. An MD simulation takes place on timescales that are 
many orders of magnitude shorter, so obtaining ice in simulations when 
starting form a liquid system seem as likely as winning a billion dollars and 
getting struck by lightning at the same time.

There are water models that nucleate much more easy than in experiments, which 
may be useful for you.

Best,

Erik


11 nov 2012 kl. 15.53 skrev Ali Alizadeh:

 Dear All users
 
 I  did simulation of water freezind at low temperature(260 k) so that
 i was hoped to see
 regular structure of ice,
 
 I used OPLS-AA force field, SPC and 100ns,
 
 But i can not see the regular structure of ice(i used vmd for
 representation of my simulation)?
 
 In your opinion, Where did i mistake in my simulation?
 
 Where did i mistake in my simulation?
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Re: [gmx-users] Running Gromacs in Clusters

2012-11-09 Thread Erik Marklund
Hi,

I see degrading scaling when going from 96 to 192 cores on a cray for my 
system. I have periodic molecules and do umbrella sampling (with small 
deviations from the reference) which might affect the performance. My code is 
based on 4.5.5 without performance-critical modifications.

Erik

9 nov 2012 kl. 03.06 skrev Szilárd Páll:

 Hi,
 
 With a fast network like Cray's you can easily get to 400-500 atoms/core
 core with 4.5 (that's 400+ cores for your system), perhaps even further.
 With 4.6 this improves quite a bit (up to 2-3x).
 
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 On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Erik Marklund er...@xray.bmc.uu.se wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Sure you can go beyond 24 cores. I'm currently simulating ~170 000 atoms
 on 192 cores at ~45 ns a day. with half the number of processors I get ~27
 ns a day. It will of course depend on the hardware, particular algorithms,
 run parameters, and on the system details.
 
 Erik
 
 7 nov 2012 kl. 16.51 skrev Marcelo Depolo:
 
 Good afternoon,
 
 
 I wonder if anyone has experience running Gromacs in MPI. I'm
 paralleling the
 processes and want to know how many processors reduces the computation
 time to
 the minimum. I am currently using 24 processors for a system of 170 000
 atoms and obtaining a simulation of 50ns in 15 days. There's a way to
 reduce more this computational time?
 
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