Re: DoS attacks on Healthcare.gov...
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Joshua Judson Rosen roz...@geekspace.comwrote: cf. these fine articles: http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=222 http://slashdot.org/story/05/11/21/1140210/open-source-media-vs-open-source-media-inc I didn't follow the links, and then 'lo and behold, WBUR radio just announced that the Open Source radio show with Christopher Lydon http://www.radioopensource.org/ was back on air starting in January in Boston. Dang it! It's NOT Open Source tm Greg Rundlett https://www.facebook.com/eQualityTechnology ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: DoS attacks on Healthcare.gov...
I'm sure some would not be displeased to see the term open source get Embraced And Extended and turned into a pejorative the way hacker was... ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
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MOD I'm sure some would not be displeased to see the term open source get Embraced And Extended and turned into a pejorative the way hacker was... the Intelligence community has had sources longer than the computation community has, and they distinguish open vs covert/secret. The terminological collision is inevitable. (overt action might be more linguistically appropriate, if that's what they mean, but bureaucrats aren't known for that.) Combining our meaning and theirs in the Open Source Media movement is confusing, since they mean *both* meanings at once, but that's alas natural evolution. Evidence may be appearing of SQL injection attacks, the linkned un-confirmed image shows SQL in suggested searches on Healthcare.gov https://twitter.com/alexhern/status/402365655250644992/photo/1 which suggests (as noted by https://twitter.com/Green_Footballs/status/402606184277868544) that those attacks are most popular queries ... which would seem to confirm a sig % of traffic is adversarial. -- Bill @n1vux bill.n1...@gmail.com ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: DoS attacks on Healthcare.gov...
There's a malware kit in the wild specifically to ddos the healthcare.govwebsite: http://www.examiner.com/article/right-wing-cyber-attacks-on-healthcare-gov-website-confirmed -- mark On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Bill Ricker bill.n1...@gmail.com wrote: MOD I'm sure some would not be displeased to see the term open source get Embraced And Extended and turned into a pejorative the way hacker was... the Intelligence community has had sources longer than the computation community has, and they distinguish open vs covert/secret. The terminological collision is inevitable. (overt action might be more linguistically appropriate, if that's what they mean, but bureaucrats aren't known for that.) Combining our meaning and theirs in the Open Source Media movement is confusing, since they mean *both* meanings at once, but that's alas natural evolution. Evidence may be appearing of SQL injection attacks, the linkned un-confirmed image shows SQL in suggested searches on Healthcare.gov https://twitter.com/alexhern/status/402365655250644992/photo/1 which suggests (as noted by https://twitter.com/Green_Footballs/status/402606184277868544) that those attacks are most popular queries ... which would seem to confirm a sig % of traffic is adversarial. -- Bill @n1vux bill.n1...@gmail.com ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
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Tyson Sawyer ty...@j3.org writes: What is the open source action that she refers to and can be found in the description of the segment? Is the meaning of open source being changed by some groups? She might be garbling a little. In the intelligence community, open source means we didn't have Mata Hari anything, we found it from websites, books, newspapers, etc. Open sources. So she could be trying to say: We know from open sources that at least one group is trying to DoS us meaning something like There is a group out there with the stated, public mission to try to DoS us or A recent newspaper investigation found a hacking group that blah blah blah etc. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
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Thanks! ...I was hoping it was something like that. Ty On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 12:39 PM, David Rysdam da...@rysdam.org wrote: Tyson Sawyer ty...@j3.org writes: What is the open source action that she refers to and can be found in the description of the segment? Is the meaning of open source being changed by some groups? She might be garbling a little. In the intelligence community, open source means we didn't have Mata Hari anything, we found it from websites, books, newspapers, etc. Open sources. So she could be trying to say: We know from open sources that at least one group is trying to DoS us meaning something like There is a group out there with the stated, public mission to try to DoS us or A recent newspaper investigation found a hacking group that blah blah blah etc. -- Tyson D Sawyer A strong conviction that something must be done is the parent of many bad measures. - Daniel Webster ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
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On 11/18/2013 12:39 PM, David Rysdam wrote: Tyson Sawyer ty...@j3.org writes: What is the open source action that she refers to and can be found in the description of the segment? Is the meaning of open source being changed by some groups? She might be garbling a little. In the intelligence community, open source means we didn't have Mata Hari anything, we found it from websites, books, newspapers, etc. Open sources. So she could be trying to say: We know from open sources that at least one group is trying to DoS us meaning something like There is a group out there with the stated, public mission to try to DoS us or A recent newspaper investigation found a hacking group that blah blah blah etc. Yeah, that's my take. Though it wouldn't surprise me if there was (D)DoS software that's GPL-licensed. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
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David is correct, open sources has been a concept in the intel community in contrast to covert sources, classified sources for longer than we've had computers. It originally meant reading the foreign newspapers. Among its magical properties of openly-sourced intel is that we don't have to hide that/how we know this (anymore). -- Bill @n1vux bill.n1...@gmail.com ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
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On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 01:30:46PM -0500, Mark Komarinski wrote: Though it wouldn't surprise me if there was (D)DoS software that's GPL-licensed. http://sourceforge.net/projects/loic/ Fun! -b -- the strength of the arbitrary decision is that it can be absolute. phillip j. eby ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
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On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Bill Ricker bill.n1...@gmail.com wrote: David is correct, open sources has been a concept in the intel community ...but open sources means something very different to me than (an) open source action. I can see how I interpret it from a different context. -- Tyson D Sawyer A strong conviction that something must be done is the parent of many bad measures. - Daniel Webster ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
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David Rysdam da...@rysdam.org writes: Tyson Sawyer ty...@j3.org writes: What is the open source action that she refers to and can be found in the description of the segment? Is the meaning of open source being changed by some groups? She might be garbling a little. In the intelligence community, open source means we didn't have Mata Hari anything, we found it from websites, books, newspapers, etc. Open sources. cf. these fine articles: http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=222 http://slashdot.org/story/05/11/21/1140210/open-source-media-vs-open-source-media-inc -- 'tis an ill wind that blows no minds. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
