Re: Nahhh, we don't need to secure the *internal* network....
On 2 Aug 2002, Kenneth E. Lussier wrote: From the outside in: router - firewall - FreeS/WAN gateway - encrypted traffic to LAN. Each machine on the LAN had it's own keypair that was registered with the gateway, so when a desktop was fired up, it would authenticate itself to the gateway, and it was then free to communicate with anyone. Anyone that was able to sniff the traffic just got encrypted streams. If you could get a system onto the network, it would be useless unless the gateway was compromised to accept a bogus key. Very cool idea... I like it alot. Did you actually implement it? Any idea what the overhead was like? I imagine that your FreeS/WAN gateway would need some decent horsepower - otherwise you'd have scaling issues as your user base grows, right? For smaller networks, or maybe large networks segmented into smaller ones, this could be a nice setup. I guess one question is - the FreeS/WAN gateway solution still gives someone a connection in, correct? They can get on the network the same way (put a box in physically, have it phone home, connect) they just can't talk to anyone else. This solves the one problem, however, it doesn't solve the problem where you have a client that can't run something that talks to your FreeS/WAN gateway. Printservers, specialized boxes, etc.. Or do I misunderstand how you'd use it? -- If you must play, decide on three things at the start: the rules of the game, the stakes, and the quitting time. * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: dd on Windows
On 1 Aug 2002, Kenneth E. Lussier wrote: from one drive to the other. I was thinking about taking the hard drives, plugging them into IDE adapters, connecting them to a regular PC, booting off of a Linux floppy, and dd-ing on drive onto the other. Has anyone had any luck doing this with 1) Windows and 2) drives with differeing geometries (which I don't think dd cares about)? I've recently been doing this with norton Ghost (as it's incredibly fast, believe it or not - it'll also do ext2 filesystems.. anyone tried that, by the way?) I recall doing this awhile back, with the only gotcha of don't try to clone the partition, clone the drive. IIRC, when I tried to clone the partition, I had to initialize the MBR seperately... But it's been awhile, so don't quote me there. ben -- The only thing worse than failure is the fear of trying something new * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Looking for a decent calendar application
On Mon, 29 Jul 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking for a decent calendar application. However, I'm rather picky, as one of the requirements for said application is that it support command line capability to add events to the calendar. I've used webcal for awhile now... it's really quite nice. The newer versions support sql back ends, but the one I'm using only has the option of using the flat file (haven't upgraded yet). It works perfectly fine for my purposes, and, since it's just a normal flat file, making a command line tool should be cake. The file format's very simple. WebCal: http://bulldog.tzo.org/webcal/webcal.html All I want is a calendar which will allow me to add events, set the re-occuring meta-data, etc., and warn me of impending doom^H^H^H^H meetings. And I have to at least be able to *add* these events from the command line. It does all of this, including email you about upcoming events. I've never tried to integrate it with outlook/exchange, so I can't comment on that... Ben -- Great souls have wills; feeble ones have only wishes. * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: automated installation
We've used System Imager here with fairly good success. It's a bit like Solaris's jumpstart, so your machines need to have the ability to boot off the network, but it's pretty straightforward other than that. I've been toying around with partition image as well, which looks a little better to me, but I haven't gotten deep into it yet, so I can't vouch for its functionality. http://systemimager.sourceforge.net/ http://www.partimage.org/ Ben On Tue, 23 Jul 2002, Michael O'Donnell wrote: I'm looking for an automated software installation mechanism - I want to be able to deliver software to my customers in such a way that they can install it on multiple machines as painlessly as possible. For example, one scheme I've heard of (but have been unable to find at scyld.com or anywhere else) was reportedly developed by the Scyld Beowolf folks and it sounded very interesting - you could supposedly insert a Scyld CD into each one of a bunch of machines on your net, boot each machine from its CD, designate one machine as Master, and they'd all then cooperatively initialize themselves, install the software onto their local disks and start cranking as a Beowolf cluster. Although I'm not working with Beowolf I am involved with clustered systems so such a scheme sounds like it might be of interest - can anybody supply any details, or recommend any other approach to automated, net-based, multi-system installation? * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. * -- Better to do a good deed near at home than go far away to burn incense. * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
MS Makes Donation to Peru
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/020715/microsoft_peru_1.html Monday July 15, 7:54 pm Eastern Time Associated Press Microsoft Makes Donation to Peru Microsoft Makes $550,000 Contribution to Peru in Money, Software and Consulting Services REDMOND, Wash. (AP) -- Microsoft Corp. is providing about $550,000 in money, software and consulting services to the Peruvian government for educational and e-government initiatives. -- Of all the thirty-six alternatives, running away is best. * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
OT: CSEA Gets approved by 385-3 vote
The Headline: The House of Representatives voted overwhelmingly Monday to create a new punishment of life imprisonment for malicious computer hackers. By a 385-3 vote, the House approved a computer crime bill that also expands police ability to conduct Internet or telephone eavesdropping without first obtaining a court order. The Article: http://www.msnbc.com/news/780923.asp?cp1=1 The Bill: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c107:H.R.3482: -- Those who have free seats at a play hiss first. * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Linux at Wal-Mart
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product_listing.gsp?cat=102252path=0%3A3944%3A3951%3A102252dept=3944 PCs with Mandrake Linux Mandrake Linux is a powerful operating system that includes many graphical administration assistants wizards that make it intuitive and fun to use while providing all the power robustness of the Linux operating system. Mandrake 8.2 can be used either as a full-featured powerful Linux server, or as a highly productive personal workstation. Not available in stores. -- A Native American grandfather was talking to his grandson about how he felt about a tragedy. The grandfather said, I feel as if I have two wolves fighting in my heart. One wolf is the vengeful, angry violent one. The other wolf is the loving, compassionate one. The grandson asked him, Which wolf will win the fight in your heart? The grandfather answered, The one I feed. * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Meeting tonight, Sun cables, Charter
On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Jeffry Smith wrote: Third, Charter Communications (our cable provider here) has just started offering cable modem / high speed internet. Anyone have any experience with them, especially in terms of Linux friendliness? I've very tempted to change over (better than my 25K line ;), but want to see what new problems I'll run into. The guy who set up their network is very very good. I know for sure a few people are running Solaris on their network, so I imagine linux should be okay - but it's always the same... if you want support, you know what to do:) They've also (so far) had a very good reputation with the guys I work with that have their cablemodem service for uptime and speed. Ben -- Make happy those who are near, and those who are far will come. * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Linux on IBM Laptops / Survey Questions
On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Greg Kettmann wrote: We'd like to take the results and show them to IBM corporate and see if we can convince them to reconsider. We assume (dangerous word) that Linux is used far more on Thinkpads than our current shipping numbers (very, very low) would imply, but we're trying to document that. And yes, we do have the ear(s) of some very influential management types. Have you considered: http://petitiononline.com ? Might be a good spot to do this.. Ben -- To see what is right, and not do it, is want of courage, or of principle. ~ Confucius * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Security Auditig companies?
Counterpane provides this service. They're about the best in my opinion, but I believe SANS does it too? I'd have to look that one up. If you want the best, Counterpane... If cost is a big factor, you can usually find people around who do this type of thing as a consultant. I -believe- Belsarius (sp?) used to do this and was based out of this area, but it's been awhile since I've checked on them. Ben On Tue, 9 Jul 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Does anyone have any experience working with companies who do penetration testing, code review, and general security audits for products? At my current place of employment we have a product which we would like to have reviewed and tested by an outside party. However, the only company mentioned was ISS, who, if you remember were the folks responsible for the Apache fiasco a month or so back. If anyone has any recommendations, please let me know. Thanks -- Like playing a harp before a cow... * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Security Auditig companies?
On 9 Jul 2002, Kenneth E. Lussier wrote: I don't think that Counterpane does this sort of work. They specialize in managed security. SANS, I know, does not do this. SANS is an educational and reaserch organization. They may be able to point you in the right direction. Counterpane definitely used to - I personally used them once. I thought I remembered Bruce Schneier mentioning it at Black Hat, too. I thought SANS did, too... but yeah, could be wrong there. And that other one was Belanos I had completely forgotten about @stake... I've heard good things there. -- Vicious as a tigeress can be, she never eats her own cubs. * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Security Auditig companies?
On Tue, 9 Jul 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And that other one was Belanos I had completely forgotten about @stake... I've heard good things there. Err, got a URL on Belanos? The obvious doesn't seem to work :) Looks like they've fallen off the map. Start up casualty, I guess. Bad lead, my apologies. Ben -- A sly rabbit will have three openings to its den. * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Dinner
On Tue, 2002-07-09 at 15:33, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought it was pretty good, for a buffet restaurant, so I'm all for it. On the other hand, if someone else who knows the area has a suggestion, I'm open to that, too. While it's a little out of the way, the place I'm heading to is called La Carreta (I believe that's the spelling) down off of exit 3 (if you're coming from the north). It's the best Mexican food around that we've yet found. If anyone's interested, it's off of the DW highway, right between Wendy's and Citizen's Bank. Just north of exit 2... It's pretty reasonable and, as I said, the food is definitely like what you'd get in the Southwest (I can speak for New Mexico and Colorado :)) Ben * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Open SSH for Red Hat 6.2
On Sun, 7 Jul 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ben Imagine you not having root on a production system you're Ben supposed to be responsible for. Again, wouldn't happen. If I'm responsible for it, I own it. If I don't own it, I'm not responsible for it. End of story. I may happen to help or guide the person who is responsible for the system, but ultimately, I won't be held responsible for it. Exactly the point I was trying to make. Now, relate this to an IT person who's linux deficient and you have your scenario where you end up being forced to run windows. Either the IT person owns it or they're not responsible for it. This exact thing has happened to me. Eventually, I convinced the people that I needed a linux box (and got one of the older rotated out boxes for it - and then finally my normal desktop box), but it took time - and now that company, well, department has respect for linux. A far bigger win then if I had said 'Fine, I quit. I'm going to find someplace that will let me run linux.' and looked like a loose cannon. Better that they think I'm a drone then associate linux with such behavior. Ben -- One cannot refuse to eat just because there is a chance of being choked. * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Open SSH for Red Hat 6.2
On Sat, 6 Jul 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Btw, while I'm inefficiently doing the job using tools I'm not overly familiar with 'because you said so', I'll also be looking elsewhere for employment with a company who values efficiency of dictatorial and mindless rules without a decent understanding of what they're really in business for. While I agree with you - linux is something I feel I need to get the job done - I disagree with the flip attitude to the 'because you said so'. IT departments in certain companies (ones I've worked for) simply have no tolerance for things they can't control, and really, I don't blame them. Imagine you not having root on a production system you're supposed to be responsible for. No matter how many times you tell your boss 'Look, I don't have root on it' you're still going to be responsible for it. And even then, imagine you saying 'I don't have root on it'.. what's going to happen? They're going to give you root. In the IT world, that's install SMS Windows and get the box into a standard, supportable setup. It simply doesn't always work. As much as we'd like to be able to say 'I'm going to seek employment elsewhere', the truth of the matter is that work isn't as easy to find as it once was... like it or not, sometimes you have to run windows while you're using the velvet hammer to get them to accept the fact that you could do more running linux. It took me about 2 years, but I finally got my linux box, and when I did, they lost their objection to it. IMO, with persistence and real world examples, you'll eventually get to run linux. Until then, set up a box somewhere (clandestinely if needs be) and get yourself Xwin32 or eXceed or something. It's not perfect, but it'll do for a short time (did for me for 2 years). Ben -- We know next to nothing about virtually everything. It is not necessary to know the origin of the universe; it is necessary to want to know. Civilization depends not on any particular knowledge, but on the disposition to crave knowledge. -- George Will * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Multi-NIC routing...
We're -kind of- doing this here with PBR GRE Tunnels - It's working well for us. I imagine you could do the same thing here, couldn't you? This is the iproute2 package... Let me know if you need any config examples... Ben On Fri, 5 Jul 2002, Ken Ambrose wrote: Howdy, all. I'm moderately knowledgeable in routing, but I'm banging my head against the wall in this case: I've got a RH 7.2 box that has two NICs in it; one goes to our T-1 subnet, and the other to a cable modem -- we've got it set up to act as a backup mail gateway if/when the T1 takes a hit. Works like a charm. HOWEVER, I can't seem to figure out how to get both interfaces to be visible at the same time from non-local hosts, thusly: /\/\ |Internet||Internet| \/\/ | | 1.2.3.1 (router) 2.3.4.1 (Linksys behind cable modem) | | 1.2.3.2 (eth0)2.3.4.2 (eth1) \ / \ / \ / - | mailhost | - Now I understand that having more than one default gateway is... weird, and, usually, means that you're running a routing protocol such as IGRP or somesuch. But what if you're not? Is there any way to say something like if traffic originates on eth0, reply to it from eth0; if it comes from eth1, then use eth1, and go from there? Any hints/suggestions/etc., would be much appreciated. Thanks! -Ken * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. * -- We know next to nothing about virtually everything. It is not necessary to know the origin of the universe; it is necessary to want to know. Civilization depends not on any particular knowledge, but on the disposition to crave knowledge. -- George Will * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Debian flamewar reborn (was: Open SSH for Red Hat 6.2)
On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, Rich Payne wrote: OK then, show me how to point up2date at a different repository? Or better yet how to setup my own up2date server. Yes, I'm a Debian user, I'm also a RedHat user, both have their advatages and disadvantages and one of the advantages of Debian is that the packaging system is a little bit ahead of RedHat (nothing that can't be fixed with apt-rpm so I hear). While I'm not really particular to one distribution or another Just to answer your requests: To point up2date at a different repository, either use up2date --configure or edit /etc/sysconfig/rhn/up2date. In there, you'll see the fields 'NoSSLServerURL' and 'serverURL', point them at whatever repository you want to.. And, to run your own up2date server, the Current project is quite nice: http://www.biology.duke.edu/computer/unix/current/ Also, up2date will install packages that aren't already installed... I think it's something like up2date packagename - the real benefit here is that you don't have to go hunting down dependency packages... up2date does it for you. Ben -- To be wronged is nothing unless you continue to remember it. ~ Confucius * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: iptables MIRROR target
On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, Derek D. Martin wrote: Bad, bad idea. This turns an attack back on the attacker, who may or may not really be the source of the attack. This sort of retaliatory measure is illegal in many states and on a fedral level, and you may find yourself in court for doing it. I would seriously argue the legality of this. We all know you can find yourself in court for anything - even sending this message. Being taken to court doesn't make something illegal and I think the prosecutor would be hard pressed to prove that there was any kind of criminal intent. It would be trivial to turn this around to say 'the real attacker is the one who did this to me! I use this mirroring for my own system administration!' While this could be -considered- a bad idea, the MIRROR target also has many interesting uses, the least of which are to direct packets back at an attacker. There's a lot of things you could do to protect yourself against spoofed packets and the dangers of them with regards to MIRROR. Ben -- It is easier to fight for principles than to live up to them. * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: iptables MIRROR target
On 30 Jun 2002, Paul Iadonisi wrote: Harumph. I kinda knew that, but in a way, I was hoping there was a way, from the attacker's perspective, of making it really look it was coming from himself. Because, really, it is. Eh, if you're really going to use this in a retaliatory fashion, there are better weapons. Derek's right in that it shouldn't be used as such, regardless of the legality. clean of these scourges. Having rogue packets bounced back to you is one more method of waking these people up. Just because someone doesn't know about a problem doesn't mean we have to impact everyone else that's on the same router/switch as that guy. We should be taking the higher ground here. We know what's right and what's wrong. To take your analogy to a more accurate, real world depiction: Imagine someone throwing a brick through your window. The brick has a note tied to it that says 'From Your neighbor at #126 Fifth St.'. Do you go and call the police on your neighbor? Do you pick it up and throw it back through his window? Without the analogy: Joe Dohn decides he wants to be a hacker after getting his news SANS certification and the 'Red Button Disk'. He sets it up to send a random DoS with a spoofed source out to some network somewhere. You get the packet, aren't affected (of course) and send it back with your MIRROR rule. You end up DoSing the SPOOFED source's network - some random person who had nothing to do with it other than random selection of an IP address. Spoofing a source is incredibly trivial... so trivial that it should be relied upon that an attacker's (specifically a DoS's) Source IP is spoofed. Ben -- A Jade stone is useless before it is processed; a man is good-for-nothing until he is educated. * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Need some help getting started with SpamAssassin.
On Sat, 29 Jun 2002, Steven W. Orr wrote: Then I run into problems. I sent myself a test message whose body is sample-spam.txt and it gets delivered to me with no indication that sa thought anything bad happened. Am I missing something here? I just set up spamassassin the other day. I'm running qmail - and not running razor, so we're a little different, but it should be close enough. I'm running mine on a user by user basis (with only a couple of users, this is easiest for me) - I run spamassassin through procmail. This is incredibly easy... Here's how I installed: perl -MCPAN -e shell cpan install Mail::SpamAssassin (answer yes to all of the dependencies) once it's complete successfully: cpan quit Now, if you're running procmail already, great, just add something like: :0fw | /usr/bin/spamassassin -P -c /usr/share/spamassassin :0: * ^X-Spam-Status: Yes junkmail To your recipe. If you're not running procmail, you'll need to just make sendmail process procmail for you - I think you put |procmail in your .forward, but I really can't recall. Just check the docs or maybe someone else will see errors in my email and reply :). Then, create a .procmailrc for it to read and mkdir .procmail - I use a pretty minimal setup in .procmailrc: MAILDIR=mail PMDIR=$HOME/.procmail :0fw | /usr/bin/spamassassin -P -c /usr/share/spamassassin :0: * ^X-Spam-Status: Yes junkmail And that's about all you have to do, I believe. You can check your headers for things like this: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.31 X-Spam-Level: If your X-Spam-Status says Yes, you get a larger spam report in the body of the email. Good luck, Ben -- In learning how to think with nature is the salvation of our sanity and Earth. Stressfully separated from nature's sensous rewards, we psychologically bond to destructive gratifications. Genuinely reconnecting our thinking with nature replaces destructive bonds with constructive passions. - Dr. Michael J. Cohen * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: OT - Where would you buy stuff?
On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which can also be done effectively by phone, especially if you use their toll free ordering line to complain. This I disagree with. Your call costs them next to nothing. They can put you on hold endlessly, leave you in voicemail limbo, transfer you around in circles, or just plain disconnect you. I've been there many, many times. Being able to physically go somewhere, see a manager, and tie him or her up with your problem until it is solved is worlds better than a phone call. So then web vendors need to start recognizing this. How do they compete there? The reason they can offer the 'deals' is because they don't have that overhead... so, maybe they team up with some national company in their main distribution center's area (that doesn't compete with their products) and makes an agreement to use their office personnel for returns and pays the other company per use. That would certainly make me go to an online vendor over a local one.. sure they'd have to increase the price a bit, but not as much as they would if they tried to do it on their own.. Or maybe a few of the big online vendors (amazon, buy.com?) could get together and pop up a few places in the major metro areas specifically for returns or 'in store pickup'... no retail displays still and all the costs that go with them, but slightly more overhead.. -- Intelligence complicates. Wisdom simplifies. -- Mason Cooley * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: drive mirroring
On Mon, 10 Jun 2002, Peter Beardsley wrote: the target drive, huh? I realize if I do it this way it's a total hack but if I shut down some services, would I be able to say with confidence that the mirror would boot or would the result be too iffy? This is on a production machine and I don't have the time/resources to do the proper thing, ie install a RAID controller. I've done this before with the only side effects being a fsck on booting the new drive. Worst case scenario, you have the old drive as your back-out plan.. just keep it warm and spinning while you test the new drive to avoid any flex from heat changes... just to be sure. -- Sow much, reap much; sow little, reap little. * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: sendmail and alternate ports
On Thu, 2002-06-06 at 07:07, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: As an alternative solution, I can shut down my laptop's sendmail and tunnel port 25 from my external mail server through ssh. Unfortunately, mutt uses /sbin/sendmail to post outbound messages, so they end up in the queue of my local (non-running) sendmail daemon anyway. (/sbin/sendmail tries to send immediately [which fails], and then queues it up for retrying.) You could do the SSH tunnel and run sendmail in the non-listen mode. That, I think, would do it for you. I think the param would be something like: -q15 where 15 is the time in minutes you want the queue purged. I can't recall the switch to not make it listen though. * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Change 'date' from a normal user a/c
On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, Ganesan M wrote: How do I change the date from a normal user account under RH linux? For example, in SCO you have asroot command to perform any super user command from a normal user account. Is there anything in similar to asroot under linux? You probably want sudo for running root commands as a normal user. It's pretty configurable so you can lock access down tight if need be. man sudo Should have everything you need, if you have problems with it, just drop another email! Ben -- Regular feet can't be affected by irregular shoes. * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: http://www.whizwireless.com/
On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Benjamin Scott wrote: Hah! Where we are (Salisbury, MA), the best price we could get for a dedicated data T1 and Internet feed was more than $1500/month, and twice that for the install. My condolences. For those interested, a guy here at work is getting a t1 installed for under $800 and $250/mo + bandwidth (billed fractionally) Ben -- The quality of decision is like the well-timed swoop of a falcon which enables it to strike and destroy its victim. ~ Sun Tzu * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: SSH woes
Hi Ken, Which SSH is this? OpenSSH or SSH.com's SSH? Here's a couple of things to verify for the SSH.com one: in ~/.ssh2/ create the following files: identification (with contents: IdKey id_rsa) id_rsa (these two created with ssh-keygen) id_rsa.pub () on the remote machine, put id_rsa.pub in ~/.ssh2/ and create a file called authorization with the contents of: Key id_rsa.pub use the command: ssh -t RSA [EMAIL PROTECTED] And you should be good to go, works for me anyway... unfortunately, I don't use the openssh stuff, so I can't help you there. Ben On 29 May 2002, Kenneth E. Lussier wrote: Hi all, I seem to be suddenly having difficulty with SSH. sshd will not accept public key authentication. Actually, yes, it accepts public key authentication, but it still requires the local password. This used to work fine until I upgraded a few weeks ago to SSH2 (via apt-get). When I use ssh -v -i id_rsa -l kenny my.host.here, I get a whole loyt of stuff, but at the end, I get the output below. Does anyone know what happened?? TIA, Kenny debug1: authentications that can continue: publickey,password debug3: start over, passed a different list publickey,password debug3: preferred publickey,keyboard-interactive,password debug3: authmethod_lookup publickey debug3: remaining preferred: keyboard-interactive,password debug3: authmethod_is_enabled publickey debug1: next auth method to try is publickey debug1: try pubkey: id_rsa debug3: send_pubkey_test debug2: we sent a publickey packet, wait for reply debug1: authentications that can continue: publickey,password debug2: we did not send a packet, disable method debug3: authmethod_lookup password debug3: remaining preferred: ,password debug3: authmethod_is_enabled password debug1: next auth method to try is password [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password: -- Clear conscience never fears midnight knocking. * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Bootable image on CD?
On Wed, 22 May 2002, Benjamin Scott wrote: That is going to be hard. The system expects to be able to write to various parts of the filesystem (swap files, config files, lock files, etc.). That will not work well on a CD. The bootable CDs you get from other people do things like mount a ramdisk as root, and then mount the rest of the CD on /usr or some such. Even if I can dd to a file, then from the bootable cd, dd that back - that would be good enough. I have looked at ghost, and if anyone has experience with that (it does create bootable cd's now, I believe), any expertise would be greatly appreciated. The other thing I had looked at was partition image - which looks to be a ghost clone for linux. Ben -- A tiger never returns to his prey he did not finish off. * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Bootable image on CD?
On Wed, 22 May 2002, quantum wrote: Perhaps you you do something with the Linux Bootable Business Card image (www.lnx-bbc.org) using CDR media One for lnx-bbc, one for your system (less than 650MB). Create a dd image of your system Burn it to CD-ROM Boot with Linux BBC CDROM restore dd image on CDR to disk Exactly what I was looking for, thank you! -- You can only go halfway into the darkest forest; then you are coming out the other side. * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Bootable image on CD?
On Wed, 22 May 2002, Benjamin Scott wrote: Let's back up a second, here. Exactly what are you trying to accomplish, and why? :-) Have a working box must make duplicates of this box for other customers Want to make it: a) easy to duplicate b) easy to recover from if the customer whacks files c) cheap to ship I don't particularly care if the CD itself is useless for everything but this function. -- One monk shoulders water by himself; two can still share the labor among them. When it comes to three, they have to go thirsty. * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Microsoft admits their products are fatally flawed
On Tue, 21 May 2002, Richard Soule wrote: Benjamin Scott wrote: Oh, this is just too good. http://www.eweek.com/article/0,3658,s%253D701%2526a%253D26875,00.asp First, remember the letter from the Brazilian politician? It seems like a case could be made that using closed source is NOT the way to go. How about sending both links to our politicians with a nicely worded letter... I'm not sure I'd give this so much importance. Really, what I see here is risk mitigation to avoid potential liability for terrorist attacks on gov't machines. Sorry, we told you we weren't secure in a court of law, you can't do much about it. It is notable, but it's marketing/risk management spin. I would imagine that if Red Hat were in the same position, they'd say the same thing. Just my guess, of course, but how could they/why would they claim otherwise? Just my .02.. -- It is easier to fight for principles than to live up to them. * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Trolling for Topics
On Tue, 21 May 2002, Jon Hall wrote: o Cablemodems: tricks of dealing with I can take this one on, not sure how large a topic it would be, however. o intro to security I'm willing to handle this one, unless someone with more experience jumps in. o perl We could probably break this up some - CGI Programming, using DBI DB_File, Graphing data (Presenting data to management?), etc.. Of course, the list could go on and on and I don't know how deep we'd want to go into perl before making a spin off group:) Ben -- Shed no tears until seeing the coffin. * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Microsoft admits their products are fatally flawed
On Tue, 21 May 2002, Richard Soule wrote: To me that is a HUGE difference. The more I think about this the more it becomes apparent that open source should be required for all gov't software [ except mine, of course :) ]. Excellent point - one I hadn't considered. So that doesn't really mean RH would say the same thing, but still, I think that Microsoft saying their stuff isn't secure doesn't mean a whole hell of a lot. I don't think much will be won on that front unless it's as a If I had just ONE MORE reason to go with Linux, I would kind of thing. Ben -- Judge not the horse by his saddle. * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: May MELBA Meeting information
On Mon, 20 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, if anyone wants to get together for dinner and/or drinks on Wednesday night, we can do that. If someone has an alternative meeting place we can try on short notice that meets all our requirements: - free - close to source of decent beer (preferably microbrew) - cheap food - electricity - decent sized room to hold meeting in I just got off the phone with the city clerk's office. The room is the Auditorium on the 3rd floor at the city hall. It is free to use and the only thing that has to be done to request it is writing a letter. The room holds quite a few... 100 is the only 'official' number I got, but I don't think we're approaching that yet -- are we? The only thing that can bump you is official city business. Otherwise it's first come first serve. Just thinking back, there were projection screens in the room + a stage that could be nice for presentations. I imagine the president or some other board member should be the person to coordinate, let me know if you'd like my help here. Letters can either be dropped off or mailed to: City Clerk's office ATTN: Pat City of Nashua 229 Main St. Nashua, NH 030?? -- Flies never visit an egg that has no crack. * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: May MELBA Meeting information
On Mon, 20 May 2002, Ben Boulanger wrote: The only thing that can bump you is official city business. Otherwise it's first come first serve. Just thinking back, there were projection screens in the room + a stage that could be nice for presentations. I imagine the president or some other board member should be the person to coordinate, let me know if you'd like my help here. Forgot to mention: This week sounds pretty booked for them, but with if we were to give them firm hours (I wasn't sure what the official slating was) it might fit in.. -- Simulated disorder postulates perfect discipline; simulated fear postulates courage; simulated weakness postulates strength. ~ Sun Tzu * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: May MELBA Meeting information
On Mon, 20 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since I'm no where *near* Nashua to drop off a letter, and mailing it tomorrow may not get it there via snail-mail until Thursday, could *someone* in the Nashua area take care of this for us? I'm in Nashua, I can take care of this. I would say that we would like to use the room from 19:30 until 21:00ish, at which point we can retire to Martha's for more food/beer. What day(s)? This Wednesday/Thursday? I can determine the availability before dropping the letter so that only one has to be dropped off. Do we have any alternate days (as I was told this week is pretty full). Do we want to request this place regularly as a backup (if that can be done)? If so, 4th wednesday, 19:30 - 21:00 always? Ben -- To fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting. ~ Sun Tzu * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Meeting Wednesday night
On Mon, 20 May 2002, Jon Hall wrote: Another possibility is Daniel Webster College. As I think I told you, I visited them the night they were starting their .NET training, but they were interested in making a firmer contact with GNHLUG and offered the use of their facilities for meetings. Sounds like this might be a better option. Beside the fact that they're probably going to be easier schedule wise, it creates a nice connection! :) -- To understand your parents' love you must raise children yourself. * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: May MELBA Meeting information
On Mon, 20 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yikes, not unless you want to push this out until next week. What's the concensus here? My vote goes for the DWC, I'll get the ball rolling on the City Hall for backup and find out if we fall out of grace for not showing. We can use it as backup or special purpose when a stage would be of use (anyone know any tap routines?). Ben -- Married couples tell each other a thousand things without speech. * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Dealing with spaces in filenames re: scripts...
On Fri, 17 May 2002, Ken Ambrose wrote: for i in * do mogrify -geometry 30%x30% $i echo Done with $i done Unfortunately, it takes each seperate word as a different paramater. I -know- I've done this before, but I just can't remember how. Suggestions? The easiest way I can think to do this is: OLDIFS=$IFS IFS= for i in * do mogrify -geometry 30%x30% $i echo Done with $i done IFS=$OLDIFS (IFS = Internal field seperator.. just set it to newline and only newline) -- Every sweet has its sour; every evil its good. - Ralph Waldo Emerson * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: spam filter problem
On Thu, 16 May 2002, James R. Van Zandt wrote: If someone has a non-risky way to test procmail rules, I'd appreciate hearing about it. Don't send to /dev/null at first, send to something you can get to with your mail reader - ~/mail/filtered or something usually works for me. :0 H # recognize junk mail by subject need a * here, don't you? ^Subject: (ADV:) /dev/null :0 H # foreign language junk mail * charset=.ks_c_5601-1987. Not sure about this one... what's the actual header line look like for this? \. is needed if you want to match a ., but.. I'm not familiar with the header you're going for.. Ben -- Better a diamond with a flaw than a pebble without one. * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: EXT2 to EXT3
On 15 May 2002, Kenneth E. Lussier wrote: the existing data on the drives. However, anything that looks this easy usually ends up being a nightmare for me. So, any words of wisdom before I try converting production servers? Journaling is well worth the hit... just make sure you have a good backup :) I haven't had any problems converting yet. Ben -- If you must play, decide on three things at the start: the rules of the game, the stakes, and the quitting time. * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Xbox ideas
On 15 May 2002, Ryan T. McCarthy wrote: http://www.osopinion.com/perl/story/8895.html Sure, it isn't a Free solution, so it won't please the purists out there, but I love it. IANAP (programmer), but it sounds right to me. Not to mention the great use for hot spares! Instead of just sitting there depreciating, it could be used for getting out co-worker aggressions. -- Truth or reality is avoided when it is painful. We can revise our 'maps' only when we have the discipline to overcome that pain. To have such discipline, we must be totally dedicated to truth. We must always hold truth to be more vital to our self-interest than our comfort. Conversely, we must always consider our personal discomfort relatively unimportant and, indeed, even welcome it, in the search for truth. Mental health is an ongoing process of dedication to reality at all costs M. Scott Peck, M.D. (The Road Less Traveled, Part One: Discipline) * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: linux BIOS
On Mon, 13 May 2002, Derek D. Martin wrote: I propose that when providing links to stories, yes! Please try and provide some background as to what the story is about. I'm sure I'm not the only one on the list who gets hundreds of e-mails a day, many of which consist of things like: snip I'm curious if others agree with this... It might be helpful to the list to know how people feel about it. Maybe most people really don't want a hint about the story's topic. My suspicion is otherwise though... While on the whole I tend to agree with you, and find it useful when there's something - however small it is. Be that as it may, there are times when the person sending the link would do it no justice. Besides that, there are times when the person sending a link simply doesn't have the time or desire to summarize. Each person and each link will be a seperate case, with seperate influencing factors that make the person make the decision to either summarize at length, copy the whole story, simply provide a subject line or provide nothing at all. I find it pretty presumptious of you to assume people should provide you with the summary.. You have your own criteria that decides whether you read it or not, why should someone sending a link to a list feel like they have to provide a summary for you to read it? In my case, if someone reads it and finds it interested, great! If not, so be it... it really has little impact on my day. Ben -- Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the things you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. Mark Twain * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Netiquette (was Re: linux BIOS)
Unless there's some compelling reason to continue on with various viewpoints, all completely reasonable and logical to those who hold them, lets suffice it to say that there are differing opinions and kill this thread. Many have chimed in with their viewpoints, experiences and preferences and I think there's little confusion about any of them. Ben -- If you bow at all, bow low. * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Red Hat 7.3
On 9 May 2002, R. Sean Hartnett wrote: Anyone try out the latest release? Curious as to what first impression it made? Yep, I'm running it at work... it's nice. KDE 3.0 is fairly slick, the installer's easy... Evolution works great... Not many complaints yet, really. Ben -- If you know the enemy and know yourself you need not fear the results of a hundred battles. ~ Sun Tzu * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
DOJ's kids do's and dont's page
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Re: DOJ's kids do's and dont's page
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RE: home construction/remodeling packages
There's this... it seems more in depth than those off the shelf programs
though, so it might not be what you're looking for. Maybe it'll be of
use.
http://www.cycas.de/
Ben
On Sat, 4 May 2002, Carl Helmers wrote:
This does not answer your question re a Linux
home modelling packgages, but what you want sounds
like a product called 3D Architect, version 4.0
which I purchased at Compusa in Nashua a couple of
months ago and finally started using last week...
(I run it on my Windoze 98 HP Pavillion box...)
I, too would like to have a package with slightly
more functionality than 3D-Architect v4.0 that
I could run on my Linux boxes, but alas I have no
such package in the Linux universe...
... Carl
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Sent: 5/4/02 3:53 PM
Subject: home construction/remodeling packages
Are there Linux software packages available
to help with home construction/remodeling?
Having never used such software I'm not even
completely sure what I'm asking for, but I'd
think such a package would at least (and I'm
talking about something more than xfig) help
you lay out a floorplan. Fancier ones might
provide some CAD assistance, perhaps even
allowing you to model the entire structure
right down to the studs and wiring and maybe
even generating a materials list for the
project. A *really* cool package might even
let you model the entire structure in 3D and
allow you to move individual components on
a what-if basis, etc, etc, etc...
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Partition Image
Anyone out there use Partition Image? I'm having some odd problems with
the precompiled binary from their site. It appears to be a bug... but
I'd like to confirm that I'm not doing something stupid prior to compiling
from source.
I'm using 0.6.1 - both server and client...
Here's the error, followed by a strace on the pid.. I'm guessing the
0.6.1 vs 0.6.1 LOG is the problem, but can't be sure.
Connexion refused by server:
versions mismatch
a trace on the process shows:
accept(5, {sin_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(35665),
sin_addr=inet_addr(64.254.172.117)}}, [16]) = 7
getpid()= 3112
write(3, [Main] net.cpp-Banner#121: gene..., 52) = 52
getpid()= 3112
write(3, [Main] netserver.cpp-AcceptClie..., 54) = 54
send(7, 0.6.1\0 ..., 33, 0) = 33
recv(7, 0.6.1 LOG\0 ..., 33, MSG_WAITALL) = 33
getpid()= 3112
write(3, [Main] netserver.cpp-AcceptClie..., 80) = 80
send(7, nack\0, 5, 0) = 5
send(7, 1234567\0, 8, 0) = 8
send(7, version\0, 8, 0) = 8
getpid()= 3112
write(3, [Main] partimaged-client.cpp-Re..., 53) = 53
getpid()= 3112
write(3, [Main] netserver.cpp-AcceptClie..., 51) = 51
getpid()= 3112
write(3, [Main] exceptions.cpp-CExceptio..., 67) = 67
getpid()= 3112
write(3, [Main] partimaged-main.cpp-main..., 56) = 56
getpid()= 3112
write(3, [Main] partimaged-main.cpp-main..., 65) = 65
getpid()= 3112
write(3, [Main] partimaged-main.cpp-main..., 52) = 52
Thanks!
Ben
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Re: Partition Image
On Thu, 2 May 2002, Michael O'Donnell wrote: Hmmm, is the IP addr in question one of yours? Address: 64.254.172.117 Name: anbst01.noc.speedtrak.net Yep, that's the box I'm trying to make the image of. -- So farewell hope, and with hope farewell fear, Farewell remorse: all good to me is lost; Evil, be thou my good. - John Milton * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: RTTVAR?
Round Trip Time, I believe. It's tracking how long it takes for the other box to respond. If it grows too large, it'll take forever for nmap to finish... usually this happens when you try to scan a firewall in stealth mode, not sure if one stealth is the same as the rest. Ben On Thu, 2 May 2002, Thomas M. Albright wrote: I'm checking my network with nmap, and i keep getting thie following message: [root@blood root]# nmap -sS -O 192.168.0.1 Starting nmap V. 2.54BETA7 ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) RTTVAR has grown to over 2.3 seconds, decreasing to 2.0 what is RTTVAR? -- There are always ears on the other side of the wall. * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Partition Image
On Thu, 2 May 2002, Bob Bell wrote: Can you verify that something is (was) listening on port 35665? netstat might help you determine this. The server's listening on port 4025. The port you see in the strace is the source port of the packet coming in (the return dest). It's correct.. at least tcpdump and the strace match. It's definitely communicating, so it's not a network/port issue. You can see the nack from the server in the strace with what I'm assuming is the reason of version. Thanks for the help thus far, Ben -- The man who waits for roast duck to fly into mouth will wait a very, very long time. * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Hoss Traders
Is openoffice 642 = 1.0? I'm on a mirror and that's the latest I can see. On openoffice's site it lists: * Release Notes for OpenOffice.org 1.0 * Release Notes for build 641d * Release Notes for build 641c * Release Notes for build 641b * Release Notes for build 638c * Release Notes for build 638 * Release Notes for build 633 * Release Notes for build 632 * Release Notes for build 627 So seems to me that 642 might be it.. -- Why does Sea World have a seafood restaurant? I'm halfway through my fishburger and I realize, Oh my GodI could be eating a slow learner. -- Lynda Montgomery * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: ATA disks and controllers (was: Hoss Traders)
On Wed, 1 May 2002, Benjamin Scott wrote: So, does anyone have any opinions about ATA hard disks? I am looking at the 80 GB Western Digital model WD800BB: Western Dig. used to be the choice disk maker, however recently they've been suckin' as bad as quantum. I'd go with Maxtor - their RMA policy is the best. WD's warantee may be better, but I honestly think their RMA policy is pretty bad. They may have changed it recently. The only other alternative I am likely to find at a local shop appears to be Maxtor, and both the specs and the warranty are not as good for the Maxtor as they are for the WDC units. WD and Maxtor are pretty similar as far as quality goes (I believe), the only one to avoid that I've found is IBM and their dexstar (sp?) drives... they're using some kind of material that doesn't stand up well to continued use. We've tried to RMA some drives here that fell under this and they said no, due to the fact that their Tech Specs say .. 3000 hours a month or something like that. My motherboard has a High-Point HPT370 ATA controller built-in. Does anyone know if this controller works with Linux? Do I need a special driver? Are there any special tweaks I should use to make it perform well? I have never even hooked anything up to it before now. Mine works fine with the 2.4.?? kernel (I can check the exact rev when I get home) - I didn't have to do much special other than turn it on when I recompiled the kernel. I think I have a 13G SCSI drive at home you could borrow for the show if you'd rather go that way. It's 68 pin. Let me know Ben -- To fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting. ~ Sun Tzu * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: ATA disks and controllers (was: Hoss Traders)
On Wed, 1 May 2002, Benjamin Scott wrote: What do you mean by sucking? That's rather vague. :) A bunch of us here are hardware geeks - what exactly that means.. hell if I know, but - what it results in is that we're responsible for a lot of hardware where we work and where we play... we started tallying everything we'd been fixing, etc... and we all have had the most issues with WD hard drives... be it bad sectors or out and out failures. Maxtor -was- up there, but they've since dropped back. I'm more interested in the fact that WDC will RMA the drive for two years longer than Maxtor will. 3-year vs 5-year warranty. How many drives have you had fail after 3 years that you actually RMA'd? Just curious - it's never happened to me. In 3 years, drives will have become so cheap and advanced in a number of ways that it just makes sense to upgrade... just my opinion.. Someone recently made a big stink about the fact that IBM published specs that give the duty cycle the drive is tested for. All manufacturers make that sort of assumption when they come up with their MTBF ratings for desktop drives; IBM just made it obvious. The warranty period should not be affected; if IBM gave you static about that, complain to your sales rep. If they still won't budge, complain to the BBB. I agree, you've got to do something but the BBB really isn't much of a force. It doesn't hurt to do it, but.. Again, this would be opinion:) Check out slashdot - I think they had it on there... we're not the only ones here. The drives are just failing... even if some people are getting RMA's, the drives are still junk, and can't be run in a production system reliably.. why would I want to pursue it more, spend more time (time = money) rather than just take the whack on the knuckles and say 'Sorry, IBM drives are off the list. Lets buy these other ones.' It doesn't hurt to hunt down the RMA (if they're being difficult) when you have time, but ... who has that? -- Like playing a harp before a cow... * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: How to create a GUID?
On Tue, 30 Apr 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's too trivial to spoof a MAC though. If you're relying upon this for some type of secure transaction, I wouldn't trust a MAC as the GUID. What about using an SSH or GPG key, an md5 hash somehow? Paul has an excellent point. MAC's are perfect if this is something that you may need to muck around with and you don't really need to be secure, you just want something relatively reliably unique. You may need the ability to swap a box out temporarily and force the MAC to the original box. An SSL certificate or any asymmetrical keypair would be a more secure solution, if that's what the design calls for, however. Ben -- To know the road ahead, ask those coming back. * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: How to create a GUID?
On Tue, 30 Apr 2002, Michael O'Donnell wrote: So, educate me - how would you go about using something algorithmic like MD5 or an asymmetrical key-pair to solve this problem? Is it a requirement that a GUID be the same from boot to boot? If a system reboots with a different GUID do things break? If GUID generation is algorithmic how do you know it's unique? Would use of an asymmetrical key-pair (please assume I don't know what I'm talking about) imply that each machine would have a different GUID for every other machine it communicated with? Unfortunately, I don't know enough about exactly what he's trying to do. All I know is he wants a unique identifier on a per system basis. Asymmetrical keypairs could do the job, but so could a number of things - it really depends on exactly what's going on. Are they all calling home at some point and checking in with a centralized box? Is it for asset management? How exactly this would be done is pretty difficult to say without knowing the project. Providing ideas about unique identifiers was all that was asked for... but.. lets take the mothership scenario.. Create an asymmetrical keypair for each machine, make a decision of which place you'd rather store the private key (distributed or centralized). Have the machine contact the mothership every hour on the hour (machines synced to ntp) with the private key - or have the mothership contact the machine hourly with the machine's private key. Run the check to insure the box is, in fact, the box and give it a green light. Lets take another example... syslog checkin. Have the box send its MAC with a timestamp saying that it was alright at the time. You know that the boxes check in with their MAC in syslog every hour. You have a list of MAC addresses to watch for, if you don't see X MAC, you send an email to sysadmin. If you lose a box in the field, you can have it swapped with a hot spare and forge the MAC for a short term solution. Just a couple of ideas. Ben -- Better to do a good deed near at home than go far away to burn incense. * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: SMP kernels?
here's my cat /proc/cpuinfo: processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 6 model : 6 model name : Celeron (Mendocino) stepping: 5 cpu MHz : 400.912 ...(yadda yadda)... processor : 1 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 6 model : 6 model name : Celeron (Mendocino) stepping: 5 cpu MHz : 400.912 [ben@blackavar ben]$ cat /proc/self/cpu cpu 0 1 cpu0 0 1 cpu1 0 0 On Sun, 28 Apr 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi all, How does one tell if the SMP kernel is recognizing both CPUs? I thought more than one CPU would show up in /proc/cpuinfo, but I'm not seeing it. Yet, /proc/self/cpu has 2 lines in it: # pll@taz:/proc/self[1037] $ cat cpu cpu 5 8 cpu0 5 8 Is this indicative of 2 cpus? Shouldn't /proc/cpuinfo have more information? Things *seem* faster, but I don't know if I'm not just hallucinating :) Thanks! - -- Seeya, Paul -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 (debian 2.2-1) iD8DBQE8zGy8uweSOVPxKO4RAtAAAKCYw9bdowjUAm9RMbSJ0zpFGz7UaQCfZSoK XAQ8cafdZv7v35ukzoK5LkA= =bv5g -END PGP SIGNATURE- * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. * -- Thursday, December 10, 1840: I discover a strange track in the snow and learn that some migrating otter has made across from the river to the wood, by my yard and the smith=92s shop, in the silence of the night. I cannot but smile at my own wealth, when I am thus reminded that every chink and cranny of nature is full to overflowing, that each instant is crowded full of great events. --Henry David Thoreau * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: SMP kernels?
Also, uname -a on mine shows: Linux blackavar.com 2.4.17 #7 SMP Sun Jan 27 08:17:09 EST 2002 i686 unknown * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: SMP kernels?
Interesting... Here's mine (only showing 1 cpu): Yep, doesn't look like SMP support is on.. As I recall, I just recompiled the kernel with SMP support, I don't remember anything tricky (other than making grub recognize it, getting fed up with grub and going back to lilo:)) Ben * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: ISP Recommendations?
On Fri, 26 Apr 2002, Michael Costolo wrote: there). I haven't heard a single good thing about Adelphia's cable service and we just found out our line doesn't qualify for DSL. My goodness. A bad cablemodem is better than any good dialup in my opinion! :) We're looking out that way (Amherst) too, and that's what I'll be going if I end up there. Ben * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Another (simpler) bash scripting question...
This is a VAX system you're trying it on?!? :) On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Benjamin Scott wrote: Try xyzzy. ;-) * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Wireless
I'm having success doing just that with the Linksys wireless router and a wireless card w/my work laptop when I bring it home. I have the linksys BEFW11 (or something like that.. it's the 4 port broadband router with wireless) and I use a linksys wireless card (though I don't believe you're locked into linksys's wireless card - any 802.11b will work). Ben On 23 Apr 2002, R. Sean Hartnett wrote: Would anyone be able to recommend any wireless equipment? What I am thinking of doing is taking my current ATT broadband feed that then runs into a Linksys Broadband router and then to my little network of PCs and somehow introduce the ability to connect another PC through a wireless connection. Also, if anyone has any other ideas I would also be willing to look into as well. This other PC, to be convenient, needs to be located away from my little setup, and I do not wish to run that long cable, it would not be easy to accomplish. I also would like the solution to be platform neutral. Thanks Sean * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. * -- Shed no tears until seeing the coffin. * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Wireless
Yep, you sure can. I haven't felt like dropping the dough to try it, but definitely a cool idea. Particulary for creating the directional antennae at: http://www.turnpoint.net/wireless/has.html Ben On 23 Apr 2002, R. Sean Hartnett wrote: Ben, Thanks for the reply. Would you know if you could have two of these standalone units communicate with each other? I will check out the Linksys site. I was thinking that if I had two base stations talking with each other, I could just use any old nic connected by standard Ethernet cable. Thanks again, Sean On Tue, 2002-04-23 at 15:29, Ben Boulanger wrote: I'm having success doing just that with the Linksys wireless router and a wireless card w/my work laptop when I bring it home. I have the linksys BEFW11 (or something like that.. it's the 4 port broadband router with wireless) and I use a linksys wireless card (though I don't believe you're locked into linksys's wireless card - any 802.11b will work). Ben On 23 Apr 2002, R. Sean Hartnett wrote: Would anyone be able to recommend any wireless equipment? What I am thinking of doing is taking my current ATT broadband feed that then runs into a Linksys Broadband router and then to my little network of PCs and somehow introduce the ability to connect another PC through a wireless connection. Also, if anyone has any other ideas I would also be willing to look into as well. This other PC, to be convenient, needs to be located away from my little setup, and I do not wish to run that long cable, it would not be easy to accomplish. I also would like the solution to be platform neutral. Thanks Sean * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. * -- Shed no tears until seeing the coffin. * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. * -- So farewell hope, and with hope farewell fear, Farewell remorse: all good to me is lost; Evil, be thou my good. - John Milton * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Wireless
Did they give you a timeframe as to when it's due out?? Last I checked this was vaporware. If it's out, care to share any of the info the rep gave ya? Pricing, etc..? Ben On 23 Apr 2002, R. Sean Hartnett wrote: Spotted this on the Linksys site, and called their support with some questions, http://www.linksys.com/products/plbridge.asp Since I will have a desktop and not a laptop at the other end, I think I might take this route. Range, through put, and interference would appear to not be an issue, which is also what the rep said as well. Sean On Tue, 2002-04-23 at 15:44, Ben Boulanger wrote: Yep, you sure can. I haven't felt like dropping the dough to try it, but definitely a cool idea. Particulary for creating the directional antennae at: http://www.turnpoint.net/wireless/has.html Ben On 23 Apr 2002, R. Sean Hartnett wrote: Ben, Thanks for the reply. Would you know if you could have two of these standalone units communicate with each other? I will check out the Linksys site. I was thinking that if I had two base stations talking with each other, I could just use any old nic connected by standard Ethernet cable. Thanks again, Sean On Tue, 2002-04-23 at 15:29, Ben Boulanger wrote: I'm having success doing just that with the Linksys wireless router and a wireless card w/my work laptop when I bring it home. I have the linksys BEFW11 (or something like that.. it's the 4 port broadband router with wireless) and I use a linksys wireless card (though I don't believe you're locked into linksys's wireless card - any 802.11b will work). Ben On 23 Apr 2002, R. Sean Hartnett wrote: Would anyone be able to recommend any wireless equipment? What I am thinking of doing is taking my current ATT broadband feed that then runs into a Linksys Broadband router and then to my little network of PCs and somehow introduce the ability to connect another PC through a wireless connection. Also, if anyone has any other ideas I would also be willing to look into as well. This other PC, to be convenient, needs to be located away from my little setup, and I do not wish to run that long cable, it would not be easy to accomplish. I also would like the solution to be platform neutral. Thanks Sean * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. * -- Shed no tears until seeing the coffin. * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. * -- So farewell hope, and with hope farewell fear, Farewell remorse: all good to me is lost; Evil, be thou my good. - John Milton * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. * -- Time is the best teacher; Unfortunately it kills all its students. * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Wednesday Meeting
Heckle Ben?? I'm so glad there's more than one Ben here ;) On the other hand, I may change my name to Bem so that there's no confusion with who's being heckled :) On Tue, 23 Apr 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In a message dated: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 16:19:46 EDT Fibre said: Is there a meetign wednesday for MELBA? If so someone sould reply to this AND put something on gnhlug.org. What Time? Where? Yes, in theory there is a meeting tomorrow night: Where:2nd floor Martha's Exchange When: 19:30ish What: Someone is supposed to be talking about spam filtering I think :) Why: Beer, food, Linux?! Backup plan: Eat, Drink, Heckle Ben :) I apologize for not being a little more organized this month. This new job thing has gotten in my way, and I've been quite distracted. (of course, anyone who doesn't like my meeting scheduling abilities is more than welcome to take them over, just say the word, and you're the new MELBA Chairman :) - -- Sincerely, Paul Lussier Senior Systems and Network Engineer Co-Chairman, Greater New Hampshire Linux User's Group (GNHLUG) Chairman, Nashua Chapter GNHLUG http://www.gnhlug.org Events: http://www.gnhlug.org/lug_cal/month.php -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 (debian 2.2-1) iD8DBQE8xcdeuweSOVPxKO4RAmleAJ9ynWvdlLaTERHqWkMJ+9vtqqwNHACgvZka Ihw7MMq3TYyn3w/L3etr3Ro= =e0UN -END PGP SIGNATURE- * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug-announce' in the message body. * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. * -- And this gray spirit yearning in desire To follow knowledge like a sinking star, Beyond the utmost bound of human thought. - Lord Alfred Tennyson * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Another (simpler) bash scripting question...
How about something like:
du -sb ./*|sort -g|tail|sed 's/\.\///'|awk '{print $2}'
to get the names... and then wrap it up in a mail command... it's not a
bash script since it forks a few times, but it's a quick'n'dirty.
Ben
On Mon, 22 Apr 2002, Brian Chabot wrote:
Hey, all -
I'm attempting to write a script to put in cron.weekly that will find
the 25 users who use the most disk space and email them a warning.
My relatively simple question is:
Is there anything in bash that is the equivelent to the old basic
mid/left/right way of cutting down a variable? If I have a line from
the du output, basically I'm trying to define a variable for the
corresponding username (in other words, given: 1234M /home/USER I want
'USER so as to then turn around and email that user. (I already have
way of removing non-user directories in /home).
Any thoughts?
Oh, and this is fora RH7.2 system and really does not need to be all
that portable.
Thanks,
Brian
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Re: (OT) Hardware Pointers
On 21 Apr 2002, Kenneth E. Lussier wrote: point me in the right directions. I am looking to buy a new motherboard because the one that I have is fairly limited in it's upgrade path. With a new motherboard purchase, I am going to be making the jump into DDR RAM (right now I still use PC100 SDRAM). One of the problems is that there seem to be many different levels of DDR (ranging from PC1600 to PC3200). I'd like to read up on what exactly these specifications mean, if the are compatible, interchangeable, etc. My experiences are that DDRSDR (at this stage of the game) provides very little enhanced performance over Standard SDR. I've used both and the benchmark numbers as well as overall user experience is near invisible, if noticeable at all. The gamer sites notice the same thing and only very recently have been able to point out any change in performance, and that was insignificant. There's a lot of good review sites around, and I'm sure we all have our favorites.. here's mine: http://www.hardocp.com http://www.sharkyextreme.com If you're upgrading your motherboard for other (various) reasons, I'm quite happy with my AMD Athlon boxes. They're cheap, they're good. I will tell you that you need to pay attention to the heatsink. I recently burned up an older 1.33G of mine while I was swapping it into a different box and (oh, how I loathe to say it) installed the heatsink backwards (there's a little lip to match the socket's lip - wrong side... doh). On the bright side, I replaced it with a AMD XP 1700+ (the + is the effective intel speed - what it compares with. It runs at 1470 Mhz.. I think?) for $118 - with the 3 year warrantee and the heatsink/fan. I recently also bought an MSI K7N420 Pro (has onboard Nvidia GeForce 2 MX style video onboard audio and onboard ethernet) for $130. Essentially, everything I needed for $250, since I already had the rest of the stuff. Hard to beat that... and while it's not the best and fastest video card or probably the best sound card (though it does support dolby digital..?!) it works for me.. it's just a cheap second box for multiple uses. Ben -- Reshape one's foot to try to fit into a new shoe. * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: (OT) Hardware Pointers
On Sun, 21 Apr 2002, Ben Boulanger wrote: Oh, as far as the PC2100, PC - just go with the fastest your board will support. The rating is the bus speed that the memory runs at (correct me if I'm wrong here!) 1600 is 100Mhz (effective 200Mhz, since it's double data rate) and 2100 is 133Mhz (effective 266Mhz) ... I'm guessing that 3200 is 166Mhz (effective 333Mhz) but I've never used it... just a guess there. Nope, I was wrong - 3200 is 200Mhz, effectively 400. Ben -- Shed no tears until seeing the coffin. * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: (OT) Hardware Pointers
On 21 Apr 2002, Kenneth E. Lussier wrote: Well, I will be going with AMD. The board that I plan on getting is a Shuttle AK35GT, maybe the AK35GTR (same board, but the latter has RAID). The board had 4 slots for DDR RAM. I will most likely put in 1GB (either 2 512MB or 4 256MB). The problem is that I don't know what *KIND* of DDR I should use. There seem to be about 12 different ratings (PC). They are all about the same price, which would lead me to believe that they are about the same. However, I know that this can't be the case, since that would be too easy :-) Oh, as far as the PC2100, PC - just go with the fastest your board will support. The rating is the bus speed that the memory runs at (correct me if I'm wrong here!) 1600 is 100Mhz (effective 200Mhz, since it's double data rate) and 2100 is 133Mhz (effective 266Mhz) ... I'm guessing that 3200 is 166Mhz (effective 333Mhz) but I've never used it... just a guess there. Ben -- A sly rabbit will have three openings to its den. * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: DMCA petition
Okay, I've voted... and I found one against the SSSCA. The DMCA is childs play in comparison. http://www.petitiononline.com/SSSCA/petition.html On Sat, 20 Apr 2002, Derek D. Martin wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 If you haven't found/signed it yet, you can do so here: http://www.petitiononline.com/nixdmca/ - -- Derek Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - I prefer mail encrypted with PGP/GPG! GnuPG Key ID: 0x81CFE75D Retrieve my public key at http://pgp.mit.edu Learn more about it at http://www.gnupg.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8wa0XdjdlQoHP510RAnN3AJ0eF2ixghq8J8OMTRSMPuiIiY1I8wCfZFdS MYKY8Cwqcr+zQmn8kAVv6v0= =2aNq -END PGP SIGNATURE- * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. * -- Reshape one's foot to try to fit into a new shoe. * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: I need a date!
On Fri, 19 Apr 2002, Benjamin Scott wrote: On 19 Apr 2002, at 2:58pm, Kevin D. Clark wrote: http://www.focusresearch.com/gregor/psh/ Do you use this as your login shell? :-) Eesh! A perl window manager, a perl shell.. how far off are we from the Perlnel? or Pfree86? -- Sow much, reap much; sow little, reap little. * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: console access through serial port?
On Thu, 18 Apr 2002, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: 1. Is there any way to get access to the console through the serial port? I have another system that does this for VMS and T64U systems (anyone remember VCS?), but it's unclear to me whether Linux supports it -- and, if so, how I can set it up. I basically want to be able to give an irresistable three finger salute through the serial port if need be, to *force* a crash/reboot. To get kernel info output to the serial line (and lose it on the VGA line), in lilo.conf add: serial=0,38400n8 image=blah append=console=ttyS0,38400 and to get a vty on your serial line, in inittab add something like: s0:12345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty ttyS0 DT38400 ansi Then connect up the proper cable (Null modem for computer to computer) and run minicom or some other terminal program on it. 2. Provided I can get in, is there any way I can *crash* the system so I can take a look at a dump to figure out WIH was going on to wedge it? There's a few different things you can do (gdb?) to crash a system, you should be able to find that on google... but I wonder if that kernel config option SysRq key would help you here. Check the kernel stuff on that one. Ben -- A gem cannot be polished without friction, nor a man perfected without trials. * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: New Question
On Wed, 17 Apr 2002, Thomas M. Albright wrote: Most of that I can figure out on my own. The only problem I really have is with the dates. I know 'date +%x` will output the current date as mm/dd/. `date +%j` will give me the day of the year (eg.: today is 107). Using that format quits working sometime in October tho. (10/3 is 276 + 90 = 366) I've had to do a lot of this kind of thing recently and I've found that using epoch time (seconds since 1/1 1970) is the easiest method. Perl has all kinds of manipulations for this (and if you're interested in it, I can give you some examples). time and localtime should do it, I believe. Ben -- Vicious as a tigeress can be, she never eats her own cubs. * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: AOL as a linux ISP?
On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, Mark Glassberg wrote: I'd like to teach linux to my nephew. Unfortunately, his mother won't be happy if she is asked to a) get a second ISP, or b) replace AOL with and ISP that can be accessed from linux. Has anyone hacked a dialup connection to AOL? If not, is there a way to boot AOL from Windows and switch operating systems to linux while still maintaining the connection? Yep, awhile back all a friend of mine had was AOL and wanted NAT in his house... I figured I'd bring my box over and at least give it a shot. All it took was a PPP connection to the AOL dial up and I was good to go. This may have changed recently, but it worked a couple of years ago. Ben -- Distant water won't help to put out a fire close at hand. * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Fun GNOME Eye candy..
On Tue, 9 Apr 2002, Ken Ambrose wrote: - the 1600sw has a funky resolution of 1600x1024 that most digital video cards don't support, and If it's of any use, my GeForce3 ti200 card supports that res, and here's a test setup that used the 1600sw with a geforce3... http://www.hothardware.com/hh_files/SV/sgi1600sw(2).shtml -- The man who stands on a hill with his mouth open will wait a long time for roast duck to drop in. ~ Confucius * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Turning a PC into a RAID box?
Found this old (seemingly dead) project.. .might be worth contacting the folks who started it.. http://linuxdisk.sourceforge.net/ On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Tom Buskey wrote: Benjamin Scott said: If you think of a SCSI-to-SCSI RAID controller, you have a perfect example of a smart device acting as a SCSI target. The limitations we encounter here are mostly in Linux. The Linux kernel's SCSI subsystem has long been a broken mess. My understanding is that things were improved somewhat for 2.4, but a total rewrite is still needed. So the core SCSI code, and the device drivers, simply do not support this kind of operation. Additionally, many SCSI host adapters (either firmware or silicon) do not implement target mode, or do so poorly. Anyone know of anyone doing this with FreeBSD, NetBSD, or OpenBSD? I came up with a reference to SCSI target mode on FreeBSD in 1998 but the thread died there. -- When you have only two pennies left in the world, buy a loaf of bread with one, and a lily with the other. * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Anyone know what P3P is?
On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, Benjamin Scott wrote: Am I the only one who thinks P3P is a joke? I mean, you're asking a site you don't trust if you should trust them to protect your privacy. (If you trusted them, you would not have to ask them about their privacy policy.) This is kind of like asking the guy on the street corner, So, this watch is not stolen, right? While I agree with you on the overall point, I think it's important that we look at this for what it is. It's not an end all be all solution to privacy concerns. There isn't such a thing. This is an exploratory step, just like everything else. Without someone taking a step there's never progress. Everything has its issues and pitfalls - look at SSL certs. So, while yes, I agree that there are certainly problems with trusting the word of the person you're buying from, this is more an extension to the current system of 'Let me click on your privacy policy and read it'. This moves the privacy policy into a machine readable format that rules can hopefully later be built on. Without the underlying structure no one's going to build something into a browser. Ben -- Make happy those who are near, and those who are far will come. * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: RH 7.2 GRUB Help
On Mon, 1 Apr 2002, Greg Kettmann wrote: So here's the problem. I put back my original hard drive as a slave on the IDE channel. It comes up as a C: drive. I tried adding it to the GRUB menu, but I can't get it to boot. Should I be able to boot this Windows 98SE drive? When I tell it to boot from (1,0) it just hangs, although first it does identify the drive as being VFAT or FAT32. I tried using the Map (0,1) and Map (1,0). I tried at least 20 different variations but couldn't get it to boot. I don't have my notes with me right now but I used the commands exactly as stated in the GRUB manual. Hi Greg, I'm new to the list, so if your setup is common knowledge, I apologize. In any case, is the new drive SCSI? If so, your onboard IDE will take the first physical drive slots (C,D,E,F under dos/windows if you have 2 controllers). I don't know of a way around that... I think you'd have to initialize your SCSI BIOS before your IDE BIOS, but maybe someone else has an idea there. If it's not SCSI, and you're working with all IDE drives... I'd like to understand the setup a little better. You've got 2 physical hard drives, 1 is the new one you installed RH7.2, dual boot with XP on and the other is your original 98/SE drive? If you're sure you've got the jumpers on those configured to Master/Slave correctly, they should be working. What -might- be happening under XP, though, is that - IIRC - the physical disk's primary partitions get mapped first, so - if you have 2 drives, lets call them hda and hdb, and you have 2 partitions on hda and one on hdb (hda1, hda2, hdb1) then they'll map like this under windows: hda1 - C: (Assuming it's a windows partition type) hdb1 - D: ( ) hda2 - E: ( ) Now, if you don't have a windows partition type on any of them, just bump up the lower ones... which - sounds to me like what could be going on for you - on hda1, you have linux - unrecognizeable partitionunder windows, So, hdb1 becomes C and hda2 becomes D There's a couple of ways to solve this that might work, one, you might try and throw a small linux partition in front of your 98/SE partition, making the primary be unrecognizeable... but that's really not as clean as just wiping the old drive and installing XP on there. Not sure if it's a good size or not, but, that does seem the cleanest option all around. Hope that helps, Ben -- To fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting. ~ Sun Tzu * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Apache server attbi question
On Tue, 2 Apr 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course, this doesn't show that they're filtering http, howerver, be forewarned, from what I hear, running a server at your end of an attbi connection *is* a violation of your service agreement, contrary to the way things were under M1. It is, and it was even under M1. We never enforced it back then, and they're still not right now. I've been hearing rumors of the new comcast merger impacting this kind of thing (in fact, I've heard they're going to attempt to find people running NAT), but we'll see what happens. As far as running a server goes, unless you're causing a problem (like running a DHCP server, which.. is now filtered by modem rules), they're not going to bother you. Serious bandwidth hogs catch some attention, but we couldn't ever do anything about them, really. The only people on the radar were people running quake servers, heavy mail servers, news servers, or offensive content web servers (child porn, unprotected regular porn, that kind of thing). Ben -- To understand your parents' love you must raise children yourself. * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Apache server attbi question
On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Derek D. Martin wrote: I believe what causes this is that the router forwards the source IP and port (that of the client) to the virtual host as-is (i.e. it does not NAT the client). Since the IP address is internal, the server sends the traffic to it directly, rather than back through the router. The client is expecting a reply from www.myhost.com, but the return traffic appears to come from 192.168.x.x instead of www.myhost.com, so the IP stack throws it out. This is really interesting as I'm not seeing any of this with my setup. Technically, I should be, as I have a very similar setup. If this is, in fact the cause, I'd like to try and reproduce it. My setup is as follows, if someone has an idea what I can change to reproduce this, it'd be great to know, or if it helps someone get past this problem, great! Cablemodem - Switch (32 Port 802.1Q support) on Vlan 1 Linksys WAN - Switch on Vlan 1 (Public) Linksys LAN - Switch on Vlan 2 (RFC1918) Linux box - Switch on Vlan 2 Windows PC - Switch on Vlan 2 Linksys WAN Addr. Port 80, 25, 22 forwards to linux box Linux: hostname blackavar.com DHCP server serving RFC1918 space (the linksys's is limited) DNS Server for RFC1918 hosts 80 - Apache 1.3.22 I can access both the RFC1918 IP or the Public IP from the Windows PC without any problems. I don't believe this was at all different when I went direct into the Linksys's built in switch... Shouldn't be, even in this case. -- Distant water won't help to put out a fire close at hand. * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Apache server attbi question
On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Jack Hodgson wrote: From inside my local net I could only http, telnet, ftp, etc. to the linux box (also inside my local net) via the local net ip num. But then I updated the firmware in my linksys router, and now I can use the external domain name, and/or ip num, and it routes everything OK. Ah hah! I also have updated firmware. Anyone seeing this problem with the updated firmware? -- Enjoy yourself. It's later than you think. * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Anyone know what P3P is?
On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Steven W. Orr wrote: There's an article in this months Linux Journal which sez that I'm able to configure my browser to only allow visits to P3P certified sites. I can't find it in either Netscape or Mozilla. Anyone know where this is configured? http://www.w3.org/P3P/ http://www.w3.org/P3P/implementations Looks like only IE6 has implemented it, but I only see how to view the report, not only allow P3P sites that have them.. -- Like looking for the ass while sitting on its back... * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
