Re: CSS Question
For those that may have interest, the solution I found seems to work in most browsers, including the venerable Netscape 4.7x. I got the solution from: http://theodorakis.net/tablecentertest.html -- So, make a real effort to avoid getting sucked into all the expensive lifestyle habits of typical Americans. Because if you do that, then people with the money will dictate what you do with your life. -- Richard Stallman Cole Tuininga Lead Developer Code Energy, Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key ID: 0x43E5755D ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: CSS Question
On Friday, September 19, 2003, at 10:04 AM, Cole Tuininga wrote: I would have imagined that with css (using inline style sheet defs), I would simply do this: div style=text-align: center table . . /table /div This works just ducky in Netscape 4.7x, but not my current version of mozilla. Does anybody know what I need to do instead? I don't want to static position the table, I would like it to be centered. This problem has plagued me, I have solved it, and then I have forgotten how I solved it and had it plague me again. I am pretty sure that the workaround* is to use div style=margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; table ... . . . /table /div But YMMV since I can't remember for sure. text-align only applies to text. Erik * I find it ironic that workarounds in CSS are sometimes necessary, since one of the reasons people sometimes use CSS is to avoid misusing tables for composing a design in HTML, which was itself a workaround for the limitations of HTML. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, anyone have any really good links for learning CSS? (Coles ref to w3schools already noted :) This one might be too basic/introductory for you, but it's very well-written and can at least cement the knowledge that you already -do- have. I found it very useful when first learning CSS: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Guide/Style.html HTH, Erik ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: CSS Question
On 12 Jun 2003 10:00:16 -0400 Greg Rundlett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2003-06-11 at 17:40, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, what I'm interested in, is using CSS to replace tables for alignment. Sitepoint is hawking a book on the subject, and will let you download the first four chapters. http://www.sitepoint.com/ Of course their site is done with minimal use of tables. As another practical example, the tikiwiki.sourceforge.net website was just done over using CSS rather than tables. After reading the first 4 chapters of Building Your Own... I bought the book. I found it very useful. -- Jerry Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Boston Linux and Unix user group http://www.blu.org PGP key id:C5061EA9 PGP Key fingerprint:053C 73EC 3AC1 5C44 3E14 9245 FB00 3ED5 C506 1EA9 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: CSS Question
Cole Tuininga [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The best firewall is a pair of wire cutters. -Unknown, from the net For some reason, this reminded me of the following snippet, which is from Chuck Shepherd most excellent News of The Weird: : ** Police in Albany, Ore., were looking this week for an extremely : incompetent warehouse burglar. All they know is that they found : singed bolt cutters and burned clothing beside a live, 440-volt wire, : along with part of a human scalp. Albany Democrat-Herald : http://www.democratherald.com/articles/2003/06/02/news/local/news02.txt The mind boggles. (and the scalp singes...) --kevin -- Kevin D. Clark / Cetacean Networks / Portsmouth, N.H. (USA) cetaceannetworks.com!kclark (GnuPG ID: B280F24E) alumni.unh.edu!kdc ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: CSS Question
On Wed, 2003-06-11 at 17:40, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, what I'm interested in, is using CSS to replace tables for alignment. Sitepoint is hawking a book on the subject, and will let you download the first four chapters. http://www.sitepoint.com/ Of course their site is done with minimal use of tables. As another practical example, the tikiwiki.sourceforge.net website was just done over using CSS rather than tables. -- FREePHILE We are 'Open' for Business Free and Open Source Software http://www.freephile.com (978) 270-2425 ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
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Greg Rundlett wrote: Sitepoint is hawking a book on the subject, and will let you download the first four chapters. http://www.sitepoint.com/ Of course their site is done with minimal use of tables. I was extremely impressed with the sitepoint.com website makeover, it looks incredible but like you said, makes almost zero abuses of the table tag. I somehow overlooked this book the last time I was at their site. As another person who is interested in learning how to use CSS to overcome table tag addiction, I will check it out. Erik ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
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Doh - figured it out. I wanted the float attribute. Thanks for listening to me waste bandwidth. *sheepish grin* -- The best firewall is a pair of wire cutters. -Unknown, from the net Cole Tuininga Lead Developer Code Energy, Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key ID: 0x43E5755D ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: CSS Question
Cole Tuininga wrote: As I understand, the correct way to do it now would be with style sheets. However, I can't seem to figure out the attribute to use. The closest I could find was text-align, but that seems to only work on text (which does make sense). I've been using www.w3schools.com (a very handy reference) to pick up xhtml and css, but I couldn't find anything about this in there. Anybody have any hints, pointers, etc? The CSS2 spec lets you get really detailed about exactly where you want stuff to go -- but most browsers don't have full support for it yet. But it sounds like you've discovered float does the job. If you ever want to center-align an image, one recommended way is to set its margin-left and margin-right properties to auto. This is a clip from the CSS on my personal site (which has a centered image): div.glamour img { border-color: #FFF; border-width: thin; } div.glamour p { width: 35em; text-align: center; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; } I'm centering the entire div whose class is glamour but you can equally apply this to an img tag. Erik ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: CSS Question
In a message dated: 11 Jun 2003 15:44:34 EDT Cole Tuininga said: I apologize if this is off topic. [...snip...] I don't think it is, since I'm attempting to finally learn the correct way of doing things with xhtml and css. A) me too B) I'm using Linux, and this is a linux list ;) Actually, what I'm interested in, is using CSS to replace tables for alignment. I should probably get me a book on CSS, but, well, I'm lazy! So, anyone have any really good links for learning CSS? (Coles ref to w3schools already noted :) Thanks, -- Seeya, Paul -- Key fingerprint = 1660 FECC 5D21 D286 F853 E808 BB07 9239 53F1 28EE It may look like I'm just sitting here doing nothing, but I'm really actively waiting for all my problems to go away. If you're not having fun, you're not doing it right! ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss