[kbuild-devel] kbuild status

2002-10-06 Thread Brendan J Simon


Hi kbuild team,

What is the status of kbuild with respect to getting into the kernel 
proper ?
Is it going to get into the linus kernel source tree ??

The reason I ask is that I require a kernel build system for the 2.4 
kernel on a embedded PowerPC architecture.  It seems that only the i386 
is being actively maintained.

I did do some work in porting the kbuild-2.5-1.12 to 2.4.18-pre8 some 
time ago.  It worked but did not work well with my Configuration 
Management System (Aegis).  Aparently kbuild-2.5-3.0 onwards should work 
with Aegis but I don't really have to time to report everything from 
scratch again.  I can probably generate patches for the work I've done 
for the embedded boards if anyone is interested ?  Unfortunately these 
patches would not be against the vanilla kernel sources, but against the 
linuxppc kernel tree (linuxppc_2_4_devel to be procise).

So does anyone know if kbuild-2.5 is likely to become mainstream in the 
near future ?
If so, is it going to be backported to 2.4 for all architectures ?
If not, is there anything in the vanilla kernel that will build from a a 
readonly repository ?

I hope kbuild-2.5 does have a future because so much hard work has gone 
into it.  It would be a shame to see all the effort wasted.

Many thanks,
Brendan Simon.




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Re: [kbuild-devel] kbuild status

2002-10-06 Thread Peter Samuelson


[Brendan J Simon]
 What is the status of kbuild with respect to getting into the kernel 
 proper ?
 Is it going to get into the linus kernel source tree ??

At this point it doesn't seem likely.  Of the rich feature set Keith
produced, Kai Germaschewski has managed to replicate the most
compelling features (though by no means all!) by incrementally tweaking
the Rules.make-based system, so Linus doesn't seem to see the urgency
of replacing the whole thing.

 I hope kbuild-2.5 does have a future because so much hard work has
 gone into it.  It would be a shame to see all the effort wasted.

Me too, but Linus has never made any secret of the fact that he doesn't
really care much about effort wasted, so long as he gets a kernel he is
happy with.  Call it what you will, we all know that's how this game is
played

Peter


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Re: [kbuild-devel] kbuild status

2002-10-06 Thread Brendan J Simon

Peter Samuelson wrote:

[Brendan J Simon]
  

What is the status of kbuild with respect to getting into the kernel 
proper ?
Is it going to get into the linus kernel source tree ??


At this point it doesn't seem likely.  Of the rich feature set Keith
produced, Kai Germaschewski has managed to replicate the most
compelling features (though by no means all!) by incrementally tweaking
the Rules.make-based system, so Linus doesn't seem to see the urgency
of replacing the whole thing.

Is there a site that documents the changes the Kai has made or is making ?
I'm mainly interested in building in seperate directories, building from 
readonly src directories and having a single makefile so that a complete 
dependency graph is generated.

I hope kbuild-2.5 does have a future because so much hard work has
gone into it.  It would be a shame to see all the effort wasted.


Me too, but Linus has never made any secret of the fact that he doesn't
really care much about effort wasted, so long as he gets a kernel he is
happy with.  Call it what you will, we all know that's how this game is
played
  

Doesn't sound promising.  I guess that's why Keith has been quiet on 
this list in recent times.  It sounds like politics has killed another 
great project.  Hopefully Kai can do a good job of getting some of great 
kbuild work into the kernel (in some form).

Cheers,
Brendan Simon.




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