Re: [h-cost] stains on stored linen?
A soak in Polident helps. Patty -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of annbw...@aol.com Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 5:59 AM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] stains on stored linen? I have had good luck soaking all night in Biz. Ann Wass -Original Message- From: Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Sun, Jun 16, 2013 1:29 am Subject: Re: [h-cost] stains on stored linen? For fruit stains, like that of the raspberry, I find spray-and wash the best thing. It actually fades the stain before it hits the washing machine. Berry stains will indeed turn a nasty shade of gray if washed in ordinary soap without pre-treatment. Don't know about your random stains. Might they have been in the cloth as produced? == Marjorie Wilser =:=:=:Three Toad Press:=:=:= http://3toad.blogspot.com/ Learn to laugh at yourself and you will never lack for amusement. --MW On Jun 15, 2013, at 8:27 PM, Patricia Dunham wrote: We're in the process of sorting, washing-musty-out, and re-packing the fabric stash and have discovered about 5 pieces of mostly-white, mostly-linen that has a FEW, random pink and/or blue-y/black-y spots. We've only really noticed this tonite. Doesn't seem to be occuring on the white cottons (I think). I'm planning to pre-treat with Clorox2, and then cold-launder with Clorox2. Have just had real good luck with that with a cotton bra that got a raspberry down it all day 8-) which stain started pinkish, and then turned sort of blackberry dark blue/black as I tried to wash it out. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] stains on stored linen?
An overnight soak in baby shampoo and OxyClean (and a lot of rinsing) cleans antique linen superbly and safely. Specifically, a dirty, stained handwoven tablecloth. I was actually shocked -- it was pristine. Dede ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Corded petticoat conundrum
Back at the Reed Homestead... the ladies and I are pulling out old petticoats that have not yet been cataloged. Nancy Wexford never got to this pile. We cleaned a corded petticoat last week. Date-wise, we're guessing maybe... 1840s -1860s? That's what I wrote down, anyway. We have pieces that date back to the 1820s, so... ? Originals by Kay claims they worn into the 1880s. I've read many different tutorials on how to make a corded tutorial. I followed Elizabeth Stewart Clark's instructions and made my own. However, I've never seen anything like this described anywhere: The fabric was pre-corded at the factory; the cords were actually woven into the fabric. It was woven so that the top was cord-free and could be sewn to a waistband, and the bottom had the cord in sections so that tucks could be inserted in the cordless sections to determine finished length. The fabric was obviously intended for this purpose. We're in North Central Mass., so it's conceivable the fabric was made in a Lowell mill. Or not. I really have no clue. Has anyone ever heard of pre-corded fabric for petticoats? Dede ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Corded petticoat conundrum
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Yes. I own an original petticoat made from manufactured corded fabric
and have information on several others. I also have patent information
on several designs of corded fabrics. My original has the cords in
groups, with the number of cords increasing from top to botton. While
a few women may have continued to wear corded petticoats after 1860,
my research indicates they fade from common use with the advent of the
steel crinoline. I'd be happy to discuss my research with you.
Carolann Schmitt
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Re: [h-cost] Corded petticoat conundrum
No, never heard of it, but I want some! Sharon C. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of WorkroomButtons.com Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 8:20 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] Corded petticoat conundrum Back at the Reed Homestead... the ladies and I are pulling out old petticoats that have not yet been cataloged. Nancy Wexford never got to this pile. We cleaned a corded petticoat last week. Date-wise, we're guessing maybe... 1840s -1860s? That's what I wrote down, anyway. We have pieces that date back to the 1820s, so... ? Originals by Kay claims they worn into the 1880s. I've read many different tutorials on how to make a corded tutorial. I followed Elizabeth Stewart Clark's instructions and made my own. However, I've never seen anything like this described anywhere: The fabric was pre-corded at the factory; the cords were actually woven into the fabric. It was woven so that the top was cord-free and could be sewn to a waistband, and the bottom had the cord in sections so that tucks could be inserted in the cordless sections to determine finished length. The fabric was obviously intended for this purpose. We're in North Central Mass., so it's conceivable the fabric was made in a Lowell mill. Or not. I really have no clue. Has anyone ever heard of pre-corded fabric for petticoats? Dede ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Corded petticoat conundrum
Curious minds want to know: Is the cording in the warp or in the weft?
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Yes. I own an original petticoat made from manufactured corded fabric and have
information on several others. I also have patent information on several
designs of corded fabrics. My original has the cords in groups, with the number
of cords increasing from top to botton. While a few women may have continued
to wear corded petticoats after 1860, my research indicates they fade from
common use with the advent of the steel crinoline. I'd be happy to discuss my
research with you.
Carolann Schmitt
cschm...@genteelarts.com [1]
www.genteelarts.com [2]
Ladies Gentlemen of the 1860s Conference, March 6-9, 2014
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Re: [h-cost] Corded petticoat conundrum
Curious minds want to know: Is the cording in the warp or in the weft? That is an excellent question. As I was writing the description, it occurred to me that I don't remember. I will pull it out next time I'm there! ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Corded petticoat conundrum
We discovered one of these in our collection several years ago. I learned that Saundra Ros Altman wrote an article on these, Stick-Out Petticoats. It was in MIMCC Magazine, 1994, Vol. xv, no. 2. She did a search of patents, among other things. Ann Wass -Original Message- From: WorkroomButtons.com westvillagedrap...@yahoo.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Mon, Jun 17, 2013 1:35 pm Subject: Re: [h-cost] Corded petticoat conundrum Curious minds want to know: Is the cording in the warp or in the weft? That is an excellent question. As I was writing the description, it occurred to me that I don't remember. I will pull it out next time I'm there! ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Corded petticoat conundrum
The original I own has the cording in the weft. I've examined other originals that had the cording either way. I'll check my spreadsheet his evening. - Sent from Carolann's iPad - On Jun 17, 2013, at 1:34 PM, WorkroomButtons.com westvillagedrap...@yahoo.com wrote: Curious minds want to know: Is the cording in the warp or in the weft? That is an excellent question. As I was writing the description, it occurred to me that I don't remember. I will pull it out next time I'm there! ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Astrida's Book
I just sent an email to a close friend--the one who took me to the UNH Exhibit last fall when I was up visiting her to performat the Haunted Overload attraction! The book ismarvelous, the little bit of I've been able to go through--I just got mine today too! Yours in costumign,L isaA On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 15:39:54 -0400 Terry twal...@us.net writes: I'm so excited to say that I just received Astrida Schaeffer's book Embellishments: Constructing Victorian Detail. I mean I JUST got it (5 minutes ago), so I've only had time to thumb through it, but it looks beautiful. Can't wait to read it! Terry Walker ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] where to buy lucet?
Where do people purchase their lucets (preferably online)? I'd like to buy a few, but am coming up stumped on where I've seen them for sale! Thanks :) Rebecca Schmitt aka Agnyss Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] where to buy lucet?
I got mine at Lacis http://www.lacis.com/ Kim -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Rebecca Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 7:20 PM To: 'Historical Costume' Subject: [h-cost] where to buy lucet? Where do people purchase their lucets (preferably online)? I'd like to buy a few, but am coming up stumped on where I've seen them for sale! Thanks :) Rebecca Schmitt aka Agnyss Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] where to buy lucet?
Boy, I sure don't see the kind I like... http://www.spanishpeacock.com/lucets.htm I like mine with straight shafts and a handledo you have a preference to the sort you like? Sg On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 5:19 PM, Rebecca lotsofteap...@charter.net wrote: Where do people purchase their lucets (preferably online)? I'd like to buy a few, but am coming up stumped on where I've seen them for sale! Thanks :) Rebecca Schmitt aka Agnyss Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- -Sg- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] where to buy lucet?
http://www.etsy.com/listing/151108688/handmade-lucet-cherry?ref=cat_gallery_1 If you spin, stalk that site for spindles - they're amazing. But the lucets are awesome too. Guenièvre On Monday, June 17, 2013, Rebecca wrote: Where do people purchase their lucets (preferably online)? I'd like to buy a few, but am coming up stumped on where I've seen them for sale! Thanks :) Rebecca Schmitt aka Agnyss Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com javascript:; http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] where to buy lucet?
On 06/17/2013 08:19 PM, Rebecca wrote: Where do people purchase their lucets (preferably online)? I'd like to buy a few, but am coming up stumped on where I've seen them for sale! Thanks :) Google is your friend on this one. Really. Here's a few of the places I've seen them. Which ones you pick will depend upon how big a lucet you want, whether and how much you care about size, shape, and materials, and price. Good luck! (P.S. You'll get most hits if you type lucet into Google, but lucette may work also.) On EBay: Pine Box Traders: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lucet-Basic-1-piece-Lucette-Snoddgaffel-String-Fork-Assorted-Hardwood-PBT-/390606966659?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item5af1fd4f83 Olde Tyme Antiques: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lovely-Handmade-Purple-Heart-Wooden-LUCET-for-Braiding-Cord-/251209389892?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3a7d3f1744 Daegrad: http://compare.ebay.com/like/161034866762?var=lvltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypesvar=sbar craftyls: http://www.ebay.com/itm/ANCIENT-LUCET-HAND-CRAFTED-WOODEN-CRAFT-TOOL-with-instructions-/321133112014?pt=UK_Crafts_Other_Crafts_EHhash=item4ac5066ace On Etsy.com: Brush Creek Wool Works (on vacation at the moment) http://www.etsy.com/listing/58758948/lucet-handmade?utm_source=googleutm_medium=product_listing_promotedutm_campaign=supplies_lowgclid=CLLzw5G67LcCFVKf4AodgwIAfA On the Internet generally: Halcyon Yarn (halcyonyarn.com) http://halcyonyarn.com/multi-craft/6842/wooden-lucet-with-handle?gclid=CMOA-qW67LcCFQmf4Aod3QoAfA Paradise Fibers: http://www.paradisefibers.com/wool-tree-mill-lucet.html?gclid=CKTPtMO67LcCFciY4Aodz1QAYw -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com (610) 805-9542 Every saint has a past and every sinner has a future. - Oscar Wilde ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] where to buy lucet?
On the ones I have, both been gives and bought, a good final polish with fine grade steel wool makes them smooth as glass. You want your loops to pull along smoothly. I don't recommend the cheap ones cut with a hack saw from thin plywood however. You may be putting a significant amount of tension on the prongs. Regina Sent from my iPad On Jun 17, 2013, at 6:33 PM, Catherine Olanich Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com wrote: On 06/17/2013 08:19 PM, Rebecca wrote: Where do people purchase their lucets (preferably online)? I'd like to buy a few, but am coming up stumped on where I've seen them for sale! Thanks :) Google is your friend on this one. Really. Here's a few of the places I've seen them. Which ones you pick will depend upon how big a ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Corded petticoat conundrum
I looked at my survey of six original corded petticoats. Four have the cords woven into the fabric; two have the cords sewn into the fabric. Of the four petticoats with woven cords: the cords are on the weft on three of them, on the warp on one of them. Details of the petticoat in my collection: Fabric - very finely woven cotton, 37.25 wide selvage to selvage Waist = 27.5 Length = 35 Circumference = 111.75 Three panels, selvage to selvage Seams: Plain, selvage to selvage Seam allowance = 1.5 mm Overhand seam, hand-sewn, 25 stitches/inch Opening: In-seam Fastening: Button and buttonhole; button torn off 134 tightly-twisted cotton cords, 1.5mm in diameter 24 at the bottom edge, woven side-by-side, folded in half for a hem; then 18 groups of 9 cords woven side-by-side, each group spaced .625 apart; then 38 single cords spaced .3875 apart. Distance from top cord to waist = 4.25 Regards, Carolann cschm...@genteelarts.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
