Re: [Hardhats-members] How to evoke Fileman functions.
I agree with all of the following, that FileMan functions generally need to be evaluated in a FileMan context. George Timson recently (in the last year or so) has provided an enhancement to FileMan's Single Data Retriever that may have a bearing on this discussion. The field argument (the 3rd argument to the call $$GET1^DIQ() can now be an On-the-fly Computed Expression. This means FileMan functions can now be evaluated in a FileMan context, and retrieved from MUMPS code. For example, evaluating in the context of the File #1 (file of files) and entry # 1 (the File named FILE) the NUMDATE(TODAY) expression can be evaluated as: WRITE $$GET1^DIQ(1,1,,NUMDATE(TODAY)),! 05/17/05 Retrieving the current user would be: WRITE $$GET1^DIQ(1,1,,XUSER),! WHITTEN,DAVID J And of course, these values can be stored in a MUMPS local variable: SET WHEN=$$GET1^DIQ(1,1,,NOW) WRITE WHEN,! MAY 17,[EMAIL PROTECTED]:28:27 I hope this helps, David Whitten Even now, it's not uncommon to define small frequently used functions as inline in C/C++. It has the same effect (the code is expanded inline at compile time) as an alternative to allocating a new stack frame and going through the whole call/return process. Regardless of whether or not this was the motivation for FM functions, it is a benefit. Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] On May 16, 2005, at 8:23 PM, Greg Kreis wrote: The FM functions are evaluated and then used to drive the generation of code, so there isn't an API available. A classic approach would have APIs and pass the parameters to them, but back in the day, code that was executed was many times faster than running a routine, if you could squeeze it all in one or two lines. I don't know that performance was really the reason. There was also the benefit of the code being stored in the DD for reuse through execution. Even now, it's not uncommon to define small frequently used functions as inline in C/C++. It has the same effect (the code is expanded inline at compile time) as an alternative to allocating a new stack frame and going through the whole call/return process. Regardless of whether or not this was the motivation for FM functions, it is a benefit. Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] On May 16, 2005, at 8:23 PM, Greg Kreis wrote: excerpt The FM functions are evaluated and then used to drive the generation of code, so there isn't an API available. A classic approach would have APIs and pass the parameters to them, but back in the day, code that was executed was many times faster than running a routine, if you could squeeze it all in one or two lines. I don't know that performance was really the reason. There was also the benefit of the code being stored in the DD for reuse through execution./excerpt --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes Want to be the first software developer in space? Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7412alloc_id=16344op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] How to evoke Fileman functions.
OK. Thanks. It would be cool if there was a bridge (API call), but no big deal if there is not. Thanks Kevi --- Greg Kreis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FM functions are, as the name implies, functions in the FM domain. M functions, on the other hand, are applicable in the M domain. So forget about using the FM functions in M code or M routines. But, they are quite handy in print, sort and input templates and in defining computed fields (all activities in FM). Kevin Toppenberg wrote: But PRINT NUMDATE(TODAY) would crash if I put this into a M function (i.e. outside Fileman). So I assume that a M function can not call these Fileman custom functions. Correct? I.e, I can't do the following MyFunct(Param1) PRINT NUMDATE(Param1) quit Kevin --- Thurman Pedigo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A function can be used almost anywhere. For instance if you wanted to print numeric date just use the function with date enclosed in (): Like: PRINT NUMDATE(TODAY) Most functions will give you format and use. Probably my two most common functions are NUMDATE and SETDATA. Then you can make your own. SETDATA(FIELD1,FIELD2) sets FIELD1=FIELD2 OR SETDATA(FIELD1,FIELD2+12) and almost any expression you desire can be executed. Functions made me the lazy programmer I am today. Most users think of functions in a print statement. However, they can be used in triggers and almost any place you can specify a field. ...tx/t NAME: NUMDATE// MUMPS CODE: S:X X=$E(X,4,5)_/_$E(X,6,7)_/_$E(X,2,3) Replace EXPLANATION: DATE IN 'NN/NN/NN' FORMAT// DATE-VALUED: NUMBER OF ARGUMENTS: WORD-PROCESSING: NAME: SETDATA// MUMPS CODE: S X1=X// EXPLANATION: SETS FIRST ARGUMENT EQUAL TO THE SECOND ARGUMENT Replace DATE-VALUED: NUMBER OF ARGUMENTS: 2// WORD-PROCESSING: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardhats- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Toppenberg Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2005 3:59 PM To: Hardhats Sourceforge Subject: [Hardhats-members] How to evoke Fileman functions. I just stumbled across the concept of creating Fileman functions. These are stored in file FUNCTION. But I can't figure out how to evoke them. Are they functions that one would use in an input/output transform, or would one use them in creating programs? Thanks Kevin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes Want to be the first software developer in space? Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7393alloc_id=16281op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes Want to be the first software developer in space? Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7393alloc_id=16281op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes === message truncated === __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes Want to be the first software developer in space? Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7412alloc_id=16344op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] How to evoke Fileman functions.
Don't think that will work. The functions operate on FileMan fields. There isn't much need if you are sending code, just store it as a routine and call it. I am don't use (or know) param so I could be wrong here. The print command to which I referred is a single print statement inside a print call. For instance: OUTPUT FROM WHAT FILE: MAW DOT// SORT BY: DOTID// @DOTID START WITH DOTID: FIRST// WITHIN DOTID, SORT BY: FIRST PRINT FIELD: DOT DATE THEN PRINT FIELD: NUMDATE(DOT DATE) THEN PRINT FIELD: SETDATA(WORKFLD,NUMDATE(DOT DATE)) THEN PRINT FIELD: WORKFLD THEN PRINT FIELD: APR 23,2001 04/23/01 04/23/01 APR 25,2001 04/25/01 04/25/01 Someone with experience param may clarify how it could work. My work with functions has been limited to fields. You can use functions to execute code, that's actually what happens when a function is called. Functions are also great for sending control codes to printers. ...tx/t -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardhats- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Toppenberg Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2005 6:31 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] How to evoke Fileman functions. But PRINT NUMDATE(TODAY) would crash if I put this into a M function (i.e. outside Fileman). So I assume that a M function can not call these Fileman custom functions. Correct? I.e, I can't do the following MyFunct(Param1) PRINT NUMDATE(Param1) quit Kevin --- Thurman Pedigo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A function can be used almost anywhere. For instance if you wanted to print numeric date just use the function with date enclosed in (): Like: PRINT NUMDATE(TODAY) Most functions will give you format and use. Probably my two most common functions are NUMDATE and SETDATA. Then you can make your own. SETDATA(FIELD1,FIELD2) sets FIELD1=FIELD2 OR SETDATA(FIELD1,FIELD2+12) and almost any expression you desire can be executed. Functions made me the lazy programmer I am today. Most users think of functions in a print statement. However, they can be used in triggers and almost any place you can specify a field. ...tx/t NAME: NUMDATE// MUMPS CODE: S:X X=$E(X,4,5)_/_$E(X,6,7)_/_$E(X,2,3) Replace EXPLANATION: DATE IN 'NN/NN/NN' FORMAT// DATE-VALUED: NUMBER OF ARGUMENTS: WORD-PROCESSING: NAME: SETDATA// MUMPS CODE: S X1=X// EXPLANATION: SETS FIRST ARGUMENT EQUAL TO THE SECOND ARGUMENT Replace DATE-VALUED: NUMBER OF ARGUMENTS: 2// WORD-PROCESSING: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardhats- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Toppenberg Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2005 3:59 PM To: Hardhats Sourceforge Subject: [Hardhats-members] How to evoke Fileman functions. I just stumbled across the concept of creating Fileman functions. These are stored in file FUNCTION. But I can't figure out how to evoke them. Are they functions that one would use in an input/output transform, or would one use them in creating programs? Thanks Kevin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes Want to be the first software developer in space? Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7393alloc_id=16281op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes Want to be the first software developer in space? Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7393alloc_id=16281op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes Want to be the first software developer in space? Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7393alloc_id=16281op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes
Re: [Hardhats-members] How to evoke Fileman functions.
The FM functions are evaluated and then used to drive the generation of code, so there isn't an API available. A classic approach would have APIs and pass the parameters to them, but back in the day, code that was executed was many times faster than running a routine, if you could squeeze it all in one or two lines. I don't know that performance was really the reason. There was also the benefit of the code being stored in the DD for reuse through execution. Kevin Toppenberg wrote: OK. Thanks. It would be cool if there was a bridge (API call), but no big deal if there is not. Thanks Kevi --- Greg Kreis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FM functions are, as the name implies, functions in the FM domain. M functions, on the other hand, are applicable in the M domain. So forget about using the FM functions in M code or M routines. But, they are quite handy in print, sort and input templates and in defining computed fields (all activities in FM). Kevin Toppenberg wrote: But PRINT NUMDATE(TODAY) would crash if I put this into a M function (i.e. outside Fileman). So I assume that a M function can not call these Fileman custom functions. Correct? I.e, I can't do the following MyFunct(Param1) PRINT NUMDATE(Param1) quit Kevin --- Thurman Pedigo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A function can be used almost anywhere. For instance if you wanted to print numeric date just use the function with date enclosed in (): Like: PRINT NUMDATE(TODAY) Most functions will give you format and use. Probably my two most common functions are NUMDATE and SETDATA. Then you can make your own. SETDATA(FIELD1,FIELD2) sets FIELD1=FIELD2 OR SETDATA(FIELD1,FIELD2+12) and almost any _expression_ you desire can be executed. Functions made me the lazy programmer I am today. Most users think of functions in a print statement. However, they can be used in triggers and almost any place you can specify a field. ...tx/t NAME: NUMDATE// MUMPS CODE: S:X X=$E(X,4,5)_"/"_$E(X,6,7)_"/"_$E(X,2,3) Replace EXPLANATION: DATE IN 'NN/NN/NN' FORMAT// DATE-VALUED: NUMBER OF ARGUMENTS: WORD-PROCESSING: NAME: SETDATA// MUMPS CODE: S X1=X// EXPLANATION: SETS FIRST ARGUMENT EQUAL TO THE SECOND ARGUMENT Replace DATE-VALUED: NUMBER OF ARGUMENTS: 2// WORD-PROCESSING: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardhats- [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kevin Toppenberg Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2005 3:59 PM To: Hardhats Sourceforge Subject: [Hardhats-members] How to evoke Fileman functions. I just stumbled across the concept of creating Fileman functions. These are stored in file "FUNCTION". But I can't figure out how to evoke them. Are they functions that one would use in an input/output transform, or would one use them in creating programs? Thanks Kevin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes Want to be the first software developer in space? Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7393alloc_id=16281op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes Want to be the first software developer in space? Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes!
Re: [Hardhats-members] How to evoke Fileman functions.
Even now, it's not uncommon to define small frequently used functions as inline in C/C++. It has the same effect (the code is expanded inline at compile time) as an alternative to allocating a new stack frame and going through the whole call/return process. Regardless of whether or not this was the motivation for FM functions, it is a benefit. Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] On May 16, 2005, at 8:23 PM, Greg Kreis wrote: The FM functions are evaluated and then used to drive the generation of code, so there isn't an API available. A classic approach would have APIs and pass the parameters to them, but back in the day, code that was executed was many times faster than running a routine, if you could squeeze it all in one or two lines. I don't know that performance was really the reason. There was also the benefit of the code being stored in the DD for reuse through execution.
RE: [Hardhats-members] How to evoke Fileman functions.
A function can be used almost anywhere. For instance if you wanted to print numeric date just use the function with date enclosed in (): Like: PRINT NUMDATE(TODAY) Most functions will give you format and use. Probably my two most common functions are NUMDATE and SETDATA. Then you can make your own. SETDATA(FIELD1,FIELD2) sets FIELD1=FIELD2 OR SETDATA(FIELD1,FIELD2+12) and almost any expression you desire can be executed. Functions made me the lazy programmer I am today. Most users think of functions in a print statement. However, they can be used in triggers and almost any place you can specify a field. ...tx/t NAME: NUMDATE// MUMPS CODE: S:X X=$E(X,4,5)_/_$E(X,6,7)_/_$E(X,2,3) Replace EXPLANATION: DATE IN 'NN/NN/NN' FORMAT// DATE-VALUED: NUMBER OF ARGUMENTS: WORD-PROCESSING: NAME: SETDATA// MUMPS CODE: S X1=X// EXPLANATION: SETS FIRST ARGUMENT EQUAL TO THE SECOND ARGUMENT Replace DATE-VALUED: NUMBER OF ARGUMENTS: 2// WORD-PROCESSING: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardhats- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Toppenberg Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2005 3:59 PM To: Hardhats Sourceforge Subject: [Hardhats-members] How to evoke Fileman functions. I just stumbled across the concept of creating Fileman functions. These are stored in file FUNCTION. But I can't figure out how to evoke them. Are they functions that one would use in an input/output transform, or would one use them in creating programs? Thanks Kevin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes Want to be the first software developer in space? Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7393alloc_id=16281op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes Want to be the first software developer in space? Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7393alloc_id=16281op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] How to evoke Fileman functions.
But PRINT NUMDATE(TODAY) would crash if I put this into a M function (i.e. outside Fileman). So I assume that a M function can not call these Fileman custom functions. Correct? I.e, I can't do the following MyFunct(Param1) PRINT NUMDATE(Param1) quit Kevin --- Thurman Pedigo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A function can be used almost anywhere. For instance if you wanted to print numeric date just use the function with date enclosed in (): Like: PRINT NUMDATE(TODAY) Most functions will give you format and use. Probably my two most common functions are NUMDATE and SETDATA. Then you can make your own. SETDATA(FIELD1,FIELD2) sets FIELD1=FIELD2 OR SETDATA(FIELD1,FIELD2+12) and almost any expression you desire can be executed. Functions made me the lazy programmer I am today. Most users think of functions in a print statement. However, they can be used in triggers and almost any place you can specify a field. ...tx/t NAME: NUMDATE// MUMPS CODE: S:X X=$E(X,4,5)_/_$E(X,6,7)_/_$E(X,2,3) Replace EXPLANATION: DATE IN 'NN/NN/NN' FORMAT// DATE-VALUED: NUMBER OF ARGUMENTS: WORD-PROCESSING: NAME: SETDATA// MUMPS CODE: S X1=X// EXPLANATION: SETS FIRST ARGUMENT EQUAL TO THE SECOND ARGUMENT Replace DATE-VALUED: NUMBER OF ARGUMENTS: 2// WORD-PROCESSING: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardhats- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Toppenberg Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2005 3:59 PM To: Hardhats Sourceforge Subject: [Hardhats-members] How to evoke Fileman functions. I just stumbled across the concept of creating Fileman functions. These are stored in file FUNCTION. But I can't figure out how to evoke them. Are they functions that one would use in an input/output transform, or would one use them in creating programs? Thanks Kevin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes Want to be the first software developer in space? Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7393alloc_id=16281op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes Want to be the first software developer in space? Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7393alloc_id=16281op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes Want to be the first software developer in space? Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7393alloc_id=16281op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] How to evoke Fileman functions.
FM functions are, as the name implies, functions in the FM domain. M functions, on the other hand, are applicable in the M domain. So forget about using the FM functions in M code or M routines. But, they are quite handy in print, sort and input templates and in defining computed fields (all activities in FM). Kevin Toppenberg wrote: But PRINT NUMDATE(TODAY) would crash if I put this into a M function (i.e. outside Fileman). So I assume that a M function can not call these Fileman custom functions. Correct? I.e, I can't do the following MyFunct(Param1) PRINT NUMDATE(Param1) quit Kevin --- Thurman Pedigo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A function can be used almost anywhere. For instance if you wanted to print numeric date just use the function with date enclosed in (): Like: PRINT NUMDATE(TODAY) Most functions will give you format and use. Probably my two most common functions are NUMDATE and SETDATA. Then you can make your own. SETDATA(FIELD1,FIELD2) sets FIELD1=FIELD2 OR SETDATA(FIELD1,FIELD2+12) and almost any _expression_ you desire can be executed. Functions made me the lazy programmer I am today. Most users think of functions in a print statement. However, they can be used in triggers and almost any place you can specify a field. ...tx/t NAME: NUMDATE// MUMPS CODE: S:X X=$E(X,4,5)_"/"_$E(X,6,7)_"/"_$E(X,2,3) Replace EXPLANATION: DATE IN 'NN/NN/NN' FORMAT// DATE-VALUED: NUMBER OF ARGUMENTS: WORD-PROCESSING: NAME: SETDATA// MUMPS CODE: S X1=X// EXPLANATION: SETS FIRST ARGUMENT EQUAL TO THE SECOND ARGUMENT Replace DATE-VALUED: NUMBER OF ARGUMENTS: 2// WORD-PROCESSING: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardhats- [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kevin Toppenberg Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2005 3:59 PM To: Hardhats Sourceforge Subject: [Hardhats-members] How to evoke Fileman functions. I just stumbled across the concept of creating Fileman functions. These are stored in file "FUNCTION". But I can't figure out how to evoke them. Are they functions that one would use in an input/output transform, or would one use them in creating programs? Thanks Kevin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes Want to be the first software developer in space? Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7393alloc_id=16281op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes Want to be the first software developer in space? Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7393alloc_id=16281op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes Want to be the first software developer in space? Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7393alloc_id=16281op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members -- Greg Kreis http://www.PioneerDataSys.com "You are today where your thoughts have brought you, you will be tomorrow where your thoughts take you." (James Lane Allen)
