Re: [Hardhats-members] Learn Mumps
Or at least you don't think you did. Maybe you should find out where your royalties went :) At 02:12 PM 8/18/2005, Greg wrote: It would be a REAL find to get a book from Navap written by Greg Kreis, because I didn't write one... ;-) ;-) --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects Teams * Testing QA Security * Process Improvement Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Learn Mumps
Christoph: I can appreciate your difficulty in both having to understand the MUMPS data management environment as well as the architecture (and its rationale) of VistA. AT UW we have been slowing evolving an Introduction to VistA to use for education of health informatics students in both the Conceptual Content as well as the implementation environment for Electronic Health Records. It takes both to understand the significance of VistA and what to do with it and may be gained at several levels of understanding. If you are interested, I can send you the working documents to see if they are helpful to you. They are still incomplete and complement a lot of technical documentation from both the VA and the World VistA website. Just let me know and I can send them as e-mail attachments. Arden W. Forrey PhD Dept of Restorative Dentistry University of Washington School of Dentistry 206-616-1875 Phone 206-543-7783 FAX On Tue, 16 Aug 2005, Christoph Guenther wrote: Hi All: I am a total newcomer to VistA and Mumps and I am not sure whether this is the right forum to ask my question, but nevertheless... I have recently started to download and install VistA on a Windows XP machine and got stuck somewhere and joined this mailing list to get some advice on how to get unstuck (which I have received, thank you). What bugs me with the installation is that I am just blindly following the installation procedure without actually knowing what is going on. I have been following the various threads in this list for a while and was wondering whether you guys can give me some advice on what the best resources are to get my head around what is going on inside of VistA? Obviously, I know about the WorldVista and HardHats websites. I am not at all averse to learning Mumps if that is the best way to proceed. I tried to find some books online on the subject but every book I saw seemed very old. What recommendations can anyone give me about resources that will help me get up to speed on VistA and/or Mumps. I have programmed before - in Fortran (a long time ago), in C, and in Perl. I have also dabbled in C++ and Java. Of course, any advice is greatly appreciated. Best regards, Christoph --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects Teams * Testing QA Security * Process Improvement Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects Teams * Testing QA Security * Process Improvement Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Learn Mumps
Christoph; Geting any of the old books will do just fine. The VistA model was written to the Standard MUMPS that these books describe. Very little else has been added. What is not standard is almost exclusively in the Kernel and not in the applications. So learning the basics from these early books is adequate to get you started. By the way, Ed deMoel's book is probably the most recent and certainly most up to date. If you can find Richard Davis' or Greg Kreis' books from Navap, they would be real finds. - Original Message - From: Christoph Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 10:23 AM Subject: [Hardhats-members] Learn Mumps Hi All: I am a total newcomer to VistA and Mumps and I am not sure whether this is the right forum to ask my question, but nevertheless... I have recently started to download and install VistA on a Windows XP machine and got stuck somewhere and joined this mailing list to get some advice on how to get unstuck (which I have received, thank you). What bugs me with the installation is that I am just blindly following the installation procedure without actually knowing what is going on. I have been following the various threads in this list for a while and was wondering whether you guys can give me some advice on what the best resources are to get my head around what is going on inside of VistA? Obviously, I know about the WorldVista and HardHats websites. I am not at all averse to learning Mumps if that is the best way to proceed. I tried to find some books online on the subject but every book I saw seemed very old. What recommendations can anyone give me about resources that will help me get up to speed on VistA and/or Mumps. I have programmed before - in Fortran (a long time ago), in C, and in Perl. I have also dabbled in C++ and Java. Of course, any advice is greatly appreciated. Best regards, Christoph --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects Teams * Testing QA Security * Process Improvement Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects Teams * Testing QA Security * Process Improvement Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
