Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

2018-01-01 Thread Mike B.
Hi Steve,

Yes, that's the build of Widows 10 I'm running, & step #2 is the step I 
used.
- Original Message - 
From: Steve
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, January 01, 2018 9:22 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest


Mike,

Is that applicable for build 1709?  I thought the only way you can do this
is with Windows 10 Enterprise editions now.

- Original Message - 
From: "Mike B." <mb69ma...@charter.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest


> Hi JM,
>
> Here's how you can disable Cortana:
> From: David Ferrin
> ***
> Follow these steps to turn off Cortana in Windows 10
>
> It is actually pretty straightforward to disable Cortana, in fact, there
> are
> two ways to do this task. The first option is by launching Cortana from
> the
> search bar on the taskbar. Then, from the left pane click the settings
> button, and under "Cortana" (the first option) and slide the pill switch
> to
> the Off position.
>
> The second option is by launching the Settings app and on Privacy, go to
> Speech, inking, & typing, and click Stop getting to know me.
> David Ferrin
> Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
> - Original Message ----- 
> From: JM Casey
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 2:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest
>
>
> I have Win 10 "pro", which seems to have more configurability than the
> home
> edition.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Joseph Lee
> Sent: December 31, 2017 5:16 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest
>
> Hi,
> Depends. Under some circumstances, Cortana can be turned off (but for
> enterprises), whereas it can't be done for consumers.
> Cheers,
> Joseph
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of JM Casey
> Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 2:03 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest
>
> Ah, thanks for that. You always post useful information here. So I guess
> the
> registry entry "Enablecortana" (can't remember the actual entry, but it's
> something like that) set to 0 no longer does anything? I noticed it's
> always
> running now and yeah, there doesn't seem anything to be done about it. I
> guess it's harmless. Haha
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Joseph Lee
> Sent: December 30, 2017 6:51 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest
>
> Hi,
> Whenever you move away from a universal app, it'll be suspended. A small
> piece of the app will continue to run in the background if told to do so.
> As
> for this affecting startup, I don't know for sure.
> As for Cortana: until a few years ago, you could disable Cortana
> altogether.
> Now you can't: some found out that if you did disable Cortana from an
> earlier Windows 10 release, enabling it in recent releases is hard, and
> for
> some, requiring a system reset. Cortana has become a part of Windows 10
> that
> cannot be separated easily (at least for majority of users), as it now
> powers search experience (including online search capability in Start menu
> in Version 1709). These days, Cortana has become more proactive to a point
> where it'll offer to save things that might interest you (called
> "collections", which will make its debut in 2018).
> Cheers,
> Joseph
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of JM Casey
> Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 3:36 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest
>
> Hey Joseph.
>
> I don't have the problem posted above, but thanks for posting this
> explanation anyway. So, I have found this setting about background-running
> apps and unchecked the box. Does this mean they will essentially open and
> close as standard desktop programmes do? Does this affect apps loaded into
> the background at startup? For example, I always see cortana nowadays in
> my
> task manager, even though I do not use it and in fact modified the
> registry
> to disable it.
>
>

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

2018-01-01 Thread JM Casey
Hey guys.

Indeed, I think I already did this. At least, I think so ... I can't check,
because the setting no longer seems to be there. However, I also modified
the registry to be sure, and that change definitely stuck. I don't think
cortana is actually enabled; it's just still running as a background app,
and as I'm weird about these things and don't really like things running
when they're not needed, it bugs me. I'm the same with my phone, which needs
to be rooted in order to make me happy. :D



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Steve
Sent: January 1, 2018 12:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Mike,

Is that applicable for build 1709?  I thought the only way you can do this
is with Windows 10 Enterprise editions now.

- Original Message -
From: "Mike B." <mb69ma...@charter.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest


> Hi JM,
>
> Here's how you can disable Cortana:
> From: David Ferrin
> ***
> Follow these steps to turn off Cortana in Windows 10
>
> It is actually pretty straightforward to disable Cortana, in fact, there 
> are
> two ways to do this task. The first option is by launching Cortana from 
> the
> search bar on the taskbar. Then, from the left pane click the settings
> button, and under "Cortana" (the first option) and slide the pill switch 
> to
> the Off position.
>
> The second option is by launching the Settings app and on Privacy, go to
> Speech, inking, & typing, and click Stop getting to know me.
> David Ferrin
> Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
> - Original Message ----- 
> From: JM Casey
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 2:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest
>
>
> I have Win 10 "pro", which seems to have more configurability than the 
> home
> edition.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Joseph Lee
> Sent: December 31, 2017 5:16 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest
>
> Hi,
> Depends. Under some circumstances, Cortana can be turned off (but for
> enterprises), whereas it can't be done for consumers.
> Cheers,
> Joseph
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of JM Casey
> Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 2:03 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest
>
> Ah, thanks for that. You always post useful information here. So I guess 
> the
> registry entry "Enablecortana" (can't remember the actual entry, but it's
> something like that) set to 0 no longer does anything? I noticed it's 
> always
> running now and yeah, there doesn't seem anything to be done about it. I
> guess it's harmless. Haha
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Joseph Lee
> Sent: December 30, 2017 6:51 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest
>
> Hi,
> Whenever you move away from a universal app, it'll be suspended. A small
> piece of the app will continue to run in the background if told to do so. 
> As
> for this affecting startup, I don't know for sure.
> As for Cortana: until a few years ago, you could disable Cortana 
> altogether.
> Now you can't: some found out that if you did disable Cortana from an
> earlier Windows 10 release, enabling it in recent releases is hard, and 
> for
> some, requiring a system reset. Cortana has become a part of Windows 10 
> that
> cannot be separated easily (at least for majority of users), as it now
> powers search experience (including online search capability in Start menu
> in Version 1709). These days, Cortana has become more proactive to a point
> where it'll offer to save things that might interest you (called
> "collections", which will make its debut in 2018).
> Cheers,
> Joseph
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of JM Casey
> Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 3:36 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest
>
> Hey Joseph.
>
> I don't have the problem post

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

2018-01-01 Thread Steve

Mike,

Is that applicable for build 1709?  I thought the only way you can do this 
is with Windows 10 Enterprise editions now.


- Original Message - 
From: "Mike B." <mb69ma...@charter.net>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest



Hi JM,

Here's how you can disable Cortana:
From: David Ferrin
***
Follow these steps to turn off Cortana in Windows 10

It is actually pretty straightforward to disable Cortana, in fact, there 
are
two ways to do this task. The first option is by launching Cortana from 
the

search bar on the taskbar. Then, from the left pane click the settings
button, and under "Cortana" (the first option) and slide the pill switch 
to

the Off position.

The second option is by launching the Settings app and on Privacy, go to
Speech, inking, & typing, and click Stop getting to know me.
David Ferrin
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: JM Casey

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest


I have Win 10 "pro", which seems to have more configurability than the 
home

edition.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: December 31, 2017 5:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hi,
Depends. Under some circumstances, Cortana can be turned off (but for
enterprises), whereas it can't be done for consumers.
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 2:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Ah, thanks for that. You always post useful information here. So I guess 
the

registry entry "Enablecortana" (can't remember the actual entry, but it's
something like that) set to 0 no longer does anything? I noticed it's 
always

running now and yeah, there doesn't seem anything to be done about it. I
guess it's harmless. Haha



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: December 30, 2017 6:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hi,
Whenever you move away from a universal app, it'll be suspended. A small
piece of the app will continue to run in the background if told to do so. 
As

for this affecting startup, I don't know for sure.
As for Cortana: until a few years ago, you could disable Cortana 
altogether.

Now you can't: some found out that if you did disable Cortana from an
earlier Windows 10 release, enabling it in recent releases is hard, and 
for
some, requiring a system reset. Cortana has become a part of Windows 10 
that

cannot be separated easily (at least for majority of users), as it now
powers search experience (including online search capability in Start menu
in Version 1709). These days, Cortana has become more proactive to a point
where it'll offer to save things that might interest you (called
"collections", which will make its debut in 2018).
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 3:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hey Joseph.

I don't have the problem posted above, but thanks for posting this
explanation anyway. So, I have found this setting about background-running
apps and unchecked the box. Does this mean they will essentially open and
close as standard desktop programmes do? Does this affect apps loaded into
the background at startup? For example, I always see cortana nowadays in 
my
task manager, even though I do not use it and in fact modified the 
registry

to disable it.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: December 29, 2017 9:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hi,
Real reason: they are windows for universal apps. When you close a 
universal

app (such as Skype UWP, Cortana, Microsoft Store and what not) on Windows
10, they will still run. The technical term for this is called "app
suspension" (introduced in Windows 8.x) where the app window will appear 
to

have closed but are in fact suspended.
The JAWS window list command (JAWS Key+F10) lists top-level windows on
screen, including windows for universal apps. The "true" ways to close
universal apps are via Task Manager

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

2018-01-01 Thread Joseph Lee
Hi,
For consumers, Enterprise gives you nothing. Technically, yes, it gives more
options, but Windows 10 Enterprise and Education (the academic variant of
Enterprise) cannot be purchased as a standalone product by consumers, as
they are meant for companies and schools subscribing to software assurance.
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long
Sent: Monday, January 1, 2018 1:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

What does enterprise give you?  How much is it to upgrade from pro to
enterprise from pro?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 5:21 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hi,
Yes. In reality, you're using highest Windows 10 edition, but the license
you've got turns some features on or off. Compared to Pro, Enterprise gives
you more options.
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 2:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

I have Win 10 "pro", which seems to have more configurability than the home
edition.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: December 31, 2017 5:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hi,
Depends. Under some circumstances, Cortana can be turned off (but for
enterprises), whereas it can't be done for consumers.
Cheers,
Joseph 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 2:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Ah, thanks for that. You always post useful information here. So I guess the
registry entry "Enablecortana" (can't remember the actual entry, but it's
something like that) set to 0 no longer does anything? I noticed it's always
running now and yeah, there doesn't seem anything to be done about it. I
guess it's harmless. Haha



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: December 30, 2017 6:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hi,
Whenever you move away from a universal app, it'll be suspended. A small
piece of the app will continue to run in the background if told to do so. As
for this affecting startup, I don't know for sure.
As for Cortana: until a few years ago, you could disable Cortana altogether.
Now you can't: some found out that if you did disable Cortana from an
earlier Windows 10 release, enabling it in recent releases is hard, and for
some, requiring a system reset. Cortana has become a part of Windows 10 that
cannot be separated easily (at least for majority of users), as it now
powers search experience (including online search capability in Start menu
in Version 1709). These days, Cortana has become more proactive to a point
where it'll offer to save things that might interest you (called
"collections", which will make its debut in 2018).
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 3:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hey Joseph.

I don't have the problem posted above, but thanks for posting this
explanation anyway. So, I have found this setting about background-running
apps and unchecked the box. Does this mean they will essentially open and
close as standard desktop programmes do? Does this affect apps loaded into
the background at startup? For example, I always see cortana nowadays in my
task manager, even though I do not use it and in fact modified the registry
to disable it.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: December 29, 2017 9:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hi,
Real reason: they are windows for universal apps. When you close a universal
app (such as Skype UWP, Cortana, Microsoft Store and what not) on Windows
10, they will still run. The technical term for this is called "app
suspension" (introduced in Windows 8.x) where the app window will appear to
have closed but are in fact suspended.
The JAWS window list command (JAWS Key+F10) lists top-level windows on
screen, including windows for universal apps. The "true" ways to close
universal apps are via Tas

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

2018-01-01 Thread Dennis Long
What does enterprise give you?  How much is it to upgrade from pro to
enterprise from pro?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 5:21 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hi,
Yes. In reality, you're using highest Windows 10 edition, but the license
you've got turns some features on or off. Compared to Pro, Enterprise gives
you more options.
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 2:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

I have Win 10 "pro", which seems to have more configurability than the home
edition.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: December 31, 2017 5:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hi,
Depends. Under some circumstances, Cortana can be turned off (but for
enterprises), whereas it can't be done for consumers.
Cheers,
Joseph 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 2:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Ah, thanks for that. You always post useful information here. So I guess the
registry entry "Enablecortana" (can't remember the actual entry, but it's
something like that) set to 0 no longer does anything? I noticed it's always
running now and yeah, there doesn't seem anything to be done about it. I
guess it's harmless. Haha



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: December 30, 2017 6:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hi,
Whenever you move away from a universal app, it'll be suspended. A small
piece of the app will continue to run in the background if told to do so. As
for this affecting startup, I don't know for sure.
As for Cortana: until a few years ago, you could disable Cortana altogether.
Now you can't: some found out that if you did disable Cortana from an
earlier Windows 10 release, enabling it in recent releases is hard, and for
some, requiring a system reset. Cortana has become a part of Windows 10 that
cannot be separated easily (at least for majority of users), as it now
powers search experience (including online search capability in Start menu
in Version 1709). These days, Cortana has become more proactive to a point
where it'll offer to save things that might interest you (called
"collections", which will make its debut in 2018).
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 3:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hey Joseph.

I don't have the problem posted above, but thanks for posting this
explanation anyway. So, I have found this setting about background-running
apps and unchecked the box. Does this mean they will essentially open and
close as standard desktop programmes do? Does this affect apps loaded into
the background at startup? For example, I always see cortana nowadays in my
task manager, even though I do not use it and in fact modified the registry
to disable it.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: December 29, 2017 9:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hi,
Real reason: they are windows for universal apps. When you close a universal
app (such as Skype UWP, Cortana, Microsoft Store and what not) on Windows
10, they will still run. The technical term for this is called "app
suspension" (introduced in Windows 8.x) where the app window will appear to
have closed but are in fact suspended.
The JAWS window list command (JAWS Key+F10) lists top-level windows on
screen, including windows for universal apps. The "true" ways to close
universal apps are via Task Manager or going to Settings/Privacy/Background
and preventing apps from running in the background.
Also, someone suggested (here or somewhere) to use msconfig. No, this method
won't work on universal apps at all. There will come a time in 2018 where
you can open Settings app to control which apps start on startup, including
universal apps.
Cheers,
Joseph


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 6:26 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subje

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

2017-12-31 Thread Mike B.
Hi JM,

Here's how you can disable Cortana:
From: David Ferrin
***
Follow these steps to turn off Cortana in Windows 10

It is actually pretty straightforward to disable Cortana, in fact, there are 
two ways to do this task. The first option is by launching Cortana from the 
search bar on the taskbar. Then, from the left pane click the settings 
button, and under "Cortana" (the first option) and slide the pill switch to 
the Off position.

The second option is by launching the Settings app and on Privacy, go to 
Speech, inking, & typing, and click Stop getting to know me.
David Ferrin
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: JM Casey
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest


I have Win 10 "pro", which seems to have more configurability than the home
edition.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: December 31, 2017 5:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hi,
Depends. Under some circumstances, Cortana can be turned off (but for
enterprises), whereas it can't be done for consumers.
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 2:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Ah, thanks for that. You always post useful information here. So I guess the
registry entry "Enablecortana" (can't remember the actual entry, but it's
something like that) set to 0 no longer does anything? I noticed it's always
running now and yeah, there doesn't seem anything to be done about it. I
guess it's harmless. Haha



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: December 30, 2017 6:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hi,
Whenever you move away from a universal app, it'll be suspended. A small
piece of the app will continue to run in the background if told to do so. As
for this affecting startup, I don't know for sure.
As for Cortana: until a few years ago, you could disable Cortana altogether.
Now you can't: some found out that if you did disable Cortana from an
earlier Windows 10 release, enabling it in recent releases is hard, and for
some, requiring a system reset. Cortana has become a part of Windows 10 that
cannot be separated easily (at least for majority of users), as it now
powers search experience (including online search capability in Start menu
in Version 1709). These days, Cortana has become more proactive to a point
where it'll offer to save things that might interest you (called
"collections", which will make its debut in 2018).
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 3:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hey Joseph.

I don't have the problem posted above, but thanks for posting this
explanation anyway. So, I have found this setting about background-running
apps and unchecked the box. Does this mean they will essentially open and
close as standard desktop programmes do? Does this affect apps loaded into
the background at startup? For example, I always see cortana nowadays in my
task manager, even though I do not use it and in fact modified the registry
to disable it.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: December 29, 2017 9:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hi,
Real reason: they are windows for universal apps. When you close a universal
app (such as Skype UWP, Cortana, Microsoft Store and what not) on Windows
10, they will still run. The technical term for this is called "app
suspension" (introduced in Windows 8.x) where the app window will appear to
have closed but are in fact suspended.
The JAWS window list command (JAWS Key+F10) lists top-level windows on
screen, including windows for universal apps. The "true" ways to close
universal apps are via Task Manager or going to Settings/Privacy/Background
and preventing apps from running in the background.
Also, someone suggested (here or somewhere) to use msconfig. No, this method
won't work on universal apps at all. There will come a time in 2018 where
you can open Settings app to control which apps start on startup, including
universal apps.
Cheers,
Joseph


-Original Message---

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

2017-12-31 Thread Joseph Lee
Hi,
Yes. In reality, you're using highest Windows 10 edition, but the license
you've got turns some features on or off. Compared to Pro, Enterprise gives
you more options.
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 2:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

I have Win 10 "pro", which seems to have more configurability than the home
edition.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: December 31, 2017 5:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hi,
Depends. Under some circumstances, Cortana can be turned off (but for
enterprises), whereas it can't be done for consumers.
Cheers,
Joseph 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 2:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Ah, thanks for that. You always post useful information here. So I guess the
registry entry "Enablecortana" (can't remember the actual entry, but it's
something like that) set to 0 no longer does anything? I noticed it's always
running now and yeah, there doesn't seem anything to be done about it. I
guess it's harmless. Haha



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: December 30, 2017 6:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hi,
Whenever you move away from a universal app, it'll be suspended. A small
piece of the app will continue to run in the background if told to do so. As
for this affecting startup, I don't know for sure.
As for Cortana: until a few years ago, you could disable Cortana altogether.
Now you can't: some found out that if you did disable Cortana from an
earlier Windows 10 release, enabling it in recent releases is hard, and for
some, requiring a system reset. Cortana has become a part of Windows 10 that
cannot be separated easily (at least for majority of users), as it now
powers search experience (including online search capability in Start menu
in Version 1709). These days, Cortana has become more proactive to a point
where it'll offer to save things that might interest you (called
"collections", which will make its debut in 2018).
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 3:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hey Joseph.

I don't have the problem posted above, but thanks for posting this
explanation anyway. So, I have found this setting about background-running
apps and unchecked the box. Does this mean they will essentially open and
close as standard desktop programmes do? Does this affect apps loaded into
the background at startup? For example, I always see cortana nowadays in my
task manager, even though I do not use it and in fact modified the registry
to disable it.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: December 29, 2017 9:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hi,
Real reason: they are windows for universal apps. When you close a universal
app (such as Skype UWP, Cortana, Microsoft Store and what not) on Windows
10, they will still run. The technical term for this is called "app
suspension" (introduced in Windows 8.x) where the app window will appear to
have closed but are in fact suspended.
The JAWS window list command (JAWS Key+F10) lists top-level windows on
screen, including windows for universal apps. The "true" ways to close
universal apps are via Task Manager or going to Settings/Privacy/Background
and preventing apps from running in the background.
Also, someone suggested (here or somewhere) to use msconfig. No, this method
won't work on universal apps at all. There will come a time in 2018 where
you can open Settings app to control which apps start on startup, including
universal apps.
Cheers,
Joseph


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 6:26 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hi John,

I've been through msconfig, background apps, Taskbar settings, & I've turned
off a lot of things, but all that crap still shows up in the Jaws Task List
dialogue.  Thank you very much for your reply, & a very happy New Year to
all.
- Original Message -
From: John R. Vau

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

2017-12-31 Thread JM Casey
I have Win 10 "pro", which seems to have more configurability than the home
edition.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: December 31, 2017 5:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hi,
Depends. Under some circumstances, Cortana can be turned off (but for
enterprises), whereas it can't be done for consumers.
Cheers,
Joseph 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 2:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Ah, thanks for that. You always post useful information here. So I guess the
registry entry "Enablecortana" (can't remember the actual entry, but it's
something like that) set to 0 no longer does anything? I noticed it's always
running now and yeah, there doesn't seem anything to be done about it. I
guess it's harmless. Haha



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: December 30, 2017 6:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hi,
Whenever you move away from a universal app, it'll be suspended. A small
piece of the app will continue to run in the background if told to do so. As
for this affecting startup, I don't know for sure.
As for Cortana: until a few years ago, you could disable Cortana altogether.
Now you can't: some found out that if you did disable Cortana from an
earlier Windows 10 release, enabling it in recent releases is hard, and for
some, requiring a system reset. Cortana has become a part of Windows 10 that
cannot be separated easily (at least for majority of users), as it now
powers search experience (including online search capability in Start menu
in Version 1709). These days, Cortana has become more proactive to a point
where it'll offer to save things that might interest you (called
"collections", which will make its debut in 2018).
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 3:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hey Joseph.

I don't have the problem posted above, but thanks for posting this
explanation anyway. So, I have found this setting about background-running
apps and unchecked the box. Does this mean they will essentially open and
close as standard desktop programmes do? Does this affect apps loaded into
the background at startup? For example, I always see cortana nowadays in my
task manager, even though I do not use it and in fact modified the registry
to disable it.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: December 29, 2017 9:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hi,
Real reason: they are windows for universal apps. When you close a universal
app (such as Skype UWP, Cortana, Microsoft Store and what not) on Windows
10, they will still run. The technical term for this is called "app
suspension" (introduced in Windows 8.x) where the app window will appear to
have closed but are in fact suspended.
The JAWS window list command (JAWS Key+F10) lists top-level windows on
screen, including windows for universal apps. The "true" ways to close
universal apps are via Task Manager or going to Settings/Privacy/Background
and preventing apps from running in the background.
Also, someone suggested (here or somewhere) to use msconfig. No, this method
won't work on universal apps at all. There will come a time in 2018 where
you can open Settings app to control which apps start on startup, including
universal apps.
Cheers,
Joseph


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 6:26 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hi John,

I've been through msconfig, background apps, Taskbar settings, & I've turned
off a lot of things, but all that crap still shows up in the Jaws Task List
dialogue.  Thank you very much for your reply, & a very happy New Year to
all.
- Original Message -
From: John R. Vaughn
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 3:38 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest


Mike, in the run dialogue box,  type "msconfig".  In the startup tab, I
suspect you have a lot of "crap"(your words) and uncheck the items as you
down arrow through the list of startup items.  About all I leave checked in
the start up dialogue is Jaws.  Everything else you can star

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

2017-12-31 Thread Joseph Lee
Hi,
Depends. Under some circumstances, Cortana can be turned off (but for
enterprises), whereas it can't be done for consumers.
Cheers,
Joseph 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 2:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Ah, thanks for that. You always post useful information here. So I guess the
registry entry "Enablecortana" (can't remember the actual entry, but it's
something like that) set to 0 no longer does anything? I noticed it's always
running now and yeah, there doesn't seem anything to be done about it. I
guess it's harmless. Haha



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: December 30, 2017 6:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hi,
Whenever you move away from a universal app, it'll be suspended. A small
piece of the app will continue to run in the background if told to do so. As
for this affecting startup, I don't know for sure.
As for Cortana: until a few years ago, you could disable Cortana altogether.
Now you can't: some found out that if you did disable Cortana from an
earlier Windows 10 release, enabling it in recent releases is hard, and for
some, requiring a system reset. Cortana has become a part of Windows 10 that
cannot be separated easily (at least for majority of users), as it now
powers search experience (including online search capability in Start menu
in Version 1709). These days, Cortana has become more proactive to a point
where it'll offer to save things that might interest you (called
"collections", which will make its debut in 2018).
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 3:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hey Joseph.

I don't have the problem posted above, but thanks for posting this
explanation anyway. So, I have found this setting about background-running
apps and unchecked the box. Does this mean they will essentially open and
close as standard desktop programmes do? Does this affect apps loaded into
the background at startup? For example, I always see cortana nowadays in my
task manager, even though I do not use it and in fact modified the registry
to disable it.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: December 29, 2017 9:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hi,
Real reason: they are windows for universal apps. When you close a universal
app (such as Skype UWP, Cortana, Microsoft Store and what not) on Windows
10, they will still run. The technical term for this is called "app
suspension" (introduced in Windows 8.x) where the app window will appear to
have closed but are in fact suspended.
The JAWS window list command (JAWS Key+F10) lists top-level windows on
screen, including windows for universal apps. The "true" ways to close
universal apps are via Task Manager or going to Settings/Privacy/Background
and preventing apps from running in the background.
Also, someone suggested (here or somewhere) to use msconfig. No, this method
won't work on universal apps at all. There will come a time in 2018 where
you can open Settings app to control which apps start on startup, including
universal apps.
Cheers,
Joseph


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 6:26 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hi John,

I've been through msconfig, background apps, Taskbar settings, & I've turned
off a lot of things, but all that crap still shows up in the Jaws Task List
dialogue.  Thank you very much for your reply, & a very happy New Year to
all.
- Original Message -
From: John R. Vaughn
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 3:38 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest


Mike, in the run dialogue box,  type "msconfig".  In the startup tab, I
suspect you have a lot of "crap"(your words) and uncheck the items as you
down arrow through the list of startup items.  About all I leave checked in
the start up dialogue is Jaws.  Everything else you can start as needed.
Hope this helps.
John in sunny southwest florida

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 2:36 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hi All,

Running J16 thru J2018 & Widows 10 late

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

2017-12-31 Thread JM Casey
Ah, thanks for that. You always post useful information here. So I guess the
registry entry "Enablecortana" (can't remember the actual entry, but it's
something like that) set to 0 no longer does anything? I noticed it's always
running now and yeah, there doesn't seem anything to be done about it. I
guess it's harmless. Haha



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: December 30, 2017 6:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hi,
Whenever you move away from a universal app, it'll be suspended. A small
piece of the app will continue to run in the background if told to do so. As
for this affecting startup, I don't know for sure.
As for Cortana: until a few years ago, you could disable Cortana altogether.
Now you can't: some found out that if you did disable Cortana from an
earlier Windows 10 release, enabling it in recent releases is hard, and for
some, requiring a system reset. Cortana has become a part of Windows 10 that
cannot be separated easily (at least for majority of users), as it now
powers search experience (including online search capability in Start menu
in Version 1709). These days, Cortana has become more proactive to a point
where it'll offer to save things that might interest you (called
"collections", which will make its debut in 2018).
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 3:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hey Joseph.

I don't have the problem posted above, but thanks for posting this
explanation anyway. So, I have found this setting about background-running
apps and unchecked the box. Does this mean they will essentially open and
close as standard desktop programmes do? Does this affect apps loaded into
the background at startup? For example, I always see cortana nowadays in my
task manager, even though I do not use it and in fact modified the registry
to disable it.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: December 29, 2017 9:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hi,
Real reason: they are windows for universal apps. When you close a universal
app (such as Skype UWP, Cortana, Microsoft Store and what not) on Windows
10, they will still run. The technical term for this is called "app
suspension" (introduced in Windows 8.x) where the app window will appear to
have closed but are in fact suspended.
The JAWS window list command (JAWS Key+F10) lists top-level windows on
screen, including windows for universal apps. The "true" ways to close
universal apps are via Task Manager or going to Settings/Privacy/Background
and preventing apps from running in the background.
Also, someone suggested (here or somewhere) to use msconfig. No, this method
won't work on universal apps at all. There will come a time in 2018 where
you can open Settings app to control which apps start on startup, including
universal apps.
Cheers,
Joseph


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 6:26 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hi John,

I've been through msconfig, background apps, Taskbar settings, & I've turned
off a lot of things, but all that crap still shows up in the Jaws Task List
dialogue.  Thank you very much for your reply, & a very happy New Year to
all.
- Original Message -
From: John R. Vaughn
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 3:38 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest


Mike, in the run dialogue box,  type "msconfig".  In the startup tab, I
suspect you have a lot of "crap"(your words) and uncheck the items as you
down arrow through the list of startup items.  About all I leave checked in
the start up dialogue is Jaws.  Everything else you can start as needed.
Hope this helps.
John in sunny southwest florida

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 2:36 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hi All,

Running J16 thru J2018 & Widows 10 latest.  Whenever I invoke the, Insert /
Jaws key + F10, keystroke to open the Jaws task list dialogue I have the
following listed / showing:

Cortana   On Top
Main Menu   On Top
Microsoft Store
Maximized Microsoft Store   Restored
MicrosoftR WindowsR Operating System   On Top
OneNote   Maximized
OneNote   Restored
Settings   Maximized
Settings   Restored
Start   On Top
Windows Shell E

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

2017-12-30 Thread Joseph Lee
Hi,
Whenever you move away from a universal app, it'll be suspended. A small
piece of the app will continue to run in the background if told to do so. As
for this affecting startup, I don't know for sure.
As for Cortana: until a few years ago, you could disable Cortana altogether.
Now you can't: some found out that if you did disable Cortana from an
earlier Windows 10 release, enabling it in recent releases is hard, and for
some, requiring a system reset. Cortana has become a part of Windows 10 that
cannot be separated easily (at least for majority of users), as it now
powers search experience (including online search capability in Start menu
in Version 1709). These days, Cortana has become more proactive to a point
where it'll offer to save things that might interest you (called
"collections", which will make its debut in 2018).
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 3:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hey Joseph.

I don't have the problem posted above, but thanks for posting this
explanation anyway. So, I have found this setting about background-running
apps and unchecked the box. Does this mean they will essentially open and
close as standard desktop programmes do? Does this affect apps loaded into
the background at startup? For example, I always see cortana nowadays in my
task manager, even though I do not use it and in fact modified the registry
to disable it.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: December 29, 2017 9:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hi,
Real reason: they are windows for universal apps. When you close a universal
app (such as Skype UWP, Cortana, Microsoft Store and what not) on Windows
10, they will still run. The technical term for this is called "app
suspension" (introduced in Windows 8.x) where the app window will appear to
have closed but are in fact suspended.
The JAWS window list command (JAWS Key+F10) lists top-level windows on
screen, including windows for universal apps. The "true" ways to close
universal apps are via Task Manager or going to Settings/Privacy/Background
and preventing apps from running in the background.
Also, someone suggested (here or somewhere) to use msconfig. No, this method
won't work on universal apps at all. There will come a time in 2018 where
you can open Settings app to control which apps start on startup, including
universal apps.
Cheers,
Joseph


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 6:26 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hi John,

I've been through msconfig, background apps, Taskbar settings, & I've turned
off a lot of things, but all that crap still shows up in the Jaws Task List
dialogue.  Thank you very much for your reply, & a very happy New Year to
all.
- Original Message -
From: John R. Vaughn
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 3:38 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest


Mike, in the run dialogue box,  type "msconfig".  In the startup tab, I
suspect you have a lot of "crap"(your words) and uncheck the items as you
down arrow through the list of startup items.  About all I leave checked in
the start up dialogue is Jaws.  Everything else you can start as needed.
Hope this helps.
John in sunny southwest florida

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 2:36 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hi All,

Running J16 thru J2018 & Widows 10 latest.  Whenever I invoke the, Insert /
Jaws key + F10, keystroke to open the Jaws task list dialogue I have the
following listed / showing:

Cortana   On Top
Main Menu   On Top
Microsoft Store
Maximized Microsoft Store   Restored
MicrosoftR WindowsR Operating System   On Top
OneNote   Maximized
OneNote   Restored
Settings   Maximized
Settings   Restored
Start   On Top
Windows Shell Experience Host   On Top
Windows Shell Experience Host   Restored

My question, how do I stop all the above crap from showing?!  This is really
irritating!
All help will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.  A very happy &
prosperous New Year to all.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this l

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

2017-12-30 Thread JM Casey
Hey Joseph.

I don't have the problem posted above, but thanks for posting this
explanation anyway. So, I have found this setting about background-running
apps and unchecked the box. Does this mean they will essentially open and
close as standard desktop programmes do? Does this affect apps loaded into
the background at startup? For example, I always see cortana nowadays in my
task manager, even though I do not use it and in fact modified the registry
to disable it.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: December 29, 2017 9:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hi,
Real reason: they are windows for universal apps. When you close a universal
app (such as Skype UWP, Cortana, Microsoft Store and what not) on Windows
10, they will still run. The technical term for this is called "app
suspension" (introduced in Windows 8.x) where the app window will appear to
have closed but are in fact suspended.
The JAWS window list command (JAWS Key+F10) lists top-level windows on
screen, including windows for universal apps. The "true" ways to close
universal apps are via Task Manager or going to Settings/Privacy/Background
and preventing apps from running in the background.
Also, someone suggested (here or somewhere) to use msconfig. No, this method
won't work on universal apps at all. There will come a time in 2018 where
you can open Settings app to control which apps start on startup, including
universal apps.
Cheers,
Joseph


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 6:26 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hi John,

I've been through msconfig, background apps, Taskbar settings, & I've turned
off a lot of things, but all that crap still shows up in the Jaws Task List
dialogue.  Thank you very much for your reply, & a very happy New Year to
all.
- Original Message -
From: John R. Vaughn
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 3:38 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest


Mike, in the run dialogue box,  type "msconfig".  In the startup tab, I
suspect you have a lot of "crap"(your words) and uncheck the items as you
down arrow through the list of startup items.  About all I leave checked in
the start up dialogue is Jaws.  Everything else you can start as needed.
Hope this helps.
John in sunny southwest florida

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 2:36 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hi All,

Running J16 thru J2018 & Widows 10 latest.  Whenever I invoke the, Insert /
Jaws key + F10, keystroke to open the Jaws task list dialogue I have the
following listed / showing:

Cortana   On Top
Main Menu   On Top
Microsoft Store
Maximized Microsoft Store   Restored
MicrosoftR WindowsR Operating System   On Top
OneNote   Maximized
OneNote   Restored
Settings   Maximized
Settings   Restored
Start   On Top
Windows Shell Experience Host   On Top
Windows Shell Experience Host   Restored

My question, how do I stop all the above crap from showing?!  This is really
irritating!
All help will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.  A very happy &
prosperous New Year to all.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

2017-12-30 Thread Kurt Miller
Mike,
The live tiles are on the start screen. After pressing the windows key, tab
across and you will come to them.
Kurt

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 3:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hi Kurt,

I have to admit, I don't have a clue as to where to find or how to get into
Live Tiles!  This is a setting I have not come across, or just didn't
notice.  I have accomplished getting rid of all the stuff showing in the
Jaws Task List in all Jaws versions except for J16.  Thanks to you all!

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Kurt Miller
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 8:02 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest


Mike,
Did you check in the live tiles region and turn any of them off that may be
showing up in there? Upon reading your message, I remember an app doing this
to me.
Kurt

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 11:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hi Joseph,

I've turned off all apps in, Settings /Privacy, Background& turned off, Let
Apps Run in the Background, but several of these apps still show in the task
list.  It looks like that's just the way it's going to have to be, but
that's okay.  Thank you very much for the advice & explanation.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Joseph Lee
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest


Hi,
Real reason: they are windows for universal apps. When you close a universal
app (such as Skype UWP, Cortana, Microsoft Store and what not) on Windows
10, they will still run. The technical term for this is called "app
suspension" (introduced in Windows 8.x) where the app window will appear to
have closed but are in fact suspended.
The JAWS window list command (JAWS Key+F10) lists top-level windows on
screen, including windows for universal apps. The "true" ways to close
universal apps are via Task Manager or going to Settings/Privacy/Background
and preventing apps from running in the background.
Also, someone suggested (here or somewhere) to use msconfig. No, this method
won't work on universal apps at all. There will come a time in 2018 where
you can open Settings app to control which apps start on startup, including
universal apps.
Cheers,
Joseph


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 6:26 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hi John,

I've been through msconfig, background apps, Taskbar settings, & I've turned
off a lot of things, but all that crap still shows up in the Jaws Task List
dialogue.  Thank you very much for your reply, & a very happy New Year to
all.
- Original Message -
From: John R. Vaughn
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 3:38 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest


Mike, in the run dialogue box,  type "msconfig".  In the startup tab, I
suspect you have a lot of "crap"(your words) and uncheck the items as you
down arrow through the list of startup items.  About all I leave checked in
the start up dialogue is Jaws.  Everything else you can start as needed.
Hope this helps.
John in sunny southwest florida

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 2:36 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hi All,

Running J16 thru J2018 & Widows 10 latest.  Whenever I invoke the, Insert /
Jaws key + F10, keystroke to open the Jaws task list dialogue I have the
following listed / showing:

Cortana   On Top
Main Menu   On Top
Microsoft Store
Maximized Microsoft Store   Restored
MicrosoftR WindowsR Operating System   On Top
OneNote   Maximized
OneNote   Restored
Settings   Maximized
Settings   Restored
Start   On Top
Windows Shell Experience Host   On Top
Windows Shell Experience Host   Restored

My question, how do I stop all the above crap from showing?!  This is really
irritating!
All help will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.  A very happy &
prosperous New Year to all.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woma

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

2017-12-30 Thread Mike B.
Hi Kurt,

I have to admit, I don't have a clue as to where to find or how to get into 
Live Tiles!  This is a setting I have not come across, or just didn't 
notice.  I have accomplished getting rid of all the stuff showing in the 
Jaws Task List in all Jaws versions except for J16.  Thanks to you all!

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Kurt Miller
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 8:02 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest


Mike,
Did you check in the live tiles region and turn any of them off that may be
showing up in there? Upon reading your message, I remember an app doing this
to me.
Kurt

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 11:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hi Joseph,

I've turned off all apps in, Settings /Privacy, Background& turned off, Let
Apps Run in the Background, but several of these apps still show in the task
list.  It looks like that's just the way it's going to have to be, but
that's okay.  Thank you very much for the advice & explanation.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Joseph Lee
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest


Hi,
Real reason: they are windows for universal apps. When you close a universal
app (such as Skype UWP, Cortana, Microsoft Store and what not) on Windows
10, they will still run. The technical term for this is called "app
suspension" (introduced in Windows 8.x) where the app window will appear to
have closed but are in fact suspended.
The JAWS window list command (JAWS Key+F10) lists top-level windows on
screen, including windows for universal apps. The "true" ways to close
universal apps are via Task Manager or going to Settings/Privacy/Background
and preventing apps from running in the background.
Also, someone suggested (here or somewhere) to use msconfig. No, this method
won't work on universal apps at all. There will come a time in 2018 where
you can open Settings app to control which apps start on startup, including
universal apps.
Cheers,
Joseph


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 6:26 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hi John,

I've been through msconfig, background apps, Taskbar settings, & I've turned
off a lot of things, but all that crap still shows up in the Jaws Task List
dialogue.  Thank you very much for your reply, & a very happy New Year to
all.
- Original Message -
From: John R. Vaughn
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 3:38 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest


Mike, in the run dialogue box,  type "msconfig".  In the startup tab, I
suspect you have a lot of "crap"(your words) and uncheck the items as you
down arrow through the list of startup items.  About all I leave checked in
the start up dialogue is Jaws.  Everything else you can start as needed.
Hope this helps.
John in sunny southwest florida

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 2:36 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hi All,

Running J16 thru J2018 & Widows 10 latest.  Whenever I invoke the, Insert /
Jaws key + F10, keystroke to open the Jaws task list dialogue I have the
following listed / showing:

Cortana   On Top
Main Menu   On Top
Microsoft Store
Maximized Microsoft Store   Restored
MicrosoftR WindowsR Operating System   On Top
OneNote   Maximized
OneNote   Restored
Settings   Maximized
Settings   Restored
Start   On Top
Windows Shell Experience Host   On Top
Windows Shell Experience Host   Restored

My question, how do I stop all the above crap from showing?!  This is really
irritating!
All help will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.  A very happy &
prosperous New Year to all.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
For answers to frequently asked questions about this lis

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

2017-12-30 Thread Kurt Miller
Mike,
Did you check in the live tiles region and turn any of them off that may be
showing up in there? Upon reading your message, I remember an app doing this
to me.
Kurt

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 11:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hi Joseph,

I've turned off all apps in, Settings /Privacy, Background& turned off, Let
Apps Run in the Background, but several of these apps still show in the task
list.  It looks like that's just the way it's going to have to be, but
that's okay.  Thank you very much for the advice & explanation.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Joseph Lee
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest


Hi,
Real reason: they are windows for universal apps. When you close a universal
app (such as Skype UWP, Cortana, Microsoft Store and what not) on Windows
10, they will still run. The technical term for this is called "app
suspension" (introduced in Windows 8.x) where the app window will appear to
have closed but are in fact suspended.
The JAWS window list command (JAWS Key+F10) lists top-level windows on
screen, including windows for universal apps. The "true" ways to close
universal apps are via Task Manager or going to Settings/Privacy/Background
and preventing apps from running in the background.
Also, someone suggested (here or somewhere) to use msconfig. No, this method
won't work on universal apps at all. There will come a time in 2018 where
you can open Settings app to control which apps start on startup, including
universal apps.
Cheers,
Joseph


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 6:26 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hi John,

I've been through msconfig, background apps, Taskbar settings, & I've turned
off a lot of things, but all that crap still shows up in the Jaws Task List
dialogue.  Thank you very much for your reply, & a very happy New Year to
all.
- Original Message -
From: John R. Vaughn
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 3:38 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest


Mike, in the run dialogue box,  type "msconfig".  In the startup tab, I
suspect you have a lot of "crap"(your words) and uncheck the items as you
down arrow through the list of startup items.  About all I leave checked in
the start up dialogue is Jaws.  Everything else you can start as needed.
Hope this helps.
John in sunny southwest florida

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 2:36 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hi All,

Running J16 thru J2018 & Widows 10 latest.  Whenever I invoke the, Insert /
Jaws key + F10, keystroke to open the Jaws task list dialogue I have the
following listed / showing:

Cortana   On Top
Main Menu   On Top
Microsoft Store
Maximized Microsoft Store   Restored
MicrosoftR WindowsR Operating System   On Top
OneNote   Maximized
OneNote   Restored
Settings   Maximized
Settings   Restored
Start   On Top
Windows Shell Experience Host   On Top
Windows Shell Experience Host   Restored

My question, how do I stop all the above crap from showing?!  This is really
irritating!
All help will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.  A very happy &
prosperous New Year to all.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

2017-12-29 Thread Mike B.
Hi Joseph,

I've turned off all apps in, Settings /Privacy, Background& turned off, Let 
Apps Run in the Background, but several of these apps still show in the task 
list.  It looks like that's just the way it's going to have to be, but 
that's okay.  Thank you very much for the advice & explanation.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Joseph Lee
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest


Hi,
Real reason: they are windows for universal apps. When you close a universal
app (such as Skype UWP, Cortana, Microsoft Store and what not) on Windows
10, they will still run. The technical term for this is called "app
suspension" (introduced in Windows 8.x) where the app window will appear to
have closed but are in fact suspended.
The JAWS window list command (JAWS Key+F10) lists top-level windows on
screen, including windows for universal apps. The "true" ways to close
universal apps are via Task Manager or going to Settings/Privacy/Background
and preventing apps from running in the background.
Also, someone suggested (here or somewhere) to use msconfig. No, this method
won't work on universal apps at all. There will come a time in 2018 where
you can open Settings app to control which apps start on startup, including
universal apps.
Cheers,
Joseph


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 6:26 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hi John,

I've been through msconfig, background apps, Taskbar settings, & I've turned
off a lot of things, but all that crap still shows up in the Jaws Task List
dialogue.  Thank you very much for your reply, & a very happy New Year to
all.
- Original Message -
From: John R. Vaughn
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 3:38 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest


Mike, in the run dialogue box,  type "msconfig".  In the startup tab, I
suspect you have a lot of "crap"(your words) and uncheck the items as you
down arrow through the list of startup items.  About all I leave checked in
the start up dialogue is Jaws.  Everything else you can start as needed.
Hope this helps.
John in sunny southwest florida

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 2:36 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hi All,

Running J16 thru J2018 & Widows 10 latest.  Whenever I invoke the, Insert /
Jaws key + F10, keystroke to open the Jaws task list dialogue I have the
following listed / showing:

Cortana   On Top
Main Menu   On Top
Microsoft Store
Maximized Microsoft Store   Restored
MicrosoftR WindowsR Operating System   On Top
OneNote   Maximized
OneNote   Restored
Settings   Maximized
Settings   Restored
Start   On Top
Windows Shell Experience Host   On Top
Windows Shell Experience Host   Restored

My question, how do I stop all the above crap from showing?!  This is really
irritating!
All help will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.  A very happy &
prosperous New Year to all.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

2017-12-29 Thread Joseph Lee
Hi,
Real reason: they are windows for universal apps. When you close a universal
app (such as Skype UWP, Cortana, Microsoft Store and what not) on Windows
10, they will still run. The technical term for this is called "app
suspension" (introduced in Windows 8.x) where the app window will appear to
have closed but are in fact suspended.
The JAWS window list command (JAWS Key+F10) lists top-level windows on
screen, including windows for universal apps. The "true" ways to close
universal apps are via Task Manager or going to Settings/Privacy/Background
and preventing apps from running in the background.
Also, someone suggested (here or somewhere) to use msconfig. No, this method
won't work on universal apps at all. There will come a time in 2018 where
you can open Settings app to control which apps start on startup, including
universal apps.
Cheers,
Joseph


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 6:26 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hi John,

I've been through msconfig, background apps, Taskbar settings, & I've turned
off a lot of things, but all that crap still shows up in the Jaws Task List
dialogue.  Thank you very much for your reply, & a very happy New Year to
all.
- Original Message -
From: John R. Vaughn
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 3:38 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest


Mike, in the run dialogue box,  type "msconfig".  In the startup tab, I
suspect you have a lot of "crap"(your words) and uncheck the items as you
down arrow through the list of startup items.  About all I leave checked in
the start up dialogue is Jaws.  Everything else you can start as needed.
Hope this helps.
John in sunny southwest florida

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 2:36 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hi All,

Running J16 thru J2018 & Widows 10 latest.  Whenever I invoke the, Insert /
Jaws key + F10, keystroke to open the Jaws task list dialogue I have the
following listed / showing:

Cortana   On Top
Main Menu   On Top
Microsoft Store
Maximized Microsoft Store   Restored
MicrosoftR WindowsR Operating System   On Top
OneNote   Maximized
OneNote   Restored
Settings   Maximized
Settings   Restored
Start   On Top
Windows Shell Experience Host   On Top
Windows Shell Experience Host   Restored

My question, how do I stop all the above crap from showing?!  This is really
irritating!
All help will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.  A very happy &
prosperous New Year to all.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

2017-12-29 Thread Mike B.
Hi John,

I've been through msconfig, background apps, Taskbar settings, & I've turned 
off a lot of things, but all that crap still shows up in the Jaws Task List 
dialogue.  Thank you very much for your reply, & a very happy New Year to 
all.
- Original Message - 
From: John R. Vaughn
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 3:38 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest


Mike, in the run dialogue box,  type "msconfig".  In the startup tab, I
suspect you have a lot of "crap"(your words) and uncheck the items as you
down arrow through the list of startup items.  About all I leave checked in
the start up dialogue is Jaws.  Everything else you can start as needed.
Hope this helps.
John in sunny southwest florida

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 2:36 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hi All,

Running J16 thru J2018 & Widows 10 latest.  Whenever I invoke the, Insert /
Jaws key + F10, keystroke to open the Jaws task list dialogue I have the
following listed / showing:

Cortana   On Top
Main Menu   On Top
Microsoft Store
Maximized Microsoft Store   Restored
MicrosoftR WindowsR Operating System   On Top
OneNote   Maximized
OneNote   Restored
Settings   Maximized
Settings   Restored
Start   On Top
Windows Shell Experience Host   On Top
Windows Shell Experience Host   Restored

My question, how do I stop all the above crap from showing?!  This is really
irritating!
All help will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.  A very happy &
prosperous New Year to all.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

2017-12-29 Thread John R. Vaughn
Mike, in the run dialogue box,  type "msconfig".  In the startup tab, I
suspect you have a lot of "crap"(your words) and uncheck the items as you
down arrow through the list of startup items.  About all I leave checked in
the start up dialogue is Jaws.  Everything else you can start as needed.
Hope this helps.
John in sunny southwest florida 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 2:36 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hi All,

Running J16 thru J2018 & Widows 10 latest.  Whenever I invoke the, Insert /
Jaws key + F10, keystroke to open the Jaws task list dialogue I have the
following listed / showing:

Cortana   On Top
Main Menu   On Top
Microsoft Store
Maximized Microsoft Store   Restored
MicrosoftR WindowsR Operating System   On Top
OneNote   Maximized
OneNote   Restored
Settings   Maximized
Settings   Restored
Start   On Top
Windows Shell Experience Host   On Top
Windows Shell Experience Host   Restored

My question, how do I stop all the above crap from showing?!  This is really
irritating!
All help will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.  A very happy &
prosperous New Year to all.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. 
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/