Re: Is Greenpeace NGO backed up by Science or emotion?

2009-05-02 Thread Arnab Sen and Nitish Sinha
I would urge the writer to support this claim with credible evidence. 
References to the IUCN and Marine Turtles Group reports are required to 
substantiate this claim. As far as I know the promoters of the Dhamra port, 
particularly the Tata group has an abysmal record in CSR and corporate 
citizenship. This was proved in Kalinganagar and I have no reasonable evidence 
to support that Bombay House is not repeating its crimes. It is wiser to err on 
the side of caution in reaching judgements on an issue like this.

Arnab Sen



Dear All,

Very valid and contemporary issue related to Green peace. The staff and member 
of this organisation are registering protest in different extreme ways. There 
is a complete abscence of Morality in the modus oprendi of Green peace. The 
protection of Environment  Human Right needs to be synergised with Moral 
ethics. This is a big gap in this organisation. Whenever movement ignores 
Morality , it virtually void emotions. How is Morality placed in this 
organisation and how much thier staff are bestowing Morality? This is a 
realistic question.

Nitish Sinha 

Is Greenpeace NGO backed up by Science or emotion?

2009-04-15 Thread shiva
It seems that Greenpeace and other environmental organizations have a habit 
making unscientific demands without any scientific datas and inputs. This is 
clear from the position with regard to Dhamra Port. These organizations who 
claim themselves to work for environmental protection work more on emotional 
basis rather than on clear scientific reasoning and logic. On the request of 
Dhamra Port Company Ltd (DPCL), LT and Tata Steel, two of them namely BNHS and 
WWF initially agreed to do further environmental studies on Dhamra port way 
back in 2005, but withdrew in the last minute.

Due to the delaying tactics by the said organization the construction of Dhamra 
port was stopped for them for the period from Nov 2005 to March 2006. But 
inspite of the stoppage of the work at Dhamra, both BNHS and WWF withdrew from 
making further environmental studies on Dhamra Port. Similarly after 
discussions between both the environmental NGOs and Dhamra Port developers, 
additional study was agreed upon in Dec 2008 to assess Biological Impact by 
Dhamra Port. The study was supposed to be conducted by mutually agreed upon 
scientists. The promoters agreed upon for further studies inspite of 
International Union for Conservation of Nature (IUCN) – the world's most 
renowned scientific organisation being already involved in the study in Dhamra 
since last 2 years.

But similar to last time ( that in 2005), these organizations led by Greenpeace 
once again demanded to stop construction of Dhamra Port immediately in February 
2009. This demand has no scientific back-up or inputs and was purely made on 
emotional basis and it does not have scientific recommendation. However DPCL, 
Tata Steel and LT team showed it preparedness to adjust the schedule of works 
including dredging to facilitate the study after due recommendation by the 
Scientists team.

It may be noted that IUCN and the MTSG (Marine Turtle Scientific Group) 
scientists working with the group have clearly stated that dredging operations 
for Dhamra does not and will not affect the Olive Ridley Turtles in Gahirmatha 
Marine Sanctuary and its periphery area.

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