[Goanet-News] Goanet Reader: Exile, and the Goan writer... a tango made for each other? (Victor Rangel-Ribeiro, in Ekvott!)
EXILE, AND THE GOAN WRITER: A TANGO MADE FOR EACH OTHER? By Victor Rangel-Ribeiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is relevant to the theme of this essay that the very first novel by a Goan to see the light of day was written and published when the author was overseas and far from home. Francisco Luis Gomes pulled off this feat in Lisbon in 1866, while representing our forefathers in the Portuguese parliament. Since world literature was already two millennia old by then, that was a very late start for Goan literature; it could therefore be described as one tiny step for mankind, but a truly giant step for our people. Francisco Luis Gomes was only thirty-eight years old when Os Brahamanes was published; its success would surely have led him to write other novels, had he not died aboard ship on his way back to Goa, just two years later. The historical importance of Os Brahamanes was underscored recently by Everton V. Machado, a Brazilian academic and student of comparative literature. It is not only the first Indian novel to question British colonialism, he wrote. It is perhaps the one novel that, for the first time in the history of modern literature, deals with the dynamics of a colonial enterprise, the first fictional work that attacks the Hindu caste system, the first and the most important novel of the literature of the Indian and the Portuguese themselves, the literature written in Portuguese in India. In stressing the fact that Os Brahamanes was the first Indian novel to question British colonialism, Everton Machado ignores the fact that Gomes was also obliquely attacking Portuguese colonialism in Goa, but had to choose his words very carefully. In the Lisbon of 1866 he could safely write that impartial men, those who are inspired by justice and not by racial prejudice, want India to be ruled by Indians, when his real message was that impartial men inspired by justice would also want Goa to be ruled by Goans. In the Lisbon of that period, he could not possibly write that. Francisco Luis Gomes' success found no immediate successors; ninety years elapsed before another comparable novel emerged: Lambert Mascarenhas' Sorrowing Lies my Land. This time, however, there was no fudging: India had gained its independence, and it was Portuguese colonialism that was being challenged. Since Lambert lived in Bombay in 1956 and the novel was published there, and Goa was still under Portuguese rule at that time, we can consider his novel too to have been part of Goan diasporan literature. Surprisingly, another challenge to Portuguese colonialism came from within Portugal itself, and that was Orlando da Costa's O Signo de Ira. It must have taken a great deal of courage for Orlando to have written such a pro-Goa book under the noses of Salazar and his PIDE, especially since he had been arrested three times between 1950 and 1953; and jailed on the last occasion from October 1952 to March 1953. For his literary achievement, Portugal's Academy of Sciences awarded him the Ricardo Malheiros Prize; for his temerity he brought down on himself the wrath of Salazar, and the book was banned. Ironically, it quickly sold out; and in a further affront to the PIDE it was republished in 1962 and again ten years later. This yearning for freedom in the land of our birth is a thread shared by others in Goan expatriate literature. The winds of freedom that first swirled in Os Brahamanes and that blew again through Lambert's Sorrowing Lies My Land and Orlando's O Signo de Ira are to be found also in the novels that came after. In my own novel Tivolem, which is set in 1933, they blow strongly in British India but are barely beginning to stir in Goa; they approach monsoon force in Lino Leitao's The Gift of the Holy Cross and Ben Antao's Blood and Nemesis, both of which deal with a later period in Goa's history. Yet, the universal human yearning for freedom was only one motivating factor leading us to write. The very fact that we found ourselves in voluntary exile in a foreign land may have been another. It certainly motivated Orlando da Costa. Speaking to Fr. Eufemiano Miranda in December 1988, he had this to say about O Signo de Ira: My first novel was written, above all, for what might be called civic reasons, because it really was the call of Goa and its people that had the strongest and most decisive effect on me. Did the distance, the being away or absence for over ten years, coupled with knowing that things are carrying on over there, make me feel guilty? I don't know, but it did stir a sort of nationalism, a need to be involved, to stand up for 'us', a need not to feel uprooted. I truly wanted to write a novel about Goa that would contain all the dignity I could give it. Peter Nazareth, author of two novels that include Goan characters in an African setting, puts it this way: The paradox for writers is that in order to contribute to their country, they need to go outside.
[Goanet] Invasion That Fizzled
Invasion That Fizzled Sticky monsoon rains pelted the little band of marchers as they sloshed up the mud-laden roads toward the border of Goa. The long-heralded invasion was on. In the lush, Rhode Island-sized Portuguese colony on the west coast of India, 4,000 African troops and 1,000 Goan police waited, guns loaded and aimed. In far-off Lisbon, frantic crowds prayed in churches and demonstrated in the streets against the coming onslaught on Portugal's ancient colony. As the group of invaders from India—19 Goans carrying nothing but umbrellas and little cloth bags, and led by a 26-year-old man trained for the priesthood—made their determined way along the road, Indian policemen saluted the Indian tricolored flag which they carried, for the day was India's Independence Day. Finally the marchers reached a sagging chain across their path. Behind the chain stood seven Goan policemen and a small dog. Undaunted, the little band stepped over the chain and tramped into Goa. The Goan cops locked up their guardhouse, slung their rifles on their shoulders and trudged along after the liberators. The dog followed. Soaked to the skin, the strange procession walked on through the deserted countryside (the Portuguese had evacuated people from villages near the border, to prevent demonstrations). The weary cops were lagging behind when suddenly the marchers dived off the road into the thick jungle. Baffled, the cops argued among themselves, and decided not to give chase. A few miles north, two other groups of peaceful invaders, one with 20 marchers, another with ten, all Goans, walked calmly into the little colony. Back at his headquarters in the Indian town of Karwar, 46-year-old Peter Alvares. president of the National Congress of Goa and mastermind of the unarmed invasion to liberate the colony, insisted that all this was according to plan: he had instructed his liberators to scatter among the people of Goa and preach freedom until captured. Several hundred miles away, at the border of Portugal's colony of Daman, 1,000 Indian nationalists gathered. But Indian Frontier Security Police barred their way: Prime Minister Nehru had decreed that only Goans could participate in the movement for freedom. Perhaps Nehru had heard that Communists had infiltrated this crowd of Indian nationalists, hoping to set themselves up as rulers of Daman. By the end of the day, Portugal's flag still flew over Goa. Earlier in the week Nehru had announced:The Indian Army could take Goa in a trice if it wanted to. but we do not want to. Apparently, having heard from the rest of the world, Nehru decided that now was the wrong moment for swallowing up Goa. TIME / 23 August 1954 (repeat 1954) archived issued. Can someone shed some light on Peter Alvares, president of the National Congress of Goa ? - Forwarded by gaspar.almeida, www.goa-world.com
[Goanet] Daily Grook #185
DAILY GROOK #185 ___ OLYMPIC BIOPIC ___ by Francis Rodrigues every olympian geezer knows that the way best, to a shapely fortune is a well-balanced gym-nest! LATEST 2008 CONVENTION PICS: http://2008goanconvention.com/ NEW ALBUMS UPDATED DAILY ___ _
Re: [Goanet] Does? Do? Why?
When you are checking that community you could also check the following profile (link below.) It is obviously a fake but if this person is a GBA supporter then it would be good news for Goa. http://www.orkut.co.in/Profile.aspx?uid=2915327804482595032 regards Rishi Mulgaonkar (Mumbai)
Re: [Goanet] From Lisbon to Toronto Part I
Dear Gabe, Let me repeat my incomplete message, and add to it: Dear Gabe, To the best of my knowledge, no law governs who may or may not organize a Goan Convention. I did not question Casa de Goa's authority to organize it in Lisbon; I just went, participated, and contributed to the best of my ability. In Lisbon, when Kevin mooted the idea of holding it in Toronto this year, enthusiasm was running high, and many people thought it was an excellent idea. I thought so too. In Toronto, Renee announced his intention to hold it in London next year. Cornel takes umbrage at it, and perhaps some others will. Commissioner Faleiro has apparently announced that it will be held in Australia. He certainly has the right to hold a convention wherever he feels it should be held, but the Goan International Convention is not a Government enterprise, even though the Goa Government does support it with funds whenever it is held; and it should never be an official Government enterprise, because then it will be politicized and eventually wither on the vine. Very best regards, Victor
[Goanet] 2008 Toronto Convention
{Re: A short perspective
by Mrs. Acaria Almeida, Treasurer, Goa Sudharop...My family and I left with
more friends and ideas from this Convention. Upon our return to California, Goa
Sudharop has committed to the following in addition to its other volunteer
work:}
It is apparent that much good has come out of the convention and more inroads
have been made towards awareness of the destruction that is happening in our
ancestral land. People with intelligence and true charitable hearts are already
asking how can I help? Why is Goa so important to my grandparents, parents or
me ?
Several positive comments and action lists have been put in place by Goa
Sudharop, and have germinated directly from the convention. With like-minded
individuals, our community can be one of solidarity and progress. It was
Kevin's and my dream, with the help of our committee, to reach the small
percentage in our community that cared . it appears that our vision has
become a reality. Thank you Goa Sudharop
Lisette Saldanha
[Goanet] A prostitute preaching chastity to a legitimately happy family? ; -)
Dear me! It was better than pulp fiction ... and in whole lot worse English language usage than Dan Brown's Da Vinci Code ! Oh, yes! I am referring to the former Editor of GT-turned- PR agent of a family with intersets in hospitality, industry, mining and undermining NGO-CSO-CBO activity that is adverse to the Mango Man Sorkar. I am speaking of Sujay Gupta, who lives in what was earlier El Gazelle, behind the Directorate of Health Services at Campal, just across the road from the house of the GBA Secretary and not too far away from that of the immediate past GBA Secretary, whose presentation to the GBA finds reference in Sujay's article and space in OPinionatED by sheer coincidence! ;-) Another coincidence was Sujay Gupta's own OPinionatED [in every sense of the word] piece on 08 August got published again on 11 August, 2008 [yesterday] NGOs: Where do you get your money from? He hits out at Architect Gerard D' Cunha and cartoonist Mario Miranda, [without names as cowards are wont to do] in the Reis Magos Fort restoration and adaptive re-use with the Directorate of Archives Archeology, incidentally a Babush Monserrate Dept now. Forgotten is Sujay's undisputed documentary evidence that the TRIMURTHI Mining Services, Aquem-Margao, had paid Rs.11.80 lakhs to the Varchavadda Kala ani Sanskruthi Kruthi Sangh, Advalpal, that is campaining against mining in that village. How could you forget that Sujay-da? In any case, Venita Coelho from Moira [of Jaasi Jaisi Koyee Nahin? fame, besides other creative productions] read the article and laughed out so loud that neighbours asked what was funny! ;-) I had a good laugh too. Rajan Narayan has quite a few followers in the GBA peripherals and GT newsdesk for his Internutters and Internet Tigers ... who are merilly at the internet like I am now ... this ex-Editor seems to have lunged headlong in this etheral world of make-believe. That is what PR [other alphabets as per your choice to complete the word/s] is all about, isn't it?? If I remember right, Oscar resigned because the GBA Core Group could not arrive at a consensus in supporting one of the four or more alternate PARTICIPATORY PLANNING processes that were presented to the GBA from 13 October, 2007 to 28 July, 2008. That the GBA has not been even formally asked tomake such a proposal to the Task Force is another issue. That the Task Force has not bothered to reply to GBA's letter dated 26 May, 2008 is a different matter. There is no dispute on the fact that the Task Force has not even issued the BIKINI Minutes [revealing everything except the essentials!] since 01 April, 2008. The bikini minutes of the Task Force meetings till end March were issued along with the Interim Report [Soter D'Souza's half hour presentation has been reduced to three lines ...that say nothing about Article 243 ZD or the 73rd and 74th Amendments of 1992, that was the main thrust of the presentation and a CD of which was presented along with a hard copy to the Task Force. I know because I was there to make the next presentation on behlf of the Botanical Society of Goa ...and received half page attention in the Appendix to the Interim Report!]. So from where does the allegation that Oscar was forced out come into Sujay's head? Oscar, to the best of my knowledge, has NEVER made such an allegation. He may have abused us and called us names ... apologised for that like a gentleman, too... but I do not remember him telling such a lie. Why is Sujay lying? Who is paying for him to lie so prone and prostrate? In the meanwhile there is a ridiculous claim in one newspaper today that ALL the Taluka Coordinator of GBA. I WISH THE NEWSPAPER HAD CROSS CHECKED WITH SOMEONE else IN THE GBA, if it did not trust me [I am just a weekly columnist/calumnist in that newspaper]. Why simply allege that Sabina Martins chaired a meeting when NO meeting of the GBA took place. Only Dilip Prabhudesai,Serafino Cotta [both Salcete taluka], Mohandas Lolayemkar [Canacona] and Pradeep Kakodkar [Sanguem?] were present for the presentation by Ritu Prasad and Pravin Sabnis on TCP [Amendment] Act, 2008 and discussion on it. Even Nityanand Naik and Francis Fernandes [Ponda], Minguelinho Mascarenhas and others who attended the meeting on 09 June, 2008 at BPS Club , when four models of Participatory Planning were presented, were NOT to be seen. Perhaps, the sudden switching off of the lights aka power failure during the commotion reported in the newspaper [with yours sincerely as the target that had persons milling around him like the NSG around the Prime Minister or Goa Police around our local stalwarts] dimmed my view of the Konkani Basha Mandal [the venue, not the organisation led by Prashant Naik, General Secretary of the UGDP, who had to leave the GBA because of its APOLITICAL nature. This is apparently not a probelem with the KBM or with the YUVA de GOA in January, 2007 at Lohia Maidan, Margao, as it allegedly was on 29 December, 2007, when a group of
Re: [Goanet] From Lisbon to Toronto Part I
2008/8/12 Victor Rangel-Ribeiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dear Gabe, Let me repeat my incomplete message, and add to it: Dear Gabe, To the best of my knowledge, no law governs who may or may not organize a Goan Convention. I did not question Casa de Goa's authority to organize it in Lisbon; I just went, participated, and contributed to the best of my ability. In Lisbon, when Kevin mooted the idea of holding it in Toronto this year, enthusiasm was running high, and many people thought it was an excellent idea. I thought so too. In Toronto, Renee announced his intention to hold it in London next year. Cornel takes umbrage at it, and perhaps some others will. Commissioner Faleiro has apparently announced that it will be held in Australia. He certainly has the right to hold a convention wherever he feels it should be held, but the Goan International Convention is not a Government enterprise, even though the Goa Government does support it with funds whenever it is held; and it should never be an official Government enterprise, because then it will be politicized and eventually wither on the vine. Very best regards, Victor Dear Victor, Thank you, for taking the time and effort to respond to my question. Take care. -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London.
[Goanet] OBITUARY - Lydia Fernandes (Mumbai/Aldona-Goa)
OBITUARY Lydia Fernandes (58), wife of RIOROSA (Rosario Fernandes) Famous Goan Singer, Composer, Writer and Artist of Aldona, Goa and Mother of Leeanne, Lloyd, Lester expired on Monday, August 11, 2008 due to ill health at Hinduja Hospital Mumbai. Funeral cortege leaves residence at 10.00 am on Wednesday, August 13 for Mass at Good Shepherd Church, Four Bungalows, Andheri West, Mumbai and burial at Oshiwara Cemetry, Mumbai. Residence: 104/A Sai Sadan, Ratan Nagar, Four Bungalows, Andheri West Contact: 022-26374479, 9867329584 Eternal Peace grant Unto her Oh Lord. And let Perpetual Light shine Upon her. May her Soul Rest in peace.
[Goanet] Remembering great works of Goan greats
Dears, Today is the birthday of Dr. Heman Yeshwant Karapurkar and the death anniversary of Bhausaheb Dayanand Balkrishna Bandodkar. If I remember right, Dr. H. Y. Karapurkar is 73 and batting towards the century with singles. In his heyday, he hit sixes and fours. I had heard my father speak glowingly about Dr. H.Y.Karapurkar's father, Mr. Yeshwant Karapurkar, Deputy Director of Agriculture, in the context of a plant exhibition in what was known as Fomento and now is known as the Duler Farm, bang opposite our home in Mapusa. My father was a career educationist and a hobby farmer who had 40 heads of cattle and a few thousand square metres of paddy fields under his personal supervision. The other fields were all over Bardez and Tiswadi, mostly looked after by loyal mundkars. In 1967, the agriculture department introduced the Green Revolution variety of Taichung Native -1 rice and we ate gooey rice for a season. My father won prizes for coconuts in that exhibition in the early 1960s when I was knee high to a grasshopper that Cecil wrote about. I met Dr. H.Y. Karapurkar for the first time in the chamber of the Director of Agriculture on 4th Floor Vidyut Bhavan, Panaji, in August 1978. No I was not invited for his birthday celebrations, I was summoned to receive the recommendation of my nomination to the University of Agricultural Sciences at Bangalore [now Bengalooru, the land of beans] for my undergraduate course in agriculture. I received the letter, thanked him for it and went off to book my ticket to Bangalore with two classmates in St. Xavier's College, Mapusa. We went by ourselves a few days later. No parents or elders to accompany us. I did not have the occasion to meet Dr. Karapurkar during the four years of study in Bangalore. On my return to Goa, I bumped into him in Panaji one day. As per the upbringing we received at home and school, I wished him. He was a well known person. I was shocked by his response, Good evening Braganza We had met briefly just once a full four years ago . and he remembered my surname! It was not a common surname either. Later, I learnt that Dr.Karapurkar's memory for names and statistics was a legend. Dr. Karapurkar has been known to pick up a file and go directly to the CM and get it approved and sent down to the concerned ministers and Secretaries and the under-secretaries for concurrence with appropriate financial and administrative sanctions. What had to be done quick he got done quickly. What could wait, went throrough the normal process that means different things to different proposals. I learnt first hand that Dr. Karapurkar knew his officers, subordinate staff and farmers by name. This is no mean feat when the officers and staff are spread over ten zonal offices in eleven talukas [and till 1987 also Daman and Diu]. He knew where they were from, where they lived and whether they were doing work or just employed in a job. One anecdote that I heard of him [though not confirmed] is about a staff member who often availed of 45 days leave that one was eligible in case of a miscarriage. When the lady in question was about 50 years old, he is supposed to have written in the file Please verify through medical officer, the applicant must have reached menopause. ;-) He was right. He had prevented miscarriage of justice. In 1990, I returned after doing my M. Sc.[Agri] in Horticulture and was posted in Mapusa, next door to home. There was a request for deputing an officer to Goa University to serve as the first Garden Superintendent. The rank of Junior Class A Gazetted and the salary was that of an Assistant Director of Agriculture. Naturally, almost everyone with an M.Sc. [Agri] wanted to go. I was selected by Dr. H.Y.Karapurkar and Dr. S.K.Gandhe, the then Registrar of Goa University and Special Secretary to CM of Goa. Friction had started between the all-powerful Registrar and the new Vice-Chancellor, Dr. Padmakar Dubhashi. Said Dr. Gandhe, If he knows I have selected Braganza, he will reject him. Let us send him two names. He will make the same choice as us. Dr. P.R.Dubhashi had me interviewed by a panel of three persons, including Dr. Abraham of GMC, Dr. Gandhe and himself. He made a choice that Dr. Gandhe had predicted and Dr. Karapurkar had agreed. Dr. Karapurkar also provided me with all the backing to make my stint successful at the Goa University. I never felt alone. At the end of my extended two year deputation, Dr. Dubhashi did not want to relieve me. I wanted to work with Dr. Heman [he deserves that name He Man] Karapurkar before he retired in August, 1993. There were officers in the Dept. who did not want me to come back till there was a clear vacancy, as anew officer had been adjusted against my vacant post. Since I repatriated [posting in the Goa University was on foreign service basis whatever that means] against their wishes, I was posted at Ela Farm for one day and two holidays and then shunted off to Ponda to work under Mr.Satish Tendulkar, the
[Goanet] Airport Bomb Scare (By Remo Fernandes, The Navhind Times)
Samir Kelekar wrote: Having said that, Remo has a point if only six minutes had passed and the cops decided to tow away his car. Since he says that the airport was practically empty and the officer might have overheard his fight and did it, that could be a possibility. But here we have Remo's version against the cops's and won't know what to believe. Finally, one point I agree with --- we need to have konkani speaking people at the Dabolim airport. Anyone posted on the airport, if he/she does not know konkani, needs to be trained to speak elementary konkani. -- My neighbour works at the Airport and I got a first hand report from him. He told me, quite clearly, that this is another untruth that is being peddled by Remo. Remo parked his car in a No Parking area where there is a No Parking Signboard placed prominently. There is no such rule that permits a Car to be parked for 10 minutes as Remo tries to falsely claim. The Airport authorities were perfectly right in acting in the way they did, from the security point of view. I said it earlier and I will say it again. We all make mistakes and Remo made one too. It wasn't such a big crime. The Newspapers reported it because Remo, being one of the top Goan Artists, was big news. Newspapers periodically do report stuff about celebrities and their lifestyles, sometimes positively, at times negatively. Remo should have taken this in his stride. However, Remo goofed badly with his subsequent conduct. The justification he tried to give, by raking up all kinds of red herrings, was silly and disgraceful, and in no way jibing with his celebrity/ activist status. Even Elvis Presley would not have behaved in this fashion. The Constitution of our Country is built on the premise of Equality before the law. Why did Remo expect to get preferential treatment? And why is Remo bringing up all these issues now? Is this the first time Remo has been to the Airport and has had to converse in a language other than Konkani? And the nest time he goes to Kerala for a show, will he learn Malayalam to converse with the authorities at that Airport? Can't everyone clearly see the obvious? Not once, prior to this incident, did he have problems with the Airport Personnel for the language that they converse in. Is he now, therefore, not using this as an excuse to justify his own indiscretion? Why are people falling for Remo's baloney! Cheers Sandeep
Re: [Goanet] Airport Bomb Scare (By Remo Fernandes, The Navhind Times)
2008/8/12 Sandeep Heble [EMAIL PROTECTED]: My neighbour works at the Airport and I got a first hand report from him. He told me, quite clearly, that this is another untruth that is being peddled by Remo. - - - - - Even Elvis Presley would not have behaved in this fashion. ...Why are people falling for Remo's baloney! Cheers Sandeep RESPONSE: The King would not have bothered - he would have been chauffeur driven and escorted by a handful of minders. Even in death the King grossed last year USD49 Million. http://www.forbes.com/2007/10/26/top-dead-celebrity-biz-media-deadcelebs07-cz_lg_1029celeb.html -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London.
[Goanet] Airport Bomb Scare (By Remo Fernandes, The Navhind Times)
Hi Sandeep Let us give credit to where Remo is right, and oppose where Remo is wrong. Surely, Remo wronged in parking his car or behaving against the law. In fact, it is exactly like a terrorist's behaviour. A typical terrorist would park his car outside the airport, then come in and create confusion to divert the attention and let the bomb-laden car blast off. Remo is lucky he wasn't arrested. But Remo is right about the konkani-speaking thing. I am not saying that the airport personnel should only speak konkani. But they should know konkani, being the local language. Same I expect in Kerala --- that is they should know Mallyalam. It is not that others have to speak Mallyalam when they go to Kerala airport. Similarly, one of the languages of announcements of flight departures/arrivals at Dabolim should be konkani. I peronally have been feeling this for a long time; I have even posted this on forums sometimes. It is time we fight for this. Again, let me say that Remo was wrong on many quarters, but not this one. regards, Samir
Re: [Goanet] Of Crabs and Goans
Hi Mario, Roland and others who may have commented on the perennial topic of the Goans and the crab mentality. Perhaps, I am one of the few who is highly sceptical of this supposed 'syndrome'. Increasingly, more and more people are involved in the process of democratisation and professionalisation within societies. Thus, the evaluation of a person's worth is undertaken by peers within professions, and also by the wider public that has phenomenal access to the media through the use of transparent yardsticks, and not by the layman with perhaps an uninformed and narrow agenda. Today, it is the wider knowledge-based and highly consumerist global community that determines a person's worth and not some in a tiny parochial community trying to 'pull others down' because of some absurd notion of envy in our open societies. These societies are predicated largely on individual endeavour, achievement and success and negligibly on former assumed or real background 'pedigree' any more. Of course, outside occupations and professions, there will be an opportunity to make judgements about personal integrity, judgement and worth but there is a diminished opportunity for one 'crab' to belittle another! This is especially true when a small community like the Goan community counts for less and less in the wider diverse world community of which we are all members. In short, the 'crab mentality' may have been around in the past. Today, it hardly matters at all outside parochial confines and could not be revived, with any effect, even if we tried hard to do so! Just some very quick thoughts. Cornel DaCosta --- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The crab mentality is like obscenity. It's hard to define precisely to an absolute legal standard because standards of morality vary from place to place, but most of us can recognize it when we see it.
Re: [Goanet] Of Crabs and Goans - Goemcheo Kulleo
Of Crabs and GoansGoemcheo Kulleo Below are the lyrics of the Konkani song Goemcho Kulleo sung by Felix Dias in 90's for Neves Oliveras Album 'Kuwaitche Dinar'. I am not sure if this story is true but this is the nature of Goans mostly outside Goa. Translations in English are provided with assistance from Venantius Pinto. The song is on audio cassette and you can listen here: http://ishare.rediff.com/filemusic-Goemcheo-Kulleo-id-404397.php Goemcheo Kulleo By Felix Dias Aslem khoim ek kulleamchem exhibition vhodlem, There was presumbaly a large exhibition of crabs, Akhea Bharatant oslem hem poilech pautti ghodlem This happend for the first time in the whole of Bharat Scientistank vhodle vhodle amontron tannim dadlem Reputed scientists were sent invitations Amerikak than dog Amerikan scientistank apoun adlem From America, two scientists were invited to attend Exhitbitionak kulleo khoimcheo, barik motteo Bombaichem In the exhibition were crabs, tiny and large ones from Bombay, Kerala Gujrat ani Madras sabar sabar ganvcheo, From Kerala, Gujrat, Madras among several other states Andaman Nicobar zuemcheo, Ganga Jamuna noimcheo From the Andaman Nicobar Islands, and the Ganga Jumuna rivers Tea bhair kulleo tannim addlelo goemcheo Besides those they brought crabs from Goa Kulleo teo ek ek korun, vochot mhunnon bhair sorun, To prevent the crabs, one at a time going away Ek ek ganvcheo dovrun, ek ek aidonant borun, were separated by state and each, kept in a vessel Kulleank teo boreo korun, bond ke'leo dampun dovrun The crabs were well displayed in their enclosures Soddun sogleank Goemchea kulleank dovorlelo ugteo korun Other than the rest, the Goan crabs, were displayed in the open Tea Amerikan scientist itlean nodor martat chouxilean The American scientists upon noticing this observed Chintunk poddtat vinchar kortat polloun Goemchea kulleank while in thought, pondering as to why it is only the Goan Crabs Heram kulleank dampun gatleat Goemcheo kiteak ugteo dovorleat When the others have been confined, yet the Goan crabs are allowed to be free Prosnak tachea zabab oso dilo eklean, Someone answered their question in this manner Aikat hem chint dovrun, khoimche teo kulleo dharun Listen to this mindfully, which crabs are those that are cruel... Khonnd tanchi pois korun chintat tor bhair sorun in shunning their fear think to move out..escape Her kulleo gorban borun, voddi tiche paink dovroun Other crabs engulfed in oride, would pull their legs Tica voir choddonk nohoi mhunn bhair soronk, dinant kitemch korunk They would not allow them to climb nor escape, not allowing for anything Team kulleo porim ami kortam, hem Goyemkaram thaim ghoddta We behave like the crabs, and this happens to Goas Cholot morot** konnui voir sorot, dolle amche foddta If anybody works hard and moves up, we get jealous Dusro lok poi kitem korta, tea aplea munxeank voir kaddta Look at what other people do, they uplift their own Goemkar ami Goemkarunch damun dovorta We Goans, keep only the Goans suppressed ** (even if) walking/dying Dev borem Korum Edward Verdes Chinchinim / KSA http://kantaram.blogspot.com/ - Original Message - From: Roland Francis Long ago, some half-wit must have come up with the story of how Goans are like crabs. Actually I am not sure the story orginated with Goans as I had been hearing my Maharastrian friends in Bombay telling the same story long before it became popular with Goans. So it looks like the Goans just copied it.
Re: [Goanet] Goanet Digest, Vol 3, Issue 1006
Goa and Goans A lot of repercussions are being felt and voiced on the influx of non goans in Goa and the way they treat the sons of the soil. The incidents voiced by Remo and another goan origin Brit are just tips of the iceberg. If a personality like Remo could be given that sort of treatment...what about the goans who do not share the fame and limelight enjoyed by Remo ? Today we read of keralites, Sindhis and Bengalis proudly proclaiming their mingling with goan culture.who would not like to enjoy goan culturetoday the non goans settled in goa are enjoying the cream thanks to our hospitable nature. The day is not far when our home will be filled with outsidersand we goans will be kicked out from our balcony.all this while our politicians are busy in sez and other money flaundering activies _ Searching for the best deals on travel? Visit MSN Travel. http://msn.coxandkings.co.in/cnk/cnk.do
Re: [Goanet] From Lisbon to Toronto Part I
Hi Victor I took absolutely no umbrage at Rene informing me in Toronto that the next Goan Convention would be held in London. I was most surprised at this totally unexpected news when informed personally by Rene and expressed my reservations about the wisdom of doing so in such a short period of time. I am used to a lead time of about two years to set up a sound base when organising an international convention/conference in a very large city like London. I happen to have organised very successful one-week residential ones in a professional capacity and was therefore awed by Kevin's ability to have generated a very successful Convention in Toronto in such a short period of time. Again, I thank him and his committee sincerely for this major achievement and for something I definitely enjoyed for the intellectual stimulus it provided, for the very appropriate social programme and the networking provision. As to who organises such a Convention is really not my business at all assuming a modicum of support for it is generated to make it a success. Cornel DaCosta, London, UK. --- Victor Rangel-Ribeiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To the best of my knowledge, no law governs who may or may not organize a Goan Convention. I did not question Casa de Goa's authority to organize it in Lisbon; I just went, participated, and contributed to the best of my ability. In Lisbon, when Kevin mooted the idea of holding it in Toronto this year, enthusiasm was running high, and many people thought it was an excellent idea. I thought so too. In Toronto, Renee announced his intention to hold it in London next year. Cornel takes umbrage at it, and perhaps some others will.
Re: [Goanet] Of Crabs and Goans
Tsk tsk Gabe I think you meant ...dog in a manger... What you (typo'd) made me wince! John Monteiro - Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .. when in doubt Google.'Dog in the manager' ? --- Regards John Monteiro
[Goanet] A list of bookshops...
Am trying to build a listing of bookshops around Goa. Could anyone help me, with your pointers and comments? Also do inform if any on the list are no longer in business. Thanks, FN Panjim * Singbal's Panjim 2425747 Old world charm, near the church square. Known for textbooks in the past. Has a good Goa collection too. I bought a Portuguese primer, pre-1961 published, for a few rupees here, not many years ago. * Broadways, Panjim At the end of 18th June Road, though they like this address for the prestige value it adds. Also claims to be Goa's largest bookshop, with a wide range and special discounts. They'll let you browse as long as you wish. Open Sundays and uptil 9 pm almost. http://www.goabooks.com * Varsha , Panjim 2425832 My favourite hole in the wall. Near Cafe Prakash/ Azad Maidan. Mostly magazines. Will let you browse into their narrow bookshop. * Jeevit Bibles and Bookshop 2438638 Patto Center - 2nd Floor/No.8 Patto Plaza (Next to Paulo's) Panjim. Tel: 2411201. Run by ex-Britto's former Merchant Navy man Tino Nazare and his Brazilian wife Mara. Religious. [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Sardesai's Book Shop, between the religious hotspot of the Goan capital, on the road leading from the church to the masjid (that goes on to Mahalaxmi Temple). Mostly known for textbooks. * Hotels like Nova Gova and others have their own bookshops, in-house. Margao * Golden Heart 2732450 Advertises itself as Goa's largest. Impressive spread of books. You'd get some books not available in Panjim here. Busy and active. * Book Mark 2711796 * Jesus Encounter, Gogol 2724544 * Kitab Book Store, Pajifond 2731493 * Printz Plaza, Margao 2743337 * The Bookmark, Margao 2711796 Mapusa * Other India Bookstore 2263305. Great alternative books, NGOish, environmental focussed, run by Norma and Claude Alvares. Check their occasionally published, elaborate and annotated catalogues. otherindiabookstore.com I could claim to have a 2% role in pushing OIBS to start a (now well-stocked and elaborate) Goa book shelf. * Living Word, Altinho, Mapusa 2252470 Religious texts. Calangute * Literati. Very unusual cafe-bookshop. Lot of high-profile book readings (sometimes followed with cheese and wine) run by lawyer-booklover Divya Kapur. This was formerly the home of Anthony Simoes, the Australia- returned cost engineer better known for his role as a number crunching-environmental campaigner in the Konkan Railway campaign and more. E/1-282 Gaura Vaddo, Calangute It was inaugurated in November 2005. Phone +91-832-2277740 * Oxford Bookstore Offering the best in publishing in an auburn golden-lit ambience, this could just be your best place to relax in town. With an incredible collection of books on fiction, beach reading, Indian writing in English, yoga/tantra/reiki, cookery, travel, religion, new age, business, reference and other popular categories, Oxford Bookstore will simply enamour you. And don't forget to pick up beautiful hand-made eco-friendly gifts for your loved ones! Panverica, House No 156, Opp. St Anthony's Chapel, Calangute +91-93260 60647 or 9822382282 earlier. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Source: http://www.oxfordbookstore.com/ * Acron's bookshop. Location in the heart of Goa's leisure Riviera at Candolim beach close to Vijay Mallya's Kingfisher villa and the Taj-Fort Aguada. Anjuna * Manali General Stores, Anjuna Beach 2273477 Chicalim * Sankars, Chicalim 2542436 Some other places that stock books: * Sai's, Calangute. Along the main road, near St Anthony's Chapel A general stores. Lots of magazines. Newspapers. * Saligao Super Market. Austin will stock books, preferably with a local author. * Cafe Prakash, Panjim. A noisy, gossipy journo haunt by evening... they will store the rare book or two. Online library * Goa University library is online at http://goalnet.unigoa.ac.in/gulibrary/index.htm * Arte Palmarica. See http://www.divshare.com/download/4088057-e79 * On Goa books http://www.indiamike.com/india/goa-f23/books-from-goa-t58425/ -- FN * Independent Journalist http://fn.goa-india.org Software for Kids Blog: http://softwareforkids.wordpress.com
Re: [Goanet] From Lisbon to Toronto Part I
Hi Gabe Good questions from you that are now at least partially addressed by Victor. I can assure you that were you to organise such a Convention to a really exotic place like Timbuctoo, many people, including me, could not resist the urge to attend. So, is this Timbuctoo Convention a firm offer from you then Gabe? I'd need to start saving up for it immediately. On TV recently, the mystery of Timbuctoo was presented brilliantly and I would have no hesitation in assisting you to organise a Convention there! I am right behind you on this one Gabe! Regards Cornel --- Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: QUESTION: I understand how an organisation, like Casa de Goa, were given the honour of hosting the Convention. I have asked this question here to no avail, could you tell me how the Convention was allocated to Canada, what was the basis of acceptability; similarly what was the basis of the, so called allocation to London? All we get is utter silence, on pertinent questions asked. Could I turn up at the next convention and declare that I am taking the convention to Timbuctoo?
[Goanet] Remo's Bomb Scare issue at the Airport
Hi to all goanetters, Remo's Bomb Scare issue at the Airport This particular saga has been going on for a while on goanet, some support, some against Remo's reaction and his excuses. Like Remo and a lot of Goans, I love my Goa too and get very emotionally depressed every time I arrive or leave Goa via Dabolim airport. I started traveling by air right from my college days in the second half of the 70's when I was studying in Bombay, not that I came from a rich family but availed of the 50% students concession on air travel (as well) at that time, the 50% ticket use to be 300 and later 500, during those days the normal bus tickets cost any thing between 150 -250 during the holiday seasons, back then those shanties at Zuari Nagar were few and the roads were not littered with all the waste as it is now but still those ugly shanties were visible from the air and I use to hope and pray that they would not turn in to a monster like the one at the Bombay airport, but looking at them every time I traveled year after year they seem to get bigger and uglier and the waste looked like piling up and the road sides looked like open air toilets and now the shanties are competing with the ones in Bombay and the road sides are littered with human waste, it's very repulsive and I travel may be two or three times a year maximum, what about the people who travel regularly, any sane Goan will go bananas going through Zuari Nagar. After my college days, till today I hate going back to Bombay mainly because of the filth and unhealthy stench on the streets but now the same thing prevails not only on the airport road but also in the cities and spreading to the villages as well, one classic example is in the heart of Margao city the famous Loyola, Fatima School and the Police station junction at the side of Sabina hotel. I just fail to see how the authorities are so blind to the fact that there are two major schools and a couple of hospitals in close proximity to this very unhygienic spot plus it's the main passage to another three schools and a college where hoards of stray dogs have made their permanent dwelling. It's a disaster in waiting, to happen. Getting back to Remo, I know Remo cannot blame the sun for being too hot in summer and go berserk at the hot tea and coffee outlet. The point is he realized he was wrong and gave a few pointers as well, may be it's a fact that he was affected by all those circumstances or may be not, in his shoes I may have gone berserk too, who knows. Another important thing to note is, how long is a vehicle actually allowed to park at the drop off point in front of the airport or does it depend on personalities ? On my many visits to the airports I noticed the security personnel being bias some are allowed to park as long as they like that should not happen, a notice should be put up informing the details and it should be followed no matter who the person is and if what Remo says is right that your are allowed 10 minutes, and if Remo infact did get back within those ten minutes then it's definitely wrong, for the security to impound his car and it's surely a case of harassment. Another part of this immense discussion is about the local language, do the police and the security agencies need to know the local dialect, I think it is imperative and should be made mandatory, as a persons life or the life of the public might depend on it or a security initiative might fail because of it, if a person trying to communicate to the police or the security does not know any language other than the local and the officer does not understand, the situation could instantly turn in to a disaster, knowledge of local, Hindi and English language should be made mandatory for the police and the security agencies. During my college days I traveled over different parts of India mostly to play, apart from Bombay, Delhi and Bangalore, people preferred to communicate in their local languages, be it Chennai, Kerela, Punjab or Himachal Pradesh, even people who knew Hindi or English pretended not understand it, but we Goans, go out of the way to help others even if we don't understand them, the result we end up learning their language rather than they learn ours. I can give a very good example, two years back when I was down in Goa I noticed huge lines mostly comprising of non Goans at the Margao Collectorate at first I thought it was for ration cards or one or the other certificates but then I was told it was for election cards, looking at so many non Goans in the queue I felt threatened of my very own Goan identity, if all these guys want an election card that means all of them have ration cards and if all of them have ration cards that means our very own elected members have given them, our rights for the security of their chairs, I was overwhelmed with sadness and anger and at the same time realized that I being a Goan did not have an EC, so I stared the process and finally got all the
[Goanet] 28 Years After: An Olympic Gold - the Moira Connection
Dears Abhinav Bindra has won a gold medal at the Olympics. This is the first medal that India has got after 28 years. That means the last Gold medal India won was in the 1980 Moscow Olympics where we won a Gold in the women's hockey competition. In that team there was the goalkeeper Loretta D'Sousa from Moira, now Loretta Sreedharan, Customs officer from Vasco. Don't you think it would be a nice idea to give her some attention at this moment? If some journos were smart, they would have interviewed her and asked her - what she felt when she won that Gold 28 years ago. They could have asked her how and why she was able to get that Gold and not other Goans. And why it took 28 years for another Gold to appear, and that too in an esoteric event like shooting. And they could have questioned her as to why a sport like hockey,in which Goans [although many of these Goans achieved what they did in Bombay or East Africa or elsewhere] have had an aptitude to, has never really flourished in Goa. In doing so, they could perhaps also focus on the way the Vaglos and the Dourados have screwed Goa's women and men's hockey respectively. When doing this interview, our intrepid journos must remember the scam that works like this: sports officials do not ever want to give up the reins of power in the Assn.'s which they control because they control a vote in the National federations. This means that every now and then, they will be given a free holiday abroad as Manager or some such official. And at times if some funds come from Sports Authority of India or S.A.Goa, then they are ever ready to misappropriate it. They must also try to fathom a question which I cannot understand: most of the sports officials who scam Goan sports come from so-called 'respectable' Goan families. I do not understand how they are prepared to disgrace their families for what, if you think in the long run, amounts to BHINKTAM. I wonder whether our journos have the balls to ask such questions. I remember asking a Goan editor why he did not ask an industrialist some tough questions. I thank him for giving me a frank answer: Goa is too small a place for such things. Cheers Augusto -- Augusto Pinto 40, Novo Portugal, Moira, Bardez, Goa, India E [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] P 0832-2470336 M 9881126350
[Goanet] Parrikar to support people against mining lobby
Well done Manohar Par ri kar (paar to ker hi diya) your statement to ask for special status for Goa and support the people against the mining lobby, I am not a supporter of the BJP or of Mr. Parrikar, but due credit to you for coming up with a googly that took us all by surprised, if it was on Sri Lankan pitches we would definitely won the series But with the sudden change I am a wee bit suspicious Just one question, Why now ? (but other questions do follow) Is it, that you are expecting the Government to fall and fresh elections in the coming months ? or Is your marriage to the mining lobby gone sour ? Are you not the same guy who labeled Seby a Naxallite for educating the affected people of their rights ? Is your memory so short and your heart so great for such a drastic change in such a short time ? Come on, your stripes won't change even if you cross over (Par ri kar) Freddy Agnelo Fernandes D G Jones International Ltd. Dubai Mall - Project P.O. Box 62256 Dubai United Arab Emirates Tel: 00971 44073599 Mob : 00971 50 541 7001 The content of this electronic communication is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and any others who are specifically authorized to receive it. It may contain confidential or legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or otherwise placing reliance on the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful in certain legal jurisdictions. If you have received this communication in error please notify the sender immediately by responding to this email and then delete it from your system. __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __
[Goanet] media slut -- pot calling the keetle black
Media slut -- pot calling the keetle black i feel rajan narayan has done more to Goa than taking pictures from afar and triggring panic among Goans and trying to create a state of obstruction in the development of Goa... perfect gutter crab this... so now what? after all avenues fail the saffron lensed bandicoot is trying to sing a hymn in a goan church in day light only to deface/defame it in the darkness of night? Goans are far too smart to see through this... Cedric da Costa Dubai
Re: [Goanet] Of Crabs and Goans
To quote my own posting :-) and Wikipedia... 2008/8/11 Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wikipedia (as usual) has its own view: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crab_mentality http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crab_mentality It suggests this term is used for Filipinos, Hawaiians, Maoris, coastal Indians in North America, Chamorros in Guam... These were all deeply colonised societies... Any clue here? FN
Re: [Goanet] Call to Action
Quite rich, the statement from Rafearo. Doggone the rest of the rest of the organizers and volunteers. Proof positive of my calling it the Saldanha Convention. Roland. On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 11:06 PM, Lola Rafearo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Twenty years later, Kevin and Lisette Saldanha, another two impressive leaders, are attacked because their vision, creativity, personalities, and hard work gained them recognition on an international level.
Re: [Goanet] Where have the Toronto Goans gone?
Hi Mervyn, Thanks for your kind response and explanation. I have some searching (not smart Alec) questions and comments which follow your pertinent paragraphs below. Regards, GL - Mervyn Lobo ML: We went ahead with our plans. Kevin went to every Goan social for the past three months informing people about the conference. On some weekends, he went to two or three functions, trying to sell our convention. The response we got from Toronto area residents was not what we hoped for. The response we got from Goanetters was similar. GL: Can you provide some possible explanations for the above - Why? Is there a disconnect as to what organizers of a Goan convention aim for and what the majority of Diaspora Goans want? Are the conventions geared by - and for - those who organize it? Let's be real. How many topics presented were of practical / everyday use to Goans - be new immigrants or long-time residents transitioning into retirement and likely to face new challenges? Do we have a sense of what diaspora Goans want from a Goan convention in addition to a good time within reasonable costs? ML: Let me give you a small example of the work involved. We invited a Mando group from Goa. They arrived a day before, on Sunday. Suddenly we had to find accommodation and venues for them to perform. This type of situation was repeated a hundred times during the convention. GL: Undoubtedly you-all put in a lot of work. We thank you for it. How come Goans appreciate their own hard work and not the hard work of others? You and others suggest, the difficulty for the community to reach its full, is not from lack of smarts and hard work on the part of individuals; but rather from the lack of community participation, support and appreciation ... which comparatively is minimal. More often the comments are outright negative.. If we-all did our own small part, the whole would be so much more productive, gratifying and help us-all move to the next level. Yet, as I said in my first post on this topic, we individually may not be practicing what we preach, in supporting others, in practice. In scientific meetings, the organizers request abstracts from want-to-be presenters. Organizers of Goan conference may want to do the same. Then one does not have issues of speakers being selected from whom you know. I am sorry to read that this year's Viva Goa was canceled. What a pity. Regards, GL -- Gilbert Lawrence I hope the moderators exercise their prerogatives, to provide a climate on the internet, for more unity among Goans. From the spate of recent posts it looks like more needs to be done in this regard. Perhaps Goans in Toronto and the 'greater Toronto regions' are sending a 'loud' message by their absence. And some of us may still not be getting that message.
[Goanet] Sarto Baptista re-elected IFRA President for third Term
Sarto Baptista re-elected IFRA President for third Term Kuwait, 12/8/2008 Former India International and Ex-Salgaocar player Sarto Baptista was unanimously re-elected for a third term as President of Indian Football Referees’ Association (IFRA)-Kuwait at its 28th Annual General Body Meeting held on 28/8/2008. The other Office Bearers are: Diago Rebello, Hon. Vice-President Junifer M. Rodrigues, Hon. Secretary Francis Fernandes, Hon.Treasurer Milagris Crasto, Hon.Member C.O. John, Hon. Member Sabino Anes, Hon. Member Yusuf Mubarak, Hon.Member Midas Fernandes, Hon.Auditor Indian Football Referees' Assocaition (IFRA) was formed on December 5, 2008, is the only recognized and registered Expatriate Qualified Football Referees' organization in Kuwait, and is registered with the Indian Embassy in Kuwait. Indian Football Referees' Association (IFRA) Kuwait Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: (965) 5611621/5633261/6776040 About INDIAN FOOTBALL REFEREES ASSOCIATION (IFRA): http://gasparalmeidawrites.blogspot.com/2007/12/indian-football-referees-association.html http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gulf-goans/message/20410 Gulf-Goans e-Newsletter (since 1994) http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/gulf-goans/
[Goanet] WGD Celebrations in Brisbane, Australia
Tumkaan sogleank Aamontron ditaun aamchea Bazaar Disaak yeopaak: (We invite
you all to come for our Market Day. ) held on the fourth Sunday Club day on 24
August 2008 to celebrate World Goa day and Bazaar Dis held at Warrigal Road
State School from 2pm to 5pm
In addition to regular sporting activities that is, badminton, table tennis and
carrom - we will be staging a short TIATR ('Theatre followed by Goan music
and Goan songs.
For the bazaar you are invited to bring along anything that you may like to
sell - such as food (pickles, jams, biscuits, cakes, samosas) craft items
(paintings / beads and earrings) , childrens' toys and the like. Full proceeds
of the sale go to the seller; the seller does not have to give any percentage
of the sales proceeds to the club.
The Club will provide tea and coffee. Please bring a plate of 'afternoon tea'
to share.
Joy de Souza
Brisbane
[Goanet] Goaday - reminder
Dear Members and Friends, The executive committee of the GWS will be celebrating the World Goa Day on Sunday 31st August 2008. Venue : Goan Institute, Nairobi Mass: 11.30 am followed by Lunch. at the GI Charges Adult members- 500/- per person Adult Non- Members- 700/- per person Children under 12 - 300/- per child PLEASE MARK THIS IMPORTANT DATE IN YOUR DIARY! The organizing committee make this humble appeal to friends and members to kindly make donations towards this function in Kind or cash. We will try to keep our charges as low as possible to enable families and every one to attend , hence the need to subsidise the function. We shall be having a Tinto with home produce and Goan goodies for sale and we welcome any products donated for us to sell. ( cakes, Goan sweets, pickles, masalas , canned products etc) We also have a raffle on sale and we request for prizes towards this- wines, spirits, meal vouchers, air tickets, hotel vouchers etc or cash donatons. If you have anything you would like to contribute contact the following below to collect or leave at the Goan Gym or Goan Institute labelled for GWS: Name OfficeMobile John Fernandes 0722 217 215 Tony D'Costa 0722-204 815 Lynette Pereira 0733 899 611 Christo D'Sa 0722 203 454 Joyce Shamshudin4451295 0733-616947 Colin Carneiro 0722 736 410 Lilly-Anne Fernandes 0722 756 687 Loraine Miranda 0722-793 700 Sincerely, for GWS Secretary -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
Re: [Goanet] Goanet Digest, Vol 3, Issue 1008
Dear Augusto, Absolutely brilliant and reflective, right down to the application of the appelation of bhinktam to so-called respectable families. Genius. Venantius Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:57:01 +0530 From: augusto pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] 28 Years After: An Olympic Gold - the Moira Connection Don't you think it would be a nice idea to give her some attention at this moment? If some journos were smart, they would have interviewed her and asked her - what she felt when she won that Gold 28 years ago.
Re: [Goanet] 28 Years After: An Olympic Gold - the Moira Connection
Augusto, you have fielded very topical points. , while they are at it, they should canvas the lofty Loretta's opinion why Indian hockey stands so eclipsed today as to not evenmerit qualifyiing for the Beijing olympics after eighty years of quite superb honours, right from inception of hokey as a olympic discipline. I would also like if someone knowledgeable would kindly advise me how toobtain through the right-to-information facility the list of the entire Indian Olympic squad im Beijing how many of them are participants, necessary officials and hangers on that have no relevance for the participation. How have the tatter been sponsored/financed for travel accomodation. These are highly relevant issues that merit priority attention. Alfred de Tavares, Stockholm, 2008-08-12 Tel: 0046 70 295 4091 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:57:01 +0530 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] 28 Years After: An Olympic Gold - the Moira Connection Dears Abhinav Bindra has won a gold medal at the Olympics. This is the first medal that India has got after 28 years. That means the last Gold medal India won was in the 1980 Moscow Olympics where we won a Gold in the women's hockey competition. In that team there was the goalkeeper Loretta D'Sousa from Moira, now Loretta Sreedharan, Customs officer from Vasco. Don't you think it would be a nice idea to give her some attention at this moment? If some journos were smart, they would have interviewed her and asked her - what she felt when she won that Gold 28 years ago. They could have asked her how and why she was able to get that Gold and not other Goans. And why it took 28 years for another Gold to appear, and that too in an esoteric event like shooting. And they could have questioned her as to why a sport like hockey,in which Goans [although many of these Goans achieved what they did in Bombay or East Africa or elsewhere] have had an aptitude to, has never really flourished in Goa. In doing so, they could perhaps also focus on the way the Vaglos and the Dourados have screwed Goa's women and men's hockey respectively. When doing this interview, our intrepid journos must remember the scam that works like this: sports officials do not ever want to give up the reins of power in the Assn.'s which they control because they control a vote in the National federations. This means that every now and then, they will be given a free holiday abroad as Manager or some such official. And at times if some funds come from Sports Authority of India or S.A.Goa, then they are ever ready to misappropriate it. They must also try to fathom a question which I cannot understand: most of the sports officials who scam Goan sports come from so-called 'respectable' Goan families. I do not understand how they are prepared to disgrace their families for what, if you think in the long run, amounts to BHINKTAM. I wonder whether our journos have the balls to ask such questions. I remember asking a Goan editor why he did not ask an industrialist some tough questions. I thank him for giving me a frank answer: Goa is too small a place for such things. Cheers Augusto -- Augusto Pinto 40, Novo Portugal, Moira, Bardez, Goa, India E [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] P 0832-2470336 M 9881126350 _ Explore the seven wonders of the world http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+worldmkt=en-USform=QBRE
[Goanet] Talking Photos- New Panjim Pics: Azad Maidan AZAD for all etc
Talking Photos: Azad Maidan AZAD for all etc Azad Maidan AZAD for all (see the insert, 4 migrant sleeping all 4 sides) http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk_dirtypanjim/2756871986/sizes/l/ Also used as playground Panjim new Market: Vendors using the main passage in protest http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk_dirtypanjim/2756043829/sizes/l/ Peeing http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk_dirtypanjim/2756043523/sizes/l/ Check this garbage/rubbish dump right below the CCP notice board (Azad Maidan ) http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk_dirtypanjim/2756037859/sizes/l/ No Parking, danger of roof falling (see also rugs-bags taking shelter during rain) http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk_dirtypanjim/2756037437/sizes/l/ Azad maidan used as rug-bag storage and playground for migrants http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk_dirtypanjim/2756871316/sizes/l/ Peeing http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk_dirtypanjim/2756871624/sizes/l/ All pics taken today 12/8/08 pm [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa __ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html
[Goanet] Goanet Reader: Exile, and the Goan writer... a tango made for each other? (Victor Rangel-Ribeiro, in Ekvott!)
EXILE, AND THE GOAN WRITER: A TANGO MADE FOR EACH OTHER? By Victor Rangel-Ribeiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is relevant to the theme of this essay that the very first novel by a Goan to see the light of day was written and published when the author was overseas and far from home. Francisco Luis Gomes pulled off this feat in Lisbon in 1866, while representing our forefathers in the Portuguese parliament. Since world literature was already two millennia old by then, that was a very late start for Goan literature; it could therefore be described as one tiny step for mankind, but a truly giant step for our people. Francisco Luis Gomes was only thirty-eight years old when Os Brahamanes was published; its success would surely have led him to write other novels, had he not died aboard ship on his way back to Goa, just two years later. The historical importance of Os Brahamanes was underscored recently by Everton V. Machado, a Brazilian academic and student of comparative literature. It is not only the first Indian novel to question British colonialism, he wrote. It is perhaps the one novel that, for the first time in the history of modern literature, deals with the dynamics of a colonial enterprise, the first fictional work that attacks the Hindu caste system, the first and the most important novel of the literature of the Indian and the Portuguese themselves, the literature written in Portuguese in India. In stressing the fact that Os Brahamanes was the first Indian novel to question British colonialism, Everton Machado ignores the fact that Gomes was also obliquely attacking Portuguese colonialism in Goa, but had to choose his words very carefully. In the Lisbon of 1866 he could safely write that impartial men, those who are inspired by justice and not by racial prejudice, want India to be ruled by Indians, when his real message was that impartial men inspired by justice would also want Goa to be ruled by Goans. In the Lisbon of that period, he could not possibly write that. Francisco Luis Gomes' success found no immediate successors; ninety years elapsed before another comparable novel emerged: Lambert Mascarenhas' Sorrowing Lies my Land. This time, however, there was no fudging: India had gained its independence, and it was Portuguese colonialism that was being challenged. Since Lambert lived in Bombay in 1956 and the novel was published there, and Goa was still under Portuguese rule at that time, we can consider his novel too to have been part of Goan diasporan literature. Surprisingly, another challenge to Portuguese colonialism came from within Portugal itself, and that was Orlando da Costa's O Signo de Ira. It must have taken a great deal of courage for Orlando to have written such a pro-Goa book under the noses of Salazar and his PIDE, especially since he had been arrested three times between 1950 and 1953; and jailed on the last occasion from October 1952 to March 1953. For his literary achievement, Portugal's Academy of Sciences awarded him the Ricardo Malheiros Prize; for his temerity he brought down on himself the wrath of Salazar, and the book was banned. Ironically, it quickly sold out; and in a further affront to the PIDE it was republished in 1962 and again ten years later. This yearning for freedom in the land of our birth is a thread shared by others in Goan expatriate literature. The winds of freedom that first swirled in Os Brahamanes and that blew again through Lambert's Sorrowing Lies My Land and Orlando's O Signo de Ira are to be found also in the novels that came after. In my own novel Tivolem, which is set in 1933, they blow strongly in British India but are barely beginning to stir in Goa; they approach monsoon force in Lino Leitao's The Gift of the Holy Cross and Ben Antao's Blood and Nemesis, both of which deal with a later period in Goa's history. Yet, the universal human yearning for freedom was only one motivating factor leading us to write. The very fact that we found ourselves in voluntary exile in a foreign land may have been another. It certainly motivated Orlando da Costa. Speaking to Fr. Eufemiano Miranda in December 1988, he had this to say about O Signo de Ira: My first novel was written, above all, for what might be called civic reasons, because it really was the call of Goa and its people that had the strongest and most decisive effect on me. Did the distance, the being away or absence for over ten years, coupled with knowing that things are carrying on over there, make me feel guilty? I don't know, but it did stir a sort of nationalism, a need to be involved, to stand up for 'us', a need not to feel uprooted. I truly wanted to write a novel about Goa that would contain all the dignity I could give it. Peter Nazareth, author of two novels that include Goan characters in an African setting, puts it this way: The paradox for writers is that in order to contribute to their country, they need to go outside.
[Goanet] GOANET - TIME TO STAND UNITED !
Today, the Editor of Navhind Times is attempting to tear down the GBA in his article The Great Goan Illusion-http://www.navhindtimes.com/story.php?story=2008081210 giving analogy of children fighting in Kitchen. coincidently the article name rhymes with article -THE GREAT GOAN UPRISING published in Herald - http://navendushirali.blogspot.com/2008/05/apologies-for-bad-resolution-will-try.html Very painful to see, that the only united opposition to real estate and illegal mining is speculated for a breaking down in eyes of citizens. I wonder if this was a master stroke by real estate n mining lobby, involve the GBA in RP draft, spread the rumour of sell outs, attack the credibility of the main leaders, result, the sharpest arrows is now withdrawn. (Reminds me Chanakya's Arthashastra) It's painful to see that such forums are being used to hit at each other, personal allegations, citizens who are in Goa want to voice out their hurt egos choose to do in open forums instead of just speaking on face to face and settling down. I guess such forums will soon get polarized as well. I realize we all have differences, there is seems to be no discussion on the middle path, we all agree on disagreements, but we also need to agree on what all of us agree too. Our methods of fight may be different, affiliations to political ideology might be different but our goals must be same. Both Jesus and Ram always stood as for Apology, restitution and love. Somewhere there is Gandhism missing in each one of us. I hope this forum unites in spite of all individualistic ideologies; there is a bigger cause we need to focus on, 3 big battles awaits us, The Real Estate Lobby, SEZs that don't meet local aspirations, and the super finals against Illegal Mining. Each one of them becomes more powerful every time we disintegrate and tear down credibility of each other. We know that Goa is 0.1% of India Geographic area, for them its highest premium property, lowest cost of minerals, and they only thing that can stop them is us, the citizens of Goa. Our generation, lies on threshold to see whether Citizens of Goa remain as united as these Lobbies, Wrong will always remain wrong, even if everyone does it. Right will always remain right, even if no one does it. Jai Hind, Navendu Shirali
[Goanet] NEWS FROM GOA: Football selections... Aleixo... Goa Mineral Policy ... prayer to the oceans ... Majorda-Carmona powerline
FOOTBALL U-17 BOYS AND GIRLS PROBABLES Panaji, August 12, 2008 The Directorate of Sports Youth Affairs has short listed the talented probables to attend the Phase II Pre-National Football Boys Girls U-17 Coaching Camp to be held from August 14, to September 13, 2008 at Government Village School Playground, Santacruz and Campal Sports Complex, Panaji for selecting the State Team scheduled to participate in the forthcoming National School Games Football Boys and Girls (U/17) and Taekwondo U-17 U-19 Tournament to be held in Goa from November 1 to 6, 2008. The probables are selected to undergo II Pre-Natiional Coaching Camp to be held from August 14 to September 13, 2008 betweeen 3.00p.m. to 6.00p.m. at Government Village School Playground, Santacruz Campal Sports Compex, Panaji. The selected boys football team under 15 comprise Jeevan Singh, Samir Pednekar, Deepi Shekar M., Melvin Lobo, Mario Lobo, Marshal Patrick Fernandes (St. Joseph HS Calangute), Cardozo Jesus Bento, Denzil Fernandes, Custodio Pereira, Joy Dias, Melvil Fernandes, Samson Fernandes, Rosevio Fernandes (St.Anthony HS Monte Guirim), Vasant C. Gadekar, Joaquino Pacheco (St. Joseph HS Arpora), Sayed Faizam Irsad, Kishan Nipanikar (New Goa HS Mapusa), Lenstan Afonso(Don Bosco HS, Panaji), Billu G. Chawan (Sacred Heart HS Parra), Deepam Tilve, Paresh Korgaonkar (Holy Cross HS Siolim), Malik Harshad Vishram (Our Lady of Grace HS Bicholim), Arun A. Debnath, Dale Methew (St. Ann's HS Tivim), Narbahadur Sonar (Dada Vaidya HS Curti ) Varun Ganpat Gaude (Sharda Eng. HS Marcela). Jaison Pereira (St. Anthony HS Assolna), Neslie Fernandes, Javed Ali Mulla, Allison Marchon (Gurdian Angel HS Curchorem), Alister Gomes, Richard Costa, Allwyn Fernandes (Perpetual Soccour Convent HS Navelim), Agnelo Fernandes (Ideal HS Taleigao), Nicholas Fernandes, Joseph Andrade (Mae Dos Pobres HS Nuvem), Jovino Misquita (Our Lady of Succour HS Nagao), Vincy Mendes (Our Lady of Pepetual HS Cortalim), Constancio Rodrigues, Valent Rodrigues (St. Mary HS Varca), David Costa, Micheal D'Souza (Fr. Agnel Multipurpose HS Verna), Melvin Araujo (Our Lady of Rosary HS Fatorda), Rovito Godinho, James D'Costa (St. Anthony's HS Amlai) Daniel Fernandes, Osborn Furtado, Vincy Rodrigues, Jerry Menezes (St. Rita's HS Maina), Chrison Fernandes (New Edu. Institute Curchorem), Brandon Fernandes, Meldon D'silva (Loyala High School Margao), Sagar Dagale(Government HS Betoda), Deslie Fernandes (St. Xavier Institute Curtorim), Bharat Thapa, Vishnu Singh, Vikram Singh, Michael D'Souza (Government HS Juna Bazar Ponda), Fexson Carvalho (Our lady of Mother of Poor HS Tilamol), Aditya Mardolkar (V.D.N.S.V. Wagle HS Mangueshi). The above players should report in their proper kit to Shri Divakar Kotkar, A.P.E.O. on August 14, 2008 at 2.30 p.m. at the Campal Sports Complex, Panaji. The Football Girls U-17 team comprise Shinde Preeti, Odhar Bindhya, Bhale Rekha, Chavan Anita, Patil Mamta, Remedious Bethany, Rego Valencia, Sneha Lata, Silva Jenny, Achrekar Priya, Fernandes Olina, D'Souza Josline (St. Theresa's HS Candolim) Seema Naik, Dhanshree Karapurkar, Archana Ghade (Holy Cross HS Bastora), Rashika Kavlekar, Bhavana Naik (Kasturba Matoshri HS Panaji), Sandra Santosh, Sophia Pereira, Mahisha Kankonkar, Rosita Alfanso, Anna Fernandes, Nagma Shaikh (Auxilium HS Caranzalim ), Alfa Coutinho (D.M.M. High School, Mapusa), Estrelia A. Coutinho,Nasreen Ahamad (Dattaram Mantrawadi HS,Mapusa),Manjula Hulkarni, Mayola Fernandes, Jenny Monteiro, Mabel Macarenhas, Alisha Fernandes, Sanchia Hilario, Hazel Dias (St. Joseph Edu. Institute Chandor), Meena D'Costa, Anisha D'Costa, Tanisha Godinha (St. Anthony's HS Amblai), Rovita Fernandes, Nessia Veigas, Kratika Verlekar (Fatima Convent HS Margao), Yadnya Parwar, Glifa Dias(St. Joseph Edu.Institute Chandor), Priyanka Menezes, Christina Carvalho, Joyee Fernandes, Philphina Mascarenhas, Antoneta Mascarenhas(St. Mary's HS Varca), Hasmani Laxmi Gangaram, Valma Nalri Rasul (Government High School Ponda), Mura Faria, Casendra Fernandes, Gaberiela (St. Anthony's High School Majorda), Chetan Prabhudesai, Steffy Menezes, Priyanka Borkar (Immaculate Conception HS Paroda). The above players should report in their proper kit to Gurudas Bandodkar, A.P.E.O. on August 14, 2008 at 2.30 p.m. at the Campal Sports Complex, Panaji. DI/NB/NUD/SM/SGN/LN/2008/1260. ALEIXO TO ATTEND GRIEVANCES AT COLLECTORATE Panaji, August 12, 2008 Minister for Power, Shri Aleixo Sequeira will attend to the grievances of the general public in particular to Power Department in the Minister's Chamber at the Collectorate Office, Margao on Wednesday, August 13, 2008. DI/NB/NUD/SM/SGN/LN/2008/1261. SUGGESTIONS INVITED ON DRAFT GOA MINERAL POLICY 2008 Panaji, August 12, 2008 Government of Goa has released the Draft Goa Mineral Policy 2008 in the website egov.goa.nic.in/rtipublic. The public are requested to refer the same and forward their views/suggestions to the Director of Mines Geology, Udyog
[Goanet] Obituray
OBITUARY - Mrs Lydia Fernandes (58), wife of RIOROSA Mrs Lydia Fernandes (58), wife of RIOROSA (Rosario Fernandes) Konkani writer, Tiatrist, Composer, Singer, Writer and Artiste of Aldona-Calvim, Goa and Mother of Leeanne, Lloyd, Lester expired suddenly on Monday August 11, 2008 due massive heart attack at Hinduja hospital Mumbai. Funeral cortege leaves residence at 10.00 am on Wednesday August 13 for Mass at Good Shepherd Church, Four Bungalows, Andheri West, Mumbai and burial at Oshiwara Cemetry, Mumbai. Residence: 104/A Sai Sadan, Ratan Nagar, Four Bungalows, Andheri West Contact: 022-26374479, 9867329584
[Goanet] CRZ V/s CMZ
Dears, As has been widely reported, GSRP was represented at this rather largely attended meet organized by 'Center for Environment Education' - CEE at the Vivekananda Hall, Junta House on 8 Aug., 2008 a PowerPoint presentation by Sujitkumar Dongre of CEE. A brief report 1. Hats off to Shri. Sujitkumar for conducting this presentation mostly in 'passable' Konkani. This is and has been much appreciated. 2. Besides a large gathering of Goa's endangered species (the Goan fisherfolks) represented by Agnelo Rodrigues, Goa's predominant environmental activist present were: Patricia Pinto, Ana Pinto, Claude Alvares, Matanhy Saldanha, Prajal Sakardande, Soter D'Souza, Ramesh Gauns, Adv. Jatin Naik and many environment and ecology sensitive citizen activists who protect and want Goa's environment protected. 3. As presented, the (main) comparison between the existing CRZ (Coastal Regulation Zone) and the now proposed CMZ (Coastal Management Zone). a. Regulatory V/s Management b. Clearly established 200 m. and 500 m HTL (High tide line) V/s Imaginary (adjustable) line. The Goa Su-Raj Party presented its objections publicly as under:- 1. That inspite of the Regulatory do or die CRZ provisions, the authorities vested with the controls allowed these provisions to be bent for unauthorized CRZ violations, chief among such authorities being the CZMA (Coastal Zone Management Authority) as well as the various Panchayats, including the Director and the Deputy Director of Panchayats. Example cited was the Calypso, Par Excellence and the Estrela Do Mar Hotels in the Calangute-Baga belt taken to task vide PIL 236 of 2007 Floriano Lobo V/s the State of Goa, being a mere drop in the ocean of violations in Goa's Coastal zone. That inspite of the High Court 3 month deadline to demolish all structures over 200 meter 'No Development zone', the State is still sleeping on the execution of the order. Where there is a finite 200 meter and 500 meter line drawn for such controls, the authorities have closed their eyes for selective big moneyed violations dragging ordinary citizens to court and the ordeals thereof. As against this regulatory do or die provisions, if MANAGEMENT should take its place, God only help this territory (Goa). The MANAGEMENT that is sought for is the MANAGEMENT of lacs of rupees paid under the table in the High Offices of Delhi's Authorities where the imaginary line will be moving down and down and into the sea itself with the extent of money paid into the coffers of the corrupt politicians and environment ministry officials. And for genuine persons whose life depend on such developments, the imaginary line will move up and up to impossibility until and unless money is paid, beg or borrow, we do not care attitude. To end Floriano Lobo of goasuraj stated that even the Supreme Court of India openly stated that even God will not be able to save this country from the CHEAT GOVERNMENT. That the same sentiments should be reiterated by every conscientious Goan to say NO to CMZ and YES to the Do or Die provisions of the existing CRZ. 2. Adv. Jatin Naik questioned the appointment of Prof. Swaminathan for the execution of the report where Prof Swaminathan was morally unfit to do such a report. 4. Claude Alvares passed a resolution against the Management system proposed and in favour of the existing CRZ provisions with added safeguards. 5. Ramesh Gauns clearly indicted the CMZ as a law to rob the people of Goa of their heritage of safe environment and ecological balance. End
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Hi Cornel, I remember a few years a back my deceased friend Santolino Rodriges who served in the Kenya Police Force in the late fifties telling me gruesome stories he witnessed how the Mau Mau fighters caught by British troops were laid down on the road and ran over by the truck to save costs on the bullets. Mariano Pereira -- Pt! Schon das coole Video vom GMX MultiMessenger gesehen? Der Eine für Alle: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/messenger03
[Goanet] Guess who's online?
Some of you might know my colleague and friend John Aguiar, a journalist from his college days (1980s) in Ponda, then with the papers in Panjim and currently with the Department of Information (the solely minister-focussed agency of the state government, wish they would put out more information that adds value to government functioning here). Some links I ran into while online late last night: Blogger John Aguiar http://www.blogger.com/profile/05391090761463653637 ExNCC Goa http://www.exnccgoa.blogspot.com/ John Aguiar's poetry http://www.johnaguiarspoetry.blogspot.com/ Some aspects of John's life http://www.johnaguiar.blogspot.com/ Aguiar community on Orkut http://www.orkut.co.in/CommMsgs.aspx?cmm=25302848tid=2505350985401723661start=1 John Aguiar on Orkut http://www.orkut.co.in/FullProfile.aspx?uid=11822925395001482457 Not connected directly with the above, but for those of you who have an Aguiar family link: http://www.orkut.co.in/Community.aspx?cmm=1404114 Great going, Bengali jadugar :-) * Keep it up! FN * This reference is to a very (inadvertently) funny story John wrote circa 1983, on Shyam Benegal ;-) -- FN * Independent Journalist http://fn.goa-india.org 784 Nr Convent, Saligao 403511 Goa India Ph +91-832-2409490 M: +91-9970157402 Software for Kids Blog: http://softwareforkids.wordpress.com
[Goanet] Goan Tolerance.
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 23:08:24 +0400 From: Arwin Mesquita [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is currently a lot of talk about the tolerance of Goans, particularly because Goans are in increasing numbers, starting to speak out against the fast deterioration of Goan Culture Identity; mainly with the rapid influx of Non-Goans/Migrants and hence the fast changing demographics. Mario asks: I don't see increasing numbers - just a small handful of Goans, dreaming of days gone by. The increasing numbers more correctly describe the new-Goans who have discovered the beauty and charm of Goa. There are, in fact, several Goan Identities, each in the eye of its beholders, some of which, like the caste system, continue the damage they have done for centuries and need to be abolished by being shunned in day-to-day decisionmaking. Arwin wrote: In the UAE, where I temporarily reside for example, the vast majority is non-nationals and many are allowed to even buy land restrictively, but this country in its wisdom has put in fair safeguards to ensure that the UAE will always remain with its own people. Mario observes: The UAE is a tribal society just barely emerging into the civilized world, not some paragon of national virtue and tolerance that Goans should follow. Besides, the UAE is a federation of several small autocratic sheikdoms, whereas Goa is a part of highly civilized democratic republic and any Indian can choose to live there. Arwin still doesn't seem to see the difference. Arwin wrote: To drive home my point, say for instance in the homes that we live in, we can be very tolerant hospitable to our guests or any person for that matter, but does this mean that we should give away our homes to the said people? Surely nobody will agree to this, not even the critics. Mario observes: You have no point, Arwin. A private home is not a state within a country. Non-Indians who choose to live in Goa do not need the permission or tolerance or hospitality of local Goans, though thankfully, most Goans are tolerant and hospitable.
[Goanet] Fw: NT- Editorial Article - Power to the People - The great Goan Illusion- COMMENTS
- Original Message - From: floriano To: Navhind Times Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 7:15 PM Subject: NT- Editorial Article - Power to the People - The great Goan Illusion- COMMENTS The Navhind Times View Points GOA AND GRAM SABHAS Power to the People: The Great Goan Illusion ODYSSEY People must freely express their views. And government must respect their views and revise its policy and decisions accordingly. By: Arun Sinha. Comments: Dear Mr. Sinha, Greetings, The Odessey (No.2) is a nice try. However it has its flaws. Agreed that too many cooks spoil the soup. This has been the legendary understanding of all times. But there must be a reason why so many cooks take on themselves to set the menu in the first place. What happened to the master cook? Could it have been that mum ( as you put it) never did get a suggestion or a critique on the way each day's menu was prepared? Did mum take the family members, or their collective taste for granted? Could it have been that mum dished out the same monotonous menu day in and day out considering that there was no complaint, not a 'come on mum! What's this that we are getting every day'? ... nothing? Could it have been that mum was preparing the meals, the most easy way out?... the same fare every day? I believe that there is something like the MENU. Mums must know what to put into the frying pan, when and how. At times, I have revolted with certain dinners that my wife (not my mum J ) has put on my plate. Revolted silently by picking here and there from the plate and returning the plate as it is ( not by throwing the plate out of the window). Next day , many a times, I have done bags full of shopping on my own thereby giving the signal to my wife... Hey! Tell us what you need. We are here, you know?? Just because you are in charge of the kitchen and the grocery store, and just because we are not vocal about what is on the plate does not mean that you have to turn out monotonous menus I agree with you that planning has to be left to the experts. But people, who are the end users of that planning are watching things silently. And the saturation point comes when the plate flies out of the window one fine day. This is exactly what is happening in Goa today. Gram Sabhas which were silent or not interested even, have taken up the cudgels with the powers that be because they have been taken for granted for far too long. First of all, you go on amending the Regional Plans and the ODPs of cities and towns on daily basis as according to the whims and fancies of the Town Country Planning Minister, whoever it is. The Regional Plan and the ODPs are supposed to be planned documents, sealed and delivered, the day these are notified. Absolutely no changes are allowed or to be entertained during their implementation period which is normally a ten year period. Any changes that are necessary to be taken up will go down as part of the planning process for the next ten year period. In simple words, the documents are planned documents for a sealed period of time and since these are planned documents, these cannot be found wanting ( except in case of emergencies like earthquakes, Tsunamis etc, the unforeseen natural calamities). RP-2011 was scrapped because the people saw through it as a non-planned, devastating document. How come then its provisions (mega projects) are still coming alive? These should have been dead with the scrapping of RP-2011. What the people want is that the responsible government must plan for them in the most diligent manner because they are paid to do just that. Ordinary people do not want to interfere with the planning process because it is a complicated one which they do not understand. But they would like to know what is planned for them. Their venom, if any, will disappear by the very fact that the experts want to share with them their imaginations. But what the people has begun to notice is something very strange and shocking. It is like, though they are invited for the fabulous hundred course banquet, there is absolutely nothing but left-overs remaining on the tables when they arrive, every thing having been eating by the cooks themselves, their kit and kin, their cronies and what have you. The uproarious gram sabhas are exactly and rightly the protests for this act of commission and omission on the part of the powers that be. They want the full laid out banquet which has been prepared for them, waiting for them, hot and served, when they arrive to partake in it. I will want to give you an idea as to what happened yesterday (11th August, 2008 ) at Benaulim. The people, the gram sabha had passed resolutions to revoke licences of a couple of mega projects because of the gross anomalies under which these were given permission to by the Panchayat. The Sarpanch dilly-dallies with these resolutions. Even the South Goa Advocate's Association is
[Goanet] Oscar Rebello fell to Goa’s traitors - By Sujay Gupta
Oscar Rebello fell to Goa's traitors By Sujay Gupta 11 August 2008 The history of India is pockmarked with tales of backstabbing and backbiting. Of shallow traitors who have destroyed, what heroes attempted to create. When Muhammed bin Qasim attacked Dahir of Sindh, it was Dahir's astrologers who joined hands with the Muslim invaders to facilitate their first intrusion in India after defeating Dahir. Then traitor Jaichand backstabbed the warrior Prithivraj Chauhan. Jaichand joined hands with Mohammad Ghori to ensure Chauhan's defeat. In a queer, indirect but brutally effective way, Goa's most spontaneous peoples movement has been backstabbed, butchered and cut to pieces by its own people, mainly a body of self seeking internet tigers and a bunch of rabble rousers, who spend all their not so quality time giving speeches and shouting from public platforms. Goas biggest strength was the Goa Bachao Abhiyan, a movement of people. It is now Goas biggest weakness in the people's space, since it is not the common man from a village tinto, a mother in her balcao, and an uncle on his field, who is at the centre of the movement. But a bunch of self centered individuals, who have cleverly plotted to force a man like Oscar Rebello out of the GBA, and his trusted aides Ritu Prasad and Patricia Pinto out of the task force to formulate the Regional Plan. In the guise of doing good to the people of Goa, of giving them back the power to be a part of the participative process of planning, they have actually handed back power to the very lobby of politicians and builders, who would lose if the genuine recommendations of the task force came into effect. By no means has power gone back to the politicians and snatched away from people indirectly. Forces within the GBA, the same forces who prevailed upon Sabina Martins to send a letter to the government rejecting the interim task force report in the absence of convenor Oscar Rebello, have colluded and plotted to bring Goas most forceful peoples movement down. It's an act of criminality Goa will not forget. And most importantly forgive. And to add, insult to injury, people within the GBA and those merry men and women who show up for the party at every rally, dharna or public meeting, went back to their desk tops to churn out absolute hatred and muck against a gentleman like Oscar Rebello, accusing him of having sold out . One writer, who has recently moved to back to Goa from Mumbai and is one of the key figures of the anti Oscar task force even called him evil. I humbly request her and her friends to line up in front of a large mirror to see what evil really is. If the task force report prepared by Ritu Prasad and Patricia Pinto among others and supported by the then convenor Oscar Rebello, is examined seriously, any right thinking and, crucially, right meaning, individual will see its strengths. The task force noted the difficulties in implementing planning methodology according to the 73rd and 74th amendments, since the Five Year Plans, which should be the basis for the preparation of the Regional Plan, have already been formulated top-down, rather than bottom-up, till 2012. They then mooted a comprehensive plan for peoples participation by requiring the Task Force to explain the plan proposals to the people at the grassroots level through a 'Taluka Committee'. Since there are 189 panchayats, 14 municipal councils and one municipal corporation in Goa, it proposed to extend the time for public to submit comments and objections about the plan to four months instead of two. It also stressed that land utilisation made up to 2021 should relooked at after 2012, when the next Five Year Plan is drawn up, hopefully through the 'bottom up' process, where settlement plans at municipal and panchayat level would be prepared by the concerned local body within that local area, and then looked at the taluka level by the taluka level committee. But the Taluka Committee would only be a 'regulatory body'. Approvals would have to be issued by the local body after consultation with the Taluka Committee. This meant that had the proposal been approved by the Task Force and the government, it would be local bodies like panchayats and municipalities which would be responsible for both approvals of projects as well as licensing. The shocking irony is that the reasons why the task force report was ostensibly rejected, were no reasons at all, since the basic grouse of the internet tigers and public speakers within the GBA was that the task force had not outlined a process where the village panchayats would be consulted. It perhaps went beyond their intelligence to see that the task force had gone a step further. It had made a plan where the local bodies would not just be consultants but the final decision makers This very Task Force, in its report, completely neutralised the absolute discretionary power of the government by the amendment to the TCP Act, which excluded central and state
[Goanet] Highrises
Here is an excerpt from the Times of India, Mumbai regarding Altamont Road or Altamount Road: quote Residents of Altamont Road, South Mumbai's toniest 3.5 km strip of land and the tenth most expensive in the world - resent their homes being viewed s juicy pieces of real estate, as bungalows built at the turn of the last cerntury give way to hideous 21st century highrises and the neighbourhood struggles to retain its rapidly diminishing old-world charm. It further adds: A vigilant citizens' committee has also prevented Carmichael Road from losing its character, even as Altamont Road continues to be destroyed by builders who replace bungalows with monstrous towers. Anita Lawyer, wife of rock star Gary Lawyer and an active member of the Carmichael Road residents committee, has helped prevent a number of bungalows from turning into multi-storeyed buildings. Even if a bungalow is broken down, the new owners cannot build a highrise and must stick to building only a limited number of floors says Anita, adding that some bungalows are governed by a covenant that prevents them from being turned into highrises. So, though Carmichael Road has not been spared development, the area has still retained its charm. For instance, when Kumaramangalam Birla acquired the bungalow on the road, though the original was demolished, it was replaced with another one. Unquote Why can't our villages in Goa be also governed by a covenant that prevents highrises, which is exactly what is ruining it? Bernice Pereira 102 Eken Heights Junction of 21st/33rd Roads, Bandra, Mumbai 400050 Tel: 26007212 Get an email ID as [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Click here http://in.promos.yahoo.com/address
Re: [Goanet] The Toronto Convention and Goanet moderation in particular and more!
Hi Selma There really is absolutely nothing to be apologetic about re the premature anticipation of the Convention in London. Your genuine keenness to have contributed to it is clearly well intentioned and worthy of note. I now present a few further reflections on the Toronto Convention--and hopefully my last on this theme. I suggest that several comments so far have interpreted the word Convention as an expectation that there would perhaps be hundreds attending. Instead, a member of the organising team told me over the first lunch that, only about 80 were expected and appropriate catering, and other facilities were therefore made for that number. In other words, it does seem that hundreds of Torontonians were not expected to attend this particular Convention. Therefore, in this context, the question where have all the Canadians gone? becomes a bit academic perhaps. I am relieved the Goan Convention will not take place in London in 2009. In a big place like London, a lead time of two years becomes essential as venues get booked up very early. Unless there was access to pots of money, a Goan Convention in London in 2009 would be a potential disaster waiting to happen in my humble opinion. Why do I feel this way? Well, since 1981, I have been directly and indirectly involved, following my establishment with an English university colleague, Colin Mably, of the 'Googleable 'International Society for Teacher Education (ISTE), of 27 annual international conferences around the world. In these I have been variously, a keynote speaker, the convener, co-convener, committee member or adviser in running a conference model that we preferred to call a Seminar for numbers between 80 to 100 and running with full board and accommodation for a week on a non profit basis. Besides about 5 keynotes, all attendees do a 10/15 minute summary presentation of their prepared paper to a 'paper group' of about 12. Copies of each paper are submitted previously for reading. This is a virtually finished academic paper for critical comment from the 'paper group'. The aim is that each paper will take on board many comments and suggestions and be 'polished' soon after for publication. The Seminar is therefore a working Seminar. OK, this is more of a professional Seminar with a parallel social programme, but as no fellow Goan has ever been to one of our highly successful ISTE Seminars, this is hoping that they may turn up in Salt Lake City in 2009, Porto Alegre, Brasil, in 2010, and Bangkok in 2011 all around Easter time. They would definitely not be disappointed! Nor do we receive adverse comments! The model designed in 1981 for a one-off Seminar has been closely adhered to with only very minor modifications to suit different venues and countries. I had sent Kevin some thoughts/suggestions on the way the Toronto Convention could run and I am aware that these and many other ideas were explored for the final programme by him and his team. I am very pleased that the Goans in Sydney will host the 2009 Convention. Sydney is great for such an event and I wish the organising group there much luck and success in the limited preparatory time available to them. By way of a bit of a summary, from my perspective, the Toronto Convention, was a great success. a) huge numbers were not intended and the premises booked reflected this view. b)in my experience, local people tend not to attend an international Convention as they prefer a more 'exotic' location well away from home and where they can combine attendance with a short holiday. For instance, I could invariably get people attending our ISTE Seminars in London, from distant Johannesburg or Fiji then from across the road and in walking distance to the event! c) Having said this however, I understand that the 1988 Toronto Convention was extremely well attended by local people. This may well have been true in 1988 and designed/planned for large numbers. c)in 2008 in Toronto I have now discovered that there were many potential scores to be settled by some. The scene was therefore not very different from weddings and funerals where things get bottled up, boil up to the surface and explode to an intrigued unsuspecting audience! I was however further saddened to learn on my return to London, that relations among some Goans in Toronto are not terribly cordial. Apart from competing interest groups, I have been informed from reliable sources that the caste issue that, so upset Victor Rangel Ribeiro in Lisbon last year, does seem to simmer under the surface among Toronto Goans. This is of course, the great Goan export that tends to get swept under the carpet among Catholic Goans rather readily. If this aspect of what I have heard is not true, I hope Eugene Correia and any others will throw more light on this and other issues. Despite the substantial criticism from just one attendee, I say well done to Kevin and his team for much success in difficult circumstances. Although
Re: [Goanet] Goan Tolerance
Good to see this thoughtful opposition to the continuing incitement of hatred against non-Goan Indians in all its forms. The solution to Goa's problems is law-abiding Goans. There should be a grass roots campaign to promote honesty in public affairs, and respect for the law, for each other, and for our heritage, rather than whine and complain day in and day out, and blame others for our problems. Cheers, Santosh --- On Tue, 8/12/08, Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't see increasing numbers - just a small handful of Goans, dreaming of days gone by. The increasing numbers more correctly describe the new-Goans who have discovered the beauty and charm of Goa. There are, in fact, several Goan Identities, each in the eye of its beholders, some of which, like the caste system, continue the damage they have done for centuries and need to be abolished by being shunned in day-to-day decisionmaking.
[Goanet] Goanet Reformat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Airport Bomb Scare (By Remo Fernandes, The Navhind Times)
Whatever the reason=2C nobody=2C however popular=2Cmighty or powerful is not above the law and cannot take the law in his own hands. An accused cannot be the judge himself and decide whether the car was parked for ten minutes or less. Security posted at every airport is never local and rightly so. We do not wish to compromise security because one popular pop star is known to a local security personel and allows him to go just because he recognises him to be a pop star. Security has to be objective and the best way to do it is to have people from outside the state who objectively look upon every passenger as just another passenger and not a star. Let us to mix security at the airports with other irrelevant issues and confuse the people. Francisco de Braganca [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Goanet] Goa-World.Com Team [Kuwait} wishes ALL THE BEST for organizers of GULAB silver jubilee celebrations in Kuwait
GULAB SILVER JUBILEE CELEBRATIONS IN KUWAIT Gulab Silver Jubilee Celebrations will kick off on 61st India’s Independence Day, August 15, 2008, with Konkani Tiatr “Ghorabachea Vantte” written and directed by Mario Menezes (Tragedy King) which will be held at the Hawally A.C. Auditorium (Masrah Hawally) at 4:15 p.m. sharp. Mario Menezes, the Director with continous super hits and GULAB Award 2006 winner for best script and direction, will accompany his full cast of artistes, singers and musicians from Goa: the best child artiste Gulab Award 2007 winner 'Baby Rioma', Rosy Alvares, Agnes, Comedian Joana, Lawry Travasso, Mario de Vasco, Edison and the King of Mimicry ‘Sheik Amir’. Music by Augusto de Panchwadi and James. For Gate passes contact Raja Stores (Kuwait City) Tel: 2412970, MM Confectionery (Salmiya) Tel: 5619946, (Abbasiya) Tel: 9106617, (Fahaheel) Tel: 9884681, (Khaitan) Tel: 9391452, (Farwaniya) Tel: 9540232 “GULAB” the only standard Konkani language monthly magazine published in Goa has approximately 40,000 readerships in Goa, Mumbai, Mangalore, Gulf States, Canada, U.K., U.S.A., Australia and other countries. It has onboard prominent writers covering social, cultural, arts, among others issues with an encouraging attitude for promoting new talents. These programmes are organized by Konkani lovers in Kuwait in coordination with the Gulab Working Committee (Kuwait) under the auspices of Kala Mogui Kuwait (KMK). A special issue of “GULAB” and a colorful souvenir will be published focusing Goan/Magalorean organizations in Kuwait (social, cultural, arts, sports) and prominent personalities among the community in view of the continued supports towards the cause of “GULAB” and the common binding link between the Konkan people, our mother tongue, Konkani.
Re: [Goanet] media slut -- pot calling the keetle black
Rajan Narayan??? Cedric, are you not Lynching the wrong bandicoot? AT Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 03:37:56 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] media slut -- pot calling the keetle blackMedia slut -- pot calling the keetle black i feel rajan narayan has done more to Goa than taking pictures from afar and triggring panic among Goans and trying to create a state of obstruction in the development of Goa... perfect gutter crab this... so now what? after all avenues fail the saffron lensed bandicoot is trying to sing a hymn in a goan church in day light only to deface/defame it in the darkness of night? Goans are far too smart to see through this... Cedric da Costa Dubai _ Discover the new Windows Vista http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=windows+vistamkt=en-USform=QBRE
[Goanet] Lourdes Miracles
Hi, I do not know who this JK is. Is she Portuguese? WELL, similar miracles were performed by a portuguese lady. Example: The person who does painless surgery in Philippines without cutting the skin has been declared as fake, all the blood and gore that he produces are hidden in a condome, which he bursts while doing his tirckery. ED. - --- On Sun, 8/10/08, Fr. Ivo C da Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can it be pious fraud? Has Julia Kim done it in the presence of so many people? Has she put hen's meat in her mouth? Is this the scientific explanation? Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Community initiatives supported by veterinarians.
It is heartening to see community initiatives being promoted by my colleagues. I'm sure there are others who work quietly in the background. Joy de Souza is a colleague from Bombay Veterinary College, now a veterinarian in Australia married to fellow Saligaokar Louis. She has been very involved with community events and associations in Australia for many years. Joyce D'Souza Shamshudin is a veterinarian in Kenya who is involved with the Goan Welfare Society in Kenya. Her sister, June is also a veterinarian, owning her own hospital in Barrie, ON. June's daughter attended the Design workshop by Wendell Rodricks at the 2008 International Goan Convention. Sal Rocha, who attended the 2008 International Goan Convention is the vice president of TEGSA (Toronto East-end Senior Goan Association). He enjoyed Victor's writing workshop and hopes to pen (type?) his spiritual memoirs shortly. A few years ago, I started an online forum for Goan veterinarians worldwide which has a membership of approximately 45 currently. Of those, about a dozen reside in and around the Toronto area. Kevin Saldanha Mississauga, ON. === following messages edited for brevity == Message: 8 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 22:14:33 +1000 From: Joy de Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] WGD Celebrations in Brisbane, Australia Tumkaan sogleank Aamontron ditaun aamchea Bazaar Disaak yeopaak: (We invite you all to come for our Market Day. ) held on the fourth Sunday Club day on 24 August 2008 to celebrate World Goa day and Bazaar Dis held at Warrigal Road State School from 2pm to 5pm snip The Club will provide tea and coffee. Please bring a plate of 'afternoon tea' to share. Joy de Souza Brisbane -- Message: 9 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:24:51 +0300 From: Dr.Joyce D'Souza Shamshudin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Goaday - reminder Dear Members and Friends, The executive committee of the GWS will be celebrating the World Goa Day on Sunday 31st August 2008. Venue : Goan Institute, Nairobi Mass: 11.30 am followed by Lunch. at the GI Charges Adult members- 500/- per person Adult Non- Members- 700/- per person Children under 12 - 300/- per child PLEASE MARK THIS IMPORTANT DATE IN YOUR DIARY! snip Name OfficeMobile Joyce Shamshudin4451295 0733-616947 Sincerely, for GWS Secretary -- http://2008goanconvention.blogspot.com/ ==
[Goanet] Lola's post
I had written an article on the editorial page of The Navhind Times either on the day or the day before of the 1990 International Goan Youth Convention, held in December. I don't remember the dates of the convention. It explians the genesis of International Goan Organization (IGO). I may be having the article but need to search for it once I return to Dubai. I also think it has appeared on Goanet. Eugene
[Goanet] TIME TO STAND UNITED !
Dears, This is one view point we would all do well to read. The truth is slowly revealing itself: see it unfold in the days to come ...till the Regional Plan for Goa is unvieled. The likely date is Saturday 30 August, 2008. Three things happen that day 1. the Monsoon session of the Goa Assembly concludes and 2. it is the last weekend before Ganesh Chaturthi ...a day when people start migrating to their Mul gaons to celebrate the festival and 3. schools break for holidays These three points are very useful in minimising the chance of an instant reaction against the Regional Plan 2021. Soon the masks will peel off and the truth will reveal itself. It is my earnest endeavour to see that the GBA is NOT the same as KPA once more. Your support will help. If there is no support, it will not deter me from doing what I know to be right. I would rather sleep as a pauper with just a xendri and bedsheet on the floor, but not toss without sleep on a feathered mattress in an airconditioned house. I count Roland Martins [GOACAN] and Soter D'Souza [CPR-PS], fellow alumni in St.Britto High School, Mapusa-Goa, as two others who are as willing as I. There are afew others ... not many ... in the GBA who would do likewise for the sake of the land they love, GOA. The time to support is NOW. Success always has a thousand fathers, Failure dies alone. We often abort Success thinking it is Failure [often an euphemism for the girl child] as six million couples do annually in India and as a couple was trying in the High Court recently in the 25th week of pregnancy when the Indian law permits it up to the 20th week only . and most religions do not allow it at all. The GBA is not a Failure. I will do my best to prevent its miscarriage ... or abortion on the advice of a doctor who, admittedly, is not quite sure. The parents must own up responsibility for their action. The child was not conceived by the doctor who monitored its growth and issued periodic reports. Mog asundi. Miguel Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 19:22:39 +0530 From: Navendu Shirali [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] GOANET - TIME TO STAND UNITED ! Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Today, the Editor of Navhind Times is attempting to tear down the GBA in his article The Great Goan Illusion-http://www.navhindtimes.com/story.php?story=2008081210 giving analogy of children fighting in Kitchen. coincidently the article name rhymes with article -THE GREAT GOAN UPRISING published in Herald - http://navendushirali.blogspot.com/2008/05/apologies-for-bad-resolution-will-try.html Very painful to see, that the only united opposition to real estate and illegal mining is speculated for a breaking down in eyes of citizens. I wonder if this was a master stroke by real estate n mining lobby, involve the GBA in RP draft, spread the rumour of sell outs, attack the credibility of the main leaders, result, the sharpest arrows is now withdrawn. (Reminds me Chanakya's Arthashastra) Both Jesus and Ram always stood as for Apology, restitution and love. Somewhere there is Gandhism missing in each one of us. I hope this forum unites in spite of all individualistic ideologies; there is a bigger cause we need to focus on, 3 big battles awaits us, The Real Estate Lobby, SEZs that don't meet local aspirations, and the super finals against Illegal Mining. Each one of them becomes more powerful every time we disintegrate and tear down credibility of each other. We know that Goa is 0.1% of India Geographic area, for them its highest premium property, lowest cost of minerals, and they only thing that can stop them is us, the citizens of Goa. Our generation, lies on threshold to see whether Citizens of Goa remain as united as these Lobbies, Wrong will always remain wrong, even if everyone does it. Right will always remain right, even if no one does it. Jai Hind, Navendu Shirali Share files, take polls, and make new friends - all under one roof. Go to http://in.promos.yahoo.com/groups/
[Goanet] Goanet Reader: A tale of two cartoonists
--- THE PRINTED WORD --- A tale of two cartoonists Cartoonists, and careers, in this week's review of books from Goa by FREDERICK FN NORONHA. Goan tiatr was born, ironical though it may seem, in Bombay. So seems to be the case also with the cartoon. At least till this point of time, some of the big names in Goan cartooning have come out of the Big City some 600 kms from here. By some coincidence, over the past few weeks, a couple of books dedicated to two cartoonists made their way to the bookshop. Both have strong Bombay, rather than Mumbai, links. 'Mario de Miranda' is a large-sized, impressive, fairly steeply priced tribute to one of India's best known cartoonist, who probably hasn't been sufficiently celebrated back in his own home. The other, also shrink-wrapped, is by Alexyz, the pen-name of Alex Raphael Fernandes. As GT readers would surely know, Alexyz is a Siolim-based cartoonist who has made his presence felt in Goa since the early 1980s with various Goan publications. Specially with a number of fiery cartoons during the language agitation in the then Rajan Narayan-edited Herald. Prominent architect Gerard da Cunha, known for his deep interest in things Goan notwithstanding the occasional controversy over a fort restorations, has done a fine job in bringing together the contributions of Loutolim-based Mario de Miranda. Sketches of a young Mario talk of another Goa, and are worth seeing specially for this aspect. Strangely, an artist as prolific as Mario has just three books prior to this. These are: 'A Little World of Humour', 'Goa With Love' and 'Laugh It Off'. Of course, he has collaborated in the creation of nine other books. But then, most of his major exhibitions have been held all over the world, rather than in Goa itself. Mario has a Padma Shree and a Padma Bushan by way of national awards, but just one Government of Goa award! It was smart of a creative architect to note the gap and fill it with this comprehensive tribute to a much-appreciated artist. Mario's earlier work, in particular, gives an interesting insight into the Goa that was. Even if, perhaps specially, because it comes from the perspective of an elite which has seen fortunes change more than once in the past generation. His biography by Manohar Malgonkar is particularly interesting. One nugget is the story of how Mario copes with the end of Portuguese rule in Goa, in 1961. It was with some trepidation that he called at the India Office and applied for an Indian passport. He was both surprised and delighted when, after no more than a routine delay, they gave him a passport The old house stood just as he remembered it, dignified and welcoming. But he found its door firmly shut. It turned out that an Army unit was in occupation. They were polite but firm. He could not go in. For more of the story, check the book itself. Priced somewhat steep at Rs 2700 (hard-bound, large size). This 2008-published 284-page work is edited by Bevinda Collaco and Gerard da Cunha. is published by Architecture Autonomous, JSW and Art India. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Miranda and http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=mario%20mirandaw=17364099%40N00 GOAING? 'Goa... Goan... Goaing... Gone...?' is the 189-page hard-bound book by Alexyz, my former colleague in the Herald. He then had a stint with the Navhind and is currently with the Gomantak Times. To understand Alexyz's work, one needs to know the person. He was a college student in the Bombay of the 1960s, a generation that saw the Urbs Prima In Indis grow cancerously. From being an impressive city into a crowded, concretised, slum-ridden centre ruled by gangsters, communal armies, land mafias and politicians expert at manipulating and making crores out of changing a few digits of the FSI (floor-space index) and related scams. Together with some friends (like Dr Claude and Norma Alvares, journalist Valentino Fernandes, lawyer Jos Peter D'Souza), Alexyz returned to the homeland earlier generations had migrated out from. While returning expat Goans have undoubtedly contributed a great deal to the Goa of today, the fact is that their perspective is, well, their perspective. To be honest, this reviewer is also one of them! When Alexyz sees signs of Goa going the Bombay way, he is understandably alarmed. But his book is full of warnings, focussing on how mismanaged things are in Goa currently, and how crooked our politicians are. All this is undeniably true. But focussing excessively on the negatives, as our media often does, can lead one into being pessimistic or gloomy. Blaming the politician alone absolves us of our own guilt. This seems to be precisely the affliction which a wide section of (middle class, particularly) Goans today suffer from. Yes, it is important to preserve what we have. But it is also crucial to also build for tomorrow. To remain optimistic. To have faith that there are also people with good intentions, who
[Goanet] Calling former Paulites(ex-St Paul's High School, Belgaum)
Thanks to my one time class mate and friend(Marcos Gomes Catao), I was put in touch with Orlando Oliveira who, with a team of helpers, produces The Paulite Link - a magazine connecting former Paulites worldwide I have just received the second issue of the magazine which is full of interesting articles and photographs, including a Directory of Paulites worldwide(this is being regularly up-dated). If any former Paulite goanetters are not aware of this Link, can I suggest that they contact Ollie Oiveira at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Editorial Board are most anxious that those who had any connection with St. Paul's Belgaum, get in touch with Orlando. The magazine is sure to take you on a trip down memory lane. Mervyn Maciel
[Goanet] Goa for Goans - an alternative
Unless Goans are passionate enough about this and willing to demonstrate their passion by queuing up for self immolation in front of Goa State Legislature no Government at the State or Centre is going to pay heed to this demand. Dreams of Kashmir like status will not materialise unless self immolations start. Since I don't see this queue forming the only way out is to emigrate to the USofA or Canada or Australia and re-create our own little ethnic localities there a-la-Southall.
[Goanet] GBA or OBA?
To Goanet - It is reliably learnt that hectic moves are afoot by the Margao builder lobby and its chelas to rehabilitate their blue-eyed dolly in an upcoming meeting of the GBA: Goa Bachao Abhiyan is about to transmute into Oscar Bachao Abhiyan. The media hacks have already gone to work portraying the resignation of Dr. Oscar Rebello as an internal assassination job on the good doctor's character and work. The truth is the exact opposite. The GBA leadership has betrayed the cause and the Goan people by aligning itself with the interests of the political establishment and the builder's lobby. Indeed, SOME GBA LEADERS ARE PART OF THE MARGAO BUILDER'S LOBBY AND THIS IS NOT EVEN A SECRET. It appears that the non-Goan 'media consultant' Sujay Gupta has been recruited in a desperate effort to fashion a new myth about Oscar Rebello. The pathetic, shameful newspaper Herald does not reveal to its readers that Gupta is a paid hack. Gupta likes to ask others for their source of income. It would be nice if Sujay Gupta himself told us first the source of his paychecks, official and unofficial, in cash and in kind. Completing the troika of hired non-Goan media hitmen is one specializing in fondling underage girls, and another who can be won over a bottle or two of cheap booze. Watch out for more gymnastics by the Margao builder lobby and its henchmen in the days ahead. Note that although we coin the phrase Margao builder lobby it does not mean that this cabal is an exclusive Margao operation. The partners-in-crime come from all over India and are united in their common goal of plundering Goa for personal profit. It is just that the nerve centre for all the machinations is headquartered in Margao - for this Margao coterie has very close ties to Digu (their full-time partner in real estate dealings and part-time CM of Goa). This Margao-based lobby has infiltrated key sections of Goan society, it has leverage over the media, and it has its moles positioned within the GBA. That its nefarious designs have been exposed does not mean it will not try to stage a new circus. Warm regards, r
[Goanet] RESPECT OUR RIGHT TO IDENTITY
** * *Goans are increasingly opposing Land Sales to Non-Goans. I request Non-Goans to appreciate our basis. Yes, Goans can buy land in many Indian states/Western countries. But let's look at this in a bigger perspective; *this time globally*; I'll take the UK example, just to drive my point. I read an impressive column recently in the UAE media by a UK government minister. It was ref. the new UK immigration laws; highlight was while the UK has to be fair to other countries, at the same time it needed them, particularly India in the letter, to respect each nations right to protect its genuine interests. We appreciate why the UK/Western Countries i.e. MainGlobalisation/Democratic Free Worlddrivers enact controls against non-locals. In UK, non-locals can buy land, but immigration controls ensure that the UK is not open to all. Those questioning my views from UAE, please note that although locals here are in minority there are safeguards e.g. No Expatriate Political Rights, No Citizenship, Restrictive Real Estate Buying laws etc. to ensure that the UAE remains with its people. Each community has limits to which non-locals can buy land/emigrate (with political rights). Goa has way crossed this limit; beyond which we have to put safeguards; the current rate will make Goans irrelevant no community can accept the same for themselves. I'd argue today that Goans are more tolerant than most other communities. The REAL ISSUE is that GOA HAS NO CONTROLS ON REAL ESTATE PURCHASES/IMMIGRATION (mostly non local Indians). For those quoting the constitution (A) Goa had no influence to framing of the constitution i.e. India acquisition of Goa much later in 1961 (B) Some states have special provisions; Goa is also an exception; just because we * failed* to get safeguards in 1961, does not right the wrong (C) The Constitution is not cast in stone and for just basis, should be modified to protect the people; from which a democratic constitution should have been driven; not vice-versa!! I accept criticism that Goans are to be blamed significantly for the issue because of our actions/in-actions; but also issues of Land Sales to Non-Goans Uncontrolled Migration are significant and need to be addressed urgently. Goans should support your right to your identity/interests, likewise please respect our right to the same. *Arwin Mesquita, Abu Dhabi.* -- Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/
[Goanet] TUESDAY TANTRUMS: Babush, a Trojan horse?
BABUSH: A TROJAN HORSE? Babush has finally made it to the cabinet, and although many may think the move will lend some sort of stability to the Digambar Kamat-led government, there are a few in the government that think otherwise. Babush's induction means, the cabinet now has a little less than half its members who are non-Congress MLAs -- Jose Philip D'Souza and Francisco (Mickky) Pacheco of the NCP, Ramkrishna (Sudhin) Dhavlikar of the MGP, Vishwajeet Rane (Independent) and Babush himself. Could this prove to be the government's waterloo? Consider these facts. In the 39-member House (Pale seat is vacant after Gurudas Gawas' death) the Congress has a strength of 17 MLAs. It's in government because it has the support of the three NCP MLAs, Vishwajeet, MGP's Dhavlikar brothers and now Babush, which makes the tally 24. So, if you keep the Speaker, Pratapsing Rane out, that means the Congress has as many as nine MLAs who are not ministers. And, this figure of nine includes two wounded soldiers in Dayanand Narvekar and Pandurang Madkaikar. The last time such a thing happened, post-1999 elections under the leadership of then CM Luizinho Faleiro, the Congress lost a government. Too many non-Congress MLAs in the ruling benches meant the loyalists like Francisco Sardinha, who so famously said he was angry because his tail was stamped, led the coup to tie up with the BJP and run a government for 11 months. Now, will history repeat itself? Is there an omnimous sign in Babush refusing police security? Has he forgiven Digambar Kamat for the police brutalities (sic) against him, his wife Jennifer and son? Will he play Trojan Horse? Let's wait and see. PARRIKAR IS BACK The BJP's media propaganda machine seems to have got a sudden overhaul in the last two weeks. The reason? Obviously Manohar Parrikar. The Leader of the Opposition was away in the United States for almost a month and boy, didn't we miss him! Evidence of that is in the editions we produced in the days after his return. 'Special Status' for Goa, he thundered, forcing perhaps all newsrooms to splash the news on their Page Ones. A refreshing change for the Opposition party, at least as far as us journos is concerned. The saffron brigade's press conferences were indeed getting increasingly boring with their spokesmen holding fort solo sans Parrikar. While, Govind Parvatkar has a signature monotone, Rajendra Arlekar just doesn't seem to look beyond Jose Philip D'Souza and his Civil Supplies portfolio. MIND YOUR TONGUE Not all Goan politicians have forked tongues. There are exceptions. Chandrakant alias Babu Kavlekar the boyish looking MLA from Quepem (fourth from right) has a tweaked tongue as you can see from the photo taken by our photographer. There's actually a very valid reason as to why we have called him boyish. Even at this age, Chandu still hankers after chow. Remember all the fuss he created over the food park? It almost seemed like he was undergoing a prolonged spasm of hunger, going by the way Chandu held onto the 'food' project. But could there be another reason Chandu has tweaked his tongue? Why would an honourable MLA elected by several thousand voters chose a photo opportunity to take his tongue out for a walk. Is it inspired by the sight of Manohar Parrikar congratulating Babush Monserrate? Maybe, because remember a short time back (that's 'long ago' in Goan politics) it was Parrikar who gave Babush, his first taste of sarkari power. That's exactly about a year after Parrikar had alleged that a certain 'money lender' from Taleigao, along with a certain minister's son were partners in a sex racket. WHAT'S THIS JOURNO BASHING? After Gomantak's Soiru Komarpant was beaten by cops in June, another journalist Raju Naik from Tarun Bharat was beaten by some beer swilling bikers along the Ribander patto. Be it the cops or anti-social elements, a beating anyway hurts. Journalists as a fraternity are not going to forget this very soon. And there's something else that we are going to remember for some time to come now. That's the Inspector General of Police (IGP) Kishen Kumar's 'off record' comment to the media following the incident. When reporters questioned him about the incident, Kishen Kumar said that the media was making a fuss about this incident only because it was a journalist that was beaten up. He also claimed that it was only a 'coincidence'. Has Kishen Kumar forgotten the extent to which the cops went, when some of the policemen were 'beaten' by the Monseratte-led mob which attacked the Panjim police station. It's time to act for Mr Kumar. First, curb the rate of crime, and then maybe some of your 'off record' comments. OF JAMIR, PARRIKAR AND HEARING AIDS Governments are often hard of hearing. That's what Bhagat Singh thought and hence he thought of that blast in the parliament ruse. But looks like the malaise has spread to governors too. One of the reasons why Parrikar is so desperate to get the information on the
[Goanet] Airport Bomb Scare
Dear Selma, I want to ask you one question only. Would the British Immigration Department employ you if you could not speak English? As for B.N.P.asking where are my countrymen we are a minority in this country,knowing you have just migrated from U.S. you must not have seen the obvious. Other than that I admire you and read your posts avidly. Mog Asundi Ignatius Fernandes _ Win New York holidays with Kellogg’s Live Search http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/107571440/direct/01/
[Goanet] Goa news for August 13, 2008
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Heavy rains likely to lash Mumbai, Goa - Sahara Samay [13 hours ago] Downpour is also likely over districts of Central Maharashtra, Marathwada and Vidarbha and over Goa during the same period. Meanwhile, rains continued to ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/9-0fd=Rurl=http://www.saharasamay.com/samayhtml/articles.aspx?newsid=103837cid=0ei=-RyiSInaL6PKgAOzt5n1Cwusg=AFQjCNFV6YDhnFs3oK1jFeCteNkyZw5TpQ *** Stay with Sesa Goa, says Mohoni - Moneycontrol.com [15 hours ago] Technical Analyst, Deepak Mohoni is of the view that one can hold Sesa Goa for long term. Mohoni told CNBC-TV18,Sesa Goa is an excellent long-term hold. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/8-0fd=Rurl=http://news.moneycontrol.com/india/news/stocks-views/staysesa-goa-says-mohoni/13/33/351579cid=0ei=-RyiSInaL6PKgAOzt5n1Cwusg=AFQjCNGHoE6YIs5vPePs27YMwaXKIr5RVQ *** Kotak Securities puts BUY on Sesa Goa - Livemint [13 hours ago] Sesa Goa went ex-bonus (1:1) and ex-split (10:1) on August 8 2008, which means that there are now 20 shares trading of face value Re1 per share against each ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/7-0fd=Rurl=http://www.livemint.com/2008/08/12145853/Kotak-Securities-puts-BUY-on-S.htmlcid=0ei=-RyiSInaL6PKgAOzt5n1Cwusg=AFQjCNE9yHbibtFn7RC1I1kA7A-zpTO7tQ *** Remain invested in Sesa Goa: Tulsian - Moneycontrol.com [11 hours ago] Investment Advisor SP Tulsian is of the view that one can remain investedin Sesa Goa. Tulsian told CNBC-TV18, Sesa Goa has given 1:1 bonus and they have ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/6-0fd=Rurl=http://www.moneycontrol.com/india/news/stocks-views/remain-investedsesa-goa-tulsian/17/55/351584cid=0ei=-RyiSInaL6PKgAOzt5n1Cwusg=AFQjCNHnUyRi3HCjSQyttD46pb4eulK34w *** Flood threatens Goa - Hindu [Aug 10, 2008] Sankhalim (Goa) (PTI): District administration warily eyed the Valvonti river swollen by the incessant rain as the residents here spent their entire night ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/5-0fd=Rurl=http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/00420080801.htmcid=1235767494ei=-RyiSInaL6PKgAOzt5n1Cwusg=AFQjCNFIfqPORqIng8mIWY4nbkwoQtpPwg *** Heavy rains continue to lash Maharashtra, Goa - Hindu [Aug 11, 2008] Mumbai (PTI): Heavy rains continued to lash Maharashtra and Goa on Monday as one person was washed away at Nashik and people living alongside the Mutha ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/4-0fd=Rurl=http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/001200808111552.htmcid=1235728873ei=-RyiSInaL6PKgAOzt5n1Cwusg=AFQjCNHIrKHeF10bqNQ_L_C87k9qVWhxAw *** Goa Marriott organises Independence Week food festival - Economic Times [Aug 11, 2008] 11 Aug, 2008, 1704 hrs IST, PTI NEW DELHI: Five-star luxury resort Goa Marriott on Monday announced that it is organising a 10-day-long food festival to ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/3-0fd=Rurl=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/News_By_Industry/Services/Goa_Marriott_organises_Independence_Week_food_festival/articleshow/3352586.cmscid=0ei=-RyiSInaL6PKgAOzt5n1Cwusg=AFQjCNFtPnoMeq7NJBsy0o-rNQ27C6xJtw *** Goa govt in quandary over denotifying SEZs - Economic Times [23 hours ago] NEW DELHI : The Centre, which has not taken any step till now to denotify the SEZs as demanded by the state, may do so only if the Goa government is able to ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/2-0fd=Rurl=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Economy/Goa_govt_in_quandary_over_SEZs/articleshow/3353991.cmscid=0ei=-RyiSInaL6PKgAOzt5n1Cwusg=AFQjCNGX8LnROixkdAvngPmt1LEQS8VZmw *** Peace panel to be formed in South Goa - Times of India [21 hours ago] MARGAO: South Goa collector GP Naik has proposed to constitute a three tier peace committee for managing conflict situations arising in south Goa district. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/1-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Peace_panel_to_be_formed_in_South_Goa/articleshow/3354046.cmscid=0ei=-RyiSInaL6PKgAOzt5n1Cwusg=AFQjCNHlkBI-HDmHgSM_iNBC4TFxn7N_Jw *** Goa is the place to be for Bollywood - Hindustan Times [8 hours ago] Goa is definitely the favourite holiday spot for most Bollywood celebrities. From Esha Deol and Arshad Warsi to Imtiaz Ali and Malaika Arora Khan - they all ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/0-0fd=Rurl=http://www.hindustantimes.com/Redir.aspx?ID=63c9edc2-aad9-4eaf-bb1b-4bada15ab17fParentID=2112fc58-e762-4cad-afbe-6a57c896882bcid=0ei=-RyiSInaL6PKgAOzt5n1Cwusg=AFQjCNGUUJr8q9D-9QbIA9Ub13ihlCokxg Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
[Goanet] History: Those un-earthly paddy fields of Goa
I feel, when talking of history, one should first lay down ones own status on the table, so all can gauge ones bias. I am not a Goan, but trace my ancestry to Goa - to Goltim - part of present day Sao Matias village in the river island of Devar. I am a GSB, an agnostic. I beleve in free markets, but when it comes to history, I lean a bit towards Marxist views. Compare Goan paddy fields to that of any other in India: Say Tamil Nadu, Karnataka or UP, they seem like they are from another planet. Go to google earth and watch them - they have their severest form around Verna in south Goa. They are so perfectly geometric - they are of equal sizes. Some field bunds run in a straight line for more than 2000 feet! I did a bit of ameture search on the net on their history - with no results. I know a little about communidado and goan history. Who made those paddy fields in such organized manner? How old are they? What was the structure of the ancient socity which could plan in such a massive scale and execute it? Any comments? [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Goanet] Talking Photos- New Panjim Pics: Azad Maidan AZAD for all etc
To Goanet - Joe, Thank you for doing this. This is simply the ongoing, what I refer to as, 'ghatification' of Goa. The CCP and the Goa govt are in violation of the High Court order following the PIL on Panjim. I have filed a contempt petition. Let's see when it comes up on the board. Lamentably, the citizens of Panjim are asleep (they wake up only to attend their Jaycee dinners or to dribble here on Goanet). Let me reprise the photo gallery The Ghatification of Panjim posted here in March 2008 - http://www.parrikar.org/images/ghatification/index.html r Talking Photos: Azad Maidan AZAD for all etc Azad Maidan AZAD for all (see the insert, 4 migrant sleeping all 4 sides) http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk_dirtypanjim/2756871986/sizes/l/ Also used as playground Panjim new Market: Vendors using the main passage in protest http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk_dirtypanjim/2756043829/sizes/l/ Peeing http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk_dirtypanjim/2756043523/sizes/l/ Check this garbage/rubbish dump right below the CCP notice board (Azad Maidan ) http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk_dirtypanjim/2756037859/sizes/l/ No Parking, danger of roof falling (see also rugs-bags taking shelter during rain) http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk_dirtypanjim/2756037437/sizes/l/ Azad maidan used as rug-bag storage and playground for migrants http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk_dirtypanjim/2756871316/sizes/l/ Peeing http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk_dirtypanjim/2756871624/sizes/l/ All pics taken today 12/8/08 pm Joegoauk at yahoo.co.uk
Re: [Goanet] Lola's post
Are you sure it was posted on Goanet? Couldn't be... unless it was posted later. Because Goanet was launched in 1994. And the 14th birthday comes up shortly :-) FN 2008/8/12 Eugene Correia [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I had written an article on the editorial page of The Navhind Times either on the day or the day before of the 1990 International Goan Youth Convention, held in December. I don't remember the dates of the convention. It explians the genesis of International Goan Organization (IGO). I may be having the article but need to search for it once I return to Dubai. I also think it has appeared on Goanet. Eugene -- FN * Independent Journalist http://fn.goa-india.org 784 Nr Convent, Saligao 403511 Goa India Ph +91-832-2409490 M: +91-9970157402 Software for Kids Blog: http://softwareforkids.wordpress.com
Re: [Goanet] 28 Years After: An Olympic Gold
[Goanet] 28 Years After: An Olympic Gold - the Moira Connection Dears Abhinav Bindra has won a gold medal at the Olympics. This is the first medal that India has got after 28 years. That means the last Gold medal India won was in the 1980 Moscow Olympics where we won a Gold in the women's hockey competition. Folks, I was waiting for someone else to correct this. However, since no one else is willing, I will do so myself. The 1980 Olympic gold in field hockey was won by India's MENS team. The WOMENS gold was won by the Zimbabwe team. Mervyn3.0 __ Instant Messaging, free SMS, sharing photos and more... Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger at http://ca.beta.messenger.yahoo.com/
[Goanet] Re.Goan Tolerance
Mario Can you put your ANTI-GOAN IDENTITY views in the Goa's Media; lets see what Goans in Goa have to say about it. Below are addresses of the Goan Newspapers. , [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], Arwin -- Mario asks: I don't see increasing numbers - just a small handful of Goans, dreaming of days gone by. The increasing numbers more correctly describe the new-Goans who have discovered the beauty and charm of Goa. There are, in fact, several Goan Identities, each in the eye of its beholders, some of which, like the caste system, continue the damage they have done for centuries and need to be abolished by being shunned in day-to-day decisionmaking.
[Goanet] Re. Goan Tolerance
Santosh, Its more of Blind opposition not thoughtful. Your habit is to misinterpret posts for vested interests; my letter was not inciting hatred. Can you put your Anti-Goan identity views on the Goan newspapers; lets see what Goans in Goa have to say about it? I am sure you have the addresses. Arwin Good to see this thoughtful opposition to the continuing incitement of hatred against non-Goan Indians in all its forms. The solution to Goa's problems is law-abiding Goans. There should be a grass roots campaign to promote honesty in public affairs, and respect for the law, for each other, and for our heritage, rather than whine and complain day in and day out, and blame others for our problems. Cheers, Santosh
