Re: Message Boards

2002-06-06 Thread Karl Hergenrother

I first read it 50 years ago in 'One, Two, Infinity' by George Gamow, in his
discussion of entropy, physics stuff.  A good book if you haven't read it.

Karl
- Original Message -
From: Benjamin Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: Message Boards


 On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, at 3:30pm, Michael O'Donnell wrote:
  That's a pretty good description of the Internet, though, and it hasn't
  happened yet...
(I forget where I first heard that)

   Generally attributed as:

 Come to think of it, there are already a million monkeys on a million
  typewriters, and Usenet is NOTHING like Shakespeare.
   -- Blair Houghton

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Re: Message Boards

2002-06-05 Thread Bill Sconce

On Tue, 04 Jun 2002 10:53:02 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 In a message dated: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 09:27:59 EDT
 Bill Sconce said:
 
 (Is a message board at all like a wiki?)
 
 You know, this whole wiki thing is one of those areas that I just 
 don't get.  Bruce has shown us Twiki at a MELBA meeting, I've poked 
 around on our wiki that Bruce has set up, and a few others, and I 
 *still* don't get it.  


I'm sorry if my suggestion inadvertently added more heat than light.
The original poster was asking about tools which would fulfill a need
of his, a need which was not completely laid out for us.  (Wikis are
most valuable as collaborative-teamwork tools, if I understand
correctly.)

For what it's worth, *I* don't get message boards.  Several other
groups(*) I'm involved with have tried to set up message boards,
or message-board-like facilities, in the past few months;  the
ensuing dialogue in each case was suggestive of a solution in
search of a problem.

I'm not attacking message boards;  I just don't understand them.

-Bill

(*) International Aerobatic Club;  Nashua Area Radio Club;  Libranet
Users' Group;  Linux Weekly News;  varying efforts from March 2002
to the present.  Sometimes (e.g., Libranet) the effort seemed to spring
from a hacker's well-meaning desire to mess around with something fun;
once (IAC) evidence quickly appeared which implied that advertisers had
convinced club HQ to provide a platform for hawking commercial wares
to the membership.  (The latter was quickly pulled amid a firestorm
of protest, with considerable embarrassment to HQ.)


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Re: Message Boards

2002-06-05 Thread Rich C

- Original Message -
From: Bill Sconce [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: gnhlug [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 4:46 PM
Subject: Re: Message Boards


 For what it's worth, *I* don't get message boards.  Several other
 groups(*) I'm involved with have tried to set up message boards,
 or message-board-like facilities, in the past few months;  the
 ensuing dialogue in each case was suggestive of a solution in
 search of a problem.

 I'm not attacking message boards;  I just don't understand them.


Message boards are like news servers. The advantage of message boards is
that you can set one up on a server you don't have control of, such as a
shared hosting box. Most are written in PERL and all you need is the
ability to run CGI. The advantage of message boards over PUBLIC news
servers is they allow you to control who has access and who does NOT
have access. However, if you have a machine and can set up your own NNTP
server and moderate and control access to it, you probably have no need
for a message board.

The advantage of message boards over mailing lists is that YOU go to
THEM, they do not come to you. Thus, you read only what you want to
read, when you want to read it, and don't have to delete messages or
whole threads from your mailbox that you have no interest in. (I have
joined and dropped many mailing lists over the last few years for just
this reason. I also considered dropping THIS list once for that very
same reason.) :o)

There is nothing inherently wrong with message boards. Their only
downfall is who runs them. You can have some neat features, like todays
active topics, threads sorted in order of most recent post, private
messaging, and the ability to see who's on line, and you can prevent
users from using html tags or ubb script to link to stupid sig images
if you want.

Rich Cloutier
President, C*O
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Re: Message Boards

2002-06-05 Thread Bill Sconce

On Wed, 5 Jun 2002 12:49:29 -
Rich C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Message boards are like news servers. The advantage of message boards is
 that you can set one up on a server you don't have control of...


Ah ha.  (Perhaps the light dawns.)  Thank you, Rich, and I hope
at least one other list member gained illumination from your answer.

So, if I'm on the right track, Linux Weekly News (and /daily) is
a kind of message board - and a damned good, high-content one at
all times.  Slashdot is a message board - and a damned good one
some times.

(And a wiki, although a related animal, lives in a very different
problem space.)

One parameter would seem to be who does the managing and/or
moderation.  LWN, for instance, requires a LOT of staff time - it's
no exaggeration to call LWN an example of professional, on-line
journalism, with real reporting, editing, and production.

Density of worthwhile content would seem to depend on quality of
moderation, then, whether newsgroup, mailing list, or message
board(*).  Right?

(A wiki is by definition essentially unmoderated - it's designed
for a community whose members trust each other for quality.  Again,
the example is workgroup collaboration, I think.)

Thanks -

Bill

(*) This was the downfall of some of the examples I mentioned in
my earlier post.  It seems to be an always recurring, and always
unfulfilled, hope that some clever mechanical device will yield
high quality content without human effort.

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Re: Message Boards

2002-06-05 Thread Rich C

- Original Message -
From: Bill Sconce [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: gnhlug [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: Message Boards


 Density of worthwhile content would seem to depend on quality of
 moderation, then, whether newsgroup, mailing list, or message
 board(*).  Right?
[snip]

 (*) This was the downfall of some of the examples I mentioned in
 my earlier post.  It seems to be an always recurring, and always
 unfulfilled, hope that some clever mechanical device will yield
 high quality content without human effort.


Density of worthwhile content also depends on the quality of the
contributors. A good editor can get the works of Shakespeare much more
readily by editing the output of a Christopher Marlowe or a John Webster
than he can from 1000 chimpanzees. It is amazing how the required level
of moderation is inversely proportional to the IQ and maturity of the
contributors.

Rich Cloutier
President, C*O
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Re: Message Boards

2002-06-05 Thread Kevin D. Clark


Bill Sconce [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 (A wiki is by definition essentially unmoderated - it's designed
 for a community whose members trust each other for quality.  Again,
 the example is workgroup collaboration, I think.)

For example, http://www.wikipedia.com (a collaborative effort at
creating an encyclopedia) has had various problems with vandalism.

Regardless, the results so far are very impressive.  To me, this is
one of the neatest wiki's that I've ever seen.

Regards,

--kevin
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Re: Message Boards

2002-06-05 Thread jbd

I think it would be more accurate to say that a wiki is moderated by its 
community. (Instead of some subset of it community doing the moderating; all 
members are able to moderate a wiki.)

Also, I use TWiki (a wiki implementation) because content can't be erased - it 
can only be updated; all content is under revision control. Most message boards 
don't do this, and even a lot of wikis don't!

--Bruce


Quoting Bill Sconce [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 (A wiki is by definition essentially unmoderated - it's designed
 for a community whose members trust each other for quality.  Again,
 the example is workgroup collaboration, I think.)


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Re: Message Boards

2002-06-05 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, at 3:30pm, Michael O'Donnell wrote:
 That's a pretty good description of the Internet, though, and it hasn't
 happened yet...
   (I forget where I first heard that)

  Generally attributed as:

Come to think of it, there are already a million monkeys on a million
 typewriters, and Usenet is NOTHING like Shakespeare.
  -- Blair Houghton

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Re: Message Boards

2002-06-05 Thread pll


In a message dated: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 12:49:29 -
Rich C said:

The advantage of message boards over mailing lists is that YOU go to
THEM, they do not come to you.

Same goes for a news server.

I also considered dropping THIS list once for that very same reason.) :o)

Yeah, me too.  Oh wait, I *did* once :)

There is nothing inherently wrong with message boards. Their only
downfall is who runs them. You can have some neat features, like todays
active topics, threads sorted in order of most recent post, private
messaging, and the ability to see who's on line, and you can prevent
users from using html tags or ubb script to link to stupid sig images
if you want.

My view of message boards is that they're a poor man's news server 
with a slightly prettier interface. (the man is poor in 'root' 
ownership as you pointed out :)  
-- 

Seeya,
Paul

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   but I'm really actively waiting for all my problems to go away.

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Re: Timezone? - Re: Message Boards

2002-06-05 Thread Rich C

- Original Message -
From: Bill Sconce [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Rich C [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 7:40 PM
Subject: Timezone? - Re: Message Boards


 An unrelated thing you might like to know - your most recent
 answer came in here timestamped 09:43 this morning - four hours
 before I wrote the message which you're answering.  (It looks
 as though your system may be running on GMT - that is, with
 an offset of ...)

 As I write this it is 15:41 EDT;  the  line below is still
 almost three hours in the future.

Well my [windows] computer is set for the correct time (almost...it is
set on EST, not EDT. Not 3 or 4 hours off anyhow.)  The rest of the
servers through which my messages may have passed are out of my control
:o(

The SMTP server through which I send is in Marlborough, MA, (REON
Broadband) and the route to zmamail.zma.compaq.com doesn't leave
Massachusetts. I sent myself a test email using the same outgoing and
incoming servers I use for this list, and the times are correct to
within one minute of each other. So I guess I can safely say It ain't
me, man!

Rich Cloutier
President, C*O
SYSTEM SUPPORT SERVICES
www.sysupport.com



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Re: Timezone? - Re: Message Boards

2002-06-05 Thread Rich C

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From: Rich C [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: GNHLUG [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: Timezone? - Re: Message Boards

 The SMTP server through which I send is in Marlborough, MA, (REON
 Broadband) and the route to zmamail.zma.compaq.com doesn't leave
 Massachusetts.

Whoops, I missed something!

The mail server *zmamail01.zma.compaq.com* IS in Houston TX, and the
network is invisible (can't get a complete trace.) So I guess it COULD
be going anywhere.

Rich Cloutier
President, C*O
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Re: Timezone? - Re: Message Boards

2002-06-05 Thread Bayard Coolidge USG

Rich C [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 The mail server *zmamail01.zma.compaq.com* IS in Houston TX,
Wrong... 'zma' means our facility in Littleton, MA (which DOES
connect to Houston, of course).

 So I guess it COULD be going anywhere.

Right. Aforementioned node is a Microsoft Exchange Server, so, yeah,
um, er, ...

And, the usual disclaimer in my .sig definitely applies here. The
unification and resolution of the networks will be an ongoing effort,
I believe. I have no definitive information, however.

Bayard

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Re: Timezone? - Re: Message Boards

2002-06-05 Thread pll


In a message dated: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 16:19:25 EDT
Bayard Coolidge USG said:

The unification and resolution of the networks will be an ongoing effort,

Which will change direction every 2-3 years as the company is 
continually bought, sold, or given away ;)

-- 

Seeya,
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Re: Message Boards

2002-06-05 Thread Kevin D. Clark


Rich C [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 The advantage of message boards over mailing lists is that YOU go to
 THEM, they do not come to you.

I myself would prefer that the online forums that I participate in
come to me rather than the other way around.  I have a consistant and
powerful set of tools to manage this interaction too.

The fact that my email program is really a integrated mail+newsreading
program is handy too...

In fact, if gnhlug was something that I had to participate with using
a browser on some foreign website, I probably wouldn't participate --
I have to do this for too many other things already.

Just my opinion.

Regards,

--kevin
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Re: Message Boards

2002-06-04 Thread Kenneth E. Lussier

I've looked at a few of the different things that people suggested, and
so far, phpBB is certainly the best. It has all of the features that I
was looking for, plus a bunch of add-ons. 

As for the cross-site issues, I'm really not worried about it. For the
most part, this is an internal service, so it's only my users that I
have to worry about. But, that's a whole different story ;-)

C-Ya,
Kenny

On Mon, 2002-06-03 at 19:04, t wrote:
 
 phpbb (http://www.phpbb.org seems to be the site) sounds like it does everything you 
need.
 i noticed someone mentioned ubb (ultimate bulletin board or something similar to 
that). my friend used to run ubb off of a p166/64 megs of ram freebsd system, and 
found the thing got totally wrecked when about 8 or more users were on it. it wasnt 
really the bandwidth that posed the issue, the software was just horribly 
ineffecient. anyway, he switched it to phpBB and his problems instantly went away.
 one downfall, is ive seen a few CSS (not cascading style sheets; cross site 
scripting) problems with phpBB on bugtraq. there arent any known current problems, i 
dont think, but i wouldnt say its the most secure code in the world..
 that being said, i also feel CSS is a bit overrated ;). somehow the possibility of 
having your cookies from yourdomain.com sent to craxx0rsite.com just doesn't strike 
the panic button within me..
 
 anyway, concerning ubb, id hope such issues were fixed by now (this was almost a 
year ago), but id suggest giving ubb (if you choose it) a bit of a test load before 
putting it into production..
 
 hope this helps!
 
 -tom
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Re: Message Boards

2002-06-04 Thread Cole Tuininga

On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 07:52, Kenneth E. Lussier wrote:
 I've looked at a few of the different things that people suggested, and
 so far, phpBB is certainly the best. It has all of the features that I
 was looking for, plus a bunch of add-ons. 

I've heard of one called EvolutionBB.  This is not an endorsement - I
know nothing about it.  Just thought I'd throw another package name out
at you.  8)

-- 
Give a man a match, and you keep him warm for an evening.
Light him on fire, and he's warm for the rest of his life.

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Re: Message Boards

2002-06-04 Thread Bill Sconce

On 03 Jun 2002 10:13:34 -0400
Kenneth E. Lussier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi All,
 
 Does anyone out there have any experience with building/running message
 boards? I was asked to find something that was Like the Message Boards
 on AOL. This, of course, is difficult for me, since I don't use AOL.
 However, the basic things that I think I need are 1) Multiple views
 (threaded, topic/tree, etc.) 2) Ability to see new posts only 3) HTML
 support (so poeple can post in different colors (people are wierd)) and
 3) registration support. 


I, too (hi, Cole!), have vast areas in which I know nothing about;
message boards is one such.  But Kenneth's 1) 2) 3) suggest that, at
least in some environments, looking at wikis might be fruitful...

(Is a message board at all like a wiki?)

Bill

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Re: Message Boards

2002-06-04 Thread Michael O'Donnell


 Does anyone out there have any experience with building/running
 message boards?  I was asked to find something that was Like the
 Message Boards on AOL.  This, of course, is difficult for me,
 since I don't use AOL.  However, the basic things that I think
 I need are 1) Multiple views (threaded, topic/tree, etc.)  2)
 Ability to see new posts only 3) HTML support (so poeple can post
 in different colors (people are wierd)) and 3) registration support.


Wouldn't pretty much any of the available NNTP servers
satisfy those requirements?  And FYI some of the
specified features (and misfeatures) are normally
managed by the client rather than the server.


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Re: Message Boards

2002-06-04 Thread pll


In a message dated: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 09:27:59 EDT
Bill Sconce said:

(Is a message board at all like a wiki?)

You know, this whole wiki thing is one of those areas that I just 
don't get.  Bruce has shown us Twiki at a MELBA meeting, I've poked 
around on our wiki that Bruce has set up, and a few others, and I 
*still* don't get it.  

What is it that people find so useful about these things?  I find 
them more confusing and irritating than anything, and I'm sure it's 
because I just don't understand how they're *supposed* to be used.

To me, FAQ-O-Matic is far more useful; it's hierarchical, it's quite 
structured, and can be used to disseminate information in a very 
straightforward and logical manner.  I don't see that with wikis.

And no, FAQ-O-Matic is not just restricted to FAQs or QA form, you 
can use it however you wish.

Can someone please explain to me what I'm missing about wikis?
I'd really like to understand it, especially if I can use it to my 
advantage :)

Thanks!
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Re: Message Boards

2002-06-04 Thread Kevin D. Clark


[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael O'Donnell) writes:

 Wouldn't pretty much any of the available NNTP servers
 satisfy those requirements?  And FYI some of the
 specified features (and misfeatures) are normally
 managed by the client rather than the server.

Source: http://news.com.com/2100-1023-237194.html?legacy=cnet

  Newsgroups are unruly and message boards are easier to convert into a
  business, said Anya Sacharow, an analyst at Jupiter
  Communications. 

sigh I hope Usenet never goes away.  I would much prefer to use a
NNTP server rather than a web-based message board (usually, I find
these to be gaudy and feature-lacking).

--kevin
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Re: Message Boards

2002-06-04 Thread pll


In a message dated: 04 Jun 2002 11:15:45 EDT
Kenneth E. Lussier said:

On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 09:52, Michael O'Donnell wrote:
 
 Wouldn't pretty much any of the available NNTP servers
 satisfy those requirements?  And FYI some of the
 specified features (and misfeatures) are normally
 managed by the client rather than the server.

The intent of the two is pretty much the same: some sort of discussion
forum. However, the method of delivering is different. Message boards
are usually web-based, have a lot of useless features, and everything is
stored on the server side. NNTP is like e-mail. It works, get's the job
done, and the bells and whistles are dependant on the client. 

I don't entirely agree with all of that.  NNTP stores everything on 
the server, and therefore you can archive it all there.  Most clients 
connect to the server, but don't necessarilly download everything.  

I'm currently using GNUS for my news client, and connecting to 2 
different servers, one *happens* to be my local system, but that's 
because my system *is* the NNTP server (leafnode).  The other server 
is some remote corporate server in Belgium, and there isn't one news 
message that I have located on my system from that server.  I connect 
to the server, suck down headers of the groups I'm interested in, and 
read the messages off of that server.  The only thing I maintain 
locally is a news file which lists which articles in which groups 
I've already marked as read so I don't need to grab those again.

Really, the big difference between NNTP and message boards is that 
NNTP is for those who understand that ascii text is the best way to 
communicate and message boards are for those who think eye-candy 
matters :)
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Paul



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Re: Message Boards

2002-06-04 Thread Michael O'Donnell



 Wouldn't pretty much any of the available NNTP servers
 satisfy those requirements?  And FYI some of the
 specified features (and misfeatures) are normally
 managed by the client rather than the server.

Source: http://news.com.com/2100-1023-237194.html?legacy=cnet

 Newsgroups are unruly and message boards are easier to
  convert into a business, said Anya Sacharow, an analyst
  at Jupiter Communications.


Well, I read that article and my question stands.  An NNTP
server in concert with most any standards-compliant client
I've ever seen can provide all the called-for capabilities.


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Message Boards

2002-06-03 Thread Kenneth E. Lussier

Hi All,

Does anyone out there have any experience with building/running message
boards? I was asked to find something that was Like the Message Boards
on AOL. This, of course, is difficult for me, since I don't use AOL.
However, the basic things that I think I need are 1) Multiple views
(threaded, topic/tree, etc.) 2) Ability to see new posts only 3) HTML
support (so poeple can post in different colors (people are wierd)) and
3) registration support. 

The closest thing that I have found is Zorum
(http://www.zorum.com/portal/forumfeatures.html). Is there anything in
particular that other people are using? Oh, and of course, it has to run
from a Linux server running Apache.

TIA,
Kenny
-- 

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Kenneth E. Lussier
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Zuken, USA
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Re: Message Boards

2002-06-03 Thread pll


In a message dated: 03 Jun 2002 10:13:34 EDT
Kenneth E. Lussier said:

Hi All,

Does anyone out there have any experience with building/running message
boards? I was asked to find something that was Like the Message Boards
on AOL. This, of course, is difficult for me, since I don't use AOL.
However, the basic things that I think I need are 1) Multiple views
(threaded, topic/tree, etc.) 2) Ability to see new posts only 3) HTML
support (so poeple can post in different colors (people are wierd)) and
3) registration support. 

Tell them HTML is evil and not to use it, then show them that news 
server you've secretly been hiding in the corner :)

news does threading, you can set up kill-folders, do all sorts of 
neat things with it, and it's easily archivable.  Much better than 
message boards IMO :)

But that's me, and I'm weird, I *like* using a philips head 
screwdriver on philips head screw instead of the far more prevalent 
5lb. sledge hammer :)
-- 

Seeya,
Paul

It may look like I'm just sitting here doing nothing,
   but I'm really actively waiting for all my problems to go away.

 If you're not having fun, you're not doing it right!



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Re: Message Boards

2002-06-03 Thread Kurth Bemis

At 10:13 AM 6/3/2002 -0400, Kenneth E. Lussier wrote:

we really like phroum...

check out our installation at usaexpress.net/fourms..

and phorum at phorum.org

~kurth

Hi All,

Does anyone out there have any experience with building/running message
boards? I was asked to find something that was Like the Message Boards
on AOL. This, of course, is difficult for me, since I don't use AOL.
However, the basic things that I think I need are 1) Multiple views
(threaded, topic/tree, etc.) 2) Ability to see new posts only 3) HTML
support (so poeple can post in different colors (people are wierd)) and
3) registration support.

The closest thing that I have found is Zorum
(http://www.zorum.com/portal/forumfeatures.html). Is there anything in
particular that other people are using? Oh, and of course, it has to run
from a Linux server running Apache.

TIA,
Kenny
--

Tact is just *not* saying true stuff -- Cordelia Chase

Kenneth E. Lussier
Sr. Systems Administrator
Zuken, USA
PGP KeyID CB254DD0
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xCB254DD0



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Re: Message Boards

2002-06-03 Thread Thomas Charron

Quoting Kenneth E. Lussier [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Does anyone out there have any experience with building/running
 message
 boards? I was asked to find something that was Like the Message
 Boards
 on AOL. This, of course, is difficult for me, since I don't use AOL.
 However, the basic things that I think I need are 1) Multiple views
 (threaded, topic/tree, etc.) 2) Ability to see new posts only 3) HTML
 support (so poeple can post in different colors (people are wierd))
 and
 3) registration support. 

  After looking at several a while back, I decided on 
http://www.mawic.de/mwforum/ for several reasons.  One reason being perl vs 
PHP (don't ask.  Personal preference, nothing beyond that), the ability to 
easily create a new external authentication module, many language modules, and 
what I at least got the impression of, a much more open development community.

--
Thomas Charron
-={ Is beadarrach an ni an onair }=-

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Re: Message Boards

2002-06-03 Thread Richard Soule

Also check out phpbb at www.phpbb.com which is open source. :)

Rich

Kenneth E. Lussier wrote:
 
 Hi All,
 
 Does anyone out there have any experience with building/running message
 boards? I was asked to find something that was Like the Message Boards
 on AOL. This, of course, is difficult for me, since I don't use AOL.
 However, the basic things that I think I need are 1) Multiple views
 (threaded, topic/tree, etc.) 2) Ability to see new posts only 3) HTML
 support (so poeple can post in different colors (people are wierd)) and
 3) registration support.
 
 The closest thing that I have found is Zorum
 (http://www.zorum.com/portal/forumfeatures.html). Is there anything in
 particular that other people are using? Oh, and of course, it has to run
 from a Linux server running Apache.
 
 TIA,
 Kenny
 --
 
 Tact is just *not* saying true stuff -- Cordelia Chase
 
 Kenneth E. Lussier
 Sr. Systems Administrator
 Zuken, USA
 PGP KeyID CB254DD0
 http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xCB254DD0
 
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this is one of the funniest message boards I've ever seen

2001-01-22 Thread Derek Doucette

http://www.linuxnewbie.org/ubb/Forum22/HTML/004795.html

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