Re: [h-cost] Unidenitified object - solved
Ok, that makes sense. When I do an edge, I do the same thing with a round hoop. The material edge just sits in the space between the hoop edges. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Charlene Charette Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 8:38 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Unidenitified object - solved The hoop (no idea what it's official name is) has a horseshoe-like shape. You open it and place the fabric so that when you close the hoop the fabric edge is across the opening between the tips. Friction holds it closed. --Charlene On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Sharon Collier sha...@collierfam.com wrote: How does it work? -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Charlene Charette Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 1:26 PM To: Historical Costume; Historic Needlework Subject: Re: [h-cost] Unidenitified object - solved The mystery object turns out to be an embroidery hoop used for working on handkerchief edges. I wasn't convinced that it would hold taut enough, but after testing it does appear to work just fine. --Charlene On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Charlene Charette charlene...@gmail.com wrote: This was found in my grandmother's things after she passed. She kept it with her sewing stuff although that doesn't necessarily mean it's sewing-related. Any idea what it is? http://picasaweb.google.com/Charlene281/20100404?feat=directlink --Charlene -- Gossip is when you hear something you like about someone you don't. --Earl Wilson -- Only one thing is impossible for God: To find any sense in any copyright law on the planet. -- Mark Twain ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Only one thing is impossible for God: To find any sense in any copyright law on the planet. -- Mark Twain ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Unidenitified object
A picture would do the trick...if i can manipulate my camera and this screen. I will try. -Original Message- From: Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com Sent 4/15/2010 1:31:34 AM To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Unidenitified objectAs a knitter historian, I can't see how the second object might be used. A pic would help. == Marjorie Wilser =:=:=:Three Toad Press:=:=: Learn to laugh at yourself and you will never lack for amusement. --MW http://3toad.blogspot.com/ On Apr 14, 2010, at 6:33 AM, R Lloyd Mitchell wrote: I have the piece you describe above and the 'sewing' item is nothing like it. VT Country Store still stocks the hair item. ?My 'racket' is definately a sewing/knitting tool of some kind. It came in a lot of sewing items; also in the lot is a piece (same plastic) that at first looks like a baby pacifier. It is a 5 stick with small loop at one end and a disc about the size of a fifty cent coin, is pierced and mounted on the stick. The other end is slightly like a tweezer, but not manipulative. Anyone want to guess this one? Kathleen -Original Message- From: Margo Anderson li...@margospatterns.com Sent 4/12/2010 8:42:43 PM To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Unidenitified objectI bought something identical to it from Goody hair accessories back in the early 80's. It was for doing rolled, 40's style hairdos, and I believe it was a repro of something from that time. You were supposed to catch the ends of your hair between the two halves and then roll it up. I never could make it work properly. Margo On Apr 5, 2010, at 6:32 AM, R Lloyd Mitchell wrote: Wow!? This would answer for mine.? Could also be used to stabilize crochet balls. kathleen? -Original Message- From: otsisto otsi...@socket.net Sent 4/5/2010 9:15:23 AM To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Unidenitified objectIt may not be the same thing but I have seen something similar to it. One was used for the mouth of a yarn bag. The other use was for sewing but I can't remeber what specifically for and I had the impression that it was an adaptation to what it's original purpose was. Sorry, De -Original Message- This was found in my grandmother's things after she passed. She kept it with her sewing stuff although that doesn't necessarily mean it's sewing-related. Any idea what it is? http://picasaweb.google.com/Charlene281/20100404?feat=directlink --Charlene -- Gossip is when you hear something you like about someone you don't. --Earl Wilson ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Unidenitified object
R Lloyd Mitchell wrote: also in the lot is a piece (same plastic) that at first looks like a baby pacifier. It is a 5 stick with small loop at one end and a disc about the size of a fifty cent coin, is pierced and mounted on the stick. The other end is slightly like a tweezer, but not manipulative. Anyone want to guess this one? It sounds like something that could be used for buttoning. As for the original mystery item, it looks too small and too smooth to be used in hair. It would need teeth of some sort to hold a roll of hair. I thought, from its size it might be used to hold open a sleeve, pant leg, sock or lady's boot, perhaps for repair work or to let it dry. But again, it is very smooth and I doubt it would stay in place. And shoe shapers aren't made like that. Dawn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Unidenitified object - solved
The hoop (no idea what it's official name is) has a horseshoe-like shape. You open it and place the fabric so that when you close the hoop the fabric edge is across the opening between the tips. Friction holds it closed. --Charlene On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Sharon Collier sha...@collierfam.com wrote: How does it work? -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Charlene Charette Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 1:26 PM To: Historical Costume; Historic Needlework Subject: Re: [h-cost] Unidenitified object - solved The mystery object turns out to be an embroidery hoop used for working on handkerchief edges. I wasn't convinced that it would hold taut enough, but after testing it does appear to work just fine. --Charlene On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Charlene Charette charlene...@gmail.com wrote: This was found in my grandmother's things after she passed. She kept it with her sewing stuff although that doesn't necessarily mean it's sewing-related. Any idea what it is? http://picasaweb.google.com/Charlene281/20100404?feat=directlink --Charlene -- Gossip is when you hear something you like about someone you don't. --Earl Wilson -- Only one thing is impossible for God: To find any sense in any copyright law on the planet. -- Mark Twain ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Only one thing is impossible for God: To find any sense in any copyright law on the planet. -- Mark Twain ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Unidenitified object
I have the piece you describe above and the 'sewing' item is nothing like it. VT Country Store still stocks the hair item. ?My 'racket' is definately a sewing/knitting tool of some kind. It came in a lot of sewing items; also in the lot is a piece (same plastic) that at first looks like a baby pacifier. It is a 5 stick with small loop at one end and a disc about the size of a fifty cent coin, is pierced and mounted on the stick. The other end is slightly like a tweezer, but not manipulative. Anyone want to guess this one? Kathleen -Original Message- From: Margo Anderson li...@margospatterns.com Sent 4/12/2010 8:42:43 PM To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Unidenitified objectI bought something identical to it from Goody hair accessories back in the early 80's. It was for doing rolled, 40's style hairdos, and I believe it was a repro of something from that time. You were supposed to catch the ends of your hair between the two halves and then roll it up. I never could make it work properly. Margo On Apr 5, 2010, at 6:32 AM, R Lloyd Mitchell wrote: Wow!? This would answer for mine.? Could also be used to stabilize crochet balls. kathleen? -Original Message- From: otsisto otsi...@socket.net Sent 4/5/2010 9:15:23 AM To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Unidenitified objectIt may not be the same thing but I have seen something similar to it. One was used for the mouth of a yarn bag. The other use was for sewing but I can't remeber what specifically for and I had the impression that it was an adaptation to what it's original purpose was. Sorry, De -Original Message- This was found in my grandmother's things after she passed. She kept it with her sewing stuff although that doesn't necessarily mean it's sewing-related. Any idea what it is? http://picasaweb.google.com/Charlene281/20100404?feat=directlink --Charlene -- Gossip is when you hear something you like about someone you don't. --Earl Wilson ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Unidenitified object
I am thinking by your description that it may be something to do with making lace but not bobbin lace. Or it could be a pin puller. -Original Message- I have the piece you describe above and the 'sewing' item is nothing like it. VT Country Store still stocks the hair item. ?My 'racket' is definately a sewing/knitting tool of some kind. It came in a lot of sewing items; also in the lot is a piece (same plastic) that at first looks like a baby pacifier. It is a 5 stick with small loop at one end and a disc about the size of a fifty cent coin, is pierced and mounted on the stick. The other end is slightly like a tweezer, but not manipulative. Anyone want to guess this one? Kathleen ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Unidenitified object
As a knitter historian, I can't see how the second object might be used. A pic would help. == Marjorie Wilser =:=:=:Three Toad Press:=:=:= Learn to laugh at yourself and you will never lack for amusement. --MW http://3toad.blogspot.com/ On Apr 14, 2010, at 6:33 AM, R Lloyd Mitchell wrote: I have the piece you describe above and the 'sewing' item is nothing like it. VT Country Store still stocks the hair item. ?My 'racket' is definately a sewing/knitting tool of some kind. It came in a lot of sewing items; also in the lot is a piece (same plastic) that at first looks like a baby pacifier. It is a 5 stick with small loop at one end and a disc about the size of a fifty cent coin, is pierced and mounted on the stick. The other end is slightly like a tweezer, but not manipulative. Anyone want to guess this one? Kathleen -Original Message- From: Margo Anderson li...@margospatterns.com Sent 4/12/2010 8:42:43 PM To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Unidenitified objectI bought something identical to it from Goody hair accessories back in the early 80's. It was for doing rolled, 40's style hairdos, and I believe it was a repro of something from that time. You were supposed to catch the ends of your hair between the two halves and then roll it up. I never could make it work properly. Margo On Apr 5, 2010, at 6:32 AM, R Lloyd Mitchell wrote: Wow!? This would answer for mine.? Could also be used to stabilize crochet balls. kathleen? -Original Message- From: otsisto otsi...@socket.net Sent 4/5/2010 9:15:23 AM To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Unidenitified objectIt may not be the same thing but I have seen something similar to it. One was used for the mouth of a yarn bag. The other use was for sewing but I can't remeber what specifically for and I had the impression that it was an adaptation to what it's original purpose was. Sorry, De -Original Message- This was found in my grandmother's things after she passed. She kept it with her sewing stuff although that doesn't necessarily mean it's sewing-related. Any idea what it is? http://picasaweb.google.com/Charlene281/20100404?feat=directlink --Charlene -- Gossip is when you hear something you like about someone you don't. --Earl Wilson ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Unidenitified object
http://picasaweb.google.com/Charlene281/20100404?feat=directlink I bought something identical to it from Goody hair accessories back in the early 80's. It was for doing rolled, 40's style hairdos, and I believe it was a repro of something from that time. You were supposed to catch the ends of your hair between the two halves and then roll it up. I never could make it work properly. Sometimes in simplifying something, they make it unusable. The new modern hair ratts are what they though they were trying to simplify... but you needed very long hair to use them. I so prefer these kinds of flexible ratts: http://www.wilshirewigs.com/5334---Sm-Ratt-With-Elastic-pr-2410.html You can actually tuck long hair between the elastic and the rat and roll. Short hair you need to pin into the ratt, AND the ends of the elastic (rolled against the ratt) help you secure pins. Much better than the hard plastic. These do '40's do's as well as Gibson girl, Victorian, and anything that needs a roll instead of forcing just one shape Note: don't confuse these withe the other modern substitute, standard sponge rolls. You can't pin on those, you'd be better off w/ the hard plastic. -Cat- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Unidenitified object
I bought something identical to it from Goody hair accessories back in the early 80's. It was for doing rolled, 40's style hairdos, and I believe it was a repro of something from that time. You were supposed to catch the ends of your hair between the two halves and then roll it up. I never could make it work properly. Margo On Apr 5, 2010, at 6:32 AM, R Lloyd Mitchell wrote: Wow!? This would answer for mine.? Could also be used to stabilize crochet balls. kathleen? -Original Message- From: otsisto otsi...@socket.net Sent 4/5/2010 9:15:23 AM To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Unidenitified objectIt may not be the same thing but I have seen something similar to it. One was used for the mouth of a yarn bag. The other use was for sewing but I can't remeber what specifically for and I had the impression that it was an adaptation to what it's original purpose was. Sorry, De -Original Message- This was found in my grandmother's things after she passed. She kept it with her sewing stuff although that doesn't necessarily mean it's sewing-related. Any idea what it is? http://picasaweb.google.com/Charlene281/20100404?feat=directlink --Charlene -- Gossip is when you hear something you like about someone you don't. --Earl Wilson ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Unidenitified object
Still _could_ be a purse frame. I could make a purse out of it by crocheting over the frame, or sewing fabric (by hand) over the frame to make a totally covered purse. Of course, one would then need to add a loop and button closure. == Marjorie Wilser =:=:=:Three Toad Press:=:=:= Learn to laugh at yourself and you will never lack for amusement. --MW http://3toad.blogspot.com/ On Apr 4, 2010, at 10:22 PM, Charlene Charette wrote: No holes; smooth plastic with a rivet-like hinge. --Charlene On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 12:11 AM, Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com wrote: It looks like a small purse frame to me. Are there holes around the edges for thread to go through? == Marjorie Wilser =:=:=:Three Toad Press:=:=:= Learn to laugh at yourself and you will never lack for amusement. --MW http://3toad.blogspot.com/ On Apr 4, 2010, at 9:02 PM, Charlene Charette wrote: This was found in my grandmother's things after she passed. She kept it with her sewing stuff although that doesn't necessarily mean it's sewing-related. Any idea what it is? http://picasaweb.google.com/Charlene281/20100404?feat=directlink --Charlene -- Gossip is when you hear something you like about someone you don't. --Earl Wilson ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Only one thing is impossible for God: To find any sense in any copyright law on the planet. -- Mark Twain ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Unidenitified object
I have one of these, also.? Mine is white plastic; the shape varies slightly.? The outer piece is shaped like a racketball/tennis racket (without handle) and the inner piece is more triangular (heart?), split at the top with daggard tips. The out rim is?3 1/2, inner: 2 1/2.? It is the only unidentified tool in my Victorian sewing basket. I have shared the basket with contents, with senior women at nursing or retirement?homes and 'it'?has never been named, yet.? -Original Message- From: Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com Sent 4/5/2010 2:39:26 AM To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Unidenitified objectStill _could_ be a purse frame. I could make a purse out of it by crocheting over the frame, or sewing fabric (by hand) over the frame to make a totally covered purse. Of course, one would then need to add a loop and button closure. == Marjorie Wilser =:=:=:Three Toad Press:=:=: Learn to laugh at yourself and you will never lack for amusement. --MW http://3toad.blogspot.com/ On Apr 4, 2010, at 10:22 PM, Charlene Charette wrote: No holes; smooth plastic with a rivet-like hinge. --Charlene On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 12:11 AM, Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com wrote: It looks like a small purse frame to me. Are there holes around the edges for thread to go through? == Marjorie Wilser =:=:=:Three Toad Press:=:=: Learn to laugh at yourself and you will never lack for amusement. --MW http://3toad.blogspot.com/ On Apr 4, 2010, at 9:02 PM, Charlene Charette wrote: This was found in my grandmother's things after she passed. She kept it with her sewing stuff although that doesn't necessarily mean it's sewing-related. Any idea what it is? http://picasaweb.google.com/Charlene281/20100404?feat=directlink --Charlene -- Gossip is when you hear something you like about someone you don't. --Earl Wilson ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Only one thing is impossible for God: To find any sense in any copyright law on the planet. -- Mark Twain ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Unidenitified object
It may not be the same thing but I have seen something similar to it. One was used for the mouth of a yarn bag. The other use was for sewing but I can't remeber what specifically for and I had the impression that it was an adaptation to what it's original purpose was. Sorry, De -Original Message- This was found in my grandmother's things after she passed. She kept it with her sewing stuff although that doesn't necessarily mean it's sewing-related. Any idea what it is? http://picasaweb.google.com/Charlene281/20100404?feat=directlink --Charlene -- Gossip is when you hear something you like about someone you don't. --Earl Wilson ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Unidenitified object
Wow!? This would answer for mine.? Could also be used to stabilize crochet balls. kathleen? -Original Message- From: otsisto otsi...@socket.net Sent 4/5/2010 9:15:23 AM To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Unidenitified objectIt may not be the same thing but I have seen something similar to it. One was used for the mouth of a yarn bag. The other use was for sewing but I can't remeber what specifically for and I had the impression that it was an adaptation to what it's original purpose was. Sorry, De -Original Message- This was found in my grandmother's things after she passed. She kept it with her sewing stuff although that doesn't necessarily mean it's sewing-related. Any idea what it is? http://picasaweb.google.com/Charlene281/20100404?feat=directlink --Charlene -- Gossip is when you hear something you like about someone you don't. --Earl Wilson ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Unidenitified object
This was found in my grandmother's things after she passed. She kept it with her sewing stuff although that doesn't necessarily mean it's sewing-related. Any idea what it is? http://picasaweb.google.com/Charlene281/20100404?feat=directlink --Charlene -- Gossip is when you hear something you like about someone you don't. --Earl Wilson ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Unidenitified object
It looks like a small purse frame to me. Are there holes around the edges for thread to go through? == Marjorie Wilser =:=:=:Three Toad Press:=:=:= Learn to laugh at yourself and you will never lack for amusement. --MW http://3toad.blogspot.com/ On Apr 4, 2010, at 9:02 PM, Charlene Charette wrote: This was found in my grandmother's things after she passed. She kept it with her sewing stuff although that doesn't necessarily mean it's sewing-related. Any idea what it is? http://picasaweb.google.com/Charlene281/20100404?feat=directlink --Charlene -- Gossip is when you hear something you like about someone you don't. --Earl Wilson ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Unidenitified object
No holes; smooth plastic with a rivet-like hinge. --Charlene On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 12:11 AM, Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com wrote: It looks like a small purse frame to me. Are there holes around the edges for thread to go through? == Marjorie Wilser =:=:=:Three Toad Press:=:=:= Learn to laugh at yourself and you will never lack for amusement. --MW http://3toad.blogspot.com/ On Apr 4, 2010, at 9:02 PM, Charlene Charette wrote: This was found in my grandmother's things after she passed. She kept it with her sewing stuff although that doesn't necessarily mean it's sewing-related. Any idea what it is? http://picasaweb.google.com/Charlene281/20100404?feat=directlink --Charlene -- Gossip is when you hear something you like about someone you don't. --Earl Wilson ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Only one thing is impossible for God: To find any sense in any copyright law on the planet. -- Mark Twain ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
