[Goanet] On Postings on Goanet.
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- It seems to me that Postings favourable to, or supporting George Bush and Tony Blair are given Carte Blanche on this site. Any one refuting this propaganda, by posting contra articles, has had their post lost in cyber space or rejected. Deja Vu! Democracy ! What democracy, it is an act of desperation, now in Iraq. They are freeing insurgents...don't take my word for it, check out the news. Soon it will be bring back Sadam all is forgiven. If there are any Goans working in Iraq via Kuwait, I'd strongly advise you to get out pronto. All the money in the World is not worth it. -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Investing/Trading section on GOANET?
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- Mervyn, -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Re: Goan Association uk from Conception to Ruby
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- Cornel, Hence I put 2 2 together and the name Agnes cropped up. RESPONSE: Now if ever there was any doubt about Mario's assertions about addition and the conclusion arriving at 4, the above was a good rebuttal indeed: 2 2 = Agnes Cheers Richard -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Re: Further to the Da Vinci Code (Re evangelisation)
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- On 22/06/06, Vidyadhar Gadgil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Elisabeth Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet] Further to the Da Vinci Code (Re evangelisation) The Pope is talking about conversions that take place in India voluntarily. MV Kamath, writes this in his letter: The Pope owes an apology to Hindus and to India on bended knees. M.V. Kamath is a well-known ideologue and apologist for the Sangh Parivar, and need not be taken seriously. Or maybe one could say that K.S. Sudarshan owes an apology to Christians and the Vatican on bended knees :-) RESPONSE: The post was forwarded from a communist news source! Please, this kind of confusion is dangerous. What Hindu religious authorities? Since when did the Bajrang Dal and the BJP and their brethren acquire the status of religious authorities? We must always be careful to distinguish between Hinduism (the religion) and Hindutva (the political ideology). The dangers of such confusion are clear, to make an analogy, what if people the world over start blaming Christians in general and 'Christian religious authorities' for the imperialist agenda of George Bush, which is clearly motivated by his skewed interpretation of Christian fundamentalist doctrine? -- Question everything -- Karl Marx RESPONSE: Believe it or not! I and many others who oppose George Bush's and Tony Blair's doctrine, are many times tarred with the same brush...but we soldier on. You are on the ball, about being mindful, of being absolutely correct about our perceptions. We have to be clear, whom we point the finger at! These right wing fundamentalists, of whatever creed or beliefs, are an ill wind that blows nobody any good. -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Re: Dubai Terrorism/response to Mario
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- On 18/06/06, Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mario responds: ... You keep repeating left-wing propaganda ad nauseum and ignoring all the actual facts. You cite world opinion which Bush cares little about in his support for democracy, while you support about 20,000 murderous anti-freedom insurgents while callously ignoring the democratic desires of 25 million Iraqis... RESPONSE: Let us cut out the balderdash; get up to speed with the latest, okay? This is the reality of the ill conceived intervention, from the horses mouth, so to speak : The ugly truth about everyday life in Baghdad (by the US ambassador) http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article1090904.ece -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Will the political scene change with NRIs being given voting rights?
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- On 20/06/06, Frederick Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please see this poll on The Navhind Times http://www.navhindtimes.com/mainpage.php Visitors' Parliament Will political scene change with NRIs being given voting rights? Yes No Can't Say 55% are currently (Tuesday, 1 pm) saying yes! FN -- RESPONSE: What is the basis of this Poll? The NRIs will constitute just a very small percentage of the Voters! -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] ENGLISH TO DENY OFFICIAL STATUS TO KONKANI ROMI LIPI?
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- On 19/06/06, godfrey gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is shocking to learn from the Honorable Minister for Education, Mr Luizinho Faleiro M.Com, LL.B that the reason for introducing English at the primary level from this academic year 2006-2007 is owing to the fact that there was a 40% rate of drop outs at the Primary school level as the students studying in Konkani (in Devanagari script the official language NOT Roman script) and Marathi were unable to come to terms with English at the V Standard onwards. RESPONSE: It is good that you are exposing the Hon MLA. Could you please confirm that the Hon MLA is a certified holder of M.Com and LLB by examination, or has he been bestowed the titles as an honorary? -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] For NRIs, investing in India akin to bungee jumping
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- On 19/06/06, Frederick Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For NRIs, investing in India akin to bungee jumping (SPECIAL) By Kul Bhushan For NRIs, investing in the Indian market is akin to bungee jumping - considering what has happened over the past few weeks. An adventure sport, bungee jumping involves jumping from a high platform with one end of an elastic cord attached to the ankles. When the person jumps, the cord will stretch to take up the energy of the fall - and the jumper will spar upwards as the cord snaps back. The jumper oscillates up and down until the energy of the jump is exhausted. Comment: Known as a dead cat bounce! I'd say buyer beware (Caveat emptor) - Sure you could make a load of money if the trend is really up - better to be safe than sorry. Wait for the market to show itself! -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] The Dangers of certain topics (relating to Churches)
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- On 19/06/06, Elisabeth Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear fellow posters, I don't mean to be Chicken Little here, but in a moment I will seem to be. I haven't followed the discussion about Catholic Churches being built atop Hindu temples in its entirety, just in bits and pieces. While I certainly don't want to advise anyone on what to discuss, I think in the political climate that we live in today. Christians have to show some responsibility in the assertions that they make. RESPONSE: Now that was indeed an nice responsible post; while not wanting to hide our past, it certainly does not behove us, to publicly wear sack cloth and ashes and parade around Margao Bazaar, extolling sins committed and apologizing for the past. This has already been done many, many times before and we acknowledge it. Let us now move forward ! -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Goa's other Films Fest fruit Gene Bank
On 19/06/06, Valmiki Faleiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Goa's other Films Fest fruit Gene Bank By Valmiki Faleiro .. I had this aunt, T.Olinda, dad's unmarried sister. Green fingers, she raised her own seedlings, made her own grafts. She used the bone of a particular deer's antler to make the inverted-triangle incision in the mother tree and anthill soil to 'bandage' her surgery - for success, she said. She counted with pride at least 22 fruit varieties at any given time in the family yard … pink Grape Fruit (Pomelo), half a dozen types of Lime, both varieties of Chikoo and its cousin Adama (AdanvFoll in Konkani). A weakness for citrus and sapota! Then there were mango and mulberry, cashew and coffee … the list is long, but of course, coconut, of which she had one from Seychelles and another that bore nuts 15 inches in diameter. All seeded or grafted with her own hands. While building a new house, the trees were rampaged by an army of labourers camped in the backyard. House now almost complete, I turned to the backyard. I must restore at least 22 varieties. Comment: Yes and when it is completed, please give us advance notice, so that we may be able to attend the House Warming Party! -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] World Cup snipets.
Portugal Vs Iran... Luis Figo gets kicked in the face, opponent does not get booked. Portuguese assistants come to Figo's aid, pour water over him - he is really thirsty - alas the bottle is empty. Their fore bearers who came and took Goa, would turn in their graves, the present people did not carry enough provisions! Goans would call them Bhamtulos / ( Sp ) -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Bank of India offers 9 % to seniors!
BoI offers 9% interest to senior citizens PTI | June 16, 2006 | 15:01 IST Bank of India has launched a new long-term deposit�plan -- Shatabdi Scheme -- as part of its centenary year celeberations, offering an interest of 8 per cent per year. The scheme will, however, offer 9 per cent interest to senior citizens for up to 10 years,�M Balachandran, the bank's chairman, said in Thiruvananthapuram on Friday. Balachandran said that as part of the centenary year initiatives, the bank will launch many more deposit schemes, like flexi-recurring deposit scheme, flexi-annuity pension deposit scheme, and salary saving scheme this month. The bank plans to adopt and develop 101 villages in the country. In Kerala, Marottichal village (in Thrissur district) �and Mannur (in Ernakulam disctirct) will be adopted. ATM Kisan Card and mobile ATM for villages will also be launched soon. The bank also plans to open a branch in Qatar and upgrade the busines in China, Vitenam and Indonesia, he said. The bank's Kerala zone registered a net profit of Rs 701.44 crore (Rs 7.014 billion) up to March 2006 compared to Rs 340.05 crore (Rs 3.4 billion) for the corresponding period of the previous year. Do you want to discuss stock tips? Do you know a hot one? Join the Stock Market Investments Discussion Group URL for this article: http://www.rediff.com//money/2006/jun/16scheme.htm -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Goan Association uk from Conception to Ruby
On 15/06/06, cornel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Melvyn My apologies. I meant to say Manor House, not Manor Park. I also knew the .. And just by way of interest, does anyone know the whereabouts of Joey (sax) and his charming lady singer? I can't recall her name this moment. Regards Cornel RESPONSE: Obviously, you didn't read my post in its entirety http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/2006-June/043605.html The Singer was Agnes Delgado..who then went on to marry Joey! I met Bosco guitarist in the band ( Night Fever) some years ago in Toronto; Bosco plays in more than one band there! He informed me that Joey and his Wife went off to L.A. and that Joey was discoing, not sure what Agnes is doing, Obladi, Oblada...singer in a band ? I don't think so. -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Theist v/s atheist?
On 12/06/06, Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mario replies: Then take a steel cube and multiply the length by the breadth by the height to get the volume. Then using the water displacement method see if this comes out any different. RESPONSE: Surely to arrive at your conclusion it would have to be the inner base x height? Boil water the same way wherever you are again and again and see if the boiling temperature changes. Water does not boil at the same temperature wherever you are!! Mario needs Thursday classroom! http://www.thursdaysclassroom.com/13jul00/boil.html -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Re: Whoa! World Cup.
On 13/06/06, Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I am glad we got that out of the way, Brazil didn't impress? Argentina, Germany, Italy, Czech Republic and definitely England are still in the game. It was rather remiss of me to forget Mervyn Lobo, who offered to underwrite this and buy any unsold tickets. Mervyn is a generous soul and my thanks to his generosity and willingness to come forward! -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Sweep stakes; the draw!
Okay here is the draw: 1 Gabe Menezes: Tunisia 2 Lily Menezes.: Costa Rica 3 George Pinto: Australia 4 Mervyn Lobo: Serbia 5 Bosco (Goanet) : Angola 6 Aurelius Figueredo: Saudi Arabia 7 Tony Barros: Croatia 8 Maureen Rodrigues: Ecuador 9 Dr. Jose Colaco: Germany 10 Ronnie Delgado: Argentina 11 Milan Kojnok: Switzerland 12 Alice Ferens: USA 13 Lydia Pinto: Iran 14 Kim Gilbert: Ghana 15 Harriet Ferens: Spain 16 Shawna Ashwell: Ukraine 17 Loyella Coutts: England 18 Reena Fuentes: Japan 19 Moneesha Pinto: Czech Rep 20 Vinita Zakher: Mexico 21 Fred Noronha Courtesy Dr Eric Pinto: Trinidad 22 Cecil Pinto ditto: Sweden 23 Mrs. Fred Noronha dittto: Poland 24 Valmiki Faleiro ditto: Holland 25 Miss ( Fred ) Noronha ditto: Ivory Coast 26 Giles Menezes: France 27 Glen Menezes: Togo. 28 Eddie Fernandes: Paraguay 29 Eugene Correia: Portugal 30 Gulf Goans www.goa-world.com: Brazil 31 Gulf Goans www.goa-world.com: Italy 32 Gulf Goans www.goa-world.com: Korea. Good luck everybody and please send in the cheques, Muito Obrigado...since the talk it that a Portuguese speaking team will win! We shall see. **US $$** and make payable to GOA SUDHAROP and mail to: GOA SUDHAROP, 67 KINGSTON ROAD, KENSIGNTON, CALIFORNIA, 94707, USA. -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Goan Association U.K., Ruby Anniversary. (1)
On 12/06/06, cornel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gabe and Mervyn Re Rita Faria, I am not a tall guy but had no trouble enjoying a pleasant dance with Rita at a Goan social close to the War Museum in London when she became Miss World. She was also pleasantly conversational and among other things, we talked about her thoughts about continuing medical training in the UK. RESPONSE: I Googled and found that Reita Faria stood 5' 7-1/2'' . with heels this could easily be 5' 9'' .Cornel you brave man! I haven't seen you for ages but are you taller than Ben? -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] 'Go to Goa and get healthy
http://www.thisisbradford.co.uk/misc/print.php?artid=791094 'Go to Goa and get healthy Everything from a bargain tummy tuck to cut-price heart surgery is being offered in a bid to tempt health tourists to India. Patients aiming to dodge waiting lists and get cheaper private operations can head to Goa - thanks to a deal between a Bradford business and a hospital in the Indian Ocean resort. Going to Goa is offering all-inclusive' packages including flights, luxury lodgings and surgery. Director Jan Bostock said clients stood to save thousands of pounds on procedures ranging from a hair transplant to a heart bypass operation. He said: We set this business up because we felt people were being short-changed. I had dental work recently and couldn't believe the high cost. There can be queues for surgery. Our service shows that these procedures should not cost the earth. Shipley-based Mr Bostock said a private heart bypass operation costing more than £15,000 in the UK could be had for £5,000 at the partner Victor Apollo Hospital. Flights and accommodation cost about an extra £1,000 for a three-week stay. He said: We are facilitators. We do not give medical advice, but our service helps people get all the facts before they decide to go ahead. Mr Bostock said clients are able to speak to the surgeon by phone or communicate by e-mail before going ahead. The company is also aiming to set up video-conferencing. He said: The doctors' credentials are available for the client and in turn the medical notes for the patient are sent to the team in Goa. We make sure we get all the questions answered and all the checks possible in place right from the start. We have to make sure our clients are 100 per cent confident about the procedure. The hospital is comparable with a British hospital, if not better. Standards of hygiene are incredibly high. There has not been a single record of MRSA. The company's brochure promises first class medical facilities and first class after care treatment as well as a home counselling service. But Telegraph Argus columnist Dr Tom Smith warned potential patients to demand facts before committing to a procedure. He said: There are so many questions. Is the blood transfusion system safe? Does it screen for things like hepatitis? What are the safeguards against deep vein thrombosis? How good is the nursing care? Is there evidence of MRSA? I would want to know a great deal about the surgeons. In the UK you can find out a surgeon's success rate in his previous 1,000 operations. How are the post-operative morbidity rates? People must always be careful to weigh up the risks and the benefits of going abroad for health care. A spokesman for Bradford and Airedale PCTs said people choosing private treatment in India did so at their own risk as there is no guarantee of the standard of care. He said: We would strongly recommend that anyone considering this first takes advice from their GP or other health professional. The need for this service is also debatable as NHS waiting lists continue to fall and patients are getting faster treatment than ever before for many conditions. And anyone who was regarded as an urgent case would be treated even sooner, free of charge. e-mail: jonathan.walton @bradford.newsquest.co.uk A PATIENT'S STORY: 'SPLENDID JOB' George Marshall travelled to Bangalore in India for a double heart bypass operation in 2005. He said he had no regrets about having his operation abroad. The violin repairer, pictured, 74, had felt time was running out as he waited for NHS treatment. He said: I'm definitely glad I did it. They did a splendid job and I speak very highly of the staff and the hospital. I'm not sure how happy my GP was about it, but he did say paying for these things wasn't easy. Mr Marshall, of Ilkley, spent £4,800, including flights and medical fees on his treatment. It was a saving of £14,000 on the potential bill for a private operation in this country. 5:05pm today By Jonathan Walton -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Goan Association U.K., Ruby Anniversary. (1)
On 12/06/06, cornel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gabe and Mervyn .. If I get the time, I will fill in some gaps re the formation of the Goan Association in the UK. My earliest meeting in this cause was at a Catholic hostel in Manor Park, London, in around mid 1962 or early 1963. I am sure I have a list somewhere of those who attended this meeting. There was already the East African Catholic Society (or Association) in existence and this gave way to the Goan Association later on. I am sure I have some records in my garage of this early stage of development. How quickly Ruby has come along! Cornel The East African Catholic Society of which, the late Camilo D'Souza and the late Amorito Nazareth, were post holders continued into existence even after the Goan Association was formed. In fact The East African Catholic Society had later donated the alarm system which was fitted at the GOA Club House in Beckenham Kent. I remember attending a couple of dances which took place at a small hall in Oxford Street near Tottenham Court Road! -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Goan Association U.K., Ruby Anniversary. (1) Addendum
I forgot a very important happening in the History of the Association. In 1977 the Committee accepted an invitation from the Goan Association Canada (Toronto) to visit them for a sports and cultural exchange. I had all the Funds that were collected, changed at money market interbank rate, with no commission, for the Association! The Canadain Goans were very generous in their entertainment and the hospitality that they showered upon us. We had also made a coach trip to Ottawa and onwards to Montreal. The Montreal Goans also treated us very well. I remember their welcome evening reception and the Biryani which was really mouth watering! Our Hockey side alas did not do that well and the Goan Association Canada were champions! -- Gabe. -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Goan Association U.K., Ruby Anniversary. (1)
. This item promptly vanished, despite there being no break in! Such was the turmoil we were finding ourselves in. There was a phone at the Club House and many used it to make long distance calls to friends and relations all over the World! Needless to say the phone was then cut off. I shall not venture further into the quagmire that the Association had headed into. All I shall add is to state that there were a few reprobates. I left Office, from the Association totally disillusioned. My sons have no interest in the Association, having learnt from my experience. I wonder how many young Goan professionals have been advised to stay away from the Association because of my own and other's experience ? DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Goa says 'Go Brazil'
http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?NewsID=1034529 Goa says 'Go Brazil!' Pushpa Iyengar Friday, June 09, 2006 22:45 IST world cup fifa 2006 PANAJI: Goa is known to support Portugal and Brazil, but World Cup has the region craning its neck toward Brazil. Peter Vaz, soccer patron and owner of Sporting Clube De Goa, says that because of the past and present, soccer fans identify themselves with Portugal and Brazil. Goa was a former Portuguese colony and its clubs have several Brazilian players. One fan in Saligao, North Goa, Geronimo D'Costa told DNA, I think most Portugal supporters are fence sitters, their hearts are with Brazil. Bondo, one of Goa's well known musicians, says, I've loved this beautiful game ever since I was a kid. Now I cannot wait for the kick-off. Bondo has lived in Brazil, and it's little wonder that he says, My heart is with Brazil, there is little doubt about that. -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England Go England, go. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Speculators eyeing World Cup in Gujarat? You bet!
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/msid-1629030,prtpage-1.cms AHMEDABAD: You can't blame them for not knowing when Brazil has its first outing at the FIFA World Cup in Germany. The Sensex slide is exercising their minds much more than the sliding tackles which opponents are planning against Ronaldinho and Co. But don't be mistaken by this ignorance about the frenzy in Frankfurt. For, wherever there is money to be made, there is a Gujarati speculator. In fact, an army of them who can't wait to test the bookie's odds. Everyone knows Brazil are the favourites. Big deal! The knack is in picking the dark horses which yields more money than the thin margins that betting on a Brazilian win offers as returns. Bookies in Gujarat are busy these days taking bets from those would like to give cricket a respite. They have networked themselves with syndicates which have a worldwide cartel extending from the small town of Unjha to Ahmedabad, Mumbai to London. Bets are being taken on who would win the finals and which team would head their respective groups. .. -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Goan lifestyle vulnerable to AIDS, says Governor
http://www.navhindtimes.com/stories.php?part=newsStory_ID=060943 Goan lifestyle vulnerable to AIDS, says Governor NT Staff Reporter Panaji, June 8: The Governor, Mr S C Jamir today observed that Goa, by way of its lifestyle, is vulnerable to HIV/AIDS, and the large number of tourists as well as influx of labourers possibly carrying infections with them may further compound the situation. Speaking at a special ceremony held at the Raj Bhavan to launch Red Ribbon Clubs for HIV/AIDS awareness in younger age group, the Governor stated that the leadership should take responsibility for controlling the HIV/AIDS menace and must not restrict its activities to asking for votes. Speaking further, the Governor said the state has to follow directives, policies and initiatives of the central government on fight against HIV/AIDS. Goa is a very favourite tourist destination as well as provider of jobs to countless labourers who, while arriving in the state, may bring in many diseases along with their tools, Mr Jamir observed, adding Therefore, with due respect to Goan community, Goa has become vulnerable to HIV/AIDS due to the prevailing lifestyle of its people. In such a lifestyle, the very purpose of life is lost, he observed. The Governor suggested that Goans should find out what type of lifestyle can help them encounter the onslaught of HIV/AIDS. Making some suggestions on combating the disease, Mr Jamir recommended adoption of the Chinese programme of 'Four Frees and One Care' namely, offering free anti-retroviral drugs, free voluntary counselling and testing, free drugs to prevent mother-to-child transmission and free schooling for orphaned children, and finally care and economic assistance to affected households. In India, 90 per cent of the infected persons are in the productive age group of 15-49 years out of which 32 per cent are young men and women in the age group of 15-29 years, and hence we have to emphasise on younger generation of the society, he informed. Presently, India stands only second to South Africa in terms of AIDS infection to its population. The formation of Red Ribbon Clubs would be a positive beginning in the fight against AIDS, he said. The Red Ribbon Clubs, whose modalities are yet to be worked out, are aimed at spreading awareness on HIV/AIDS in 46 higher educational institutions in the state, covering around 20,000 students, this year. The RRCs programme is a comprehensive promotional and preventive intervention to mainstream HIV/AIDS prevention, mitigation, stigma reduction, care and treatment among the youth in colleges and other higher educational institutes. It also envisages to prepare and promote peer group educators within and outside the campuses. A presentation by the deputy director (blood safety) of the Goa State AIDS Control Society, Dr S P Prabhudesai on latest HIV/AIDS scenario in the state informed that the estimated number of people living with HIV/AIDS in Goa is around 12,000; the reported number of the cases being 772 and the deaths by way of the disease mounting to 217. The disease is now prevalent in all parts of Goa, majority of the cases being reported in the four coastal talukas, that is Salcete, Mormugao, Bardez and Tiswadi, it informed. The presentation also stated that 86 per cent of the total 149 cases detected in the year 2005 belonged to the age group 15-49 years and about 38 per cent of these cases were females. Furthermore, about 25 per cent of the new infections were in the age group 15-29 years, it informed, pointing out that among the females infected, almost one-third belonged to the age group 15-49. The sexual route is the predominant mode of transmission (92.5 per cent), followed by mother-to-child infection (6.3 per cent), infection through infected syringes/needles (0.7 per cent) and by way of blood and blood products (0.5 per cent), the presentation mentioned. The health secretary, Mr U K Vhora in his speech said that most of the youngsters are vulnerable to HIV/AIDS and that's the basic philosophy behind forming the RRCs. The clubs will convert the potential AIDS victims into effective soldiers, he said, adding that the peer group interactions will form an important weapon against the disease. Speaking on the occasion, the Goa University Vice-Chancellor, Prof P S Zacharias said the university is using its long-distance education methodology as well as the recently established FM radio station in collaboration with the Indira Gandhi National Open University for broadcasting AIDS-related programmes. -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Goenkar, buyer beware.
Indian stock markets drop again Indian share prices have fallen by 4% in the wake of steep declines in other Asian markets. The benchmark Bombay Stock Exchange Sensex fell by more than 400 points to 9,397.93, the lowest since January. Indian shares have fallen by more than 25% over the past month after hitting a record high of 12,612 points. Shares across Asian markets have fallen as ongoing fears about interest rate rises in the US continue to hit the global markets. Shares on the National Stock Exchange also tumbled, with the 50-company SP Nifty index down 3.4% to 2,765 points. The falling share prices have led to heavy selling by mutual funds and retail investors. Opportunity Many middle-class Indians have made money on the stock markets over the past few years, but analysts say the era of making quick gains is over. However, they stress that the markets still present an opportunity for long-term investors. Kevin Grice, an emerging markets specialist at American Express bank, believes the share prices on India's markets have fallen to reasonable levels. India is looking very attractive... The Sensex in this kind of area is now a buying opportunity, he told the Associated Press news agency. Story from BBC NEWS: http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/world/south_asia/5058102.stm Published: 2006/06/08 07:03:28 GMT (c) BBC MMVI -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] World Cup sweep stake.
So far we have 7 people, there are 32 teams, so need more people to come in on this one, although it has already been underwritten by one more than generous soul from Canada! The teams can be found at :- http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/t/team/qualified.html The charity has been chosen and the address to send the cheques to is on another email sent in by George Pinto. All the 32 teams names will be put into a hat and drawn one at time against the names of the the entrants, which will also be drawn but from another hat. Thanks in advance and hope to have some more of you coming in on this please! -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] On the banning of the Da Vinci code movie in Goa.
I believe there is more than meets the eye, in this instance. The flexing of muscles and making a point to the Right Wing Hindus, Fundamentalist Muslims, Believers and what have you, played a part. I believe Churchill could not allow himself to be shown as being gutless! Had the Catholic Goans quietly acquiesced by rolling over, maybe tomorrow they would find themselves being the brunt of, who knows?? The point being made, is that we are not ready to be taken as lambs to the slaughtering house. -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Goan Association U.K., Ruby Anniversary.
Most, if not all, Goan Association U.K. Members are aware that their Association is celebrating 40 years of existence. In 1966 I was in the Royal Air Force, stationed at R.A.F. Uxbridge; I received a postcard from Tony D'Costa, my friend and former neigbour, from Nairobi Kenya. Tony had recently arrived in the U.K. to take up his apprenticeship at British Aerospace at Weybridge. The important part of his message was that there was a proposed meeting at Caxton Hall, St. James Place in London, to form a Goan Club. Tony's cousin Romeo D'Silva, urged Tony to attend and bring along any Goans that he might know! That's how I ended up being one of 17 Goans who started the Goan Association. Both Tony and I were teenagers having just finished schooling at St. Teresa's Nairobi - I finished a year earlier, the rest of the attendees were older than us. The only one I remember besides Romeo D'Silva was Camilo D'Souza. To cut to the chase, after some ramblings, as was usual at that time, with our elders, a Memorandum Of Understanding was signed, to form the Goan Association. Tony's and my interest was mainly: hope you guys have some nice daughters! On Saturday, 3rd June 2006, the Goan Association U.K. Celebrated their Ruby Anniversary. The tickets were deliberately priced as a give away, to entice and give back to the faithful membership. All Ex Presidents were invited as guests of the Association. My invitation just about got to me, it was dated 2nd May 2006, arriving on my doorstep on 19th May 2006. I nearly didn't make it, thanks to the abysmal Biritish Postal Services! My friend Tony, also almost didn't make it as he was on vacation and by the time he got back the event was sold out! I was pleased that he did get a ticket to attend...after all we were the two, who were there at the 'Christening' !. The Board of Directors went to a lot of effort to have a memorable event, the decorations complimented the event, Hellium filled balloons do something for me! These were attached to the G.O.A. Logo - two swaying Coconut trees. The food was sumptuous and everyone got their fill, there was sufficient left to feed the hungry horde that came after attending a wedding of the year. They had to attend the wedding but were also determined not to miss out on this milestone of the Association. The Band played well and kept all on their toes. The best thing was that there was room to dance, unlike some recent functions, when the criteria has been - fill up the hall, up to the rafters. There were apparently some Australian Goans as well as some Goans from Frisco who attended, I met Johnny Fernandes, now formally called David ( Tony D'Costa's classmate). His wife Mathilda is the current Secretary of the Frisco Goan Institute ! Mathilda spoke on behalf of the guests and was very generous with her praise, for all things Goan including our Goan Association! Johnny on the other hand, hasn't changed much, still full of confusion, so much so that I ended up taking his invite for a last beer before we left - just as well I had pre-arranged my transport! Both Johnny and Mathilda are true Goaphiles and willing to travel the World in search of Goan milestone celebrations. They previously made it to Mombasa and also Nairobi, for the respective Centenary celebrations. How nice to work for an airline! Maybe these guys can put me down as their friends and family, discount fly? An excited Norma Menezes Rahim, announced that Rabi Martins ( ex President G.O.A.) had recently been appointed as Mayor of Watford. Congratulations to Rabi, hope he is still aspiring to become an M.P.? It was indeed a nostalgic occasion, which might not have happened. More than 10 years ago the Bankers to the Association wrote a letter seeking forclosure, if the outstanding Overdraft was not cleared. I shall not wax lyrical on the part played by three Members, who loaned the Association £50,000, an unsecured loan!. The Association has had a lot of trials and tribulations to contend with but crux if ever there was one, came at that time when Members were disillusioned and many wanted their debentures paid no matter what, at least one threatened to seek foreclosure if his debenture was not redeemed! This is well known by many Senior Members, I trust they have forgiven but not forgotten what had transpired! I take this opportunity to wish the Goan Association U.K. A happy Ruby Anniversary and many more to come. Hopefully Goan Associations and our culture will not, immediately be in terminal decline! Wither next? Celebrations on their own cannot and will not keep us going, already we have lost, in my opinion, talented Goan youngsters. If one reads the Goan Voice U.K. of youngsters making the waves, the Directors should ask themselves, are these hotshots members, if not why not? -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list
[Goanet] World Cup sweepstake.
Hello Goenkars! The sweep stake is on - I really would love more people to participate, although this has already been underwritten. Goa Sudharop will choose the charity to which the money will go to! The winner picks £100 or equivalent to keep the excitement. £220 or equivalent will go to charity. I shall pull the names of the teams from a hat and allocate it according to who comes in. This will be done fairly - so really don't know who will end up with the favourites! It will be fun and it is for Charity. Hopefully George will provide an address for the cheques to be sent to ? The first game starts this Saturday so please try and cough up early! -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Re: Goanet Digest, Vol 3, Issue 565 Message 6
On 06/06/06, Livia/Jorge de Abreu Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really do not see why such big issue is being made on the term Continental Portugal. Our Madeira and Azores brothers/sisters refer to us, living on the mainland as Continentais. And they themselves have a special statute and benesses because of their Insularidade. It appears as though to the usual lusophobians Portugal is just landscape with Lisbon for capital. RESPONSE: I read this pretty good write up on Portugal, I have posted only the beginning of it as it is rather long. Please read. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/global/main.jhtml?xml=/global/mentors/lisbon.xmlDCMP=EMC-exp_05062006 Mentor for Lisbon Sue Leite Monteiro says Portugal's history has had a lasting impact on Lisbon culture with Moorish and Oriental influences in architecture and the arts. (Filed: 08/09/2005) Introduction to Portugal Lisbon Geography and Climate History Culture Economy and Taxation Property Healthcare Ask questions and read the answers on the Mentor Noticeboard. Our mentors are volunteers and any information they provide is for information only and is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice. Click here to access the message boards terms and conditions. Sue met her husband, who is Portuguese, in London when they were both working for the same company. When he returned to Portugal, she likes to say that she was exported with him. That was 25 years ago and since then they have always lived and worked in Lisbon. Sue trained as a Teacher of English as a Foreign Language with the British Council in Lisbon and later moved to the Portuguese Civil Service College where she still works, teaching English and Communication Skills. Introduction to Portugal: I recently read an article about Portugal which said that the country was so forgettable that no-one has bothered to think up a rude nickname for it. The truth is that although it may be a little-known country sitting on the Atlantic rim in the far south west of Europe, it is certainly not forgettable...CLICK on the URL above for a full read. -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Start a World Cup sweepstake for Goan charity?
There are 32 teams, If George Pinto is willing we should start a sweepstake, £10 or equivalent each. All teams go into a hat and each one is pulled out and given to a pre-determined list. The total collected would be £320. The person who gets the winning team get £100 the balance £220 to Goa Sudharop. If there are more people willing to come in on this then we do the same exercise all over again? How about it, let's enjoy ourselves and at the same time raise money for a worthy Goan cause? If this is acceptable put me down as the first entrant and the first team drawn will be against my name and we continue the process. -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] 24 gaddas outside GMC removed
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- http://oheraldo.in/node/14672 24 gaddas outside GMC removed BY HERALD REPORTER PANJIM, JUNE 2 – The North Goa Administration on Friday removed twenty-four gaddas stationed outside the GMC, Bambolim. The North Goa Administration had received a communiqué fromGMC authorities following instructions from the government that the kiosks dotting the entrance of GMC complex should be removed.In all, 24 gaddas were removed in the operation between 11 am to 4 pm under the supervision of the Deputy Collector, Agnel Fernandes assisted by Joint Mamlatdar Parag Nagarcekar. Gaddawallas were served with ultimatum to clear their activities within 24 hours on, informed officials. -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] RE : Kiss which cheek first?
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- On 02/06/06, Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mario observes: For the spatially challenged among us, if the kisser starts with the kissee's right cheek, he or she would be starting from their - the kisser's - left, and vice versa. I think the kisser should start on their right, which would be the kissee's left cheek. RESPONSE: Needless to say, you think incorrectly; I trust that kissing on the cheeks, by Goan Catholics, is derived from the former Colonialists, the Portuguese. The way it is done in Portugal as explained by a Portuguese, is as follows: http://www.virtualtourist.com/travel/Europe/Portugal/Distrito_de_Lisboa/Lisbon-286122/Local_Customs-Lisbon-Social_interactions-BR-1.html Social interactions: Kissing Written by Mundus on October 7, 2003. Portuguese love to kiss. When I lived in the US I almost got myself into trouble because when I got introduced to girls I would give them two kisses, even with their boyfriends there. That's the way we do it in Portugal. Very few hand shakes between opposite sex people. The tipical Portuguese kiss goes like this: you turn your head to the left and kiss the other people's right cheek then you turn your head to the right and kiss the left cheek. Simple! Now go out there and do some kissing! -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] 7 illegal kiosks cleared at GMC
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- http://www.navhindtimes.com/stories.php?part=newsStory_ID=060322 7 illegal kiosks cleared at GMC NT Staff Reporter Panaji, June 2: The demolition squad of the Tiswadi sub-divisional magistrate�s office here today removed several unauthorised kiosks on government land located at the periphery of the Goa Medical College and Hospital, Bambolim. The removal of seven kiosks was effected after the SDM, Mr Agnelo A J Fernandes, received a written communication from the GMC authorities complaining about the nuisance caused by the kiosks and the anti-social elements, who frequented them late in the evening. The GMC authorities had also complained about the �eve teasing� by the drivers of the taxis which are parked in the GMC complex and have sought their removal too. Meanwhile, sources in the government said that drive against the taxi owners at the GMC complex would be initiated soon and that the taxis would be allowed to be parked on the levelled ground outside the complex. -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England Comment: An excellent start, now other illegal kiosks should be targeted! _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Martin’s Corner finds mention in From mer’s Guide
the advertisement claims that Goa is a land of music and musicians, the government prefers to follow the Madhya Pradesh Act and stop music after 10 p.m, just when the tourist which the advertisement lures into Goa - wants to shake a leg and enjoy. How weird. Mr Bonny and Mr Pobre are now thinking of opening an accommodation facility in the beauty of the nearby sunset beach along with a coffee shop continuing with the Martin's Corner tradition of pampering tourists. Bigger plans include a wish to have another Martin's Corner in North Goa. It is not because of Mopa, but just the feeling to cater to our North Goa clients, who otherwise have to brave through the bad roads to get to Betalbatim and that too on a hungry stomach, said Mr Bonny in a lighter vein. According to him, the plan for a golf course is a positive sign. We will then be able to attract the upmarket tourists and a new class of tourism can be brought to Goa, Mr Bonny insisted. In his opinion what the state today needs is a quality crowd of visitors. Only volumes won't help, he cautioned. Martin's Corner, Mr Bonny proudly informs is open throughout the year with the local populace forming the clientele base. One can feel this from our rates, despite tremendous growth, Mr Bonny said before topping it up in his business style by announcing that advance booking is recommended. -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] RE : Kiss which cheek first?
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- On 01/06/06, Cher Sty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gabe, Well, in France, the French start by the right cheek.I have noticed that in most of the countries in Europe it is the same - it is just the number of kisses given which are different (2 or 4 in France, 3 in Belgium, 4 in Switzerland for instance as long as I remember what I had been told by the inhabitants of those countries.) Concerning, the right side by which the first kiss has to be given, there may be exceptions to that - which I do not know - if in UK, they start by the left cheek, that may be explained by the fact that they drive on the left unlike most of the European countries. ;-) Best, Rys RESPONSE: Thank you for the clarification; just as I thought right cheek first! Now I do hope our Goans who did it nonchalantly, do it correctly! -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Notice for Londoners..if interested.
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- SATURDAY 24th JUNE : Sacred Heart Church, Wimbledon. The Secrets of the Da Vinci Code. Fr Gerald O'Collins, S.J (Gregorian University, Rome) will lead a study day in the Upper Hall from 10.30 a.m. – 3.30 p.m. Author or co-author of 45 published books and hundreds of articles, Gerald O'Collins has become well known for his articles in The Tablet and appearances on the BBC. His most recent books include: Easter Faith (Darton, Longman and Todd) and Catholicism (Oxford University Press). -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Dev Borem Korum, Adieu, Adios.
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- A few months ago it seems a hornet's nest was disturbed, by the farewell salutations used here! Yesterday whilst watching Master Mind, a common farewell used in French and Spanish amongst other 'Latin' languages, Adieu = To God So it seems it is not just Konkani that invokes God, so eat your hearts out fellas! -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Monsoons in Goa.................
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- On 30/05/06, Vivian D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What a beautiful time of the year in Goa ! RESPONSE: Aaah to be in Goa at this time of the year, Wife and me in bed looking into each other's eyes! I hope to do this before I die! Glad you met Dom, Obviously he made an impression on you. Now I am not going to put you on the spot but you didn't mention your pleasure in meeting another Goanetter! Perhaps it was your displeasure..Now I don't know whether to put a smiley or a frown on this one, so I'll just abstain. -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Inauguration of Goan Chaplaincy, London.
28th May 2006, saw the inauguration of the first 'Goan Chaplaincy' in the U.K. The Goan Chaplaincy is the successor to the 'Asian Chaplaincy'. Now the Goans in and around London have their very own Goan Priest to tend to their spiritual needs. The Mass started one hour late due to a mix up; the Bishop waited patiently at the Church, some two miles down the road, although the mass was scheduled at the School Hall. All's well that ends well. The Choir comprised, mainly, the Goans from Swindon, with perhaps one or two others from elsewhere. The accompaniment was typically, what one would hear at a progressive Catholic Mass in Goa. The ghumto made its presence felt! The Readings and Gospel were read in Konkani, in keeping with the occasion. Rev. Fr. Oliver Antao was pleased with the reception and the 'Christening' of the occasion. I met Ciril De Qadros, ( Who posts here, occasionally) a formidable giant of a man, one would be afraid to meet him in a dark narrow alley! Ciril and his family are stalwarts and give unstinting support to the Chaplaincy. The band, Rainbow's End, a quintet from Swindon played pretty well and had a typical Goa flavour to it. We were running late and the Mister Goa + Miss Goa show took up a lot of dancing time! Fr. Antao apologized for this and hoped that we would be understanding! There was a big contingent of Goans from Swindon. I spoke to some of the youngsters, who came from Goa some years ago and work for TS TECH a Honda subsidiary. Honda is one of the more successful Motorcar manufacturers here in the U.K., so the Goans working for Honda should feel secure in their jobs. These youngsters are looking for brides, no doubt - so next time your see an advert in the Goanet Matrimonial, it might read young lad, working hard for Honda, seeks brave Goa girl to venture to Swindonplease email Greg Fernandes ( Navelim). I wrongly, had the impression that there were many Goans in Swindon, who originally came from Taliegao. I met two lads from Agassaim and one from Navelim, did not meet any one who hailed from Taliegao. It was Fr. Oliver's intention to get the people together; in this he succeeded to an extent. All the helpers did their best and were thanked profusely by the Goan Chaplain. I have many thoughts of what was wrong and what went okay, at the occasion. I shall reserve this piece and proffer my advice directly to those concerned! The caterers, Mrs. Britto and Bernie's Kitchen, did their good deed and fed the crowd to starters and a pretty good main meal of Sorpotel, Xacuti, vegetable curry and pulao rice with pickle and a piece of Bebinca as well!. Frank Sequeira, did his usual and provided Kingfisher beer to the bar. Frank and his wife have over the years helped the Chaplaincy to a good extent. If one wants to meet Swindon Goans, please take a trip there, on a Sunday or wait until the GOA open day when they are sure to be out in droves! -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Just curious
On 27/05/06, Anthony M Barreto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I must thank the gentleman who brought the 10th wedding anniversary of Cecil and Beatrice to our attention on goanet. Cecil has two well known e-mail IDs and yet the subsequent wishing on goanet that followed escapes my simple mind. I am aware that curiosity killed a cat. But it is also true that curiosity is what gave us some incredible modern inventions. Just for curiosity's sake, could anyone of those who wished Mr and Mrs Pinto on goanet tell me why they preferred to make their personal greetings on a public domain despite having his personal mail? Please, it's nothing beyond plain curiosity. Tony Martin RESPONSE: Elementary my friend, we wanted the Whole Wide World to share in this joyous occasion. Then each and everyone of us wanted to be counted on this forum as having felicitated. (i.e. those that wished, it to be so!) -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] GOA FOR A CHEAP BEER
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=17140623method=fullsiteid=94762headline=goa-for-a-cheap-beer--name_page.html GOA FOR A CHEAP BEER GOA and Bulgaria are the cheapest places to go on holiday, a recent survey by tour giant Thomas Cook reveals. However Brazil, a new package holiday destination for this summer, is the second cheapest destination worldwide - and a bargain for beer drinkers. A pint in Brazil costs just 79p, compared to £1 in Goa, 90p in Bulgaria and £1.75 in Spain. Mainland Spain is now cheaper than in previous years. After the introduction of the euro in 1999, Spain, Italy and Greece became more expensive than non-euro destinations, leading to huge growth in popularity for Bulgaria and Turkey. But this year Spain is the second cheapest European destination with Majorca in third place. The cheapest places to visit this summer worldwide are on the right with European destinations on the left (2005 positions are in brackets). -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Congrats to Beatrice and Cecil Pinto
On 25/05/06, George Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Congratulations to Beatrice and Cecil Pinto who celebrate their 10th wedding anniversary today. Cecil has entertained us with his humourous posts over the years. Please join me in wishing them many more years of marital bliss. Regards, George Comment: I too enjoin in wishing joyous felicitations! Gabe has sent you an E-Card! Someone wanted to share their heart and God's love with you today with a DaySpring E-card. Your E-card is waiting at this location: http://www.dayspring.com/ecards/card.asp?ID=0323a59a-llk You can also go to DaySpring.com and enter your retrieval number (0323a59a-llk) in the space provided on the left-hand side of the page. Blessings to you from the folks at DaySpring Cards, the world's leading Christian greeting card company. http://www.dayspring.com -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] WE ARE ALL GOANS
On 24/05/06, cornel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mario I have very mildly clashed with Ricardo previously on Goanet. If my memory serves me well, it was over his contention that, but for the Portuguese, all Goans would have been of Turkisk/Muslim provenance. Historically, this could well have been an alternative reality of course, but it was his implication that, the Goans ought to be grateful for Portuguese colonisation, because it was a better alternative, that I had found contentious Comment: I do believe that Arjun was being more than a tad bit, sarcastic...I think he was poking fun at Mario! Come on you guys, someone who is so, PORTUGUESE, would not concede to easily I must say, I think the joke is on your Mario, okay?? -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] WE ARE ALL GOANS
On 23/05/06, Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mario observes: I wonder what Cornel is going to say about this assertion, which does not have a single smiley face? He got upset with me just for saying that the Portuguese got their names from Goan Catholics, and my post was full of smiley faces:-)) RESPONSE: Cornel would ask, are you with us or are you with the lotus eaters? -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] I have a theory about men!
On 23/05/06, Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since I working on your assignment on I am back post, I will let your other students / devotees respond to this post. Likely the guys who will respond to it will be thinking straight.:=)) Kind Regards, GL Comment: I really don't remember when I last thought straight! Have to check with my wife - probably get a smirky smile - its okay, getting old boyo! -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] PDD
On 23/05/06, Elisabeth Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Vivian, PDD cannot be contracted by women even with frequent contact. Thank goodness :)) Which is why we'd have fewer wars if more women were incharge. Afterall, we're not obsessed with proving that we've got the bigger heat-seeking missile :) Elisabeth Indira Gandhi and Maggie Thatcher and two women leaders who readily come to mind! still think there'd be fewer wars? -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Nelly Furtado's Third Album
On 22/05/06, Michael Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nelly Furtado's third album 'Loose' will be released on June 20, 2006. The follow up to 2003's 'Folklore', 'Loose' includes the single 'Man-eaters as well as a duet with Latin pop superstar Juanes, and the song 'All Good Things' which features Coldplay's frontman, Chris Martin. Nelly Furtado, a Bombay Goan left India to settle in Canada when she was three years old. Mike Ali Comment : It's not yet April 1st 2007! Nelly Furtado is a Canadian, born to Azorean parents ( Portuguese) Please check out the URL below: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelly_Furtado -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Pro active Govt. officials lift illegal matka kiosk at Navelim
On 21/05/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Authorities clamp down on illegal kiosk at Navelim --- The South Goa district administration in a surprise raid this evening clamped down on a kiosk accepting matka bets at Navelim and attached the same, even as those operating it took to their heels. The surprise raid took place as a continuation of a planned demolition of an illegal kiosk, which though slated for May 18, was not a success as the concerned block development officer and panchayat were informed that the illegal structure was demolished amid conflicting reports. Comment: A big hurrah, to the pro active Government officials. Navelim, Goa and India needs more of them! There are so many illegal kiosks and land grab artists all over Goa, we need many more of these Goan stalwarts to get into action! The Government should promote these people. -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Port Wine.
Most, if not all Goenkars, know about Port Wine, as a Ruby Red drink? Well I have news for you - there is a White Port which is chilled and absolutely divine. Some excellent White Ports cost an arm and a leg. Perhaps some of the Lusophiles on this list could inform us, whether White Port Wine was available in Goa! Port Wine was freely available in Goa, greatly appreciated, for its bouquet, body and flavour, in Goa when there Portuguese were around. Vincola, is a poor substitute! More sugar than body. Let's get back on track, was there White Port available in Goa during the Portuguese time? -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Da Vinci Code like global catechism class
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1c=Articlecid=1147902614979call_pageid=970599119419 Da Vinci Code like global catechism class May 20, 2006. 01:00 AM MARY LUCKASAVITCH GUEST COLUMN If Chicken Little were a Christian, especially a practising Catholic, he'd probably find now is as good a time as any to start shouting that the sky is indeed falling and falling fast. And the reason for this impending doom and gloom? The Da Vinci Code, of course. Things appeared as bad as they could get when the book first made its debut and forced open debates on the nature of Jesus' relationship with Mary Magdalene, but since the recent tidal wave of publicity surrounding the releases of the paperback version and the movie, it's become downright uncomfortable for the faithful.This really needn't be the case for believers, however. In fact, with a glass half-full approach, we can actually read the book and see the movie and find ourselves growing in the faith to boot!I certainly understand why so many in the Church are angry about this book. After all it does make a mockery of a 2,000 year-old institution, the Roman Catholic Church, and intentionally or not, implies that its members are either terribly naïve or just plain stupid. The book also assaults the most sacred beliefs Christians have about Jesus Christ. What is probably most upsetting of all is that the book can mislead readers into believing what they are reading is not fiction but whole-hearted truth. I, myself, have had to deal with loved ones who have had their beliefs altered if not entirely thrown upside down by The Da Vinci Code. I don't blame them or anyone else for having second thoughts on what they have been brought up to believe their entire lives. It's precisely because of these questions and doubts that The Da Vinci Code is a blessing in disguise.Thanks to Dan Brown, information on the history of Christianity is more readily available than ever before. Even better, this information is not presented in a traditional academic format, but offered up in easily digestible 21st century bites. There really is no excuse for any Christian or interested party to disregard this information, especially if they want to form an opinion one way or the other. The Roman Catholic Church, which has lamented (and still does) The Da Vinci Code, reacted surprisingly swiftly to the groundswell the book created. The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops even went so far as to create a website (http://www.jesusdecoded.com) that does a respectable job of breaking through the cracks in the code. One section in particular — What do you say to a Da Vinci Code believer? — provides a vantage point that many Christians have probably never considered before. For example, how does a Christian reply to the claim that the Church wanted to erase Mary Magdalene's presence (as the book purports)? Well, how about by pointing out that all four Gospels have Mary Magdalene as the first witness to the Empty Tomb. With such an integral role in the story of the resurrection, she can hardly be swept under the rug. In reality, The Da Vinci Code has provided the Roman Catholic Church with a global catechism class. Some churches have been quick to realize this and started their own Bible-study groups based on the book. Adults who haven't received instruction in the faith for decades are now students again and for the first time are coming into contact with the writings of the early Church Fathers, dating as far back as the 1st century. In addition to increasing the faith, The Da Vinci Code also opens the door for Christians to evangelize which, like it or not, is expected of us. I'm surprised that there hasn't been more movement on this. When The Passion of the Christ was released, ample resources for evangelizing were readily available. Try as I might, I have yet to come across anything about The Da Vinci Code that can be considered user-friendly, no short tract that can be handed out. I suspect that many Christians are simply intimidated at the thought of passing on our beliefs when we're up against hard-core believers of the book. It can all seem so complex, which is why a good place to start is in fact with the book and/or the movie. If we get a good idea of what the claims against Christianity are, we can then tackle each subject one step at a time. I, for one, would have preferred more pleasant circumstances in which to delve deeper into the roots of my faith but the fact of the matter is The Da Vinci Code was the catalyst and for that I'm truly grateful for the book, warts and all.Mary Luckasavitch is a writer who focuses on religion. Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Getting expertise... on rats
On 19/05/06, Frederick Noronha (FN) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some time back one raised the query about how to deal with rats, via this forum. It resulted in mostly light-hearted banter, and some real attempts to answer the issue raised. Actually, rats can be a serious problem. At least in rural Goa. Talk to anyone who lived here, and you'll realise this is no joke. Thanks to some help from friends, one is getting a bit of a deeper insight into how to deal with rats. RESPONSE: In Goa they only have the cage rat trap! In Kenya and even here in the U.K. one can buy a back breaker. This a spring trap which snaps the back or head of the rat, when it takes the bait - clean and reusable. Now there are new devices, although quite pricey. Electronic signals as sent but the contraption which uses minute amounts of electricity. Rats, insects, many other pests get disturbed by the high pitched signal ( inaudible to Humans and pets) . They do not stay around for long... cheapest one so far on Google is around £30. I am not sure if it is effective against mosquitoes! I shall try one in Goa. -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Indian shares suffer record drop
Indian shares suffer record drop Shares on India's Bombay Stock Exchange have suffered their biggest one-day fall in value in its history. The benchmark Sensex index at one stage dropped by 872 points to 11,346 - a 7.1% fall. It rallied slightly by close of trading, ending the day 6.8% down. Analysts say the main cause is the falls in shares elsewhere in the world on Wednesday, particularly Wall Street. European markets on Thursday showed signs of rallying, boosted by corporate earnings in the UK and France. Prices of all the major shares traded on the Bombay exchange fell as the index began sliding following Wednesday's Wall Street drop. Indian markets never correct... they always crash Analyst Hemen Kapadia Something had to give... the market had risen very quickly and was already fragile, so when we were hit overnight with fears of rising US inflation and weak Asian markets, jittery investors bailed, Andrew Holland of DSP Merrill Lynch told Reuters. But some brokers say prices fell also because of rumours that the government could increase higher taxes on foreign funds investing in Indian stocks. If we hear some reassuring words from the finance minister, who knows the markets may bounce back on Friday, stock broker Atul Shah told the BBC. Foreign enthusiasm This year has seen the Sensex breaking records, going through the 10,000 points barrier in February and the 12,000 barrier in April. Foreign investors have been pumping money into Indian markets, keen to take a share of its fast-growing economy. They spent a record $10.7bn (£6bn) on Indian shares last year, encouraging Indian savers to push more of their money into equities. But Hemen Kapadia, an analyst with the investment advisory firm Morpheus Incorporated, says Thursday's falls have vitiated the feel-good times in the market. Indian markets never correct, he told the BBC. They always crash and the individual investor is the one who suffers the most in such a situation. Story from BBC NEWS: http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/world/south_asia/4993520.stm Published: 2006/05/18 12:20:13 GMT (c) BBC MMVI -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] QUO VADIS DABOLIM ( MOPA)?
On 18/05/06, Philip Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So which way is the Dabolim upgrade headed? From the talk of aerobridges etc its not the latter (Schipol)! Neither is Mopa with its 5000 acres, A380 runway etc etc (with Dabolim reserved for VVIPs and perhaps a growing fleet of business jets). Why doesnt Goa get it when it comes to aviation matters? Hmmm. RESPONSE: It's not all doom and gloom http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=ZRBZGYCHKPGPLQFIQMFCFFOAVCBQYIV0?xml=/news/2006/05/18/uairliner.xmlsSheet=/news/2006/05/18/ixnews.html Superjumbo makes maiden UK voyage (Filed: 18/05/2006) In pictures: A380 touches down The world's biggest passenger airliner, the giant 555-seater Airbus A380, has touched down safely at Heathrow Airport on its first visit to Britain. The A380 The A380 is piloted by Cpt Strongman With Ed Strongman, a British test pilot, at the controls, the 240ft-long, double-decker plane landed at the west London airport at exactly 1.20pm. Capt Strongman fluttered a Union flag from the cockpit as the plane slowed to a halt, and Heathrow staff broke off from their work to applaud the mammoth plane. Big crowds had gathered to catch a glimpse of the £200 million plane as it flew in from the Berlin Air Show. Capt Strongman and his crew took a deliberate detour so they could pass over two Airbus UK plants - Broughton in North Wales - where the A380's wings are made - and Filton in Bristol. It was amazing to see so many faces looking up at me, Capt Strongman said. It made me realise how many people are involved in this project. Among those waiting to greet the plane at a new £105 million pier 6 at Heathrow's Terminal 3 were Gordon Brown, the Chancellor. This is a great day for London, a great day for Britain and British manufacturing, and a great day for European co-operation, he said. It shows Europe at its best and also shows the success of British workmanship and technology at its highest level. The new pier is part of £450 million worth of work that BAA, the airport operator, is doing at Heathrow to enable the airport to accommodate the A380 and future large aircraft. The A380 will stay at Heathrow while tests are carried out to ensure it is compatible with the new facilities. The plane will return to Berlin early tomorrow morning. It was first shown off by Airbus at its Toulouse headquarters in a lavish event attended by Tony Blair in January 2005. Then, in April last year, the plane flew for the first time, completing a four-hour flight. Airbus has spent around £6 billion to introduce the A380. So far the company has taken 159 firm orders from 16 airlines for the plane, including Singapore Airlines, Virgin Atlantic, Qantas, Qatar Airways and Emirates. However British Airways has yet to place an order. They, like many other airline companies, want to wait and see how the plane performs and how ready the world's airports are to receive it. -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] British actors save the day as critics pan Da Vinci Code
Thinking of seeing the move? Save your money, read on British actors save the day as critics pan Da Vinci Code By Hugh Davies in Cannes (Filed: 18/05/2006) It was left to the British to rescue Hollywood from disaster last night after critics crucified the long-awaited film adaptation of The Da Vinci Code as a jumbled melodrama.. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=KTUOL3LNYDIK3QFIQMFSFGGAVCBQ0IV0?xml=/news/2006/05/18/wcannes18.xmlsSheet=/news/2006/05/18/ixnews.html -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Pics of women in Newspapers banned.
Never mind about the Da Vinci code leading some astray; now the Saudi King has banned Women's pictures in Newspapers, to avoid exciting love lorn men! Read on click on to the URL below:- http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article485898.ece -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Dan Brown has resurrected a heresy that rattles the Church
Dan Brown has resurrected a heresy that rattles the Church By Boris Johnson (Filed: 18/05/2006) Jesus had a baby, yes Lord. Jesus had a baby, yes my Lord. It sounds pretty blasphemous, put like that, doesn't it? The only reason I dare to begin with those words is that they represent the beliefs of growing millions of otherwise sane British adults. Yup, folks, we all seem to be swallowing the new gospel. You on the Tube, madam, turning the pages with such narcosis that you miss your stop: you believe it, don't you?. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml;jsessionid=3MM2PR01YCXSVQFIQMGSFFWAVCBQWIV0?xml=/opinion/2006/05/18/do1801.xmlsSheet=/news/2006/05/18/ixnews.html -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Muslims join Da Vinci criticism
Muslims join Da Vinci criticism Roman Catholics in the Indian city of Mumbai (Bombay) have received Muslim support in protests against the release of the movie, The Da Vinci Code. Film censors have cleared the movie for release in India on 19 May. An umbrella organisation of Islamic clerics in Mumbai have labelled the film as blasphemous because it spreads lies about Jesus Christ. One Roman Catholic activist has gone on what he says is a hunger strike until death unless the film is banned. 'Violent protests' The Holy Koran recognises Jesus as a prophet. What the book says is an insult to both Christians and Muslims, Maulana Mansoor Ali Khan, general secretary of the All-India Sunni Jamiyat-ul-Ulema, told the Reuters news agency. Muslims in India will help their Christian brothers protest this attack on our common religious belief, he said. His stance was supported by Syed Noori, president of Mumbai-based Raza Academy, a Muslim cultural organisation that organises protests on issues concerning Islam. If the government doesn't do anything, we will try our own ways of stopping the film from being shown, he said. We are prepared for violent protests in India if needed. A Roman Catholic activist, Joseph Dias, began a hunger strike on Tuesday which he said would be continued until the film is banned. Earlier this month hundreds of Catholic demonstrators gathered outside a convent school in Mumbai in protest over the film's release. I will continue my fast until they ban the film Joseph Dias, general secretary of the Catholic Secular Forum Da Vinci Code author Dan Brown explores the premise that Jesus married Mary Magdalene and produced children, whose descendants are alive today. The Catholic Secular Forum has described the film as offensive because hits certain basic foundations of the religion. India's Central Board of Film Certification said Tuesday it would give the movie an adult rating if the film-makers agreed to a disclaimer at the start of the movie saying it was a work of fiction. There is a visual of self-flagellation and limited amount of nudity in (one) particular scene, board member Vinayak Azad told the AFP news agency. It has got adult content. One of the three Catholic representatives of the five-member board, the Rev Myron Pereira, said that it was cleared because the contention that Christ married was fictional. But it does not portray anything in an obscene fashion, he said. People can protest about anything since we live in a democracy. It is estimated that there are about 18m Roman Catholics in India, with 500,000 living in Mumbai. The Christian community comprises about 2% of India's population of over one billion. Story from BBC NEWS: http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/south_asia/4985370.stm Published: 2006/05/16 10:00:45 GMT (c) BBC MMVI -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] John Mill a Conservative?
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- On 15/05/06, Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Santosh Helekar wrote: Wikipedia has already provided a correct quote. Here is the link to it: http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/John_Stuart_Mill RESPONSE: Mario Goveia, you are being disingenuous and devious at the same time...you stated quite pompously to Elizabeth that she was being presumptuous, in stating knowledge about John Stuart Mill, being obtained via Google, same as you. You refuted that and gave us the impression that you were fully conversant with the man and his standing. To put it simply you are forever ducking and diving, I needn't say more, your postings as always give you away. Santosh corrected you and you stand correced! Please be man enough to say so. -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] European Union To Honour Goan Priest With Commemorative Post Card
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- On 13/05/06, Goanet News [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . According to the report, initially the commemorative stamp proposal initiated by Dom Martins, a Goan artiste based in USA, was to honour the priest with a commemorative stamp, but after the world-wide internet petition signed by admirers of Fairia to the Stamp Advisory Committee of one of the European Countries crossed the deadline for submission of stamp proposals, the authorities assured to release a commemorative postcard instead. Comment: Our hats off to Dom for his dogged determination in getting this project to its successful conclusion. Dom a true son of the soil! -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Re: Rooting for Goa
On 11/05/06, Jerry Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Cornel, I am not sure which Jerry you are addressing in your mail. I could not trace any sender other than me with the name Jerry. The only other person with the same name used to be Gerry who has not written for long time. If the address of your correspondence is for me, than I assure you that I have not written any correspondence under the topic ROOTING FOR GOA. But incase if there has been any other Jerry who has written such a topic, and I have not received such a mail, than I apologize for writing this mail. Cheers Jerry Fernandes Riyadh / Aldona Here is the offending post and it was not Gerry/Jerry! :- From: joseph dsouza [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@goanet.org To: goanet@goanet.org Date: 08-May-2006 06:03 Subject: [Goanet] Re: *** Goanet Reader: Rooting for Goa ... the fruits are beginning to show Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Add sender to Contacts list | Delete this message | Report phishing | Show original | Fredick/Miguel Branganza, We Goans need more people like you two who will go back to their roots rather than Migrating to Canada, Australia, New Zealand and all the white countries and showelling shit over there (with the lame excuse - Burgeank lagon kortanv) God Bless You Guys Joseph D'Souza Kuwait .in the same vein Mario Goveia has in the past claimed that I was not a former Banker/Trader but probaby a janitor/toilet cleaner. What can one say? Huh! -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Are there Goans in Iran?
On 10/05/06, Teotonio R. de Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been missing the discussions that had become a fixture on this forum about the invasion of Irak. Though long-drawn they have petered out and fortunately did not last as long as that invasion! I am surprised about the silence on this forum about the threats of military action against Iran! Or for that matter about the entente cordiale between Bush and Manmohan, taking India out of Iranian gas supply. Is perhaps any threat of fatwa discouraging the Goanetters from venturing with «satanic verses»? Does anyone know if there are Goans in Iran? Teotonio R. de Souza RESPONSE: There is every enthusiasm to discuss Iraq, Iran, North Korea, Venezuela and what have you. The only problem is that one can only bring these topics into play if there are Goans involved ! Since God is a Goan ( Jesus Christ is a Goan) and has spoken to both Bush and Blair, inviting them to attack Iraq, I can safely post the following:- Bush is ruining Tony Blair's career By Amitabh Pal May 9, 2006 Prime Minister Tony Blair's special relationship with President Bush could very spell finis for his career. Blair is in trouble for a major cabinet reshuffle, the highlight being the firing of Foreign Secretary Jack Straw. A column in the London Independent [1]asserts that Straw was dropped because of his opposition to a U.S. military assault on Iran. Straw had labeled the idea of a U.S. nuclear strike on Iran as nuts and had said that British action against Iran was inconceivable. Apparently, Bush wasn't too amused. The cabinet rearrangement was also due to the Labor Party's dismal recent showing in local elections, which has added pressure for Tony Blair to step down. Blair had pledged during last year's parliamentary elections to hand over power to Gordon Brown, currently the chancellor of exchequer, but has since then in Clintonesque fashion (Clinton being a good friend and political mentor) refused to be pinned down on exactly when he'll be doing so. The Iraq War has been one of the major reasons for the profound disillusionment with Blair's leadership among the British electorate. Derek Wyatt, a Member of Parliament from Blair's Labor Party, was quoted in the Washington Post as saying that Blair's support for Bush's Iraq debacle has cost him dearly. I've been listening to people in my constituency very carefully for a couple of years, Wyatt said. [2] And they'd like to see a change at the top. Indeed, Blair's enthusiasm for the Iraq invasion severely damaged him during the parliamentary elections last year, causing his party's majority in the House of Commons to be reduced by almost 100 seats. This was in spite of the fact that the economy was performing quite well, with unemployment rates and interest rates both low. Blair has also had some other genuine achievements [3], notably in the devolution of power to Scotland and Wales. But all this paled beside his decision to go along with Bush's Iraq attack. Why did he do it? Speculation has ranged from the view that Blair regards the British-U.S. relationship as sacrosanct to the notion that he hoped to steer Bush toward a more internationalist approach to the Iraq crisis. But a recent revelation suggests that Blair may share Bush's religious fervor on the issue. In a March television appearance, Blair suggested that God ordained the Iraq War. I think if you have faith about these things then you realize that judgment is made by other people, Blair said. By other people, by, if you believe in God, it's made by God as well. In these comments, Blair subtly echoed Bush's assertions [4] that God had asked him to invade Iraq. His bitter political experience due to Iraq seems to have finally chastened Blair's enthusiasm for Bush's military adventurism. In his press conference after the cabinet reshuffle debacle, Blair ruled out a nuclear option for Iran. I don't know anybody who has even talked or contemplated the prospect of a nuclear strike in Iran, and that would be absolutely absurd, he said. Let's hope that for once Blair is being truthful. If Blair gives any more support to Bush's foreign policy disasters, it may finally put a full stop to his already imperiled political career. Source URL: http://progressive.org/mag_apb050906 -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Veronica and Iran
On 10/05/06, Preetam Raikar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree entirely with Veronica, a confrotation with Iran will not only be a economic/jenvironmental disaster for the Mid-East, but for the whole world. Veronica is airing his views, Gabe and Mario who imagine they are the Ayotallah's of Iran by stating that in the event of attacking Iran nothing disastrous will occur are absolutely wrong. Preetam QUESTION; Are you sure that is what I wrote? Are you sure what Veronica wrote? Lastly are you sure you read what Mario wrote? -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] goanet progesses as new voices are heard
On 07/05/06, Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Mervyn Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I DEMAND an apology from you for calling the members of this net barbarians. I say, if the shoe fits, wear it. If it doesn't, then one has nothing to worry about. RESPONSE: Yes Mervyn, no need to get agitated. For now we know for sure and confirmed, there is just one Barbarian on this forum.The definition of a Barbarian I had posted earlier. The one barbarian wrote thus:- ''I believe their presence will serve to civilize the discourse and the barbarians among us, of which I am certainly one'' Once again the true barbarian:- ''1 : of or relating to a land, culture, or people alien and usually believed to be inferior to another land, culture, or people 2 : lacking refinement, learning, or artistic or literary culture'' .From Webster. -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Poor, sick, desperate. What more could Big Pharma ask in Indian drug trials?
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,6-2170155,00.html Poor, sick, desperate. What more could Big Pharma ask in Indian drug trials? Science Notebook by Anjana Ahuja IF YOU ever thought that taking part in drug trials seemed an easy route to modest riches, the preliminary experiments on human beings involving compound TGN1412 should have disabused you of that notion. This was the drug, made by TeGenero and trialed by the drug-testing firm Paraxel, that left six healthy men seriously ill, two of them close to death. Although it was a public relations disaster for both companies, public enthusiasm for trials has long been dwindling, and not just among the healthy, who are first in the experimental firing line (before being used to make sick people better, scientists must ensure that potential therapies do not make healthy people sick). Even the ill are reluctant to entrust what little health they have to pharmaceutical companies. One study found that 71 per cent of cancer patients deemed eligible for clinical trials decline the opportunity. That contrasts with a growing preference by the drug firms for larger trials, which tend to show up rare side-effects earlier. Bigger trials are seen as a way of preventing another Vioxx — an arthritis drug that was found, after licensing, to cause heart attacks and stroke. Forbes.com reports that compensating affected patients could cost the makers, Merck, $38 billion (£24.4 billion). And so Big Pharma has begun outsourcing its trials to India, a move that, according to bioethicists, could create a new imperialism. India has huge numbers of sick people glad to test drugs in return for minimal, if any, recompense. The patients rarely mind — to them, experimental healthcare is better than none at all — and they rarely complain. India also has a homegrown supply of highly educated, English-speaking doctors, who cost a fraction of their Western counterparts. AstraZeneca has opened a drug-testing facility in Bangalore; Pfizer has done the same in Bombay. At the moment one in a hundred global clinical trials is conducted in India, but Oxygen Healthcare, a British consultancy, estimates that in five years' time that figure will have risen to one in ten. This makes financial sense but others are clearly worried that poor, illiterate patients are being exploited. There is certainly doubt over whether they are giving informed consent. The Indian Journal of Medical Ethics reports that patients are often unable to distinguish between trials that might benefit them and those that won't. Another study pointed out that, of the country's 14,000 general hospitals, fewer than 200 are equipped to carry out drug trials adequately. Indian patients are often used to test medicines that, once marketed, they will not be able to afford. The editors of the American Journal of Bioethics say in their blog that pharma trials in India should be the focus of a huge amount of attention in the world of research ethics. Even more forthright was a recent opinion piece in The Scientist. If Gandhi were alive today, he would lead protesters to the doors of a clinical research trials facility, where the oppression of the Indian poor dwarfs that of the 1930s. This is a reference to Gandhi's march against the British salt tax, which made it illegal to obtain salt from anyone other than the British Government, even though it could be collected along the coast. Gandhi and his supporters marched 240 miles from western India to coastal Gujarat, gathering the mineral on the way. The march ended in a bloody confrontation at a salt factory. The Indian Government now stands accused of colluding in this new oppression. In 2004 it stipulated that drugs tested in India should first be proved safe in their country of origin; in 2005 the law was revoked. This issue deserves close inspection but we should beware a knee-jerk cry of exploitation. The most rational thing to do is to look at the equation of exploitation: does the drug company benefit unfairly from its interaction with the patient? If so, then perhaps The Scientist is justified in asking: How long before the people of the nation of Gandhi rise up to reject a new imperialism? -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Re: The debate on non-reservations and now Canada
On 07/05/06, Helga do Rosario Gomes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From your posts Mervyn, I have already figured out that Canada is the best country to live in! If only we could be so lucky. My comment is in regard to Canadian job postings that I read in 'EOS', the American Geophysical Union's newsletter and other Earth Sciences job sites which state that Canadian citizens and permanent residents will be given preference. RESPONSE: I believe Mervyn has already offered to show the ropes, guide anyone, through availing the system once they arrive in Toronto. I agree, the majority of us are on the opposite side, of the spectrum, from Goveia. We should not entertain him, treat him as inconsequential. That is easily said than done! I am sure now that you have said your piece on the present Admin. in the USA you will get a screed in response from Goveia. You are also correct about many immigrants to Canada. Many are so disillusioned that they return back to their original place of origin. We here in the U.K. are fortunate that we can attend tiatrs and Village feasts almost every month except during Lent. This coming Saturday the AVC are having their 25th anniversary and LYNX are performing at a sit down meal function. Although our weather is not great, we can take a bus even in Winter! I tried doing that in Canada in Autumn, not good at all for one's well being. The job situation is pretty good here in the UK, although there are difficult pockets, like when, even newly qualified Doctors are unable to get a placement. I believe these obstacles are to be found World Wide. Qualifying as lawyers is another problem here in the U.K. Many who have qualified, are unable to continue as they find it hard to get a training contract. Thanks for the enlightening piece, I hope it opens the eyes of many a would be emigrant, not only to Canada but elsewhere in the World. -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Nuclear Threat for Goans in Gulf.
On 07/05/06, Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mario observes: I suppose the sage expert on middle-east affairs thinks that all hell will not break loose if Iran acquires a nuclear bomb and follows through on their daily threats to wipe Israel off the map. RESPONSE: I have lived in the Middle East, where it matters in Jeddah and Riyadh. My last job was as an advisor to a Saudi Prince, from the Royal House of Saud. Mario Goveia makes pronouncements, without having experience on any matter, only what the Right Wing Republicans spew, which he swallows hook, line and sinker. We are about to kick the US's greatest ally in the West - Tony Blair shortly, here in the U.K. Next it will be the turn of his beloved Bush. Both will go down ignominiously! North Korea is a bigger threat - why not knock on their door first? Double standards!!! -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Nuclear Threat for Goans in Gulf.
On 04/05/06, A. Veronica Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Iran's Nuclear Threat even for Goans working in the Gulf. Comment: First of all my commiserations to all Goans living in Kuwait and UAE. Your days are numbered! When and not if the USA decides to Bomb Iran, all hell will break loose. There are sizable Shias living in the Eastern Province ( Oil rich) of Saudi Arabia, as well as Bahrain and the UAE. I have even attended an ashura religious festival in Bahrain; whereby the Shias flagellate themselves with chains whilst thumping their chests. It is a sight to behold, they then cut themselves in the forehead with a sword, blood flows freely!. Now picture this, if they are able to go through this ritual, then they are very able and willing to sacrifice themselves for the Glory of Imam Ali. I know many Goans, have bought property in Dubai, also many like David Beckham have bought a piece on the palm island. Beckham can afford to kiss his investment goodbye, I do hope the Goans make a profit before it is too late. The situation as I see it, ( I am an expert, World renowned on Middle East Affairs) is very precarious. I have worked for a good number of years in the Middle East and know the mindset of the local people. All Foreigners will be in peril when things get out of hand, as I see it, the pot is now simmering! You have been warned. -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] The next Gandhi: I'll make India better off than Britain
On 04/05/06, Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mario observes: .. Besides, this Gandhi seems to have his head screwed on straight, when compared to his Grandfather, a hero of the freedom struggle, who then led the country down the primrose path that it is now recovering from. QUESTION: Who is this Rahul Gandhi's grandfather ? Indira Gandi's Husband was a Parsee, uninvolved in mainstream Politics. Sonia Gandhi's father is an Italian! -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Re: Cardinal Dias Deplores Anti-Christian Films
Elisabeth, . Gabe Menezes has taken me to task for not speaking out earlier. I delayed, as I was sort of shell shocked but realised that you did not attack the Faith as such; but only the actions of leaders and the administration, of the past. I also hope this satisfies Gabe, who seems to be pushing the burden on me, in his last post. Sincerely speaking! Nasci Caldeira Melbourne. RESPONSE: Taking you to task ? I have done nothing of the sort, please re-read my post...in which I mentioned that your trust in the defender of the faith was misplaced ! -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] SBI Dy Manager Philomena Lopes Found Dead in Her Bungalow
http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_disp.asp?n_id=21005n_tit=Goa-Varca%3A+SBI+Dy+Manager+Philomena+Lopes+Found+Dead+in+Her+Bungalow News -- Goa-Varca: SBI Dy Manager Philomena Lopes Found Dead in Her Bungalow Daijiworld News Network - Goa (MB) from Sanjay Borkar in Margao Margao, May 5: Fiftysix-year-old Philomena Lopes of Varca-Salcette, deputy manager of State Bank of India, Malbhat-Margao branch, was found dead in her bungalow on Thursday morning. According to the police information she appeared to have been attacked with a strong object, with strong clues of murder. She was found lying in a pool of blood in bed. When her servant Shaikh Aman came to the bungalow in the morning for work, she saw the door was closed. When the door-bell was not responded to, she informed Lopes' relatives and the door opened only find her murdered. She was alone in the bungalow as her husband was away in Mumbai on work. The sniffer dog squad was pressed into service but it didn't trace any clue. The body has been sent for the post mortem. Colva Police Inspector Nelson Albuquerque is investigating the case. -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] What is good for Gujarat, is also good for Goa?
http://www.hindu.com/2006/05/05/stories/2006050514010100.htm Demolition of religious places stayed J. Venkatesan Supreme Court fiat to Gujarat # High Court passed order without verifying newspaper report # Demolitions will have major fallout on communal harmony NEW DELHI: In a bid to defuse the situation in communal violence-hit Vadodara, the Centre on Thursday moved the Supreme Court against a Gujarat High Court order directing all municipal corporations in the State to demolish places of religious worship which caused obstruction on roads. The apex court, while permitting the Centre to prefer an appeal, stayed the May 2 High Court order and the ongoing demolitions in Vadodara and other cities. Additional Solicitor-General Gopal Subramaniam made an urgent mention in the afternoon before a Bench consisting of Justices Ruma Pal and Dalveer Bhandari. He said the High Court had taken suo motu action based on a newspaper report without verifying facts. Quoting a Home Ministry report, Mr. Subramaniam said the situation in Vadodara was tense after the violence, and the Army staged a flag march in the riot-affected areas. The Bench issued notice to the Gujarat Government and other parties concerned. The Centre filed the suo motu appeal in the Registry in the evening after obtaining the stay order. Ramifications The Centre said it was concerned at the safety of the citizens and the law and order situation. If the High Court order was not stayed immediately, it would have not only grave consequences on the law and order situation in Gujarat but also serious ramifications for the unity, integrity and security of the nation and its secular fabric. The appeal said the High Court had directed the police and other authorities to take immediate steps for the removal of encroachments by religious structures on public space without discrimination, and submit their reports. The order was passed without even conducting a prima facie examination of the veracity of the contents of the newspaper report and without any pleadings on record. Temples or mosques, demolitions would have a major fallout on communal harmony. The unauthorised constructions could be removed without offending the sensitivities of any group. The Centre made it clear that it was not justifying the existence of unauthorised constructions, more so if they were encroachments on public land. However, the removal of religious places was intrinsically sensitive, and must be subjected to scrutiny and classification before demolition. The Centre maintained that it was only interested in ensuring that the law and order situation in Gujarat did not go out of hand. In view of the extremely volatile situation in Vadodara, the High Court order should be stayed, the appeal said. -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Re: Cardinal Dias Deplores Anti-Christian Films
On 04/05/06, Elisabeth Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really love it when the Catholic Church talks about distortion of facts by evil people and how we should all pray for them. What about 2000 years of distortion by the Church. Let's talk about an evil Pope who made Mary Magdalene to be a prostitute when we now know that if the ministry of Jesus existed, she probably was a rich patron who played a dominant role. What about Gospels that existed alongside the four that we know off, like the Gospel of Thomas and the Gospel of Judas which never saw the light of day because they didn't fit in with their theology. What about scrolls found at Nag Hamadi written by Gnostics, a sect of Christianity probably persecuted and driven to extinction by mainstream Christians of the time. What about centuries of manipulation of theology by Popes and Bishops and Cardinals that conveniently created Virgin births and Holy Spirits to explain away loopholes in the gospels. RESPONSE: Madam, I am taken aback by your post but more importantly by the lack of response by the defender of faith...perhaps he has succumbed to your charms, or is seriously courting you, for future moral support reasons. Perhaps it is the writers he has problems with and not the content. He takes issue with certain posters: George, Santosh, Mervyn, Jose and Gabe. It seems that content does not matter, if presnted by the so called gentler sex! Both Nasci Caldeira and Joseph Fernandes, can now reflect on their misplaced trust in the waverer! Hope you find answers to your questions in the following :- The Da Vinci Code: The Facts Behind The Fiction by Bob Waldrep http://www.apologeticsindex.org/d50aa.html http://www.christendom-awake.org/pages/reflect-lit/davincicode.htm http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,1755189,00.html http://www.irr.org/da-vinci-code.html http://www.opusdei.us/art.php?p=7017 -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Re a crocodile burger
On 04/05/06, Nasci Caldeira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cornel, ... Beef is one or Australia's finer meat produce; and is exported in large quantities specially to Japan and SE Asia. Mouth watering! I go for Beef and Veal, most times; hate lamb, as it also smells a bit compared to Goat meat. But there is also, so called 'Kobe Beef' produced in Japan in limited quantities, is very good! This Kobe Beef is produced by feeding Cattle with imported special Hay from the USA and other nourishments like beer and Saki etc. There is a chain of restaurants in Japan which cater exclusively to Kobe Beef. Only those who visit Japan know about it. Otherwise people think that Japan has no beef of its own. Comment: Blah, blah, blah and blah... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4894952.stm 'Most expensive sandwich' on sale Hungry shoppers are being offered the chance to eat a gourmet sandwich, but the £85 price tag might be too much for some to swallow. The McDonald sandwich - named after its creator Scott McDonald, the chef at London department store Selfridges - is said to be the world's most expensive. Its cost is down to the Wagyu beef that makes up most of the filling, packed in a 24-hour fermented sour dough bread. There have been at least five advance orders placed for the 21oz (595g) meal. If you are a food lover, this represents great value for money Ewan Venters Selfridges food director Wagyu cattle are one of the most expensive breeds in the world. The Japanese cows are raised on a special diet, including beer and grain. They are supposed to be regularly massaged with sake, the Japanese rice wine, to tenderize the flesh. -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] The next Gandhi: I'll make India better off than Britain
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Re: [Goanet] Review of the Review by the Reviewer /Melinda CoutinhoPowell
On 27/04/06, Alfred de Tavares [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By the way,I marrried one of my passengers.(without harressing him) Melinda Good for you, Melinda! By name, may I guess that Mr Powell hails from the Emerald Isle? And did you woo him with an extra GUINESS? Alfred RESPONSE: Sorry, to have to correct you the Emerald Isle is Ireland. The name is Welsh in origin http://genealogy.about.com/library/surnames/p/bl_name-POWELL.htm Definition: A contraction of the Welsh Ap Howell, meaning son of Howell. The given name Howell is an anglicized form of Hywel, meaning eminent in Welsh. Surname Origin: Welsh -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Review of the Review by the Reviewer /Melinda Coutinho Powell
On 27/04/06, Melinda Powell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Elisabeth, hey ,I wasnt really upset,just felt that I had to speak up for the cause --I still have a few loyalties left though I quit 13 years ago. It is very gracious of you to apologise,now I admire you even more. I enjoy reading yr inputs,keep it up. Comment: How sweet! Now if only the rougher sex could employ this kind of conduct, we would have no problems on this forum! All we get is gratuitous insults and the questioning of peoples employment status and such like drivel. Some think themselves kings, unfortunately the King has no clothes on! On another matter; the Agony Aunt post seems to have been a hit. On my part I couldn't heed to the advice given. The dog was so far gone that the Vet and also an animal behaviourist expert, advised me to have it euthanized. This has been done. -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Review of the Review by the Reviewer
On 26/04/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gabe, ... Yet she (or you) could provide us with reviews that this book may have received in England - the home of the Goan author. Goa net could certainly add new blood and fresh ideas. Kind Regards, GL. RESPONSE: She ( Elizabeth ) Could indeed read the book and review it. I am busy with my shamba at the moment, It was neglected for sometime now and needs back breaking work on it. I think this one is for Cornel.please read and give us your opinion? I hope you read this Cornel! -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] The Pramod Mahajan I know
was the only one Shiv Sena chief Bal Thackeray would confide in regarding BJP-Sena issues. But just as Mahajan began growing in stature, criticism against him increased, more so regarding his personal life. Much speculation and gossip made the rounds. Mahajan's name was dragged into the Shivani Bhatnagar murder case. With every incident, critics would seize the opportunity and say it was the end of the political road for Mahajan. Mahajan would never seem down and out. He was protected by seniors and, as many would say, Mahajan's stars were bright. Neeta Kolhatkar is a Special Correspondent with the Daily News Analysis. -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Review of the Review by the Reviewer
On 24/04/06, Elisabeth Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As such, they are much like air stewardess' who having failed to launch their acting careers spend their life harassing passengers on discount airlines. ... Comment: Wow ! You are opinionated - we do have an ex Airline Hostess on this list; hope she has something to say about this! -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Indians apply to UK universities in caste wars
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-2148001,00.html Indians apply to UK universities in caste wars Dean Nelson, Delhi MIDDLE-CLASS students from across India are flocking to apply to British universities as plans to double the quota of places for Untouchables at Indian colleges leave them feeling squeezed out. The move will be voted on by the Delhi parliament next month. It is aimed at ending the social stain associated with appalling treatment of the low-caste Untouchables. But it has split the country and sparked fears of inter-caste violence. Trainee doctors joined other students protesting in Delhi last week. British universities expect to cash in as many higher-caste students find themselves unable to get a place at home and start to look abroad. The new rules will reserve almost half of university places for the lower castes. There is resentment that the quotas will inevitably force up entry requirements for the remaining places. The number of Indian students entering British universities rose from 16,000 to almost 18,000 last year and a further boost is expected this year as panic spreads at India's exclusive private schools. In the past six months more than 100,000 Indian pupils have contacted the British Council for advice on obtaining university places in Britain. Kabir Bedi, 17, is among those prompted to apply because of his government's plans. He says he has had offers from York, Nottingham and Bath. He would prefer to go to St Stephen's College at Delhi University but believes the minimum entrance requirement this year will be too stringent. My friends are going to have a very hard time this year and I feel angry about it, he said. Alka Malhotra, whose son is hoping for a place at one of the elite Indian institutes of technology, said too many students were competing for too few places, and this was putting both parents and pupils under intense pressure. It's a numbers game. Kids need 90% passes to apply for the best colleges, she said. The anger of higher-caste parents and their offspring is lost, however, on Bant Singh, 40, a leading campaigner for the rights of Punjab's dalits, as the Untouchables are known. I'm all for reservations in colleges and government jobs, and I'm not bothered what the middle class thinks, he said last week. One of his legs and both arms were amputated earlier this year after he was beaten with iron bars. His remaining leg is pinned together with steel rods, and his toes are black with gangrene. His crime was to campaign for justice after his 19-year-old daughter was raped by two of his landlords' sons. His fate was sealed when he refused the landlords' offer of £12,000 and a scooter to drop the charges. Dalits are the lowest of the Hindu castes and are regarded as unclean by the highest Brahmin, or priestly, caste. They are excluded from Hindu temples and banned from drinking from the same wells as higher castes. They have even been attacked for casting their shadows over Brahmins. More than 40m of India's 250m dalits are reported to work in slave conditions. Their jobs include skinning cows in tanneries, pig farming, farm labouring, rag-picking and night-soil carrying — picking up human waste and carrying it in baskets on their heads. India's constitution formally banned discrimination against dalits in 1950 and quotas were established to reserve 22% of all government jobs and university places for them. But more than half a century later violent attacks, poor access to education and healthcare and regular humiliation persist. More than 120,000 assaults on dalits were reported to the police between 2001 and 2004. Campaigners say a dalit is assaulted every two hours, while two are murdered every day. Most assaults go unreported for fear of further attack. In Mansa hospital near Patiala, Punjab, Bant Singh said he supported any reforms that would help families like his. He has eight children. None is heading for university. -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Goa's road carnage, some views...
On 23/04/06, Valmiki Faleiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Goa's road carnage, some views... By Valmiki Faleiro Death and pain on our roads is, slowly but relentlessly, raging into Goa's major tragedy. Official figures for the first quarter of 2006 are out. During the 90 days, there were, on average, a daily 10.58 *reported* road accidents, 9.23 daily casualties and 1 death a day -- 82 lives lost, and if you're a statistical purist, 1.09756 09756 09756 ... 09756 to Eternity. RESPONSE: For those who want a taste of Driving in Indiaaah! My pal Roy just sent me the URL Below:- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjrEQaG5jPM -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Zahira, BJP legislator under tax scanner
http://news.webindia123.com/news/articles/India/20060423/313971.html Zahira, BJP legislator under tax scanner Ahmedabad | April 23, 2006 1:15:22 AM IST Income tax authorities Saturday conducted searches at the residences of Zahira Sheikh, a key witness in a case of communal violence in Gujarat, and Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) legislator Madhu Srivastava following a Supreme Court directive. Income Tax department officials started searching Zahira's bank accounts and conducted raids at the houses of Srivastav and his nephew in Vadodara, about 110 km from here. While sentencing Zahira to a year in prison last month on charges of lying under oath, the apex court had asked the tax authorities in Gujarat to search her assets. Zahira, the 20-year-old witness in the case known as Best Bakery, changed her statements during hearings in the sessions court in Vadodara and later when the case was transferred to a Mumbai court, allegedly at the instance of Srivastava to shield the accused. Nine of those accused of setting the bakery on fire and killing 14 people on March 1, 2002, however, were convicted by a special court in Mumbai last month. (IANS) -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Senior BJP leader shot in India
Senior BJP leader shot in India A senior leader of India's main opposition Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) party has been shot in Mumbai (Bombay), according to police. Pramod Mahajan, BJP general secretary and a former federal minister, was allegedly shot by his brother after an altercation in a family dispute. Doctors said the condition of Mr Mahajan, 56, was quite critical following surgery lasting four hours. Indian TV channels report his brother, Praveen, has surrendered to police. Praveen's lawyer, Nandkumar Rajukar, told NDTV television his client had been suffering from some mental disorder. He is completely under depression, under mental trauma. He is not in a position to speak properly or tell exactly what exactly happened, Mr Rajukar said on television, reports the Associated Press. The bullets have damaged his liver, pancreas and small intestine resulting in massive blood loss. Dr Varma Suggestions that Praveen, 45, who is a building contractor, quarrelled with his brother over a property deal have been dismissed by police and Mr Mahajan's family. Mr Mahajan was admitted to Hinduja Hospital with injuries to his chest and stomach. Dr Varma told reporters that the surgery had been carried out to stop the bleeding from the affected organs and that the three bullets were still lodged inside the body. The bullets have damaged his liver, pancreas and small intestine resulting in massive blood loss. He is on ventilatory support and his condition is quite critical, he said. 'Domestic affair' Mr Mahajan belongs to the BJP's Generation Next - a group of relatively younger technocrat leaders who lack a grassroots political base. Mumbai Joint Commissioner of Police Aroop Patnaik said the incident happened between 0730 and 0800 (0200-0230GMT). Three shots were allegedly fired by Praveen Mahajan from his licensed revolver. Mr Mahajan's security did not prevent Praveen entering the BJP leader's 15th floor flat in Mumbai because he was his brother, added Commissioner Patnaik. He said it was a private and domestic affair. We are shocked by the news. We are praying for his speedy recovery, BJP leader Venkaiah Naidu told NDTV news channel. Story from BBC NEWS: http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/south_asia/4933102.stm Published: 2006/04/22 10:50:12 GMT (c) BBC MMVI -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England Comment: Just as well he was shot by this brother, else the BJP would have called for a bandh! _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Re: What do Christians believe?
On 21/04/06, Nasci Caldeira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Radhakrishna, By Christian God, I mean the universal God, that is believed to be a supernatural entity; not resembling animals/reptiles or other fictitious beings known to inhabit the earth. Like Elisabeth said: God has not made Man in his image! rather Man has made God in his image. I subscribe to this analysis. Nobody knows what or who 'GOD' really is! Man is awed with his limited intelligence! ... Nasci Caldeira Comment: Well its back to the drawing board for you as a Christian, Elizabeth can be forgiven for holding on to her beliefs! Genesis 1:27 God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the sky, and over the livestock, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth. -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Warring factions:The Path to Peace (humor)
On 21/04/06, Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Francis Rodrigues wrote: ADVICE TO GABE: Don jungle fatigues. Forward march, ten-hut, attention ! Circle the perimeter. Be not afraid. He will thank you. He will shake your hand :-) Mario responds: ADVICE TO FRANCIS: In the search for peace, do us all a favor and let's leave the humor to Cecil Pinto, shall we? :-)) Besides, my hand shakes are reserved for the real deal, like Gilbert Menezes, not someone masquerading in fancy dress:-)) Comment: Aha! for the cross dressing, alter ego that Mrs. Goveia delights in? -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Dr. Belinda Colaco, 32 from Goa....'Let down by UK' - foreign doctors
'Let down by UK' - foreign doctors By Dominic Casciani BBC News community affairs Hundreds of young foreign doctors have protested outside the Department of Health in London over a sudden change in visa rules which effectively bars them completing training in the NHS. The doctors, predominantly from India, say they have been betrayed by a rule change which means hospitals must give first preference to graduates from within the European Economic Area. They say thousands will be forced to leave the UK heavily in debt and with no qualifications during the summer. But the government has defended the move, saying it is protecting jobs for British graduates. Some of the doctors told their stories to the BBC. Dr Belinda Colaco, 32, from Goa, India Dr Colaco has been in the UK for approximately a year. She completed her graduate medical training in India but wanted to follow the traditional path of many of her peers and complete her final training placements in the UK. I sat the PLAB exams [the competency test for overseas doctors], passed and was allowed to come here, she said. But since I arrived I have been unemployed. I have spent so much money to come here and study and now the government has taken away our permission to complete our training as doctors. I didn't expect a guaranteed job - but I was told I would get equal opportunities to compete along with other doctors in the UK, as so many doctors from India have done all these years. By taking away my right to seek work and finish my training, they have effectively destroyed my life. I just feel utterly destroyed. Dr Colaco estimates she has spent some £5,000 to date - from preparing for the exams to gain the right to enter the UK, to writing countless applications every day of the week for posts. I borrowed a lot of money back home because I wanted to come here to get British qualifications before going into practice back home. But the key thing is that I would not have come here if we had not received the impression [from the UK medical authorities and government] that they needed us. We got that impression because they offer the Plab tests at home. Dr Sumit Reisinghaney, 28, from Bombay in India Dr Reisinghaney, based in London, graduated in India and decided to go for the opportunity of a few years' work in the NHS. I came to the UK as part of a significant investment in my career and for the opportunity to learn within the British system. Since I arrived I have had some locum work but no proper placements. I have applied for hundreds of jobs across surgery. I have applied to every area of the UK, sometimes writing 20 applications a week. The costs of doing this are extremely high. Today, with this rule change, I feel very, very cheated. We were never promised anything - nor did we think we were. But we were told that if we sat our Plab exams, passed and came to Britain, we would have the same chance as others in getting posts. The new system will prefer EU doctors over us - to me that is simply discrimination because the decisions to fill posts will not be made on merit. If I return home now this investment will have been for nothing. Had I known how difficult it was going to be, had they been clear with us, I would not have done it. Dr Nimze Gadong, Consultant Paediatrician, London Dr Gadong has spent a decade in the UK and is based in East London. He said he would not have become the doctor he is today without being allowed to study in Britain. Although not personally affected by the changes, he warns the bar on non-EU doctors will have major implications for the developing world. I came here from Nigeria through the system which has now suddenly been changed. The medicine I practice here does not just benefit children here - I have linkages with my home country in Nigeria and doctors there. The change is not only unfair to overseas doctors, it is something that we frankly would not have expected from the UK, a country that we look to. I don't think the government has thought through the implications of preventing overseas doctors from completing training in the NHS. I cannot emphasise enough the scarcity of advanced medical knowledge in developing countries. It is only by being allowed to come here to Britain to study that a lot of doctors are able to take back with them vital skills. When I was studying in Nigeria, my teachers at medical school had all spent a part of the career in Britain. Can you imagine what kind of doctor I would have become without first my teachers having come here and learning the skills they then taught to me? I really believe that for doctors in the developing world, it is essential to have the British experience, even if just for one year. I would not have become the doctor I am today without that opportunity. Story from BBC NEWS: http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/health/4929902.stm Published: 2006/04/21 12:41:16 GMT (c) BBC MMVI -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes
Re: [Goanet] 3rd victim dies:Truck driver charged with culpable homicide
On 18/04/06, Mervyn Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just want to tell you that Mervyn Lobo is a good and decent human being. Santosh, When I go for picnics, people great me by saying, Hey Mervyn, come over here. The second sentence usually is, Let me get you a beer. Mervyn3.0 RESPONSE: Mervyn you must be a good and decent man, as soon as you appear, its a beer on hand! I guess you have good social skills. There is the other end of the spectrum, some who have no social skills, what so ever, sorely lacking in tact - friends they have none! Please spare a thought for these unfortunates. -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] To the warring factions of Goannet
On 18/04/06, Elisabeth Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Firstly there seem to be a lot of warring factions on Goannet. Although, I'm sure by now loyalties have been well calcified, newcomers like me are in the dark. In the interest of newcomers, a list should be compiled and archived for quick and easy reference. Getting caught in the cross-fire and other collateral casualties can thus be avoided... Elisabeth RESPONSE: By now, with your acute analytical skills, you have figured out the protagonists. As you rightly point out, who cares what's in a name? Only one person does, although there are quite of number of recent aliases popping up recently. Not true, about being forgotten here, I still remember a 'pain in the neck', who was eventually booted out, he would continue his tirades to individuals directly, doing away with the forum. So your request for private emails could really backfire. There is one amongst us, who is known as a purveyor of profanity, directly to your inbox!. I still remember a fiery lady, long since disappeared, A Sunila Muzawara, who had such filth being sent to her privately that she unsubscribed. As far as Demanding apologies goes, it is only one, more than regular netter, who thinks the World owes him respect, demanding retractions and apologies. Most of us try and give a wide berth and try not to pull any chains, to no effect, you just pass and the dog wants to bite. We can avoid the man but the man cannot avoid us. Lastly, I like your style of writing and hope you stick around. -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Goa is where the home is
--- * G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * --- USDA certified Goa Sausages and other Goan foods can now be delivered to virtually any part of the world. http://www.goanfoods.com --- http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1491144.cms Goa is where the home is TIMES NEWS NETWORK[ SATURDAY, APRIL 15, 2006 12:00:20 AM] PANAJI: If you're planning to invest in property or purchase a holiday home, then consider Goa. Nature is doing for the state, what IT did for Bangalore and Hyderabad — send land prices rocketing through the roof! The past year has seen land value in the capital Panaji rise from Rs 14 per sq mt to Rs 21 per sq mt. Other places across the state are not far behind with a 20% increase in land prices which is expected to further rise at an increasing rate for the next ten years. However this time it's not the coastal belt with a good sea view but inner lands overlooking rivers or valley that's making the rounds. This coupled with their proximity to the city acts as icing on the cake. Though Goa has always been identified with rustic cottages set amidst Portuguese décor; now it's the ultra-modern buildings with amenities like gymnasium, swimming pool, jogging track, club house coupled with intercom facility and ample security that's in demand. Market analysts call this the 'migration perception' wherein nuclear families who work mostly through the internet will shift from congested cities to smaller locales that provide basic modern services available at metros. Besides, the state government's plans to open SEZs and IT parks are expected to bring in large numbers of working population from outside to Goa; thereby fuelling an economic boom in the state. Goa is also seeing the entry of major real estate develops like Dynamix Group, Tata Housing Development, DLF, Parasvanath builders and Gera Developments for the first time investing in the state. Adds Kumar Gera, MD, Gera Developments, which is set to build the state's first Intelliplex (Intelligent Building), Goa has a significant high income group that we are targeting and with IT land prices are bound to increase. Another significant reason for this price hike is the trend of buying a second home that's meant only for use during vacations. Real estate builders like TATA Homes and Aldeia de Goa also known as 'the seaside hill station' cater to this holiday home concept that provides a picturesque view while positioned close to a city and other establishments like a hospital. High net worth individuals, including bollywood superstar Shahrukh Khan, major businessmen and also NRIs especially from Europe are lapping up such locales; for them Goa provides the right mix of entertainment and solitude that helps one rejuvenate! Comment: I wonder where the writer got the prices from? 14 tp 21 Rs a square metre, now that would be a steal! -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Oracle predicts India's rise on the software horizon
--- * G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * --- USDA certified Goa Sausages and other Goan foods can now be delivered to virtually any part of the world. http://www.goanfoods.com --- http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,5-2138522,00.html Oracle predicts India's rise on the software horizon By Joe Bolger The United States is about to be overtaken SILICON VALLEY is in danger of losing its crown as home of the technology start-up, according to one of the software industry's leading executives. Jeff Henley, chairman of Oracle, the world's second-largest software group, believes that India is on course to become the new hotbed of innovation. Mr Henley says that America's strong track record as a developer of software will weaken in the next few years, amid burgeoning activity in Indian cities such as Bombay, Bangalore and Madras. The US has been a big developer of software . . . but that's going to change over time, he said. We're going to see more and more [technology] from Indian companies. Mr Henley said that the growing prominence of India would have an impact on where Oracle, which has made a string of multibillion-dollar acquisitions in recent years, would seek new acquisition targets. We'll buy from wherever the product is. It doesn't have to be in the US, he said. Last August Oracle bought a 41 per cent stake in i-flex, an Indian provider of software to the financial services industry. It has since made increases to its stake in the company, but Mr Henley said that it had no intention of taking full control. Last year Oracle also took control of PeopleSoft, a rival business software group, for $10.5 billion. It also agreed to pay $5.8 billion for Siebel, another rival. Last week it agreed a $220 million (£124 million) deal to buy Portal Software, which makes billing software. International technology groups are showing a growing interest in buying Indian groups. Last week EDS, the American IT services group, made a $380 million offer to take a 52 per cent stake in MphasiS, a Bangalore-based services group. Indian IT groups, the biggest of which have excelled in delivering basic data entry and administration services, increasingly are moving into more demanding and profitable areas of work, including high-level software development. Universities across Asia are turning out well-educated engineers and science graduates, helping to meet the growing demands of the industry. Despite high wage inflation, Indian workers still command salaries that are, in many cases, barely 30 per cent of the equivalent salaries in developed economies. Indian companies have also benefited from India-born workers returning home from jobs in America and elsewhere. -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Goa's appalling Road Sense! (re Mario's comments)
--- * G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * --- USDA certified Goa Sausages and other Goan foods can now be delivered to virtually any part of the world. http://www.goanfoods.com --- On 14/04/06, Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mario clarifies: Goanetters may be confused by these cryptic comments by Gabe and Santosh, here seen conspiring to deflect attention from what was really said. RESPONSE: Not content with abusing me, or abusing others who may disagree with 'anyone'. This uncontrolled venom spitting continues unabated. This is a broken record 'anyone' is humouring himself! Can so many of us be wrong? In truth it is :- In alio pediculum, in te ricinum non vides -- TUMCHER AXIRVAD ASSUM; DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Easter: Friends Adversaries
--- * G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * --- USDA certified Goa Sausages and other Goan foods can now be delivered to virtually any part of the world. http://www.goanfoods.com --- On 15/04/06, Francis Rodrigues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... I ignore him there too, because I am an implacable foe. In all of this, Gabe Menezes has been a voice of reason and sanity on Goanet, whose contributions continue to inspire and encourage, that there is still hope yet for this particular forum ! I can only wish his detractor the consolation of the resurrection at this Eastertime, for as far as I am concerned, Aluta continua ! Francis. RESPONSE: Thank you for your kind views. Since it is Easter and a time for glorious tidings, I withdraw my statement made in Latin, to those of you who understood it. To the rest where ignorance is bliss tis folly to be wise! Happy Easter to one and all! -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Goa's appalling Road Sense! (re Mario's comments)
--- * G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * --- USDA certified Goa Sausages and other Goan foods can now be delivered to virtually any part of the world. http://www.goanfoods.com --- On 15/04/06, Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As all regular Goanetters know quite well Gabe is a good and decent human being. Cheers, Santosh RESPONSE: Thank you for that nice comment, I feel much nicer now; the non stop attack was getting me down :-(( -- TUMCHER AXIRVAD ASSUM; DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England P.S. Illegitimis nil carborundum _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] On using aliases
--- * G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * --- USDA certified Goa Sausages and other Goan foods can now be delivered to virtually any part of the world. http://www.goanfoods.com --- For the record, Joe UK was a member of this forum, far longer than 'one' who questions his identity. Godiva and the recent one offs: Agnelo Pinto @ yahoo and Katrina sublime @ Yahoo, could well be one and the same person. People on and ego trip, massaging themselves... -- TUMCHER AXIRVAD ASSUM; DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Happy Glorious Easter
--- * G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * --- USDA certified Goa Sausages and other Goan foods can now be delivered to virtually any part of the world. http://www.goanfoods.com --- Gabe Menezes has sent you an ecard to view please click on to the URL http://www.dayspring.com/ecards/card.asp?ID=02f7ce61-gag Blessings to you from the folks at DaySpring Cards, the world's leading Christian greeting card company. http://www.dayspring.com -- DIE DULCI FREURE, DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Indian ‘nation’ of commerce
and opened, the volatility of the relationship will built the boil that one day will reach maximum growth and burst for the worst. Nature has such demands that any new birth is bought by spilling human blood. The author is a renown with an international acclaim. He holds Doctorate in African Literature and Political Philosophy. -- TUMCHER AXIRVAD ASSUM; DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Setting the standard on posts (2)
--- * G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * --- USDA certified Goa Sausages and other Goan foods can now be delivered to virtually any part of the world. http://www.goanfoods.com --- On 12/04/06, Elisabeth Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear GL, Are you sure you're not sucking up to me? :))) What is a hutton? Hey, I'm just trying to reign in my inner Ayatollah. One of these days, you'll see a revolution around here :)) Elisabeth E F HUTTON. An entrepreneurial man, mucho dinero, founded the Broking business EF HUTTON. -- TUMCHER AXIRVAD ASSUM; DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Goa's appalling Road Sense! (re Mario's comments)
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sidB6 -- On 12/04/06, Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gabe and other Goanetters who are concerned about this issue, Is this what you were talking about? Do you understand what this guy is trying to say? Cheers, Santosh --- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mario clarifies: Regular Goanetters will surely recognize the comments above as an excellent example of the pot calling the kettle black. -- RESPONSE: I have given up trying to figure out the mindset. I believe the Latin used by Francis Rodrigues, previously, says it all? TUMCHER AXIRVAD ASSUM; DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] The end of Mopa..writing on the wall! The man has spoken..
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sidB6 -- http://oheraldo.in/node/12184 Babush joins anti-Mopa bandwagon BY HERALD REPORTER PANJIM, APRIL 10 -- His dream of becoming president of Goa Pradesh Congress Committee (GPCC) may not have been fulfilled so far. But he is trying to embark on a new mission, to resolve the airport imbroglio. Town Country Planning Minister, Babush Monserrate has overnight become a vocal protagonist of 'No Mopa, only Dabolim'. The issue was discussed informally in his chamber at the new Secretariat in Porvorim with South Goa MP Churchill Alemao, campaigner for the anti-Mopa agitation, and pro-Mopa BJP legislator from Dhargalim constituency in Pernem, Babu Azgaonker. He said he would talk to all ministers as well as the chief minister with the objective of ending the impasse and strongly felt that a Cabinet decision be taken to scrap the proposed airport at Mopa. Monserrate however doesn't agree with Churchill's mode of agitation. He said being a member of the PM appointed committee headed by the CM on airport in Goa, Churchill should have discussed the issue in detail at the committee level before holding public meetings. Monserrate's contention is that there is no opposition to Dabolim airport. Even supporters of Mopa are not opposed to Dabolim. He says some years ago when the Centre felt that Goa should have a new international airport, site selection was set in motion and two sites – Quitol in South and Mopa in Pernem were short listed of which the latter was selected. He argues by saying that people of Mopa or Pernem taluka had not demanded that Mopa should be the site for the international airport. When it was pointed out that land might be a major problem for expansion of Dabolim airport, Monserrate said the Union Defence minister Pranab Mukherjee had earlier assured that land would be provided. mentioned to the Goa delegation two months ago that land would be provided in Dabolim for expansion. Land could also be taken from a private firm, he said. -- TUMCHER AXIRVAD ASSUM; DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
