Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS cursor in Windows 10, and certain programs
Hi Fernando. Very curious. Thanks. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Fernando Gregoire Sent: April 26, 2018 4:49 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS cursor in Windows 10, and certain programs Hi, As I said in my prior message, there's no more information than the bullet in the enhancement list for JAWS 2018 April update and the description of the option in Settings Center. Even in the English help (Spanish one sometimes adds certain information with a small delay), there is no mention at all about this new Accessibility Monitor API, and as far as I know there's also no more related content on the FSDN, technical support bulletings, Freedom Scientific blog nor the Enhancements in Scripting page. Best regards, Fernando Gregoire 2018-04-26 11:37 GMT-03:00 JM Casey <crystallo...@ca.inter.net>: > Hi Fernando. > Tha > T's very interesting. Thanks for this. I am still using JAWS 18, but > considering the upgrade. > > Is there any more information about this "Accessibility Monitor"? > > > > -Original Message- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] > On Behalf Of Fernando Gregoire > Sent: April 25, 2018 2:30 AM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS cursor in Windows 10, and certain > programs > > Hi, > > Freedom Scientific is aware of the increasingly common problems > regarding JAWS/Invisible Cursor and other things which use the Off > Screen Model (OSM). Because of this, in the JAWS 2018 April update, an > option was added to the Miscellaneous group of Settings Center. > This option is a checkbox named Use Accessibility Driver. By default > it is checked, which means the old behavior is used, but you can try > to uncheck it to use a new technology called Accessibility Monitor API. > This is not currently on the JAWS help system and by default it uses > the classic infrastructure, so I assume this is still an experimental > development we should use at our own risk; perhaps someone at Freedom > Scientific could confirm this thought. > > Hope it helps! > > -Original Message- > From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On > Behalf Of JM Casey > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 3:30 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS cursor in Windows 10, and certain > programs > > Hi everyone. > > > > I'm using Windows 10 1709 with JAWS 18. I use a few old programs, like > Soulseek nS, where I have most noticed this issue, but I've noted it > using other programs as well; just can't think of them at the moment. > This slsk program requires some JAWS cursor use, to move the mouse > pointer, open the search dialog, etc. Usually, it works fine, although > if the window ever accidentally gets minimised, I lose access to the > program entirely and have to restart it - I think this is some > incompatibility issue with Windows 10. > Now, periodically, I have noticed that when the window is up, and I am > trying to use the jAWS cursor to move around, it will seem to get stuck. > Instead of saying "blank" or not saying anything (as was reported by > another user a few weeks back), it will say a bunch of really weird > stuff, like it is seeing an example of every kind of control and > attribute and trying to report them, even though they are not there. > It will say stuff like "checked unchecked pressed clickable draggable > droppable invalid entry read only", and I won't be able to move the > cursor anywhere. I have noticed that resizing the window or routing > the cursor to PC sometimes solves the problem, but not consistently. > As I know this behaviour manifests in other things, too, I was > wondering if anyone had experienced this, and what you do to "free up" the > cursor. Any thoughts? > > > > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > --- > El software de antivirus Avast ha analizado este correo electrónico en > busca de virus. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS cursor in Windows 10, and certain programs
Hi, As I said in my prior message, there's no more information than the bullet in the enhancement list for JAWS 2018 April update and the description of the option in Settings Center. Even in the English help (Spanish one sometimes adds certain information with a small delay), there is no mention at all about this new Accessibility Monitor API, and as far as I know there's also no more related content on the FSDN, technical support bulletings, Freedom Scientific blog nor the Enhancements in Scripting page. Best regards, Fernando Gregoire 2018-04-26 11:37 GMT-03:00 JM Casey <crystallo...@ca.inter.net>: > Hi Fernando. > Tha > T's very interesting. Thanks for this. I am still using JAWS 18, but > considering the upgrade. > > Is there any more information about this "Accessibility Monitor"? > > > > -Original Message- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On > Behalf Of Fernando Gregoire > Sent: April 25, 2018 2:30 AM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS cursor in Windows 10, and certain > programs > > Hi, > > Freedom Scientific is aware of the increasingly common problems regarding > JAWS/Invisible Cursor and other things which use the Off Screen Model > (OSM). Because of this, in the JAWS 2018 April update, an option was added > to the Miscellaneous group of Settings Center. > This option is a checkbox named Use Accessibility Driver. By default it is > checked, which means the old behavior is used, but you can try to uncheck > it to use a new technology called Accessibility Monitor API. > This is not currently on the JAWS help system and by default it uses the > classic infrastructure, so I assume this is still an experimental > development we should use at our own risk; perhaps someone at Freedom > Scientific could confirm this thought. > > Hope it helps! > > -Original Message- > From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf > Of JM Casey > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 3:30 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS cursor in Windows 10, and certain programs > > Hi everyone. > > > > I'm using Windows 10 1709 with JAWS 18. I use a few old programs, like > Soulseek nS, where I have most noticed this issue, but I've noted it using > other programs as well; just can't think of them at the moment. This slsk > program requires some JAWS cursor use, to move the mouse pointer, open the > search dialog, etc. Usually, it works fine, although if the window ever > accidentally gets minimised, I lose access to the program entirely and have > to restart it - I think this is some incompatibility issue with Windows 10. > Now, periodically, I have noticed that when the window is up, and I am > trying to use the jAWS cursor to move around, it will seem to get stuck. > Instead of saying "blank" or not saying anything (as was reported by > another user a few weeks back), it will say a bunch of really weird stuff, > like it is seeing an example of every kind of control and attribute and > trying to report them, even though they are not there. It will say stuff > like "checked unchecked pressed clickable draggable droppable invalid entry > read only", and I won't be able to move the cursor anywhere. I have noticed > that resizing the window or routing the cursor to PC sometimes solves the > problem, but not consistently. As I know this behaviour manifests in other > things, too, I was wondering if anyone had experienced this, and what you > do to "free up" the cursor. Any thoughts? > > > > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > --- > El software de antivirus Avast ha analizado este correo electrónico en > busca de virus. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS cursor in Windows 10, and certain programs
Hi Fernando. Tha T's very interesting. Thanks for this. I am still using JAWS 18, but considering the upgrade. Is there any more information about this "Accessibility Monitor"? -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Fernando Gregoire Sent: April 25, 2018 2:30 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS cursor in Windows 10, and certain programs Hi, Freedom Scientific is aware of the increasingly common problems regarding JAWS/Invisible Cursor and other things which use the Off Screen Model (OSM). Because of this, in the JAWS 2018 April update, an option was added to the Miscellaneous group of Settings Center. This option is a checkbox named Use Accessibility Driver. By default it is checked, which means the old behavior is used, but you can try to uncheck it to use a new technology called Accessibility Monitor API. This is not currently on the JAWS help system and by default it uses the classic infrastructure, so I assume this is still an experimental development we should use at our own risk; perhaps someone at Freedom Scientific could confirm this thought. Hope it helps! -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 3:30 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS cursor in Windows 10, and certain programs Hi everyone. I'm using Windows 10 1709 with JAWS 18. I use a few old programs, like Soulseek nS, where I have most noticed this issue, but I've noted it using other programs as well; just can't think of them at the moment. This slsk program requires some JAWS cursor use, to move the mouse pointer, open the search dialog, etc. Usually, it works fine, although if the window ever accidentally gets minimised, I lose access to the program entirely and have to restart it - I think this is some incompatibility issue with Windows 10. Now, periodically, I have noticed that when the window is up, and I am trying to use the jAWS cursor to move around, it will seem to get stuck. Instead of saying "blank" or not saying anything (as was reported by another user a few weeks back), it will say a bunch of really weird stuff, like it is seeing an example of every kind of control and attribute and trying to report them, even though they are not there. It will say stuff like "checked unchecked pressed clickable draggable droppable invalid entry read only", and I won't be able to move the cursor anywhere. I have noticed that resizing the window or routing the cursor to PC sometimes solves the problem, but not consistently. As I know this behaviour manifests in other things, too, I was wondering if anyone had experienced this, and what you do to "free up" the cursor. Any thoughts? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ --- El software de antivirus Avast ha analizado este correo electrónico en busca de virus. https://www.avast.com/antivirus For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS cursor in Windows 10, and certain programs
I Do fine some situations where the JAWS cursor doesn't seem to work as expected. I Normally get what I need by flicking in to touch cursor mode with shift+insertpad plus key. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: 24 April 2018 19:30 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS cursor in Windows 10, and certain programs Hi everyone. I'm using Windows 10 1709 with JAWS 18. I use a few old programs, like Soulseek nS, where I have most noticed this issue, but I've noted it using other programs as well; just can't think of them at the moment. This slsk program requires some JAWS cursor use, to move the mouse pointer, open the search dialog, etc. Usually, it works fine, although if the window ever accidentally gets minimised, I lose access to the program entirely and have to restart it - I think this is some incompatibility issue with Windows 10. Now, periodically, I have noticed that when the window is up, and I am trying to use the jAWS cursor to move around, it will seem to get stuck. Instead of saying "blank" or not saying anything (as was reported by another user a few weeks back), it will say a bunch of really weird stuff, like it is seeing an example of every kind of control and attribute and trying to report them, even though they are not there. It will say stuff like "checked unchecked pressed clickable draggable droppable invalid entry read only", and I won't be able to move the cursor anywhere. I have noticed that resizing the window or routing the cursor to PC sometimes solves the problem, but not consistently. As I know this behaviour manifests in other things, too, I was wondering if anyone had experienced this, and what you do to "free up" the cursor. Any thoughts? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ This message may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient please inform the sender that you have received the message in error before deleting it. Please do not disclose, copy or distribute information in this e-mail or take any action in relation to its contents. To do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Thank you for your co-operation. NHSmail is the secure email and directory service available for all NHS staff in England and Scotland. NHSmail is approved for exchanging patient data and other sensitive information with NHSmail and other accredited email services. For more information and to find out how you can switch, https://portal.nhs.net/help/joiningnhsmail For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS cursor in Windows 10, and certain programs
Hi, Freedom Scientific is aware of the increasingly common problems regarding JAWS/Invisible Cursor and other things which use the Off Screen Model (OSM). Because of this, in the JAWS 2018 April update, an option was added to the Miscellaneous group of Settings Center. This option is a checkbox named Use Accessibility Driver. By default it is checked, which means the old behavior is used, but you can try to uncheck it to use a new technology called Accessibility Monitor API. This is not currently on the JAWS help system and by default it uses the classic infrastructure, so I assume this is still an experimental development we should use at our own risk; perhaps someone at Freedom Scientific could confirm this thought. Hope it helps! -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 3:30 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS cursor in Windows 10, and certain programs Hi everyone. I'm using Windows 10 1709 with JAWS 18. I use a few old programs, like Soulseek nS, where I have most noticed this issue, but I've noted it using other programs as well; just can't think of them at the moment. This slsk program requires some JAWS cursor use, to move the mouse pointer, open the search dialog, etc. Usually, it works fine, although if the window ever accidentally gets minimised, I lose access to the program entirely and have to restart it - I think this is some incompatibility issue with Windows 10. Now, periodically, I have noticed that when the window is up, and I am trying to use the jAWS cursor to move around, it will seem to get stuck. Instead of saying "blank" or not saying anything (as was reported by another user a few weeks back), it will say a bunch of really weird stuff, like it is seeing an example of every kind of control and attribute and trying to report them, even though they are not there. It will say stuff like "checked unchecked pressed clickable draggable droppable invalid entry read only", and I won't be able to move the cursor anywhere. I have noticed that resizing the window or routing the cursor to PC sometimes solves the problem, but not consistently. As I know this behaviour manifests in other things, too, I was wondering if anyone had experienced this, and what you do to "free up" the cursor. Any thoughts? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ --- El software de antivirus Avast ha analizado este correo electrónico en busca de virus. https://www.avast.com/antivirus For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS cursor in Windows 10, and certain programs
Maybe try routing pc to jaws, and then hitting your jaws cursor again.-Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 2:48 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS cursor in Windows 10, and certain programs Yeah...screen referesh doesn't really seem to do anything. Restarting jAWS might help sometimes. Was just hoping for a consistently workable solution. Thanks, man. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Justin Williams Sent: April 24, 2018 2:46 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS cursor in Windows 10, and certain programs I haven't, but I'd use insert windows f4 and reboot jaws, if screen refresh didn't work. Justin -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 2:30 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS cursor in Windows 10, and certain programs Hi everyone. I'm using Windows 10 1709 with JAWS 18. I use a few old programs, like Soulseek nS, where I have most noticed this issue, but I've noted it using other programs as well; just can't think of them at the moment. This slsk program requires some JAWS cursor use, to move the mouse pointer, open the search dialog, etc. Usually, it works fine, although if the window ever accidentally gets minimised, I lose access to the program entirely and have to restart it - I think this is some incompatibility issue with Windows 10. Now, periodically, I have noticed that when the window is up, and I am trying to use the jAWS cursor to move around, it will seem to get stuck. Instead of saying "blank" or not saying anything (as was reported by another user a few weeks back), it will say a bunch of really weird stuff, like it is seeing an example of every kind of control and attribute and trying to report them, even though they are not there. It will say stuff like "checked unchecked pressed clickable draggable droppable invalid entry read only", and I won't be able to move the cursor anywhere. I have noticed that resizing the window or routing the cursor to PC sometimes solves the problem, but not consistently. As I know this behaviour manifests in other things, too, I was wondering if anyone had experienced this, and what you do to "free up" the cursor. Any thoughts? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS cursor in Windows 10, and certain programs
Yeah...screen referesh doesn't really seem to do anything. Restarting jAWS might help sometimes. Was just hoping for a consistently workable solution. Thanks, man. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Justin Williams Sent: April 24, 2018 2:46 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS cursor in Windows 10, and certain programs I haven't, but I'd use insert windows f4 and reboot jaws, if screen refresh didn't work. Justin -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 2:30 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS cursor in Windows 10, and certain programs Hi everyone. I'm using Windows 10 1709 with JAWS 18. I use a few old programs, like Soulseek nS, where I have most noticed this issue, but I've noted it using other programs as well; just can't think of them at the moment. This slsk program requires some JAWS cursor use, to move the mouse pointer, open the search dialog, etc. Usually, it works fine, although if the window ever accidentally gets minimised, I lose access to the program entirely and have to restart it - I think this is some incompatibility issue with Windows 10. Now, periodically, I have noticed that when the window is up, and I am trying to use the jAWS cursor to move around, it will seem to get stuck. Instead of saying "blank" or not saying anything (as was reported by another user a few weeks back), it will say a bunch of really weird stuff, like it is seeing an example of every kind of control and attribute and trying to report them, even though they are not there. It will say stuff like "checked unchecked pressed clickable draggable droppable invalid entry read only", and I won't be able to move the cursor anywhere. I have noticed that resizing the window or routing the cursor to PC sometimes solves the problem, but not consistently. As I know this behaviour manifests in other things, too, I was wondering if anyone had experienced this, and what you do to "free up" the cursor. Any thoughts? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS cursor in Windows 10, and certain programs
I haven't, but I'd use insert windows f4 and reboot jaws, if screen refresh didn't work. Justin -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 2:30 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS cursor in Windows 10, and certain programs Hi everyone. I'm using Windows 10 1709 with JAWS 18. I use a few old programs, like Soulseek nS, where I have most noticed this issue, but I've noted it using other programs as well; just can't think of them at the moment. This slsk program requires some JAWS cursor use, to move the mouse pointer, open the search dialog, etc. Usually, it works fine, although if the window ever accidentally gets minimised, I lose access to the program entirely and have to restart it - I think this is some incompatibility issue with Windows 10. Now, periodically, I have noticed that when the window is up, and I am trying to use the jAWS cursor to move around, it will seem to get stuck. Instead of saying "blank" or not saying anything (as was reported by another user a few weeks back), it will say a bunch of really weird stuff, like it is seeing an example of every kind of control and attribute and trying to report them, even though they are not there. It will say stuff like "checked unchecked pressed clickable draggable droppable invalid entry read only", and I won't be able to move the cursor anywhere. I have noticed that resizing the window or routing the cursor to PC sometimes solves the problem, but not consistently. As I know this behaviour manifests in other things, too, I was wondering if anyone had experienced this, and what you do to "free up" the cursor. Any thoughts? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] The JAWS cursor in Windows 10, and certain programs
Hi everyone. I'm using Windows 10 1709 with JAWS 18. I use a few old programs, like Soulseek nS, where I have most noticed this issue, but I've noted it using other programs as well; just can't think of them at the moment. This slsk program requires some JAWS cursor use, to move the mouse pointer, open the search dialog, etc. Usually, it works fine, although if the window ever accidentally gets minimised, I lose access to the program entirely and have to restart it - I think this is some incompatibility issue with Windows 10. Now, periodically, I have noticed that when the window is up, and I am trying to use the jAWS cursor to move around, it will seem to get stuck. Instead of saying "blank" or not saying anything (as was reported by another user a few weeks back), it will say a bunch of really weird stuff, like it is seeing an example of every kind of control and attribute and trying to report them, even though they are not there. It will say stuff like "checked unchecked pressed clickable draggable droppable invalid entry read only", and I won't be able to move the cursor anywhere. I have noticed that resizing the window or routing the cursor to PC sometimes solves the problem, but not consistently. As I know this behaviour manifests in other things, too, I was wondering if anyone had experienced this, and what you do to "free up" the cursor. Any thoughts? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
