Re: [hlds_linux] TF2 and CSS not working since the last update - general problem
Whoever does QA for Valve needs their job evaluated. I can agree with that! What is the point of them making BETA game releases to test things with if they do releases that break the production builds? Releases for anything that isn't a beta game should be stable builds and nothing more. Please stop breaking things for the real games. Break the beta all you wish. On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 5:28 PM, Ryan Morrison ryan.morriso...@gmail.comwrote: Probably off-topic, but Valve needs better testing overall. Every second patch breaks TF2 on Mac OS X (maps crashing on load, game crashing on load, etc). It's clear Valve doesn't test anything before release. Whoever does QA for Valve needs their job evaluated. On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 4:13 PM, James Botting bottswan...@googlemail.com wrote: My bad. I'm sure at this point that Valve are aware of the issue. Let's just hope for some better testing next time. And a quick fix for those who don't know about the workaround. On 4 Jul 2011, at 21:10, Marco Padovan e...@evcz.tk wrote: I do... I'm not discussing about the workaround... I'm just asking if they are aware of the problem and if we should expect similar downtimes again in future :| Il 04/07/2011 22:03, James Botting ha scritto: You have done the vphysics.so patch, right? On 4 Jul 2011, at 21:00, Marco Padovan e...@evcz.tk wrote: So... 3 days has passed since the last pre-weekend update that broke all of our servers! tf2 crashing on changelevel (all the tf2 servers, not just mine) and css crashing even while starting. What is going on? How can hope to have a decent amount of servers online to take care of the massive influx of users with such an update policy? What are all the new users having troubles joining servers thinking about tf2? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TF2 and CSS not working since the last update - general problem
I'm more inclined to question if there is somebody who does QA for Valve in the first place. On 05/07/2011, at 4:14 PM, E3pO wrote: Whoever does QA for Valve needs their job evaluated. I can agree with that! What is the point of them making BETA game releases to test things with if they do releases that break the production builds? Releases for anything that isn't a beta game should be stable builds and nothing more. Please stop breaking things for the real games. Break the beta all you wish. On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 5:28 PM, Ryan Morrison ryan.morriso...@gmail.comwrote: Probably off-topic, but Valve needs better testing overall. Every second patch breaks TF2 on Mac OS X (maps crashing on load, game crashing on load, etc). It's clear Valve doesn't test anything before release. Whoever does QA for Valve needs their job evaluated. On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 4:13 PM, James Botting bottswan...@googlemail.com wrote: My bad. I'm sure at this point that Valve are aware of the issue. Let's just hope for some better testing next time. And a quick fix for those who don't know about the workaround. On 4 Jul 2011, at 21:10, Marco Padovan e...@evcz.tk wrote: I do... I'm not discussing about the workaround... I'm just asking if they are aware of the problem and if we should expect similar downtimes again in future :| Il 04/07/2011 22:03, James Botting ha scritto: You have done the vphysics.so patch, right? On 4 Jul 2011, at 21:00, Marco Padovan e...@evcz.tk wrote: So... 3 days has passed since the last pre-weekend update that broke all of our servers! tf2 crashing on changelevel (all the tf2 servers, not just mine) and css crashing even while starting. What is going on? How can hope to have a decent amount of servers online to take care of the massive influx of users with such an update policy? What are all the new users having troubles joining servers thinking about tf2? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TF2 and CSS not working since the last update - general problem
VALVe keeps things exciting, be it a bit annoying every now and then, but it's never boring with their updates around. :D From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of E3pO [e...@wmclan.net] Sent: 05 July 2011 08:14 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] TF2 and CSS not working since the last update - general problem Whoever does QA for Valve needs their job evaluated. I can agree with that! What is the point of them making BETA game releases to test things with if they do releases that break the production builds? Releases for anything that isn't a beta game should be stable builds and nothing more. Please stop breaking things for the real games. Break the beta all you wish. On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 5:28 PM, Ryan Morrison ryan.morriso...@gmail.comwrote: Probably off-topic, but Valve needs better testing overall. Every second patch breaks TF2 on Mac OS X (maps crashing on load, game crashing on load, etc). It's clear Valve doesn't test anything before release. Whoever does QA for Valve needs their job evaluated. On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 4:13 PM, James Botting bottswan...@googlemail.com wrote: My bad. I'm sure at this point that Valve are aware of the issue. Let's just hope for some better testing next time. And a quick fix for those who don't know about the workaround. On 4 Jul 2011, at 21:10, Marco Padovan e...@evcz.tk wrote: I do... I'm not discussing about the workaround... I'm just asking if they are aware of the problem and if we should expect similar downtimes again in future :| Il 04/07/2011 22:03, James Botting ha scritto: You have done the vphysics.so patch, right? On 4 Jul 2011, at 21:00, Marco Padovan e...@evcz.tk wrote: So... 3 days has passed since the last pre-weekend update that broke all of our servers! tf2 crashing on changelevel (all the tf2 servers, not just mine) and css crashing even while starting. What is going on? How can hope to have a decent amount of servers online to take care of the massive influx of users with such an update policy? What are all the new users having troubles joining servers thinking about tf2? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] TF2 and CSS not working since the last update - general problem
So... 3 days has passed since the last pre-weekend update that broke all of our servers! tf2 crashing on changelevel (all the tf2 servers, not just mine) and css crashing even while starting. What is going on? How can hope to have a decent amount of servers online to take care of the massive influx of users with such an update policy? What are all the new users having troubles joining servers thinking about tf2? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TF2 and CSS not working since the last update - general problem
You have done the vphysics.so patch, right? On 4 Jul 2011, at 21:00, Marco Padovan e...@evcz.tk wrote: So... 3 days has passed since the last pre-weekend update that broke all of our servers! tf2 crashing on changelevel (all the tf2 servers, not just mine) and css crashing even while starting. What is going on? How can hope to have a decent amount of servers online to take care of the massive influx of users with such an update policy? What are all the new users having troubles joining servers thinking about tf2? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TF2 and CSS not working since the last update - general problem
I do... I'm not discussing about the workaround... I'm just asking if they are aware of the problem and if we should expect similar downtimes again in future :| Il 04/07/2011 22:03, James Botting ha scritto: You have done the vphysics.so patch, right? On 4 Jul 2011, at 21:00, Marco Padovan e...@evcz.tk wrote: So... 3 days has passed since the last pre-weekend update that broke all of our servers! tf2 crashing on changelevel (all the tf2 servers, not just mine) and css crashing even while starting. What is going on? How can hope to have a decent amount of servers online to take care of the massive influx of users with such an update policy? What are all the new users having troubles joining servers thinking about tf2? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TF2 and CSS not working since the last update - general problem
No problems here! Have you updated to the latest sourcemod and metamod source? -- //Rikard 'Zapy' Bremark ComHem AB - http://www.comhem.se Warzone.nu - http://www.warzone.nu Warzone Short Valley rikard.brem...@warzone.nu z...@warzone.nu On 2011-07-04 21:59, Marco Padovan wrote: So... 3 days has passed since the last pre-weekend update that broke all of our servers! tf2 crashing on changelevel (all the tf2 servers, not just mine) and css crashing even while starting. What is going on? How can hope to have a decent amount of servers online to take care of the massive influx of users with such an update policy? What are all the new users having troubles joining servers thinking about tf2? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TF2 and CSS not working since the last update - general problem
My bad. I'm sure at this point that Valve are aware of the issue. Let's just hope for some better testing next time. And a quick fix for those who don't know about the workaround. On 4 Jul 2011, at 21:10, Marco Padovan e...@evcz.tk wrote: I do... I'm not discussing about the workaround... I'm just asking if they are aware of the problem and if we should expect similar downtimes again in future :| Il 04/07/2011 22:03, James Botting ha scritto: You have done the vphysics.so patch, right? On 4 Jul 2011, at 21:00, Marco Padovan e...@evcz.tk wrote: So... 3 days has passed since the last pre-weekend update that broke all of our servers! tf2 crashing on changelevel (all the tf2 servers, not just mine) and css crashing even while starting. What is going on? How can hope to have a decent amount of servers online to take care of the massive influx of users with such an update policy? What are all the new users having troubles joining servers thinking about tf2? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TF2 and CSS not working since the last update - general problem
Personally, I've shut down my servers for the week end and I'll resume trying to get them working once the patch is out, or maybe I won't. I don't know if users on Windows are having as much problems as we do but this is not acceptable. I'm used to working with stable server applications like httpd, bind, mysql, exim, postfix and the list goes on. While Valve is a great company that I admire in so many ways, their handling of dedicated servers is a bad joke. It was my hope with the TF2 Beta that we would get to test all patches prior to release in the stable branch but that's obviously not the point of the beta. I mean, Valve have the chance to have so many dedicated administrators out there who would work with them to make sure everything is stable before releasing a patch but they keep doing things as if they were a lone programmer in a basement, running updates and worrying about the bugs as they happen. -- Ravnox Quoting Marco Padovan e...@evcz.tk: So... 3 days has passed since the last pre-weekend update that broke all of our servers! tf2 crashing on changelevel (all the tf2 servers, not just mine) and css crashing even while starting. What is going on? How can hope to have a decent amount of servers online to take care of the massive influx of users with such an update policy? What are all the new users having troubles joining servers thinking about tf2? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TF2 and CSS not working since the last update - general problem
Probably off-topic, but Valve needs better testing overall. Every second patch breaks TF2 on Mac OS X (maps crashing on load, game crashing on load, etc). It's clear Valve doesn't test anything before release. Whoever does QA for Valve needs their job evaluated. On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 4:13 PM, James Botting bottswan...@googlemail.comwrote: My bad. I'm sure at this point that Valve are aware of the issue. Let's just hope for some better testing next time. And a quick fix for those who don't know about the workaround. On 4 Jul 2011, at 21:10, Marco Padovan e...@evcz.tk wrote: I do... I'm not discussing about the workaround... I'm just asking if they are aware of the problem and if we should expect similar downtimes again in future :| Il 04/07/2011 22:03, James Botting ha scritto: You have done the vphysics.so patch, right? On 4 Jul 2011, at 21:00, Marco Padovan e...@evcz.tk wrote: So... 3 days has passed since the last pre-weekend update that broke all of our servers! tf2 crashing on changelevel (all the tf2 servers, not just mine) and css crashing even while starting. What is going on? How can hope to have a decent amount of servers online to take care of the massive influx of users with such an update policy? What are all the new users having troubles joining servers thinking about tf2? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
