Re: IPLINFO Question

2007-05-23 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
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I don't have direct access to the VM system. Just my z/OS image.

If you have full access to your z/OS system then you can issue CP
commands and retrieve the responses. Some assembly required.
 
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Re: IPLINFO Question

2007-05-22 Thread Edward Jaffe

Schiradin,Roland HG-Dir itb-db/dc wrote:
SHOWuOS use three methods to get the info. 


1. Like IPLINFO does (unauth)
2. SYSEVENT QVS (auth)
3. SYSEVENT REQLPDAT (auth)
  


SYSEVENT QVS is an unauthorized interface.

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IPLINFO Question

2007-05-21 Thread Kopischke, David G.
Sorry to clutter the list with this, but it might be useful for others:

We just got through with a DR test. During this test, management wanted
to emulate as close as possible
the resources we would have available at the DR hotsite based on the
current contract with a DR service
provider.

To do this, the service provider was to limit CPU available to our z/OS
image. It looked like they did this,
but when we execute Mark Zelden's fine freeware IPLINFO EXEC, the
results appear to be for the entire
complex and not just for our image under VM. Is this correct ??? Is
there a better way to get a MIPS or
MSU calculation from just our single z/OS image ???



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Re: IPLINFO Question

2007-05-21 Thread Neubert, Kevin (DIS)
You could look at the user directory for the primary address space size,
but this can change-#CP DEFINE STORAGE size.  From the guest
representing your system #CP QUERY VIRTUAL STORAGE or from another guest
#CP INDICATE USER userid.

Regards,

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Sorry to clutter the list with this, but it might be useful for others:

We just got through with a DR test. During this test, management wanted
to emulate as close as possible
the resources we would have available at the DR hotsite based on the
current contract with a DR service
provider.

To do this, the service provider was to limit CPU available to our z/OS
image. It looked like they did this,
but when we execute Mark Zelden's fine freeware IPLINFO EXEC, the
results appear to be for the entire
complex and not just for our image under VM. Is this correct ??? Is
there a better way to get a MIPS or
MSU calculation from just our single z/OS image ???




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Re: IPLINFO Question

2007-05-21 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 21 May 2007 14:06:18 -0600, Kopischke, David G.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Sorry to clutter the list with this, but it might be useful for others:

We just got through with a DR test. During this test, management wanted
to emulate as close as possible
the resources we would have available at the DR hotsite based on the
current contract with a DR service
provider.

To do this, the service provider was to limit CPU available to our z/OS
image. It looked like they did this,
but when we execute Mark Zelden's fine freeware IPLINFO EXEC, the
results appear to be for the entire
complex and not just for our image under VM. Is this correct ??? Is
there a better way to get a MIPS or
MSU calculation from just our single z/OS image ???



My IPLINFO exec is only a rough guestimate based on the SU value in the
RMCT which it converts to SUs per second:

  The approximate total MIPS (SUs/SEC / 48.5 * # general CPUs)

This is the best I was able to do with (unauthorized) rexx code at the
time I added that code.  It also assumes a non-capped CPU.

The way to do this since z/OS R1 (+ a 64-bit machine) is to use
SYSEVENT QVS.   ShowMVS does that.  So you should be able
to use ShowMVS to get what you want.  See file 492 of the
CBT tape - http://www.cbttape.org

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Re: IPLINFO Question

2007-05-21 Thread Schiradin,Roland HG-Dir itb-db/dc
SHOWuOS use three methods to get the info. 

1. Like IPLINFO does (unauth)
2. SYSEVENT QVS (auth)
3. SYSEVENT REQLPDAT (auth)

Sample with one zIIP

SRM MIPS:  923.560  (SU/sec) / 48.5 No of CPU: 5 zAAP/zIIP excl. 

MSU QVS:  CEC: 126 IMG: 8 
  
REQLPDAT: Flags: C0  Defined capacity Capdata valid   
  CEC-Capacity:   126 
  LPAR: LP0101Capacity: 8 
  Factor  :  2286 
  Weight  :277344 # weight acc: 30816 
  Service : 3 
  Time uncap  :71 capped  : 0 


Roland


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On Mon, 21 May 2007 14:06:18 -0600, Kopischke, David G. 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Sorry to clutter the list with this, but it might be useful for others:

We just got through with a DR test. During this test, 
management wanted 
to emulate as close as possible the resources we would have available 
at the DR hotsite based on the current contract with a DR service
provider.

To do this, the service provider was to limit CPU available to 
our z/OS 
image. It looked like they did this, but when we execute Mark Zelden's 
fine freeware IPLINFO EXEC, the results appear to be for the entire
complex and not just for our image under VM. Is this correct ??? Is
there a better way to get a MIPS or
MSU calculation from just our single z/OS image ???



My IPLINFO exec is only a rough guestimate based on the SU 
value in the RMCT which it converts to SUs per second:

  The approximate total MIPS (SUs/SEC / 48.5 * # general CPUs)

This is the best I was able to do with (unauthorized) rexx code 
at the time I added that code.  It also assumes a non-capped CPU.

The way to do this since z/OS R1 (+ a 64-bit machine) is to use
SYSEVENT QVS.   ShowMVS does that.  So you should be able
to use ShowMVS to get what you want.  See file 492 of the
CBT tape - http://www.cbttape.org

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Re: IPLINFO Question

2007-05-21 Thread Dave Kopischke
On Mon, 21 May 2007 13:32:55 -0700, Neubert, Kevin (DIS) wrote:

You could look at the user directory for the primary address space size,
but this can change-#CP DEFINE STORAGE size.  From the guest
representing your system #CP QUERY VIRTUAL STORAGE or from another 
guest
#CP INDICATE USER userid.


I don't have direct access to the VM system. Just my z/OS image.

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Re: IPLINFO Question

2007-05-21 Thread Dave Kopischke
On Mon, 21 May 2007 15:59:21 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote:


My IPLINFO exec is only a rough guestimate based on the SU value in the
RMCT which it converts to SUs per second:

  The approximate total MIPS (SUs/SEC / 48.5 * # general CPUs)

This is the best I was able to do with (unauthorized) rexx code at the
time I added that code.  It also assumes a non-capped CPU.

The way to do this since z/OS R1 (+ a 64-bit machine) is to use
SYSEVENT QVS.   ShowMVS does that.  So you should be able
to use ShowMVS to get what you want.  See file 492 of the
CBT tape - http://www.cbttape.org


This is not a complaint. A rough guesstimate is all I'm looking for. I hadn't 
really cared what my image was getting previous to this test. Now our 
management wants to operate under the constraints of our contract and I 
thought I'd take a look and see what we were getting.

So, if VM defines 4 virtual CPUs to our image, that's what the image sees so 
that skews the approximation. So I could just undo the virtual CPU over 
allocation by dividing by 4 ??? I'm pretty good with this new math.

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