Re: [PHP-DEV] Deadline for 7.0; was: [RFC][Discussion] In Operator

2015-02-21 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
Hi all,

On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 3:28 AM, Adam Harvey ahar...@php.net wrote:

 On 20 February 2015 at 04:54, Niklas Keller m...@kelunik.com wrote:
  Question: The timline says Line up any remaining RFCs that target PHP
  7.0., does that mean RFCs have to
  start voting on Mar 15 or should the vote end there?

 My interpretation was that votes had to be concluded on or before
 March 15 to be included in 7.0, but that is kind of ambiguous, now you
 mention it.


I think we had discussion about self contained RFC that will not affect
other parts. Self contained RFC like adding new function that does not
affects others is allowed.

Am I correct?

Regards,

P.S. Since your RFC is language modification, it's not a self contained RFC.

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[PHP-DEV] Deadline for 7.0; was: [RFC][Discussion] In Operator

2015-02-20 Thread Adam Harvey
On 20 February 2015 at 04:54, Niklas Keller m...@kelunik.com wrote:
 Question: The timline says Line up any remaining RFCs that target PHP
 7.0., does that mean RFCs have to
 start voting on Mar 15 or should the vote end there?

My interpretation was that votes had to be concluded on or before
March 15 to be included in 7.0, but that is kind of ambiguous, now you
mention it.

Thoughts, fellow Internaleers?

Adam

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RE: [PHP-DEV] Deadline for 7.0; was: [RFC][Discussion] In Operator

2015-02-20 Thread François Laupretre
Hi Adam,

I would say that vote can *start*by March 15, as RFC is not supposed to evolve 
after vote starts, hence 'feature freeze', but I have a personal interest there 
because it would allow to vote on STH after people have enough time to compare 
concurrent proposals, if there are. Otherwise, any work on alternate 
proposal(s) can stop now, as it is too late to compete.

Regards

François

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 Objet : [PHP-DEV] Deadline for 7.0; was: [RFC][Discussion] In Operator
 
 On 20 February 2015 at 04:54, Niklas Keller m...@kelunik.com wrote:
  Question: The timline says Line up any remaining RFCs that target PHP
  7.0., does that mean RFCs have to
  start voting on Mar 15 or should the vote end there?
 
 My interpretation was that votes had to be concluded on or before
 March 15 to be included in 7.0, but that is kind of ambiguous, now you
 mention it.
 
 Thoughts, fellow Internaleers?
 
 Adam
 
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Re: [PHP-DEV] Deadline for 7.0; was: [RFC][Discussion] In Operator

2015-02-20 Thread Adam Harvey
(Please don't top post!)

On 20 February 2015 at 11:31, François Laupretre franc...@php.net wrote:
 My interpretation was that votes had to be concluded on or before
 March 15 to be included in 7.0, but that is kind of ambiguous, now you
 mention it.

 I would say that vote can *start*by March 15, as RFC is not supposed to 
 evolve after vote starts, hence 'feature freeze', but I have a personal 
 interest there because it would allow to vote on STH after people have enough 
 time to compare concurrent proposals, if there are. Otherwise, any work on 
 alternate proposal(s) can stop now, as it is too late to compete.

Just to be clear: if voting has to be finished by March 15, then
working backwards, the last date a new RFC can be submitted is this
Sunday:

- RFC discussion period starts: February 22
- RFC discussion period ends: March 8 (given the minimum of 2 weeks)
- RFC voting period starts: March 8
- RFC voting period ends: March 15 (given the minimum of 1 week)

Obviously those dates get shifted forward a week (so the last date for
a new RFC is March 1) if it's just that voting has to start by the
15th.

Would welcome other thoughts.

Adam

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