Re: [h-cost] Victorian quilled fabric trim
Certifiable, Lauren. Certifiable. :) ==Marjorie Wilser @..@ @..@ @..@ Three Toad Press http://3toad.blogspot.com/ On Sep 20, 2012, at 10:21 PM, Lauren Walker wrote (in part): Hi, Just wanted to mention that I'm now trying to do a version of Victorian quilled fabric trim on a 1/12 scale evening dress. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Puts the burden where it belongs!
Perhaps you are unaware that many emails that come with just links are viruses. It only takes a moment to write a sentence or two. It is the current norm for email etiquette. For what it's worth, I agree--if sending a link, I would append a sentence first. Ann Wass -Original Message- From: Lavolta Press f...@lavoltapress.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Thu, Sep 20, 2012 11:26 pm Subject: Re: [h-cost] Puts the burden where it belongs! Yes, I am aware of that. But I have a really urgent discussion elsewhere to get to about whether people should top post, bottom post, or interweave and the way things were done on USENET in the 1980s. So you'll all have to decide for yourselves whether to click on a link or not. Fran Lavolta Press www.lavoltapress.com On 9/20/2012 8:16 PM, Beteena Paradise wrote: Fran, Perhaps you are unaware that many emails that come with just links are viruses. It only takes a moment to write a sentence or two. It is the current norm for email etiquette. Teena From: Lavolta Press f...@lavoltapress.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 10:57 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Puts the burden where it belongs! If you don't want to click on them, don't. Simple as that. Fran On 9/20/2012 6:18 PM, Ginni Morgan wrote: I don't click on bare links without at least a short explanation of where they're going or what they're about, so I agree with Joan on this. What are they? Ginni Morgan Lavolta Press f...@lavoltapress.com 9/20/12 4:34 PM Did you read the articles? Or the link titles? Fran Lavolta Press http://www.lavoltapress.com/ On 9/20/2012 4:18 PM, Joan Jurancich wrote: At 08:26 PM 9/16/2012, you wrote: http://www.freakonomics.com/2012/09/07/modesty-glasses/ http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/08/ultra-orthodox-jews-blurry-glasses_n_1757338.html http://www.modestyglasses.com/index.html Fran Lavolta Press www.lavoltapress.com www.facebook.com/LavoltaPress What in the world are these links about? Joan Jurancich joa...@surewest.net ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication with its contents may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information. It is solely for the use of the intended recipient(s). Unauthorized interception, review, use or disclosure is prohibited and may violate applicable laws including the Electronic Communications Privacy Act. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the communication. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Hair and Reenacting
Thank you to everyone who had offered ideas for head coverings and ideas for starting points for reasearched. I haven't done any costuming in the last five years or so and I'm struggling to remember what I had learnt before then. I guess I'm also stressing a little because I'm already self-concious about drawing attention to my face at events when I'm not wearing sunglasses. My medication paralyse my eye muscles and pupils open, and I usually I hide that behind Ray-Bans. I dyed my hair to add colour to my face. The henna colour in some lights is a metallic wine-red and in other lights the colour matches a piece of burnt sienna coating I have. I don't remember seeing that shade of red as a natural hair colour but I could be wrong. I do know of a couple of local wigmakers locally who do make human hair wigs. One of them will buy hair, which is what prompted this line of thought. I do expect made to order wigs to be expensive like any craft that takes many, many hours of hand work. Cost is one of the reasons I'm after opinions and ideas before making enquiries to them. I had not thought of using the hair for switches which sounds much more feasible. How is the best way to make them into pieces that won't fall apart? Sharon Phillips (I use Dragon Dictate to compose emails. Strange word substitutions may occur.) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Puts the burden where it belongs!
Hi Ginni and Joan, The articles are regarding Orthodox Jews who complain about women's immodest dress. The solution is for them to wear blurring glasses. There is a common sp*m going around, links supposedly sent by friends. It does help to have some lead-in from the sender, so we can trust the links (and the e-mail) are real! -Carol On Sep 20, 2012, at 9:18 PM, Ginni Morgan wrote: I don't click on bare links without at least a short explanation of where they're going or what they're about, so I agree with Joan on this. What are they? Ginni Morgan Lavolta Press f...@lavoltapress.com 9/20/12 4:34 PM Did you read the articles? Or the link titles? Fran Lavolta Press www.lavoltapress.com On 9/20/2012 4:18 PM, Joan Jurancich wrote: At 08:26 PM 9/16/2012, you wrote: http://www.freakonomics.com/2012/09/07/modesty-glasses/ http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/08/ultra-orthodox-jews- blurry-glasses_n_1757338.html http://www.modestyglasses.com/index.html Fran Lavolta Press www.lavoltapress.com www.facebook.com/LavoltaPress What in the world are these links about? Joan Jurancich joa...@surewest.net ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication with its contents may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information. It is solely for the use of the intended recipient(s). Unauthorized interception, review, use or disclosure is prohibited and may violate applicable laws including the Electronic Communications Privacy Act. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the communication. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Hair and Reenacting
Re: sunglasses... IIRC during one period of history people wore green lensed glasses to 'ward off / cure one type of VD.. I know - not what you want to portray, but a solution off the top of my head. As for the red in your hair... I have seen some 'natural' red heads that are brilliant red and some that are s orange / red that I have to look at their eyebrows to confirm that is their natural color. Katheryne On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 8:29 AM, Sharon Phillips vintagealternat...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you to everyone who had offered ideas for head coverings and ideas for starting points for reasearched. I haven't done any costuming in the last five years or so and I'm struggling to remember what I had learnt before then. I guess I'm also stressing a little because I'm already self-concious about drawing attention to my face at events when I'm not wearing sunglasses. My medication paralyse my eye muscles and pupils open, and I usually I hide that behind Ray-Bans. I dyed my hair to add colour to my face. The henna colour in some lights is a metallic wine-red and in other lights the colour matches a piece of burnt sienna coating I have. I don't remember seeing that shade of red as a natural hair colour but I could be wrong. Sharon Phillips ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Hair and Reenacting
I don't know if you belong to Your Wardorbe Unlock'd or not, but I recall seeing some how-to articles on hair pieces by Lynn McMasters and others. But if you aren't a member, just google making hair pieces or something similar and you should find a lot of tutorials on making your own hair pieces. Teena From: Sharon Phillips vintagealternat...@gmail.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 8:29 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Hair and Reenacting Thank you to everyone who had offered ideas for head coverings and ideas for starting points for reasearched. I haven't done any costuming in the last five years or so and I'm struggling to remember what I had learnt before then. I guess I'm also stressing a little because I'm already self-concious about drawing attention to my face at events when I'm not wearing sunglasses. My medication paralyse my eye muscles and pupils open, and I usually I hide that behind Ray-Bans. I dyed my hair to add colour to my face. The henna colour in some lights is a metallic wine-red and in other lights the colour matches a piece of burnt sienna coating I have. I don't remember seeing that shade of red as a natural hair colour but I could be wrong. I do know of a couple of local wigmakers locally who do make human hair wigs. One of them will buy hair, which is what prompted this line of thought. I do expect made to order wigs to be expensive like any craft that takes many, many hours of hand work. Cost is one of the reasons I'm after opinions and ideas before making enquiries to them. I had not thought of using the hair for switches which sounds much more feasible. How is the best way to make them into pieces that won't fall apart? Sharon Phillips (I use Dragon Dictate to compose emails. Strange word substitutions may occur.) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Victorian quilled fabric trim
Yup. - Original Message - From: Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 2:38:23 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Victorian quilled fabric trim Certifiable, Lauren. Certifiable. :) ==Marjorie Wilser @..@ @..@ @..@ Three Toad Press http://3toad.blogspot.com/ On Sep 20, 2012, at 10:21 PM, Lauren Walker wrote (in part): Hi, Just wanted to mention that I'm now trying to do a version of Victorian quilled fabric trim on a 1/12 scale evening dress. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Puts the burden where it belongs!
Thanks, Lauren, I didn't know that. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Lauren Walker Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 1:15 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Puts the burden where it belongs! PS: By the way, you can often tell if a link is a virus if you mouse-over and the actual URL doesn't match the visible link and/or ends in .exe. Don't click on those! Lauren M. Walker lauren.wal...@comcast.net On Sep 20, 2012, at 11:16 PM, Beteena Paradise wrote: Fran, Perhaps you are unaware that many emails that come with just links are viruses. It only takes a moment to write a sentence or two. It is the current norm for email etiquette. Teena From: Lavolta Press f...@lavoltapress.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 10:57 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Puts the burden where it belongs! If you don't want to click on them, don't. Simple as that. Fran On 9/20/2012 6:18 PM, Ginni Morgan wrote: I don't click on bare links without at least a short explanation of where they're going or what they're about, so I agree with Joan on this. What are they? Ginni Morgan Lavolta Press f...@lavoltapress.com 9/20/12 4:34 PM Did you read the articles? Or the link titles? Fran Lavolta Press http://www.lavoltapress.com/ On 9/20/2012 4:18 PM, Joan Jurancich wrote: At 08:26 PM 9/16/2012, you wrote: http://www.freakonomics.com/2012/09/07/modesty-glasses/ http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/08/ultra-orthodox-jews-blurry-glasses_n_1757338.html http://www.modestyglasses.com/index.html Fran Lavolta Press www.lavoltapress.com www.facebook.com/LavoltaPress What in the world are these links about? Joan Jurancich joa...@surewest.net ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication with its contents may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information. It is solely for the use of the intended recipient(s). Unauthorized interception, review, use or disclosure is prohibited and may violate applicable laws including the Electronic Communications Privacy Act. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the communication. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Puts the burden where it belongs!
Lauren said: PS: By the way, you can often tell if a link is a virus if you mouse-over and the actual URL doesn't match the visible link and/or ends in .exe. Don't click on those! This is definitely true for phishing and spoof emails, but the virus emails that contain only a link and no text generally don't do this. I would recommend never clicking on a link that doesn't have accompanying text. Teena From: Lauren Walker lauren.wal...@comcast.net To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 1:14 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Puts the burden where it belongs! PS: By the way, you can often tell if a link is a virus if you mouse-over and the actual URL doesn't match the visible link and/or ends in .exe. Don't click on those! Lauren M. Walker lauren.wal...@comcast.net On Sep 20, 2012, at 11:16 PM, Beteena Paradise wrote: Fran, Perhaps you are unaware that many emails that come with just links are viruses. It only takes a moment to write a sentence or two. It is the current norm for email etiquette. Teena From: Lavolta Press f...@lavoltapress.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 10:57 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Puts the burden where it belongs! If you don't want to click on them, don't. Simple as that. Fran On 9/20/2012 6:18 PM, Ginni Morgan wrote: I don't click on bare links without at least a short explanation of where they're going or what they're about, so I agree with Joan on this. What are they? Ginni Morgan Lavolta Press f...@lavoltapress.com 9/20/12 4:34 PM Did you read the articles? Or the link titles? Fran Lavolta Press http://www.lavoltapress.com/ On 9/20/2012 4:18 PM, Joan Jurancich wrote: At 08:26 PM 9/16/2012, you wrote: http://www.freakonomics.com/2012/09/07/modesty-glasses/ http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/08/ultra-orthodox-jews-blurry-glasses_n_1757338.html http://www.modestyglasses.com/index.html Fran Lavolta Press http://www.lavoltapress.com/ www.facebook.com/LavoltaPress What in the world are these links about? Joan Jurancich joa...@surewest.net ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication with its contents may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information. It is solely for the use of the intended recipient(s). Unauthorized interception, review, use or disclosure is prohibited and may violate applicable laws including the Electronic Communications Privacy Act. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the communication. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Puts the burden where it belongs!
Um, you are aware that there could be accompanying text and the link could still contain a virus? All the junk my ISP's spamcatcher dumps into my graymail has accompanying text. This is a ridiculous discussion, as the only person it matters to whether you click on a link, is you. Thankfully, this moribund list seems to be moving on to some actual content. Fran Lavolta Press Books of historic clothing patterns www.lavoltapress.com On 9/21/2012 9:01 AM, Beteena Paradise wrote: Lauren said: PS: By the way, you can often tell if a link is a virus if you mouse-over and the actual URL doesn't match the visible link and/or ends in .exe. Don't click on those! This is definitely true for phishing and spoof emails, but the virus emails that contain only a link and no text generally don't do this. I would recommend never clicking on a link that doesn't have accompanying text. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Puts the burden where it belongs!
Fran, as I was not the only one who remarked that they would prefer text with any links, it clearly is not just me. My point was so that no one was mislead by thinking if that circumstance didn't exist, it meant the link was safe. We have had bare link virus emails sent to this list before and people have gotten viruses by clicking on them. So, believe it or not, this isn't about you. And while not on topic with historic costuming, it is on topic with regards to members of this list getting viruses previously. As you are often seen to say, if you aren't interested in the discussion, don't read it. Teena Um, you are aware that there could be accompanying text and the link could still contain a virus? All the junk my ISP's spamcatcher dumps into my graymail has accompanying text. This is a ridiculous discussion, as the only person it matters to whether you click on a link, is you. Thankfully, this moribund list seems to be moving on to some actual content. Fran Lavolta Press Books of historic clothing patterns http://www.lavoltapress.com/ On 9/21/2012 9:01 AM, Beteena Paradise wrote: Lauren said: PS: By the way, you can often tell if a link is a virus if you mouse-over and the actual URL doesn't match the visible link and/or ends in .exe. Don't click on those! This is definitely true for phishing and spoof emails, but the virus emails that contain only a link and no text generally don't do this. I would recommend never clicking on a link that doesn't have accompanying text. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume From: Lavolta Press f...@lavoltapress.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Puts the burden where it belongs! ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Puts the burden where it belongs!
On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Lavolta Press f...@lavoltapress.com wrote: Um, you are aware that there could be accompanying text and the link could still contain a virus? All the junk my ISP's spamcatcher dumps into my graymail has accompanying text. This is a ridiculous discussion, as the only person it matters to whether you click on a link, is you. Thankfully, this moribund list seems to be moving on to some actual content. Clicking on malware links doesn't affect only that one user. Some of these links install malware on the clicker's machine and send the links to everyone in their contacts list, including all the mailing lists. Since these emails are from (or appear to be from) a trusted friend, more people click them. This is how botnets are created. Several lists I'm on are currently undergoing these attacks as more and more members of the list are being infected. --Charlene -- Will I ever reach a point in my life when I won't need to recite the whole alphabet in my head while alphabetizing? -- Aaron Karo's Ruminations.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Puts the burden where it belongs!
So don't buy anti-virus software or a firewall, don't use an ISP who filters out malware before you download it, and don't mouse over links to see what they really are. Just don't click on any links. Or don't read any email at all. Not being on the Internet is the best way to avoid all such risks, though BTW that doesn't work 100% either if you exchange files with people by any other means. But an email intro will do zip, zilch, and nada to prevent malware. Fran On 9/21/2012 1:41 PM, Charlene Charette wrote: On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Lavolta Press f...@lavoltapress.com wrote: Um, you are aware that there could be accompanying text and the link could still contain a virus? All the junk my ISP's spamcatcher dumps into my graymail has accompanying text. This is a ridiculous discussion, as the only person it matters to whether you click on a link, is you. Thankfully, this moribund list seems to be moving on to some actual content. Clicking on malware links doesn't affect only that one user. Some of these links install malware on the clicker's machine and send the links to everyone in their contacts list, including all the mailing lists. Since these emails are from (or appear to be from) a trusted friend, more people click them. This is how botnets are created. Several lists I'm on are currently undergoing these attacks as more and more members of the list are being infected. --Charlene ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Puts the burden where it belongs!
Ladies! Can we please try and keep this civil. We are starting to get close to what seems like personal attacks. I don't really want to have to drop this list because of the squabbles of a few of its members. If I wanted to listen to petty fighting I'd go back to running kids summer camps. Maggie Koenig Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Lavolta Press f...@lavoltapress.com Sender: h-costume-boun...@indra.com Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 14:22:03 To: Historical Costumeh-cost...@indra.com Reply-To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Puts the burden where it belongs! So don't buy anti-virus software or a firewall, don't use an ISP who filters out malware before you download it, and don't mouse over links to see what they really are. Just don't click on any links. Or don't read any email at all. Not being on the Internet is the best way to avoid all such risks, though BTW that doesn't work 100% either if you exchange files with people by any other means. But an email intro will do zip, zilch, and nada to prevent malware. Fran On 9/21/2012 1:41 PM, Charlene Charette wrote: On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Lavolta Press f...@lavoltapress.com wrote: Um, you are aware that there could be accompanying text and the link could still contain a virus? All the junk my ISP's spamcatcher dumps into my graymail has accompanying text. This is a ridiculous discussion, as the only person it matters to whether you click on a link, is you. Thankfully, this moribund list seems to be moving on to some actual content. Clicking on malware links doesn't affect only that one user. Some of these links install malware on the clicker's machine and send the links to everyone in their contacts list, including all the mailing lists. Since these emails are from (or appear to be from) a trusted friend, more people click them. This is how botnets are created. Several lists I'm on are currently undergoing these attacks as more and more members of the list are being infected. --Charlene ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Puts the burden where it belongs!
You're quite right. It's a silly discussion and I hate groups when they start acting like a junior high school clique, complaining about nothing and looking for other people to jump on, publicly and privately, just because they are bored. BTW, my ISP is www.sonic.net and they have great mail filters. They filter out numerous spams and viruses before they ever hit the user. Then, Sonic has excellent facilities for the user to filter out subjects, sender addresses, and many other things into a Graymail file that can be examined only at need. I can recommend Sonic for other reasons as well. Then my mail system, Thunderbird, also has good filter capabilities. With all three levels of filter in play, I have never had an email virus and I never see most spams, junk, unwanted newsletters that won't let me sign off, etc. This subject now goes into my delete file at Sonic. Fran Lavolta Press www.lavoltapress.com On 9/21/2012 2:31 PM, hhalb94...@aol.com wrote: Ladies! Can we please try and keep this civil. We are starting to get close to what seems like personal attacks. I don't really want to have to drop this list because of the squabbles of a few of its members. If I wanted to listen to petty fighting I'd go back to running kids summer camps. Maggie Koenig Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Lavolta Press f...@lavoltapress.com Sender: h-costume-boun...@indra.com Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 14:22:03 To: Historical Costumeh-cost...@indra.com Reply-To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Puts the burden where it belongs! So don't buy anti-virus software or a firewall, don't use an ISP who filters out malware before you download it, and don't mouse over links to see what they really are. Just don't click on any links. Or don't read any email at all. Not being on the Internet is the best way to avoid all such risks, though BTW that doesn't work 100% either if you exchange files with people by any other means. But an email intro will do zip, zilch, and nada to prevent malware. Fran On 9/21/2012 1:41 PM, Charlene Charette wrote: On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Lavolta Press f...@lavoltapress.com wrote: Um, you are aware that there could be accompanying text and the link could still contain a virus? All the junk my ISP's spamcatcher dumps into my graymail has accompanying text. This is a ridiculous discussion, as the only person it matters to whether you click on a link, is you. Thankfully, this moribund list seems to be moving on to some actual content. Clicking on malware links doesn't affect only that one user. Some of these links install malware on the clicker's machine and send the links to everyone in their contacts list, including all the mailing lists. Since these emails are from (or appear to be from) a trusted friend, more people click them. This is how botnets are created. Several lists I'm on are currently undergoing these attacks as more and more members of the list are being infected. --Charlene ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Hair and Reenacting
If your meds keep your pupils open, you should be wearing sunglasses all the time, as going without could damage your eyes. Forget historical accuracy; you don't want to go blind because of fashion! Sharon C. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Sharon Phillips Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 5:29 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Hair and Reenacting Thank you to everyone who had offered ideas for head coverings and ideas for starting points for reasearched. I haven't done any costuming in the last five years or so and I'm struggling to remember what I had learnt before then. I guess I'm also stressing a little because I'm already self-concious about drawing attention to my face at events when I'm not wearing sunglasses. My medication paralyse my eye muscles and pupils open, and I usually I hide that behind Ray-Bans. I dyed my hair to add colour to my face. The henna colour in some lights is a metallic wine-red and in other lights the colour matches a piece of burnt sienna coating I have. I don't remember seeing that shade of red as a natural hair colour but I could be wrong. I do know of a couple of local wigmakers locally who do make human hair wigs. One of them will buy hair, which is what prompted this line of thought. I do expect made to order wigs to be expensive like any craft that takes many, many hours of hand work. Cost is one of the reasons I'm after opinions and ideas before making enquiries to them. I had not thought of using the hair for switches which sounds much more feasible. How is the best way to make them into pieces that won't fall apart? Sharon Phillips (I use Dragon Dictate to compose emails. Strange word substitutions may occur.) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Puts the burden where it belongs!
So much time spent making viruses and malware---for what purpose? Now, if those folks were to take up sewing instead... Sharon C. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Charlene Charette Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 1:41 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Puts the burden where it belongs! On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Lavolta Press f...@lavoltapress.com wrote: Um, you are aware that there could be accompanying text and the link could still contain a virus? All the junk my ISP's spamcatcher dumps into my graymail has accompanying text. This is a ridiculous discussion, as the only person it matters to whether you click on a link, is you. Thankfully, this moribund list seems to be moving on to some actual content. Clicking on malware links doesn't affect only that one user. Some of these links install malware on the clicker's machine and send the links to everyone in their contacts list, including all the mailing lists. Since these emails are from (or appear to be from) a trusted friend, more people click them. This is how botnets are created. Several lists I'm on are currently undergoing these attacks as more and more members of the list are being infected. --Charlene -- Will I ever reach a point in my life when I won't need to recite the whole alphabet in my head while alphabetizing? -- Aaron Karo's Ruminations.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Sharing links, was: Puts the burden where it belongs!
Hi all, I found this, which seems like sensible advice: When sharing links, it is proper netiquette to write one to three sentences about why you are sharing it. This gives your friends a heads up on whether they should read the article or not. This will help keep people from wasting their time on something that is not of interest to them. It can also possibly indicate that it's not malware -- at least until they start saying here is a costume article I thought you would like. I understand that there will be some links where an element of surprise is part of the fun. But we can still give a heads-up about the topic without it being a spoiler. -Carol ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Walking feet
I now have my Bernina 1008, and some of the many feet I splurged on. I bought both Bernina feet and generic feet to use with an adapter. I have spent decades doing most operations without special feet, but have decided to try some new feet and see if they change my life. I also bought an old Singer tucker that may or may not work with an adapter--I'll find out when I get it. My question is this: I hand baste all my seams before sewing them and therefore, have never needed a walking foot. Does anyone here get any better use of walking feet than basting? (The walking foot is one I did not buy.) If so, for what? I am going to give another try at another repair place at getting my 15-year-old Viking 400 repaired, for use as a backup machine. There is only one other point over the decades where I have had two machines at once (when I was in college), since it's always seemed excessive. But being on another sewing forum with members who have collected as many as 50 machines has altered my perspective. Some people even keep four or five of them set up assembly-line style to do different operations. The Viking does have its virtues, one being a solid metal body and another that it runs quieter than the Bernina, although the Bernina is not that bad. The Viking really was a workhorse that served me well for a long time. I have faced up to the fact that it runs a lot worse after its recent servicing than before (hard to admit after I replaced it), and it seems clear the repair place screwed up. Really, I'd hate to let it go. Actually, I also have a new-in-box Singer someone gave me a month or so ago. But I don't even count that. Singers these days are junk--I want to sell it or at least donate it for a tax writeoff. Fran Lavolta Press www.lavoltapress.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Walking feet
Fran- I had a walking foot for my Bernina, but I sold it. I found myself not really needing it, and not liking it when I did use it. Save yourself some money and don't buy one. You shouldn't need to baste the seam before sewing it with your new Bernina, UNLESS it's velvet. Pinning should be sufficient. You'll find the machine feeds beautifully. Kim ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Walking feet
I use mine for creepy-crawlies like velvet and sheers, and for leather. ~Aurora On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Kim Baird kba...@cableone.net wrote: Fran- I had a walking foot for my Bernina, but I sold it. I found myself not really needing it, and not liking it when I did use it. Save yourself some money and don't buy one. You shouldn't need to baste the seam before sewing it with your new Bernina, UNLESS it's velvet. Pinning should be sufficient. You'll find the machine feeds beautifully. Kim ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Walking feet
I bought mine to use for sewing my canvas pavilion. Worked like a dream. I have been told that one should always be used when sewing velvet. Aurora Celeste auroracele...@gmail.com 9/21/12 5:21 PM I use mine for creepy-crawlies like velvet and sheers, and for leather. ~Aurora On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Kim Baird kba...@cableone.net wrote: Fran- I had a walking foot for my Bernina, but I sold it. I found myself not really needing it, and not liking it when I did use it. Save yourself some money and don't buy one. You shouldn't need to baste the seam before sewing it with your new Bernina, UNLESS it's velvet. Pinning should be sufficient. You'll find the machine feeds beautifully. Kim ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication with its contents may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information. It is solely for the use of the intended recipient(s). Unauthorized interception, review, use or disclosure is prohibited and may violate applicable laws including the Electronic Communications Privacy Act. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the communication. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Walking feet
You mean the Bernina 1008 will actually sew over pins? I gave that up after I (immediately and very expensively) ruined the timing on the machine I bought right after the Sears Kenmore died. The Kenmore would sew over anything, so I assumed the newer machines would. Big mistake, in that case. It would be great to know they've designed the Bernina 1008 to sew over pins, or do you remove them as you go along? Thanks, Fran Lavolta Press Books on historic sewing www.lavoltapress.com On 9/21/2012 5:19 PM, Kim Baird wrote: Fran- I had a walking foot for my Bernina, but I sold it. I found myself not really needing it, and not liking it when I did use it. Save yourself some money and don't buy one. You shouldn't need to baste the seam before sewing it with your new Bernina, UNLESS it's velvet. Pinning should be sufficient. You'll find the machine feeds beautifully. Kim ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Walking feet
On Sep 21, 2012, at 6:55 PM, Lavolta Press wrote: My question is this: I hand baste all my seams before sewing them and therefore, have never needed a walking foot. Does anyone here get any better use of walking feet than basting? (The walking foot is one I did not buy.) If so, for what? I got a walking foot when I machine-quilted something. The batting changes the game entirely — even with a light spray adhesive to baste the layers together, the loft of the batting will still let the top bottom layers shift. If I was going to hand-baste the quilt first, I might as well hand- quilt it. With a walking foot I can go freestyle with the stitching. It depends on the level of accuracy desired — some people are ok with machine quilting on a historic garment that would have been done by hand. I assume there are 19th and 20th C garments that were originally machine quilted. -Carol ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Walking feet
I figured it might be useful for quilting. I find that basting is quite enough for garment layers of velvet, satin, etc., though. During the second half of the 19th century, home sewers could buy fabrics pre-quilted by machine. Fran Lavolta Press www.lavoltapress.com I got a walking foot when I machine-quilted something. The batting changes the game entirely — even with a light spray adhesive to baste the layers together, the loft of the batting will still let the top bottom layers shift. If I was going to hand-baste the quilt first, I might as well hand-quilt it. With a walking foot I can go freestyle with the stitching. It depends on the level of accuracy desired — some people are ok with machine quilting on a historic garment that would have been done by hand. I assume there are 19th and 20th C garments that were originally machine quilted. -Carol ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] pinning
Of course I remove them as I go along. Sewing over a pin is bad for the needle, can chip it if not break or bend it. I find it hard to believe that you need so many pins to hold a simple seam together. Sometimes I don't pin at all. Although curves and matching plaids are a different story. . . Slippery fabric is tricky, too. But regular cotton or wool or linen doesn't need much pinning. I had no trouble machine quilting with my Bernina and NO walking foot. I use a thinner batting, either Hobb's Thermore or a cotton, which is less slippery. I also like the Sulky KK 2000 temporary spray adhesive. Again, not on silk--it leaves a stain. Any other brand of spray adhesive I've tried has been way to messy and sticky, but KK 2000 goes away by itself, and doesn't gum up my machine. Kim -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Lavolta Press Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 7:33 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Walking feet You mean the Bernina 1008 will actually sew over pins? I gave that up after I (immediately and very expensively) ruined the timing on the machine I bought right after the Sears Kenmore died. The Kenmore would sew over anything, so I assumed the newer machines would. Big mistake, in that case. It would be great to know they've designed the Bernina 1008 to sew over pins, or do you remove them as you go along? Thanks, Fran Lavolta Press Books on historic sewing www.lavoltapress.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] pinning
The older machines will happily sew over pins and the newer ones will not. When my mother bought her Sears Kenmore in the early 1960s, she was very impressed by what was apparently the standard sales demo. In order to prove that the machine could sew over pins, the salesperson (well practiced, of course), sewed over a ruler, the spiel being that if the machine could pass over a ruler it could pass over anything. That was her first and only machine (and seldom used at that; I wish I had taken it when she died) so it was a new concept to her. But I had no problems sewing over pins with either a treadle or an early electric, let alone my own Kenmore which my parents bought for me some years after they bought hers. It was only when I started buying higher-end and more modern machines that I ran into problems. For about the last 20 years, I have pinned each seam, basted it, removed all the pins, sewn the seam, removed the basting (to avoid thread marks when pressing), and then pressed it. I went through two clothing design programs in college, one couture and one ready-to-wear. I was taught that pins should be placed a minimum of an inch apart and for curves and difficult fabrics, closer than that, usually about half an inch. I imagine I could just hold the fabric together instead--when I took an industrial sewing class I had to do exactly that. I also could remove pins as I sew. But I would prefer to either pin it all and then sew it all, or baste it all and then sew it all. I never use any kind of glue when sewing, either adhesives to take the place of basting, or Fray-check for seams. I am convinced that residue would be left on the fabric and/or the machine. Also, I like using traditional methods, though I do modify them to some extent at need. I also, BTW, never mark with anything but tailor's chalk or tailor's tacks and thread tracing. I can see Carol's point about using a walking foot for machine quilting. But otherwise, basting should continue to work for me. I realize that most people don't hand baste, and being able to sew over pins again would have been convenient, but I don't really mind basting. You can also use a slip-basting stitch for stripes and plaids which works better than pins for keeping them matched while you sew. At any rate, now I know that the Bernina 1008 will not sew over pins, and I will not damage it by experimenting with it. I still have painful memories of ruining an expensive new machine that way, which was way worse than having a broken needle. Bad design though, IMO. Fran Lavolta Press Books on historic sewing www.lavoltapress.com On 9/21/2012 6:24 PM, Kim Baird wrote: Of course I remove them as I go along. Sewing over a pin is bad for the needle, can chip it if not break or bend it. I find it hard to believe that you need so many pins to hold a simple seam together. Sometimes I don't pin at all. Although curves and matching plaids are a different story. . . ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Machine and hand finishes
I should add about the feet--I have been a traditionalist for the many decades now that I have been sewing, for modern as well as historic clothes. Of course treadles have attachments for ruffling and many other tasks, but I only used my treadle up to the age of 16 or so, and my father didn't buy any attachments with it, so I never got into the habit of using those. Then when I studied couture, I got into the habit of hand sewing a lot. I've always hand overcast all seams (that need that type of finish), hand hemmed all garments, and so forth. But lately I have been thinking that some machine finishes might be acceptable, though I have not really made up my mind about that yet. At least they will give me something new to play with. Otherwise, I am going batty doing piles of alterations (mostly skirt and sleeve hems) that I put away for several years till I finally faced up to them. I am thinking that maybe if it is a modern serged garment elsewhere, it won't kill the appearance to forgo all that handwork for some machine finishes and it would get the work done faster. It is really dull getting through the alterations and refraining from making anything new till I finish, but it needs to be done. At least, when it gets too boring I am having some fun altering Victorian and Edwardian lingerie into boho styles and dyeing them. There are lots of things to do with petticoat ruffles . . . I'm not blaming anyone else for using a serger, adhesives, marking pens, modern industrial techniques, or any other methods. It's just not the way I sew. Fran Lavolta Press Books on historic sewing www.lavoltapress.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] pinning
Some modern machines will sew over pins. Most of the time, I remove them as I sew, but there is one task which requires me to leave the pins in and just sew over them. I've dented a pin once or twice, but never had any issue with the machine itself nor have I broken any needles. I've done this with at least 3 recent model singers. Teena From: Lavolta Press f...@lavoltapress.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 11:22 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] pinning The older machines will happily sew over pins and the newer ones will not. When my mother bought her Sears Kenmore in the early 1960s, she was very impressed by what was apparently the standard sales demo. In order to prove that the machine could sew over pins, the salesperson (well practiced, of course), sewed over a ruler, the spiel being that if the machine could pass over a ruler it could pass over anything. That was her first and only machine (and seldom used at that; I wish I had taken it when she died) so it was a new concept to her. But I had no problems sewing over pins with either a treadle or an early electric, let alone my own Kenmore which my parents bought for me some years after they bought hers. It was only when I started buying higher-end and more modern machines that I ran into problems. For about the last 20 years, I have pinned each seam, basted it, removed all the pins, sewn the seam, removed the basting (to avoid thread marks when pressing), and then pressed it. I went through two clothing design programs in college, one couture and one ready-to-wear. I was taught that pins should be placed a minimum of an inch apart and for curves and difficult fabrics, closer than that, usually about half an inch. I imagine I could just hold the fabric together instead--when I took an industrial sewing class I had to do exactly that. I also could remove pins as I sew. But I would prefer to either pin it all and then sew it all, or baste it all and then sew it all. I never use any kind of glue when sewing, either adhesives to take the place of basting, or Fray-check for seams. I am convinced that residue would be left on the fabric and/or the machine. Also, I like using traditional methods, though I do modify them to some extent at need. I also, BTW, never mark with anything but tailor's chalk or tailor's tacks and thread tracing. I can see Carol's point about using a walking foot for machine quilting. But otherwise, basting should continue to work for me. I realize that most people don't hand baste, and being able to sew over pins again would have been convenient, but I don't really mind basting. You can also use a slip-basting stitch for stripes and plaids which works better than pins for keeping them matched while you sew. At any rate, now I know that the Bernina 1008 will not sew over pins, and I will not damage it by experimenting with it. I still have painful memories of ruining an expensive new machine that way, which was way worse than having a broken needle. Bad design though, IMO. Fran Lavolta Press Books on historic sewing http://www.lavoltapress.com/ On 9/21/2012 6:24 PM, Kim Baird wrote: Of course I remove them as I go along. Sewing over a pin is bad for the needle, can chip it if not break or bend it. I find it hard to believe that you need so many pins to hold a simple seam together. Sometimes I don't pin at all. Although curves and matching plaids are a different story. . . ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] pinning
You wouldn't have the Singer 2277 Tradition by any chance? That is the brand new White Elephant in my garage. Fran Lavolta Press www.lavoltapress.com On 9/21/2012 9:13 PM, Beteena Paradise wrote: Some modern machines will sew over pins. Most of the time, I remove them as I sew, but there is one task which requires me to leave the pins in and just sew over them. I've dented a pin once or twice, but never had any issue with the machine itself nor have I broken any needles. I've done this with at least 3 recent model singers. Teena ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
