Re: [JAWS-Users] CAPS LOCK AND JAWS 18

[net bat66]

thanks. the alt caps lock keys are already defined.i didn't change anything. 
you do have to release the alt key and press it again every time before you 
press the caps lock key or else it will not change.


-Original Message- 
From: Rebecca Ilniski

Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 7:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] CAPS LOCK AND JAWS 18

Hi. Also a relatively new jaws user here transferring over from window-eyes. I 
had this issue too. It was annoying. When I hit the caps lock key it wouldn't 
toggle off an on. What I did to fix it was to g in to the keyboard manager 
which I believe is in the utilities menu. You could assign a keystroke to 
toggle the caps lock key on and off. Using whatever  hot key you define from 
there should work4 I think I chose alt ;c. Hope this helps.


Rebecca and Zeb
email: rilni...@gmail.com
Twitter: applegirl1994

On May 26, 2017, at 10:05 PM, net bat66  wrote:

HOW DO I TURN OFF CAPS LOCK WHEN IT IS BEING USED FOR THE JAWS KEY?
THANKS.

GF


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Re: [JAWS-Users] turning off internet

[Lenny McHugh]

Thanks, I had lost about 3 weeks of emails and computer settings and 
changes. I am now a little more diligent on my backups.


-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 10:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turning off internet

Go to the audio page and search for the word network.

-Original Message- 
From: Lenny McHugh

Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 5:53 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] turning off internet

Some time ago I lost a lot of emails. David had sent instructions on how to
set it up. That email was among the ones that I lost. I made the mistake of
stopping the wifi network and now having problems reestablishing it. If
those instructions are easy to locate I would like them again.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] CAPS LOCK AND JAWS 18

[Rebecca Ilniski]

Hi. Also a relatively new jaws user here transferring over from window-eyes. I 
had this issue too. It was annoying. When I hit the caps lock key it wouldn't 
toggle off an on. What I did to fix it was to g in to the keyboard manager 
which I believe is in the utilities menu. You could assign a keystroke to 
toggle the caps lock key on and off. Using whatever  hot key you define from 
there should work4 I think I chose alt ;c. Hope this helps.  

Rebecca and Zeb
email: rilni...@gmail.com
Twitter: applegirl1994

On May 26, 2017, at 10:05 PM, net bat66  wrote:

HOW DO I TURN OFF CAPS LOCK WHEN IT IS BEING USED FOR THE JAWS KEY?
THANKS.

GF


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jart & Jaws

[Mike B.]

Hi Maria,

Cool, thanks very much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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From: Maria Campbell
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jart & Jaws


Tell your friend to write into the clipboard, "enable screen reader
mode" without the quotes.  Then ope the Jart program.  This should
enable screen reader mode and show all the menus.


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things, it does not exist at all.

On 5/26/2017 8:18 PM, Mike B. wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> A friend is asking the following:
> Hi all,
> JAWS 18.0  and Win 7.
> I just updated to the latest free version of JART.
> I was fooling around with the menu bar and clicked on "Classic view".
> Now I can not pull up the menu bar when I hit the "alt" key.
> I did try alt V but to no avail.
>
> Please give suggestions on how to get back to the best view.
>
> Thanks.
> Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
> Sent from my iBarstool.
> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] turning off internet

[David Ferrin]

Go to the audio page and search for the word network.

-Original Message- 
From: Lenny McHugh

Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 5:53 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] turning off internet

Some time ago I lost a lot of emails. David had sent instructions on how to
set it up. That email was among the ones that I lost. I made the mistake of
stopping the wifi network and now having problems reestablishing it. If
those instructions are easy to locate I would like them again.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc document? Try WordPad.

[Andy Baracco]

That depends on what you want to do with the document. importing into 
Notepad would change the document into a plain text file, and you would lose 
any formatting.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Judy" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc 
document? Try WordPad.




Jeff, why not try note pad instead. I have copied word documents into note
pad and been able to read them fine. It doesn't change anything. I use Win
7.  Judy & Libby



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Behalf Of Audiobookfan
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 2:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc
document? Try WordPad.

I'm running Windows 10 Anniversary edition. Wordpad didn't work very
well for me. It didn't seem to translate everything properly. By that, I
mean that there were some characters/symbols that were left in the
document. Specifically in the example I tried, there was a backslash (\)
character at the beginning of some lines. Also, I'm not sure how the
document might have looked in Word, but the formatting seemed unlikely.
All the text was strung together with no logical line breaks or blank
lines.

Perhaps I just don't know how to use Wordpad, so if this is the case,
some instructions on how to configure Wordpad would be appreciated.
Otherwise, are there any other suggestions for free programs to access
Word documents? I'm not looking to create or even edit Word documents,
it's just that occasionally I'll be given a Word doc that I want to read
and sometimes getting it in another format is not an option.

Thanks,
Jeff



On 5/22/2017 10:43 PM, Tim Ford wrote:

Hi All,

Another option might be WordPad.  At least with Windows 10, WordPad will
open even a .docx file, allow you to edit it, and save it back in the
original doc or docx format.  Just do the usual save command, control s 
is

the shortcut, and follow the prompts to either over-right the original

file,

or save it under a different name.  If you over-right the original file,

you

will lose some functions that are in the full version of Word, but you

will

not lose text or even most of the format, fonts, etc.

I do not know how much of that works in Windows 7 WordPad,  but I know 
for

sure it does with Windows 10; I just tried it.

Tim Ford


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 10:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc
document?

Jarte will open .DOC files, and also .DOCX files if you have the
compatibility pack from Microsoft.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: "Mike B." 
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc
document?



Hi Jo,

You need MS Word to open this file.  The file extension, .doc, is the
old file extension for MS Word prior to Word 2007, & possibly 2003,
but I'm not sure about 2003.  If you have a newer version of Word
installed, you will also need to have the, Compatibility Pack,
installed.  This program allows newer versions of Office to open,
read, & edit older files from older Office versions.

If you need to know how to assign a program to open this file, now
this is a totally different set of steps.  First we need to know if
you have Office installed, & possibly what operating system you're
running depending on your needs.
Take care, Mike.
Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
- Original Message -
From: Jo Luland
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc
document?


Hi All,
I received a .doc document, but I can't read it. I'm informed that I
need to create something in the control panel. As you can all see, I'm
not familiar with this. I've been using JAWS for many years, but have
never come across this situation. I know that many of you out there
will know what the heck I'm talking about and will be able to help me.
Thanks for any suggestions you may have.
Jo


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[JAWS-Users] CAPS LOCK AND JAWS 18

[net bat66]

HOW DO I TURN OFF CAPS LOCK WHEN IT IS BEING USED FOR THE JAWS KEY?
THANKS.

GF


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jart & Jaws

[Maria Campbell]

Open notepad, write the words enable screen reader mode, select and copy 
to clipboard.  Then open Jart.  If it works, you should hear screen 
reader mode when opening Jart and see the menus when press the alt key.



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On 5/26/2017 8:48 PM, Leonard Morris wrote:

How do you access the clipboard in windows seven

This Iphone message was sent using the dictation feature. I apologize for any 
grammar or spelling errors found in the text.


On May 27, 2017, at 8:41 AM, Maria Campbell  wrote:

Tell your friend to write into the clipboard, "enable screen reader mode" 
without the quotes.  Then ope the Jart program.  This should enable screen reader mode 
and show all the menus.


lucky1i...@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small 
things, it does not exist at all.


On 5/26/2017 8:18 PM, Mike B. wrote:
Hi All,

A friend is asking the following:
Hi all,
JAWS 18.0  and Win 7.
I just updated to the latest free version of JART.
I was fooling around with the menu bar and clicked on "Classic view".
Now I can not pull up the menu bar when I hit the "alt" key.
I did try alt V but to no avail.

Please give suggestions on how to get back to the best view.

Thanks.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account

[Andy Baracco]

Hi Rick,

Well, i thought i had achieved success with setting up a POP account for my 
Gmail account on my PC, but even though I can receive mail from that 
account, when I try to send mail from that account, I get the following 
error.


An unknown error has occurred. Subject 'Test', Account: 'pop.gmail.com', 
Server: 'smtp.gmail.com', Protocol: SMTP, Port: 465, Secure(SSL): Yes, Error 
Number: 0x800CCC0B


So what next?
Andy


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jart & Jaws

[Leonard Morris]

How do you access the clipboard in windows seven

This Iphone message was sent using the dictation feature. I apologize for any 
grammar or spelling errors found in the text.

> On May 27, 2017, at 8:41 AM, Maria Campbell  wrote:
> 
> Tell your friend to write into the clipboard, "enable screen reader mode" 
> without the quotes.  Then ope the Jart program.  This should enable screen 
> reader mode and show all the menus.
> 
> 
> lucky1i...@gmail.com
> Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small 
> things, it does not exist at all.
> 
>> On 5/26/2017 8:18 PM, Mike B. wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> A friend is asking the following:
>> Hi all,
>> JAWS 18.0  and Win 7.
>> I just updated to the latest free version of JART.
>> I was fooling around with the menu bar and clicked on "Classic view".
>> Now I can not pull up the menu bar when I hit the "alt" key.
>> I did try alt V but to no avail.
>> 
>> Please give suggestions on how to get back to the best view.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
>> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> 
> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account

[Andy Baracco]

Hi Rick,

Well, I thought my POP and Gmail situation was solved, but even though I can 
now receive messages on my PC from my Gmail account, I get the following 
error when I tried to send from that account.


An unknown error has occurred. Subject 'Test', Account: 'pop.gmail.com', 
Server: 'smtp.gmail.com', Protocol: SMTP, Port: 465, Secure(SSL): Yes, Error 
Number: 0x800CCC0B


Andy


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jart & Jaws

[Maria Campbell]

Tell your friend to write into the clipboard, "enable screen reader 
mode" without the quotes.  Then ope the Jart program.  This should 
enable screen reader mode and show all the menus.



lucky1i...@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small 
things, it does not exist at all.

On 5/26/2017 8:18 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi All,

A friend is asking the following:
Hi all,
JAWS 18.0  and Win 7.
I just updated to the latest free version of JART.
I was fooling around with the menu bar and clicked on "Classic view".
Now I can not pull up the menu bar when I hit the "alt" key.
I did try alt V but to no avail.

Please give suggestions on how to get back to the best view.

Thanks.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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[JAWS-Users] Jart & Jaws

[Mike B.]

Hi All,

A friend is asking the following:
Hi all,
JAWS 18.0  and Win 7.
I just updated to the latest free version of JART.
I was fooling around with the menu bar and clicked on "Classic view".
Now I can not pull up the menu bar when I hit the "alt" key.
I did try alt V but to no avail.

Please give suggestions on how to get back to the best view.

Thanks.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
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end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

[Tim Ford]

Only if you are not totally comfortable with how to find the various Word
features and options.  This became more cumbersome for me when the ribbons
replaced menus in Word, although I am by now comfortable with both types.  

Tim Ford


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of wayne smith
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 11:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

If you already have MS Office is there any reason to use Jart?

Wayne

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Whitehead
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 1:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Hello;
Not sure if you folks no, but, there's a new version of jarte, Jarte 6.1
Installation File http://www.jarte.com/downloads/jarte_61_setup.exe

       Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but
what they conceal is vital.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 2:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Yes I did.  The only problem now is that upon opening Jart it says program
not responding but it does right away.  There must be a delay of some kind.


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On 5/26/2017 2:22 PM, Russ Breitenstein wrote:
> Press F7. Also, did you get the menu strip to appear?
> Take care,
> Russ
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message- From: LeDon
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 10:35 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word 
> processor!
>
> Rus, how do you spell check?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Russ Breitenstein
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 9:10 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word 
> processor!
>
> When I installed Jart only the File menu worked. Press Alt-V and the 
> View menu will appear. Arrow-down and check Main Menu. This will make 
> the menu accessible with the Alt key.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Russ
>
> -Original Message-
> From: LeDon
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 8:26 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word 
> processor!
>
> How do you work the spell check? And How do I learn about the alt key 
> menus?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Tim Ford
> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:29 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word 
> processor!
>
> Thanks Gerald for the information.  I found that all the items we 
> would typically want, including spellcheck, are also on those nice 
> regular alt key menus.  There is also a very cool clipboard memory 
> buffer under the Tools menu.  I highly recommend going through all the 
> available menu items, there are great features there.
>
> Tim Ford
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 9:12 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word 
> processor!
>
>
> Jarte uses the same classic menu structure as Wordpad, upon which it 
> is based.  You just press the Alt key to launch the menus, just as you 
> would with any other program.  To invoke the spell checker, just press F7.
>
> Gerald
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: LeDon
> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:59 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word 
> processor!
>
> Tim you got me excited about using the Jart word processor. But How do 
> I get to the menus? How do I do spell check. Your help will be much 
> appreciated.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Tim Ford
> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 1:38 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!
>
> Hi Andy,
>
> I owe you a great and hardy "Thank you" for telling us about Jarte!  
> It is
> just what I always wanted, a nice easy word processor that is fully 
> compatible with JAWS.  It was easy to download and install.  Folks 
> will find it to have a very familiar feel, and it is easy to explore 
> the menus and find all the features, everything I want, a few nice 
> 

[JAWS-Users] Soulseek and JAWS?

[JM Casey]

Hello everyone. Not exactly new to the list here, but I had been
unsubscribed for a long time because my computer and JAWS version had gotten
so old that there was really no point in me continuing to receive and
contribute to the list. Now I've got a new PC, Windows 10 and JAWS 18, so
I'm back, and with a question even.

I thought I was an old hand at this stuff, but I've recently started to use
the Soulseek client, and I'm having some issues, both with the programme
locking up frequently and, more importantly with regard to this list, not
playing nice with JAWS in unpredictable and obnoxious ways. 

A part of the problem, no doubt, is that as far as I know, a screen reader
user still has to use the old Soulseek NS client, as the QT version, which
is regularly developed and updated, uses a portable/cross-platform library
that doesn't use standard Windows interface controls and so is really a
non-starter with jAWS as far as I can tell. This NS client is really
designed for an older version of Windows and although running it in
compatibility mode (glad Microsoft still includes this feature) seems to
improve things greatly, there are a number of weird things happening.

1. The programme keeps minimising itself or something, so that using the
JAWS cursor, which is necessary (as far as I can tell) to use most of the
programme's functionality, becomes impossible. Sometimes I am locked out of
the menu bar for minutes at a time.

2. Right clicking on things seems to cause JAWS to spontaneously crash about
80% of the time.

3. The application key doesn't seem to act on the item in focus. What I mean
is, if you find an item that interests you, you can get a context menu with
options to "download containing folder" etc, but it pertains to a completely
different item. Simulating an actual mouse click seems to have unpredictable
results, although it works some of the time.

4. I can not figure out how to search for a user. My friend did this when I
logged in, instantly finding me and adding me to his user list. But I cannot
seem to do the same. There may be a graphical button that I need to click?

So, any JAWS users, particularly (but not exclusively) those using Windows
10, also using this programme? It is pretty neat and I'd like to find a way
to make it more stable. Any pointers, tips, tricks ... are greatly
appreciated. Cheers and thanks.

JM



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Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

[David Ferrin]

Guess it is a good thing I didn't get too fancy with my calculations, thanks 
Mike.


-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 1:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

Because that's the number of seconds in 1 hour.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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From: Kimsan

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button


Why 3600. I'm confused there.

Respectfully,
Kimsan Song
kimsans...@icloud.com

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Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 3:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

The following commands will shutdown and reboot your system:

shutdown -s -f -t 00

shutdown -r -f -t 00

Note: the notation of 00 means the system will perform the task right away.
So say you wanted it to shutdown in an hour, then change the number to 3600.

Also note, any time more than 00 you do not need to include the -f switch
because it is assumed at that point.

I always create such icons on any system I work on, no matter if it is mine
or not. It is just something to make life a little easier.

-Original Message-
From: Lenny McHugh
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 5:48 AM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

I very seldom use my hp laptop. I am using a wireless full size keyboard,
latest jaws 18, win 10. It looks like the only way that I can shut down the
laptop is with the power button. I thought in the past that alt f4 on the
desktop would reveal those options. I tried using the down or up arrow in
the running apps and also on the desktop.
Any help appreciated.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] image backup worked

[David Ferrin]

I love it when a plan comes together. A quote from John Hannibal Smith AKA 
the leader of the A team.


-Original Message- 
From: Lenny McHugh

Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 5:55 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] image backup worked

David, Thanks I installed end it all and ran it. Then stopped the wifi and
the backup was flawless.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

[David Ferrin]

-f forces all running programs to shutdown. -t is for the time in seconds as 
was previously mentioned. Last but not least -s is for shutdown and -r is 
for reboot.


-Original Message- 
From: Scorpio

Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 4:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

Hi David,

What are the switches, what do they stand for?

Scorpio

-Original Message-
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 6:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

The following commands will shutdown and reboot your system:

shutdown -s -f -t 00

shutdown -r -f -t 00

Note: the notation of 00 means the system will perform the task right away.
So say you wanted it to shutdown in an hour, then change the number to 3600.
Also note, any time more than 00 you do not need to include the -f switch
because it is assumed at that point.

I always create such icons on any system I work on, no matter if it is mine
or not. It is just something to make life a little easier.

-Original Message-
From: Lenny McHugh
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 5:48 AM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

I very seldom use my hp laptop. I am using a wireless full size keyboard,
latest jaws 18, win 10. It looks like the only way that I can shut down the
laptop is with the power button. I thought in the past that alt f4 on the
desktop would reveal those options. I tried using the down or up arrow in
the running apps and also on the desktop.
Any help appreciated.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Voice Volume

[Mike B.]

Hi Tom,

When you say, "navigating with the Jaws cursor", where exactly are you 
navigating?  Are you inside the Jaws context menu, from the desktop, 
Explorer..., & what operating system are you running?.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Tom Fairhurst
To: List Jaws
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 2:51 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Voice Volume


Is it possible to change the voice volume in JAWS 18? When navigating with 
the JAWS cursor, I see the volume setting but can’t tab to it.
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[JAWS-Users] image backup worked

[Lenny McHugh]

David, Thanks I installed end it all and ran it. Then stopped the wifi and 
the backup was flawless.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with Word

[Mike B.]

Hi Vicki,

Are you saying that you have documents of your own that Jaws doesn't read 
all these attributes, but you've received documents from elsewhere that when 
opened Jaws does read the attributes?  Or, is Jaws reading all this crap in 
all documents?  If it's in all documents, you might have accidentally 
changed the scheme.  To check your Word scheme press, Jaws key, Alt, + S.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Vicki
To: JAWS
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 1:09 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] problem with Word


I have recently received several Word documents which, when opened, will 
read all of the attrributes,  bold, the colors, etc. How can I turn this off 
in an existing document so it will not read without editing?

This would be in both Word 2003 and Word 2010.

Thanks.

Vicki
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[JAWS-Users] turning off internet

[Lenny McHugh]

Some time ago I lost a lot of emails. David had sent instructions on how to 
set it up. That email was among the ones that I lost. I made the mistake of 
stopping the wifi network and now having problems reestablishing it. If 
those instructions are easy to locate I would like them again.


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[JAWS-Users] Voice Volume

[Tom Fairhurst]

Is it possible to change the voice volume in JAWS 18? When navigating with the 
JAWS cursor, I see the volume setting but can’t tab to it.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] need detailed instructions regarding jaws and upgrading to win10 using upgrade assistant

[Joseph Lee]

Hi,
I will forward this query to a Windows 10 group.
Cheers,
Joseph

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Behalf Of joanne
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 1:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] need detailed instructions regarding jaws and
upgrading to win10 using upgrade assistant

I am using the upgrade assistant to download windows 10.  I have both Jaws
16 and 18 and right now I have windows 7.  I won't restart my computer till
I receive help from some who may have used the upgrade assistant and were
successful getting up and running with Jaws.

When I restart my computer what will happen?  Will there be no speech?  Will
I have lost my Jaws key because I upgraded to 10?  Once Jaws is in--if I
still have a key--what do I do to make 10 look more like 7 or other
simpler-appearing versions of windows?  I have seen windows 10 and the menus
are really foreign to me and I simply don't need all the apps or tiles or
whatever these things are called.  I used to use Classic Shell when getting
used to 7 but I don't know if Classic Shell has been updated to be used in
windows 10.

I have backed up files but will I lose anything else of importance I may not
have thought of?

Thanks for helping me get started.

Joanne
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[JAWS-Users] More on antivirus

[wayne smith]

I was going over the PCMag.com reviews for -anti-virus programs and
Bitdefender and Casperski have high ratings.  Malwarebytes is not so well
liked.  Does anyone have experience with these 2 or other paid virus
protection?

 

Wayne

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[JAWS-Users] need detailed instructions regarding jaws and upgrading to win10 using upgrade assistant

[joanne]

I am using the upgrade assistant to download windows 10.  I have both Jaws 16 
and 18 and right now I have windows 7.  I won't restart my computer till I 
receive help from some who may have used the upgrade assistant and were 
successful getting up and running with Jaws.

When I restart my computer what will happen?  Will there be no speech?  Will I 
have lost my Jaws key because I upgraded to 10?  Once Jaws is in--if I still 
have a key--what do I do to make 10 look more like 7 or other simpler-appearing 
versions of windows?  I have seen windows 10 and the menus are really foreign 
to me and I simply don't need all the apps or tiles or whatever these things 
are called.  I used to use Classic Shell when getting used to 7 but I don't 
know if Classic Shell has been updated to be used in windows 10.

I have backed up files but will I lose anything else of importance I may not 
have thought of?

Thanks for helping me get started.

Joanne
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Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

[Scorpio]

Hi Lenny,

There are a few things that I've experienced that have helped me in a 
similar situation, especially if your laptop is a fairly new one.


First and foremost, you should confirm that the function, or FN key is not 
active.  In other words, are you able to shut down an application using the 
alt+F4 command, or do you have to press a third key to accomplish this task.


If the former, you need do nothing, if the latter, depending on which 
company your laptop is from, you may be able to switch this function off, 
either by using the laptop's native software for modifying it's settings, 
these are usually provided by the brand of your laptop, i.e. Toshiba, HP, 
Dell, etc.  If these tools are not available to you, or you don't have 
access t the feature, then you must go through the BIOS set up, and make the 
changes there.


I'm sorry, but I cannot provide detailed instructions on how to do this, as 
it's been a long time since I've seen the BIOS set up screen, but the status 
of the function keys are clearly labeled, so, if you have sighted 
assistance, they can explain what's on the screen, and you can go from 
there.  There is a little section of the BIOS screen that houses an 
explanation of what each item in the list allows you to change, so if the 
person uses the arrow keys or mouse to single click on any option, the 
explanation will appear on the right side of the screen.  I don't think 
that's changed in the years I've lost my sight.


Second thing you want to examine is if you may have another application open 
in the background that you may not be aware of.  On my friend's laptop, and 
on my own that I purchased a few years ago, I found that the camera 
application was taking over the screen, so when ever I had shut down all 
applications, it turned out that I hadn't even though Jaws reported that I 
had landed on the desktop, I hadn't, and had landed on the camera 
application, which was always on top of the OS, thus constantly frustrating 
my efforts to go to the desktop once my applications were closed.


This option can be shut down on two ways, by going to the task manager with 
control+shift+escape, then, once in the task manager window, control+tab to 
the services tab, arrow down the list of services until you find the one 
that deals with the camera, and set it to manual.  This may or may not be 
desirable, especially if you have sighted people who use the camera function 
for Skype or some other video application.  The other way to shut down this 
feature is to go through the MS Configuration file, which you can get to 
using the Windows+R command, then typing in, "msconfig", without the quotes, 
and pressing enter.


On the resulting screen, control+tab to the services tab, and the start-up 
tab, and uncheck any items that have to do with the camera.  Again, same 
caveat as the above for sighted users of the computer.


One thing though, if you get to the services tab and you find less than 
seventy-five items in the list, then you may have the checkbox to hide all 
Microsoft services checked, so press the spacebar to uncheck it, then 
shift+tab back to the list and you should now see a large number of items in 
the list.


The third and final thing you may have going on is that you may have the 
taskbar set to hide until you arrow to it, or you press the start key. 
Fortunately, this can readily be fixed by pressing windows key+I, then in 
the search bar, type "taskbar" without the quotes, and press enter.  The 
result should automatically be spoken by Jaws, which is taskbar settings, so 
press enter to go directly to that option in your settings.


When the page loads up, you'll land on the search field, so tab around, and 
you'll land on taskbar, which is where you want to be.


Keep tabbing until you find the above options, and make sure they are 
unchecked.  You'll know they are unchecked if Jaws reads out that they are 
simple buttons.  If they are checked, Jaws will report it as so.


Hopefully, any of all of the above will allow you to return to what you're 
most comfortable with.  Good luck.


Scorpio 



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Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

[Scorpio]

Hi David,

What are the switches, what do they stand for?

Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 6:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

The following commands will shutdown and reboot your system:

shutdown -s -f -t 00

shutdown -r -f -t 00

Note: the notation of 00 means the system will perform the task right away.
So say you wanted it to shutdown in an hour, then change the number to 3600.
Also note, any time more than 00 you do not need to include the -f switch
because it is assumed at that point.

I always create such icons on any system I work on, no matter if it is mine
or not. It is just something to make life a little easier.

-Original Message- 
From: Lenny McHugh

Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 5:48 AM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

I very seldom use my hp laptop. I am using a wireless full size keyboard,
latest jaws 18, win 10. It looks like the only way that I can shut down the
laptop is with the power button. I thought in the past that alt f4 on the
desktop would reveal those options. I tried using the down or up arrow in
the running apps and also on the desktop.
Any help appreciated.


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[JAWS-Users] problem with Word

[Vicki]

I have recently received several Word documents which, when opened, will read 
all of the attrributes,  bold, the colors, etc. How can I turn this off in an 
existing document so it will not read without editing?

This would be in both Word 2003 and Word 2010.

Thanks.

Vicki
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDf Articles

[Justin Williams]

If it's not working properly, try insert space bar, the letter o, then the
letter d.  If you haven't already.  I didn't go through this entire thread.
If you have open book, try the freedom import reader.
 Justin
 

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 2:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDf
Articles

Some pdf's  contain both 'straight' text and imaged text. Therefore only the
straight text is read by a screen-reader (when not using OCR).

-Original Message-
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 6:26 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDf
Articles

I tried this, but had no luck with the particular documents I've been
working with.

Once again, the only way I could get the full document was to run it through
Jaws Convenient OCR, and then copy and paste it into a notepad text file.

Not quite sure why the usual strategies haven't worked in the case of these
documents.

Tom Behler


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>On
Behalf Of Rose
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 10:47 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDf
Articles

When you get the reading untagged document dialog from Acrobat, select read
whole document and then you may press insert down arrow and read
continuously once all pages have been processed.



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>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
>On
Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:15 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDf
Articles

Hi Tom

To move to the next page in a PDF document press control+down arrow.  To
move to the previous page, press control+up arrow.


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>On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 12:04
To: 'Jaws users list'
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDf Articles

Hello, everyone.



I am having a problem reading a few PDF articles I have just been sent.



Once I open the attachments, via Adobe Acrobat DC, I find that I cannot
advance beyond the first page of each article, either via the arrow keys, or
the page up and page down keys.



Interestingly, when I use my arrow keys and the page up or down keys, the
visual sscreen advances with no problem.  In other words, Jaws appears to be
stuck on the first page and is unable to advance through the rest of the
file.



I'm using Windows 7 and the latest build of Jaws 18 here, along with Adobe
Acrobat DC.



Any suggestions would be apreciated.



Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox help needed please

[Adrian Spratt]

Dennis,
My apologies. I made an assumption that Firefox has options similar to those in 
IE, but I see I was wrong. The answer must lie in Firefox itself, where the 
term of art seems to be 'autofill." In case it helps lead you to a solution, 
here's the Google results page I just created:
https://www.google.com/search?site==hp=how+do+i+disable+autofill+in+firefox+53+search+field%3F=how+do+i+disable+autofill+in+firefox+53+search+field%3F_l=hp.3...2488.19976.0.20836.53.53.0.0.0.0.410.5983.24j28j4-1.53.00...1.1.64.hp..0.48.5559...0j0i131k1j0i3k1j0i22i30k1j33i160k1j33i21k1.M3MCFJLlJlo


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Dennis Long
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 1:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox help needed please

I didn't any such settings that said auto complete.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 1:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox help needed please

Check the autocomplete options in the quick settings (JAWS key+v) with Firefox 
open.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Dennis Long
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 11:07 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Firefox help needed please

Hi, how do I prevent Jaws or any screen reader from  saying something like 
m.yahoo when I start to type an address into the address bar?  I also want to 
prevent it from showing a list of possible sites that it could be in a list as 
I type.  I would love to get rid of all search engines but I don't see how this 
is possible I looked under search.  I'm using latest Firefox any help is 
appreciated.

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDf Articles

[Flor Lynch]

Some pdf's  contain both 'straight' text and imaged text. Therefore only the 
straight text is read by a screen-reader (when not using OCR).


-Original Message- 
From: Tom Behler

Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 6:26 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDf 
Articles


I tried this, but had no luck with the particular documents I've been
working with.

Once again, the only way I could get the full document was to run it through
Jaws Convenient OCR, and then copy and paste it into a notepad text file.

Not quite sure why the usual strategies haven't worked in the case of these
documents.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-

From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On

Behalf Of Rose
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 10:47 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDf
Articles

When you get the reading untagged document dialog from Acrobat, select read
whole document and then you may press insert down arrow and read
continuously once all pages have been processed.



-Original Message-

From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On

Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:15 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDf
Articles

Hi Tom

To move to the next page in a PDF document press control+down arrow.  To
move to the previous page, press control+up arrow.


-Original Message-

From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On

Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 12:04
To: 'Jaws users list'
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDf Articles

Hello, everyone.



I am having a problem reading a few PDF articles I have just been sent.



Once I open the attachments, via Adobe Acrobat DC, I find that I cannot
advance beyond the first page of each article, either via the arrow keys, or
the page up and page down keys.



Interestingly, when I use my arrow keys and the page up or down keys, the
visual sscreen advances with no problem.  In other words, Jaws appears to be
stuck on the first page and is unable to advance through the rest of the
file.



I'm using Windows 7 and the latest build of Jaws 18 here, along with Adobe
Acrobat DC.



Any suggestions would be apreciated.



Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

[wayne smith]

If you already have MS Office is there any reason to use Jart?

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Whitehead
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 1:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Hello;
Not sure if you folks no, but, there's a new version of jarte, Jarte 6.1
Installation File http://www.jarte.com/downloads/jarte_61_setup.exe

       Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but
what they conceal is vital.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 2:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Yes I did.  The only problem now is that upon opening Jart it says program
not responding but it does right away.  There must be a delay of some kind.


lucky1i...@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small
things, it does not exist at all.

On 5/26/2017 2:22 PM, Russ Breitenstein wrote:
> Press F7. Also, did you get the menu strip to appear?
> Take care,
> Russ
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message- From: LeDon
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 10:35 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word 
> processor!
>
> Rus, how do you spell check?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Russ Breitenstein
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 9:10 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word 
> processor!
>
> When I installed Jart only the File menu worked. Press Alt-V and the 
> View menu will appear. Arrow-down and check Main Menu. This will make 
> the menu accessible with the Alt key.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Russ
>
> -Original Message-
> From: LeDon
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 8:26 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word 
> processor!
>
> How do you work the spell check? And How do I learn about the alt key 
> menus?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Tim Ford
> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:29 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word 
> processor!
>
> Thanks Gerald for the information.  I found that all the items we 
> would typically want, including spellcheck, are also on those nice 
> regular alt key menus.  There is also a very cool clipboard memory 
> buffer under the Tools menu.  I highly recommend going through all the 
> available menu items, there are great features there.
>
> Tim Ford
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 9:12 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word 
> processor!
>
>
> Jarte uses the same classic menu structure as Wordpad, upon which it 
> is based.  You just press the Alt key to launch the menus, just as you 
> would with any other program.  To invoke the spell checker, just press F7.
>
> Gerald
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: LeDon
> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:59 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word 
> processor!
>
> Tim you got me excited about using the Jart word processor. But How do 
> I get to the menus? How do I do spell check. Your help will be much 
> appreciated.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Tim Ford
> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 1:38 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!
>
> Hi Andy,
>
> I owe you a great and hardy "Thank you" for telling us about Jarte!  
> It is
> just what I always wanted, a nice easy word processor that is fully 
> compatible with JAWS.  It was easy to download and install.  Folks 
> will find it to have a very familiar feel, and it is easy to explore 
> the menus and find all the features, everything I want, a few nice 
> extras, but not as much of the wild stuff the Microsoft Word program 
> has.  It also has a nice regular old menu system.
>
> So for those who did not notice his post, please consider Jarte. I can 
> already tell that I will use it a lot, perhaps as my default word 
> processor.
> It is certainly the solution for those who have only WordPad.
>
> A post-installation note.  When you first launch the program for the 
> purpose of real work, watch for the following.  When you first go to 
> open your file 

Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

[David Whitehead]

Hello Lenny;

If you wish to create a shutdown shortcut,
Try the following;

1, desktop,
Ctrl+spacebar to unselect any icon,

2, applications key, down arrow enter on, new sub-menu,
Now choose shortcut,

3, in the edit box type in,
Shutdown -s -t 0

Now tab next, you can give the shortcut a name, example,
Shortcut.exe,
Now go to finish.
Now if you desire, you could create a hotkey for the shortcut.
If you wanted to have a shortcut to restart you would use the same steps,
instead of zero at the end, use, 01
Hope this helps.

       Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but
what they conceal is vital.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 11:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

I am using a full size keyboard that is wireless.

-Original Message- 
From: michaels mail
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 6:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

Hi Lenny just press the FN key witch is the function key next to the
left control key.
Just holdthe FN key down and press the alt f 4 as well.
Cheers Michael.

-Original Message- 
From: Lenny McHugh
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 7:48 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

I very seldom use my hp laptop. I am using a wireless full size keyboard,
latest jaws 18, win 10. It looks like the only way that I can shut down the
laptop is with the power button. I thought in the past that alt f4 on the
desktop would reveal those options. I tried using the down or up arrow in
the running apps and also on the desktop.
Any help appreciated.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

[Kimsan Song]

ah, ok.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 26, 2017, at 10:30 AM, Mike B.  wrote:
> 
> Because that's the number of seconds in 1 hour.
> Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
> Sent from my iBarstool.
> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
> - Original Message - 
> From: Kimsan
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 10:16 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button
> 
> 
> Why 3600. I'm confused there.
> 
> Respectfully,
> Kimsan Song
> kimsans...@icloud.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of David Ferrin
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 3:27 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button
> 
> The following commands will shutdown and reboot your system:
> 
> shutdown -s -f -t 00
> 
> shutdown -r -f -t 00
> 
> Note: the notation of 00 means the system will perform the task right away.
> So say you wanted it to shutdown in an hour, then change the number to 3600.
> 
> Also note, any time more than 00 you do not need to include the -f switch
> because it is assumed at that point.
> 
> I always create such icons on any system I work on, no matter if it is mine
> or not. It is just something to make life a little easier.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Lenny McHugh
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 5:48 AM
> To: JFW List
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button
> 
> I very seldom use my hp laptop. I am using a wireless full size keyboard,
> latest jaws 18, win 10. It looks like the only way that I can shut down the
> laptop is with the power button. I thought in the past that alt f4 on the
> desktop would reveal those options. I tried using the down or up arrow in
> the running apps and also on the desktop.
> Any help appreciated.
> 
> 
> ---
> 
> Please visit my web page
> 
> It's motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor
> 
> There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind
> 
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> 
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> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

[David Whitehead]

Hello;
Don't forget, when you install jarte,
You need to have, the words,
"enable Screen Reader Mode" copied to the windows clip board.
Now when you open the jarte program, it will be set to the screen reader
mode.


       Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but
what they conceal is vital.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 2:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Not a Windows 10 problem.  I have the latest Windows 10 version, including
that creator thing.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 9:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Now that is very strange, because it sure isn't easy to get this program
easy to set up with accessibility.  Unless, Windows 10 is fighting the
interface?


lucky1i...@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small
things, it does not exist at all.

On 5/26/2017 12:45 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:
> If I'm not mistaken, the developer is blind. His name is on the tip of my
tongue as I write, but it eludes me.
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 12:32 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!
>
> I wish there was some way to contact the developer to see about
accessibility settings?
>
>
> lucky1i...@gmail.com
> Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small
things, it does not exist at all.
>
> On 5/26/2017 12:27 PM, Tim Ford wrote:
>> Very strange.  Later today when I get done with some business calls, 
>> I am going to uninstall Jarte, start from scratch, and see if there 
>> was some key install process button I happened across that caused my 
>> version to be totally fine and accessible right off the bat.  I will
report back!
>>
>> Tim Ford
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
>> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 9:17 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word
processor!
>>
>> Mine doesn't say that.  My version doesn't seem to be very stable, 
>> either for when I open it, it says Jart not responding, but then it 
>> seems more or less OK.  I just upgraded to the newest version.  I 
>> imagine there are settings I'm not aware of to make it like yours, 
>> but at least I got the alt menus to work.
>>
>>
>>
>> lucky1i...@gmail.com
>> Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in 
>> small things, it does not exist at all.
>>
>> On 5/26/2017 10:58 AM, Tim Ford wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I cannot now recall the exact sequence of events, but when I bring 
>>> up Jarte, the title line (JAWS key plus t), says "Jarte (screen reader
mode)"
>>>From what seems apparent, Jarte is intended to be screen reader
friendly.
>>> If you are not getting that same title line, then probably someone 
>>> on this list will know how to get that setting correct.  It might 
>>> also require a re-boot to take effect, or maybe Jarte needs to be 
>>> uninstalled and reinstalled, but somehow it Jarte caught on I was 
>>> using a screen reader and was easy as pie from the beginning.  I 
>>> never understood that easy as pie slogan.
>>>
>>> Tim Ford
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: JAWS-Users-List 
>>> [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>>> On Behalf Of LeDon
>>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 7:36 AM
>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word
processor!
>>>
>>> Rus, how do you spell check?
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: JAWS-Users-List 
>>> [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>>> On Behalf Of Russ Breitenstein
>>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 9:10 AM
>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word
processor!
>>>
>>> When I installed Jart only the File menu worked. Press Alt-V and the 
>>> View menu will appear. Arrow-down and check Main Menu. This will 
>>> make the menu accessible with the Alt key.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> Russ
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: LeDon
>>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 8:26 AM
>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word
processor!
>>>
>>> How do you work the spell check? And How do I learn about the alt 
>>> key
>> menus?
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

[David Whitehead]

Hello;
Not sure if you folks no, but, there's a new version of jarte,
Jarte 6.1 Installation File
http://www.jarte.com/downloads/jarte_61_setup.exe

       Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but
what they conceal is vital.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 2:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Yes I did.  The only problem now is that upon opening Jart it says 
program not responding but it does right away.  There must be a delay of 
some kind.


lucky1i...@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small
things, it does not exist at all.

On 5/26/2017 2:22 PM, Russ Breitenstein wrote:
> Press F7. Also, did you get the menu strip to appear?
> Take care,
> Russ
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message- From: LeDon
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 10:35 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word 
> processor!
>
> Rus, how do you spell check?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Russ Breitenstein
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 9:10 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word 
> processor!
>
> When I installed Jart only the File menu worked. Press Alt-V and the View
> menu will appear. Arrow-down and check Main Menu. This will make the menu
> accessible with the Alt key.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Russ
>
> -Original Message-
> From: LeDon
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 8:26 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word 
> processor!
>
> How do you work the spell check? And How do I learn about the alt key 
> menus?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Tim Ford
> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:29 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word 
> processor!
>
> Thanks Gerald for the information.  I found that all the items we would
> typically want, including spellcheck, are also on those nice regular 
> alt key
> menus.  There is also a very cool clipboard memory buffer under the Tools
> menu.  I highly recommend going through all the available menu items, 
> there
> are great features there.
>
> Tim Ford
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Gerald Levy
> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 9:12 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word 
> processor!
>
>
> Jarte uses the same classic menu structure as Wordpad, upon which it is
> based.  You just press the Alt key to launch the menus, just as you would
> with any other program.  To invoke the spell checker, just press F7.
>
> Gerald
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: LeDon
> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:59 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word 
> processor!
>
> Tim you got me excited about using the Jart word processor. But How do 
> I get
> to the menus? How do I do spell check. Your help will be much 
> appreciated.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Tim Ford
> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 1:38 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!
>
> Hi Andy,
>
> I owe you a great and hardy "Thank you" for telling us about Jarte!  
> It is
> just what I always wanted, a nice easy word processor that is fully
> compatible with JAWS.  It was easy to download and install.  Folks 
> will find
> it to have a very familiar feel, and it is easy to explore the menus and
> find all the features, everything I want, a few nice extras, but not 
> as much
> of the wild stuff the Microsoft Word program has.  It also has a nice
> regular old menu system.
>
> So for those who did not notice his post, please consider Jarte. I can
> already tell that I will use it a lot, perhaps as my default word 
> processor.
> It is certainly the solution for those who have only WordPad.
>
> A post-installation note.  When you first launch the program for the 
> purpose
> of real work, watch for the following.  When you first go to open your 
> file
> list, the old familiar control + o key, you need to set the file 
> type.  By
> default, it is set to RTF only, meaning that when you tab to the file 
> list,
> you will see only the folders, and only those files that are in RTF 
> format.
>
>
> Instead, tab to the file type field, and Arrow down to the format you 
> want
> to see in the 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

[Tim Ford]

Not a Windows 10 problem.  I have the latest Windows 10 version, including
that creator thing.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 9:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Now that is very strange, because it sure isn't easy to get this program
easy to set up with accessibility.  Unless, Windows 10 is fighting the
interface?


lucky1i...@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small
things, it does not exist at all.

On 5/26/2017 12:45 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:
> If I'm not mistaken, the developer is blind. His name is on the tip of my
tongue as I write, but it eludes me.
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 12:32 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!
>
> I wish there was some way to contact the developer to see about
accessibility settings?
>
>
> lucky1i...@gmail.com
> Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small
things, it does not exist at all.
>
> On 5/26/2017 12:27 PM, Tim Ford wrote:
>> Very strange.  Later today when I get done with some business calls, 
>> I am going to uninstall Jarte, start from scratch, and see if there 
>> was some key install process button I happened across that caused my 
>> version to be totally fine and accessible right off the bat.  I will
report back!
>>
>> Tim Ford
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
>> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 9:17 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word
processor!
>>
>> Mine doesn't say that.  My version doesn't seem to be very stable, 
>> either for when I open it, it says Jart not responding, but then it 
>> seems more or less OK.  I just upgraded to the newest version.  I 
>> imagine there are settings I'm not aware of to make it like yours, 
>> but at least I got the alt menus to work.
>>
>>
>>
>> lucky1i...@gmail.com
>> Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in 
>> small things, it does not exist at all.
>>
>> On 5/26/2017 10:58 AM, Tim Ford wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I cannot now recall the exact sequence of events, but when I bring 
>>> up Jarte, the title line (JAWS key plus t), says "Jarte (screen reader
mode)"
>>>From what seems apparent, Jarte is intended to be screen reader
friendly.
>>> If you are not getting that same title line, then probably someone 
>>> on this list will know how to get that setting correct.  It might 
>>> also require a re-boot to take effect, or maybe Jarte needs to be 
>>> uninstalled and reinstalled, but somehow it Jarte caught on I was 
>>> using a screen reader and was easy as pie from the beginning.  I 
>>> never understood that easy as pie slogan.
>>>
>>> Tim Ford
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: JAWS-Users-List 
>>> [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>>> On Behalf Of LeDon
>>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 7:36 AM
>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word
processor!
>>>
>>> Rus, how do you spell check?
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: JAWS-Users-List 
>>> [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>>> On Behalf Of Russ Breitenstein
>>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 9:10 AM
>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word
processor!
>>>
>>> When I installed Jart only the File menu worked. Press Alt-V and the 
>>> View menu will appear. Arrow-down and check Main Menu. This will 
>>> make the menu accessible with the Alt key.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> Russ
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: LeDon
>>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 8:26 AM
>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word
processor!
>>>
>>> How do you work the spell check? And How do I learn about the alt 
>>> key
>> menus?
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: JAWS-Users-List 
>>> [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>>> On Behalf Of Tim Ford
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:29 AM
>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word
processor!
>>>
>>> Thanks Gerald for the information.  I found that all the items we 
>>> would typically want, including spellcheck, are also on those nice 
>>> regular alt key menus.  There is also a very cool clipboard memory 
>>> buffer under the Tools menu.  I highly recommend going through all 
>>> the available menu items, there are great 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

[Tim Ford]

No, just using the free version.

Tim Ford


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 9:44 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Perhaps you have the paid version for better stability and accessibility?


lucky1i...@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small
things, it does not exist at all.

On 5/26/2017 12:27 PM, Tim Ford wrote:
> Very strange.  Later today when I get done with some business calls, I 
> am going to uninstall Jarte, start from scratch, and see if there was 
> some key install process button I happened across that caused my 
> version to be totally fine and accessible right off the bat.  I will
report back!
>
> Tim Ford
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 9:17 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!
>
> Mine doesn't say that.  My version doesn't seem to be very stable, 
> either for when I open it, it says Jart not responding, but then it 
> seems more or less OK.  I just upgraded to the newest version.  I 
> imagine there are settings I'm not aware of to make it like yours, but 
> at least I got the alt menus to work.
>
>
>
> lucky1i...@gmail.com
> Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in 
> small things, it does not exist at all.
>
> On 5/26/2017 10:58 AM, Tim Ford wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I cannot now recall the exact sequence of events, but when I bring up 
>> Jarte, the title line (JAWS key plus t), says "Jarte (screen reader
mode)"
>>   From what seems apparent, Jarte is intended to be screen reader
friendly.
>> If you are not getting that same title line, then probably someone on 
>> this list will know how to get that setting correct.  It might also 
>> require a re-boot to take effect, or maybe Jarte needs to be 
>> uninstalled and reinstalled, but somehow it Jarte caught on I was 
>> using a screen reader and was easy as pie from the beginning.  I 
>> never understood that easy as pie slogan.
>>
>> Tim Ford
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>> On Behalf Of LeDon
>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 7:36 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word
processor!
>>
>> Rus, how do you spell check?
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>> On Behalf Of Russ Breitenstein
>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 9:10 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word
processor!
>>
>> When I installed Jart only the File menu worked. Press Alt-V and the 
>> View menu will appear. Arrow-down and check Main Menu. This will make 
>> the menu accessible with the Alt key.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>> Russ
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: LeDon
>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 8:26 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word
processor!
>>
>> How do you work the spell check? And How do I learn about the alt key
> menus?
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>> On Behalf Of Tim Ford
>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:29 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word
processor!
>>
>> Thanks Gerald for the information.  I found that all the items we 
>> would typically want, including spellcheck, are also on those nice 
>> regular alt key menus.  There is also a very cool clipboard memory 
>> buffer under the Tools menu.  I highly recommend going through all 
>> the available menu items, there are great features there.
>>
>> Tim Ford
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 9:12 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word
processor!
>>
>>
>> Jarte uses the same classic menu structure as Wordpad, upon which it 
>> is based.  You just press the Alt key to launch the menus, just as 
>> you would with any other program.  To invoke the spell checker, just
press F7.
>>
>> Gerald
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: LeDon
>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:59 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word
processor!
>>
>> Tim you got me excited about using the Jart word processor. But How 
>> do I get to the menus? How do I do spell check. Your help will 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

[Maria Campbell]

Yes I did.  The only problem now is that upon opening Jart it says 
program not responding but it does right away.  There must be a delay of 
some kind.



lucky1i...@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small 
things, it does not exist at all.

On 5/26/2017 2:22 PM, Russ Breitenstein wrote:

Press F7. Also, did you get the menu strip to appear?
Take care,
Russ




-Original Message- From: LeDon
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 10:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word 
processor!


Rus, how do you spell check?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Russ Breitenstein
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 9:10 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word 
processor!


When I installed Jart only the File menu worked. Press Alt-V and the View
menu will appear. Arrow-down and check Main Menu. This will make the menu
accessible with the Alt key.

Hope this helps,
Russ

-Original Message-
From: LeDon
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 8:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word 
processor!


How do you work the spell check? And How do I learn about the alt key 
menus?


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:29 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word 
processor!


Thanks Gerald for the information.  I found that all the items we would
typically want, including spellcheck, are also on those nice regular 
alt key

menus.  There is also a very cool clipboard memory buffer under the Tools
menu.  I highly recommend going through all the available menu items, 
there

are great features there.

Tim Ford


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 9:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word 
processor!



Jarte uses the same classic menu structure as Wordpad, upon which it is
based.  You just press the Alt key to launch the menus, just as you would
with any other program.  To invoke the spell checker, just press F7.

Gerald



-Original Message-
From: LeDon
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word 
processor!


Tim you got me excited about using the Jart word processor. But How do 
I get
to the menus? How do I do spell check. Your help will be much 
appreciated.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 1:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Hi Andy,

I owe you a great and hardy "Thank you" for telling us about Jarte!  
It is

just what I always wanted, a nice easy word processor that is fully
compatible with JAWS.  It was easy to download and install.  Folks 
will find

it to have a very familiar feel, and it is easy to explore the menus and
find all the features, everything I want, a few nice extras, but not 
as much

of the wild stuff the Microsoft Word program has.  It also has a nice
regular old menu system.

So for those who did not notice his post, please consider Jarte. I can
already tell that I will use it a lot, perhaps as my default word 
processor.

It is certainly the solution for those who have only WordPad.

A post-installation note.  When you first launch the program for the 
purpose
of real work, watch for the following.  When you first go to open your 
file
list, the old familiar control + o key, you need to set the file 
type.  By
default, it is set to RTF only, meaning that when you tab to the file 
list,
you will see only the folders, and only those files that are in RTF 
format.



Instead, tab to the file type field, and Arrow down to the format you 
want
to see in the file list, or arrow down to the bottom, about 5 times, 
to the

all-format view.  Whatever format option you choose, just press enter.
Then, just do the shift tab a couple of times and there is the list of 
all
folders, and depending upon your file type selection discussed above, 
your

list of files.  If you do not do this step, you will see only the list of
folders, if any, and only RTF files, if any, in the folder.  I assume 
there
is a way to set the default file type, but I have not learned that 
much yet,
and for beginners of Jarte, it is probably best to just check the file 
type

box each time, or you will be greatly confused wondering where your files
and folders are!


I put in below the link to the Jarte web page 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

[Russ Breitenstein]

Press F7. Also, did you get the menu strip to appear?
Take care,
Russ




-Original Message- 
From: LeDon

Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 10:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Rus, how do you spell check?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Russ Breitenstein
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 9:10 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

When I installed Jart only the File menu worked. Press Alt-V and the View
menu will appear. Arrow-down and check Main Menu. This will make the menu
accessible with the Alt key.

Hope this helps,
Russ

-Original Message-
From: LeDon
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 8:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

How do you work the spell check? And How do I learn about the alt key menus?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:29 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Thanks Gerald for the information.  I found that all the items we would
typically want, including spellcheck, are also on those nice regular alt key
menus.  There is also a very cool clipboard memory buffer under the Tools
menu.  I highly recommend going through all the available menu items, there
are great features there.

Tim Ford


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 9:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!


Jarte uses the same classic menu structure as Wordpad, upon which it is
based.  You just press the Alt key to launch the menus, just as you would
with any other program.  To invoke the spell checker, just press F7.

Gerald



-Original Message-
From: LeDon
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Tim you got me excited about using the Jart word processor. But How do I get
to the menus? How do I do spell check. Your help will be much appreciated.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 1:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Hi Andy,

I owe you a great and hardy "Thank you" for telling us about Jarte!  It is
just what I always wanted, a nice easy word processor that is fully
compatible with JAWS.  It was easy to download and install.  Folks will find
it to have a very familiar feel, and it is easy to explore the menus and
find all the features, everything I want, a few nice extras, but not as much
of the wild stuff the Microsoft Word program has.  It also has a nice
regular old menu system.

So for those who did not notice his post, please consider Jarte.  I can
already tell that I will use it a lot, perhaps as my default word processor.
It is certainly the solution for those who have only WordPad.

A post-installation note.  When you first launch the program for the purpose
of real work, watch for the following.  When you first go to open your file
list, the old familiar control + o key, you need to set the file type.  By
default, it is set to RTF only, meaning that when you tab to the file list,
you will see only the folders, and only those files that are in RTF format.


Instead, tab to the file type field, and Arrow down to the format you want
to see in the file list, or arrow down to the bottom, about 5 times, to the
all-format view.  Whatever format option you choose, just press enter.
Then, just do the shift tab a couple of times and there is the list of all
folders, and depending upon your file type selection discussed above, your
list of files.  If you do not do this step, you will see only the list of
folders, if any, and only RTF files, if any, in the folder.  I assume there
is a way to set the default file type, but I have not learned that much yet,
and for beginners of Jarte, it is probably best to just check the file type
box each time, or you will be greatly confused wondering where your files
and folders are!


I put in below the link to the Jarte web page that contains the description
of features.  On that same page is also the download link.  The installation
file you download is small, less than 4 mb.  Installation was completely
perfect and easy, both for accessibility and for clarity.

The link is below, just past my name.  Thanks again Andy!

Tim Ford
http://www.jarte.com/features.html


-Original Message-
From: 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

[Maria Campbell]

Hey Tim, I found out how to make Jart go into screen reader mode.  I had 
to put into the program clipboard the words "enable screen reader 
mode."  Don't know why this isn't a menu option, but it works, so oh well.



lucky1i...@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small 
things, it does not exist at all.

On 5/26/2017 1:16 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:
OK.  I'll be a good girl now, stop complaining, and read the help 
file, which I should have done before.



lucky1i...@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in 
small things, it does not exist at all.


On 5/26/2017 12:58 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:
The name finally came to me: Jamal Mazrui. Here is a google results 
page that has some interesting leads, including one that I believe 
links to this JAWS Users website:
https://www.google.com/search?site==hp=jarte+word+processor%2C+jemal=jarte+word+processor%2C+jemal_l=hp.3..33i160k1.1006537.1014777.0.1015574.27.24.0.0.0.0.231.3558.0j18j3.21.00...1.1.64.hp..6.20.3422...0j0i131k1j0i10k1j0i22i30k1j33i21k1.Ws1L14LJKKk 



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
On Behalf Of Maria Campbell

Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 12:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word 
processor!


Now that is very strange, because it sure isn't easy to get this 
program easy to set up with accessibility.  Unless, Windows 10 is 
fighting the interface?



lucky1i...@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in 
small things, it does not exist at all.


On 5/26/2017 12:45 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:
If I'm not mistaken, the developer is blind. His name is on the tip 
of my tongue as I write, but it eludes me.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 12:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word 
processor!


I wish there was some way to contact the developer to see about 
accessibility settings?



lucky1i...@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in 
small things, it does not exist at all.


On 5/26/2017 12:27 PM, Tim Ford wrote:

Very strange.  Later today when I get done with some business calls,
I am going to uninstall Jarte, start from scratch, and see if there
was some key install process button I happened across that caused my
version to be totally fine and accessible right off the bat.  I 
will report back!


Tim Ford


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 9:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word 
processor!


Mine doesn't say that.  My version doesn't seem to be very stable,
either for when I open it, it says Jart not responding, but then it
seems more or less OK.  I just upgraded to the newest version.  I
imagine there are settings I'm not aware of to make it like yours,
but at least I got the alt menus to work.



lucky1i...@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in
small things, it does not exist at all.

On 5/26/2017 10:58 AM, Tim Ford wrote:

Hi All,

I cannot now recall the exact sequence of events, but when I bring
up Jarte, the title line (JAWS key plus t), says "Jarte (screen 
reader mode)"
From what seems apparent, Jarte is intended to be screen 
reader friendly.

If you are not getting that same title line, then probably someone
on this list will know how to get that setting correct. It might
also require a re-boot to take effect, or maybe Jarte needs to be
uninstalled and reinstalled, but somehow it Jarte caught on I was
using a screen reader and was easy as pie from the beginning.  I
never understood that easy as pie slogan.

Tim Ford

Tim


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of LeDon
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 7:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word 
processor!


Rus, how do you spell check?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Russ Breitenstein
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 9:10 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word 
processor!


When I installed Jart only the File menu worked. Press Alt-V and the
View menu will appear. Arrow-down and check Main Menu. This will
make the menu accessible with the Alt key.

Hope this helps,
Russ

-Original Message-
From: LeDon
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 8:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Selecting Contacts

[David Whitehead]

Hello;
Well, jaws doesn't have any script support, like window eyes does.
So, using windows live mail is a little clunky.


   Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but what 
they conceal is vital.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Tom Fairhurst
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 9:37 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Selecting Contacts

Thanks for your help. I am using Windows Live Mail. I'll keep looking. I 
don't find the
Address List Autocomplete setting under Quick Settings using Insert+V.
Unfortunately, this leads me to another issue. The treeview doesn't always
behave reliably, even when the screen is maximized. When arrowing up and
down, some items are skipped. Even when I arrow right and expand the tree
completely, all items are not read. I googled this, and the suggestion was 
made to log out and log back into the E-mail account. My problem is that the 
address auto complete feature works for me in Window-Eyes but not JAWS. 
Thanks again for your help.

-Original Message- 
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 12:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Selecting Contacts

There's a setting in quick settings (JAWS key+v) that might help. Make sure
"Address list autocomplete announcement" is checked. If that doesn't fix it,
look down for other possibilities in quick settings. Otherwise, your answer
is in Outlook itself, and there Google will help.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Fairhurst
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 11:13 AM
To: List Jaws
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Selecting Contacts

I am a new JAWS user. Since I started using JAWS 18 with Windows 7 64-Bit
Pro, when I begin typing in the “to” field to search for a contact, I am no
longer given a list of possible contacts from which to choose. I must use
the Select Contacts button to do this. It is only a minor irritation, but
why doesn’t the feature work properly.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account

[Andrew James Bontrager]

Hello Andy,
Assuming you're using Outlook Express, you'll need to change the security 
settings in your Gmail account.
The thing is, with some applications, Google detects they aren't "modern" so it 
blocks their access to Gmail.
You should lower the security setting in Gmail.
I don't remember exactly how to do it, but if you would like I can check the 
settings again.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] subscriber count

[Andrew James Bontrager]

That's very impressive.
Thanks to all the moderators for their hard work.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

[Mike B.]

Because that's the number of seconds in 1 hour.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Kimsan
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button


Why 3600. I'm confused there.

Respectfully,
Kimsan Song
kimsans...@icloud.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 3:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

The following commands will shutdown and reboot your system:

shutdown -s -f -t 00

shutdown -r -f -t 00

Note: the notation of 00 means the system will perform the task right away.
So say you wanted it to shutdown in an hour, then change the number to 3600.

Also note, any time more than 00 you do not need to include the -f switch
because it is assumed at that point.

I always create such icons on any system I work on, no matter if it is mine
or not. It is just something to make life a little easier.

-Original Message-
From: Lenny McHugh
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 5:48 AM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

I very seldom use my hp laptop. I am using a wireless full size keyboard,
latest jaws 18, win 10. It looks like the only way that I can shut down the
laptop is with the power button. I thought in the past that alt f4 on the
desktop would reveal those options. I tried using the down or up arrow in
the running apps and also on the desktop.
Any help appreciated.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDf Articles

[Tom Behler]

I tried this, but had no luck with the particular documents I've been
working with.

Once again, the only way I could get the full document was to run it through
Jaws Convenient OCR, and then copy and paste it into a notepad text file.

Not quite sure why the usual strategies haven't worked in the case of these
documents.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rose
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 10:47 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDf
Articles

When you get the reading untagged document dialog from Acrobat, select read
whole document and then you may press insert down arrow and read
continuously once all pages have been processed.  



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:15 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDf
Articles

Hi Tom

To move to the next page in a PDF document press control+down arrow.  To
move to the previous page, press control+up arrow.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 12:04
To: 'Jaws users list'
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDf Articles

Hello, everyone.

 

I am having a problem reading a few PDF articles I have just been sent.

 

Once I open the attachments, via Adobe Acrobat DC, I find that I cannot
advance beyond the first page of each article, either via the arrow keys, or
the page up and page down keys.

 

Interestingly, when I use my arrow keys and the page up or down keys, the
visual sscreen advances with no problem.  In other words, Jaws appears to be
stuck on the first page and is unable to advance through the rest of the
file.

 

I'm using Windows 7 and the latest build of Jaws 18 here, along with Adobe
Acrobat DC.

 

Any suggestions would be apreciated.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

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[JAWS-Users] How To Customize The Status Bar

[Mike B.]

Hi All,

I received this off list from a fellow list member:
Hi Mike,

To show number of lines, line number, or many other options  in the status 
bar in Word try the following:
1. Press F6 until Status bar is highlighted.  Or, until you hear Jaws 
report, Status Toolbar.  It should be the 2nd press of the F6 key.
2. Press Shift + F10 to show options.  This keystroke must be used because a 
right mouse click or pressing the application key will not.
3. Down arrow through the available options, and when you have found line 
count or something else of interest press the spacebar to check or uncheck
the item.
4. when done making modifications simply press AltF4 or escape key.
5. Review your status line to insure the settings have been properly 
modified.

Joseph the free tech guy!
All are welcome to write me off list if absolutely any help is needed
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox help needed please

[Dennis Long]

I didn't any such settings that said auto complete.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 1:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox help needed please

Check the autocomplete options in the quick settings (JAWS key+v) with
Firefox open.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 11:07 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Firefox help needed please

Hi, how do I prevent Jaws or any screen reader from  saying something like
m.yahoo when I start to type an address into the address bar?  I also want
to prevent it from showing a list of possible sites that it could be in a
list as I type.  I would love to get rid of all search engines but I don't
see how this is possible I looked under search.  I'm using latest Firefox
any help is appreciated.

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox help needed please

[Adrian Spratt]

Check the autocomplete options in the quick settings (JAWS key+v) with Firefox 
open.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Dennis Long
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 11:07 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Firefox help needed please

Hi, how do I prevent Jaws or any screen reader from  saying something like 
m.yahoo when I start to type an address into the address bar?  I also want to 
prevent it from showing a list of possible sites that it could be in a list as 
I type.  I would love to get rid of all search engines but I don't see how this 
is possible I looked under search.  I'm using latest Firefox any help is 
appreciated.

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

[Maria Campbell]

OK.  I'll be a good girl now, stop complaining, and read the help file, 
which I should have done before.



lucky1i...@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small 
things, it does not exist at all.

On 5/26/2017 12:58 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:

The name finally came to me: Jamal Mazrui. Here is a google results page that 
has some interesting leads, including one that I believe links to this JAWS 
Users website:
https://www.google.com/search?site==hp=jarte+word+processor%2C+jemal=jarte+word+processor%2C+jemal_l=hp.3..33i160k1.1006537.1014777.0.1015574.27.24.0.0.0.0.231.3558.0j18j3.21.00...1.1.64.hp..6.20.3422...0j0i131k1j0i10k1j0i22i30k1j33i21k1.Ws1L14LJKKk

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 12:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Now that is very strange, because it sure isn't easy to get this program easy 
to set up with accessibility.  Unless, Windows 10 is fighting the interface?


lucky1i...@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small 
things, it does not exist at all.

On 5/26/2017 12:45 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:

If I'm not mistaken, the developer is blind. His name is on the tip of my 
tongue as I write, but it eludes me.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 12:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

I wish there was some way to contact the developer to see about accessibility 
settings?


lucky1i...@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small 
things, it does not exist at all.

On 5/26/2017 12:27 PM, Tim Ford wrote:

Very strange.  Later today when I get done with some business calls,
I am going to uninstall Jarte, start from scratch, and see if there
was some key install process button I happened across that caused my
version to be totally fine and accessible right off the bat.  I will report 
back!

Tim Ford


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 9:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Mine doesn't say that.  My version doesn't seem to be very stable,
either for when I open it, it says Jart not responding, but then it
seems more or less OK.  I just upgraded to the newest version.  I
imagine there are settings I'm not aware of to make it like yours,
but at least I got the alt menus to work.



lucky1i...@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in
small things, it does not exist at all.

On 5/26/2017 10:58 AM, Tim Ford wrote:

Hi All,

I cannot now recall the exact sequence of events, but when I bring
up Jarte, the title line (JAWS key plus t), says "Jarte (screen reader mode)"
From what seems apparent, Jarte is intended to be screen reader friendly.
If you are not getting that same title line, then probably someone
on this list will know how to get that setting correct.  It might
also require a re-boot to take effect, or maybe Jarte needs to be
uninstalled and reinstalled, but somehow it Jarte caught on I was
using a screen reader and was easy as pie from the beginning.  I
never understood that easy as pie slogan.

Tim Ford

Tim


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of LeDon
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 7:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Rus, how do you spell check?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Russ Breitenstein
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 9:10 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

When I installed Jart only the File menu worked. Press Alt-V and the
View menu will appear. Arrow-down and check Main Menu. This will
make the menu accessible with the Alt key.

Hope this helps,
Russ

-Original Message-
From: LeDon
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 8:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

How do you work the spell check? And How do I learn about the alt
key

menus?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:29 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Thanks Gerald for the information.  I found that all 

Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

[Kimsan]

Why 3600. I'm confused there.

Respectfully,
Kimsan Song
kimsans...@icloud.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 3:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

The following commands will shutdown and reboot your system:

shutdown -s -f -t 00

shutdown -r -f -t 00

Note: the notation of 00 means the system will perform the task right away. 
So say you wanted it to shutdown in an hour, then change the number to 3600.

Also note, any time more than 00 you do not need to include the -f switch
because it is assumed at that point.

I always create such icons on any system I work on, no matter if it is mine
or not. It is just something to make life a little easier.

-Original Message-
From: Lenny McHugh
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 5:48 AM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

I very seldom use my hp laptop. I am using a wireless full size keyboard,
latest jaws 18, win 10. It looks like the only way that I can shut down the
laptop is with the power button. I thought in the past that alt f4 on the
desktop would reveal those options. I tried using the down or up arrow in
the running apps and also on the desktop.
Any help appreciated.


---

Please visit my web page

It's motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor

There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind

http://www.LennyMcHugh.com

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

[Maria Campbell]

Thanks.


lucky1i...@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small 
things, it does not exist at all.

On 5/26/2017 12:58 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:

The name finally came to me: Jamal Mazrui. Here is a google results page that 
has some interesting leads, including one that I believe links to this JAWS 
Users website:
https://www.google.com/search?site==hp=jarte+word+processor%2C+jemal=jarte+word+processor%2C+jemal_l=hp.3..33i160k1.1006537.1014777.0.1015574.27.24.0.0.0.0.231.3558.0j18j3.21.00...1.1.64.hp..6.20.3422...0j0i131k1j0i10k1j0i22i30k1j33i21k1.Ws1L14LJKKk

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 12:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Now that is very strange, because it sure isn't easy to get this program easy 
to set up with accessibility.  Unless, Windows 10 is fighting the interface?


lucky1i...@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small 
things, it does not exist at all.

On 5/26/2017 12:45 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:

If I'm not mistaken, the developer is blind. His name is on the tip of my 
tongue as I write, but it eludes me.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 12:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

I wish there was some way to contact the developer to see about accessibility 
settings?


lucky1i...@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small 
things, it does not exist at all.

On 5/26/2017 12:27 PM, Tim Ford wrote:

Very strange.  Later today when I get done with some business calls,
I am going to uninstall Jarte, start from scratch, and see if there
was some key install process button I happened across that caused my
version to be totally fine and accessible right off the bat.  I will report 
back!

Tim Ford


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 9:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Mine doesn't say that.  My version doesn't seem to be very stable,
either for when I open it, it says Jart not responding, but then it
seems more or less OK.  I just upgraded to the newest version.  I
imagine there are settings I'm not aware of to make it like yours,
but at least I got the alt menus to work.



lucky1i...@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in
small things, it does not exist at all.

On 5/26/2017 10:58 AM, Tim Ford wrote:

Hi All,

I cannot now recall the exact sequence of events, but when I bring
up Jarte, the title line (JAWS key plus t), says "Jarte (screen reader mode)"
From what seems apparent, Jarte is intended to be screen reader friendly.
If you are not getting that same title line, then probably someone
on this list will know how to get that setting correct.  It might
also require a re-boot to take effect, or maybe Jarte needs to be
uninstalled and reinstalled, but somehow it Jarte caught on I was
using a screen reader and was easy as pie from the beginning.  I
never understood that easy as pie slogan.

Tim Ford

Tim


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of LeDon
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 7:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Rus, how do you spell check?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Russ Breitenstein
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 9:10 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

When I installed Jart only the File menu worked. Press Alt-V and the
View menu will appear. Arrow-down and check Main Menu. This will
make the menu accessible with the Alt key.

Hope this helps,
Russ

-Original Message-
From: LeDon
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 8:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

How do you work the spell check? And How do I learn about the alt
key

menus?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:29 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Thanks Gerald for the information.  I found that all the items we
would typically want, including spellcheck, are also on those nice
regular alt key 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

[Adrian Spratt]

The name finally came to me: Jamal Mazrui. Here is a google results page that 
has some interesting leads, including one that I believe links to this JAWS 
Users website:
https://www.google.com/search?site==hp=jarte+word+processor%2C+jemal=jarte+word+processor%2C+jemal_l=hp.3..33i160k1.1006537.1014777.0.1015574.27.24.0.0.0.0.231.3558.0j18j3.21.00...1.1.64.hp..6.20.3422...0j0i131k1j0i10k1j0i22i30k1j33i21k1.Ws1L14LJKKk

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 12:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Now that is very strange, because it sure isn't easy to get this program easy 
to set up with accessibility.  Unless, Windows 10 is fighting the interface?


lucky1i...@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small 
things, it does not exist at all.

On 5/26/2017 12:45 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:
> If I'm not mistaken, the developer is blind. His name is on the tip of my 
> tongue as I write, but it eludes me.
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 12:32 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!
>
> I wish there was some way to contact the developer to see about accessibility 
> settings?
>
>
> lucky1i...@gmail.com
> Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small 
> things, it does not exist at all.
>
> On 5/26/2017 12:27 PM, Tim Ford wrote:
>> Very strange.  Later today when I get done with some business calls, 
>> I am going to uninstall Jarte, start from scratch, and see if there 
>> was some key install process button I happened across that caused my 
>> version to be totally fine and accessible right off the bat.  I will report 
>> back!
>>
>> Tim Ford
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
>> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 9:17 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!
>>
>> Mine doesn't say that.  My version doesn't seem to be very stable, 
>> either for when I open it, it says Jart not responding, but then it 
>> seems more or less OK.  I just upgraded to the newest version.  I 
>> imagine there are settings I'm not aware of to make it like yours, 
>> but at least I got the alt menus to work.
>>
>>
>>
>> lucky1i...@gmail.com
>> Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in 
>> small things, it does not exist at all.
>>
>> On 5/26/2017 10:58 AM, Tim Ford wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I cannot now recall the exact sequence of events, but when I bring 
>>> up Jarte, the title line (JAWS key plus t), says "Jarte (screen reader 
>>> mode)"
>>>From what seems apparent, Jarte is intended to be screen reader friendly.
>>> If you are not getting that same title line, then probably someone 
>>> on this list will know how to get that setting correct.  It might 
>>> also require a re-boot to take effect, or maybe Jarte needs to be 
>>> uninstalled and reinstalled, but somehow it Jarte caught on I was 
>>> using a screen reader and was easy as pie from the beginning.  I 
>>> never understood that easy as pie slogan.
>>>
>>> Tim Ford
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: JAWS-Users-List 
>>> [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>>> On Behalf Of LeDon
>>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 7:36 AM
>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!
>>>
>>> Rus, how do you spell check?
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: JAWS-Users-List 
>>> [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>>> On Behalf Of Russ Breitenstein
>>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 9:10 AM
>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!
>>>
>>> When I installed Jart only the File menu worked. Press Alt-V and the 
>>> View menu will appear. Arrow-down and check Main Menu. This will 
>>> make the menu accessible with the Alt key.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> Russ
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: LeDon
>>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 8:26 AM
>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!
>>>
>>> How do you work the spell check? And How do I learn about the alt 
>>> key
>> menus?
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: JAWS-Users-List 
>>> [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>>> On Behalf Of Tim Ford
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:29 AM
>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Selecting Contacts

[Tom Fairhurst]

   Thanks for your help. I am using Windows Live Mail. I'll keep looking. I 
don't find the

Address List Autocomplete setting under Quick Settings using Insert+V.
Unfortunately, this leads me to another issue. The treeview doesn't always
behave reliably, even when the screen is maximized. When arrowing up and
down, some items are skipped. Even when I arrow right and expand the tree
completely, all items are not read. I googled this, and the suggestion was 
made to log out and log back into the E-mail account. My problem is that the 
address auto complete feature works for me in Window-Eyes but not JAWS. 
Thanks again for your help.


-Original Message- 
From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 12:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Selecting Contacts

There's a setting in quick settings (JAWS key+v) that might help. Make sure
"Address list autocomplete announcement" is checked. If that doesn't fix it,
look down for other possibilities in quick settings. Otherwise, your answer
is in Outlook itself, and there Google will help.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Fairhurst
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 11:13 AM
To: List Jaws
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Selecting Contacts

I am a new JAWS user. Since I started using JAWS 18 with Windows 7 64-Bit
Pro, when I begin typing in the “to” field to search for a contact, I am no
longer given a list of possible contacts from which to choose. I must use
the Select Contacts button to do this. It is only a minor irritation, but
why doesn’t the feature work properly.
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[JAWS-Users] Firefox help needed please

[Dennis Long]

Hi, how do I prevent Jaws or any screen reader from  saying something like
m.yahoo when I start to type an address into the address bar?  I also want
to prevent it from showing a list of possible sites that it could be in a
list as I type.  I would love to get rid of all search engines but I don't
see how this is possible I looked under search.  I'm using latest Firefox
any help is appreciated.

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

[Maria Campbell]

Now that is very strange, because it sure isn't easy to get this program 
easy to set up with accessibility.  Unless, Windows 10 is fighting the 
interface?



lucky1i...@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small 
things, it does not exist at all.

On 5/26/2017 12:45 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:

If I'm not mistaken, the developer is blind. His name is on the tip of my 
tongue as I write, but it eludes me.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 12:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

I wish there was some way to contact the developer to see about accessibility 
settings?


lucky1i...@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small 
things, it does not exist at all.

On 5/26/2017 12:27 PM, Tim Ford wrote:

Very strange.  Later today when I get done with some business calls, I am
going to uninstall Jarte, start from scratch, and see if there was some key
install process button I happened across that caused my version to be
totally fine and accessible right off the bat.  I will report back!

Tim Ford


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 9:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Mine doesn't say that.  My version doesn't seem to be very stable, either
for when I open it, it says Jart not responding, but then it seems more or
less OK.  I just upgraded to the newest version.  I imagine there are
settings I'm not aware of to make it like yours, but at least I got the alt
menus to work.



lucky1i...@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small
things, it does not exist at all.

On 5/26/2017 10:58 AM, Tim Ford wrote:

Hi All,

I cannot now recall the exact sequence of events, but when I bring up
Jarte, the title line (JAWS key plus t), says "Jarte (screen reader mode)"
   From what seems apparent, Jarte is intended to be screen reader friendly.
If you are not getting that same title line, then probably someone on
this list will know how to get that setting correct.  It might also
require a re-boot to take effect, or maybe Jarte needs to be
uninstalled and reinstalled, but somehow it Jarte caught on I was
using a screen reader and was easy as pie from the beginning.  I never
understood that easy as pie slogan.

Tim Ford

Tim


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of LeDon
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 7:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Rus, how do you spell check?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Russ Breitenstein
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 9:10 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

When I installed Jart only the File menu worked. Press Alt-V and the
View menu will appear. Arrow-down and check Main Menu. This will make
the menu accessible with the Alt key.

Hope this helps,
Russ

-Original Message-
From: LeDon
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 8:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

How do you work the spell check? And How do I learn about the alt key

menus?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:29 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Thanks Gerald for the information.  I found that all the items we
would typically want, including spellcheck, are also on those nice
regular alt key menus.  There is also a very cool clipboard memory
buffer under the Tools menu.  I highly recommend going through all the
available menu items, there are great features there.

Tim Ford


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 9:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!


Jarte uses the same classic menu structure as Wordpad, upon which it
is based.  You just press the Alt key to launch the menus, just as you
would with any other program.  To invoke the spell checker, just press F7.

Gerald



-Original Message-
From: LeDon
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Tim you got me 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

[Adrian Spratt]

If I'm not mistaken, the developer is blind. His name is on the tip of my 
tongue as I write, but it eludes me.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 12:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

I wish there was some way to contact the developer to see about accessibility 
settings?


lucky1i...@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small 
things, it does not exist at all.

On 5/26/2017 12:27 PM, Tim Ford wrote:
> Very strange.  Later today when I get done with some business calls, I am
> going to uninstall Jarte, start from scratch, and see if there was some key
> install process button I happened across that caused my version to be
> totally fine and accessible right off the bat.  I will report back!
>
> Tim Ford
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Maria Campbell
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 9:17 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!
>
> Mine doesn't say that.  My version doesn't seem to be very stable, either
> for when I open it, it says Jart not responding, but then it seems more or
> less OK.  I just upgraded to the newest version.  I imagine there are
> settings I'm not aware of to make it like yours, but at least I got the alt
> menus to work.
>
>
>
> lucky1i...@gmail.com
> Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small
> things, it does not exist at all.
>
> On 5/26/2017 10:58 AM, Tim Ford wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I cannot now recall the exact sequence of events, but when I bring up
>> Jarte, the title line (JAWS key plus t), says "Jarte (screen reader mode)"
>>   From what seems apparent, Jarte is intended to be screen reader friendly.
>> If you are not getting that same title line, then probably someone on
>> this list will know how to get that setting correct.  It might also
>> require a re-boot to take effect, or maybe Jarte needs to be
>> uninstalled and reinstalled, but somehow it Jarte caught on I was
>> using a screen reader and was easy as pie from the beginning.  I never
>> understood that easy as pie slogan.
>>
>> Tim Ford
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>> On Behalf Of LeDon
>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 7:36 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!
>>
>> Rus, how do you spell check?
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>> On Behalf Of Russ Breitenstein
>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 9:10 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!
>>
>> When I installed Jart only the File menu worked. Press Alt-V and the
>> View menu will appear. Arrow-down and check Main Menu. This will make
>> the menu accessible with the Alt key.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>> Russ
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: LeDon
>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 8:26 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!
>>
>> How do you work the spell check? And How do I learn about the alt key
> menus?
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>> On Behalf Of Tim Ford
>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:29 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!
>>
>> Thanks Gerald for the information.  I found that all the items we
>> would typically want, including spellcheck, are also on those nice
>> regular alt key menus.  There is also a very cool clipboard memory
>> buffer under the Tools menu.  I highly recommend going through all the
>> available menu items, there are great features there.
>>
>> Tim Ford
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 9:12 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!
>>
>>
>> Jarte uses the same classic menu structure as Wordpad, upon which it
>> is based.  You just press the Alt key to launch the menus, just as you
>> would with any other program.  To invoke the spell checker, just press F7.
>>
>> Gerald
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: LeDon
>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:59 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!
>>
>> Tim you got me excited about using the Jart word processor. But How do
>> 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

[Maria Campbell]

Perhaps you have the paid version for better stability and accessibility?


lucky1i...@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small 
things, it does not exist at all.

On 5/26/2017 12:27 PM, Tim Ford wrote:

Very strange.  Later today when I get done with some business calls, I am
going to uninstall Jarte, start from scratch, and see if there was some key
install process button I happened across that caused my version to be
totally fine and accessible right off the bat.  I will report back!

Tim Ford


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 9:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Mine doesn't say that.  My version doesn't seem to be very stable, either
for when I open it, it says Jart not responding, but then it seems more or
less OK.  I just upgraded to the newest version.  I imagine there are
settings I'm not aware of to make it like yours, but at least I got the alt
menus to work.



lucky1i...@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small
things, it does not exist at all.

On 5/26/2017 10:58 AM, Tim Ford wrote:

Hi All,

I cannot now recall the exact sequence of events, but when I bring up
Jarte, the title line (JAWS key plus t), says "Jarte (screen reader mode)"
  From what seems apparent, Jarte is intended to be screen reader friendly.
If you are not getting that same title line, then probably someone on
this list will know how to get that setting correct.  It might also
require a re-boot to take effect, or maybe Jarte needs to be
uninstalled and reinstalled, but somehow it Jarte caught on I was
using a screen reader and was easy as pie from the beginning.  I never
understood that easy as pie slogan.

Tim Ford

Tim


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of LeDon
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 7:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Rus, how do you spell check?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Russ Breitenstein
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 9:10 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

When I installed Jart only the File menu worked. Press Alt-V and the
View menu will appear. Arrow-down and check Main Menu. This will make
the menu accessible with the Alt key.

Hope this helps,
Russ

-Original Message-
From: LeDon
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 8:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

How do you work the spell check? And How do I learn about the alt key

menus?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:29 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Thanks Gerald for the information.  I found that all the items we
would typically want, including spellcheck, are also on those nice
regular alt key menus.  There is also a very cool clipboard memory
buffer under the Tools menu.  I highly recommend going through all the
available menu items, there are great features there.

Tim Ford


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 9:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!


Jarte uses the same classic menu structure as Wordpad, upon which it
is based.  You just press the Alt key to launch the menus, just as you
would with any other program.  To invoke the spell checker, just press F7.

Gerald



-Original Message-
From: LeDon
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Tim you got me excited about using the Jart word processor. But How do
I get to the menus? How do I do spell check. Your help will be much

appreciated.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 1:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Hi Andy,

I owe you a great and hardy "Thank you" for telling us about Jarte!
It is just what I always wanted, a nice easy word processor that is
fully compatible with JAWS.  It was easy to download and install.
Folks will find it to have a very familiar feel, and it is easy to
explore the menus and find all the features, everything I 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

[Maria Campbell]

I wish there was some way to contact the developer to see about 
accessibility settings?



lucky1i...@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small 
things, it does not exist at all.

On 5/26/2017 12:27 PM, Tim Ford wrote:

Very strange.  Later today when I get done with some business calls, I am
going to uninstall Jarte, start from scratch, and see if there was some key
install process button I happened across that caused my version to be
totally fine and accessible right off the bat.  I will report back!

Tim Ford


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 9:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Mine doesn't say that.  My version doesn't seem to be very stable, either
for when I open it, it says Jart not responding, but then it seems more or
less OK.  I just upgraded to the newest version.  I imagine there are
settings I'm not aware of to make it like yours, but at least I got the alt
menus to work.



lucky1i...@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small
things, it does not exist at all.

On 5/26/2017 10:58 AM, Tim Ford wrote:

Hi All,

I cannot now recall the exact sequence of events, but when I bring up
Jarte, the title line (JAWS key plus t), says "Jarte (screen reader mode)"
  From what seems apparent, Jarte is intended to be screen reader friendly.
If you are not getting that same title line, then probably someone on
this list will know how to get that setting correct.  It might also
require a re-boot to take effect, or maybe Jarte needs to be
uninstalled and reinstalled, but somehow it Jarte caught on I was
using a screen reader and was easy as pie from the beginning.  I never
understood that easy as pie slogan.

Tim Ford

Tim


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of LeDon
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 7:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Rus, how do you spell check?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Russ Breitenstein
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 9:10 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

When I installed Jart only the File menu worked. Press Alt-V and the
View menu will appear. Arrow-down and check Main Menu. This will make
the menu accessible with the Alt key.

Hope this helps,
Russ

-Original Message-
From: LeDon
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 8:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

How do you work the spell check? And How do I learn about the alt key

menus?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:29 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Thanks Gerald for the information.  I found that all the items we
would typically want, including spellcheck, are also on those nice
regular alt key menus.  There is also a very cool clipboard memory
buffer under the Tools menu.  I highly recommend going through all the
available menu items, there are great features there.

Tim Ford


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 9:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!


Jarte uses the same classic menu structure as Wordpad, upon which it
is based.  You just press the Alt key to launch the menus, just as you
would with any other program.  To invoke the spell checker, just press F7.

Gerald



-Original Message-
From: LeDon
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Tim you got me excited about using the Jart word processor. But How do
I get to the menus? How do I do spell check. Your help will be much

appreciated.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 1:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Hi Andy,

I owe you a great and hardy "Thank you" for telling us about Jarte!
It is just what I always wanted, a nice easy word processor that is
fully compatible with JAWS.  It was easy to download and install.
Folks will find it to have a very familiar feel, and it is easy to
explore the menus and find all the 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

[Tim Ford]

Very strange.  Later today when I get done with some business calls, I am
going to uninstall Jarte, start from scratch, and see if there was some key
install process button I happened across that caused my version to be
totally fine and accessible right off the bat.  I will report back!

Tim Ford


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 9:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Mine doesn't say that.  My version doesn't seem to be very stable, either
for when I open it, it says Jart not responding, but then it seems more or
less OK.  I just upgraded to the newest version.  I imagine there are
settings I'm not aware of to make it like yours, but at least I got the alt
menus to work.



lucky1i...@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small
things, it does not exist at all.

On 5/26/2017 10:58 AM, Tim Ford wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I cannot now recall the exact sequence of events, but when I bring up 
> Jarte, the title line (JAWS key plus t), says "Jarte (screen reader mode)"
>  From what seems apparent, Jarte is intended to be screen reader friendly.
> If you are not getting that same title line, then probably someone on 
> this list will know how to get that setting correct.  It might also 
> require a re-boot to take effect, or maybe Jarte needs to be 
> uninstalled and reinstalled, but somehow it Jarte caught on I was 
> using a screen reader and was easy as pie from the beginning.  I never 
> understood that easy as pie slogan.
>
> Tim Ford
>
> Tim
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of LeDon
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 7:36 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!
>
> Rus, how do you spell check?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Russ Breitenstein
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 9:10 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!
>
> When I installed Jart only the File menu worked. Press Alt-V and the 
> View menu will appear. Arrow-down and check Main Menu. This will make 
> the menu accessible with the Alt key.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Russ
>
> -Original Message-
> From: LeDon
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 8:26 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!
>
> How do you work the spell check? And How do I learn about the alt key
menus?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Tim Ford
> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:29 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!
>
> Thanks Gerald for the information.  I found that all the items we 
> would typically want, including spellcheck, are also on those nice 
> regular alt key menus.  There is also a very cool clipboard memory 
> buffer under the Tools menu.  I highly recommend going through all the 
> available menu items, there are great features there.
>
> Tim Ford
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 9:12 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!
>
>
> Jarte uses the same classic menu structure as Wordpad, upon which it 
> is based.  You just press the Alt key to launch the menus, just as you 
> would with any other program.  To invoke the spell checker, just press F7.
>
> Gerald
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: LeDon
> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:59 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!
>
> Tim you got me excited about using the Jart word processor. But How do 
> I get to the menus? How do I do spell check. Your help will be much
appreciated.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Tim Ford
> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 1:38 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!
>
> Hi Andy,
>
> I owe you a great and hardy "Thank you" for telling us about Jarte!  
> It is just what I always wanted, a nice easy word processor that is 
> fully compatible with JAWS.  It was easy to download and install.  
> Folks will find it to have a very familiar feel, and it is easy to 
> explore the menus and find all the features, everything I want, a few 
> nice extras, but not as much of 

Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

[jobennett39]

to shut down my windows 10 laptop I have to press the start menu key then 
tab twice and come down with the cursor to where it says power, enter on 
power and then I think I come down once to where it says shut down and enter 
there.  Hopefully that should do the trick for you.  It took me ages to find 
it.


Jo

-Original Message- 
From: David Whitehead

Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 5:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

Hello;
Not sure why alt+f4 doesn't work from desktop, you could try,
Windows-key+x,
Then press the letters, UU
Or, you could create a shortcut for shutdown,
Shutdown command;
shutdown /s /t 0
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Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 11:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

I am using a full size keyboard that is wireless.

-Original Message- 
From: michaels mail

Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 6:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

   Hi Lenny just press the FN key witch is the function key next to the
left control key.
Just holdthe FN key down and press the alt f 4 as well.
Cheers Michael.

-Original Message- 
From: Lenny McHugh

Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 7:48 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

I very seldom use my hp laptop. I am using a wireless full size keyboard,
latest jaws 18, win 10. It looks like the only way that I can shut down the
laptop is with the power button. I thought in the past that alt f4 on the
desktop would reveal those options. I tried using the down or up arrow in
the running apps and also on the desktop.
Any help appreciated.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

[Maria Campbell]

Mine doesn't say that.  My version doesn't seem to be very stable, 
either for when I open it, it says Jart not responding, but then it 
seems more or less OK.  I just upgraded to the newest version.  I 
imagine there are settings I'm not aware of to make it like yours, but 
at least I got the alt menus to work.




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things, it does not exist at all.

On 5/26/2017 10:58 AM, Tim Ford wrote:

Hi All,

I cannot now recall the exact sequence of events, but when I bring up Jarte,
the title line (JAWS key plus t), says "Jarte (screen reader mode)"
 From what seems apparent, Jarte is intended to be screen reader friendly.
If you are not getting that same title line, then probably someone on this
list will know how to get that setting correct.  It might also require a
re-boot to take effect, or maybe Jarte needs to be uninstalled and
reinstalled, but somehow it Jarte caught on I was using a screen reader and
was easy as pie from the beginning.  I never understood that easy as pie
slogan.

Tim Ford

Tim


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of LeDon
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 7:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Rus, how do you spell check?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Russ Breitenstein
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 9:10 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

When I installed Jart only the File menu worked. Press Alt-V and the View
menu will appear. Arrow-down and check Main Menu. This will make the menu
accessible with the Alt key.

Hope this helps,
Russ

-Original Message-
From: LeDon
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 8:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

How do you work the spell check? And How do I learn about the alt key menus?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:29 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Thanks Gerald for the information.  I found that all the items we would
typically want, including spellcheck, are also on those nice regular alt key
menus.  There is also a very cool clipboard memory buffer under the Tools
menu.  I highly recommend going through all the available menu items, there
are great features there.

Tim Ford


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 9:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!


Jarte uses the same classic menu structure as Wordpad, upon which it is
based.  You just press the Alt key to launch the menus, just as you would
with any other program.  To invoke the spell checker, just press F7.

Gerald



-Original Message-
From: LeDon
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Tim you got me excited about using the Jart word processor. But How do I get
to the menus? How do I do spell check. Your help will be much appreciated.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 1:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Hi Andy,

I owe you a great and hardy "Thank you" for telling us about Jarte!  It is
just what I always wanted, a nice easy word processor that is fully
compatible with JAWS.  It was easy to download and install.  Folks will find
it to have a very familiar feel, and it is easy to explore the menus and
find all the features, everything I want, a few nice extras, but not as much
of the wild stuff the Microsoft Word program has.  It also has a nice
regular old menu system.

So for those who did not notice his post, please consider Jarte.  I can
already tell that I will use it a lot, perhaps as my default word processor.
It is certainly the solution for those who have only WordPad.

A post-installation note.  When you first launch the program for the purpose
of real work, watch for the following.  When you first go to open your file
list, the old familiar control + o key, you need to set the file type.  By
default, it is set to RTF only, meaning that when you tab to the file list,
you will see only the folders, and only those files that are in RTF format.


Instead, tab to the file type field, and Arrow down to the format you want
to see 

Re: [JAWS-Users] image for windows 3.0

[Lenny McHugh]

This is interesting, I used alt ctl delete to bring up task manager. The 
first thing was shutdown. Now the onlytask listed to be ended was jaws. 
How/where do I get to the list of running background apps?


-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 6:29 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] image for windows 3.0

A suggestion would be to turn off all programs and background applications
and disconnect the internet so that the system can devote more of its'
resources to the image it is building.

That normally works for me.

-Original Message- 
From: Lenny McHugh

Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 5:51 AM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] image for windows 3.0

I wanted to do a full system backup on my laptop. I get the message that the
last backup was 139 days ago. I tried it several times and during the last
pass I get the message that it failed because verification failed. I did a
check disk on the c drive on the laptop and also on the usb drive. Both came
up clean. Any suggestions?


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Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

[David Whitehead]

Hello;
Not sure why alt+f4 doesn't work from desktop, you could try,
Windows-key+x,
Then press the letters, UU
Or, you could create a shortcut for shutdown,
Shutdown command;
shutdown /s /t 0
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-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 11:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

I am using a full size keyboard that is wireless.

-Original Message- 
From: michaels mail
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 6:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

Hi Lenny just press the FN key witch is the function key next to the
left control key.
Just holdthe FN key down and press the alt f 4 as well.
Cheers Michael.

-Original Message- 
From: Lenny McHugh
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 7:48 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

I very seldom use my hp laptop. I am using a wireless full size keyboard,
latest jaws 18, win 10. It looks like the only way that I can shut down the
laptop is with the power button. I thought in the past that alt f4 on the
desktop would reveal those options. I tried using the down or up arrow in
the running apps and also on the desktop.
Any help appreciated.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

[Lenny McHugh]

I am using a full size keyboard that is wireless.

-Original Message- 
From: michaels mail

Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 6:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

   Hi Lenny just press the FN key witch is the function key next to the
left control key.
Just holdthe FN key down and press the alt f 4 as well.
Cheers Michael.

-Original Message- 
From: Lenny McHugh

Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 7:48 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

I very seldom use my hp laptop. I am using a wireless full size keyboard,
latest jaws 18, win 10. It looks like the only way that I can shut down the
laptop is with the power button. I thought in the past that alt f4 on the
desktop would reveal those options. I tried using the down or up arrow in
the running apps and also on the desktop.
Any help appreciated.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDf Articles

[Rose]

When you get the reading untagged document dialog from Acrobat, select read
whole document and then you may press insert down arrow and read
continuously once all pages have been processed.  



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:15 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDf
Articles

Hi Tom

To move to the next page in a PDF document press control+down arrow.  To
move to the previous page, press control+up arrow.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 12:04
To: 'Jaws users list'
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem Advancing Beyond First Page Of PDf Articles

Hello, everyone.

 

I am having a problem reading a few PDF articles I have just been sent.

 

Once I open the attachments, via Adobe Acrobat DC, I find that I cannot
advance beyond the first page of each article, either via the arrow keys, or
the page up and page down keys.

 

Interestingly, when I use my arrow keys and the page up or down keys, the
visual sscreen advances with no problem.  In other words, Jaws appears to be
stuck on the first page and is unable to advance through the rest of the
file.

 

I'm using Windows 7 and the latest build of Jaws 18 here, along with Adobe
Acrobat DC.

 

Any suggestions would be apreciated.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

[Lenny McHugh]

I just get an error tone.

-Original Message- 
From: Gerry Ellis 
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 7:34 AM 
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button 


Hi,

Try hitting alt with X then u then u again.



Take care,

Gerry Ellis

If you don't know where you're going,
How will you know when you get there?


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of michaels mail
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 11:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

   Hi Lenny just press the FN key witch is the function key next to the
left control key.
Just holdthe FN key down and press the alt f 4 as well.
Cheers Michael.

-Original Message-
From: Lenny McHugh
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 7:48 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

I very seldom use my hp laptop. I am using a wireless full size keyboard,
latest jaws 18, win 10. It looks like the only way that I can shut down the
laptop is with the power button. I thought in the past that alt f4 on the
desktop would reveal those options. I tried using the down or up arrow in
the running apps and also on the desktop.
Any help appreciated.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] confusing webpage

[Vicki]

This makes perfect sense. I think I will learn Italian! Thank you.

Vicki

- Original Message - 
From: "Gerry Ellis" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 5:41 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] confusing webpage



Hi,

For languages on a web page to work properly with JAWS you need two things
to be in sync.

Firstly, you need the JAWS "Detect Language" option to set on in the JAWS
settings. Find this by hitting JawsKey plus V then tab to the list of
options and down arrow to find the language options.

The web page developer also has to tag the correct language for the web 
page

content. Each time the developer wants text to be in a different language
they should add a language tag to indicate the correct language. This
language tag is part of the html code that is written by the developer or,
more likely these days, output by the web authoring tool used by the
developer. In this case I suspect that the language tag for the entire 
site

is Italian and is not changed to English for the English text. Thus, JAWS
language detect reads the tag that says the text is Italian and speaks the
English text in Italian as it has no indication that the languae has
changed. Yu can't change this language tag.

I hope this is not too confusing.

Ciao!



Take care,

Gerry Ellis

If you don't know where you're going,
How will you know when you get there?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] confusing webpage

Hi Stephen,

I have Language Detection turned off, & it still reads in Italian.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Stephen Bennett
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] confusing webpage


Hi Vikki and List

Have you tried turning off the Language detect feature?

While on the page, open quick settings with JawsKey + V, then type 
Language

into the search box. Down arrow to the feature and make sure it's turned
off. You can turn it back on later if you need it.

All the Best

S B



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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Vicki
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 4:58 AM
To: JAWS 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] confusing webpage

Good Afternoon,

I have a rather odd issue with a webpage and JAWS.

I will paste the link to the page below so that if anyone would like to 
take

a look, feel free.

The page is in either Spanish or Italian. The speech is very fast and I 
need

it slower to figure out the language, I think Spanish.

That's not my problem, though.

When I select the English option, it actually goes to the English page and
shows only English on the screen. However, Jaws is still reading in the
other language.

Why would this happen and how can I fix it?

Here is the link.

http://www.postocd.org/

Thanks.

Vicki
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

[Tim Ford]

Hi All,

I cannot now recall the exact sequence of events, but when I bring up Jarte,
the title line (JAWS key plus t), says "Jarte (screen reader mode)"
>From what seems apparent, Jarte is intended to be screen reader friendly.
If you are not getting that same title line, then probably someone on this
list will know how to get that setting correct.  It might also require a
re-boot to take effect, or maybe Jarte needs to be uninstalled and
reinstalled, but somehow it Jarte caught on I was using a screen reader and
was easy as pie from the beginning.  I never understood that easy as pie
slogan.

Tim Ford

Tim


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of LeDon
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 7:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Rus, how do you spell check?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Russ Breitenstein
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 9:10 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

When I installed Jart only the File menu worked. Press Alt-V and the View
menu will appear. Arrow-down and check Main Menu. This will make the menu
accessible with the Alt key.

Hope this helps,
Russ

-Original Message-
From: LeDon
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 8:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

How do you work the spell check? And How do I learn about the alt key menus?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:29 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Thanks Gerald for the information.  I found that all the items we would
typically want, including spellcheck, are also on those nice regular alt key
menus.  There is also a very cool clipboard memory buffer under the Tools
menu.  I highly recommend going through all the available menu items, there
are great features there.

Tim Ford


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 9:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!


Jarte uses the same classic menu structure as Wordpad, upon which it is
based.  You just press the Alt key to launch the menus, just as you would
with any other program.  To invoke the spell checker, just press F7.

Gerald



-Original Message-
From: LeDon
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Tim you got me excited about using the Jart word processor. But How do I get
to the menus? How do I do spell check. Your help will be much appreciated.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 1:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Hi Andy,

I owe you a great and hardy "Thank you" for telling us about Jarte!  It is
just what I always wanted, a nice easy word processor that is fully
compatible with JAWS.  It was easy to download and install.  Folks will find
it to have a very familiar feel, and it is easy to explore the menus and
find all the features, everything I want, a few nice extras, but not as much
of the wild stuff the Microsoft Word program has.  It also has a nice
regular old menu system.

So for those who did not notice his post, please consider Jarte.  I can
already tell that I will use it a lot, perhaps as my default word processor.
It is certainly the solution for those who have only WordPad.

A post-installation note.  When you first launch the program for the purpose
of real work, watch for the following.  When you first go to open your file
list, the old familiar control + o key, you need to set the file type.  By
default, it is set to RTF only, meaning that when you tab to the file list,
you will see only the folders, and only those files that are in RTF format.


Instead, tab to the file type field, and Arrow down to the format you want
to see in the file list, or arrow down to the bottom, about 5 times, to the
all-format view.  Whatever format option you choose, just press enter.
Then, just do the shift tab a couple of times and there is the list of all
folders, and depending upon your file type selection discussed above, your
list of files.  If you do not do this step, you will see only the list of
folders, if any, and only RTF files, if any, in the folder.  I assume there
is a way to set the default file type, but I have 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

[LeDon]

Rus, how do you spell check?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Russ Breitenstein
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 9:10 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

When I installed Jart only the File menu worked. Press Alt-V and the View
menu will appear. Arrow-down and check Main Menu. This will make the menu
accessible with the Alt key.

Hope this helps,
Russ

-Original Message-
From: LeDon
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 8:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

How do you work the spell check? And How do I learn about the alt key menus?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:29 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Thanks Gerald for the information.  I found that all the items we would
typically want, including spellcheck, are also on those nice regular alt key
menus.  There is also a very cool clipboard memory buffer under the Tools
menu.  I highly recommend going through all the available menu items, there
are great features there.

Tim Ford


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 9:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!


Jarte uses the same classic menu structure as Wordpad, upon which it is
based.  You just press the Alt key to launch the menus, just as you would
with any other program.  To invoke the spell checker, just press F7.

Gerald



-Original Message-
From: LeDon
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Tim you got me excited about using the Jart word processor. But How do I get
to the menus? How do I do spell check. Your help will be much appreciated.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 1:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Hi Andy,

I owe you a great and hardy "Thank you" for telling us about Jarte!  It is
just what I always wanted, a nice easy word processor that is fully
compatible with JAWS.  It was easy to download and install.  Folks will find
it to have a very familiar feel, and it is easy to explore the menus and
find all the features, everything I want, a few nice extras, but not as much
of the wild stuff the Microsoft Word program has.  It also has a nice
regular old menu system.

So for those who did not notice his post, please consider Jarte.  I can
already tell that I will use it a lot, perhaps as my default word processor.
It is certainly the solution for those who have only WordPad.

A post-installation note.  When you first launch the program for the purpose
of real work, watch for the following.  When you first go to open your file
list, the old familiar control + o key, you need to set the file type.  By
default, it is set to RTF only, meaning that when you tab to the file list,
you will see only the folders, and only those files that are in RTF format.


Instead, tab to the file type field, and Arrow down to the format you want
to see in the file list, or arrow down to the bottom, about 5 times, to the
all-format view.  Whatever format option you choose, just press enter.
Then, just do the shift tab a couple of times and there is the list of all
folders, and depending upon your file type selection discussed above, your
list of files.  If you do not do this step, you will see only the list of
folders, if any, and only RTF files, if any, in the folder.  I assume there
is a way to set the default file type, but I have not learned that much yet,
and for beginners of Jarte, it is probably best to just check the file type
box each time, or you will be greatly confused wondering where your files
and folders are!


I put in below the link to the Jarte web page that contains the description
of features.  On that same page is also the download link.  The installation
file you download is small, less than 4 mb.  Installation was completely
perfect and easy, both for accessibility and for clarity.

The link is below, just past my name.  Thanks again Andy!

Tim Ford
http://www.jarte.com/features.html


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 8:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc
document? Try WordPad.

I agree, 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

[Russ Breitenstein]

When I installed Jart only the File menu worked. Press Alt-V and the View 
menu will appear. Arrow-down and check Main Menu. This will make the menu 
accessible with the Alt key.


Hope this helps,
Russ

-Original Message- 
From: LeDon

Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 8:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

How do you work the spell check? And How do I learn about the alt key menus?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:29 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Thanks Gerald for the information.  I found that all the items we would
typically want, including spellcheck, are also on those nice regular alt key
menus.  There is also a very cool clipboard memory buffer under the Tools
menu.  I highly recommend going through all the available menu items, there
are great features there.

Tim Ford


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 9:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!


Jarte uses the same classic menu structure as Wordpad, upon which it is
based.  You just press the Alt key to launch the menus, just as you would
with any other program.  To invoke the spell checker, just press F7.

Gerald



-Original Message-
From: LeDon
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Tim you got me excited about using the Jart word processor. But How do I get
to the menus? How do I do spell check. Your help will be much appreciated.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 1:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Hi Andy,

I owe you a great and hardy "Thank you" for telling us about Jarte!  It is
just what I always wanted, a nice easy word processor that is fully
compatible with JAWS.  It was easy to download and install.  Folks will find
it to have a very familiar feel, and it is easy to explore the menus and
find all the features, everything I want, a few nice extras, but not as much
of the wild stuff the Microsoft Word program has.  It also has a nice
regular old menu system.

So for those who did not notice his post, please consider Jarte.  I can
already tell that I will use it a lot, perhaps as my default word processor.
It is certainly the solution for those who have only WordPad.

A post-installation note.  When you first launch the program for the purpose
of real work, watch for the following.  When you first go to open your file
list, the old familiar control + o key, you need to set the file type.  By
default, it is set to RTF only, meaning that when you tab to the file list,
you will see only the folders, and only those files that are in RTF format.


Instead, tab to the file type field, and Arrow down to the format you want
to see in the file list, or arrow down to the bottom, about 5 times, to the
all-format view.  Whatever format option you choose, just press enter.
Then, just do the shift tab a couple of times and there is the list of all
folders, and depending upon your file type selection discussed above, your
list of files.  If you do not do this step, you will see only the list of
folders, if any, and only RTF files, if any, in the folder.  I assume there
is a way to set the default file type, but I have not learned that much yet,
and for beginners of Jarte, it is probably best to just check the file type
box each time, or you will be greatly confused wondering where your files
and folders are!


I put in below the link to the Jarte web page that contains the description
of features.  On that same page is also the download link.  The installation
file you download is small, less than 4 mb.  Installation was completely
perfect and easy, both for accessibility and for clarity.

The link is below, just past my name.  Thanks again Andy!

Tim Ford
http://www.jarte.com/features.html


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 8:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc
document? Try WordPad.

I agree, and that's why I have Jarte.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: "Audiobookfan" 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

[Tom]

 I take it that jart is a ms word replacement, but is there a jart for ms 
excell?


-Original Message- 
From: LeDon

Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 7:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

How do you work the spell check? And How do I learn about the alt key menus?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:29 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Thanks Gerald for the information.  I found that all the items we would
typically want, including spellcheck, are also on those nice regular alt key
menus.  There is also a very cool clipboard memory buffer under the Tools
menu.  I highly recommend going through all the available menu items, there
are great features there.

Tim Ford


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 9:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!


Jarte uses the same classic menu structure as Wordpad, upon which it is
based.  You just press the Alt key to launch the menus, just as you would
with any other program.  To invoke the spell checker, just press F7.

Gerald



-Original Message-
From: LeDon
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Tim you got me excited about using the Jart word processor. But How do I get
to the menus? How do I do spell check. Your help will be much appreciated.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 1:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Hi Andy,

I owe you a great and hardy "Thank you" for telling us about Jarte!  It is
just what I always wanted, a nice easy word processor that is fully
compatible with JAWS.  It was easy to download and install.  Folks will find
it to have a very familiar feel, and it is easy to explore the menus and
find all the features, everything I want, a few nice extras, but not as much
of the wild stuff the Microsoft Word program has.  It also has a nice
regular old menu system.

So for those who did not notice his post, please consider Jarte.  I can
already tell that I will use it a lot, perhaps as my default word processor.
It is certainly the solution for those who have only WordPad.

A post-installation note.  When you first launch the program for the purpose
of real work, watch for the following.  When you first go to open your file
list, the old familiar control + o key, you need to set the file type.  By
default, it is set to RTF only, meaning that when you tab to the file list,
you will see only the folders, and only those files that are in RTF format.


Instead, tab to the file type field, and Arrow down to the format you want
to see in the file list, or arrow down to the bottom, about 5 times, to the
all-format view.  Whatever format option you choose, just press enter.
Then, just do the shift tab a couple of times and there is the list of all
folders, and depending upon your file type selection discussed above, your
list of files.  If you do not do this step, you will see only the list of
folders, if any, and only RTF files, if any, in the folder.  I assume there
is a way to set the default file type, but I have not learned that much yet,
and for beginners of Jarte, it is probably best to just check the file type
box each time, or you will be greatly confused wondering where your files
and folders are!


I put in below the link to the Jarte web page that contains the description
of features.  On that same page is also the download link.  The installation
file you download is small, less than 4 mb.  Installation was completely
perfect and easy, both for accessibility and for clarity.

The link is below, just past my name.  Thanks again Andy!

Tim Ford
http://www.jarte.com/features.html


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 8:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc
document? Try WordPad.

I agree, and that's why I have Jarte.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: "Audiobookfan" 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

[LeDon]

How do you work the spell check? And How do I learn about the alt key menus?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:29 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Thanks Gerald for the information.  I found that all the items we would
typically want, including spellcheck, are also on those nice regular alt key
menus.  There is also a very cool clipboard memory buffer under the Tools
menu.  I highly recommend going through all the available menu items, there
are great features there.

Tim Ford
 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 9:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!


Jarte uses the same classic menu structure as Wordpad, upon which it is
based.  You just press the Alt key to launch the menus, just as you would
with any other program.  To invoke the spell checker, just press F7.

Gerald



-Original Message-
From: LeDon
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Tim you got me excited about using the Jart word processor. But How do I get
to the menus? How do I do spell check. Your help will be much appreciated.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 1:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Hi Andy,

I owe you a great and hardy "Thank you" for telling us about Jarte!  It is
just what I always wanted, a nice easy word processor that is fully
compatible with JAWS.  It was easy to download and install.  Folks will find
it to have a very familiar feel, and it is easy to explore the menus and
find all the features, everything I want, a few nice extras, but not as much
of the wild stuff the Microsoft Word program has.  It also has a nice
regular old menu system.

So for those who did not notice his post, please consider Jarte.  I can
already tell that I will use it a lot, perhaps as my default word processor.
It is certainly the solution for those who have only WordPad.

A post-installation note.  When you first launch the program for the purpose
of real work, watch for the following.  When you first go to open your file
list, the old familiar control + o key, you need to set the file type.  By
default, it is set to RTF only, meaning that when you tab to the file list,
you will see only the folders, and only those files that are in RTF format.


Instead, tab to the file type field, and Arrow down to the format you want
to see in the file list, or arrow down to the bottom, about 5 times, to the
all-format view.  Whatever format option you choose, just press enter.
Then, just do the shift tab a couple of times and there is the list of all
folders, and depending upon your file type selection discussed above, your
list of files.  If you do not do this step, you will see only the list of
folders, if any, and only RTF files, if any, in the folder.  I assume there
is a way to set the default file type, but I have not learned that much yet,
and for beginners of Jarte, it is probably best to just check the file type
box each time, or you will be greatly confused wondering where your files
and folders are!


I put in below the link to the Jarte web page that contains the description
of features.  On that same page is also the download link.  The installation
file you download is small, less than 4 mb.  Installation was completely
perfect and easy, both for accessibility and for clarity.

The link is below, just past my name.  Thanks again Andy!

Tim Ford
http://www.jarte.com/features.html


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 8:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc
document? Try WordPad.

I agree, and that's why I have Jarte.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: "Audiobookfan" 

Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

[Gerry Ellis]

Hi,

Try hitting alt with X then u then u again.



Take care,

Gerry Ellis

If you don't know where you're going,
How will you know when you get there?


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of michaels mail
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 11:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

Hi Lenny just press the FN key witch is the function key next to the
left control key.
Just holdthe FN key down and press the alt f 4 as well.
Cheers Michael.

-Original Message-
From: Lenny McHugh
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 7:48 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

I very seldom use my hp laptop. I am using a wireless full size keyboard,
latest jaws 18, win 10. It looks like the only way that I can shut down the
laptop is with the power button. I thought in the past that alt f4 on the
desktop would reveal those options. I tried using the down or up arrow in
the running apps and also on the desktop.
Any help appreciated.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] where is the numbering of messages settings?

[Adrian Spratt]

It depends on which application you're using. The two most likely keystrokes 
are JAWS key+numpad 3 and JAWS key+tab. However, JAWS doesn't give these two 
details in some applications, including Outlook 2010 and earlier.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of ratshtron
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 1:24 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] where is the numbering of messages settings?

I am suffering from a senior moment and cannot for the life of me figure out 
how to have my message list tell me how many messages are left as well as the 
number of the message I am at in the list. i used to simply press key sequence 
and set it on but not no more, lol!


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[JAWS-Users] where is the numbering of messages settings?

[ratshtron]

I am suffering from a senior moment and cannot for the life of me 
figure out how to have my message list tell me how many messages are 
left as well as the number of the message I am at in the list. i used 
to simply press key sequence and set it on but not no more, lol!



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Re: [JAWS-Users] confusing webpage

[Gerry Ellis]

Hi,

For languages on a web page to work properly with JAWS you need two things
to be in sync.

Firstly, you need the JAWS "Detect Language" option to set on in the JAWS
settings. Find this by hitting JawsKey plus V then tab to the list of
options and down arrow to find the language options.

The web page developer also has to tag the correct language for the web page
content. Each time the developer wants text to be in a different language
they should add a language tag to indicate the correct language. This
language tag is part of the html code that is written by the developer or,
more likely these days, output by the web authoring tool used by the
developer. In this case I suspect that the language tag for the entire site
is Italian and is not changed to English for the English text. Thus, JAWS
language detect reads the tag that says the text is Italian and speaks the
English text in Italian as it has no indication that the languae has
changed. Yu can't change this language tag. 

I hope this is not too confusing.

Ciao!



Take care,

Gerry Ellis

If you don't know where you're going,
How will you know when you get there?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] confusing webpage

Hi Stephen,

I have Language Detection turned off, & it still reads in Italian.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Stephen Bennett
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] confusing webpage


Hi Vikki and List

Have you tried turning off the Language detect feature?

While on the page, open quick settings with JawsKey + V, then type Language
into the search box. Down arrow to the feature and make sure it's turned
off. You can turn it back on later if you need it.

All the Best

S B



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Vicki
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 4:58 AM
To: JAWS 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] confusing webpage

Good Afternoon,

I have a rather odd issue with a webpage and JAWS.

I will paste the link to the page below so that if anyone would like to take
a look, feel free.

The page is in either Spanish or Italian. The speech is very fast and I need
it slower to figure out the language, I think Spanish.

That's not my problem, though.

When I select the English option, it actually goes to the English page and
shows only English on the screen. However, Jaws is still reading in the
other language.

Why would this happen and how can I fix it?

Here is the link.

http://www.postocd.org/

Thanks.

Vicki
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Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

[michaels mail]

   Hi Lenny just press the FN key witch is the function key next to the 
left control key.

Just holdthe FN key down and press the alt f 4 as well.
Cheers Michael.

-Original Message- 
From: Lenny McHugh

Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 7:48 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

I very seldom use my hp laptop. I am using a wireless full size keyboard,
latest jaws 18, win 10. It looks like the only way that I can shut down the
laptop is with the power button. I thought in the past that alt f4 on the
desktop would reveal those options. I tried using the down or up arrow in
the running apps and also on the desktop.
Any help appreciated.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] image for windows 3.0

[David Ferrin]

A suggestion would be to turn off all programs and background applications 
and disconnect the internet so that the system can devote more of its' 
resources to the image it is building.


That normally works for me.

-Original Message- 
From: Lenny McHugh

Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 5:51 AM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] image for windows 3.0

I wanted to do a full system backup on my laptop. I get the message that the
last backup was 139 days ago. I tried it several times and during the last
pass I get the message that it failed because verification failed. I did a
check disk on the c drive on the laptop and also on the usb drive. Both came
up clean. Any suggestions?


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Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

[David Ferrin]

The following commands will shutdown and reboot your system:

shutdown -s -f -t 00

shutdown -r -f -t 00

Note: the notation of 00 means the system will perform the task right away. 
So say you wanted it to shutdown in an hour, then change the number to 3600. 
Also note, any time more than 00 you do not need to include the -f switch 
because it is assumed at that point.


I always create such icons on any system I work on, no matter if it is mine 
or not. It is just something to make life a little easier.


-Original Message- 
From: Lenny McHugh

Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 5:48 AM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

I very seldom use my hp laptop. I am using a wireless full size keyboard,
latest jaws 18, win 10. It looks like the only way that I can shut down the
laptop is with the power button. I thought in the past that alt f4 on the
desktop would reveal those options. I tried using the down or up arrow in
the running apps and also on the desktop.
Any help appreciated.


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[JAWS-Users] image for windows 3.0

[Lenny McHugh]

I wanted to do a full system backup on my laptop. I get the message that the 
last backup was 139 days ago. I tried it several times and during the last 
pass I get the message that it failed because verification failed. I did a 
check disk on the c drive on the laptop and also on the usb drive. Both came 
up clean. Any suggestions?


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[JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

[Lenny McHugh]

I very seldom use my hp laptop. I am using a wireless full size keyboard, 
latest jaws 18, win 10. It looks like the only way that I can shut down the 
laptop is with the power button. I thought in the past that alt f4 on the 
desktop would reveal those options. I tried using the down or up arrow in 
the running apps and also on the desktop.
Any help appreciated.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] confusing webpage

[Vicki]

Yes, and that made no difference.


- Original Message - 
From: "Stephen Bennett" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 5:31 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] confusing webpage



Hi Vikki and List

Have you tried turning off the Language detect feature?

While on the page, open quick settings with JawsKey + V, then type 
Language

into the search box. Down arrow to the feature and make sure it's turned
off. You can turn it back on later if you need it.

All the Best

S B



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Vicki
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 4:58 AM
To: JAWS 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] confusing webpage

Good Afternoon,

I have a rather odd issue with a webpage and JAWS.

I will paste the link to the page below so that if anyone would like to 
take

a look, feel free.

The page is in either Spanish or Italian. The speech is very fast and I 
need

it slower to figure out the language, I think Spanish.

That's not my problem, though.

When I select the English option, it actually goes to the English page and
shows only English on the screen. However, Jaws is still reading in the
other language.

Why would this happen and how can I fix it?

Here is the link.

http://www.postocd.org/

Thanks.

Vicki
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Audio tutorials.

[David Moore]

Hi Anita,
Yes, there are many audio only tutorials, and daisy tutorials with audio and 
text.
Go to the URL:
www.freedomscientific.com
Go to the bottom of the page with CTRL+end.
Now, arrow up a few times until you get to training. Enter there, and you will 
see many tutorials and archived webinars that have been done over the years 
that will help you a lot to learn using JAWS in many different situations and 
in many programs.
David Moore
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From: Anita E
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 3:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Audio tutorials.

Hi list,
Are there audio tutorials available for Jaws or only tx/t HTML?
Thanks,
Anita


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