SAS if used for RACF (was reportingRE: DFSORT date question)

2008-10-24 Thread Tony B.
If the OP's issue is I hear we're losing SAS and I really want it to help
with RACF reporting there are alternatives that are without incremental
cost.

It's possible to develop a complete reporting system based on IRRDBU00
output using DF/SORT, ICE, etc.  It's not difficult programming (since I, a
mediocre programmer, did it) once an understanding of the record layouts is
gained.  Learning the content of RACF Macros and Interfaces is essential,
regardless of the methods employed.

I used to use SAS because I'd merge some record types to produce some nice
composite reports.  I gave that up when DF/SORT introduced splice several
years ago.

A previous post mentioned formatting into PDF.  IIRC there are some CBT
tools that do that, once a dataset is created. Perhaps someone could
confirm??  

Is DB2 an option?  If so, SYS1.SAMPLIB is all you need.
How about RACF add-ons from the usual OEM suspects?  Expensive to be sure,
but how important is it to obtains results?







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Ted MacNEIL wrote:

At the last site I worked at, I managed to justify SAS only because SAS
Institute intsituted sub-capacity licensing (finally).

When we were dropping SAS, I asked local SAS staff about sub-capacity 
licensing. I got that 'deer eyes in the spotlight' expression.

They even tried to rub a more expensive data warehouse thing onto me when 
they finally saw they couldn't stop me from dropping SAS 
BASE/ADABAS/DB2/CONNECT.

I will not even start the thing that software vendors hijack your hardware
and 
CPU upgrades to raise their fees. 

Ok, enough vendor bashing and ranting about vendors.

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: SAS if used for RACF (was reportingRE: DFSORT date question)

2008-10-24 Thread Thomas Kern
There is a program to convert line-mode reports to PDFs. I have used the VM
version for quite a while and it is nice. 

http://www.homerow.net/rexx/txt2pdf.htm

/Tom Kern


On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:22:46 -0500, Tony B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

If the OP's issue is I hear we're losing SAS and I really want it to help
with RACF reporting there are alternatives that are without incremental
cost.

It's possible to develop a complete reporting system based on IRRDBU00
output using DF/SORT, ICE, etc.  It's not difficult programming (since I, a
mediocre programmer, did it) once an understanding of the record layouts is
gained.  Learning the content of RACF Macros and Interfaces is essential,
regardless of the methods employed.

I used to use SAS because I'd merge some record types to produce some nice
composite reports.  I gave that up when DF/SORT introduced splice several
years ago.

A previous post mentioned formatting into PDF.  IIRC there are some CBT
tools that do that, once a dataset is created. Perhaps someone could
confirm??

Is DB2 an option?  If so, SYS1.SAMPLIB is all you need.
How about RACF add-ons from the usual OEM suspects?  Expensive to be sure,
but how important is it to obtains results?







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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Elardus Engelbrecht
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 11:52 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: DFSORT date question

Ted MacNEIL wrote:

At the last site I worked at, I managed to justify SAS only because SAS
Institute intsituted sub-capacity licensing (finally).

When we were dropping SAS, I asked local SAS staff about sub-capacity
licensing. I got that 'deer eyes in the spotlight' expression.

They even tried to rub a more expensive data warehouse thing onto me when
they finally saw they couldn't stop me from dropping SAS
BASE/ADABAS/DB2/CONNECT.

I will not even start the thing that software vendors hijack your hardware
and
CPU upgrades to raise their fees.

Ok, enough vendor bashing and ranting about vendors.

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: SAS if used for RACF (was reportingRE: DFSORT date question)

2008-10-24 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 10/24/2008 12:33:27 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

There is a program to convert line-mode reports to PDFs. I have used  the VM
version for quite a while and it is nice. 



Lionel's XMITIP has a version of TXT2PDF  included. One of the samples shows 
'greenbar reports' like they came off the  N1. If you management is anti-IBM 
save yourself some grief and use a different  color!





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Re: SAS if used for RACF (was reportingRE: DFSORT date question)

2008-10-24 Thread Thomas Kern
It is the same program, just packaged separately. If you want to email your
report with or without PDFifying it, XMITIP is fantastic.
 
/Tom Kern


On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:10:23 EDT, Ed Finnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lionel's XMITIP has a version of TXT2PDF  included. One of the samples shows 
'greenbar reports' like they came off the  N1. If you management is anti-IBM 
save yourself some grief and use a different  color!


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Re: SAS if used for RACF (was reportingRE: DFSORT date question)

2008-10-24 Thread Scott Ford
We develop software on a small box, no complaints from me buckaroo

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Subject: Re: SAS if used for RACF (was reportingRE: DFSORT date question)

 
In a message dated 10/24/2008 12:33:27 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

There is a program to convert line-mode reports to PDFs. I have used  the VM
version for quite a while and it is nice. 



Lionel's XMITIP has a version of TXT2PDF  included. One of the samples shows

'greenbar reports' like they came off the  N1. If you management is anti-IBM

save yourself some grief and use a different  color!





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