Re: High-speed connectivity in NH (was http://www.whizwireless.com/ )

2002-06-06 Thread Jerry Feldman

As Marc Evans posted, Starband went downhill to the point where he 
disconnected them. One of Starband's issues is that those who used both 
Starband for Internet and Dish Networks for TV paid their bills to Dish. At 
some point, Dish failed to transfer these funds to Starband. This whole 
thing started in the February time frame. At issue is Echostar's (Dish's 
parent) bid to acquire DirecPC. If the merger goes through, then Echostar 
would be the only Satellite TV provider, and with DirecPC, they would 
effectively put Starband out of business. 

My friend who lives in Holland, Ma is still very happy with the service, 
but he is a Windows user. 

The bottom line is that if you want Satellite Internet you are stuck with a 
Windows based system at the present time. Also, at the time I first learned 
about Starband, it was the only 2-way satellite service. I believe that 
DirecPC is now 2-way.  
On 5 Jun 2002 at 19:58, Benjamin Scott wrote:
>   Also, many of the satellite companies are not Linux friendly.  I know one
> of our customers was recently told to switch their gateway from Linux to
> Windows, or lose their feed.  They use Starband, FWIW.

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Re: High-speed connectivity in NH (was http://www.whizwireless.com/)

2002-06-05 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, at 8:25am, Jerry Feldman wrote:
> Another satellite vendor is Starband.

  Again, the real issue with satellite is latency.  It is ideal for
"streaming" content, like multimedia or large file downloads.  It can be
made to work for things like web browsing.  For anything interactive (like
SSH, or a VPN), it is painfully slow.

  Also, many of the satellite companies are not Linux friendly.  I know one
of our customers was recently told to switch their gateway from Linux to
Windows, or lose their feed.  They use Starband, FWIW.

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Re: High-speed connectivity in NH (was http://www.whizwireless.com/)

2002-06-05 Thread Brian Chabot

On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Kurth Bemis wrote:
Re: Sat. Connection in Dublin, NH
> uesd?  why did he switch?

Used, as in I haven't enquired recently.  I believe the whole family
still uses it.

The latency is high, but the transfer rate is quite good and stable,
last I heard.

Brian

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Re: High-speed connectivity in NH (was http://www.whizwireless.com/ )

2002-06-05 Thread Jerry Feldman

Thanks Marc,
I will then no longer recommend them. Larry still has good things to say 
about them. I've been so busy that I have not had time to read The register 
and Inquirer.  
On 5 Jun 2002 at 8:30, Marc Evans wrote:

> Starband filled chapter 11 this week
> (http://dc.internet.com/news/article.php/1181181).
> 
> My experiences with Starband deteriorated to the point that I have
> disconnected the service. If anyone wishes to acquire the equipment for
> Starband, I can provide a "deal" ;-)

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Re: High-speed connectivity in NH (was http://www.whizwireless.com/)

2002-06-05 Thread Marc Evans

Starband filled chapter 11 this week
(http://dc.internet.com/news/article.php/1181181).

My experiences with Starband deteriorated to the point that I have
disconnected the service. If anyone wishes to acquire the equipment for
Starband, I can provide a "deal" ;-)

- Marc

On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, Jerry Feldman wrote:

> Another satellite vendor is Starband.  Starband is 2-way. A friend of mine
> in Holland, Ma loves it. He can't get a local dialup, no cable, no DSL.
> Satellite is affected by the weather. My friend PAMs his antenna in the
> winter. Marc Evans also has Starband. Marc initially used it with either
> Linux or BSD, but he mentioned lately that some of there more recent
> patches are Windows. I know several people who have DirecPC and regret it.
>
>
> On 4 Jun 2002 at 17:12, Brian Chabot wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Ken Ambrose wrote:
> >
> > > NH (Dublin, to be precise)
> >
> > > Alas, I've been unable to find any reasonably-priced high-speed solutions
> > > for Dublin.  VITTS had offered service out there, but nobody is, now, that
> > > I can tell.  So, suggestions?  Satellite?  DSL providers with which I'm
> > > unacquainted?  Cheap fractional T-1?
> >
> > I have a friend in Dublin who used satelite.  DirectPC I think.  It's
> > the only way that far in the "sticks".
>
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Re: High-speed connectivity in NH (was http://www.whizwireless.com/ )

2002-06-05 Thread NSRichrdsn

For what it's worth I was looking into high speed connectivity for the Dublin 
consolidated school. I was able to find out

1) Dublin has its own CO
2) Yankee Magazine has like 3 t-1's running into it

I had started to work with G-4 Communications out of Manchester shortly befor the 
project got cancelled. 

Neal 

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Re: High-speed connectivity in NH (was http://www.whizwireless.com/ )

2002-06-05 Thread Jerry Feldman

Another satellite vendor is Starband.  Starband is 2-way. A friend of mine 
in Holland, Ma loves it. He can't get a local dialup, no cable, no DSL. 
Satellite is affected by the weather. My friend PAMs his antenna in the 
winter. Marc Evans also has Starband. Marc initially used it with either 
Linux or BSD, but he mentioned lately that some of there more recent 
patches are Windows. I know several people who have DirecPC and regret it. 


On 4 Jun 2002 at 17:12, Brian Chabot wrote:

> On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Ken Ambrose wrote:
> 
> > NH (Dublin, to be precise)
> 
> > Alas, I've been unable to find any reasonably-priced high-speed solutions
> > for Dublin.  VITTS had offered service out there, but nobody is, now, that
> > I can tell.  So, suggestions?  Satellite?  DSL providers with which I'm
> > unacquainted?  Cheap fractional T-1?
> 
> I have a friend in Dublin who used satelite.  DirectPC I think.  It's
> the only way that far in the "sticks".

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Re: High-speed connectivity in NH (was http://www.whizwireless.com/ )

2002-06-04 Thread Kurth Bemis

At 05:12 PM 6/4/2002 -0400, Brian Chabot wrote:

uesd?  why did he switch?

~kurth

>On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Ken Ambrose wrote:
>
> > NH (Dublin, to be precise)
>
> > Alas, I've been unable to find any reasonably-priced high-speed solutions
> > for Dublin.  VITTS had offered service out there, but nobody is, now, that
> > I can tell.  So, suggestions?  Satellite?  DSL providers with which I'm
> > unacquainted?  Cheap fractional T-1?
>
>I have a friend in Dublin who used satelite.  DirectPC I think.  It's
>the only way that far in the "sticks".
>
>
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Re: High-speed connectivity in NH (was http://www.whizwireless.com/)

2002-06-04 Thread Rich Payne

On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Brian Chabot wrote:

> On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Ken Ambrose wrote:
> 
> > NH (Dublin, to be precise)
> 
> > Alas, I've been unable to find any reasonably-priced high-speed solutions
> > for Dublin.  VITTS had offered service out there, but nobody is, now, that
> > I can tell.  So, suggestions?  Satellite?  DSL providers with which I'm
> > unacquainted?  Cheap fractional T-1?
> 
> I have a friend in Dublin who used satelite.  DirectPC I think.  It's
> the only way that far in the "sticks".

I don't know specifically about Dublin, but I live just as much out in the 
sticks and use ISDN. It's more $ than standard dial-up, but if you use DOV 
it's much cheaper than a T1.

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Re: High-speed connectivity in NH (was http://www.whizwireless.com/)

2002-06-04 Thread Brian Chabot

On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Ken Ambrose wrote:

> NH (Dublin, to be precise)

> Alas, I've been unable to find any reasonably-priced high-speed solutions
> for Dublin.  VITTS had offered service out there, but nobody is, now, that
> I can tell.  So, suggestions?  Satellite?  DSL providers with which I'm
> unacquainted?  Cheap fractional T-1?

I have a friend in Dublin who used satelite.  DirectPC I think.  It's
the only way that far in the "sticks".


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Re: High-speed connectivity in NH (was http://www.whizwireless.com/)

2002-06-04 Thread Kenneth E. Lussier

On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 15:56, Ken Ambrose wrote:
> Hi, all.  Time to revisit a fairly common topic on here.  A friend of mine
> is moving back to NH (Dublin, to be precise) after a six-year absence.
> Six years ago, dialup was Where It's At.  This is less true, now...
> especially as she hopes to telecommute to Motorola in Austin.
> 
> Alas, I've been unable to find any reasonably-priced high-speed solutions
> for Dublin.  VITTS had offered service out there, but nobody is, now, that
> I can tell.  So, suggestions?  Satellite?  DSL providers with which I'm
> unacquainted?  Cheap fractional T-1?

Satellite is pretty much out of the question if she is planning on
telecommuting via SSH, IPSEC, or (yeeesh) PPTP. The latency just won't
allow it. Also, I have found that a few satellite providers are using
NAT and PAT at the central dish, so most VPN technologies won't work. 

You might want to look into frame relay from the telco, and have her get
her employerr to pay for it ;-)
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High-speed connectivity in NH (was http://www.whizwireless.com/ )

2002-06-04 Thread Ken Ambrose

Hi, all.  Time to revisit a fairly common topic on here.  A friend of mine
is moving back to NH (Dublin, to be precise) after a six-year absence.
Six years ago, dialup was Where It's At.  This is less true, now...
especially as she hopes to telecommute to Motorola in Austin.

Alas, I've been unable to find any reasonably-priced high-speed solutions
for Dublin.  VITTS had offered service out there, but nobody is, now, that
I can tell.  So, suggestions?  Satellite?  DSL providers with which I'm
unacquainted?  Cheap fractional T-1?

Thanks...

-Ken



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