[GreenYouth] Fwd: Venkatesh speech

2008-10-10 Thread Venugopalan K M

A worth listening speech by economist Venkatesh..

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4343898391323537541hl=en

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[GreenYouth] (fwded message) CONVENTION AGAINST COMMUNALISM AND ASSAUL ON DEMOCRACY- at 3-30 pm Oct18, Mavlankar Auditoium,Rafi Marg, New Delhi- 110001

2008-10-10 Thread Venugopalan K M

CONVENTION AGAINST COMMUNALISM
  AND
ASSAULT ON DEMOCRACY
OCTOBER 18, 2008
3.30 PM TO 7PM
MAVLANKAR AUDITORIUM
RAFI MARG, NEW DELHI-110001

It is clear today that our secular and democratic republic faces a
challenge regarding its very character. The Bajrang Dal and the VHP,
with the open support of the BJP -- and in the states it is ruling
with the help of the state machinery -- have mounted a savage attack
on the Christians and Muslims. Tens of thousands are in refugee camps
in Orissa and Assam. Churches are being attacked in Karnataka.
Communal violence, clashes and hatred between communities are now a
preparation for the elections.

The secular forces and the civil society need to intervene if we are
to resist these attacks. Towards building a broad initiative on this
issue, we are calling for a convention.
Convention against Communalism and Assault On Democracy
   on
Date and Time: October 18, 2008, 3.30 PM To 7PM,
Venue: Mavlankar Auditorium, Rafi Marg, Delhi

   Speakers

Shri Prakash Karat, General Secretary, CPI(M)
Shri A.B. Bardhan, General Secretary, CPI
Shri Tahir Mehmood, Former Chairman, Minority Commission
Archbishop Vincent Concecao
Shri Mushirul Hasan, Vice Chancellor Jamia Millia Islamia University
Shri H.D. Deve Gowda, President Janata Dal(S)
Shri Yerran Naidu, Telegu Desam
Shri Kuldip Nayyar, Eminent Journalist
Shri S.P. Shukla, Former Secretary, Ministry of Finance
And others.

Shrimati Mayavati, Leader of the BSP and Chief Minister of UP is also
being requested to speak and we are awaiting her confirmation.

 Organisers

Seema Mustafa, Anu Chenoy, Kamal Chenoy, SP Shukla, Zafrul Islam Khan,
Shahid Siddiqui, John Dayal, Zafar Agha, P.M.S. Grewal, Amarjit Kaur,
Valson Thampu,
Zakia Jowher, Kamala Bhasin, Asghar Wajahat, Vivan Sundaram, Danish
Ali ,Vijender Sharma, Bijulal MV, Benny K, Vimalbhai, Dinesh Varsheny,
Sagari Chabra,
Vincent Manoharan, Sudhir Kumar, SQ Ilyas, MJ Vijayan Sehba Farooqui,
Albeena Shakil, Sidheshwar Shukla, Ravindranathan, Rohit, Ginu
Zacharia, Shaswati Mazumdar, Kewal Goswami, Rachpal Kaur, Dheerendra
Sharma, Arjumand Ara, Ramanand, S.S. Sisodia, Mahesh Rathi, Jaishree,
Prabir Purkayastha and others.

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[GreenYouth] Fwd: Asia Journalism Fellowship

2008-10-10 Thread aryakrishnan ramakrishnan

Asia Journalism Fellowship

The Fellowship brings up to 15 journalists from Asia to Singapore's
Wee Kim Wee School of Communication and Information at Nanyang
Technological University for three months.

As a Fellow, you will have the opportunity to pursue your intellectual
interests together with other accomplished journalists from the
region, away from the deadline pressures of your job. The
semi-structured programme is designed to sharpen your professional
skills and deepen your understanding of trends in media and
communication at a time of rapid and sweeping change.

It will also provide access to key newsmakers in Singapore's public
sector, business community and civil society, giving you insights into
the challenges faced by one of Asia's most cosmopolitan hub cities.
Wee Kim Wee School of Communication and Information, NTU

The Wee Kim Wee School of Communication and Information is one of the
leading schools of its kind in Asia.

It has an enrollment of around 1,000 undergraduate and postgraduate
students in fields such as journalism, public relations and knowledge
management. Its more than 40 full-time faculty are engaged in diverse
research, ranging from media law and censorship, public opinion and
health communication, to video game culture and Asian film.

The Wee Kim Wee School is also the home of the Asian Media Information
and Communication Centre (AMIC), an NGO that spearheads the
development of media and communication expertise in Asia within the
broad framework of economic, social and cultural development. For more
than 30 years, its programmes and publications have crossed the
boundaries between academia, media professions and policy makers,
allowing those with an interest in communication in Asia to share
perspectives, challenges, and best practices.
Temasek Foundation

The Fellowship is made possible by Temasek Foundation, a non-profit
philanthropic organisation anchored in Singapore that seeks to
contribute to sustainable growth and a bright future of hope and
opportunities for people in Asia.

The foundation works with partners to support programmes that develop
people through health care, education and research, programmes that
build bridges between peoples, programmes that build institutions of
excellence through good governance and ethics, and programmes that
rebuild lives and livelihoods affected by natural disasters.

For more details see:
http://www.ajf.sg/index.php

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[GreenYouth] Re: SHIVER… DOWN THE SPINE.

2008-10-10 Thread shinaj ps
i have been following this  RAW paid journalist for sometime, it is
interesting to see that he was a senior fellow at United States Institute of
Peace, US congress funded institute for conducting studies on  jihad
in one of his article appeared in hindu (2or 3 months back), he was
describing how the SIMI activist are inspired by the book Tuhfatul
Mujahideen written by Zainudeen Makdoom. it is the only available material
on the struggle against Portugeese in Malabar written in Arabic;
unfortunately carried the most hated word Mujahideen in its tittle
Shinaj
2008/10/10 Bobby Kunhu [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Praveen Swami shoots off his mouth again. The latest opinion piece by this
 self-styled expert on terrorism is available on today's Hindu. The way he
 goes on about the Jamia encounter is as if its an eye-witness encounter. He
 sounds more like a spokesperson for the Police than a journalist. While
 talking about terrorists, he drops the usual and basic journalistic
 courtesies like alleged, accused etc and has already passed judgement.
 Its interesting how he has turned the tables on criticisms against the media
 for their coverage of the episode, in one stroke negating and rubbishing a
 range of acftors from the Delhi Union of Journalists to the Jamia Teachers
 Union  to the three senior congress leaders who met the PM alarmed at the
 way the encounter was staged and have been urging for an inquiry. He starts
 with a Lewis Caroll quote that best fits his own article.
 I am sufferring from a bad flu and cold or I would have attempted a more
 systematic rebuttal of his piece for a wider audience (which is not difficul
 givent the shoddiness that has gone into this piece). I hope someone does it
 soon
 I hope friends from the Hindu in this forum need to tell this bloke to go
 do a refresher course in Journalism or on the other hand join the VHP as
 their spokesperson

 2008/10/9 Bobby Kunhu [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Dear Gouri
 Thats precisely why Praveen Swami is dangerous, because he comes across
 polished and rounded. The fellow needs to be exposed.
 Dear Venu
 He is one of my personal blacklists as well. I usually ignore the kinds of
 him wherever they may appear, but this was in a context that one was forced
 to read this miscreant!!!
 Warmly


 2008/10/9 venukm [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Parveen Swamy has been around for quite some time with such theories
 on the intellectual communities' irresponsible sympathy with terror
 suspects and too much of demands for legal methods of combating
 terrorism on the part of State. I have learned to save time by not
 reading such stuff, whether it appears in the Hindu , EPW or wherever.
 Hope the same will be good for others too,if you please.

 On 9 Oct, 14:02, damodar prasad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Reading praveen swamy, I think he is/has been specially corresponding
 for
  IB. A classic case of embeddedness!!
 
  How and why should a journalist treat IB as a definite source without
 any
  cross-checking or double checking!!
 
  On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 2:05 PM, ranju radha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
   praveen swamy has been constantly engaged in demonising muslims via
 his
   propaganda stories.
   he seems to be the man in The Hindu to plant stories against muslim
 Other.
   so pathetic !!
 
   On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Gouri Patwardhan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
   what do you say about the article Bobby? Its such a smooth
   story.perfectly detailed,rounded. Only in the end it makes a plea
 that
   the Indian state does something to change minds of these mis guided
   youth and bring them on the path of democracy
   :)
 
   On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 11:58 AM, Bobby Kunhu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
   wrote:
thehoot.org carried a piece today on Praveen Swami's article, I
 thought
   it
might be useful to post it in this thread
 
  
 http://thehoot.org/web/home/story.php?storyid=3364pg=1mod=1section...
 
Was he there?
 
Posted Wednesday, Oct 08 23:52:28, 2008
 
The Hindu (Oct 4) carries an edit page article by Praveen Swami,
 titled
'Mapping the Indian Mujahideen'. It presents every minute detail
 on
   Indian
Mujahideen, its 'top operative' Atif Amin and how the whole thing
 works.
(The first sentence reads, Eight days before he was shot dead,
 top
   Indian
Mujahideen (IM) operative Atif Amin helped to draft the manifesto
 that
   the
terror group was to issue…) According to whom? There is no
 attribution
   of
any kind.
 
2008/10/8 ranju radha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
dear all,
 
i think there is a need to go beyond this. this may not be the
 first
   and
last case. there s a need to form a group or cell to assist,
 guide and
provide professional legal aid to all such people who are being
   harassed in
the name of caste, gender or religion. and what not.
professional legal help seems to be the need of the hour. As we
 dont
   know
how to deal with such a situation legally. A Citizen Legal 

[GreenYouth] CHENGARA LAND STRUGGLE

2008-10-10 Thread haynes davis
*are these points described in this article valid? esp about the leaders
involved in the struggle?
*

*
*

*
*

*
*

*CHENGARA LAND STRUGGLE*


 *A Conspiracy That Apparently  Precedes Another Nandigram*


 *Jiju Alex*


 A GRAND conspiracy is being contemplated by certain elements owing
allegiance to religious forces along with Naxal-Maoist groups in Kerala to
thwart the historic efforts of the ruling LDF government to provide the
downtrodden sections with land and houses, on a massive scale. That it is a
conspiracy has become clearer of late with several reports on the real
endowments of the so-called *landless* activists of the *Chengara* strike
coming out. There are telling evidences to substantiate that these unlawful
act of encroachment is aided and abetted by imperialist forces in collusion
with the anti left forces mentioned above. However, in elite media and among
the liberal intellectual circles, it is being deliberately portrayed as a
landmark struggle for land reforms, redistribution of excess land and ever
so many other radical transformations in Kerala. This section of the media
leaves no opportunity to celebrate this incident as an indication of some
grave crises in the agrarian sector in Kerala and that it is going to be a
harbinger of greater changes in agrarian relations, something that a CPI (M)
refuses to implement. They try to accuse the CPI (M) of anti peasant and
anti working class attitudes by citing *Chengara* strike as a symbol of its
subjugation to the rich and influential sections of the society. This is
evidently a distorted version of the affair that deserves to be refuted.  It
is nothing but a premeditated attempt to tarnish the face of the LDF
government and the CPI(M).


 The *Chengara* agitation was started on August 3, 2007, by two
organisations that claim to be of dalits and adivasis under the common
banner of *Chengara bhoosamara aikyavedi samathi*, for grabbing and
distributing the land of Harrison plantation, Chengara, Pathanamthitta
district. Now, almost about a year since then, the agitators have literally
seized the area rendering hundreds of plantation workers jobless. The
agitation was initiated under the guise of an innocent demand for land for
the landless dalits. The occasion of launching the struggle is particularly
significant since it was the time when the LDF government had emphasised its
resolve to grab all the unlawful possessions of the land mafia across the
state. It is widely known that the LDF government is seriously pursuing this
with a view to create a land bank, which could be duly distributed to
dalits, adivasis and other landless people. As we understand it clearly now,
the agitation has other intentions, much greater and far-reaching than what
they say. They intend to divert the attention of the public from the
visionary steps taken by the government and attract a section of apolitical
intellectuals towards a non-issue to create chaos and unrest in the state.
The initial steps of the struggle somehow or the other resemble the covert
sprout of a Nandigram model debacle.


 One of the startling observations regarding this struggle is that these
organizations receive substantial monetary assistance from several domestic
and foreign agencies such as the Ford foundation, USA. This struggle would
have been justifiable if the LDF government had shown an iota of aversion to
the cause of landless dalits and adivasis in the state. In fact, the LDF
government has already announced its commitment to the concerns of the poor
and initiated many a landmark decision to safeguard the interests of the
landless. One major step towards this direction has been the unprecedented
resolve to find out all illegal possessions of the land mafia as stated
earlier. This has been widely acclaimed as the most daring step a government
could ever take. No UDF government has attempted it before. The LDF
government has been largely successful in cracking down the land mafia and
grabbing unlawful possessions, without letting these steps go into
irresolvable legal complexities.


 When a government, which is unambiguously committed to such serious
concerns rules the state, why should someone come out with a struggle on
such a non-issue?


 It is in this context, we doubt the intentions of the *Chengara *struggle,
which is sponsored by forces of dubious backgrounds with the support of
Naxals and Maoists. Though there had been constant attempts to provoke the
police and create untoward incidents, which could flare up, the government
has maintained exemplary restraint and foiled the efforts of the *samara
samithi*. The agitating groups now show signs of disintegration as evinced
by the several voices of dissent from within the group. Initially, followers
were enticed by assuring that each one would get five acres of land if they
contributed Rs 1500-3000 to the organisers of the struggle. Many people,
even from neighbouring districts had ventured to participate in the struggle
in 

[GreenYouth] Re: CHENGARA LAND STRUGGLE

2008-10-10 Thread Anil Tharayath Varghese

please refer the earlier discussions in this group and then choose
what is right and wrong

On Oct 10, 1:37 pm, haynes davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 *are these points described in this article valid? esp about the leaders
 involved in the struggle?
 *

 *
 *

 *
 *

 *
 *

 *CHENGARA LAND STRUGGLE*

  *A Conspiracy That Apparently  Precedes Another Nandigram*

  *Jiju Alex*

  A GRAND conspiracy is being contemplated by certain elements owing
 allegiance to religious forces along with Naxal-Maoist groups in Kerala to
 thwart the historic efforts of the ruling LDF government to provide the
 downtrodden sections with land and houses, on a massive scale. That it is a
 conspiracy has become clearer of late with several reports on the real
 endowments of the so-called *landless* activists of the *Chengara* strike
 coming out. There are telling evidences to substantiate that these unlawful
 act of encroachment is aided and abetted by imperialist forces in collusion
 with the anti left forces mentioned above. However, in elite media and among
 the liberal intellectual circles, it is being deliberately portrayed as a
 landmark struggle for land reforms, redistribution of excess land and ever
 so many other radical transformations in Kerala. This section of the media
 leaves no opportunity to celebrate this incident as an indication of some
 grave crises in the agrarian sector in Kerala and that it is going to be a
 harbinger of greater changes in agrarian relations, something that a CPI (M)
 refuses to implement. They try to accuse the CPI (M) of anti peasant and
 anti working class attitudes by citing *Chengara* strike as a symbol of its
 subjugation to the rich and influential sections of the society. This is
 evidently a distorted version of the affair that deserves to be refuted.  It
 is nothing but a premeditated attempt to tarnish the face of the LDF
 government and the CPI(M).

  The *Chengara* agitation was started on August 3, 2007, by two
 organisations that claim to be of dalits and adivasis under the common
 banner of *Chengara bhoosamara aikyavedi samathi*, for grabbing and
 distributing the land of Harrison plantation, Chengara, Pathanamthitta
 district. Now, almost about a year since then, the agitators have literally
 seized the area rendering hundreds of plantation workers jobless. The
 agitation was initiated under the guise of an innocent demand for land for
 the landless dalits. The occasion of launching the struggle is particularly
 significant since it was the time when the LDF government had emphasised its
 resolve to grab all the unlawful possessions of the land mafia across the
 state. It is widely known that the LDF government is seriously pursuing this
 with a view to create a land bank, which could be duly distributed to
 dalits, adivasis and other landless people. As we understand it clearly now,
 the agitation has other intentions, much greater and far-reaching than what
 they say. They intend to divert the attention of the public from the
 visionary steps taken by the government and attract a section of apolitical
 intellectuals towards a non-issue to create chaos and unrest in the state.
 The initial steps of the struggle somehow or the other resemble the covert
 sprout of a Nandigram model debacle.

  One of the startling observations regarding this struggle is that these
 organizations receive substantial monetary assistance from several domestic
 and foreign agencies such as the Ford foundation, USA. This struggle would
 have been justifiable if the LDF government had shown an iota of aversion to
 the cause of landless dalits and adivasis in the state. In fact, the LDF
 government has already announced its commitment to the concerns of the poor
 and initiated many a landmark decision to safeguard the interests of the
 landless. One major step towards this direction has been the unprecedented
 resolve to find out all illegal possessions of the land mafia as stated
 earlier. This has been widely acclaimed as the most daring step a government
 could ever take. No UDF government has attempted it before. The LDF
 government has been largely successful in cracking down the land mafia and
 grabbing unlawful possessions, without letting these steps go into
 irresolvable legal complexities.

  When a government, which is unambiguously committed to such serious
 concerns rules the state, why should someone come out with a struggle on
 such a non-issue?

  It is in this context, we doubt the intentions of the *Chengara *struggle,
 which is sponsored by forces of dubious backgrounds with the support of
 Naxals and Maoists. Though there had been constant attempts to provoke the
 police and create untoward incidents, which could flare up, the government
 has maintained exemplary restraint and foiled the efforts of the *samara
 samithi*. The agitating groups now show signs of disintegration as evinced
 by the several voices of dissent from within the group. Initially, followers
 were 

[GreenYouth] FWDED:What kind of mother is Bharat Mata?

2008-10-10 Thread Venugopalan K M

( Excerpts from a post in IHRO) 

What kind of mother is Bharat Mata?

. When a young Catholic nun was being raped in Orissa's Kandhmal
district and paraded naked by men shouting Bharat Mata ki jai, one
only wondered what kind of a mother can allow this to happen to her
children? The violence led by Hindutva agents in Jammu for the shrine
board land also featured Bharat Mata Ki Jai slogans while setting fire
to Muslims' homes.

The great Bharat Mata army — going by the name of Bajrang Dal and
similar fundamentalist groups — is bragging before cameras about the
fear it has unleashed.

At times like these, a Zen master asks the Indian state to try
listening to its children. The ones who are being killed, made to
disappear, raped or being forced to retreat into jungles, not the ones
demanding that laws be made more draconian, someone be hanged rather
quickly and rights activists be jailed.

This edition is dedicated to the cause of human rights, one of the
biggest lessons from our guru, Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, a lesson that
all Sikhs must live and die for. Rest may chant Bharat Mata Ki Jai. It
now denotes something different than motherhood. Monsters can't have
motherly instincts.

 Human Rights activists tear apart India's shameful record
WSN Bureau

CHANDIGARH: One of the oft-repeated grouses of historians is that
Sikhs have made far more history than they have written, and that was
because of the peculiar circumstances through which the community
passed. But in twentieth century and in the 21st, the luxury of weak
documentation does not exist. Human Rights activists from across the
globe who gathered in Chandigarh this month stress this aspect and the
significance of scientific documentation of victims of state
repression.

The two-day symposium organized by the Hong Kong-based South Asia
Forum for Human Rights (SAFHR) in collaboration with the Indian
Council of Social Science Research (ICSSR) titled 'Understanding
Impunity: Failures  Possibilities of Rights to Truth, Justice and
Reparation' said if such documentation had been better, many top
Punjab Police officials today would have been in jail.

Recalling the dark days of militancy in the state, Jasmine Marwaha, a
Law Graduate from Harvard Law School and a researcher, said in
incidents like enforced disappearances and mass cremations in Punjab,
scientific and methodical documentation was extremely necessary to
nail the state actors responsible for repression and rights
violations.

Though the deceased human rights activist Jaswant Singh Khalra had
put in a lot of hard work to assess that there were nearly 6,000
people in Punjab who went missing and were later cremated illegally by
the Punjab Police during the days of terrorism, the Committee for
Information and Initiative on Punjab (CIIP) could trace only 2,059
such cases. Of which, with the help of proper documentation, we have
been able to identify only 1,402 victims, said Marwaha.

Many rued the fact that the entire nation knows fully the guilt of KPS
Gill but he is free because of the activists' inability to nail him.

Sukhman Singh Dhami, Post-graduate in International Human Rights Law
from Washington, said the state was always ready to deny the human
rights violations and would not accept so unless the cases were
supported by authenticated documentation.

Shafat N. Ahmed, Centre for Law and Development and Regional Research
Associate, SAHFR, spoke about how the State Human Rights Commission
(SHRC) had failed to take note of rights violations due to inadequate
staff, infrastructure and finances.

Johanna Lokhande evaluated the criminal justice system and counter
terrorism measures and the issues of sexual violence in post–2002
Gujarat. She said that minority communities were still being targeted
systematically.

Babloo Loingtongbam, Executive Director, Human Rights Alert, Imphal,
and Angomcha Bimol Akoijam, Associate Fellow from Centre for the Study
of Developing Societies, Delhi spoke on the non-state actors and the
issue of accountability and how the Armed Forces Special Powers Act
was draconian in nature and despite many agitations and report
submitted by the Reddy Commission, it has still not been repealed.


What kind of mother is Bharat Mata?

When a young Catholic nun was being raped in Orissa's Kandhmal
district and paraded naked by men shouting Bharat Mata ki jai, one
only wondered what kind of a mother can allow this to happen to her
children? The violence led by Hindutva agents in Jammu for the shrine
board land also featured Bharat Mata Ki Jai slogans while setting fire
to Muslims' homes.

The great Bharat Mata army — going by the name of Bajrang Dal and
similar fundamentalist groups — is bragging before cameras about the
fear it has unleashed.

At times like these, a Zen master asks the Indian state to try
listening to its children. The ones who are being killed, made to
disappear, raped or being forced to retreat into jungles, not the ones
demanding that laws be 

[GreenYouth] Re: SHIVER… DOWN THE SPINE.

2008-10-10 Thread Bobby Kunhu
Thats a good one that the *Tuhfatul Mujahideen *is the bible for SIMI
Well, so much for expertise

2008/10/10 shinaj ps [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 i have been following this  RAW paid journalist for sometime, it is
 interesting to see that he was a senior fellow at United States Institute of
 Peace, US congress funded institute for conducting studies on  jihad
 in one of his article appeared in hindu (2or 3 months back), he was
 describing how the SIMI activist are inspired by the book Tuhfatul
 Mujahideen written by Zainudeen Makdoom. it is the only available material
 on the struggle against Portugeese in Malabar written in Arabic;
 unfortunately carried the most hated word Mujahideen in its tittle
 Shinaj
 2008/10/10 Bobby Kunhu [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Praveen Swami shoots off his mouth again. The latest opinion piece by this
 self-styled expert on terrorism is available on today's Hindu. The way he
 goes on about the Jamia encounter is as if its an eye-witness encounter. He
 sounds more like a spokesperson for the Police than a journalist. While
 talking about terrorists, he drops the usual and basic journalistic
 courtesies like alleged, accused etc and has already passed judgement.
 Its interesting how he has turned the tables on criticisms against the media
 for their coverage of the episode, in one stroke negating and rubbishing a
 range of acftors from the Delhi Union of Journalists to the Jamia Teachers
 Union  to the three senior congress leaders who met the PM alarmed at the
 way the encounter was staged and have been urging for an inquiry. He starts
 with a Lewis Caroll quote that best fits his own article.
 I am sufferring from a bad flu and cold or I would have attempted a more
 systematic rebuttal of his piece for a wider audience (which is not difficul
 givent the shoddiness that has gone into this piece). I hope someone does it
 soon
 I hope friends from the Hindu in this forum need to tell this bloke to go
 do a refresher course in Journalism or on the other hand join the VHP as
 their spokesperson

 2008/10/9 Bobby Kunhu [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Dear Gouri
 Thats precisely why Praveen Swami is dangerous, because he comes across
 polished and rounded. The fellow needs to be exposed.
 Dear Venu
 He is one of my personal blacklists as well. I usually ignore the kinds
 of him wherever they may appear, but this was in a context that one was
 forced to read this miscreant!!!
 Warmly


 2008/10/9 venukm [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Parveen Swamy has been around for quite some time with such theories
 on the intellectual communities' irresponsible sympathy with terror
 suspects and too much of demands for legal methods of combating
 terrorism on the part of State. I have learned to save time by not
 reading such stuff, whether it appears in the Hindu , EPW or wherever.
 Hope the same will be good for others too,if you please.

 On 9 Oct, 14:02, damodar prasad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Reading praveen swamy, I think he is/has been specially corresponding
 for
  IB. A classic case of embeddedness!!
 
  How and why should a journalist treat IB as a definite source without
 any
  cross-checking or double checking!!
 
  On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 2:05 PM, ranju radha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
   praveen swamy has been constantly engaged in demonising muslims via
 his
   propaganda stories.
   he seems to be the man in The Hindu to plant stories against muslim
 Other.
   so pathetic !!
 
   On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Gouri Patwardhan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
   what do you say about the article Bobby? Its such a smooth
   story.perfectly detailed,rounded. Only in the end it makes a plea
 that
   the Indian state does something to change minds of these mis guided
   youth and bring them on the path of democracy
   :)
 
   On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 11:58 AM, Bobby Kunhu 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:
thehoot.org carried a piece today on Praveen Swami's article, I
 thought
   it
might be useful to post it in this thread
 
  
 http://thehoot.org/web/home/story.php?storyid=3364pg=1mod=1section.
 ..
 
Was he there?
 
Posted Wednesday, Oct 08 23:52:28, 2008
 
The Hindu (Oct 4) carries an edit page article by Praveen Swami,
 titled
'Mapping the Indian Mujahideen'. It presents every minute detail
 on
   Indian
Mujahideen, its 'top operative' Atif Amin and how the whole thing
 works.
(The first sentence reads, Eight days before he was shot dead,
 top
   Indian
Mujahideen (IM) operative Atif Amin helped to draft the manifesto
 that
   the
terror group was to issue…) According to whom? There is no
 attribution
   of
any kind.
 
2008/10/8 ranju radha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
dear all,
 
i think there is a need to go beyond this. this may not be the
 first
   and
last case. there s a need to form a group or cell to assist,
 guide and
provide professional legal aid to all such people who are being
   harassed in
the name of caste, gender or religion. and 

[GreenYouth] Christians as the New Muslims..

2008-10-10 Thread C.K. Vishwanath





Christians as the New Muslims 

by   
Dipankar Gupta
 

Why the Christians? Have we run out of Muslims and Sikhs that a small and
insignificant minority should be slaughtered, pillaged and raped at will by
right wing Hindu forces? This may sound strange, but in a real sense the saffron
mob has indeed –if not in words-run out of options. This is why they have now
turned against Christians. They are the last soft target! 

The Sikhs set the retaliation game in motion. They hit out, often randomly,
making it known to Hindu sectarians that taking on a Sikh will not be a picnic
any longer. This stopped further attacks against them. The Muslims picked up
this lead and set their own pace by orchestrating the Mumbai blasts of 1993, and
several after that in quick succession. So the Muslims can no longer be hunted
down either for casual Hindu amusement. 

This only leaves the Christians. It must be borne in mind that Hindu
activists are at their predacious best when the kill is easy and their own
safety assured in advance. This is why where Christians are in sizable numbers,
such as in Nagaland, Kerala or even Goa, Hindu sectarians dare not touch them.
Instead they turn to areas like the Dangs in Gujarat or Kandmahal in Orissa
where Christians are scattered and isolated. In these places it is easy to kill
without the fear of being killed. 

Ever since the Mumbai blasts the Muslims in that metropolis feel much
safer. In many sensitive areas they have had no difficult in increasing the
plinth area of their mosques or the height of these structures. In fact, word
has gone around among Muslims in the city that they can count on Shiv Sena
support for these activities. If truth be told, the day after the Mumbai blast
in 1993, the Shiv Sena newspaper Samna editorialized in a most conciliatory
fashion asking for greater understanding between communities. Till then Bal
Thackery, through this daily, was spewing hell fire and brimstone. What led him
to alter his tone? What had changed? 

The answer is ridiculously simple. One of the bombs in the Mumbai blasts
went off outside the Shiv Sena office. This scared the Shiv Sena heroes into
changing their tone and going immediately on the defensive. Something quite
similar happened in Gujarat. After Godhra, bombs went off in different parts of
India, including Ahmedabad, but this time there was no Hindu
retaliation. If Modi could not control the Hindus after Godhra, how
did he manage it in the face of a clear and direct challenge from Muslims in his
own state? Clearly, fear of Muslim retaliation filled the bullying hearts of
Hindu partisans. They now realized that hate shrapnels could also be directed
towards them. This took the shine off from anti-Muslim carnages. This gave them
more than enough reason to pause.

And while they paused they pondered. If not the Sikhs and the Muslims, who
then? Then the paisa dropped- of course the Christians!

This is why it is important to distinguish between those who are willing to
die for a cause from those who are only willing to kill for one. Hindu parties
and organizations, all the way to the BJP, can encourage, condone and organize
mobs to kill for Hindutva, but none of them is willing to die for it. This trait
also separates fundamentalist from pure ethnic baiters. A fundamentalist like
Khomeini, and even Bhindanwala, would encourage the faithful to go back to the
foundational principles of their religion and draw strength from there. Khomeini
said that America may be the house of the Shaitan, but Muslims must pay
attention first and foremost to the five pillars of Islam. 

No such catechism for the Hindu mobs. Bal Thackeray said that to be a good
Hindu one must be ready, willing and able to attack Muslims. He believed that
this was the surest way of avenging centuries of hurt. It is, therefore, not
necessary for Shiv Sainiks, or for most Hindu sectarians, to be well versed in
Hinduism. This is why Shiv Sainiks believe that good Hindus can be in blue
jeans, as long as there is hate in their hearts and saffron in their flags. 

It should be clear by now that there is no social science behind the
killings of Muslims, Sikhs, or Christians. Even so, academics, intellectuals,
commentators and secular do-gooders are always searching for social and economic
reasons behind these ethnic slaughters. What they do not realize is that the
moment one gives into this kind of weak secular urges, Hindu mobs find easy
justification. Muslim terrorism today has nothing to do with Al Qaeeda, Taliban,
Palestine, or even Iraq. These terrorists are home bred and are direct outcomes
of Babri Masjid and Godhra. 

So when Christians are being killed let us not search for its causes in the
rising graph of conversions. Such an exercise is not only fraught with
difficulties, but it may also direct our attention to poverty based
explanations. Which in turn would be the 

[GreenYouth] Re: A new work on Gandhi in the current issue of EPW

2008-10-10 Thread C.K. Vishwanath
this is a more or less the same position of vinay lal.I don't like to subscribe 
the gandhian criticism of prof.Randhir singh (such kind of simple 
criticism).that is gandhism is a pettibourgeoise idealogy for the service of a 
big bourgeoise.

--- On Wed, 8/10/08, James Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: James Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [GreenYouth] A new work on Gandhi in the current issue of EPW
To: greenyouth@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 8 October, 2008, 3:35 PM

Hello All,
A new work on Gandhi by Vinay Lal.
Attached.
James.


2008/10/8 C.K. Vishwanath [EMAIL PROTECTED]







--- On Tue, 7/10/08, Shiva Shankar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: Shiva Shankar [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Dear CKV,

I am writing to you again on behalf of my good friend Benjamin 
Kaila and the Ambedkar Scholarships programme that he runs.
I have had the good fortune to be associated with Benjamin since 
the beginning. Since the last two years the scholarship programme has been 

enlarged to include a special category to help children whose parents have 
to scavenge for a living.
I would be grateful if you can consider supporting this programme, 
and also if you will forward this appeal to others who are concerned.

Many thanks.
Yours sincerely,
Shiva
 Shankar.

---

A special category in Ambedkar Scholarships

Encouraged by the response to the Ambedkar Scholarships Programme that we 
launched just 5 years ago, we have initiated a special category to help 

our most deprived and discriminated children - those whose parents have to 
scavenge for a living.

There are over 14 lakh Dalit people who are forced to earn a pitiful 
living by cleaning dry latrines. Though outlawed in 1993, this hateful 

practice still continues.

Andhra Pradesh is one of the states which has a very large number of 
people working at this. Andhra Pradesh is also one of the states that is 
at the forefront of the war to end this shameful blot on humanity. Under 

the leadership of the legendary Bezwada Wilson, the Safai Karamchari 
Andolan (SKA) is making great progress in this war - please read Gita 
Ramaswamy's India Stinking (published
 by Navayana) for details.

Ambedkar Scholarship is proud to associate itself with SKA in starting a 
special category to help children of people who have to scavenge go to 
school and college. SKA will select the recipients of these scholarships.


The other conditions for these scholarships will remain as before.

To support a child please contribute Rs.5,500/ or US$150/. This 
scholarship will support the recipient for one year.

Please send your cheque to


Mr.Devdas Adidela,
#302,Chandra Ganga Enclave,
Brindavan Colony,
Dr. A.S.Rao Nagar, E.C.I.L. Post,
Hyderabad - 500062,
India.

or
Mr.Benjamin Kaila,
4133 La Crescenta Ave.,

Apartment 9,
La Crescenta, CA - 91214,
USA.

IMPORTANT - Please mention whether your contribution is to be included in 
the open category (meant for any Dalit child) or the special

category 
(meant for
 children whose parents have to scavenge).

Please visit www.ambedkarscholarship.org for more information about these 
programmes.

   Educate, Agitate, Organise






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[GreenYouth] Fwd: NATIONAL CONVENTION AGAINST FASCISM-DELHI-OCTOBER 25,26,2008

2008-10-10 Thread Bobby Kunhu
Please excuse cross-posting, but this is important.

Begin forwarded message:

*From: *anhad bihar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Date: * October 9 2008 12:25:50 PM GMT+05:30
*To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Subject: **NATIONAL CONVENTION AGAINST FASCISM-DELHI-OCTOBER 25,26,2008*


*NATIONAL CONVENTION AGAINST FASCISM*

*OCTOBER 25-26, 2008*

*NEW DELHI
*

Dear Friends,

The urgency to intervene in defense of democracy, secularism and justice has
never been more pressing than in the conditions prevailing in the country
today. There is a recognizable change in the general tenor of public
discourse; unlike in the past, it is informed more by the communal than by
secular ethos. Concerted attacks have been mounted across India by communal
fascist organizations by invoking religious symbols and sentiments. There is
total apathy and indecisiveness towards confronting this challenge by those
in power.

RSS and organizations under its umbrella have mounted a vicious campaign
against the Christian community across India. Over 10 states have seen
violent attacks on the Christian community , their institutions, religious
places, property and businesses during the past one month. The culprits
behind the communal violence against Christians in Orissa, Karnataka, Madhya
Pradesh and other states are being allowed to go scot-free.

The recent attacks on Christian religious institutions are in fact openly
claimed by Hindutva terrorist groups, like the Bajrang Dal, in front of
television news cameras and yet no action is taken against them.
Throughout the country Muslim youth are being targeted, without any or
little evidence, as responsible for terrorist attacks.  There is a concerted
attempt by the Indian police, sections of the media and certain political
parties to portray all members of the Muslim community as 'terrorists and
extremists' - to be arbitrarily arrested, tortured and killed in fake
encounters.


On the other hand hard evidence available against Bajrang Dal and other
Sangh outfits about their direct involvement in terror attacks is not only
being ignored but actively being pushed under the carpet by the state.

The spaces uncolonized by the RSS network are decreasing by the day. The
threat from the fascist forces is not only to the survival and dignity of
India but to the very idea of India.
We feel that there is urgent need to call for a national convention to
challenge the forces of fascism. We had sent out sms messages to about 40
organisations to get a response from them about the possibility of
organizing a national convention on 25 and 26 October, 2008 in New Delhi.

All those who responded felt the need for this convention.

*Please respond urgently to this mail:*

1.  By endorsing the convention- send the name of your organization/
individual

2.  By supporting your own travel and if your organization can support
the travel of 5-10 people from your state who are working on these issues.

3.  Wherever possible arrange for your own stay in Delhi. Those who
can't inform us in advance.

4.  Groups in Delhi- Help in sponsoring the breakfast/ lunch and dinner
for the convention and stay for the outstation participants.

5.  Please inform us how many people from your group will participate
and whether any/ all of them will require stay arrangements in Delhi.

 The program for the two days is being finalized . Please send suggestions .
We will also inform the venue and the final schedule for the convention as
soon as it is finalised after hearing from more groups/ individuals.


Shabnam Hashmi

ANHAD

Tel- 23070740/ 23070722

e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Those groups who responded the sms message and have already endorsed Anhad's
call for the convention are:

All India Christian Council

All India Dalit Mahila Adhikar Manch

All India Quami Mahaz

Aman Biradari

Aman Samudaya

ANHAD

Antarik Visthapit Hak Rakshak Samiti

ASHA Pariwar

Awaz e- Niswana

Bhartiya Muslim Mahila Andolan

Campaign for Judicial Accountability and reforms

CSSS

Darpana Academy

EKTA

NCHRO

Insaf

ISD

Janvikas

Mahatma Gandhi Foundation

National Campaign for Dalit Human Rights

Peace

People's Research Society

PRASHANT

Roshan Vikas

Sahrwaru

Sajhi Duniya

Samarpan

Sanchetana

Sandarbh

Urja Ghar

Yuv Shakti






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