Re: [OT] Experience with getting participation in school web site by teachers

2009-06-07 Thread Martin Ledoux
I think Bill is right (especially with his experience with the product).

Moodle is probably the best choice given the academic context - wordpress
and plone are great general CMSs, but Moodle has all of the educational
custom features that you would have to make on your own.  My understanding
is that its the open-source version of BlackBoard

Also, O'Reilly has a book about Moodle.  Eveytime I hit the
computer/programming section of Barnes and Noble in Newington/Portsmouth,
there's been a copy on the shelf for at least a year - not a hot book,
unless you have that very niche neednot sure if you can sample the book
online, so its probably still there if you want to peruse it.

Good luck

-Martin Ledoux

Dan - any relation to Hannah JenkinsI recall her mentioning an Uncle
Dan, or something like thatafter all, Dan and Jenkins are really
uncommon names! ;-)





On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Bill Sconce sco...@in-spec-inc.com wrote:


  Moodle...

  It does many of those things.
  (Of course, it also does real education stuff, course content management,
  class forums, etc.  :)

 -Bill
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Re: [OT] Experience with getting participation in school web site by teachers

2009-06-05 Thread Bill Sconce

 Moodle...

 It does many of those things.
 (Of course, it also does real education stuff, course content management,
 class forums, etc.  :)

-Bill
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Re: [OT] Experience with getting participation in school web site by teachers

2009-06-05 Thread Greg Rundlett
See also:

http://www.open1to1.org/index.php/Main_Page
https://eduforge.org/
http://www.os4ed.com/index.php

I have a strong interest in applying free technology in the education
arena.  It's not just a technology problem but a multi-faceted issue.  I
believe one of the many challenges is to ensure that whatever solution is
put in place, that it actually meets the needs of the constituents in a
way that supports their knowledge and work habits.  Put simply, this means
that systems need to work with email and office application formats.  Or,
that the solution is so well designed that usability is very high.

~ Greg

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Bill Sconce sco...@in-spec-inc.com wrote:


  Moodle...

  It does many of those things.
  (Of course, it also does real education stuff, course content management,
  class forums, etc.  :)

 -Bill
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Re: [OT] Experience with getting participation in school web site by teachers

2009-06-01 Thread Raymond Cote
Dan Jenkins wrote:
 I am looking for tools to make it easy for them to update content 
 (broadly defining content) and provide an overarching structure to make 
 it easy-to-find.
   
Definitely some sort of content management system is the way to go for 
them.

Allows a designer to set up a basic 'looks good' set of pages and then 
they can spend the time filling in content vs. trying to make each 
individual page look good.

There's lots out there to chose from (I see WordPress has already been 
mentioned).
Recommend you look at the security history of whatever you decide to pick.

Our CMS of choice right now is Plone.
Although it tends to be a bit difficult to get set up and configured, it 
is fairly easy for end users to work with. We've deployed close to a 
dozen Plone sites so far and they've been well received.

A few Plone features that may be of interest to you:
- good security
- heavy focus on web standards
- meets Section 508 compliance for accessibility (important for a school 
accepting federal funds)
- supports microsite concept: e.g., each school would have it's own 
site, with a different theme, with security permissions based within 
that site (or, at a high school, you might set up a microsite for each 
department and even various clubs).
- through-the-web image editor for easily resizing images.
- nice WYSIWYG editor
- automatic navigation builder (i.e., create new page and it shows up in 
navigation).
- built-in full-text search.
- ability to do full text search in uploaded files (.doc, .pdf, etc.)
- plus, all the usual features you think of in a CMS.

Like I said, there's lots of options out there. Plone happens to be 
where we've landed after using a number of other options.

Hope this helps.
--Ray

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[OT] Experience with getting participation in school web site by teachers

2009-05-31 Thread Dan Jenkins
This is totally off-topic (except that we use Linux for all of the 
server infrastructure there), but I figured some of you may have some 
insight on this issue.

We have an elementary school as a client. They want to have a more 
dynamic web site with teachers / classrooms having more up-to-date web 
presence. Web presence defined as any of web page(s), blogs, wiki, etc. 
Each classroom sub-site could be different. They just want to have 
something which teachers would update with minimal effort for those who 
won't/can't expend more effort. As most places, there are a few zealous 
ones, a bulk of if-it's-not-too-much-trouble (or, to be honest, 
I-don't-have-enough-time-as-it-is) ones and a few no-way-no-how ones.

They do not have a clear idea of what they want to present, nor to whom. 
(I know that ought to be the first thing, but they simply don't know 
yet.) This is brain-storming phase.

They tried a website some years ago, with each classroom having a web 
page, but it bogged down. They were using various web editors (Publisher 
mostly), and most people got tied up in the effort of creating web pages 
that looked good to them, versus content that was useful to others.

I am not looking for ways to inspire them (though I will be happy to 
listen to any).

I am looking for tools to make it easy for them to update content 
(broadly defining content) and provide an overarching structure to make 
it easy-to-find.

They have four Linux servers (Mandriva), with the usual LAMP. We are 
planning on overhaul of their Linux servers this summer to address 
performance (on their email server/web filter) and storage issues (they 
are doing much more video editing and space has gotten tight). This 
summer would be a good time to put any new infrastructure for this in place.

Does anyone have any suggestions?
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Re: [OT] Experience with getting participation in school web site by teachers

2009-05-31 Thread Peter Dobratz
I setup WordPress for a personal blog and for two non-profit
organizations that I'm involved with.  It's designed to work with the
LAMP stack.  In fact, in one case, we ended up switching web hosts
(IIS/Windows/ColdFusion server to Linux/Apache/PHP) just to make it
easier to get WordPress setup.

In any case, I think WordPress would be an excellent fit for your
requirements.  The pages are all editable using a rich text editor in
a modern web browser (like recent versions of Firefox).  For your
case, I think the effort would be minimal enough for each teacher to
edit their static pages and blog posts.  Uploading pictures with
thumbnails is very easy.  You can also upload a bunch of themes to
your server and then each teacher could pick a theme and even fairly
easily switch themes while preserving the underlying content.  One of
the neat things is that a change history is kept for the pages/posts
so you can easily see what changed.

--Peter

If your curious, here's the sites that I've had a hand in creating or
maintaining over the last 6 months or so:

http://www.dobratz.us/blog - baby pictures.  This was my first foray
into WordPress and it was created with a 2-week-old at home and under
the duress of receiving many emails from relatives near and far
complaining about not having enough baby pictures.  The wordpress
instructions claimed that it takes 15 minutes to install.  It took me
30 minutes (file permissions needed modifying, PHP file upload limit
needed and increase).
http://www.litchfieldchurch.org/ - this is a new URL for my church and
new website.  It replaced the old website which was handcrafted using
static HTML pages with updates every 3 months or so.
http://www.nashabitat.org/ - replaced an existing handcrafted site
with ColdFusion.  Updates ot the site were spotty, and sometimes would
take 6 months.  One tricky thing here was a web form, but we found a
WordPress plugin to handle this:
http://www.deliciousdays.com/cforms-plugin


On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Dan Jenkins d...@rastech.com wrote:
 This is totally off-topic (except that we use Linux for all of the
 server infrastructure there), but I figured some of you may have some
 insight on this issue.

 We have an elementary school as a client. They want to have a more
 dynamic web site with teachers / classrooms having more up-to-date web
 presence. Web presence defined as any of web page(s), blogs, wiki, etc.
 Each classroom sub-site could be different. They just want to have
 something which teachers would update with minimal effort for those who
 won't/can't expend more effort. As most places, there are a few zealous
 ones, a bulk of if-it's-not-too-much-trouble (or, to be honest,
 I-don't-have-enough-time-as-it-is) ones and a few no-way-no-how ones.

 They do not have a clear idea of what they want to present, nor to whom.
 (I know that ought to be the first thing, but they simply don't know
 yet.) This is brain-storming phase.

 They tried a website some years ago, with each classroom having a web
 page, but it bogged down. They were using various web editors (Publisher
 mostly), and most people got tied up in the effort of creating web pages
 that looked good to them, versus content that was useful to others.

 I am not looking for ways to inspire them (though I will be happy to
 listen to any).

 I am looking for tools to make it easy for them to update content
 (broadly defining content) and provide an overarching structure to make
 it easy-to-find.

 They have four Linux servers (Mandriva), with the usual LAMP. We are
 planning on overhaul of their Linux servers this summer to address
 performance (on their email server/web filter) and storage issues (they
 are doing much more video editing and space has gotten tight). This
 summer would be a good time to put any new infrastructure for this in place.

 Does anyone have any suggestions?
 --
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 *** IT support excellence for thirty years

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