Re: [josm-dev] Any objections to a Google Maps tile source class in JMapViewer?

2013-02-06 Thread Dirk Stöcker

On Tue, 5 Feb 2013, Matt Hoover wrote:


I'm relatively new here, so perhaps I've missed discussion on this in the
past, but is there any reason not to include a Google Maps tile source
class option in JMapViewer?  I'm developing a separate app using JMapViewer
and would like to have a Google Maps layer option.  I can put it straight
in my app if I need to, but it would seem smarter to put it in JMV so
others can benefit, plus it is a more logical place for it.

I am not great at reading legalese, but the Google terms seem to permit
this as long as my attribution link goes to the actual location currently
in the map panel, using the system's browser and Google maps website:

https://developers.google.com/maps/terms - see 10.1.1 (h) (ii)

Of course if I create this class in JMapViewer it will not immediately
affect JOSM or any other using app in any way, unless those apps actually
choose to instantiate the class.  But I still don't want to do this without
knowing it is cool with the community.


Two reasons not to do so:

a) The TemplatedTMSTileSource can create a GoogleMap page without any 
trouble. There is no need for a special source class to support it.


b) We don't encourage usage of tile sources not usable within the OSM 
data creation process. Users tend to ignore rules if it is to easy to 
break them.


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Re: [josm-dev] Any objections to a Google Maps tile source class in JMapViewer?

2013-02-06 Thread Matt Hoover
Understood.  Thanks for the quick response.

On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 12:11 AM, Dirk Stöcker openstreet...@dstoecker.dewrote:

 On Tue, 5 Feb 2013, Matt Hoover wrote:

  I'm relatively new here, so perhaps I've missed discussion on this in the
 past, but is there any reason not to include a Google Maps tile source
 class option in JMapViewer?  I'm developing a separate app using
 JMapViewer
 and would like to have a Google Maps layer option.  I can put it straight
 in my app if I need to, but it would seem smarter to put it in JMV so
 others can benefit, plus it is a more logical place for it.

 I am not great at reading legalese, but the Google terms seem to permit
 this as long as my attribution link goes to the actual location currently
 in the map panel, using the system's browser and Google maps website:

 https://developers.google.com/**maps/termshttps://developers.google.com/maps/terms-
  see 10.1.1 (h) (ii)

 Of course if I create this class in JMapViewer it will not immediately
 affect JOSM or any other using app in any way, unless those apps actually
 choose to instantiate the class.  But I still don't want to do this
 without
 knowing it is cool with the community.


 Two reasons not to do so:

 a) The TemplatedTMSTileSource can create a GoogleMap page without any
 trouble. There is no need for a special source class to support it.

 b) We don't encourage usage of tile sources not usable within the OSM data
 creation process. Users tend to ignore rules if it is to easy to break them.

 Ciao
 --
 http://www.dstoecker.eu/ (PGP key available)


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Re: [josm-dev] Any objections to a Google Maps tile source class in JMapViewer?

2013-02-06 Thread Dirk Stöcker

On Wed, 6 Feb 2013, Matt Hoover wrote:


Understood.  Thanks for the quick response.


As the second reason probably does not apply to your app, you very 
likely need only two lines for GoogleMap setup. Initialisation of 
the Template and setting Attribution.


Feel free to ask (by direct e-mail) when you need help. That we don't do 
it does not mean we don't know how :-)


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