Re: [h-cost] Has anyone tried these machines?
Greetings, Thank you for that useful advice. Unfortunately, it will probably be awhile to get into a local dealer (all of the local dealers are the same company and they keep lousy hours), so I figure I can gather as much information as I can ahead of time. Cheers Danielle Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 08:43:19 -0700 From: badhusw...@gmail.com To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Has anyone tried these machines? Hi, I work for a Babylock dealer. No one has so much as touched the Destiny yet. It's that new. The GM for my store will be going to the Babylock convention at the end of this month, and she'll get to try one out then. They won't be shipping any machines out until September. Until then, all we have to go on is the video that Babylock posted on their website. It's a beautiful top of the line machine, with a price to match. I think the Brother Dream Machine is the same type of deal, but I could be wrong since we aren't a Brother dealer. Your best bet is to talk to your local dealer. They may try to talk you into putting money down to reserve a machine. Nothing wrong with that, but it should be fully refundable if you decide against the purchase. Hope this helps, Katie On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 12:19 AM, Danielle Nunn-Weinberg gilshal...@outlook.com wrote: Greetings, I am starting to look around for a new sewing/embroidery machine and found both the: Babylock Destiny and Brother Dream Machine. I haven't had an opportunity to check them out in person yet, so I wish to be going in with as much information as possible. So if you have one or tried it out, please share your thoughts, please. Cheers Danielle ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Has anyone tried these machines?
Greetings, I am starting to look around for a new sewing/embroidery machine and found both the: Babylock Destiny and Brother Dream Machine. I haven't had an opportunity to check them out in person yet, so I wish to be going in with as much information as possible. So if you have one or tried it out, please share your thoughts, please. Cheers Danielle ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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I would go for the Destiny it is both the newer machine and the higher end machine. Babylock make the brother machine also. Debbie - Original Message - From: Danielle Nunn-Weinberg gilshal...@outlook.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 12:19:16 AM Subject: [h-cost] Has anyone tried these machines? Greetings, I am starting to look around for a new sewing/embroidery machine and found both the: Babylock Destiny and Brother Dream Machine. I haven't had an opportunity to check them out in person yet, so I wish to be going in with as much information as possible. So if you have one or tried it out, please share your thoughts, please. Cheers Danielle ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Has anyone tried these machines?
Hi, I work for a Babylock dealer. No one has so much as touched the Destiny yet. It's that new. The GM for my store will be going to the Babylock convention at the end of this month, and she'll get to try one out then. They won't be shipping any machines out until September. Until then, all we have to go on is the video that Babylock posted on their website. It's a beautiful top of the line machine, with a price to match. I think the Brother Dream Machine is the same type of deal, but I could be wrong since we aren't a Brother dealer. Your best bet is to talk to your local dealer. They may try to talk you into putting money down to reserve a machine. Nothing wrong with that, but it should be fully refundable if you decide against the purchase. Hope this helps, Katie On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 12:19 AM, Danielle Nunn-Weinberg gilshal...@outlook.com wrote: Greetings, I am starting to look around for a new sewing/embroidery machine and found both the: Babylock Destiny and Brother Dream Machine. I haven't had an opportunity to check them out in person yet, so I wish to be going in with as much information as possible. So if you have one or tried it out, please share your thoughts, please. Cheers Danielle ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Hi, I didn't get any good presents but I have, post-holiday, made some progress on the 1/12 scale 1849 dinner dress with the quilled trim. I got some really small (4/0, 5/0, 8/0 and 11/0) knitting needles before the holidays that I'm using as mandrels for the quilling. Yesterday I finished the berthe with three rows of quilling and today patterned out the skirt. Next week, on to the skirt, and cutting and pressing 108 of bias strips from the pink organza, sewing them into tubes, and ruching them for the skirt quilling. Then a dozen tiny silk roses... and then PICTURES! Lauren M. Walker lauren.wal...@comcast.net On Jan 5, 2013, at 12:16 AM, Pierre Sandy Pettinger wrote: We've seen no messages since December 18 - is everyone really that busy? Typical post-holiday question - What costume goodies did you get this year? I got Steampunk Fashion by Spurgeon Vaughan Ratcliffe. Also a bunch of cooking gadgets. Sandy International Costumers' Guild Archivist http://www.costume.org/gallery2/main.php Those Who Fail to Learn History Are Doomed to Repeat It; Those Who Fail To Learn History Correctly - Why They Are Simply Doomed. Achemdro'hm The Illusion of Historical Fact -- C. Y. 4971 Andromeda ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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OOO Pictures!!! Can't wait!!! Paula From: lauren.wal...@comcast.net Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 23:46:12 -0500 To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Is anyone there? Hi, I didn't get any good presents but I have, post-holiday, made some progress on the 1/12 scale 1849 dinner dress with the quilled trim. I got some really small (4/0, 5/0, 8/0 and 11/0) knitting needles before the holidays that I'm using as mandrels for the quilling. Yesterday I finished the berthe with three rows of quilling and today patterned out the skirt. Next week, on to the skirt, and cutting and pressing 108 of bias strips from the pink organza, sewing them into tubes, and ruching them for the skirt quilling. Then a dozen tiny silk roses... and then PICTURES! Lauren M. Walker lauren.wal...@comcast.net On Jan 5, 2013, at 12:16 AM, Pierre Sandy Pettinger wrote: We've seen no messages since December 18 - is everyone really that busy? Typical post-holiday question - What costume goodies did you get this year? I got Steampunk Fashion by Spurgeon Vaughan Ratcliffe. Also a bunch of cooking gadgets. Sandy International Costumers' Guild Archivist http://www.costume.org/gallery2/main.php Those Who Fail to Learn History Are Doomed to Repeat It; Those Who Fail To Learn History Correctly - Why They Are Simply Doomed. Achemdro'hm The Illusion of Historical Fact -- C. Y. 4971 Andromeda ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Message: 1 Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2013 23:16:27 -0600 From: Pierre Sandy Pettinger costu...@radiks.net To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Is anyone there? Message-ID: e1trm9d-0005vs...@elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed We've seen no messages since December 18 - is everyone really that busy? Typical post-holiday question - What costume goodies did you get this year? -- Alas, I haven't been doing a lot of sewing lately, although I have some lovely pumpkin coloured wool that is calling to me right now. I have been doing some crochet, and downloading far more crochet patterns than I will ever have time for. I got a copy of 17th Century Women's Dress Patterns by Susan North and Jenny Tiramani, put out by the VA. It has a little bit of cross-over with Janet Arnolds Patterns of Fashions series, but has a narrower time frame so it covers more garments, mostly from the beginning to the middle of the seventeenth century. It also has more detail including embroidery patterns and knitting graphs and so on. Claire ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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--- On Thu, 1/10/13, Claire Clarke angha...@adam.com.au wrote: From: Claire Clarke angha...@adam.com.au Subject: Re: [h-cost] Is anyone there? To: h-cost...@indra.com Date: Thursday, January 10, 2013, 10:20 AM Message: 1 Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2013 23:16:27 -0600 From: Pierre Sandy Pettinger costu...@radiks.net To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Is anyone there? Message-ID: e1trm9d-0005vs...@elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed We've seen no messages since December 18 - is everyone really that busy? Typical post-holiday question - What costume goodies did you get this year? -- I've lost much of my sewing mojo for quite a while now--been doing very little SCA the last couple of years, and missed Pennsic the last two. But we're planning to go this year, so the sewing is going to have to get going again! I've been knitting, weaving on a rigid heddle loom, and trying to gird up my loins to learn how to warp my table loom. In February, I'll be acquiring a four-shaft floor loom, and I have ambitious dreams of garb sewn from hand-woven fabric. Dianne ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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I made a 14th c. hood for a friend, with these nifty cast buttons (made by someone else and painted by me) and there will be photos eventually, but I didn't *get* any costume goodies. Then again, we didn't really exchange gifts this year anyway. I did finally find fabric for the lining for my winter coat (why yes, this is the second year of winter sans coat so far, why do you ask?) and it was ALREADY IN MY STASH So that was kind of like a present. :-) Jen We've seen no messages since December 18 - is everyone really that busy? Typical post-holiday question - What costume goodies did you get this year? I got Steampunk Fashion by Spurgeon Vaughan Ratcliffe. Also a bunch of cooking gadgets. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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well, h-cost. I got v.8 of the Kalamazoo papers for my birthday back on Dec 4. I got (for Himself) a couple more steampunk patterns for my Mad Scientist wanna'be, 8-). Myself, I mostly got children's illustrator books, and a few cookery bookeries, but quite satisfied overall. well, Himself is researching steampunk era undergarments for me as medical adventures a few years ago left me in need of VERY baggy unders; that may turn into something sewing-related. oh yeah, we went into one of the fabric storage cupboards to review what we already have, re his new patterns, and almost killed ourselves on the musties. literally. he's still not sleeping well (too cloggy from moldy-spore-y yutch); I'm still laundering, 2 washes, both with hunters scent-killer additive! seems to be working so far, but I'm mostly only through the 100 % cotton-for-home-made patterns stash. it seems that pieces that still have original sizing in them are mostly OK. and, SO FAR, the woolens seem to be mostly OK... can hardly wait to get this cupboard re-built with improved ventilation; to unpack the OTHER cupboard! chimene On Jan 4, 2013, at 9:16 PM, Pierre Sandy Pettinger wrote: We've seen no messages since December 18 - is everyone really that busy? not really, it was quiet, but I have a couple of dozen posts for the intervening period... Typical post-holiday question - What costume goodies did you get this year? I got Steampunk Fashion by Spurgeon Vaughan Ratcliffe. what do you think of it? my steampunker has VERY decided ideas about what works and what doesn't, and has the sewing background to back up his preferences. ... ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Nah, it all ended after the Mayan calender. Didn't you notice? -C. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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I worked through the whole Christmas season--5 shifts in row at Christmas, as well as NY Day. My son gave me a fabulous book on 19th C. Photography, and I got other beady and fabric presents that are delightful. From daughter and grandson (now 2 1/2 years) a customized calendar with photos. My rpesent to myself was back in early November--an 1887 bustle dress, with beaded, embroidered appliques, and the actual photo of the woman wearing the dress. Im giving it a party on Feb. 16th here atmy home, but don't know how to post the invitation for eveyone! My best present is that I am now part-time at work, 2 shifts a week, and hoping to make a dent in the home front, and work on the cabin. I see LOTS more quilting and beading in my future. Right now, getting ready for work today, and this week, packing for Arisia. Yours in costuming,Lisa A On Fri, 04 Jan 2013 23:16:27 -0600 Pierre Sandy Pettinger costu...@radiks.net writes: We've seen no messages since December 18 - is everyone really that busy? Typical post-holiday question - What costume goodies did you get this year? I got Steampunk Fashion by Spurgeon Vaughan Ratcliffe. Also a bunch of cooking gadgets. Sandy ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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I just found out about this: http://thedreamstress.com/the-historical-sew-fortnightly/ from a friend's post on Facebook. I'm going to try it--a fortnightly sewing challenge. So far, it is spurring me on to actually make some long-contemplated things, use stuff in my stash, and try a couple of new things, too. We'll see if I make it through the year, though. Ann Wass -Original Message- From: Pierre Sandy Pettinger costu...@radiks.net To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Sun, Jan 6, 2013 7:48 pm Subject: [h-cost] Is anyone there? We've seen no messages since December 18 - is everyone really that busy? Typical post-holiday question - What costume goodies did you get this year? I got Steampunk Fashion by Spurgeon Vaughan Ratcliffe. Also a bunch of cooking gadgets. Sandy International Costumers' Guild Archivist http://www.costume.org/gallery2/main.php Those Who Fail to Learn History Are Doomed to Repeat It; Those Who Fail To Learn History Correctly - Why They Are Simply Doomed. Achemdro'hm The Illusion of Historical Fact -- C. Y. 4971 Andromeda ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Great looking blog, thanks! == Marjorie Wilser =:=:=:Three Toad Press:=:=:= http://3toad.blogspot.com/ Learn to laugh at yourself and you will never lack for amusement. --MW On Jan 7, 2013, at 12:28 PM, annbw...@aol.com wrote: I just found out about this: http://thedreamstress.com/the-historical-sew-fortnightly/ from a friend's post on Facebook. I'm going to try it--a fortnightly sewing challenge. So far, it is spurring me on to actually make some long-contemplated things, use stuff in my stash, and try a couple of new things, too. We'll see if I make it through the year, though. Ann Wass -Original Message- From: Pierre Sandy Pettinger costu...@radiks.net To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Sun, Jan 6, 2013 7:48 pm Subject: [h-cost] Is anyone there? We've seen no messages since December 18 - is everyone really that busy? Typical post-holiday question - What costume goodies did you get this year? I got Steampunk Fashion by Spurgeon Vaughan Ratcliffe. Also a bunch of cooking gadgets. Sandy International Costumers' Guild Archivist http://www.costume.org/gallery2/main.php Those Who Fail to Learn History Are Doomed to Repeat It; Those Who Fail To Learn History Correctly - Why They Are Simply Doomed. Achemdro'hm The Illusion of Historical Fact -- C. Y. 4971 Andromeda ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Is anyone there?
We've seen no messages since December 18 - is everyone really that busy? Typical post-holiday question - What costume goodies did you get this year? I got Steampunk Fashion by Spurgeon Vaughan Ratcliffe. Also a bunch of cooking gadgets. Sandy International Costumers' Guild Archivist http://www.costume.org/gallery2/main.php Those Who Fail to Learn History Are Doomed to Repeat It; Those Who Fail To Learn History Correctly - Why They Are Simply Doomed. Achemdro'hm The Illusion of Historical Fact -- C. Y. 4971 Andromeda ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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I got a new hoop for my Creative Vision machine. It' an air hoop. I've been photographing costumes the last few days. When I get done I am going to try the new hoop on velvet. Happy New Year everybody. Paula Sent from my iPad On Jan 6, 2013, at 4:48 PM, Pierre Sandy Pettinger costu...@radiks.net wrote: We've seen no messages since December 18 - is everyone really that busy? Typical post-holiday question - What costume goodies did you get this year? I got Steampunk Fashion by Spurgeon Vaughan Ratcliffe. Also a bunch of cooking gadgets. Sandy International Costumers' Guild Archivist http://www.costume.org/gallery2/main.php Those Who Fail to Learn History Are Doomed to Repeat It; Those Who Fail To Learn History Correctly - Why They Are Simply Doomed. Achemdro'hm The Illusion of Historical Fact -- C. Y. 4971 Andromeda ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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I got a booklet called Medieval Embroidery that discusses stitches and designs of early medieval embroidery finds, such as Queen Bathilde's shirt. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com (610) 805-9542 Remember that time is money. --Benjamin Franklin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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At 05:01 PM 1/6/2013, you wrote: I got a booklet called Medieval Embroidery that discusses stitches and designs of early medieval embroidery finds, such as Queen Bathilde's shirt. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com (610) 805-9542 Yes, I'm receiving h-costume. It's just really quiet right now. Where did you get your booklet? It sounds very interesting. Joan Jurancich joa...@surewest.net ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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On 01/06/2013 08:20 PM, Joan Jurancich wrote: At 05:01 PM 1/6/2013, you wrote: I got a booklet called Medieval Embroidery that discusses stitches and designs of early medieval embroidery finds, such as Queen Bathilde's shirt. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com (610) 805-9542 Yes, I'm receiving h-costume. It's just really quiet right now. Where did you get your booklet? It sounds very interesting. A friend purchased it for me--it's written by Mary Jenkins, who is Baroness Ealasaid nic Suibhne in the SCA. Griffin Dyeworks sells it; you can order it on this page: http://www.griffindyeworks.com/store/index.php?main_page=indexcPath=18zenid=vubsksgm0iesfsj568asecqr36 -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com (610) 805-9542 Remember that time is money. --Benjamin Franklin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Alas. Got zero, unless you count a gift certificate at a quilting store. Not bad-- but I went, and found fabric for everybody but me :) So the gift part will wait til I find something for _me_. == Marjorie Wilser =:=:=:Three Toad Press:=:=:= http://3toad.blogspot.com/ Learn to laugh at yourself and you will never lack for amusement. --MW On Jan 4, 2013, at 9:16 PM, Pierre Sandy Pettinger wrote: We've seen no messages since December 18 - is everyone really that busy? Typical post-holiday question - What costume goodies did you get this year? I got Steampunk Fashion by Spurgeon Vaughan Ratcliffe. Also a bunch of cooking gadgets. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Has anyone here beaded garments with real stones
HI Fran, You've entered the fun and exciting world of gems and jewellery (I'm a Canadian so we spell it that way too ;-)). Tig here is right but then we also can get into discussions of different terminology used - for example, semi-precious can be a bit of a hot button with a lot of people, actually. But, either way, if you are going to try sewing with your citrine drops (which sound quite lovely), you need to use a sturdy man-made thread or something like Beadalon which has a metal fibre core, which any rough edges cannot wear through. I have never tried wire-wrapping personally, or wire-based jewellery but I know that many bead/craft shops do offer classes in the basics or you can pick up a book. Either way, have fun! Also, I wouldn't write of soldered jewellery yet. It is easier than you think and a lot of fun. It also isn't as hazardous as you think either because we don't use lead solder you find at the hardware store, since you are using specific jeweller's solders. You can probably find basic classes in that as well. I suggest you try one before you write it off. :-) Anyway, these are just my opinions and suggestions as jeweller and a gemmologist, either way good luck and enjoy. Cheers, Danielle, FGA, FCGmA At 10:15 PM 10/3/2011, you wrote: Claudine wrote - I have not done what you're describing, but I just checked with a friend who is a jewelry maker. She says the stones would survive dry cleaning, but the color may change. She said she wouldn't risk it. Claudine's jeweller friend has the right of it. As a gemmologist, jewellery valuer (yes that's how we spell these words here in Australia!) and jeweller, I can only back her up all the way. It has been suggested by someone else that 'dye' may run and ruin the garmet. This isn't true I'm afraid. Citrine wouldn't be dyed. However much citrine available today is actually amethyst that has been heat treated. They are both quartz and the colour can be easily altered through heat treatment. However that heat is pretty high so it comes down to what heat the cleaning process involves. Some quartz (eg green quartz) is largely dyed but that is through using a high pressure/heat process and it shouldn't leak out (unless the chemicals have some effect). I suspect Claudine's friend is mostly worried about what chemicals the dry cleaner may use, as they may also change the colour and surface texture. There is a very good chance that strong chemicals, even if safe to textiles, may alter the surface of the citrine. Best not to risk it. Someone else has said 'they are stones after all'. Sorry to be blunt but stones are not stones. This is like saying all oils are the same, or all fabrics. Would you cook with engine oil or use hessian where silk is preferred? Gemmology takes time to learn and the more you study the more you realise how different all gemstones and gem materials (a separate category including pearls, amber and other non-mineral substances) are from each other. There has been an ongoing discussion about the terminology of 'sacques'. I could launch into one here about 'stones', 'rocks', 'gems' etc but I suspect you'd all get bored very quickly!!! :) Eg Lapis Lazuli is a 'rock' not a 'gemstone'. 'Garnet' is a 'gemstone' - semiprecious and comes in every colour, not only red (of which there are 3 distinct chemical groups and 'reds') See what I mean! LoL. Another person suggested that they be applied to something like a collar or cuffs, and that is possibly the BEST bit of advice so far! Why not make it an easily removable part of the outfit such as tie on sleeves? Handwashing won't affect the citrine either. Cheers, ~ Tig (OL) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Actually, I was talking about sewing on beads, onto a fase of thick wool felt backed with interfacing. I don't do much jewelry making with wires, although I have in the past. I am more interested in sewing. But again, it is by hand and is a bit time consuming, if making a piece that is really large. I frequently make large bead-embroidered collars, which are actually morel ike beaded pictures, with cabochons and seed beads and bugle beads in various configurations; then I add a 3D component by over-beading on top of that. I get some interesting effects, and have worked w ith many different color schemes and found objects, which it from getting dull. I generally back my large pieces with some heavy taffeta or ultrasuede, and the small pieces, such as brooches, with leather. Yours in costumign, Lisa A On Mon, 03 Oct 2011 19:31:20 -0700 Lavolta Press f...@lavoltapress.com writes: Instead of trying to sew them directly on to hte dress, why not make a really over-the-top beaded collar with them? I am tempted to take up jewelry making, since I am fascinated by the colors of stones. I have what is probably an illusion that all I need is wire, pretty but low-grade semiprecious gems, and skill with pliers. I have a lot of design ideas. However, I have so much to do thinking of taking on another hobby feels rather exhausting. How easy is it to do the make the kind of jewelry that requires wire but not, as far as I can tell, soldering? I don't really have a workspace for soldering. Seems kind of toxic for the kitchen table. Fran Lavolta Press Books on making historic clothing www.lavoltapress.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Has anyone here beaded garments with real stones
I've done pearls and garnets. It was a renfaire costume (King) that saw a lot of use. We didn't dry clean though, we used Frebreeze on the inside, and occasional gentle water rinse. I think we did end up of using Dryel once. Everything held up just fine but then garnets are a dark color and I don't believe change very much. Some stones are heat treated to enchance color so you could have a problem there. If possible, can you test a couple? And I strongly agree with the previous advice for sewing these things on :). I never liked the nylon threads, had trouble with it knotting securely, so I used quilting thread and a good beeswas, then at least one overhand knot every 2-3 beads. It's been over 20 years on the original costume and never lost a stone. Please let us know how the citrine's work out, might need to use them sometime :). Catherine ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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I have not done what you're describing, but I just checked with a friend who is a jewelry maker. She says the stones would survive dry cleaning, but the color may change. She said she wouldn't risk it. I've sewn beads (glass pearls) onto fabric with a standard beading needle. Claudine From: Lavolta Press f...@lavoltapress.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Monday, October 3, 2011 3:13 PM Subject: [h-cost] Has anyone here beaded garments with real stones I just received in a mail (from India) a large multiple strand of little citrines, pretty but almost certainly not of the highest gem quality. If nothing else the stringing is awful and I hate the clasp, so they'd need to be restrung. But, they are essentially beads, a teardrop shape with a hole pierced through across the narrow end. So I might be able to sew them to cloth assuming I can get a narrow enough needle. Problem: I am sure they will wash, being stones, but I am not sure they will dry clean. And I think they'd work best attached to a medium weight to heavy, dry-cleanable, rather fancy fabric. Has anyone tried using real stones for beading and dry cleaning them? Or should I just have them restrung into a better quality of necklace? Thanks for any info. Fran Lavolta Press Books of historic clothing patterns www.lavoltapress.com www.facebook.com/LavoltaPress ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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I would think they would dry clean just fine. They are a rock, after all. You're not supposed to dry clean pearls, because the chemicals damage the nacre. Sharon C. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Lavolta Press Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 3:13 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] Has anyone here beaded garments with real stones I just received in a mail (from India) a large multiple strand of little citrines, pretty but almost certainly not of the highest gem quality. If nothing else the stringing is awful and I hate the clasp, so they'd need to be restrung. But, they are essentially beads, a teardrop shape with a hole pierced through across the narrow end. So I might be able to sew them to cloth assuming I can get a narrow enough needle. Problem: I am sure they will wash, being stones, but I am not sure they will dry clean. And I think they'd work best attached to a medium weight to heavy, dry-cleanable, rather fancy fabric. Has anyone tried using real stones for beading and dry cleaning them? Or should I just have them restrung into a better quality of necklace? Thanks for any info. Fran Lavolta Press Books of historic clothing patterns www.lavoltapress.com www.facebook.com/LavoltaPress ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Has anyone here beaded garments with real stones
I just received in a mail (from India) a large multiple strand of little citrines, pretty but almost certainly not of the highest gem quality. If nothing else the stringing is awful and I hate the clasp, so they'd need to be restrung. But, they are essentially beads, a teardrop shape with a hole pierced through across the narrow end. So I might be able to sew them to cloth assuming I can get a narrow enough needle. Problem: I am sure they will wash, being stones, but I am not sure they will dry clean. And I think they'd work best attached to a medium weight to heavy, dry-cleanable, rather fancy fabric. Has anyone tried using real stones for beading and dry cleaning them? Or should I just have them restrung into a better quality of necklace? Thanks for any info. Fran Lavolta Press Books of historic clothing patterns www.lavoltapress.com www.facebook.com/LavoltaPress ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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I have sewn Indian garnets and (horrors!) thousands of 2nd grade rice pearls onto a forepart. The forepart was dry cleaned several times over a few years of wear and I had no problems with either; however, I used to have a very special dryclean company that has since gone the way of all good, family companies. Both the people at Fire Mountain Beads and RIngs and Things suggest that testing be done to any beads or stones before sewing to garments because the dye may wash out and ruin your garment. Perhaps you can sew one of the stones to the inside hem of something you're about to dry clean and see if the color is stable. If you do sew them onto something, I suggest you make a knot between every 3-4 beads, so that if the stone shreds the thread, you only lose a few beads. LynnD On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 4:03 PM, Cin cinbar...@gmail.com wrote: It depends on the stones. Diamonds rubies are very hard to fracture. Opals, pearls emeralds very easy. I accidently laundered my tanzanite ring when I left it in the pocket of a pair of jeans. It did color change slightly. Worse, the setting got scratched. Check the Moh's hardness scale for an idea, knowing whether your rocks are natural, synthetic or synthesized stones will also help. FWIW, Some rocks are still a bit rough thru the hole might cut the thread that sews them onto the gown. In any case, I wouldnt launder or dryclean the dress. I have a vintage 50s dress with clear quartz in individual settings that are sewn on. Still dont have any idea how to clean that dress. Do let me know when you're rich enough to sew diamonds onto your dresses. I'm going to be your very best friend. --cin Cynthia Barnes cinbar...@gmail.com On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 3:42 PM, cw15147-hcos...@yahoo.com cw15147-hcos...@yahoo.com wrote: I have not done what you're describing, but I just checked with a friend who is a jewelry maker. She says the stones would survive dry cleaning, but the color may change. She said she wouldn't risk it. I've sewn beads (glass pearls) onto fabric with a standard beading needle. Claudine ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Has anyone here beaded garments with real stones
It depends on the stones. Diamonds rubies are very hard to fracture. Opals, pearls emeralds very easy. I accidently laundered my tanzanite ring when I left it in the pocket of a pair of jeans. It did color change slightly. Worse, the setting got scratched. Check the Moh's hardness scale for an idea, knowing whether your rocks are natural, synthetic or synthesized stones will also help. FWIW, Some rocks are still a bit rough thru the hole might cut the thread that sews them onto the gown. In any case, I wouldnt launder or dryclean the dress. I have a vintage 50s dress with clear quartz in individual settings that are sewn on. Still dont have any idea how to clean that dress. Do let me know when you're rich enough to sew diamonds onto your dresses. I'm going to be your very best friend. --cin Cynthia Barnes cinbar...@gmail.com On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 3:42 PM, cw15147-hcos...@yahoo.com cw15147-hcos...@yahoo.com wrote: I have not done what you're describing, but I just checked with a friend who is a jewelry maker. She says the stones would survive dry cleaning, but the color may change. She said she wouldn't risk it. I've sewn beads (glass pearls) onto fabric with a standard beading needle. Claudine ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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I have used real stones and know of several others that have as well. Have not had any problems with them going through the dry cleaners as long as you have a good dry cleaner! Traci On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Sharon Collier sha...@collierfam.comwrote: I would think they would dry clean just fine. They are a rock, after all. You're not supposed to dry clean pearls, because the chemicals damage the nacre. Sharon C. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Lavolta Press Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 3:13 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] Has anyone here beaded garments with real stones I just received in a mail (from India) a large multiple strand of little citrines, pretty but almost certainly not of the highest gem quality. If nothing else the stringing is awful and I hate the clasp, so they'd need to be restrung. But, they are essentially beads, a teardrop shape with a hole pierced through across the narrow end. So I might be able to sew them to cloth assuming I can get a narrow enough needle. Problem: I am sure they will wash, being stones, but I am not sure they will dry clean. And I think they'd work best attached to a medium weight to heavy, dry-cleanable, rather fancy fabric. Has anyone tried using real stones for beading and dry cleaning them? Or should I just have them restrung into a better quality of necklace? Thanks for any info. Fran Lavolta Press Books of historic clothing patterns www.lavoltapress.com www.facebook.com/LavoltaPress ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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As some one who does a great deal of beadwork, several things come to mind. First, use the correct thread, not regular sewing thread. Beading thread comes in different thicknesses. Second, if there is an area of the fabric to which you are going to multiple stones, some sort of interfacing is advisable under the fabric. When I do large beaded areas, I use fairly heavy interfacing. A regular beading needle should work fine; there is also a very long, narrow awl-like tool with that is a diamond file for enlarging holes in beads and stones that works pretty well. My cleaning experiences have not been good, so I never plan on having to dry-clean those garments. I spot-clean if necessary. Instead of trying to sew them directly on to hte dress, why not make a really over-the-top beaded collar with them? Yours in cosutming,Lisa A On Mon, 03 Oct 2011 15:13:09 -0700 Lavolta Press f...@lavoltapress.com writes: I just received in a mail (from India) a large multiple strand of little citrines, pretty but almost certainly not of the highest gem quality. If nothing else the stringing is awful and I hate the clasp, so they'd need to be restrung. But, they are essentially beads, a teardrop shape with a hole pierced through across the narrow end. So I might be able to sew them to cloth assuming I can get a narrow enough needle. Problem: I am sure they will wash, being stones, but I am not sure they will dry clean. And I think they'd work best attached to a medium weight to heavy, dry-cleanable, rather fancy fabric. Has anyone tried using real stones for beading and dry cleaning them? Or should I just have them restrung into a better quality of necklace? Thanks for any info. Fran Lavolta Press Books of historic clothing patterns www.lavoltapress.com www.facebook.com/LavoltaPress ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Many gem stones are dyed or treated to enhance their color. I would test both cleaning methods on a few of these stones before sewing them to anything permanently. They might come out clear at the other end. Denise ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Instead of trying to sew them directly on to hte dress, why not make a really over-the-top beaded collar with them? I am tempted to take up jewelry making, since I am fascinated by the colors of stones. I have what is probably an illusion that all I need is wire, pretty but low-grade semiprecious gems, and skill with pliers. I have a lot of design ideas. However, I have so much to do thinking of taking on another hobby feels rather exhausting. How easy is it to do the make the kind of jewelry that requires wire but not, as far as I can tell, soldering? I don't really have a workspace for soldering. Seems kind of toxic for the kitchen table. Fran Lavolta Press Books on making historic clothing www.lavoltapress.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Claudine wrote - I have not done what you're describing, but I just checked with a friend who is a jewelry maker. She says the stones would survive dry cleaning, but the color may change. She said she wouldn't risk it. Claudine's jeweller friend has the right of it. As a gemmologist, jewellery valuer (yes that's how we spell these words here in Australia!) and jeweller, I can only back her up all the way. It has been suggested by someone else that 'dye' may run and ruin the garmet. This isn't true I'm afraid. Citrine wouldn't be dyed. However much citrine available today is actually amethyst that has been heat treated. They are both quartz and the colour can be easily altered through heat treatment. However that heat is pretty high so it comes down to what heat the cleaning process involves. Some quartz (eg green quartz) is largely dyed but that is through using a high pressure/heat process and it shouldn't leak out (unless the chemicals have some effect). I suspect Claudine's friend is mostly worried about what chemicals the dry cleaner may use, as they may also change the colour and surface texture. There is a very good chance that strong chemicals, even if safe to textiles, may alter the surface of the citrine. Best not to risk it. Someone else has said 'they are stones after all'. Sorry to be blunt but stones are not stones. This is like saying all oils are the same, or all fabrics. Would you cook with engine oil or use hessian where silk is preferred? Gemmology takes time to learn and the more you study the more you realise how different all gemstones and gem materials (a separate category including pearls, amber and other non-mineral substances) are from each other. There has been an ongoing discussion about the terminology of 'sacques'. I could launch into one here about 'stones', 'rocks', 'gems' etc but I suspect you'd all get bored very quickly!!! :) Eg Lapis Lazuli is a 'rock' not a 'gemstone'. 'Garnet' is a 'gemstone' - semiprecious and comes in every colour, not only red (of which there are 3 distinct chemical groups and 'reds') See what I mean! LoL. Another person suggested that they be applied to something like a collar or cuffs, and that is possibly the BEST bit of advice so far! Why not make it an easily removable part of the outfit such as tie on sleeves? Handwashing won't affect the citrine either. Cheers, ~ Tig (OL) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Cin, quartz is very hard. Try a good dry cleaner. Sharon C. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Cin Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 4:03 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Has anyone here beaded garments with real stones It depends on the stones. Diamonds rubies are very hard to fracture. Opals, pearls emeralds very easy. I accidently laundered my tanzanite ring when I left it in the pocket of a pair of jeans. It did color change slightly. Worse, the setting got scratched. Check the Moh's hardness scale for an idea, knowing whether your rocks are natural, synthetic or synthesized stones will also help. FWIW, Some rocks are still a bit rough thru the hole might cut the thread that sews them onto the gown. In any case, I wouldnt launder or dryclean the dress. I have a vintage 50s dress with clear quartz in individual settings that are sewn on. Still dont have any idea how to clean that dress. Do let me know when you're rich enough to sew diamonds onto your dresses. I'm going to be your very best friend. --cin Cynthia Barnes cinbar...@gmail.com On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 3:42 PM, cw15147-hcos...@yahoo.com cw15147-hcos...@yahoo.com wrote: I have not done what you're describing, but I just checked with a friend who is a jewelry maker. She says the stones would survive dry cleaning, but the color may change. She said she wouldn't risk it. I've sewn beads (glass pearls) onto fabric with a standard beading needle. Claudine ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Has anyone here beaded garments with real stones
My mom does jewelry making, using jump rings, push-settings, chain, etc. No soldering. If she wants to attach a piece of fused glass to a pendant, or earring blanks, she uses epoxy. Sharon C. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Lavolta Press Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 7:31 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Has anyone here beaded garments with real stones Instead of trying to sew them directly on to hte dress, why not make a really over-the-top beaded collar with them? I am tempted to take up jewelry making, since I am fascinated by the colors of stones. I have what is probably an illusion that all I need is wire, pretty but low-grade semiprecious gems, and skill with pliers. I have a lot of design ideas. However, I have so much to do thinking of taking on another hobby feels rather exhausting. How easy is it to do the make the kind of jewelry that requires wire but not, as far as I can tell, soldering? I don't really have a workspace for soldering. Seems kind of toxic for the kitchen table. Fran Lavolta Press Books on making historic clothing www.lavoltapress.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Has anyone tried any of these on fabric?
I found a cute little hand cranked machine that does the pinking. I have no idea how old it is but it does the job just fine. Anne -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Marjorie Wilser Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 4:02 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Has anyone tried any of these on fabric? Alas, I have not seen any Fiskars/rotary blades that successfully duplicate 18th or 19th C pinking designs. There are approximations, but none exact that I have seen. I've been looking. . . for 20 years! == Marjorie Wilser =:=:=:Three Toad Press:=:=:= Learn to laugh at yourself and you will never lack for amusement. --MW http://3toad.blogspot.com/ On Feb 4, 2011, at 10:05 AM, Land of Oz wrote (in part): The rotary cutters now have blades with designs. I'd think that would be a lot more likely to work on fabric. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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I have some time ago and No for cutting fabric.? However I do like the scalloped edge pinking?Fiscars made for fabric...especially nice for 18th C. edges. Kathleen, who is finishing Maud's gown..without such shears -Original Message- From: Lavolta Press f...@lavoltapress.com Sent 2/3/2011 9:25:56 PM To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Has anyone tried any of these on fabric?http://www.alvinco.com/shopping/family_sale_0_familyid_12030_cat_978_item_1293027097http://www.alvinco.com/shopping/family_sale_0_familyid_12030_cat_978_item_1293007097 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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The rotary cutters now have blades with designs. I'd think that would be a lot more likely to work on fabric. Denise B ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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On 2/4/2011 6:14 AM, R Lloyd Mitchell wrote: I have some time ago and No for cutting fabric.? However I do like the scalloped edge pinking?Fiscars made for fabric...especially nice for 18th C. edges. Kathleen, who is finishing Maud's gown..without such shears That's what I kind of figured, but I'm a sucker for neat tools. I do have some rotary blades with designs. I was really taken with all the plastic templates on the website, where, even in these days of draw and CAD programs, you can get ones with umpteen sizes of circles, ellipses, and other geometric shapes, as well as templates for architectural design, and other such things. Should anyone want a template for hand-drawing things like several sizes and styles of bathroom sinks on their fabric, this site has it. Fran Lavolta Press Books on making historic clothing Two new books of 1880s patterns! www.lavoltapress.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Alas, I have not seen any Fiskars/rotary blades that successfully duplicate 18th or 19th C pinking designs. There are approximations, but none exact that I have seen. I've been looking. . . for 20 years! == Marjorie Wilser =:=:=:Three Toad Press:=:=:= Learn to laugh at yourself and you will never lack for amusement. --MW http://3toad.blogspot.com/ On Feb 4, 2011, at 10:05 AM, Land of Oz wrote (in part): The rotary cutters now have blades with designs. I'd think that would be a lot more likely to work on fabric. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Has anyone tried any of these on fabric?
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Hard to be sure without a photo of the actual scissors, but I believe I have a pair of these. Terrible. Barely cuts paper. Incredibly cheaply made. Claudine - Original Message From: Lavolta Press f...@lavoltapress.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Thu, February 3, 2011 6:25:56 PM Subject: [h-cost] Has anyone tried any of these on fabric? http://www.alvinco.com/shopping/family_sale_0_familyid_12030_cat_978_item_1293027097 7 http://www.alvinco.com/shopping/family_sale_0_familyid_12030_cat_978_item_1293007097 7 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] For anyone who's already created a historically inspired party dress
Or who can do it fast: You could win a new Bernina. Details at: http://www.burdastyle.com/blog/announcing-the-bernina-party-through-the-decades-international-competition?utm_source=BurdaStyle+Mainutm_campaign=ee2c71c9a4-Nov_1st_Bernina_Dedicated_10_28_2010utm_medium=email Fran Lavolta Press Two new books of 1880s patterns! www.lavoltapress.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Thank you Fran for letting us know. I've recently finished my ball dress so I'm going to give this a shot. I just have to figure out how to deal with the inspiration image, as that one is too small for their contest and I have no larger version. Kimiko Small http://www.kimiko1.com Be the change you want to see in the world. ~ Ghandi The Tudor Lady's Wardrobe pattern http://www.margospatterns.com/ Or who can do it fast: You could win a new Bernina. Details at: http://www.burdastyle.com/blog/announcing-the-bernina-party-through-the-decades-international-competition?utm_source=BurdaStyle+Mainutm_campaign=ee2c71c9a4-Nov_1st_Bernina_Dedicated_10_28_2010utm_medium=email Fran Lavolta Press ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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My guess is, since this is Burda, they want historically inspired modern rather than authentic historic. Though maybe steampunk or goth would count? Fran Lavolta Press Two new books of 1880s patterns! www.lavoltapress.com On 11/3/2010 3:38 PM, Kimiko Small wrote: Thank you Fran for letting us know. I've recently finished my ball dress so I'm going to give this a shot. I just have to figure out how to deal with the inspiration image, as that one is too small for their contest and I have no larger version. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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It is possible, but not what they have listed in their rules. They want a decade or two, and even in the qa mention that historical or futuristic is fine (not in so many words, but among their answers to other folks' queries. They don't even have limits on what patterns are used. I figure it is worth a little bit of my time to try it and see what happens. Kimiko From: Lavolta Press f...@lavoltapress.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Wed, November 3, 2010 4:11:10 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] For anyone who's already created a historically inspired party dress My guess is, since this is Burda, they want historically inspired modern rather than authentic historic. Though maybe steampunk or goth would count? Fran ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Can anyone help with links?
Thanks Deb, they are certainly some good links for me to consider long term. In the short run I'm more looking for display ideas of other exhibitions that people may have photographed and put online to get layout ideas. I've got some mannequins and heads but I'm the sort of person who puts some flowers in a vase and thats what they look like - someone else might do the same but it looks like a gorgeous display. Like also wearing a scarf or doing the hair - some have the 'knack'. I seem to have lost out in that department. Bye for now, Aylwen Earthly Delights Historic Dance Academy http://www.earthlydelights.com.au Director, Jane Austen Festival Australia http://www.janeaustenfestival.com.au Member, Jane Austen Society of Australia Member, Australian Costumers Guild On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Deborah Lane oonag...@bigpond.net.au wrote: Maybe you should consider contacting the University of Canberra. They have a cultural heritage unit that deals with museum studies and has conservators. They might be in a position to advise you. You are in the Nations Capital, with so many cultural institutions such as the National Gallery of Australia, National Museum of Australia, National Library of Australia, Australian War Memorial, all with full time curatorial and conservation staff. They do this all the time and are best qualified to advise you on best practices. Cheers Deb -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Aylwen Garden Sent: Friday, 19 March 2010 11:30 AM To: Historical Costume; gbacgcostum...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [h-cost] Can anyone help with links? Dear List I am putting on a display of historical costumes in our local library. I have at my disposal: - one tall glass case big enough for a mannequin - another tall case that has an adjustable shelf, presently fixed half-way - three rectangular glass cases lying flat suitable for books, gloves etc on display at table height. Does anyone know of any websites with pictures of costume displays in similar setups? I sew costumes but am not great at displaying and need to look at other sites for ideas on what/how to display. Bye for now, Aylwen Earthly Delights Historic Dance Academy http://www.earthlydelights.com.au Director, Jane Austen Festival Australia http://www.janeaustenfestival.com.au Member, Jane Austen Society of Australia Member, Australian Costumers Guild ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Can anyone help with links?
I also understand that CIT at Reid run a course for would be curators. I am sure they have a library with suitable texts for their students. ANU run a curatorship subject through their art history unit. Your husband works at the ANU, dose he not? Check their library. Or, as you say this is for your local library, I am sure they have the odd book about, have a look their. Be aware that previous exhibitions are subject to copyright, for content and layout. If you do indeed access information from any texts either in print or online, these are also subject to copyright. Full acknowledgement of their uses should be made. Regards Deb -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Aylwen Garden Sent: Saturday, 20 March 2010 9:17 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Can anyone help with links? Thanks Deb, they are certainly some good links for me to consider long term. In the short run I'm more looking for display ideas of other exhibitions that people may have photographed and put online to get layout ideas. I've got some mannequins and heads but I'm the sort of person who puts some flowers in a vase and thats what they look like - someone else might do the same but it looks like a gorgeous display. Like also wearing a scarf or doing the hair - some have the 'knack'. I seem to have lost out in that department. Bye for now, Aylwen On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Deborah Lane Maybe you should consider contacting the University of Canberra. They have a cultural heritage unit that deals with museum studies and has conservators. They might be in a position to advise you. You are in the Nations Capital, with so many cultural institutions such as the National Gallery of Australia, National Museum of Australia, National Library of Australia, Australian War Memorial, all with full time curatorial and conservation staff. They do this all the time and are best qualified to advise you on best practices. Cheers Deb -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Aylwen Garden Sent: Friday, 19 March 2010 11:30 AM To: Historical Costume; gbacgcostum...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [h-cost] Can anyone help with links? Dear List I am putting on a display of historical costumes in our local library. I have at my disposal: - one tall glass case big enough for a mannequin - another tall case that has an adjustable shelf, presently fixed half-way - three rectangular glass cases lying flat suitable for books, gloves etc on display at table height. Does anyone know of any websites with pictures of costume displays in similar setups? I sew costumes but am not great at displaying and need to look at other sites for ideas on what/how to display. Bye for now, Aylwen ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Can anyone help with links?
Dear List I am putting on a display of historical costumes in our local library. I have at my disposal: - one tall glass case big enough for a mannequin - another tall case that has an adjustable shelf, presently fixed half-way - three rectangular glass cases lying flat suitable for books, gloves etc on display at table height. Does anyone know of any websites with pictures of costume displays in similar setups? I sew costumes but am not great at displaying and need to look at other sites for ideas on what/how to display. Bye for now, Aylwen Earthly Delights Historic Dance Academy http://www.earthlydelights.com.au Director, Jane Austen Festival Australia http://www.janeaustenfestival.com.au Member, Jane Austen Society of Australia Member, Australian Costumers Guild ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Can anyone help with links?
Maybe you should consider contacting the University of Canberra. They have a cultural heritage unit that deals with museum studies and has conservators. They might be in a position to advise you. You are in the Nations Capital, with so many cultural institutions such as the National Gallery of Australia, National Museum of Australia, National Library of Australia, Australian War Memorial, all with full time curatorial and conservation staff. They do this all the time and are best qualified to advise you on best practices. Cheers Deb -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Aylwen Garden Sent: Friday, 19 March 2010 11:30 AM To: Historical Costume; gbacgcostum...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [h-cost] Can anyone help with links? Dear List I am putting on a display of historical costumes in our local library. I have at my disposal: - one tall glass case big enough for a mannequin - another tall case that has an adjustable shelf, presently fixed half-way - three rectangular glass cases lying flat suitable for books, gloves etc on display at table height. Does anyone know of any websites with pictures of costume displays in similar setups? I sew costumes but am not great at displaying and need to look at other sites for ideas on what/how to display. Bye for now, Aylwen Earthly Delights Historic Dance Academy http://www.earthlydelights.com.au Director, Jane Austen Festival Australia http://www.janeaustenfestival.com.au Member, Jane Austen Society of Australia Member, Australian Costumers Guild ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Do anyone know this lady? (Italian portrait)
Thank you! That's perfect! Liadain THL Liadain ni Mhordha OFO You get a wonderful view from the point of no return... http://www.flickr.com/photos/liadains_fancies http://practical-blackwork.blogspot.com http://practicalblackwork.com -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of otsisto Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 8:40 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Do anyone know this lady? (Italian portrait) about 1530-32 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Do anyone know this lady? (Italian portrait)
Am hunting the references on this painting - http://www.flickr.com/photos/liadains_fancies/3963118205/ Picked her up somewhere or other online, and now I really need to know where she lives and who painted her. Thanks for looking! Liadain THL Liadain ni Mhordha OFO You get a wonderful view from the point of no return... http://www.flickr.com/photos/liadains_fancies http://practical-blackwork.blogspot.com NEW!!! Website in progress!!!- http://practicalblackwork.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Do anyone know this lady? (Italian portrait)
I'm guessing it's a Bronzino painting. You might try Googling on Bronzinoand looking at the images. On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Tracy Thallas fathal...@collinscom.net wrote: Am hunting the references on this painting - http://www.flickr.com/photos/liadains_fancies/3963118205/ Picked her up somewhere or other online, and now I really need to know where she lives and who painted her. Thanks for looking! Liadain THL Liadain ni Mhordha OFO You get a wonderful view from the point of no return... http://www.flickr.com/photos/liadains_fancies http://practical-blackwork.blogspot.com NEW!!! Website in progress!!!- http://practicalblackwork.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Carolyn Kayta Barrows -- “The future is already here, it is just unevenly distributed.” -William Gibson -- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Do anyone know this lady? (Italian portrait)
Maybe from his workshop, I would guess it is probably not from the master's hand. Monica Spence PS- I have it too in my files, it just says Florentine. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Käthe Barrows Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 5:06 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Do anyone know this lady? (Italian portrait) I'm guessing it's a Bronzino painting. You might try Googling on Bronzinoand looking at the images. On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Tracy Thallas fathal...@collinscom.net wrote: Am hunting the references on this painting - http://www.flickr.com/photos/liadains_fancies/3963118205/ Picked her up somewhere or other online, and now I really need to know where she lives and who painted her. Thanks for looking! Liadain THL Liadain ni Mhordha OFO You get a wonderful view from the point of no return... http://www.flickr.com/photos/liadains_fancies http://practical-blackwork.blogspot.com NEW!!! Website in progress!!!- http://practicalblackwork.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Carolyn Kayta Barrows -- The future is already here, it is just unevenly distributed. -William Gibson -- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Do anyone know this lady? (Italian portrait)
Agnolo Bronzino: Portrait of a Lady Museo e Gallerie Nazionali di Capodimonte, Napoli Clearer pic can be found http://festiveattyre.com/research/secondflor/secflor5.html or realm of venus. Not much else online is said about it. maybe someone with a book on Florentine fashion. -Original Message- Am hunting the references on this painting - http://www.flickr.com/photos/liadains_fancies/3963118205/ Picked her up somewhere or other online, and now I really need to know where she lives and who painted her. Thanks for looking! Liadain THL Liadain ni Mhordha OFO You get a wonderful view from the point of no return... http://www.flickr.com/photos/liadains_fancies http://practical-blackwork.blogspot.com NEW!!! Website in progress!!!- http://practicalblackwork.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Do anyone know this lady? (Italian portrait)
Thanks, everybody! (Someone on this list always knows everything! :-) ) Googling Bronzino and School of Bronzino found me lots of other fun stuff to squirrel away (and I noted the details this time!) and the Festive Attyre pic is beautifully clear for the bit I want. About the only other bit of info I could use it the year - but with the title/artist/museum, have a great chance of finding that! Thanks! Liadain Happily off to museum-hop THL Liadain ni Mhordha OFO You get a wonderful view from the point of no return... http://www.flickr.com/photos/liadains_fancies http://practical-blackwork.blogspot.com NEW!!! Website in progress!!!- http://practicalblackwork.com -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of otsisto Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 2:31 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Do anyone know this lady? (Italian portrait) Agnolo Bronzino: Portrait of a Lady Museo e Gallerie Nazionali di Capodimonte, Napoli Clearer pic can be found http://festiveattyre.com/research/secondflor/secflor5.html or realm of venus. Not much else online is said about it. maybe someone with a book on Florentine fashion. -Original Message- Am hunting the references on this painting - http://www.flickr.com/photos/liadains_fancies/3963118205/ Picked her up somewhere or other online, and now I really need to know where she lives and who painted her. Thanks for looking! Liadain THL Liadain ni Mhordha OFO You get a wonderful view from the point of no return... http://www.flickr.com/photos/liadains_fancies http://practical-blackwork.blogspot.com NEW!!! Website in progress!!!- http://practicalblackwork.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Do anyone know this lady? (Italian portrait)
About the only other bit of info I could use it the year - but with the title/artist/museum, have a great chance of finding that! Thanks! OK, so what were the dates on the other ones with the same dress? That should get it within 10 years either way. -- Carolyn Kayta Barrows -- “The future is already here, it is just unevenly distributed.” -William Gibson -- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Do anyone know this lady? (Italian portrait)
Yup. And a decade (1540s or whatever) is plenty close enough for my needs! (Though someday I would also love to have a facsimile of that dress) Liadain THL Liadain ni Mhordha OFO You get a wonderful view from the point of no return... http://www.flickr.com/photos/liadains_fancies http://practical-blackwork.blogspot.com NEW!!! Website in progress!!!- http://practicalblackwork.com -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Käthe Barrows Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 2:58 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Do anyone know this lady? (Italian portrait) About the only other bit of info I could use it the year - but with the title/artist/museum, have a great chance of finding that! Thanks! OK, so what were the dates on the other ones with the same dress? That should get it within 10 years either way. -- Carolyn Kayta Barrows -- The future is already here, it is just unevenly distributed. -William Gibson -- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Do anyone know this lady? (Italian portrait)
about 1530-32 -Original Message- About the only other bit of info I could use it the year - but with the title/artist/museum, have a great chance of finding that! Thanks! OK, so what were the dates on the other ones with the same dress? That should get it within 10 years either way. -- Carolyn Kayta Barrows -- “The future is already here, it is just unevenly distributed.” -William Gibson -- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] iDye? Anyone used it yet?
I read about this in this month's Thread's magazine. Has anyone used it yet? If so, what do you think? http://www.dharmatrading.com/html/eng/5590684-AA.shtml Sg ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] iDye? Anyone used it yet?
Threads says the formula for synthetics is suitable for polyester and nylon. Probably straight from the press release. But nylon is relatively easy to dye -- use acid dyes, the same as silk and wool. And polyester is pretty much impossible to dye, and has consumed many a textile chemist's career coloring the polyester before it's ever spun. So I'm really curious about how this is supposed to work. Ann in CT --- On Thu, 7/3/08, Saragrace Knauf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I read about this in this month's Thread's magazine. Has anyone used it yet? If so, what do you think? http://www.dharmatrading.com/html/eng/5590684-AA.shtml Sg ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Re: Anyone seen this in history before?
I was browsing through my Pyramid Collection Catalog and came across this skirt and thought it was a great idea. I think I had seen a variation on this a few months ago in Brugges, Belgium (a woman riding a bicycle), but this is the first time I've seen it in a catalogue. http://www.pyramidcollection.com/itemdy00.asp?T1=P8276+SHas anyone ever come across this look in any period in history? The flouncy mode reminds me of some southern belle look, but those are probably permanently sewn in.Great idea for keeping your skirts out of the dirt! I know I plan on using it for my less than historically accurate stuff with the SCA.Sg Mid-19th century: to raise the skirt slightly to show a fancy overpetticoat or to provide ease in walking or sports such as croquet. Regards, Kelly _ Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! http://biggestloser.msn.com/___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Has anyone heard of the new fabric?
Yes. Does it show? :-D I especially liked the ceremonial collar. (See, I knew it had some costume content!) -Carol Did you ever read a graphic novel called Motel of the Mysteries, featuring the archaelogical discovery of a 20th-century motel? Fran Lavolta Press http://www.lavoltapress.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm imagining the reenactor of the future doing light research about people in the early 21stC wearing corn. They will do extensive experiments with spinning and weaving the corn silk - we must have l ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Has anyone heard of the new fabric?
I'm imagining the reenactor of the future doing light research about people in the early 21stC wearing corn. They will do extensive experiments with spinning and weaving the corn silk - we must have lost that technology! And then someone will find a corn-husk doll and understand that it was a realistic representation of dress. But did people wear giant corn husks, or make feathered garments with them? What base fabric did they use? Can anyone help me with this research, someone said they did not grow corn as large as we do today, but then I saw this movie called Sleeper where obviously they did... ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Has anyone heard of the new fabric?
In a message dated 4/14/2006 3:30:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Did you ever read a graphic novel called Motel of the Mysteries, featuring the archaelogical discovery of a 20th-century motel? Rather OT, but required reading for all historians! Ann Wass ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Has anyone heard of the new fabric?
I found the link in a friend's blog - fabric made from corn. Really! http://msnbc.msn.com/id/12225701/site/newsweek/ Wonder how much it truly costs... ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Has anyone heard of the new fabric?
I found the link in a friend's blog - fabric made from corn. Really!
There are knitting yarns made of this already, and yarns made of milk. In,
I believe, the 1880s, the new fiber was one made of wood (Rayon).
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Re: [h-cost] Has anyone heard of the new fabric?
Milk??? Hmmm, now I have heard of textiles made from the cellulose in soy, but milk? I can't remember right now which product, but either Silk soy milk, or Vitasoy has a little history of all the textile stuff that Henry Ford tried to use soy for. Some of my spinner friends don't particularly like spinning with soy silk, but then I suppose it is all what you get used to and what you have access to. Funny, when I tried to google on soy silk, I got this: Soy Silk and Ingeo Corn Fiber http://www.earthguild.com/products/spinning/spsoycor.htm Soy Silk is made of left-overs from the tofu manufacturing process. ... Blending 75% Soy Silk with 25% fine wool adds memory and bounce while maintaining ...www.earthguild.com/products/spinning/spsoycor.htm - 4k - But when I clicked on it, I couldn't find anything else about the Inego.I wonder how long it has been around? Bummer that it can melt when it gets ironed...I wonder how bad it isthanks for sharing! Sg Carolyn Kayta Barrows wrote: I found the link in a friend's blog - fabric made from corn. Really! There are knitting yarns made of this already, and yarns made of milk. In, I believe, the 1880s, the new fiber was one made of wood (Rayon). ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Has anyone heard of the new fabric?
Corn - the new peanut. Sounds like they are trying to make corn into everything from clothes to gas. However, thin, not stretcy fabric sounds good and the dress in the picture looks floaty enough for anyone. Hope they don't use all the corn up - I like eating it. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] has anyone used Butterick 4485 (18th century court gown)?
So *that's* how you do it, Bjarne! :- I am now not only in awe of your embroidery and costuming skills, but your computer-pattern-tweaking, too! Joannah. --- Bjarne og Leif Drews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Elizabeth, I know it is hard for you when you cant drape on a dress stand. But why dont you do like this: It requires that you have the patterns books off cause, a computer and a drawingprogram like for instance Corel Draw. You can scan in the pattern you want, open it in your drawing program. Meassure a point of yourself where you want the pattern to be the same meassure. Take for instance your bodice side meassure. Find the bodice side meassure in the book. You then have that your own bodice side is, say (30cm.) The meassure of the pattern side bodice is ( 2,8cm) Now you devide 30 with 2,8 cm wich is 10,714 This means that you have to enlarge your pattern 1071,4 % In the drawing programme there is a tab where you can resamble your pattern. Place in 1071,4 % and it will enlarge your pattern in the meassures you want. My drawing program also can print out the whole pattern in A4 papers. It can tile the big picture and print out all the pattern parts. This gives you an excakt print of the book pattern. I often use this method when i make new corsets. You have to work on this original pattern to fit your own body off cause, but that you also have to do with finished cut out patterns. I know that the skirts are huge to print out, but you could use it to get the right bodice construktion. Bjarne _ Sluggy.Net: The Sluggy Freelance Community! ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] has anyone used Butterick 4485 (18th century court gown)?
- Original Message - From: Bjarne og Leif Drews [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 8:55 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] has anyone used Butterick 4485 (18th century court gown)? Hi Elizabeth, I know it is hard for you when you cant drape on a dress stand. But why dont you do like this: snip Bjarne, Thanks for the advice, but I was not planning to use this pattern for myself. It's for a class I was planning to teach for new costumers. I'm in the SCA (a medieval and renaissance group) I was going to try to teach some newcomers that there is a middle ground between drafting your own patterns (or buying expensive patterns from a small pattern company) and using a major commercial pattern as it is (which produces the wrong shape). I thought some of them might appreciate something other than the basic tunic that SCA people usually teach newcomers to make (e.g. http://www.sca.org.au/politarchopolis/library/tunic.php or the more period way http://www.reconstructinghistory.com/beginners/FirstGarb.html which is becoming more popular all the time) My original plan was to base this class on how to turn Simplicity's version of the costumes from the Movie Shakespeare in Love (I've even written a webpage on it http://au.geocities.com/e_walpole/SiL/Fixing_SiL.html) into a more accurate 16th century gown. Then it occoured to me that if I used a pattern with the right basic shape I wouldn't have to modify the bodice as much (though it would obviously still need some changes), given that Butterick has also released an 18th cenutry stays pattern I thought that this bodice might be designed to be worn over those stays instead of modern underwear like all the other major commercial patterns. I will hang onto your advice, for enlarging using drawing software, but I don't have a scanner so for now I'm going to have to do it by hand (I've done it successfully for one polonaise gown from Patterns of Fashion1 and one 1850s corset from Corsets and Crinolines). Elizabeth Elizabeth Walpole Canberra Australia ewalpole[at]tpg.com.au http://au.geocities.com/e_walpole/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] has anyone used Butterick 4485 (18th century court gown)?
hello to the list, I know we discussed this pattern when it first came out, but I was wondering if anybody has actually looked at it and worked out if it's designed to be worn over the corset (the pictures on the website aren't clear)? If the bodice is cut to be worn over a cone shaped foundation it could be really useful as a base for several time periods. Whilst the skirt may not be to everyone's taste a bodice that's already got the period silhouette right without needing to get rid of the curved princess seams could be a valuable pattern to have, and certainly a much better starting point for beginners than the ones designed to be worn over a bra. Obviously the back seams are in the wrong place for all the periods I can think of but it's still a better starting point than any of the other big 3 patterns. I ask because I was thinking of teaching a class on removing princess seams so people can create an Elizabethan bodice from a commercial pattern, but if this one is already in the right shape I'd probably recommend it as a bodice pattern. Elizabeth Elizabeth Walpole Canberra Australia ewalpole[at]tpg.com.au http://au.geocities.com/e_walpole/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
