Re: OT: Forum legalish question
So he called this other lawyer and put down a $500 retainer. Clearly this is only for letter writting. don't count on it. Well my sister-in-law is a paralegal, and she said the lawfirm is of the fly-by-night kind. The general thought now is that he had to do this, because the district lawyer knew he couldn't win any case against, well, basically a bunch of people bitching about the local government. No. I suspect the issue is rather whether the issues raise a district matter or whether it is a personal issue. The district's lawyer would not involve himself in a personal matter. Considering the board voted for the funds to do this it is a district issue and not a personal one. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: LinuxWorld Early Bird Discounts Extended to 10 March
Ted Roche wrote: If you are thinking of volunteering to staff the booth (and you're ALL thinking of that, right?). make sure to get an Expo pass in advance so that you don't have to pay to get in. Expo passes at the door are $50, but free if you register in advance. http://www.linuxworldexpo.com/live/12/events/12BOS06A So how does one register to staff the booth? I did it last year and loved it. I'd like to do it again. Brian ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: LinuxWorld Early Bird Discounts Extended to 10 March
On Monday 06 March 2006 10:29 am, Brian Chabot wrote: Ted Roche wrote: If you are thinking of volunteering to staff the booth (and you're ALL thinking of that, right?). make sure to get an Expo pass in advance so that you don't have to pay to get in. Expo passes at the door are $50, but free if you register in advance. http://www.linuxworldexpo.com/live/12/events/12BOS06A So how does one register to staff the booth? I did it last year and loved it. I'd like to do it again. I am curious is GNHLUG is going to have a booth this year. I signed a contract for the BLU, but the lady at IDG had not heard from Maddog, who I knew was out of town at the time. -- Jerry Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Boston Linux and Unix user group http://www.blu.org PGP key id:C5061EA9 PGP Key fingerprint:053C 73EC 3AC1 5C44 3E14 9245 FB00 3ED5 C506 1EA9 ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
What the heck is a dbus?
On a new installation of Centos 4.2 (a RHEL clone from source) I'm
seeing the following error in the messages file:
Mar 3 15:55:06 hanka dbus: Can't send to audit system: USER_AVC
pid=2521 uid=81 loginuid=-1 message=avc: denied { send_msg } for
scontext=root:system_r:unconfined_t tcontext=user_u:system_r:initrc_t
tclass=dbus
I've never heard of a dbus. So first of all, what's a dbus, and
secondly, what does this error mean?
Thanks for any insights that you can share!
Dan
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Re: What the heck is a dbus?
On Mon, Mar 06, 2006 at 10:52:19AM -0500, Dan Coutu wrote:
On a new installation of Centos 4.2 (a RHEL clone from source) I'm
seeing the following error in the messages file:
Mar 3 15:55:06 hanka dbus: Can't send to audit system: USER_AVC
pid=2521 uid=81 loginuid=-1 message=avc: denied { send_msg } for
scontext=root:system_r:unconfined_t tcontext=user_u:system_r:initrc_t
tclass=dbus
I've never heard of a dbus. So first of all, what's a dbus, and
secondly, what does this error mean?
dbus is a messaging bus that allows processes on the desktop communicate
between each other. It is used in a lot of the new GNOME programs for
interprocess communication: for a while, Beagle (the desktop search
engine) used DBUS to pass messages between various parts of the program.
As a server-only Linux user, I unfortunately can't help you with why its
happening. Sorry 'bout that.
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Re: What the heck is a dbus?
On Mon, Mar 06, 2006 at 10:52:19AM -0500, Dan Coutu wrote:
On a new installation of Centos 4.2 (a RHEL clone from source) I'm
seeing the following error in the messages file:
Mar 3 15:55:06 hanka dbus: Can't send to audit system: USER_AVC
pid=2521 uid=81 loginuid=-1 message=avc: denied { send_msg } for
scontext=root:system_r:unconfined_t tcontext=user_u:system_r:initrc_t
tclass=dbus
I've never heard of a dbus. So first of all, what's a dbus, and
secondly, what does this error mean?
IIRC dbus is used to send messages from the hald to user space.
Translated that means that dbus is a new messaging system used by the
new hardware abstraction layer daemon (hald) which were both
implemented as party of a new effort to make hardware devices like USB
better able to do plug and play on Linux.
As for #2, it looks like, (and you probably already figured this much
out yourself), dbus isn't able to deliver a message to the audit
subsystem (whatever that is :-) )
This could be a timing issue, as in the audit service isn't up yet, but
dbus doesn't know that and is sending to it anyway?
(Just a WAG)
I'm not seeing it on my Centos 4.2 install. (Toshiba satellite laptop)
FWIW some part of these tools use some gnome libraries.. (iirc)
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Re: What the heck is a dbus?
On Mon, Mar 06, 2006 at 10:52:19AM -0500, Dan Coutu wrote:
On a new installation of Centos 4.2 (a RHEL clone from source) I'm
seeing the following error in the messages file:
Mar 3 15:55:06 hanka dbus: Can't send to audit system: USER_AVC
pid=2521 uid=81 loginuid=-1 message=avc: denied { send_msg } for
scontext=root:system_r:unconfined_t tcontext=user_u:system_r:initrc_t
tclass=dbus
I've never heard of a dbus. So first of all, what's a dbus, and
Here's a good intro article:
http://www.redhat.com/magazine/003jan05/features/dbus/
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Re: LinuxWorld Early Bird Discounts Extended to 10 March
On Mar 6, 2006, at 10:51 AM, Jerry Feldman wrote: I am curious is GNHLUG is going to have a booth this year. I signed a contract for the BLU, but the lady at IDG had not heard from Maddog, who I knew was out of town at the time. And David Berube had been in touch with them from our group, and they insisted they had not heard from BLU. Sounds like a case of the right hand not knowing what the left hand is doing. Hope we both get booths! ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: LinuxWorld Early Bird Discounts Extended to 10 March
On Mar 6, 2006, at 10:29 AM, Brian Chabot wrote: So how does one register to staff the booth? You just did! someone with a minute of spare time ought to post a wiki page where we can sign up... I did it last year and loved it. I'd like to do it again. Me, too! Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: What the heck is a dbus?
On Mon, Mar 06, 2006 at 10:51:25AM -0500, Jeff Kinz wrote: IIRC dbus is used to send messages from the hald to user space. Translated that means that dbus is a new messaging system used by the new hardware abstraction layer daemon (hald) which were both implemented as party of a new effort to make hardware devices like USB better able to do plug and play on Linux. I don't like how I left this. I think it miss-presents the history/purpose of D-BUS to be a sub-part of project Utopia. I don't believe that D-Bus was a part of Utopia, just something that project took advantage of. Project Utopia may go a long way to solving the usability issues currently preventing Linux from being used by some Aunt Tilly's. The name is pretty ambitious: this article by Robert Love explains what's going on: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7745 -- Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. speech recognition software may have been used to create this e-mail ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: What the heck is a dbus?
Dan Coutu wrote:
On a new installation of Centos 4.2 (a RHEL clone from source) I'm
seeing the following error in the messages file:
Mar 3 15:55:06 hanka dbus: Can't send to audit system: USER_AVC
pid=2521 uid=81 loginuid=-1 message=avc: denied { send_msg } for
scontext=root:system_r:unconfined_t tcontext=user_u:system_r:initrc_t
tclass=dbus
I've never heard of a dbus. So first of all, what's a dbus, and
secondly, what does this error mean?
Thanks for any insights that you can share!
As others have mentioned already, dbus is related to the hald, and I
believe the two were first introduced with the 2.6 kernel.
I haven't seen a reply about your error message yet. That error is
coming from SElinux, and probably means you need to adjust an access
list somewhere. If you can figure out what service the error is coming
from, you can try running system-config-securitylevel to adjust the
rules for that service.
For example, if the error is coming from apache, the easiest workaround
is to allow the httpd daemon to run unrestricted.
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Re: LinuxWorld Early Bird Discounts Extended to 10 March
On Monday 06 March 2006 11:21 am, Ted Roche wrote: On Mar 6, 2006, at 10:51 AM, Jerry Feldman wrote: I am curious is GNHLUG is going to have a booth this year. I signed a contract for the BLU, but the lady at IDG had not heard from Maddog, who I knew was out of town at the time. And David Berube had been in touch with them from our group, and they insisted they had not heard from BLU. Sounds like a case of the right hand not knowing what the left hand is doing. I spoke to Jessica Camerato and I had faxed her the contact a week or so ago. -- Jerry Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Boston Linux and Unix user group http://www.blu.org PGP key id:C5061EA9 PGP Key fingerprint:053C 73EC 3AC1 5C44 3E14 9245 FB00 3ED5 C506 1EA9 ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: OT: Forum legalish question
On Saturday 04 March 2006 22:05, Michael ODonnell wrote: Even if you are completely blameless and all of your actions have been so completely inside all legal and practical limits that nobody bringing suit against you could possibly prevail, the mere act of filing suit against you causes you real, measurable harm. It will cost you some combination of time, money, reputation and even the oft ridiculed (but nevertheless *entirely* real) emotional distress. Every grownup should be prepared to accept *some* amount of that sort of crap, but a countersuit (or even a detailed description of the redress such a countersuit would seek) can sometimes serve to jar your opponents out of a melodramatic tantrum and remind them that their actions have consequences... As one who actually sued some idiots for making outlandish false allegations against me, I must say that the results of the suit were bittersweet. On the one hand, I took action to address the great harm their false allegations did against me and my family. On the other hand, I was less than satisfied with the outcome. While I did win the suit, it was no where near to addressing the damage done. And for certain reasons I won't mention here I was fairly confident that a counter-suit would not take place. But just doing the suit itself was very stressful on my behalf, even though I was the plaintiff. The defendants did not back down on their bald face lies, and watching them tell them again and again both during the depositions and during mediation was -- well, to put it euphemistically, annoying. These days I am spending a bit of time learning enough about the law where I can conduct -- and also defend myself, if necessary -- lawsuits pro se. Will cut my own legal costs dramatically, and will give me greater control over the outcomes. Of course, that is all traded for time I'll have to spend doing the legal research myself. You just can't win. But in the crazy society we currently live in, one must be prepared. And hopefully the idiots out there will learn a lesson about minding their own business. If they must feel so compelled to make false allegations then I will feel equally compelled to sue them. As in the website case, make sure that everything you present there is factual. That way, if they DO sue you, all of those facts will be brought up in court and it will be egg on their face. It becomes public record, the news media may get involved, and it can become a real fun circus. I would even call their bluff -- after having all the ducks lined up in a row, documented, and nailed down solid. But being sued will be no fun, mark my words. Be sure to set up a means to protect you assets via insurance or some other means. Your homeowner's insurance may protect you against a suit -- but check your policy, of course. Just make sure all your bases are covered and you'll be fine. And get a good *reputable* lawyer to have on retainer, not some fly-by-night op. -Fred ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: OT: Forum legalish question
On 3/3/06, Travis Roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I was using the uncopywritten logo on my site. *Everything* is covered by copyright (except works by the US *Federal* government). This email I am writing right now is copyright by me, and I don't have to say so to reserve my rights. You don't need to register or do *anything* to get copyright. So you can't just copy stuff (not legally, anyway). You don't have to like this, but you do have to accept it (at least until/unless you can get the law changed). PS, the unoffical site admin said he has permissions to use the logo from a previous board. I'm sure you've heard the old saw about verbal agreements and the paper they're written on. A bit of advice: The legal world can be quite harsh, especially to those who are ignorant of it. I am ignorant of the legal world, but I know that much, at least. Contrary to popular opinion, there is no requirement that the law be fair or make sense. Don't assume that just because you're in the right that you can get away with it. Also: Be aware that everything you've ever posted in an online forum (including this one) can be used against you. -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
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While Ben's observations were on the money, I would disagree with one point: You don't have to like this, but you do have to accept it (at least until/unless you can get the law changed). Of course you don't have to accept it! Breaking the law is a time-honored way of changing the law in the US. There obviously could be penalties. But if it weren't for brave people breaking the law, we might well still have slavery, be still fighting in Viet Nam, and/or I wouldn't be able to finish up this beer. Regards, . Randy -- Fast fact: More than 22 percent of American children live in poverty. Five European countries have child poverty rates lower than 5%, 11 European countries lower than 11%; Sweden's child poverty rate is less than 3%. Source: UNICEF http://www.eldis.org/static/DOC7799.htm ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: OT: Forum legalish question
On 3/6/06, Randy Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You don't have to like this, but you do have to accept it (at least until/unless you can get the law changed). Of course you don't have to accept it! Breaking the law ... I didn't mean that you one has to follow the law (the only thing one *has* to do is die), just that you have to accept it as being the current state of affairs. Reality, and all that. Since you bring it up: I also feel that law-breaking is a poor first choice for effecting change, and that a thief is still a thief, even if he steals from another thief. -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
