Re: [h-cost] Children's fashions

2013-04-03 Thread Kate Bunting
Maggie wrote:
It also strikes me that we are moving back to kids wearing miniature adult 
styles.

I was thinking the same thing myself recently. I'm old enough to remember young 
boys routinely wearing short trousers (i.e. knee-length suit trousers, as 
distinct from casual shorts).
Now that (a) most clothes are easily washable, and (b) adults are wearing 
casual styles more of the time, I don't think there's an obvious difference 
between adult and children's styles.

Kate Bunting
Librarian  17th century reenactor
Derby, UK


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Re: [h-cost] Children's fashions

2013-04-03 Thread annbwass
About 20 years ago, when I was back on a college campus regularly, it appeared 
to me that the parents were borrowing from their children again. The moms and 
dads who brought their kids for campus tours were wearing the baggy shorts, 
footwear, Tshirts, and headgear of their children.


But I see what you mean about kids' wearing grown up styles. We were in Spain 
just before First Communion time. They still sell traditional sailor suits for 
boys, but also man-style suits, except that they are decorated with braid and 
tassels--they looked like admirals, not common sailors!



Ann Wass



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Maggie wrote:
It also strikes me that we are moving back to kids wearing miniature adult 
styles.

I was thinking the same thing myself recently. I'm old enough to remember young 
boys routinely wearing short trousers (i.e. knee-length suit trousers, as 
distinct from casual shorts).
Now that (a) most clothes are easily washable, and (b) adults are wearing 
casual 
styles more of the time, I don't think there's an obvious difference between 
adult and children's styles.

Kate Bunting
Librarian  17th century reenactor
Derby, UK


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[h-cost] Children's fashions.

2013-03-31 Thread Maggie Koenig
Something I've been pondering. In what era/decade/year/location/something else 
do you consider there to be a development of a separate fashion for children. 
By children I mean potty trained age and over. 

In the early 19th century there seemed to be a separate fashion for boys but 
not girls with the so called skeleton suit.  But by the mid19th century they 
did a brief stint in pants and tunic then it was on to miniature adult styles. 
For girls I start seeing the separate styles by the 1840s and they were 
definitely there by the 1860s. However, I severely lack knowledge of earlier 
periods. Am I just not seeing the kids styles? 

It also strikes me that we are moving back to kids wearing miniature adult 
styles. 

Maggie Koenig

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Re: [h-cost] Children's fashions.

2013-03-31 Thread annbwass
Actually, girls' dresses developed in the last quarter of the late 18th century 
and then, it appears, their mothers copied THEM. The Lady's Magazine in 1789 
observed, All the sex now--from fifteen to fifty upwards (I should rather say 
downwards) appear in their white muslin frocks with broad sashes. Marie 
Antoinette's son appears to have been one of the first to appear in a 
distinctive little boy's suit.


The writings of Enlightenment philosophers, such as John Locke and (that great 
hypocrite) Jean Jacques Rousseau, may have influenced how people dressed their 
children--giving them distinctive styles rather than dressing them as miniature 
adults.


Ann Wass



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Something I've been pondering. In what era/decade/year/location/something else 
do you consider there to be a development of a separate fashion for children. 
By 
children I mean potty trained age and over. 

In the early 19th century there seemed to be a separate fashion for boys but 
not 
girls with the so called skeleton suit.  But by the mid19th century they did a 
brief stint in pants and tunic then it was on to miniature adult styles. For 
girls I start seeing the separate styles by the 1840s and they were definitely 
there by the 1860s. However, I severely lack knowledge of earlier periods. Am I 
just not seeing the kids styles? 

It also strikes me that we are moving back to kids wearing miniature adult 
styles. 

Maggie Koenig

Sent from my iPhone
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