[Goanet] Newspapers on line: My personal observations

[Stephen Dias]

-In these days of election fever people tend to go online early morning
to read news papers but unfortunately  no newspapers starts till 7 AM or
sometimes even  late except Navhind Times which starts early in the
morning, and the  last is Gomantak Times.
Heraldo is the second to appear on line after Navhind Times.
Hope they will improve in days to come, as people are excited to know the
elections news.
 My friends in foreign countries tells me why your local papers are still
sleeping.
 Once just recently it so happen that  in one of the local paper one
Independent candidate photo appeared on line in a Add.box and was removed
soon. But never appeared in hard copy. The name of the candidate is Helena
Lourenco Independent.from St Cruz.
Such thing should not happened. This shows a bad performance of that
particular paper.
HEM KITEM CHOLTA GOEANT? PAPER PASSUN SARKEM CHOLONAM.
 FORGET ABOUT POLITICIANS THEY WILL NEVER WORK.

stephen dias

[Goanet] Trump Interview 25 years ago

[Roland Francis]

You got to hand it to DJT, grudgingly or not. 

He does what he said or says.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/MOKi5YeNtRI

Roland Francis
Toronto.

Re: [Goanet] (no subject)

[Jim Fernandes]

Hey Jules,

I completely agree with you. Heck  - even Bill Clinton agrees with you. Guess 
what - even Bill is a descendent of immigrants.

The only problem with your little theory is that you choose to be blind or deaf 
or both.

Please get off of your high horse and do some soul searching.

Here ... Please check this out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3yesvvYEvs

There is a difference between legal and illegal immigration. I am a legal 
immigrant and Trump has no problems with people like me. I am not some idiot 
who jumped the ship, or over-stayed my tourist visa or swam across Rio Grande 
or willingly chose to live off of the welfare system of the United States.

Cheers,

Jim Fernandes
Scarsdale, NY.


On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 13:40:21 +, Jules Fausto Mendonca de Sa 
 wrote:

> Immigration – a Taboo word
> 
> Two major world events from 2016; namely Brexit on June 23rd and the US 
> Presidential Election on 8th November were both won using Immigration as a 
> fear factor. 
...
...
> 
> These individuals very cleverly appealed to the silent communities who blamed 
> new comers for their own complacency or inadequacies. These silent 
> communities conveniently forgot that they were also descended from Immigrants 
> who chose to move away from their natural habitats. Immigration and its pros 
> and cons would require to be written in book form as there is much to 
> discuss. My thoughts are about the selfishness and anger expressed by our own 
> small Goan community and worse of all by these Immigrants themselves.
> 
...
...

[Goanet] Clarifying Moment? How Stupid! Here's A Defining Moment

[Jim Fernandes]

A friend of mine sent this over to me as I am a big fan of Bill Clinton. After 
you watch this video, you are going to love the Lefties all over again. I kid 
you not.

Serously?

Yeah ... Seriously, man. But just make sure, you watch the video at least 2 or 
3 times to get a full gist of what Bill says. It's not that long ... barely a 
minute or two.

I feel like a complete idiot for supporting Trump. Can I become a Hillary 
supporter now? Or is it too late? Poor me.

Could one of you please send this over to CNN, ABC, NBC, CNBC, MSNBC, CBS etc 
??? I am sure, they would love to give it plenty of air time ... to screw Trump 
over and over again.

Friggin' hypocrites gave Bill a standing ovation, man. I love it. Bill is my 
hero!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3yesvvYEvs

Loves,

Jim Fernandes.
Scarsdale, NY.
(A center-lefty who voted for Trump)

[Goanet] At Village Level: Chorao Ferry Crossing - Clean-up-activity

[Gilbert Lawrence]

In our (and several other) town in America, members of the Rotary Club have a 
6-monthly road clean-up drive also called "adopt a (segment of the) highway" 
and spend a Saturday morning to clean-up the stuff dropped by motorist. This 
keeps the town clean and community members and leaders doing free community 
service.
No (colonial) politics!  Just good community service.  Try it!
Regards;  GL
===From: Bernado Colaco 

It is a shame that young Goans spend only one day to clean their towns and 
villages. This is what we got after 1961. Municipalties and village authorities 
are non existent except when it comes to sale of land and that in fraudulent 
means.
BC

=
Lisa Dias-Noronha?
Subject: [Goanet] At Village Level: Chorao Ferry Crossing -?Clean-up-activity

SPACE {Society for Promoting the Arts, Culture and Education} and Grace Parish 
Youth, Chorao spent the afternoon of the Republic Day Holiday??(26/01/2017) 
cleaning/sweeping/ collecting plastic and solid waste from?the Chorao ferry 
point. Again, they swept the entire road area of the?ferry crossing. 
...?with the co-operation of the Forest Department and that, the Panchayat 
has respected their demand by sending the village waste?management team to lift 
the waste. Analee even convinced her father to?join the drive. Way to go!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/147888454@N06/shares/4brWAW



GL responds:
A rare positive article about Goa and Goans on Goanet. ?Way to go Lisa and your 
co-volunteers. ?Goa badly needs volunteers.Volunteer groups exists worldwide 
except in our bangarchem Goem.
Many veteran Goannetters would rather write the usual crabby article and demand 
the Prime Minister of India do something about cleaning the road.

Your article / story shows what can be done by even a few working together 
including breaking down caste barriers which Goanetters are very fond of 
talking about. ?I really like the ripple effects of your action on the 
community and government officials.
Your group is a great role model for the state and should be widely commended. 
?Hope your actions made it on the local TV news.
Best wishes and Good luckRegards, GL

[Goanet] Respect political vounteers

[Sandeep Heble]

Does one have to graduate from being a chaiwallah to a PM to get some kind
of a respect or recognition? Aren’t we a Nation of equals? This is not to
support any political party or individual or formation but just to express
disappointment over the sheer double standards that are visible on display
today. When a Modi or a Gadkari or a Rahul Gandhi come to campaign, they
become Modi-ji or Garkari-ji or a Rahul-ji and it then becomes a privilege
to post selfies with them or of their rallies in Social media. But when
ordinary people come from outstation to campaign, there is a big problem.
Why? Are these people lesser mortals? India is a Land where spiritual
leaders like Swami Vivekananda walked in simple clothing and captured the
imagination of the World. If the hostility to such ordinary people is just
to get into the good books of the high and the mighty and the powerful, it
is indeed sad. Has the Nation become so subservient to money and power that
it is losing its sense of ethics, direction and morality?

warm regards,
Sandeep Heble

[Goanet] Seven jobs that 'so 2017' !!

[Con Menezes]

   
http://time.com/money/4631366/new-jobs-2017/?xid=newsletter-brief

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[Goanet] Chinese man 'trapped' in India for 50 years wants to go home.

[Con Menezes]

  
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-38794208

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[Goanet] People live longer when they babysit their grandkids.

[Con Menezes]

 
http://www.theevolvingplanet.com/people-live-longer-babysit-grandkids/

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Re: [Goanet] OFFTOPIC - A Clarifying Moment

[Santosh Helekar]

Jose colaco1 at gmail.com  wrote on Tue Jan 31 05:38:28 PST 2017
>
>I am sure you read my views on Cohen. I respect his views on the Middle East 
>as much as I respect Tony Blair's. Not very sure Why my normally very astute 
>colleague (Dr. Helekar) referred us to his spiel, that too in the Atlantic.
>

Here is another nice offtopic article from The Atlantic, which is a
very could magazine with great liberal and conservative writers:

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/01/trump-administration-jobs/514805/

Cheers,

Santosh

On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 9:37 AM, Santosh Helekar  wrote:
> Here is more clarity for Goanetters to prepare themselves for the global 
> threat:
>
> http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/01/31/donald-trump-our-america-first-president-is-profoundly-un-american.html
>
> Cheers,
>
> Santosh
>
>
*
No offense meant. But let the chips fall where they may.
*

Re: [Goanet] The Quebec City shooting.

[Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا]

On 30 January 2017 at 21:58, Roland Francis 
wrote:

> As to Bisonnette, there is no shortage of crazies all over.


I do wish we are as generous when a fanatic who happens to be Muslim is the
suspect.

FN

PS: Why don't we call it just what it is -- a terror attack? On the basis
of religion?

[Goanet-News] "Goenkarponn, the Goa song"

[Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या * فريدريك نورونيا]

Free download from here:
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Re: [Goanet] OFFTOPIC - A Clarifying Moment

[Santosh Helekar]

Here is more clarity for Goanetters to prepare themselves for the global threat:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/01/31/donald-trump-our-america-first-president-is-profoundly-un-american.html

Cheers,

Santosh


On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 4:13 PM, Santosh Helekar  wrote:
> MD mmdmello at gmail.com  wrote on Mon Jan 30 08:29:38 PST 2017
>>
>>Jeb's supporters financed the Trump  'golden showers' dossier compiled by 
>>British James Bond'000' Christopher Steele, but Jeb lost interest after he 
>>lost the primary against Trump then Democrats wanted it
>>
>
> Here is another clarifying moment on the global threat:
>
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/27/mystery-death-ex-kgb-chief-linked-mi6-spys-dossier-donald-trump/
>
> Cheers,
>
> Santosh
>

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*
No offense meant. But let the chips fall where they may.
*

Re: [Goanet] Subject: Re: Subject: OFFTOPIC - A Clarifying Moment

[Jose]

> On Jan 31, 2017, at 6:26 AM, MD  wrote:
> 
> I did not refer to W. Post but what Cohen wrote on the Post. (The
> mainstream media: The Washington Post, The New York Times, The Boston
> Globe, The Los Angeles Time, ABC, CBS CNN, NBC, MSNBC, PBS, Yahoo News,
> BBC, The Guardian etc.)

> Fox, NY Post, DM Online, RT seem to be somewhat exceptions. 

Dear MD,
My WAPO comment was 'obiter'. I stopped reading it after I realised who owned 
it and what (negative) relationship he had with the Donald. Very similar to the 
reason I stopped reading the Navhind Times in Goa many moons ago.

I am sure you read my views on Cohen. I respect his views on the Middle East as 
much as I respect Tony Blair's. Not very sure Why my normally very astute 
colleague (Dr. Helekar) referred us to his spiel, that too in the Atlantic.

BTW: I personally do not consider the Post, DM and RT any less biased than the 
MSM.

jc

[Goanet] CPI-M Goa Election Appeal

[Thalmann Pereira]

*CPI-M Goa Election Appeal*


The Goa State Organizing Committee of the Communist Party of India
(Marxist) has issued the following Appeal to the Electorate in Goa :

Elections to the State Assembly of Goa will be held on Saturday 4th
February 2017.

In Goa, the BJP-MGP coalition government which took office in March 2012,
has been indulging in communal and casteist politics. The Dalit and the
Tribal people of Goa,  as also the OBC's have been at the receiving end of
this caste - communal ruling dispensation.

Consistent attempts, both overt and covert, were being consistently made by
these caste - communal forces by trying to misuse the language of school
instruction issue.

All this was systematically done to cover up their corruption and outright
loot of the public exchequer.

However, just weeks before the election, the Maharashtrawadi Gomantak Party
(MGP) has walked out of the coalition.  There is an alternative right
coalition consisting of the MGP, Shiv Sena and Goa Suraksha Manch led by a
former RSS chief.

Moreover, after the two and a half years of the Modi government at the
centre and the palpable failure to deliver jobs and development, the shine
of the BJP is considerably reduced.

Under such circumstances,  *the key electoral task* is to ensure the total
defeat of the caste - communal ruling dispensation which has played further
havoc with the lives of the ordinary citizens of Goa by resorting to
corruption and nepotism.

A one to one contest in each of the 40 constituencies against the BJP and
also against the alternative caste-communal alliance, was very much the
need of the hour.

The CPI(M) and the Left parties are not a major force in Goa.

Keeping in tune with this ground reality, that even 300 odd votes could
make a difference between victory or defeat for the central electoral task,
the CPI-M decided not to field any candidates in these elections.

The CPI-M has consistently worked for the working unity of all the anti -
BJP forces at the ground level.

Unfortunately, the AAP and the Congress parties have both refused to see
plain and simple reason,  both being blinded by their illogical conclusions
of coming to power by themselves,  when the fact of the reality is that
neither of them could even find the 40 candidates (by their own "lofty"
standards) to field in each of the 40 candidates.

This arrogance of going it alone, when being unable to find even 40
candidates,  exposes the hollow Go-it-Alone claims of both the AAP and the
Congress parties.

The CPI-M is conscious of the fact that two candidates of the CPI and many
other honest and progressive candidates (individually or party - based) are
in the fray, in the various constituencies.

*However,  this particular election is not the place for minor skirmishes
on the sidelines.*

*The only criteria that can be implemented is, therefore, to proceed
constituency-wise to locate the strongest anti-BJP and anti-MGP candidate
in each of the 40 constituencies.*

Though such a course of practical action is not likely to result in
throwing up the name of a candidate acceptable to all the progressive and
secular forces,  nevertheless, given the shortcomings of the actual
situation, such a course of action is the only possible one to prevent the
split of the secular - progressive vote, and to ensure the overall defeat
of the caste - communal forces.

Keeping this in mind, the CPI-M calls upon the progressive, democratic and
secular people of Goa to *vote and elect the "strongest secular candidate"
in each of the 40 constituencies.*

Over the next two days, the CPI-M will identify the "strongest secular
candidate" in each of the 40 constituencies and call upon the people to
vote for them.

All other battles against corruption and the anti-people policies will be
continued consistently over the next five years, so as to serve the true
interests of the people.

The CPI-M underlines the need to conduct a sustained campaign to expose the
reactionary communal character of the BJP and the onslaughts unleashed on
the people by the Modi government.

The flagrant abuse of official power by the ruling BJP-led dispensation and
their shameless corruption and nepotism as also the harassment of the
common citizens, all need to be decisively defeated in the coming
elections.

All the resources are to be marshaled to defeat the BJP in the forthcoming
elections.

(Released to the media on 31st January 2017).

- (Thälmann Pradeep Pereira)
Secretary
CPI-M (Goa State Organizing Committee).

[Goanet] come elctions, minorities are important

[Nelson Lopes]

Come elections.minorities are important

Minorities are only vote bank material. They are wanted, highlighted,  much
sort after once on 5 years. They are ridiculed, chided as non patriotic and
blatantly  asked to move to country of religious origin, Minorities are
less selfish and need no certificates from politicians on fundamentals of
patriotism .They have excelled in defense forces over the ages and left
indelible imprints of supreme sacrifices and served the Nation ,conscious
of their duties. The educational Institutes, Charitable outlets,and Medical
care and nursing facilities peak out loud and clear, The service to
downtrodden of all ages and sex need no comments and elaboration. Many
politicians were educated in our prestigious Institutes and constantly seek
admissions, sending recommendations for favours. It is a pity that some
short sighted religious persons are seen hobnobbing  closely with
politicians for personal gains and which act is not  considered favourably
 by laity, . After elections our authorities are seen in close proximity
with the powers that be, irrespective of their character and credibility,
Now all sins are forgiven and friendship is the buzz word for the good of
the community It is a double standard of sorts

One incident that has left permanent blemish on minority values is the raid
on Velim .Church It was a sort of public insinuation and defamatory nature
that the religious places are safe store houses for distributions to
influence the voters. 5 years down the lane, it is not clear as to who
ordered these despicable raids after sun down. It is another matter that
nothing was found, even though slanted news was floated about shifting the
booty in anticipation. The church authorities have not vehemently protested
this most uncharitable act, though Velim Citizens fortunately did not take
it lying own in protecting their honour and those of their religious
leaders. For this valiant act many have suffered and continue to suffer the
consequences being embroiled in court cases  The voters must awake to show
such conspirators the door, even though they appear to be harmless wolves
in sheep`s clothing

Our Educational Institutes in Goa are under constant threats and
interference unnecessarily needling their smooth function guaranteed by
Constitution The Income tax short notice to all church organization to
disclose the accounts with details of denomination of notes was selective
 and discriminatory. The church complied quickly without standing in
defense to the shock and surprise of tax authorities within the shortest
period without arguing about its privileges and rights., None of the
political members of our community uttered a word in protest but upheld the
 absolute right of tax authorities. It is time now to show firmly and
decisively our disgust and apprehensions about selective harassment and
insinuations  meted out to the minority community

Nelson Lopes chinchinim

[Goanet] (no subject)

[Jules Fausto Mendonca de Sa]

Immigration – a Taboo word

Two major world events from 2016; namely Brexit on June 23rd and the US 
Presidential Election on 8th November were both won using Immigration as a fear 
factor. The irony of the events was the fact that Nigel Farage of the UK and 
Donald Trump were both descendants of refugees or immigrants. Nigel Farage is 
said to be descended from French Huguenots whereas Trump has German (paternal) 
and Scottish ancestry (through his mother who worked as a domestic in the US). 
Keeping aside the abhorrence many feel against Trump it is indeed a great 
achievement that the son of a former domestic and immigrant is now holding ‘the 
most important position in the world’.

These individuals very cleverly appealed to the silent communities who blamed 
new comers for their own complacency or inadequacies. These silent communities 
conveniently forgot that they were also descended from Immigrants who chose to 
move away from their natural habitats. Immigration and its pros and cons would 
require to be written in book form as there is much to discuss. My thoughts are 
about the selfishness and anger expressed by our own small Goan community and 
worse of all by these Immigrants themselves.

Goa as we known had been a jewel in the Portuguese crown and had been an 
important outpost for trade but sadly after the collapse of the Portuguese 
empire in the 1600s - had ceased to become a lucrative area for trade. Also by 
that time other trade routes had been established. Times must have been 
difficult for the locals who had lost the privileges enjoyed during the Golden 
Era – hence the only alternative to make a better life was through Immigration.

In the absence of records it is hard to research when the initial migrants 
moved out of Goa to make a life in the Subcontinent of India and beyond. So we 
keep a bench mark of the 1700s when we have official records which indicate 
that Goans Christians moved to more established cities like Bombay, Calcutta, 
Lucknow, Cawnpore (Kanpur) etc. With the establishment of the East India 
Company – some of the Goan Christians were best placed to take on the more 
menial roles for the British as they were not bound by the taboos of handling 
beef and pork which was prevalent by the major faiths of India – Hinduism and 
Islam. This they did diligently and owing to their honesty and loyalty were 
greatly appreciated by the employers. The ones from more privileged backgrounds 
were encouraged to take up higher education and these bore fruits in their rise 
through the ranks to positions just under the British. The railways and their 
posts were also other areas where the Goans services were utilised.

A branch of my own ancestors are known to have been in British India in the 
early 1800s and that is where they are said to have made their wealth. They 
returned to Goa and built a home in Siolim.  A daughter then married an 
individual who was a part of another enterprising group known to have landed in 
the small fishing village known as Kurrachee (Karachi – now one of the largest 
cities in South Asia). These enterprising men started trading whilst a few 
others sought employment with the stationed British. Along this time – there 
were also workers from Goa who were employed to cook, wait and clean for the 
British. Interestingly, many of these people including single men with good 
jobs were known to live in ‘Chummeries’ or ‘Coors’ – which were shared 
accommodation. These individuals after having been well established would 
return to Goa – get married and return with their newly-wed wife to which ever 
city they were established and take on separate premises. This pattern has 
continued over the years during the wave of immigration to British and 
Portuguese Africas in the late 1800s and early 1900s, the Gulf States in the 
1960s and to the present day with many stationed in places like Swindon and 
Wembley in the UK. This way of life which was deemed acceptable years ago is 
now being vilified by many of our fellow Goans possibly jealous that their 
fellow villager or somebody not belonging to their social status was taking 
this step to improve their status back in Goa.

Some of these Goans who live in humble accommodation in the UK have gone back 
to their villages and have invested by building large villas. They have hopes 
someday to return home to their beloved Goa. I feel very proud of these people 
who despite the odds are making efforts to better their stock and their lives.

Many people are unaware that immigration of Goans to the UK has been going on 
for centuries and not decades. The first known settlers are known to have come 
aboard ships working as ship hands sometime in the late 1700s. Many of these 
ship workers remained and lived in some of the more deprived areas of 
Liverpool, and London. These in turn integrated with the local communities and 
their descendants still bear the surnames de Souza, Fernandes etc. One might 
argue that these 

[Goanet] Press Note

[Ulhas Parab]

Respected Sirs,

Kindly publish news & photographs attached along with the press noted.

Dr. Ulhas Parab
Gen. Secretary, GPCC

[Goanet] PRESS RELEASE: Government of India considers Goenchi Mati Proposal

[Roxanne Coutinho]

*FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE *

Date of release: 31-Jan-2017



*Goenchi Mati Movement pleased with Government of India consideration of
its proposal*



*GOA (31-Jan-2017)*: The Goenchi Mati Movement is pleased with the
Government of India’s serious consideration of the ideas in its proposal
based on Public Trust Doctrine and the principle of Intergenerational
Equity.

The Economic Survey of India (2016-17) released by the Finance Minister in
Parliament today recognises the implications of the Supreme Court judgement
in the Goa Mining case: that natural resources are a shared inheritance
that need to be preserved for future generations, and that in the case of
sub-soil minerals, the states are trustees on behalf of the people.

The report explores the value of saving money from minerals in a
non-wasting asset such as a permanent fund, and redistributing any real
income to citizens. It emphasizes the importance of considering creative
responses to avoid the risks and costs associated with the “natural
resource curse.”

The report acknowledges the inputs of Rahul Basu from the Goenchi Mati
Movement. The following quotes are taken from Chapter 13 of the report (The
‘Other Indias’: Two Analytical Narratives (Redistributive and Natural
Resources) on States’ Development).

"*13.46 One way to increase citizens’ participation is via creation of a
dedicated Fund to which all mining revenue must accrue. The assumption here
is that minerals are part of the commons, owned by the state as trustee for
the people – including future generations. Therefore, the revenue from the
natural resources should be saved in a non-wasting asset- in a Permanent
Fund. The real income accrued by the Fund can be redistributed to citizens
affected by and having a stake in the extraction of the resource. (Box 1)"*



*"13.49 These measures have never been tried in India. But permanent funds
have been utilised effectively in many other countries, while pilot
projects for UBI are beginning. Introducing these mechanisms in India could
be contemplated, if only because their risks seem small compared with the
costs that would accrue if the "natural resource curse" materialised on
Indian soil, as it has in so many other countries around the world. *



*"13.50 In sum, large bounties-either in the form of redistributed
resources or natural resources- can create surprising pathologies, even in
democratic India. Recognizing and responding to them creatively will be
important to avoid making the errors of history.*



*"Box 1: Supreme Court of India Judgement on Goa Mining*



*The judgment of the Supreme Court of India in WP 435/2012 (Goa Foundation
vs UoI & Ors, the Goa mining case), was the culmination of a series of
landmark judgements on the subject of managing natural resources in public
domain. In this case, the apex court ordered a cap on mining as well as the
creation of a Goan Iron Ore Permanent Fund to meet the ends of
inter-generational equity and sustainable development. When considered
along with earlier SC judgments on the public trust doctrine, notably CA
4154/2000 (Fomento Resorts & Anr vs Minguel Martins & Ors), and on the
disposal of natural resources, notably WP 423/2010 (CPIL & Ors vs UoI &
Ors, the 2G spectrum case), a new picture emerges for minerals.*



*What implications does the SC judgment carry for natural resource
management?*



*Natural resources, including minerals, are a shared inheritance that needs
to be preserved for future generations. As sub-soil minerals are largely
owned by the States, and offshore minerals by the Centre, the states are
the trustees on behalf of the people. The cap on mining in Goa is to ensure
the availability of minerals over several generations as well as to limit
the environmental damage from permitted extraction.*



*The proposal for exploring the creation of a Goan Iron Ore Permanent Fund
is notable for being the first that has potential to be established by
judicial action. Norway and over 50 other countries / sub-nations have
created Permanent Funds based on extracting economic rent from oil or other
natural resources. The oldest of these funds, in Texas, dates back to 1876.*
"



Rahul Basu of GMM said: “We are happy that the Government of India is also
considering implementing the core principles of the Goenchi Mati Movement.
We hope the people and the politicians of Goa also keep the use of our
natural resources and land at the core of their voting choices for the
assembly elections. We cannot afford a third failed government, a third
breach of the people’s trust.”



Claude Alvares of the Goa Foundation said that “the mention of the
Permanent Fund proposals in the Economic Survey now indicates that though
Goa was the first state to get such a Fund – because of the judgement in
the Goa Foundation mining case – the idea of such a Fund is now being
considered for all other states as well. This is a great contribution from
Goa to the people of this country.”



The Goenchi Mati Movement 

[Goanet] Subject: Re: OFFTOPIC - A Clarifying Moment

[MD]

Mr. Helekar,

I appreciate the link.

The Telegraph link says: 'Oleg Erovinkin was an Ex KGB chief *suspected* of
of helping the former MI6 spy Christopher Steele to compile his dossier on
Donald Trump *may have been* murdered by the Kremlin and his death covered
up. Oleg Erovinkin, a former general in the KGB and its successor the FSB,
was found dead in the back of his car in Moscow on Boxing Day in mysterious
circumstances.'

It is said Oleg Erovinkin was found dead on DECEMBER 26, 2016 in the back
seat of his Lexus sedan car, apparently had a driver?

The dossier was handed over to the FBI in AUGUST 2016 who sat on it and
instead continued investigating Clinton. The former intelligence official
grew concerned that there was a cover-up in progress. On a trip to New York
in October, he was persuaded to tell his story to David Corn, the
Washington editor of Mother Jones, who first reported the existence of the
material on 31 OCTOBER 2016. Later, the information was also passed from
the former MI6 agent to John McCain through an intermediary. McCain then
handed the document over to FBI Director James Comey. Obama and Biden were
briefed on this but then President elect Donald Trump denied he was briefed
but said the contents of the dossier were not true. (Donald Trump calls the
unverified documents ‘fake news’ leaked by ‘sick people’ during his first
press conference as President-elect)
Check the link below, makes a good reading:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/11/trump-russia-report-opposition-research-john-mccain
The British Intelligence is hiding Steele, so how difficult is it for them
to ask Steele to name his 'source' and end the speculation or is this the
way the media operates?
Regards
MD

Message: 5
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 16:13:23 -0600
From: Santosh Helekar 
To: goanet 
Subject: Re: [Goanet] OFFTOPIC - A Clarifying Moment
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MD mmdmello at gmail.com  wrote on Mon Jan 30 08:29:38 PST 2017

Jeb's supporters financed the Trump  'golden showers' dossier compiled by
British James Bond'000' Christopher Steele, but Jeb lost interest after he
lost the primary against Trump then Democrats wanted it

Here is another clarifying moment on the global threat:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/27/mystery-death-
ex-kgb-chief-linked-mi6-spys-dossier-donald-trump/

Cheers,

Santosh


On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 11:05 PM, Santosh Helekar 
wrote:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/01/a-
clarifying-moment-in-american-history/514868/

Cheers,

Santosh

[Goanet] Subject: Re: Subject: OFFTOPIC - A Clarifying Moment

[MD]

Dear jc,

I did not refer to W. Post but what Cohen wrote on the Post. (The
mainstream media: The Washington Post, The New York Times, The Boston
Globe, The Los Angeles Time, ABC, CBS CNN, NBC, MSNBC, PBS, Yahoo News,
BBC, The Guardian etc.) Fox, NY Post, DM Online, RT seem to be somewhat
exceptions. Surprisingly, these days WAPO is missing in news.google.com!

In the run-up to the 2003 Invasion of Iraq, Cohen was a member of Committee
for the Liberation of Iraq, a group of prominent persons who pressed for an
invasion. Cohen may also have advocated regime change in Iran. On 2 March
2007, Cohen was appointed by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice to serve
as Counselor of the State Department under George W. Bush administration
and served from 2007-2009.

Cohen was a leading voice of opposition to Trump among former GOP national
security officials during the campaign. During his campaign, Donald Trump
outlined numerous foreign policies that depart dramatically from those of
President Obama — and long-standing U.S. positions in some cases. Mainly:
"The United States is going to abandon its decades of policies promoting
regime change in countries around the world," Trump told a rally in
Fayetteville in the US state of North Carolina. “We will stop racing to
topple foreign regimes that we know nothing about that we shouldn’t be
involved with. This destructive cycle of intervention and chaos must
finally come to an end.” The president-elect Trump gave 'a commitment to
engage the use of military forces only when it is in the…interests of the
United States.' "We want to strengthen old friendships and seek out new
friendships… … We seek harmony and goodwill among the nations of the
world,” he said. He has been working diligently on his campaign promises.
Hoping for the best and peace in the world.

Last December, the United States and nearly 200 other countries adopted the
world’s first pact to limit emissions of gases that nearly all scientists
say are warming the planet. Trump — who has called climate change a "hoax"
— has vowed to renegotiate the deal. Need to study more on this Climate
Change and Global Warming.

Regards
MD


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Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 14:16:11 -0500
From: Jose 
To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!"

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On Jan 30, 2017, at 11:29 AM, MD  wrote:

Eliot Cohen served both the father and son Bush presidents and must be
angry Trump bumped out 'low energy' Jeb. On May 3, 2016 Cohen wrote on
Washington post:

Dear MDI will not comment on the Washington Post, a newspaper I
previously enjoyed reading.

Eliot Cohen is an accomplished Professor in the US, and reportedly, an
expert on the Middle East. I remember him best as a strong proponent of the
Toppling and Replacement of Saddam. We all know how that went. Sadly, I
believe that the West is quite unaware of the intricacies of the Middle
East.

Personally, I am hopeful that the Donald will NOT get into unprovoked wars
with other nations.

jc

[Goanet] Fifth Sunday of the Year

[Jude Botelho]

31-Jan-2017
Dear Friend,
Often when talking of believers, we talk of a ‘practicing catholic’ as one who 
attends Sunday mass, as though practicing the faith meant only regular 
attendance in church! Perhaps for some believers their faith begins and ends 
with performing their Sunday obligation. But true faith is seen not merely in 
the observance of ritual practices and obligations but in witnessing to our 
faith in fulfilling our social obligations towards others. May His word prod us 
to action. Have a ‘concern-filled’ weekend! –Fr. Jude
Sun Ref. Fifth Sunday: ‘You are light of the world! Are you enlightening?’ 
5-Feb-2017Isaiah 58: 07-10;          1 Cor. 2: 1-5;          Matt. 5: 1-12;

In the first reading from Isaiah, the prophet speaks plainly about what is 
expected of the true believer. In earlier Jewish history, fasting and fast days 
were part of the liturgy, in which rich and poor ‘humbled’ themselves before 
God. The rich fasted and expected a divine reply in the form of greater 
prosperity. They asked why God did not answer their prayer. In today’s reading 
the prophet tells them that for fasting to be acceptable to God it must be 
meaningful. Genuine fast before God requires the social awareness and concern 
spelled out by the prophet. “Share your bread with the hungry, and shelter the 
homeless poor, clothe the man you see naked….then your light will shine like 
the dawn.” It is by such actions that genuine worship gives glory to God.
Be not simply good…Alexander Solzhenitsyn recalls, as he says, ‘with shame’, an 
incident he witnessed when he was captain in the Russian army. “One day I saw a 
sergeant of the secret police on horseback, using a whip on a Russian soldier 
who had been captured serving in a German unit. The man, naked from the waist 
up, was staggering under the blows, his body covered in blood. Suddenly he saw 
me and cried out: “Mister Captain, save me!” “Any officer in any army in the 
world should have put a stop to this torture, but I was a coward. I said 
nothing, I did nothing. This picture has remained in my mind ever since.” He 
could have brought light into a dark situation but he didn’t. “Be not simply 
good”, says Thoreau, “be good for something.”Flor McCarthy in ‘New Sunday and 
Holy Day Liturgies’
Today’s gospel speaks of the practical implications of being followers of Jesus 
Christ. Jesus uses simple images which would be easily understood by his 
Palestinian followers. “You are the salt of the earth… You are the light of the 
world.” His listeners knew how essential salt was in those days. In fact people 
traded in salt as they traded in silver and gold. Salt was essential to flavour 
and preserve food. Its absence in food was immediately noticeable. Light too 
played an essential function of enlightening, guiding, and making ordinary 
tasks possible. What Jesus is saying through these images is that his disciples 
have an essential function to play in the world. When Jesus spoke of letting 
our light shine among men he was not speaking of parading our good works, or of 
attracting attention to ourselves. Our good deeds should inspire others to do 
what needs to be done in their own lives. Our deeds do not have to be 
spectacular because even little deeds done regularly can make a difference in 
peoples’ lives. As Christians we have a very positive role to play in the 
world. Shedding light and witnessing to the light not only makes people see 
things clearly but it also puts our own life under the spot light; we can be 
vulnerable and exposed. Just as salt is worthless if it loses its saltiness and 
light is useless if it is kept under covers, so the Christian life is 
meaningless unless faith is witnessed in love and concern for others. Religion 
is no private affair between me and my God. Our lives have to impact others and 
lead them to God.
“Mr. Lincoln has left his lights on”A mother and her small child once drove 
past the restored home of Abraham Lincoln in Springfield. It was night and the 
national shrine of the United States was brightly lit. “Look mama,” the child 
said excitedly, “Mr. Lincoln has left his lights on.” The mother smiled. “Yes” 
she replied; “he left them on for the whole world to see.” Although Lincoln has 
been dead since 1865, he is still a tremendous inspiration to all people. But 
in a much more true sense Christ, ‘God from God, Light from Light’ remains and 
will remain to the end the shining beacon for all peoples of all times. Christ 
has shared his light with us his disciples and asks us to be what we are: “the 
light of the world.”Vima Dasan
As Dear as SaltAn aged king who had three sons decided to choose his successor. 
To test his heirs he inquired how much they loved him. “More than the world’s 
wealth!” exclaimed the first. The second declared. “Greater than all the wisdom 
the world holds!” The youngest said, “As dear as salt.” Infuriated, the king 
exiled him and bequeathed the kingdom to his eldest son. Later, 

[Goanet] At Village Level: Chorao Ferry Crossing - Clean-up-activity

[Bernado Colaco]

It is a shame that young Goans spend only one day to clean their towns and 
villages. This is what we got after 1961. Municipalties and village authorities 
are non existent except when it comes to sale of land and that in fraudulent 
means.
BC


Lisa Dias-Noronha?
Subject: [Goanet] At Village Level: Chorao Ferry Crossing -?Clean-up-activity


SPACE {Society for Promoting the Arts, Culture and Education} and Grace Parish 
Youth, Chorao spent the afternoon of the Republic Day Holiday??(26/01/2017) 
cleaning/sweeping/ collecting plastic and solid waste from?the Chorao ferry 
point. Again, they swept the entire road area of the?ferry crossing. 
...?with the co-operation of the Forest Department and that, the Panchayat 
has respected their demand by sending the village waste?management team to lift 
the waste. Analee even convinced her father to?join the drive. Way to go!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/147888454@N06/shares/4brWAW



GL responds:
A rare positive article about Goa and Goans on Goanet. ?Way to go Lisa and your 
co-volunteers. ?Goa badly needs volunteers.Volunteer groups exists worldwide 
except in our bangarchem Goem.
Many veteran Goannetters would rather write the usual crabby article and demand 
the Prime Minister of India do something about cleaning the road.

Your article / story shows what can be done by even a few working together 
including breaking down caste barriers which Goanetters are very fond of 
talking about. ?I really like the ripple effects of your action on the 
community and government officials.
Your group is a great role model for the state and should be widely commended. 
?Hope your actions made it on the local TV news.
Best wishes and Good luckRegards, GL

[Goanet] OFFTOPIC: Fr Fred Sopena, SJ, passes away at 91

[Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या * فريدريك نورونيا]

http://www.ucanindia.in/news/spaniard-jesuit-who-loved-india-dies-at-91/33963/daily

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[Goanet] ] sweetener: Increasing brain tumor rates: is there a link to aspartame?

[Bernado Colaco]

Cientista fugiu com os passaros. The scientist flew away with the birds!
BC

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8939194


There were doubts about Aspartame for the last decade or so, ever since it was 
suspiciously allowed to be used by the FDA.

We have a scientist on this Forum who would vociferously defend the innocence 
of Aspartame. Wonder if could comment on these research findings.



Ferdinando dos Reis Falc?o.

[Goanet] Sanskrit influence on names worldwide (specially in South Asia)

[Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या * فريدريك نورونيا]

A friend once told me that the villages of Loutolim (Lott'li) and Cortalim
(Kut'thal) were named after the twin sons of Lord Ram -- Lav and Kush.

Is there any truth in this, or does it just reflect the tendency of
Sanskrit promoters and votaries to see almost every name they encounter (or
a slanted version of it) as in some way connected with some Sanskrit name?

While surfing the Net today, I came across a claim that almost every other
country in the South Asian region (and beyond) had names infuenced by
Sanskrit:
http://gk.queryhome.com/8338/countries-names-origin-from-sanskrit-word

What do you think? FN
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