Re: Anybody running 2.4 and AMD???
- Original Message - From: Michael Costolo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: GNHLUG [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 9:43 PM Subject: Re: Anybody running 2.4 and AMD??? Hmm. I'm running a 1 GHz Athlon with kernel version 2.4.3 (a la Mandrake 8.0) and a 32 MB NVidia TNT2 AGP video card (and XFree 4.0.3 if it matters) on an ABIT KT7A-RAID mobo with 512 MB RAM. I have not experienced any random lockups. I know nothing about the stock Mandrake kernel and haven't tried rolling my own yet (but I will, once I learn more about the process). You don't need to recompile to avoid the bug. From the article: Fortunately, there is a quick and easy fix for this problem. If you have been experiencing lockups on your Athlon, Duron or Athlon MP system when using AGP video, try passing the mem=nopentium option to your kernel (using GRUB or LILO) at boot-time. This tells Linux to go back to using 4K pages, avoiding this CPU bug. Are these lockups truly random? The article doesn't go into too much detail. If you've read the article, you know as much as I do, except here is another link to AMD's site, http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_871,00.html then click on the Microsoft Windows 2000 patch for AGP applications. AMD describes it as a Windows 2000 problem, but in reality it is a problem which affects any OS that uses the extended paging feature of Pentium class and later processors. AMD claims that the patch is not needed for Windows XP, but since AMD and Microsoft have both known about this bug since September of 2000, I'm willing to bet that bug-detecting code is already present in XP. As for why some with the deadly combination don't see lockups (and my post was merely to inform, not to make people defensive about their systems) I can only speculate that because the bug has to do with shared memory for AGP applications, it may only manifest itself on graphics-intensive programs, like 3d modelling or games. Since there aren't too many killer 3d games for Linux yet, my guess is that not many people will actually see the bug in normal use. Rich Cloutier President, C*O SYSTEM SUPPORT SERVICES www.sysupport.com * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Anybody running 2.4 and AMD???
On Tue, 22 Jan 2002, Rich C wrote: = =- Original Message - =From: Michael Costolo [EMAIL PROTECTED] =To: GNHLUG [EMAIL PROTECTED] =Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 9:43 PM =Subject: Re: Anybody running 2.4 and AMD??? = = = Hmm. I'm running a 1 GHz Athlon with kernel version 2.4.3 (a la Mandrake = 8.0) and a 32 MB NVidia TNT2 AGP video card (and XFree 4.0.3 if it =matters) = on an ABIT KT7A-RAID mobo with 512 MB RAM. I have not experienced any =random = lockups. I know nothing about the stock Mandrake kernel and haven't tried = rolling my own yet (but I will, once I learn more about the process). = = =You don't need to recompile to avoid the bug. From the article: = =Fortunately, there is a quick and easy fix for this problem. If you have =been experiencing lockups on your Athlon, Duron or Athlon MP system when =using AGP video, try passing the mem=nopentium option to your kernel (using =GRUB or LILO) at boot-time. This tells Linux to go back to using 4K pages, =avoiding this CPU bug. OK. I'm confused here. Is it that case that in certain circumstances the linux kernel will try to make a pagesize equal to 4 MEGABYTES and this patch restores it back down to 4 KILOBYTES? Everything I know about OS's says that something is badly out of whack. (I'm about to take delivery of a ULB with 1 gig of RAM and a pair of 1600MHz Athlons.) -- -Time flies like the wind. Fruit flies like a banana. Stranger things have - -happened but none stranger than this. Does your driver's license say Organ -Donor?Black holes are where God divided by zero. Listen to me! We are all- -individuals! What if this weren't a hypothetical question? [EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Anybody running 2.4 and AMD???
* On 2002-01-21 at 17:14, Rich C [EMAIL PROTECTED] excited the electrons to say: And experiencing random lockups? No, I'm just having them with 2.4.2 on a ThinkPad T21. I thought it was because of the S3 video chipset, and adding an 'Option ShadowStatus' to XF86Config had fixed it, but n -- it hung just a few minutes ago. :-( Still looking for the answer; maybe a newer kernel.. :-) -- #kenP-)} Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Golux.Com/coar/ Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/ Millenium hand and shrimp! * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Anybody running 2.4 and AMD???
* On 2002-01-21 at 17:27,
Rodent of Unusual Size [EMAIL PROTECTED] excited the electrons to say:
No, I'm just having them with 2.4.2 on a ThinkPad T21.
I thought it was because of the S3 video chipset, and
adding an 'Option ShadowStatus' to XF86Config had fixed
it, but n -- it hung just a few minutes ago. :-(
Still looking for the answer; maybe a newer kernel.. :-)
On looking at the note where I found the ShadowStatus solution,
I see that I should have added it to XF86Config-4, not
plain old XF86Config.. {sigh} Added now, let's see if this
sucker stays up.
--
#kenP-)}
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Re: Anybody running 2.4 and AMD???
Hmm. I'm running a 1 GHz Athlon with kernel version 2.4.3 (a la Mandrake 8.0) and a 32 MB NVidia TNT2 AGP video card (and XFree 4.0.3 if it matters) on an ABIT KT7A-RAID mobo with 512 MB RAM. I have not experienced any random lockups. I know nothing about the stock Mandrake kernel and haven't tried rolling my own yet (but I will, once I learn more about the process). Are these lockups truly random? The article doesn't go into too much detail. -Mike- On Monday 21 January 2002 05:12 pm, Rich C wrote: And experiencing random lockups? This article might be of some help... http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2002-01-21-001-20-NW-KN Rich Cloutier President, C*O SYSTEM SUPPORT SERVICES www.sysupport.com -- Michael A. Costolo History teaches that grave threats to liberty often come in times of urgency, when constitutional rights seem too extravagant to endure. - Justice Thurgood Marshall, 1989 _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Anybody running 2.4 and AMD???
I have an AMD Athalon chip in my desktop system. I've had it up for two weeks with no problems, and the only reason I rebooted was to upgrade from 2.4.10 to 2.4.16 because I needed the USB support. Rich C wrote: And experiencing random lockups? This article might be of some help... http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2002-01-21-001-20-NW-KN Rich Cloutier President, C*O SYSTEM SUPPORT SERVICES www.sysupport.com * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. * -- Jerry Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Boston Linux and Unix user group http://www.blu.org PGP key id:C5061EA9 PGP Key fingerprint:053C 73EC 3AC1 5C44 3E14 9245 FB00 3ED5 C506 1EA9 * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
