[Goanet] The goonda minister should resign immediately or else..

2008-10-14 Thread JoeGoaUk
The goonda minister should resign immediately or else..

The brutal attack in Panjim
The minister who is the main suspect or of whom  evry body talked about should 
step down immediately (on moral grounds or pending invetigation).
If not Digu Kaka should sack him.  If that does not happen the the Governor 
should sack the present govt.(calling fresh elections) or if nothing happerns 
then the people (the people power) should sack the Minister or the Govt.

What's the point of saving Goa if we allow these sort of things in Goa?

Shame on us.
Because we are the people who elect such goondas.

Knives and swords are used in the attacks.
Folks, you are not waching bollywood movie.
This is actually happening in Goa.
And it happend last night
Where Aires Rod  Prajal etc were bruttaly attacked.

It's time to do something,
It's time to do something NOW.

Wishing a speedy recovery to all those injured in the last night's attack.

I support Aires Rodrigues
I support Prajal Sakardhande
I support all those who support Goa.

What about you??


VIDEO: Prajal Sakhardande at Campal Clinic after being attacked
http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=-PX7ykbM_LU


--- On Mon, 13/10/08, Pravin Sabnis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: Pravin Sabnis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [GOAN-NRI] we shall overcome
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, 13 October, 2008, 7:36 PM

WE SHALL OVERCOME
solidarity meeting 
on 15th October 2008
at 4.00pm
T B Cunha Hall, Panaji, Goa
 
Let's chart the strategy to challenge the violent undemocratic forces
who seek to crush all peaceful protests.










Re: [Goanet] The goonda minister should resign immediately or else..

2008-10-14 Thread Gabe Menezes
2008/10/14 JoeGoaUk [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 The goonda minister should resign immediately or else..

 The brutal attack in Panjim
 The minister who is the main suspect or of whom  evry body talked about 
 should step down immediately (on moral grounds or pending invetigation).


RESPONSE: With all due respect Joe, Aires has had problems galore,
firstly as pointed out by my very good friend Marlon Menezes [ Cousin
removed 45 times? -:)) ] it was the issue with the alleged paedophile
Priest, then the very pronounced Rane Junior issue, then the issue
with Mckeown, lastly but not least the issue with Monserrate.

Now the crux is, whether the Goa Police can show themselves capable of
solving this case.I think not, for obvious reasons. Goa Police
have a God given chance to prove themselves above Board - this is the
time to take the bull by the horns and prove themselves

Prove me and the rest of Goa wrong, please, please I beg you!

Joe, please don't assume  that Monseratte is the guilty party, could
be someone trying to frame him and his family?

Every angle has to be ascertained before conclusions are drawn.

Also let us hope that the issue of the Rape and lewd texts re the 14
year German Girl, are followed to the hilt and justice is served - we
shall wait with bathed breath!

Babush and Jenifer should fry their son first, as per our Catholic
Goan customs, string him by the balls...literally, ultimately the
fault is of the parents - lavishing all the goodies that money can
buy.
-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM.

Gabe Menezes.
London.


[Goanet] The goonda minister should resign immediately or else..

2008-10-14 Thread edward desilva
Hi All,
One must remember that minsters or MLAs, once elected think that they are above 
the law (no matter which party they belong to). 
They NEVER seem to understand that they are elected to SERVE, not command. 
These ministers or MLAs think that the Police are THEIR servants, which is not 
true.
This fundamental principle has to be implemented first.
If not, this sort of behaviour will happen all the time no mater which party is 
in power.
 
Just before the Goa election, one minister had a party at his house whereby 
drugs were freely available AND the police were informed BY THE MINISTER, the 
police commissioner put guards in front of his noisy house, so that he is not 
disturbed by others, while he was allowed to disturb his neighbours and others. 
By the way he was a Goa Congress MLA.
 
To stop this abuse of service towards the public happening there should be a 
committee to investigate the ministers and other civil servants, just like they 
have one in UK, Keith Vaz is under investigation at the moment.
 
No one is above the law, but in INDIA the Ministries and the MLAs think they 
are.
Public servants ie MLAs and Ministers are Law makers not law enforces. They are 
just public servants (to serve the public and thus do good to the public).
 
Who and How can one put this into their heads? is the question.
These MLA's and Minister's fundamental belief that they have power to do 
anything and get away with it, has to be erased from their brains.
 
Again, only Police are Law enforcers not the MLAs or Ministers.
ED.
PS. to quote Joegoauk: Because we are the people who elect such goondas.
REPLY:-
Next time make sure that you elect an EDUCATED goonda, who has some, humility.
ED.

---
Joegoauk said:
The brutal attack in PanjimThe minister who is the main suspect or of whom evry 
body talked about should step down immediately (on moral grounds or pending 
invetigation).
If not Digu Kaka should sack him. If that does not happen the the Governor 
should sack the present govt.(calling fresh elections) or if nothing happerns 
then the people (the people power) should sack the Minister or the Govt.What's 
the point of saving Goa if we allow these sort of things in Goa?Shame on us.






Re: [Goanet] The goonda minister should resign immediately or else..

2008-10-14 Thread Venantius Pinto
Gabe, every passionate Goan should hear your words about Catholic Goan
customs. We as a people have lost passion. We have become so emasculated
that perhaps only a few of us know that we have balls. If the parents,
Babush and Jennifer, know it is really their son, then instead of saving him
blindly — at the very least they should tie him to a coconut tree, pour sur
(toddy) over him, and invite Goans to watch. Many people will be horrified
to read this, but they will survive this reading. Do this for a week at 2
hours intervals. Of course they should have a doctor in attendance. Then
Babush and Jennifer should apologize and let justice take its course. This
is the kind of patriarchal justice, that people have forgotten and is
sometimes needed, because the sins are that of his elders too.

As a kid, this is what I saw at B.P.T. Quarters in Wadala. In front of my
building #29. A young man had allegedly raped a woman. His father — a
Muslim, had him paraded through our colony — I cannot remember whether he
was partially or completely naked, but he was chained, manacled and in a
hobble (I think in Koknni it is known as a bedi).  Before that he was
chained to the small pipal tree near our building. All the elders were in
attendance, Muslim and Hindu, and the police. I think it was a deal struck
with the police and the community — perhaps the Sena. Trust me it was sombre
and medieval. The Hindus were quiet, but the father a Muslim, apologized to
everyone who was around as well as went up to people to do so.

Venantius J Pinto


From: Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Goanet] The goonda minister should resign immediately or
   else..

Babush and Jenifer should fry their son first, as per our Catholic
Goan customs, string him by the balls...literally, ultimately the
fault is of the parents - lavishing all the goodies that money can
buy.
--
DEV BOREM KORUM.

Gabe Menezes.
London.


[Goanet] Goanet] The goonda minister should resign immediately or else..

2008-10-14 Thread JoeGoaUk
Thank you Gabe,

And what if he is a real culprit  behind the brutal attack?
And so long as he stays a minister, don't you think he will meddle with the 
investigation with his influence  powers as a minister?

Hence, I also said,  he should step down pending investigation

As for Aires, yes, I remember that infamous Ribandar alleged Priest paedophile 
Case. There were complaints and counter complaints.
People think fighting with priest is like fighting with God, so he was left 
almost all by himself (with no support).
Very elderly tiatrist has recently put thus:
'When priest touches girls/women, they take it as if they have been touched by 
the God'.


Yes, for Goa Police, particularly the Panjim Police, this is the time/chance to 
sort things out, but again, as said, minister may use his office..

thanks
==
Goanet] The goonda minister should resign immediately or else..
Gabe Menezes gabe.menezes at gmail.com 
Tue Oct 14 07:45:16 PDT 2008 


2008/10/14 JoeGoaUk joegoauk at yahoo.co.uk:
 The goonda minister should resign immediately or else..

 The brutal attack in Panjim
 The minister who is the main suspect or of whom  evry body talked about 
 should step down immediately (on moral grounds or pending invetigation).


RESPONSE: With all due respect Joe, Aires has had problems galore,
firstly as pointed out by my very good friend Marlon Menezes [ Cousin
removed 45 times? -:)) ] it was the issue with the alleged paedophile
Priest, then the very pronounced Rane Junior issue, then the issue
with Mckeown, lastly but not least the issue with Monserrate.

Now the crux is, whether the Goa Police can show themselves capable of
solving this case.I think not, for obvious reasons. Goa Police
have a God given chance to prove themselves above Board - this is the
time to take the bull by the horns and prove themselves

Prove me and the rest of Goa wrong, please, please I beg you!

Joe, please don't assume  that Monseratte is the guilty party, could
be someone trying to frame him and his family?

Every angle has to be ascertained before conclusions are drawn.







Re: [Goanet] The goonda minister should resign immediately or else..

2008-10-14 Thread Jose Agnelo do Rosario Pinto
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Venantius Pinto
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If the parents,
 Babush and Jennifer, know it is really their son, then instead of saving him
 blindly — at the very least they should tie him to a coconut tree, pour sur
 (toddy) over him, and invite Goans to watch.

Venatius,
You must be dreaming that Monserates will do what you say. This is a
crap family that Taleigao people (goondas, robbers, mafias, people
with no moral values, etc) keep on electing. And any Govt whether
Congress or BJP keeps giving him the cabinet post.
Everyone is scared of Monserates including the CM as well as the goan
journalists. When the news of his son's involvement first surfaced in
the press, Navhind times as well as Heraldo did not provide minister's
name or even his title. It took an Indian mewspaper to identify the
minister. What is the use of having journalists when they have no guts
to expose the mighty.

Regards,
jp