Re: [hlds_linux] L4D/L4D2 + NAT
Hello, I haven't tried a LAN game with a dedicated server, but we are able to host LAN-only games on a client just fine. As long as the Steam accounts are friends of each other, if one client starts a game the others will see it. It seems to work fine for both L4D and L4D2 in our computer labs, which are on a LAN with 10.x.x.x IP addresses. - Dave - Original Message - From: Shane Arnold clontar...@iinet.net.au Date: Friday, November 27, 2009 1:48 am Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] L4D/L4D2 + NAT To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Hi All (VALVe Developers (Matchmaking)), Wondering if this is being looked at at all? After sorting out network issues it still definitely seems that there is something in the matchmaking/lobby code that plays havoc on LAN. I've been able to get other srcds-based servers like Team Fortress 2 to work flawlessly, so I am wondering what the problem is with L4D/L4D2? Are VALVe prepared to say that it is now impossible to run and connect to a LAN server? Is anybody else able to succesfully connect to a LAN server behind a NAT? Beginning to think it's deliberately crippled... Shane Arnold wrote: Also, with further testing, if I force the server to lan (sv_lan 1 on startup) this issue is gone altogether, which leads me to believe that L4D2 is still not playing nicely with NAT lans. Shane Arnold wrote: Steam/VAC does it's thing and rejects validation. I've given up on it for the mean time. The reason it confuses me is people can host local servers (via the windows client) using a modified AppID and it seems to work fine. Y Smith wrote: What happens if you leave the server's AppID and just change the clients'? -Original Message- From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Shane Arnold Sent: Wednesday, 18 November 2009 1:06 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] L4D2 + NAT I should probably mention this does not occur on a vanilla server. This is happening on a server I have modified the AppID on to 510. Please don't tell me the AppID is breaking my server :( Shane Arnold wrote: Hi All, Having issues with connections to a local NAT server. When connecting to it locally on a local IP it should work right? - Reservation cookie 18401f4925df000: reason ReplyReservationRequest Host_NewGame Host_NewGame on map c1m1_hotel ConVarRef room_type doesn't point to an existing ConVar Executing dedicated server config file heaps of spam Commentary: Loading commentary data from maps/c1m1_hotel_commentary.txt. Initializing Director's script [S_API FAIL] SteamAPI_Init() failed; unable to update local steamclient. Continuing with current version anyway. Adding master server 72.165.61.136:27011 Adding master server 72.165.61.136:27014 Connection to Steam servers successful. VAC secure mode is activated. Connection on client then fails with error Session is no longer available. In the client console, I get; ] connect 172.16.1.10:27015 Connecting to public(172.16.1.10:27015) Sending UDP connect to public IP 172.16.1.10:27015 Server using 'public' lobbies, requiring pw no, lobby id 0 RememberIPAddressForLobby: lobby 0 from address 172.16.1.10:27015 Server approved grace request... Retrying connection to 172.16.1.10:27015, server requires lobby reservation but is unreserved. Received game details information from 172.16.1.10:27015... Then nothing... after a while (I am assuming a timeout period) I get the following happening in server console; Server waking up from hibernation spam - Reservation cookie 0: reason reserved(yes), clients(no), reservationexpires(0.00) Server is hibernating Can someone please tell me what I am doing wrong. How can a client not connect to a simple server on the same LAN? My server startup line is; ./srcds_linux -game left4dead2 +map c1m1_hotel It's doing my head in. I suspect this is also meaning clients are unable to connect to my external IP for the same reason... ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4615 (20091117) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http
Re: [hlds_linux] L4D/L4D2 + NAT
The problem isn't lan games. The problem is hosting a dedicated server behind a NAT firewall. Unfortunately you have missed the point entirely. David Parker wrote: Hello, I haven't tried a LAN game with a dedicated server, but we are able to host LAN-only games on a client just fine. As long as the Steam accounts are friends of each other, if one client starts a game the others will see it. It seems to work fine for both L4D and L4D2 in our computer labs, which are on a LAN with 10.x.x.x IP addresses. - Dave - Original Message - From: Shane Arnold clontar...@iinet.net.au Date: Friday, November 27, 2009 1:48 am Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] L4D/L4D2 + NAT To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Hi All (VALVe Developers (Matchmaking)), Wondering if this is being looked at at all? After sorting out network issues it still definitely seems that there is something in the matchmaking/lobby code that plays havoc on LAN. I've been able to get other srcds-based servers like Team Fortress 2 to work flawlessly, so I am wondering what the problem is with L4D/L4D2? Are VALVe prepared to say that it is now impossible to run and connect to a LAN server? Is anybody else able to succesfully connect to a LAN server behind a NAT? Beginning to think it's deliberately crippled... Shane Arnold wrote: Also, with further testing, if I force the server to lan (sv_lan 1 on startup) this issue is gone altogether, which leads me to believe that L4D2 is still not playing nicely with NAT lans. Shane Arnold wrote: Steam/VAC does it's thing and rejects validation. I've given up on it for the mean time. The reason it confuses me is people can host local servers (via the windows client) using a modified AppID and it seems to work fine. Y Smith wrote: What happens if you leave the server's AppID and just change the clients'? -Original Message- From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Shane Arnold Sent: Wednesday, 18 November 2009 1:06 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] L4D2 + NAT I should probably mention this does not occur on a vanilla server. This is happening on a server I have modified the AppID on to 510. Please don't tell me the AppID is breaking my server :( Shane Arnold wrote: Hi All, Having issues with connections to a local NAT server. When connecting to it locally on a local IP it should work right? - Reservation cookie 18401f4925df000: reason ReplyReservationRequest Host_NewGame Host_NewGame on map c1m1_hotel ConVarRef room_type doesn't point to an existing ConVar Executing dedicated server config file heaps of spam Commentary: Loading commentary data from maps/c1m1_hotel_commentary.txt. Initializing Director's script [S_API FAIL] SteamAPI_Init() failed; unable to update local steamclient. Continuing with current version anyway. Adding master server 72.165.61.136:27011 Adding master server 72.165.61.136:27014 Connection to Steam servers successful. VAC secure mode is activated. Connection on client then fails with error Session is no longer available. In the client console, I get; ] connect 172.16.1.10:27015 Connecting to public(172.16.1.10:27015) Sending UDP connect to public IP 172.16.1.10:27015 Server using 'public' lobbies, requiring pw no, lobby id 0 RememberIPAddressForLobby: lobby 0 from address 172.16.1.10:27015 Server approved grace request... Retrying connection to 172.16.1.10:27015, server requires lobby reservation but is unreserved. Received game details information from 172.16.1.10:27015... Then nothing... after a while (I am assuming a timeout period) I get the following happening in server console; Server waking up from hibernation spam - Reservation cookie 0: reason reserved(yes), clients(no), reservationexpires(0.00) Server is hibernating Can someone please tell me what I am doing wrong. How can a client not connect to a simple server on the same LAN? My server startup line is; ./srcds_linux -game left4dead2 +map c1m1_hotel It's doing my head in. I suspect this is also meaning clients are unable to connect to my external IP for the same reason... ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives
Re: [hlds_linux] L4D/L4D2 + NAT
Hi All (VALVe Developers (Matchmaking)), Wondering if this is being looked at at all? After sorting out network issues it still definitely seems that there is something in the matchmaking/lobby code that plays havoc on LAN. I've been able to get other srcds-based servers like Team Fortress 2 to work flawlessly, so I am wondering what the problem is with L4D/L4D2? Are VALVe prepared to say that it is now impossible to run and connect to a LAN server? Is anybody else able to succesfully connect to a LAN server behind a NAT? Beginning to think it's deliberately crippled... Shane Arnold wrote: Also, with further testing, if I force the server to lan (sv_lan 1 on startup) this issue is gone altogether, which leads me to believe that L4D2 is still not playing nicely with NAT lans. Shane Arnold wrote: Steam/VAC does it's thing and rejects validation. I've given up on it for the mean time. The reason it confuses me is people can host local servers (via the windows client) using a modified AppID and it seems to work fine. Y Smith wrote: What happens if you leave the server's AppID and just change the clients'? -Original Message- From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Shane Arnold Sent: Wednesday, 18 November 2009 1:06 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] L4D2 + NAT I should probably mention this does not occur on a vanilla server. This is happening on a server I have modified the AppID on to 510. Please don't tell me the AppID is breaking my server :( Shane Arnold wrote: Hi All, Having issues with connections to a local NAT server. When connecting to it locally on a local IP it should work right? - Reservation cookie 18401f4925df000: reason ReplyReservationRequest Host_NewGame Host_NewGame on map c1m1_hotel ConVarRef room_type doesn't point to an existing ConVar Executing dedicated server config file heaps of spam Commentary: Loading commentary data from maps/c1m1_hotel_commentary.txt. Initializing Director's script [S_API FAIL] SteamAPI_Init() failed; unable to update local steamclient. Continuing with current version anyway. Adding master server 72.165.61.136:27011 Adding master server 72.165.61.136:27014 Connection to Steam servers successful. VAC secure mode is activated. Connection on client then fails with error Session is no longer available. In the client console, I get; ] connect 172.16.1.10:27015 Connecting to public(172.16.1.10:27015) Sending UDP connect to public IP 172.16.1.10:27015 Server using 'public' lobbies, requiring pw no, lobby id 0 RememberIPAddressForLobby: lobby 0 from address 172.16.1.10:27015 Server approved grace request... Retrying connection to 172.16.1.10:27015, server requires lobby reservation but is unreserved. Received game details information from 172.16.1.10:27015... Then nothing... after a while (I am assuming a timeout period) I get the following happening in server console; Server waking up from hibernation spam - Reservation cookie 0: reason reserved(yes), clients(no), reservationexpires(0.00) Server is hibernating Can someone please tell me what I am doing wrong. How can a client not connect to a simple server on the same LAN? My server startup line is; ./srcds_linux -game left4dead2 +map c1m1_hotel It's doing my head in. I suspect this is also meaning clients are unable to connect to my external IP for the same reason... ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4615 (20091117) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4615 (20091117) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit:
