Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

[Jean Menzies]

Hi Brian,

Yes, I renamed the normal.dotm template, and also did a repair on Office 
365. I tried changing the footer style, but it wouldn't accept a change that 
way from within the edit field of the style. I was able to change its font 
size, so changes can be made, though.


You guys have given me excellent advice, but so far I haven't been able to 
resolve this. The good thing is that it works for you, so hopefully I can 
fix this. I will get a sighted person to look at the screen as well, just in 
case. Possibly, it might be an Office Word 365 thing as well.


I'll keep trying things.

Thanks.

Jean

-Original Message- 
From: Brian Lee

Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 8:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Hello again Jean,

Another thought is that if some of the styles are messed up, they are based 
on the normal template.  You could rename the normal.dotm file and restart 
Word.  The normal.dotm template should be created by Word and this might 
cause the styles to work correctly.  However, you have Office 365 and I am 
not sure if you have the ability to work with those files in that version of 
Word or not but you probably know whether or not you do.  In Word 2013 you 
go under the user folder, open App Data, open Roaming, open Microsoft, and 
open templates to find the normal.dotm file.This would at least let you 
know if the problem was with the styles.  Again, though, I don't know if 
this should be done in an Office 365 installation.


Take care.

Brian Lee
brianl...@charter.net

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Jean Menzies

Sent: November 24, 2016 4:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Hi all,

Some small progress. I have found that if the Jaws virtual ribbon is 
enabled, I can't access any of the Footer ribbons. So, with it off, I can at 
least tab through the design choices, finding the areas for unlinking, etc.


But I still can't read any of the entered text until I exit the Footer style 
and go back to the document. Any ideas?


Jean

-Original Message-
From: Jean Menzies
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 4:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Hi Brian,

Excellent description, and I know that's how it should work. But no matter 
what I do, I can't read any of the text I'm entering, have entered, or am 
wanting to edit. Insert-F tells me the footer style text is black on black.

That shouldn't matter, I don't think.

I didn't import any old Jaws settings when I upgraded to version 18. I just 
can't find why this isn't working. I also don't see the choices to unlink 
from previous sections with section breaks, etc.


Very strange.

Jean

-Original Message-
From: Brian Lee
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 10:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Hello,

Here is some additional information on creating footers.  I am using Word
2013 but I don't think the steps vary much from 2016.

Instead of using the dialog box you might want to use the options in the 
header and footer group of the insert menu and under the design tab which is 
added as a tab to the right end of the ribbon after a footer is chosen.  To 
enter a built-in footer you can use CTRL with right arrow key across the 
lower part of the ribbon under the insert tab until you get to the header 
and footer group.  Using Word 2013, this is done seven times.  Tab to the 
footer menu item and press enter.  Alternatively, use Alt followed by N 
followed by O.  The first item is a blank footer and the second built-in 
footer type is a footer with three areas.  If you pick the second one you 
can enter the footer text in the first area and the page number in the third 
and use different alignment for the text and page number if you want.  If 
you choose the first built-in footer type you can type the text using 
nonbreaking spaces between all the words (CTRL+Shift+Spacebar) and then 
leave a space before entering the page number.  Immediately after inserting 
the page number use CTRL with J followed by shift key and enter.  This will 
cause the text to be left aligned and the page number to be right aligned.
If you want to insert a page number using a page field use Alt with Shift 
and P.  Otherwise, you can insert it from the page numbers item under the 
design tab of the ribbon.  You will find the “Link to previous”, “different 
first page” and other often used options under the design tab.  It is a good 
idea to use section breaks and then insert the blank footer for the new 
section, uncheck the “link to previous” checkbox under the design tab of the 
header and footer tools which is added to the right end of the ribbon as a 
contextual tab, and then type the footer information.  To 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

[Brian Lee]

Hello again Jean,

Another thought is that if some of the styles are messed up, they are based on 
the normal template.  You could rename the normal.dotm file and restart Word.  
The normal.dotm template should be created by Word and this might cause the 
styles to work correctly.  However, you have Office 365 and I am not sure if 
you have the ability to work with those files in that version of Word or not 
but you probably know whether or not you do.  In Word 2013 you go under the 
user folder, open App Data, open Roaming, open Microsoft, and open templates to 
find the normal.dotm file.This would at least let you know if the problem 
was with the styles.  Again, though, I don't know if this should be done in an 
Office 365 installation.  

Take care.  

Brian Lee
brianl...@charter.net

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jean Menzies
Sent: November 24, 2016 4:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Hi all,

Some small progress. I have found that if the Jaws virtual ribbon is enabled, I 
can't access any of the Footer ribbons. So, with it off, I can at least tab 
through the design choices, finding the areas for unlinking, etc.

But I still can't read any of the entered text until I exit the Footer style 
and go back to the document. Any ideas?

Jean

-Original Message-
From: Jean Menzies
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 4:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Hi Brian,

Excellent description, and I know that's how it should work. But no matter what 
I do, I can't read any of the text I'm entering, have entered, or am wanting to 
edit. Insert-F tells me the footer style text is black on black.
That shouldn't matter, I don't think.

I didn't import any old Jaws settings when I upgraded to version 18. I just 
can't find why this isn't working. I also don't see the choices to unlink from 
previous sections with section breaks, etc.

Very strange.

Jean

-Original Message-
From: Brian Lee
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 10:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Hello,

Here is some additional information on creating footers.  I am using Word
2013 but I don't think the steps vary much from 2016.

Instead of using the dialog box you might want to use the options in the header 
and footer group of the insert menu and under the design tab which is added as 
a tab to the right end of the ribbon after a footer is chosen.  To enter a 
built-in footer you can use CTRL with right arrow key across the lower part of 
the ribbon under the insert tab until you get to the header and footer group.  
Using Word 2013, this is done seven times.  Tab to the footer menu item and 
press enter.  Alternatively, use Alt followed by N followed by O.  The first 
item is a blank footer and the second built-in footer type is a footer with 
three areas.  If you pick the second one you can enter the footer text in the 
first area and the page number in the third and use different alignment for the 
text and page number if you want.  If you choose the first built-in footer type 
you can type the text using nonbreaking spaces between all the words 
(CTRL+Shift+Spacebar) and then leave a space before entering the page number.  
Immediately after inserting the page number use CTRL with J followed by shift 
key and enter.  This will cause the text to be left aligned and the page number 
to be right aligned.
If you want to insert a page number using a page field use Alt with Shift and 
P.  Otherwise, you can insert it from the page numbers item under the design 
tab of the ribbon.  You will find the “Link to previous”, “different first 
page” and other often used options under the design tab.  It is a good idea to 
use section breaks and then insert the blank footer for the new section, 
uncheck the “link to previous” checkbox under the design tab of the header and 
footer tools which is added to the right end of the ribbon as a contextual tab, 
and then type the footer information.  To insert a Next page section break 
press Alt followed by P followed by B followed by N.  Go To Footer is a command 
that can be added to the quick access toolbar or to a customized ribbon group, 
which might be helpful if you are frequently working with footers.  Remember 
that using Alt with delete will let you know the vertical position of the 
cursor so you can verify you are working in a footer area.  The escape key 
should move focus from the footer area back into the main document pane.

Take care.

Brian Lee
brianl...@charter.net

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jason White
Sent: November 24, 2016 9:13 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

[Brian Lee]

Hi Jean,

JAWS should be letting you know that the colors are black on white and not 
black on black for the footer style.  At least with my installation of word the 
footer style is pretty much the same as the normal style.  Being that this has 
happened when you use JAWS 17 and JAWS 18, it would appear that something might 
be corrupt with the Word installation.  What you might try for a workaround is 
to select the footer area and apply the normal style by using CTRL+Shift+N.  
See if you can read the text when the normal style is used in the footer.  In 
either case, JAWS should be reporting the foreground and background colors as 
black on white when using JAWS key F or when using JAWS key 5.  You might also 
create your own style and then when you move to the footer area and unlink the 
footer from the previous one, you can select from the beginning to the end of 
the line and apply your created style.  The new style could be called something 
like "MyFooter."  I think you said in another message that JAWS wouldn't read 
the text when using JAWS 17 and 18 and that you didn't merge any of the 
settings.  Try refreshing the screen using JAWS key with escape key and 
maximizing the window before typing or reading the text.  Sure hope you get it 
working!

Take care.

Brian Lee
brianl...@charter.net

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jean Menzies
Sent: November 24, 2016 4:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Hi all,

Some small progress. I have found that if the Jaws virtual ribbon is enabled, I 
can't access any of the Footer ribbons. So, with it off, I can at least tab 
through the design choices, finding the areas for unlinking, etc.

But I still can't read any of the entered text until I exit the Footer style 
and go back to the document. Any ideas?

Jean

-Original Message-
From: Jean Menzies
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 4:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Hi Brian,

Excellent description, and I know that's how it should work. But no matter what 
I do, I can't read any of the text I'm entering, have entered, or am wanting to 
edit. Insert-F tells me the footer style text is black on black.
That shouldn't matter, I don't think.

I didn't import any old Jaws settings when I upgraded to version 18. I just 
can't find why this isn't working. I also don't see the choices to unlink from 
previous sections with section breaks, etc.

Very strange.

Jean

-Original Message-
From: Brian Lee
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 10:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Hello,

Here is some additional information on creating footers.  I am using Word
2013 but I don't think the steps vary much from 2016.

Instead of using the dialog box you might want to use the options in the header 
and footer group of the insert menu and under the design tab which is added as 
a tab to the right end of the ribbon after a footer is chosen.  To enter a 
built-in footer you can use CTRL with right arrow key across the lower part of 
the ribbon under the insert tab until you get to the header and footer group.  
Using Word 2013, this is done seven times.  Tab to the footer menu item and 
press enter.  Alternatively, use Alt followed by N followed by O.  The first 
item is a blank footer and the second built-in footer type is a footer with 
three areas.  If you pick the second one you can enter the footer text in the 
first area and the page number in the third and use different alignment for the 
text and page number if you want.  If you choose the first built-in footer type 
you can type the text using nonbreaking spaces between all the words 
(CTRL+Shift+Spacebar) and then leave a space before entering the page number.  
Immediately after inserting the page number use CTRL with J followed by shift 
key and enter.  This will cause the text to be left aligned and the page number 
to be right aligned.
If you want to insert a page number using a page field use Alt with Shift and 
P.  Otherwise, you can insert it from the page numbers item under the design 
tab of the ribbon.  You will find the “Link to previous”, “different first 
page” and other often used options under the design tab.  It is a good idea to 
use section breaks and then insert the blank footer for the new section, 
uncheck the “link to previous” checkbox under the design tab of the header and 
footer tools which is added to the right end of the ribbon as a contextual tab, 
and then type the footer information.  To insert a Next page section break 
press Alt followed by P followed by B followed by N.  Go To Footer is a command 
that can be added to the quick access toolbar or to a customized ribbon group, 
which might be helpful if you are frequently working with footers.  Remember 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

[Jean Menzies]

Thanks, Mike. The ribbons appear to be maximized. I hear the option to 
collapse them, so they must be okay. Good thought, though. Thanks.


-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 5:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Hi Jean,

Make sure the ribbons are maximized.
To navigate ribbons more efficiently the ribbons need to be maximized.  The
keystroke is, control + F1.  This keystroke is a toggle so, this keystroke
will maximize & minimize.  To check if the ribbons are minimized / maximized
do the following:
1. Press the, Alt key, to open the ribbons.
2. Open the context menu with either the application key or, shift + F10.
3. Arrow up or down to the, Minimize, option.  If, Minimize, is checked, the
ribbons are minimized  Pressing, enter, on this checkbox, will uncheck it &
close the context menu & your menues will now be maximized.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message - 
From: Jean Menzies

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers


Hi all,

Some small progress. I have found that if the Jaws virtual ribbon is
enabled, I can't access any of the Footer ribbons. So, with it off, I can at
least tab through the design choices, finding the areas for unlinking, etc.

But I still can't read any of the entered text until I exit the Footer style
and go back to the document. Any ideas?

Jean

-Original Message- 
From: Jean Menzies

Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 4:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Hi Brian,

Excellent description, and I know that's how it should work. But no matter
what I do, I can't read any of the text I'm entering, have entered, or am
wanting to edit. Insert-F tells me the footer style text is black on black.
That shouldn't matter, I don't think.

I didn't import any old Jaws settings when I upgraded to version 18. I just
can't find why this isn't working. I also don't see the choices to unlink
from previous sections with section breaks, etc.

Very strange.

Jean

-Original Message- 
From: Brian Lee

Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 10:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Hello,

Here is some additional information on creating footers.  I am using Word
2013 but I don't think the steps vary much from 2016.

Instead of using the dialog box you might want to use the options in the
header and footer group of the insert menu and under the design tab which is
added as a tab to the right end of the ribbon after a footer is chosen.  To
enter a built-in footer you can use CTRL with right arrow key across the
lower part of the ribbon under the insert tab until you get to the header
and footer group.  Using Word 2013, this is done seven times.  Tab to the
footer menu item and press enter.  Alternatively, use Alt followed by N
followed by O.  The first item is a blank footer and the second built-in
footer type is a footer with three areas.  If you pick the second one you
can enter the footer text in the first area and the page number in the third
and use different alignment for the text and page number if you want.  If
you choose the first built-in footer type you can type the text using
nonbreaking spaces between all the words (CTRL+Shift+Spacebar) and then
leave a space before entering the page number.  Immediately after inserting
the page number use CTRL with J followed by shift key and enter.  This will
cause the text to be left aligned and the page number to be right aligned.
If you want to insert a page number using a page field use Alt with Shift
and P.  Otherwise, you can insert it from the page numbers item under the
design tab of the ribbon.  You will find the “Link to previous”, “different
first page” and other often used options under the design tab.  It is a good
idea to use section breaks and then insert the blank footer for the new
section, uncheck the “link to previous” checkbox under the design tab of the
header and footer tools which is added to the right end of the ribbon as a
contextual tab, and then type the footer information.  To insert a Next page
section break press Alt followed by P followed by B followed by N.  Go To
Footer is a command that can be added to the quick access toolbar or to a
customized ribbon group, which might be helpful if you are frequently
working with footers.  Remember that using Alt with delete will let you know
the vertical position of the cursor so you can verify you are working in a
footer area.  The escape key should move focus from the footer area back
into the main document pane.

Take care.

   Brian Lee
brianl...@charter.net

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jason White
Sent: November 24, 2016 9:13 AM
To: 

[JAWS-Users] FW: Outlook 2016 and contacts

[Reed]

Oh yah,

 

I'm using Windows 10 and JAWS 18.

 

Thanks,

 

Reed

 

From: Reed [mailto:reed.poyn...@telus.net] 
Sent: November 24, 2016 5:47 PM
To: 'jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com' 
Subject: Outlook 2016 and contacts

 

Hello,

 

I'm looking for an everything you ever wanted to know set of instructions
for working with contacts in Outlook 2016.

Any suggestions?

 

Thanks,

 

Reed 

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

[JAWS-Users] Outlook 2016 and contacts

[Reed]

Hello,

 

I'm looking for an everything you ever wanted to know set of instructions
for working with contacts in Outlook 2016.

Any suggestions?

 

Thanks,

 

Reed 

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

[Mike B.]

Hi Jean,

Make sure the ribbons are maximized.
To navigate ribbons more efficiently the ribbons need to be maximized.  The
keystroke is, control + F1.  This keystroke is a toggle so, this keystroke
will maximize & minimize.  To check if the ribbons are minimized / maximized
do the following:
1. Press the, Alt key, to open the ribbons.
2. Open the context menu with either the application key or, shift + F10.
3. Arrow up or down to the, Minimize, option.  If, Minimize, is checked, the
ribbons are minimized  Pressing, enter, on this checkbox, will uncheck it &
close the context menu & your menues will now be maximized.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message - 
From: Jean Menzies
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers


Hi all,

Some small progress. I have found that if the Jaws virtual ribbon is
enabled, I can't access any of the Footer ribbons. So, with it off, I can at
least tab through the design choices, finding the areas for unlinking, etc.

But I still can't read any of the entered text until I exit the Footer style
and go back to the document. Any ideas?

Jean

-Original Message- 
From: Jean Menzies
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 4:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Hi Brian,

Excellent description, and I know that's how it should work. But no matter
what I do, I can't read any of the text I'm entering, have entered, or am
wanting to edit. Insert-F tells me the footer style text is black on black.
That shouldn't matter, I don't think.

I didn't import any old Jaws settings when I upgraded to version 18. I just
can't find why this isn't working. I also don't see the choices to unlink
from previous sections with section breaks, etc.

Very strange.

Jean

-Original Message- 
From: Brian Lee
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 10:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Hello,

Here is some additional information on creating footers.  I am using Word
2013 but I don't think the steps vary much from 2016.

Instead of using the dialog box you might want to use the options in the
header and footer group of the insert menu and under the design tab which is
added as a tab to the right end of the ribbon after a footer is chosen.  To
enter a built-in footer you can use CTRL with right arrow key across the
lower part of the ribbon under the insert tab until you get to the header
and footer group.  Using Word 2013, this is done seven times.  Tab to the
footer menu item and press enter.  Alternatively, use Alt followed by N
followed by O.  The first item is a blank footer and the second built-in
footer type is a footer with three areas.  If you pick the second one you
can enter the footer text in the first area and the page number in the third
and use different alignment for the text and page number if you want.  If
you choose the first built-in footer type you can type the text using
nonbreaking spaces between all the words (CTRL+Shift+Spacebar) and then
leave a space before entering the page number.  Immediately after inserting
the page number use CTRL with J followed by shift key and enter.  This will
cause the text to be left aligned and the page number to be right aligned.
If you want to insert a page number using a page field use Alt with Shift
and P.  Otherwise, you can insert it from the page numbers item under the
design tab of the ribbon.  You will find the “Link to previous”, “different
first page” and other often used options under the design tab.  It is a good
idea to use section breaks and then insert the blank footer for the new
section, uncheck the “link to previous” checkbox under the design tab of the
header and footer tools which is added to the right end of the ribbon as a
contextual tab, and then type the footer information.  To insert a Next page
section break press Alt followed by P followed by B followed by N.  Go To
Footer is a command that can be added to the quick access toolbar or to a
customized ribbon group, which might be helpful if you are frequently
working with footers.  Remember that using Alt with delete will let you know
the vertical position of the cursor so you can verify you are working in a
footer area.  The escape key should move focus from the footer area back
into the main document pane.

Take care.

Brian Lee
brianl...@charter.net

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jason White
Sent: November 24, 2016 9:13 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

I'm trying to test this with JAWS 18, Windows 10 and Word 2016.

I can edit a footer by typing Alt+N, O, E. Alternatively, I can work my way
through the Insert tab of the ribbon to find this command (Insert ->
Footer -> Edit 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

[Jean Menzies]

Hi all,

Some small progress. I have found that if the Jaws virtual ribbon is 
enabled, I can't access any of the Footer ribbons. So, with it off, I can at 
least tab through the design choices, finding the areas for unlinking, etc.


But I still can't read any of the entered text until I exit the Footer style 
and go back to the document. Any ideas?


Jean

-Original Message- 
From: Jean Menzies

Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 4:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Hi Brian,

Excellent description, and I know that's how it should work. But no matter
what I do, I can't read any of the text I'm entering, have entered, or am
wanting to edit. Insert-F tells me the footer style text is black on black.
That shouldn't matter, I don't think.

I didn't import any old Jaws settings when I upgraded to version 18. I just
can't find why this isn't working. I also don't see the choices to unlink
from previous sections with section breaks, etc.

Very strange.

Jean

-Original Message- 
From: Brian Lee

Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 10:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Hello,

Here is some additional information on creating footers.  I am using Word
2013 but I don't think the steps vary much from 2016.

Instead of using the dialog box you might want to use the options in the
header and footer group of the insert menu and under the design tab which is
added as a tab to the right end of the ribbon after a footer is chosen.  To
enter a built-in footer you can use CTRL with right arrow key across the
lower part of the ribbon under the insert tab until you get to the header
and footer group.  Using Word 2013, this is done seven times.  Tab to the
footer menu item and press enter.  Alternatively, use Alt followed by N
followed by O.  The first item is a blank footer and the second built-in
footer type is a footer with three areas.  If you pick the second one you
can enter the footer text in the first area and the page number in the third
and use different alignment for the text and page number if you want.  If
you choose the first built-in footer type you can type the text using
nonbreaking spaces between all the words (CTRL+Shift+Spacebar) and then
leave a space before entering the page number.  Immediately after inserting
the page number use CTRL with J followed by shift key and enter.  This will
cause the text to be left aligned and the page number to be right aligned.
If you want to insert a page number using a page field use Alt with Shift
and P.  Otherwise, you can insert it from the page numbers item under the
design tab of the ribbon.  You will find the “Link to previous”, “different
first page” and other often used options under the design tab.  It is a good
idea to use section breaks and then insert the blank footer for the new
section, uncheck the “link to previous” checkbox under the design tab of the
header and footer tools which is added to the right end of the ribbon as a
contextual tab, and then type the footer information.  To insert a Next page
section break press Alt followed by P followed by B followed by N.  Go To
Footer is a command that can be added to the quick access toolbar or to a
customized ribbon group, which might be helpful if you are frequently
working with footers.  Remember that using Alt with delete will let you know
the vertical position of the cursor so you can verify you are working in a
footer area.  The escape key should move focus from the footer area back
into the main document pane.

Take care.

   Brian Lee
brianl...@charter.net

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jason White
Sent: November 24, 2016 9:13 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

I'm trying to test this with JAWS 18, Windows 10 and Word 2016.

I can edit a footer by typing Alt+N, O, E. Alternatively, I can work my way
through the Insert tab of the ribbon to find this command (Insert ->
Footer -> Edit Footer).

At this point (having invoked the above command), I'm in a footer field into
which I can type text or edit existing text. While editing the footer, there
are commands in the ribbon to insert the time and date, document
information, etc.

JAWS is reading everything as expected.

Are your steps different from mine? If not, this might have been fixed in
JAWS
18 or in a Microsoft Word update. I'm running Word 2016 Pro Plus as
downloaded from Office365, so it's always kept up to date.

Jean Menzies  wrote:

I’m using Word 2016 and Jaws 17.0.2619.

I want to create documents with page footers. Each page needs its own 
unique footer. I know how to get to the footer dialogue, but Jaws doesn’t 
read any of the text in the dialogue as I type or as it appears. Outside 
of the dialogue, I can use insert F1 to hear 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

[Jean Menzies]

Hi Brian,

Excellent description, and I know that's how it should work. But no matter 
what I do, I can't read any of the text I'm entering, have entered, or am 
wanting to edit. Insert-F tells me the footer style text is black on black. 
That shouldn't matter, I don't think.


I didn't import any old Jaws settings when I upgraded to version 18. I just 
can't find why this isn't working. I also don't see the choices to unlink 
from previous sections with section breaks, etc.


Very strange.

Jean

-Original Message- 
From: Brian Lee

Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 10:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

Hello,

Here is some additional information on creating footers.  I am using Word 
2013 but I don't think the steps vary much from 2016.


Instead of using the dialog box you might want to use the options in the 
header and footer group of the insert menu and under the design tab which is 
added as a tab to the right end of the ribbon after a footer is chosen.  To 
enter a built-in footer you can use CTRL with right arrow key across the 
lower part of the ribbon under the insert tab until you get to the header 
and footer group.  Using Word 2013, this is done seven times.  Tab to the 
footer menu item and press enter.  Alternatively, use Alt followed by N 
followed by O.  The first item is a blank footer and the second built-in 
footer type is a footer with three areas.  If you pick the second one you 
can enter the footer text in the first area and the page number in the third 
and use different alignment for the text and page number if you want.  If 
you choose the first built-in footer type you can type the text using 
nonbreaking spaces between all the words (CTRL+Shift+Spacebar) and then 
leave a space before entering the page number.  Immediately after inserting 
the page number use CTRL with J followed by shift key and enter.  This will 
cause the text to be left aligned and the page number to be right aligned. 
If you want to insert a page number using a page field use Alt with Shift 
and P.  Otherwise, you can insert it from the page numbers item under the 
design tab of the ribbon.  You will find the “Link to previous”, “different 
first page” and other often used options under the design tab.  It is a good 
idea to use section breaks and then insert the blank footer for the new 
section, uncheck the “link to previous” checkbox under the design tab of the 
header and footer tools which is added to the right end of the ribbon as a 
contextual tab, and then type the footer information.  To insert a Next page 
section break press Alt followed by P followed by B followed by N.  Go To 
Footer is a command that can be added to the quick access toolbar or to a 
customized ribbon group, which might be helpful if you are frequently 
working with footers.  Remember that using Alt with delete will let you know 
the vertical position of the cursor so you can verify you are working in a 
footer area.  The escape key should move focus from the footer area back 
into the main document pane.


Take care.

   Brian Lee
brianl...@charter.net

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Jason White

Sent: November 24, 2016 9:13 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

I'm trying to test this with JAWS 18, Windows 10 and Word 2016.

I can edit a footer by typing Alt+N, O, E. Alternatively, I can work my way 
through the Insert tab of the ribbon to find this command (Insert -> 
Footer -> Edit Footer).


At this point (having invoked the above command), I'm in a footer field into 
which I can type text or edit existing text. While editing the footer, there 
are commands in the ribbon to insert the time and date, document 
information, etc.


JAWS is reading everything as expected.

Are your steps different from mine? If not, this might have been fixed in 
JAWS
18 or in a Microsoft Word update. I'm running Word 2016 Pro Plus as 
downloaded from Office365, so it's always kept up to date.


Jean Menzies  wrote:

I’m using Word 2016 and Jaws 17.0.2619.

I want to create documents with page footers. Each page needs its own 
unique footer. I know how to get to the footer dialogue, but Jaws doesn’t 
read any of the text in the dialogue as I type or as it appears. Outside 
of the dialogue, I can use insert F1 to hear document info, but this is a 
tedious way to check footers, and doesn’t allow for editing, etc.


Is there a solution for this? It used to work in previous versions of Word 
and Jaws.


Jean
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

[Jean Menzies]

Hi Jason,

I have now upgraded to Jaws 18, but I am not getting the results you get. I 
can get to the footer area in both ways as you describe. Once in the footer 
edit area, text is not spoken as I type, and nothing is readable in the 
field.


Then if I exit the footer dialogue and use insert-F1, I know that footer 
text was entered. Going back in to edit, I again cannot hear anything in 
terms of what the footer text is.


I also can't seem to find ribbon controls for adding date, time, etc.

On this same topic, can you go under Layout and insert a section break and 
see if you can unlink it from other document sections? I can't identify the 
button to do that either.


The good thing is that you can do this. I just have to figure out why I 
can't.


I'm using Office 365, if that might be different.

Jean

-Original Message- 
From: Jason White

Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 9:13 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

I'm trying to test this with JAWS 18, Windows 10 and Word 2016.

I can edit a footer by typing Alt+N, O, E. Alternatively, I can work my way
through the Insert tab of the ribbon to find this command (Insert -> 
Footer ->

Edit Footer).

At this point (having invoked the above command), I'm in a footer field into
which I can type text or edit existing text. While editing the footer, there
are commands in the ribbon to insert the time and date, document 
information,

etc.

JAWS is reading everything as expected.

Are your steps different from mine? If not, this might have been fixed in 
JAWS
18 or in a Microsoft Word update. I'm running Word 2016 Pro Plus as 
downloaded

from Office365, so it's always kept up to date.

Jean Menzies  wrote:

I’m using Word 2016 and Jaws 17.0.2619.

I want to create documents with page footers. Each page needs its own 
unique footer. I know how to get to the footer dialogue, but Jaws doesn’t 
read any of the text in the dialogue as I type or as it appears. Outside 
of the dialogue, I can use insert F1 to hear document info, but this is a 
tedious way to check footers, and doesn’t allow for editing, etc.


Is there a solution for this? It used to work in previous versions of Word 
and Jaws.


Jean
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

[Brian Lee]

Hello,

Here is some additional information on creating footers.  I am using Word 2013 
but I don't think the steps vary much from 2016.  

Instead of using the dialog box you might want to use the options in the header 
and footer group of the insert menu and under the design tab which is added as 
a tab to the right end of the ribbon after a footer is chosen.  To enter a 
built-in footer you can use CTRL with right arrow key across the lower part of 
the ribbon under the insert tab until you get to the header and footer group.  
Using Word 2013, this is done seven times.  Tab to the footer menu item and 
press enter.  Alternatively, use Alt followed by N followed by O.  The first 
item is a blank footer and the second built-in footer type is a footer with 
three areas.  If you pick the second one you can enter the footer text in the 
first area and the page number in the third and use different alignment for the 
text and page number if you want.  If you choose the first built-in footer type 
you can type the text using nonbreaking spaces between all the words 
(CTRL+Shift+Spacebar) and then leave a space before entering the page number.  
Immediately after inserting the page number use CTRL with J followed by shift 
key and enter.  This will cause the text to be left aligned and the page number 
to be right aligned.  If you want to insert a page number using a page field 
use Alt with Shift and P.  Otherwise, you can insert it from the page numbers 
item under the design tab of the ribbon.  You will find the “Link to previous”, 
“different first page” and other often used options under the design tab.  It 
is a good idea to use section breaks and then insert the blank footer for the 
new section, uncheck the “link to previous” checkbox under the design tab of 
the header and footer tools which is added to the right end of the ribbon as a 
contextual tab, and then type the footer information.  To insert a Next page 
section break press Alt followed by P followed by B followed by N.  Go To 
Footer is a command that can be added to the quick access toolbar or to a 
customized ribbon group, which might be helpful if you are frequently working 
with footers.  Remember that using Alt with delete will let you know the 
vertical position of the cursor so you can verify you are working in a footer 
area.  The escape key should move focus from the footer area back into the main 
document pane.

Take care.

Brian Lee
brianl...@charter.net

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jason White
Sent: November 24, 2016 9:13 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

I'm trying to test this with JAWS 18, Windows 10 and Word 2016.

I can edit a footer by typing Alt+N, O, E. Alternatively, I can work my way 
through the Insert tab of the ribbon to find this command (Insert -> Footer -> 
Edit Footer).

At this point (having invoked the above command), I'm in a footer field into 
which I can type text or edit existing text. While editing the footer, there 
are commands in the ribbon to insert the time and date, document information, 
etc.

JAWS is reading everything as expected.

Are your steps different from mine? If not, this might have been fixed in JAWS
18 or in a Microsoft Word update. I'm running Word 2016 Pro Plus as downloaded 
from Office365, so it's always kept up to date.

Jean Menzies  wrote:
> I’m using Word 2016 and Jaws 17.0.2619. 
> 
> I want to create documents with page footers. Each page needs its own unique 
> footer. I know how to get to the footer dialogue, but Jaws doesn’t read any 
> of the text in the dialogue as I type or as it appears. Outside of the 
> dialogue, I can use insert F1 to hear document info, but this is a tedious 
> way to check footers, and doesn’t allow for editing, etc. 
> 
> Is there a solution for this? It used to work in previous versions of Word 
> and Jaws. 
> 
> Jean
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17, Word 2016 and footers

[Jason White]

I'm trying to test this with JAWS 18, Windows 10 and Word 2016.

I can edit a footer by typing Alt+N, O, E. Alternatively, I can work my way
through the Insert tab of the ribbon to find this command (Insert -> Footer ->
Edit Footer).

At this point (having invoked the above command), I'm in a footer field into
which I can type text or edit existing text. While editing the footer, there
are commands in the ribbon to insert the time and date, document information,
etc.

JAWS is reading everything as expected.

Are your steps different from mine? If not, this might have been fixed in JAWS
18 or in a Microsoft Word update. I'm running Word 2016 Pro Plus as downloaded
from Office365, so it's always kept up to date.

Jean Menzies  wrote:
> I’m using Word 2016 and Jaws 17.0.2619. 
> 
> I want to create documents with page footers. Each page needs its own unique 
> footer. I know how to get to the footer dialogue, but Jaws doesn’t read any 
> of the text in the dialogue as I type or as it appears. Outside of the 
> dialogue, I can use insert F1 to hear document info, but this is a tedious 
> way to check footers, and doesn’t allow for editing, etc. 
> 
> Is there a solution for this? It used to work in previous versions of Word 
> and Jaws. 
> 
> Jean
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Signatures in Outlook

[Adam Ferguson]

Hi both.

Many thanks for your assistance.  I have now managed to do this successfully.

Best wishes,

adam.

On 24/11/2016, David Whitehead  wrote:
>
> Hello;
> Give the following steps a whirl;
>
> Creating a signature in Outlook 2010
>
> 1.  Alt+f=file menu.
> 2.  T=options.
> 3. Down-Arrow once to mail.
> 4. Tab several times until you  get to the word signature.
> 5.  Press you're spacebar or, enter key.
> 6. Tab a few times.
> 7. "you  will hear/see "signature to edit".
> 8  Arrow up/ down until you find the email address that you want to attach
> to your signature.
> 9 Tab twice, you will hear, "New signature".
> 10. Press enter.
> 11. Type a name for your signature.  Example; the account/email address,
> 12.  Press tab then spacebar or, enter  on the okay button.
> 13.  Now  you are placed on the signature page.  As you tab/navigate  read
> your choices for font.
> 14  When you arrive within the edit box here you can type in your
> signature,
> then tab and press the okay button.
> 15.  You're now  given a screen of various choices.  Tab through to decide
> whether you wish to check or uncheck any of these boxes.  Once you tab to
> the okay button and press enter, you are placed back into the inbox and
> have
> created you're signature.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Adam Ferguson
> Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 5:23 AM
> To: jaws-users-list 
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Signatures in Outlook
>
> Hi all.
>
> I wonder if anyone can help.
>
> I am trying to add a signature in Outlook 2010 and am having
> difficulty in achieving this.  As this will be for my work email I
> want to include contact details at the end of the message but, as far
> as I can tell, I can only include my name.  Ideally I would like it to
> be in the following format.
>
> Name
> Job title
> Work phone
> work address
>
> When I hit 'enter' after my name it just leaves the edit box.
>
> Any help which you can offer will be very much appreciated.
>
> Adam.
>
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> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
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>

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Signatures in Outlook

[David Whitehead]

Hello;
Give the following steps a whirl;
 
Creating a signature in Outlook 2010
 
1.  Alt+f=file menu.
2.  T=options.
3. Down-Arrow once to mail.
4. Tab several times until you  get to the word signature.
5.  Press you're spacebar or, enter key.
6. Tab a few times.
7. "you  will hear/see "signature to edit".  
8  Arrow up/ down until you find the email address that you want to attach
to your signature.
9 Tab twice, you will hear, "New signature".
10. Press enter.
11. Type a name for your signature.  Example; the account/email address,  
12.  Press tab then spacebar or, enter  on the okay button.
13.  Now  you are placed on the signature page.  As you tab/navigate  read
your choices for font.
14  When you arrive within the edit box here you can type in your signature,
then tab and press the okay button.
15.  You're now  given a screen of various choices.  Tab through to decide
whether you wish to check or uncheck any of these boxes.  Once you tab to
the okay button and press enter, you are placed back into the inbox and have
created you're signature.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adam Ferguson
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 5:23 AM
To: jaws-users-list 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Signatures in Outlook

Hi all.

I wonder if anyone can help.

I am trying to add a signature in Outlook 2010 and am having
difficulty in achieving this.  As this will be for my work email I
want to include contact details at the end of the message but, as far
as I can tell, I can only include my name.  Ideally I would like it to
be in the following format.

Name
Job title
Work phone
work address

When I hit 'enter' after my name it just leaves the edit box.

Any help which you can offer will be very much appreciated.

Adam.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Signatures in Outlook

[Annette Carr]

Hi Adam,

I do not know if there is a better way to do this, but here is what I do
when I want to create a signature in Outlook, and how I manage them.

I either open a new e-mail message or a Word doc.

Type in all of the information I want to include in my signature.  This
includes contact information and any links to websites.

I then proof read, spell check and run JAWS text analyzer.

Once everything is how I want it, I open the signature editor in Outlook.

Go back to the source of my new signature, and copy the entire thing.

Go back to the signature editor, paste the contents of my new signature in
to the appropriate edit box, and adjust all necessary setting for that
signature.

At work I have multiple signatures.  My most used is the general/long
signature which is set to be automatically added to all messages that I
create.  The second most used signature is what I call the "Short"
signature.  This contains just my basic contact information and is
automatically added to all replies and messages that I forward.  I have a
few other signatures that pertain to specific projects that I am assigned
to, and I have to add these manually after deleting the automatically added
signature.  

Currently when I initiate an e-mail from a document in Word or Excel, there
is not a signature automatically being added to the outgoing message.  I
have not had time to look into whether there is a setting that will change
this, so I manually add the desired signature.

HTH,
Annette


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adam Ferguson
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 5:23 AM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Signatures in Outlook

Hi all.

I wonder if anyone can help.

I am trying to add a signature in Outlook 2010 and am having difficulty in
achieving this.  As this will be for my work email I want to include contact
details at the end of the message but, as far as I can tell, I can only
include my name.  Ideally I would like it to be in the following format.

Name
Job title
Work phone
work address

When I hit 'enter' after my name it just leaves the edit box.

Any help which you can offer will be very much appreciated.

Adam.

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[JAWS-Users] Signatures in Outlook

[Adam Ferguson]

Hi all.

I wonder if anyone can help.

I am trying to add a signature in Outlook 2010 and am having
difficulty in achieving this.  As this will be for my work email I
want to include contact details at the end of the message but, as far
as I can tell, I can only include my name.  Ideally I would like it to
be in the following format.

Name
Job title
Work phone
work address

When I hit 'enter' after my name it just leaves the edit box.

Any help which you can offer will be very much appreciated.

Adam.

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/