Re: how to deal with NSFS sender verification
James G. Sack (jim) wrote: I think this (or something similar) may have been discussed before, but I can't find it just now. I just got an automated reply (direct to my email address) that was evidently triggered by my post to -kooler. Thank you for your recent email. My inbox is protected by Nodens Spam Filtering System, the leader in anti-spam technology. NSFS is withholding the message you sent due to its content or the server from which it was sent. Please click on the link below to release your email. It's a process which takes only a mouse-click. This will let me add you to my list of approved senders and receive your original email. NSFS sender verification: .. Evidently the -kooler subscriber in this case is yuiet.truong Clearly (to me, anyway), it is inappropriate configuration choice that sends this message to everybody posting to the monitored list. Is there some way to: 1) send a message to the subscriber, somehow getting past the confirmation process, telling him that his subscription is being disabled because of the trouble it causes. 1a) if possible [known], suggest to him how to resubscribe without re-incurring the disruptive behavior. 2) and then unsubscribing him For the record, I have added a T'bird filter routing mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to a junk-folder. I want those people immediately deleted from the mailing list. If they are too stupid to white list a mailing which they DELIBERATELY signed up for they don't need to be on our lists. Gus -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer
Sparky mail delivery delays to gmail
Sparky seems to be having trouble delivering e-mail to Google gmail. It has been taking almost half an hour to get messages delivered. A snip of my last message: From - Sun Jul 20 11:03:49 2008 X-Account-Key: account4 X-UIDL: GmailId11b419eba5f7268b X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: X-Mozilla-Keys: Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: by 10.142.132.13 with SMTP id f13cs209868wfd; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 10:57:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.134.21 with SMTP id h21mr2735441ybd.214.121657102; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 10:57:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from sparkplug.kernel-panic.org (sparkplug.kernel-panic.org [63.98.246.161]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id c29si260131elf.16.2008.07.20.10.57.31; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 10:57:46 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of [EMAIL PROTECTED] designates 63.98.246.161 as permitted sender) client-ip=63.98.246.161; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of [EMAIL PROTECTED] designates 63.98.246.161 as permitted sender) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from sparkplug.kernel-panic.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by sparkplug.kernel-panic.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3041197A8F; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 10:33:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from mail9.dslextreme.com (mail9.dslextreme.com [66.51.199.94]) by sparkplug.kernel-panic.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 270C697A49 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 10:33:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 16183 invoked from network); 20 Jul 2008 17:33:13 - Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.1.200]) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) by mail9.dslextreme.com with SMTP; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 10:33:13 -0700 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 10:33:12 -0700 From: Gus Wirth [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080501) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Main Discussion List for KPLUG [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is this a possible problem with Sparky? Gus PS I also didn't realize it leaked information about my internal network! -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer
Re: Sparky mail delivery delays to gmail
Gus Wirth wrote: Sparky seems to be having trouble delivering e-mail to Google gmail. It has been taking almost half an hour to get messages delivered. A snip of This seems to be only affected on the main list, this message went through everything in less than a minute. From - Sun Jul 20 11:28:21 2008 X-Account-Key: account4 X-UIDL: GmailId11b41b9e5e8e6eba X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: X-Mozilla-Keys: Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: by 10.142.132.13 with SMTP id f13cs210311wfd; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 11:27:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.49.1 with SMTP id w1mr2815458ybw.4.1216578446777; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 11:27:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from sparkplug.kernel-panic.org (sparkplug.kernel-panic.org [63.98.246.161]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id q26si33634ele.0.2008.07.20.11.27.23; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 11:27:26 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of [EMAIL PROTECTED] designates 63.98.246.161 as permitted sender) client-ip=63.98.246.161; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of [EMAIL PROTECTED] designates 63.98.246.161 as permitted sender) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from sparkplug.kernel-panic.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by sparkplug.kernel-panic.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55A7097B5B; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 11:27:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: kplug-steer@kernel-panic.org Delivered-To: kplug-steer@kernel-panic.org Received: from mail9.dslextreme.com (mail9.dslextreme.com [66.51.199.94]) by sparkplug.kernel-panic.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C32A297B55 for kplug-steer@kernel-panic.org; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 11:27:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 32686 invoked from network); 20 Jul 2008 18:27:19 - Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.1.200]) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) by mail9.dslextreme.com with SMTP; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 11:27:19 -0700 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 11:27:18 -0700 From: Gus Wirth [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080501) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: KPLUG Steering Committee kplug-steer@kernel-panic.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Sparky mail delivery delays to gmail Gus -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer
Re: long time no picnic
James G. Sack (jim) wrote: Beach and fire would not be critical for me. There is an area behind the Bahia Hotel on Mission Bay that has close parking, fire rings, and is usually uncrowded. I'd would really like a beer[1] with my picnic, but I understand that beer is no longer allowed on the beach -- is that correct? There is a bar in the hotel where one can get a beer. Beer on the beach is banned :( [1] I suppose we'd have to keep an eye on Gus.. see: http://www.kernel-panic.org/wiki/VirtualReality I can never remember where I park that thing. I'll have to ask Wonder Woman how she keeps track of her plane ;) Gus -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer
Re: KPLUG mailing lists question
Chris Louden wrote: I completely capable of filtering messages. I was just curious why KP did things differently then all of the other lug lists I participate in. Because we respect our members intelligence and resources. Gus -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer
KPLUG Meeting room for June 2008 meeting
I was originally told that there would be no meeting room available at SDCOE for the June 2008 meeting. I found a message from Ed Van Meter dated 04/01/2008 which seems to confirm that. However, I found a later message from Ed to Neil (bcc'd to me, not the KPLUG list) dated 04/18/2008 copied below: --- Ed Van Meter to Neil, Lan ***This E-Mail Supersedes My E-mail dated Tuesday 04/04/2008 and Hereby Re-issued as the Formal Details Relating to Subject.*** Monday April 14, 2008 - Hello Neil, Ref: (1) Your E-mail dated 04/01/2008 Requesting Schedule Update Status. .(2) Your E-mail dated 04/01/2008 10:22 PM Regarding Comment to my Initial E-mail dated 04/01/2008 on Subject. In response to your Ref (1) and (2) e-mails to my attention, I’m still handling your Room reservations at SDCOE. As a result, this confirms for the record schedule requirements to follow, for the applicable monthly Meeting Room schedule dates and specific Meeting Room numbers at the SDCOE facility. There was a mix up for the schedule related to your Groups for June 2008, which I was able to work out with SDCOE for room space. The detail date for each Group during June 2008 is reflected herein. These schedules cover dates from May 2008 through December 2008, for each Linux SIG meeting. The specific meeting room dates reserved with SDCOE are based upon their use from 6:30 to 9:00 PM. The breakout of your two Linux SIG's, with applicable dates and room numbers are listed as follows: .. **K-PLUG LINUX STUDY GROUP SIG --- .. 05/08/2008 .. Room 301 .. 06/05/2008 .. Annex 'C' .. 07/03/2008 .. Room 301 .. 08/07/2008 .. Room 301 .. 09/04/2008 .. Annex ‘C’ .. 10/02/2008Room 301 .. 11/06/2008 .. Annex ‘C’ .. 12/04/2008Room 301 **KERNEL-PANIC LINUX USER GROUP SIG --- .. 05/08/2008 ..Rooms 401 402 .. 06/12/2008 ..Only Room 402 .. 07/10/2008 Rooms 401 402 .. 08/14/2008. Rooms 401 402 .. 09/11/2008.. Rooms 401 402 .. 10/09/2008 Annex ‘C” .. 11/13/2008 Annex ‘C” .. 12/11/2008 Annex ‘C” .. Again, I state for the RECORD no LINUX User Group SIG shall use a Room if they are not scheduled to use a specific room, unless approved by SDCOE through my coordination. Your compliance with this rule is mandatory. This confirms schedules shown above with SDCOE. Should there be any change by SDCOE to that noted, as we move through these months, only I will advise you. [snip] I trust this scheduling input will assist your planning needs. Let me know if question or I can be of further assistance. My contact is via phone # 858-277-5098 and if line is busy or I'm not available please leave message on same number (PacBell Msg Center). In addition, direct any e-mails to my attention only to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for action or info. -THANK YOU! Sincerely, Ed Van Meter - Computer Technology Instructor/Teacher National City Adult School Center END- So it does look like we have a room for June after all. I had asked Lan to see if he could get a room at the UCSD Extension in Mission Valley, but if this is confirmed we won't need it. Gus -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer
SDCS Elections
Are there supposed to be SDCS Elections held tonight? I haven't seen any mention on the list or the web site. Given the low turnouts we've had lately, I'm concerned we won't have a quorum. Or was this something that happened while I was gone in April? Gus -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer
Re: SDCS Elections
Lan Barnes wrote: On Thu, May 8, 2008 3:51 pm, Andrew Lentvorski wrote: Lan Barnes wrote: Yes. I sent out a message to be cascaded by sig prezes. On Thu, May 8, 2008 10:18 am, Gus Wirth wrote: Are there supposed to be SDCS Elections held tonight? I haven't seen any mention on the list or the web site. Given the low turnouts we've had lately, I'm concerned we won't have a quorum. Or was this something that Um, yes, *what*. Yes, we already had them, or yes, they are tonight. And, if they are tonight, where are they? -a Have you seriously not seen the emails? There are no e-mails. I've searched both with Google and my local archives of the KPLUG lists and there have been NO mention of the SDCS elections tonight until just a short while ago when Neil posted a message to the Main and Newbie lists. I did see the message where Joshua said he wasn't running for President but there were no dates associated with that. If there have been e-mails to the list, could you please provide a link/reference? Gus -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer
502 Proxy Error on KPLUG server
I'm trying to access the KPLUG web site to get the schedule but I'm getting a 502 Proxy error: Proxy Error The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server. The proxy server could not handle the request GET /. Reason: Error reading from remote server Apache/2.0.54 (Debian GNU/Linux) PHP/4.3.10-21 Server at www.kernel-panic.org Port 80 Can someone investigate and fix? Gus -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer
Re: Linux InstallFests in March
James G. Sack (jim) wrote: [snip] Probably should post an announcement. Might be nice to say don't forget April (and maybe give the topic -- was Gus still on-deck for some audio [pulse-?] stuff?) I won't be around in April. I could do something for May, like how I made the kiosk for That Technical Bookstore. Gus -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer
Re: January Meeting.
Lan Barnes wrote: On Fri, January 4, 2008 3:51 pm, Neil Schneider wrote: Less than a week to our first meeting of 2008 and no one has stepped forward to offer a presentation. I had an idea, and wonder what the steering committee thinks. What if we made our January 10th meeting a swap meet? KPLUG has never had one, but people are bringing stuff to meetings all the time. What if everyone brought their stuff they wanted to get rid of to one meeting? Lay it out, if someone wants it they can have it, or maybe barter for something they have. No money! Just good old fashion horse trading! And if you can't convince someone else to take it off your hands, then you must take it home! Give everybody a chance to clean closets and maybe get some new junk for themselves. :-) I think it's a GREAT idea ... if and only if there is a large trash can available for all the stuff no one wants. Illegal under California law because it is e-waste and must be disposed of properly. I could do a presentation on Morphix, and how I used Morphix Kiosk to make a no-moving-parts (electrons don't count) kiosk for That Technical Bookstore where we hold Installfests. Gus -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer
Re: www.kernel-panic.org is EXTREMELY sluggish again
Joshua Penix wrote: On Dec 19, 2007, at 2:11 PM, Gregory K. Ruiz-Ade wrote: Would it be possible to allocate some more memory to the VM without breaking anything? I realize it would require a bounce of the image. No. I already tried this. :) No matter how much I assign it in Xen, it refuses to see more than ~900MB. I have no clue why. The kernel probably doesn't have HIMEM enabled. I have 1GB RAM in my system. From my own running kernel, extracted from dmesg: [snip] BIOS-provided physical RAM map: BIOS-e820: - 0009f800 (usable) BIOS-e820: 0009f800 - 000a (reserved) BIOS-e820: 000f - 0010 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 0010 - 3fff (usable) BIOS-e820: 3fff - 3fff3000 (ACPI NVS) BIOS-e820: 3fff3000 - 4000 (ACPI data) BIOS-e820: fec0 - fec01000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: fee0 - fee01000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: - 0001 (reserved) 127MB HIGHMEM available. 896MB LOWMEM available. found SMP MP-table at 000f5520 [snip] It looks like you are restricted to the LOWMEM limit. Gus -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer
Re: Meeting topic ideas
Neil Schneider wrote: gossamer axe wrote: On Dec 12, 2007 10:13 PM, Neil Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know this is late, but are you prepared to make this presentation Thursday night? Yes, I've been slowly working on it for the last 3 weeks. I hope Lan shows up too...I don't know if I have enough for 2 hours. But, I'll be there tonight. I think Lan is going to bail. You'll be the only presenter. See you tonight, thanks. I might be able to do a quick presentation on Pulse Audio http://www.pulseaudio.org, which is the new sound server introduced in Fedora 8 that will probably become the default sound server for all Linux distributions. Depends on if I can get my laptop to display on the CRT with the xorg radeon driver. Gus -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer
Re: Nothing much to show on Thursday
James G. Sack (jim) wrote: Lan Barnes wrote: Just a warning that I haven't prepared anything for the Kplug meeting. I was going to show a little program I wrote (would have written, actually) to manage my son's mp3 player, but I've only written a couple of low level routines, and may not finish it. Spoiler alert: We're buying him an iPod for xmas, and I'm highly demotivated to go on with a program that'll never be used. Just a thought: Could you maybe shift the scope and attention to a smaller topic, something you could just lecture on -- maybe: how I organize my video files or customizing the video database, or something like that? If Lan isn't going to have anything, do we need another presenter? Is Judy's presentation over an hour? Gus -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer
Re: Topic for October Meeting
James G. Sack (jim) wrote: Neil Schneider wrote: gossamer axe wrote: Was wondering if there was a concrete topic for the October 11th Meeting? I checked the website and it hasn't been updated since May. Wouldn't be a bad idea to update the website for meeting topics and dates. It would be a great idea, if we had a volunteer to do a presentation. So far no one has stepped up to volunteer. I'm a little slow asking, so it's partly my fault. Anybody have something they want to present for the meeting? There was a sizable expression of interest in gaming (and graphics generally), including programming and/or user-oriented topics. Is there someone who can put together _anything_ in these areas? Even short presentations or demos would probably be well-received. Anyone who knows someone with knowledge/experience in these areas, maybe you could forward them this request and encourage them to step up. When I gave my last presentation on the X Window System I never finished up talking about dealing with proprietary graphics drivers, in particular those from nVidia and ATI. I could finish that up. I think it would probably take up at least an hour and I can show how I backported an ATI driver. That part is pretty technical but the rest isn't. This came up as topic at the Installfest at That Technical Bookstore this weekend. Then maybe we could have a Halloween party! Gus -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer
Re: June schedule
Carl Lowenstein wrote: [snip] Well, I know how to do some of the things in the list above, but not all. Not sure how one would demo without schlepping a large printer to the meeting. I have a HP Laserjet 4ML that is reasonably portable that I could bring to the meeting. It does Postscript Level 2. Gus -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer
Re: Helge has a gripe AND a point
Gregory K. Ruiz-Ade wrote: The mailing list are a public forum. Let that sink in for a moment. As such, Helge should have been more careful, and not (presumably) put an email address in the Subject: header of an email sent to a mailing list. I can't seem to find the email in question. When was it sent? What was the Message-ID? We DO NOT CONTROL who, outside of KPLUG's control, has set up or configured archives of our lists. Therefor, the best we can do is delete this person's email from our own archives. However, if Google's already snatched it, there's nothing we can do until it expires from Google's cache. [snip] It looks like jhriv is the one who put the e-mail address in the Subject line of the originating message, looking back through the thread. Although you are correct in that the lists are a public forum, it is evident that we do try to do some minimal obfuscation to protect e-mail addresses. Evidently, the list manager doesn't look in the subject line since that's not an obvious place to look. However, I don't think that retroactively going back and changing things is a good idea. The possibility of hosing history outweighs any insignificant advantage to Helge. If she is on some spammer's list then I feel her pain, but deleting our archives isn't going to remove her from their lists. I wonder if she puts as much effort into tracking down the bad guys. Gus -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer
Re: KVM Switch/VM on Linux: Presentation to SDPCUG
Lan Barnes wrote: Dave Tooley, VP of SDCS and a luminary in SDPCUG, told me they had a Limspere presentation that got their members thinking. Most of them want a box/OS that just works. They don't want to geek out on it. But they also get tired of the M$ two-step as demonstrated by version churning ... especially Vista. Anyway, Dave said many of them would be interested in a non-proselitizing (sp?) presentation on KVM switch HW and also on VM OSs, so they could have something like Linspere on the same system as their M$ OS. Anyone interested in making such a presentation? Not sure why they need a presentation on hardware KVM switches. I did a presentation to the main SDCS meeting a few years ago on VMware. I could do it again. Maybe instead of hardware KVM I could cover things like VNC and Synergy which can substitute for a KVM. So I'll volunteer. When do they want the presentation? Gus -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer
Re: Public notification: was Re: Server quote
Stewart Stremler wrote: [snip] folders for website members. Resource demands seem to have have grown as folders for website members. Resource demands have have grown as Too many haves. Gus -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer
Re: Public notification: was Re: Server quote
James G. Sack (jim) wrote: Neil Schneider wrote: ..It probably would be a good thing to summarize the discussion and reasoning for our choice. Perhaps you should post it here for review and comment, before posting it to the main list... Here's my first try at composing an announcement that could be posted to the main list, sometime before the next meeting. Presumably the sooner the better -- but let's have a critique first. - - - Sparkplug Version III is Coming For some time now, we have noticed that our kernel-panel server has been ^ic Typo correction. View in a fixed width font. Gus -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer
Re: Public notification: was Re: Server quote
James G. Sack (jim) wrote: [snip] I also think a vote is a _not_ required -- and, in fact, undesirable procedure in informal settings such as our general meetings. [snip] I heartily agree. There are only three positions in KPLUG that are official: President (Neil), Treasurer (George), and Membership (Gus). There is no requirement from the viewpoint of SDCS for anything else. The steering committee (for lack of a better term for this list) forms the equivalent of a board of directors. One of the main purposes of a board of directors is to do budgeting. This expenditure falls within that realm. I don't have the list of who is subscribed to kplug-steer so that I can compare it to the actual membership list to see if they should be allowed to vote, so I'm not going to go there. But since we don't have any written rules for KPLUG, the only person that actually has any authority is Neil. So if anyone complains about the decision, we can blame it all on Neil ;) More seriously, I think the membership knows who we are, either personally or through the lists and will trust our judgment on this, especially when we can refer them to the debate on the list which exposes our concerns in public and in writing rather than behind closed doors. Gus -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer
Uploading presentation outline and slides
How would I go about uploading my presentation outline and slides from last night to the KPLUG web site? Is that something that should go in the wiki or some other mechanism? Right now the outline and slides are in OpenOffice format but I can export them as something that will work with HTML. Gus -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer
Re: January Meeting Topic
Neil Schneider wrote: [snip] markw wrote: Got email back, he's almost ready. Not quite where he wants it though. This sounds like it's going to be bitchin', as he's setting up a full blown phone system for people to play with. I think we should schedule the asterisk presentation for February 8th, 2007. Then I take it that the January meeting is still undecided. In that case I'll take it and do a presentation on X: Everything you wanted to know about X but didn't know what to ask I'll give you a bit of a writeup later. Gus -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer
KPLUG 2007 Meeting room schedule?
Is there a schedule for the meeting rooms in 2007? I haven't seen anything come out yet unless I missed it. Our first LPSG meeting for the year is supposed to be this Thursday, 4 Jan. Gus -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer
Re: January Meeting Topic
John H. Robinson, IV wrote: Wow, what a horrible subject line. Sorry about that. At least I remembered to take out the In-Reply-To: header. -john John H. Robinson, IV wrote: Steerage, Do we have a topic for January? If so, is it on the website? (I never look at the website . . .) I would like to have a key-signing, and CAcert signing (I am a CAcert Assurer, so I can validate other people). This could tie in with an openssl/gnupg presentation, or it could be a stand-alone event. There was a guy at the last meeting (can't remember his name) that was offering to do a presentation on Asterix. He talked to Neil, and I talked to him a little bit, but I don't think he's going to be ready despite his enthusiasm. Perhaps Neil has his contact information. If that doesn't work out, I would be willing to do a presentation on X. For some reason I seem to get all the X problems at the Installfests, so maybe I could explain how it basically works and give some tricks like having multiple layouts. There is also Michael O'Keefe who was working on a multi-head project (which is now thin client). Gus -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer
Re: Replacement KPLUG server
John H. Robinson, IV wrote: Neil Schneider wrote: I'm interested in hearing more discussion about this. Personally, I like the idea of our club maintaining our own server. It gives us a flexibility in doing what we want to do, experimental or community-wise. The Xen and Xen-type hosting services are nice, as you get your own root, but it can get expensive per month for the level of service (bandwidth, storage and CPU) that we currently enjoy. I agree that a 1U would be fine, with a couple 150G drives. We can even RAID-1 them, for redundancy and still have copious amounts of space. I know a local vendor that we can get a 1U with 2x150GB SATA drives, SATA RAID controller, 2x XEON 2.8 (or is it 3.0?) GHz, with rails and 400 W power suppy for about 3,200$. More complete details available if desired. Looking in my latest issue of ComputorEdge, I see that SDcom http://www.sdcom.com has a 1U server with: Intel Core2 Duo E6600 2.4GHz 1GB DDR2 667 RAM 250GB SATA II hard drive Built-in Video, Audio, USB 1 Gigabit LAN Floppy DVD-ROM Price: $1055 Expand storage to 2x 250GB RAID Price: $1320 There are some other variations on this theme as well. It looks like you can get a really decent server for under $2000. So this is bracketing the expense. As Andrew already pointed out, if we want to implement full virtualization then we need to go with the newer chip. My preference lies that way also because it will handle future developments better. See http://www.heise.de/english/newsticker/news/82344/from/rss09 for an article on KVM (Kernel Virtual Machine) that will make its appearance in the 2.6.20 kernel. Of course we can wait a few more months to see what AMD will release. Apparently AMD is going to provide the ability to do hardware assisted Nested Paging. From a VMware article at http://www.techworld.com/opsys/features/index.cfm?featureid=2957 quote He also showed a demonstration of a future AMD CPU feature, Nested Paging. This technology moves the mapping of virtual machine memory page tables to physical memory into the CPU hardware. Rosenblum demonstrated an extreme example of how applications could be accelerated -- AMD's Margaret Lewis said that acceleration of memory-intensive tasks such as compilation is likely to be around 43 per cent. Lewis said that this technology, first announced in August, would be available in 2007. /quote Gus -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer
KPLUG bank account
KPLUG now has an official bank account using the SDCS Federal Taxpayer Identifier. George Geller has assumed the duties of treasurer. I have turned over a check for $800 to George for the cash from the raffle and membership (pretty much the same thing because of the raffle tickets for joining incentive). I should have a check for another $100 or so next month. I think it's probably easier on George if I handle the cash and convert it to a check for him. Rich Ernst still has to transfer the money from his account, which I think is a few thousand. Gus -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer
Replacement KPLUG server
There was some discussion at the December meeting about replacing the existing KPLUG server. I can't remember who got the last one, I think Joshua? Anyway, we have the funds to get a new one so I say Neil delegates this to whoever wants to volunteer and we go ahead and do it. How much capability do we need? That will determine the price. Gus -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer
Re: InstallFest today
Carl Lowenstein wrote: On 12/16/06, Neil Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carl Lowenstein wrote: In case you forgot, there is an Linux InstallFest here at the National City Adult Center today. Three people are here to help you, nobody has yet showed up to be helped. Sorry I can't be there today. Maybe we should discuss cutting back on the number of Installfests we have in the new year, or come up with a strategy to reinvigorate them. By about 10:30 or 11:00 this was a very vigorous InstallFest. Max about 10 people present for installation and problem solving. By 3:00 it had tapered off to 4 or 5 and we had to start easing them out. Quite a few problems actually got solved. carl and I were able solve a particularly tough problem involving Puppy Linux and an unsupported wireless ethernet PCMCIA card (Fry's special Aironet). We used ndiswrapper to use a M$ Windows ndis driver. Some of the problems in getting this to work were: The M$ Windows driver provided on the CDROM for the PCMCIA card did not work. Searching the ndiswrapper site on Sourceforge showed that 3com provided a driver. Unfortunately, the bundled software was in a self-extracting windows executable. I solved that problem by downloading the file and extracting the files by running it with WINE on my laptop. The files were transferred using a USB flash drive (thanks Jim Sack!). For some reason the ndiswrapper kernel module wouldn't load on bootup. After extensive reading of the Puppy Linux startup scripts, it turns out that the script that loads network modules is hard coded to load only the first two modules listed in the configuration file. Guess where the ndiswrapper module was listed? So, moving the module from spot three to spot one fixed the problem. This laptop setup was actually a continuation of an install and setup that had started at That Technical Bookstore about two weeks earlier. I think it's finally finished but it needs testing at the guy's house to ensure it works with the assigned ESSID and WEP key. Maybe I should create a wiki page titled KPLUG Success Stories. Gus -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer
Dec meeting [was: Re: InstallFest]
Neil Schneider wrote: No one has volunteered yet to do presentation(s) for December, and I haven't thought about the Installfest. Thanks for the reminder. Anyone want to volunteer for a presentation? The meeting is two weeks from tommorrow. Should be plenty of time to prepare. [snip] What happened to Michael O'Keefe and the Multi-Seat Linux running VMWare? Has his offer been withdrawn? Gus -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer
KPLUG Treasurer and bank account status
1) Has the treasurer fully taken over the KPLUG accounts yet? 2) Does KPLUG have an account to which I can deposit money? I have been holding onto a considerable quantity of cash from the raffle that I would like to deposit. Barring that, I'm going to count it all up and deposit it in my own account and write an IOU to KPLUG so you'll get a check from me whenever the account actually does open. I dislike having that much cash sitting around. Gus -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer
Re: MultiSeat Linux (running vmware server)
Carl Lowenstein wrote: On 10/26/06, Gus Wirth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael O'Keefe wrote: At my bike shop, I'm currently setting up a multi-seat Linux system, running vmware-server for concurrent Windows I've got 2 NVidia cards up, and am looking to plug in another 3 Matrox cards (I only have PCIe slots left, and they're about the only ones to make PCIe 1x cards) to give me 5 seats. Think this might make an interesting presentation when I'm done ? 3 seats are for Point of Sale, and 2 seats are for displaying motorcycle videos, but when the salespeeople need to show the customer a part or something, instead of bringing them around behind the counter, they just switch the KVM to feed from an SVGA splitter so it replicates their screen onto the other one. Let me display my lack of knowledge of PC hardware: What is the hardware method of connecting more than one keyboard to a PC? [snip] USB Gus -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer
Re: Behavior of kplug-announce
Stewart Stremler wrote: begin quoting Gregory K. Ruiz-Ade as of Tue, Apr 11, 2006 at 12:01:18PM -0700: On Apr 10, 2006, at 8:52 PM, Carl Lowenstein wrote: It would be nice to receive announcements on only one list. Not four times if you happen to be subscribed to all of them. That's the only downside I see to blind automatic propagation. The only way I see to do that is to periodically synchronize the membership of the -announce list with the sum contents of the other lists. I'm not sure mailman was designed to handle such a cascading membership logic (though it would be very nice). Last time we did that, I got so pissed off that I unsubscribed from announce entirely. I *strongly* recommend against such an approach. Besides, auto-subscribing like that puts us firmly on the side of the spammers. The only right way to put someone on a mailing list is the double-opt-in. Opt-out lists are fundamentally wrong. If people want to subscribe to an announce list, let 'em subscribe to an announce list. If not enough people subscribe to it, well, then there obviously isn't enough interest to make it worthwhile, and the idea should be dropped, no matter how appealing it may be to a few. I've gone through the kplug-announce archives and found that in the last year and a half there have been a total of 33 messages sent [1] with a maximum of 4 messages in one month. Most of the messages deal with either the main meeting or the installfest (Linux Lab). The announce list is moderated with a limited number of posters. About half the posts are from me concerning either the main meeting or the installlfest. So what you are saying is that you would rather get three identical separate e-mails from me, one each on kplug-newbie, kplug-list, and kplug-lpsg, rather than a single message from kplug-announce. You seem to have an abnormally low threshold for pain. And possibly a faulty memory as well. Gus [1] http://www.kernel-panic.org/pipermail/kplug-announce/ Here is the raw data in the form of month, number of messages: 2004 Aug 4 Sep 0 Oct 1 Nov 2 Dec 0 2005 Jan 3 Feb 0 Mar 0 Apr 4 May 2 Jun 2 Jul 1 Aug 0 Sep 2 Oct 2 Nov 4 Dec 1 2006 Jan 0 Feb 2 Mar 3 Apr 0 -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer
Re: Upcoming SDCS elections
Lan Barnes wrote: I'd like to take maybe 10 minutes at the start of Thursday's KPLUG meeting to discuss the upcoming SDCS elections with the KPLUG membership. Is Gus the current moderator? OK, Gus? I think Jim Sack is the moderator for this month. I'm just doing the membership and raffle. Gus -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer
Behavior of kplug-announce
What is the current behavior of kplug-announce? I've been working under the assumption that the announce list merges the e-mail addresses for people subscribed to the other lists so that someone signed up for say, kplug-newbie would also get a message sent to kplug-announce. If that is not true then I have been missing a large part of the target audience with my announce messages. For example, I want to send out a message about the upcoming meeting featuring rpath. What should I do to make sure that all KPLUGers get the announce messages? Gus -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer
Re: Desktop Linux Summit -- User Group Admission
James G. Sack (jim) wrote: The Desktop Linux Summit (San Diego, Apr. 24-25) advance registration page at.. http://www.desktoplinuxsummit.com/register.php ..talks about User Group Member Full Conference Pass $25 Proof of User Group membership required $25 seems better than $75 earlybird (or $100 normal) Does our membership chairman (or anyone) know anything about above-mentioned proof? I will call them and check what they want for proof and get back to you. Gus Wirth KPLUG Membership Chairman -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer
Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Subject Line Tag]
At 11:27 11/29/2005 -0800, Tracy R Reed wrote: Gus Wirth wrote: Don't do it. The tagging of messages in the header as spam is a function of Whoah...are we talking about tagging messages as spam or merely putting a tag in the subject to identify the mailing list such as [newbie] or [kooler]? I thought we were discussing the latter. I would agree that we don't want to be doing spam filtering. The problem the guy was having was that messages from the mailing list were sometimes being flagged as spam. He wanted us to mangle the subject line so that the spam filter at his ISP would let the messages through instead of sequestering them. The problem is in the spam filter at the ISP. All the guy needs to do is filter on the To: line or the List-Id: line and look for kernel-panic and white-list those e-mails. I don't thing we should do any mangling when there is no problem. Gus -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer
Re: video projector at SDCOE
At 20:45 11/28/2005 -0800, Rich Ernst wrote: Absotively! How do we find out if that is the problem, or not? And if so, what bulb to purchase? Carl Lowenstein wrote: Ifthe video projector in SDCOE 401-402 doesn't work because it needs a new light bulb, could KPLUG buy one out of our reasonably ample treasury? This would be a public service that would also benefit KPLUG members. Last Thursday (1 Dec '05) I stopped by Room 401 with George and checked out the projector. The projector IS WORKING. Now whether it is still working I don't know but the odds are in our favor. If not, George left his monitor there just in case. Gus -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer
Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Subject Line Tag]
At 21:16 11/28/2005 -0800, John H. Robinson, IV wrote: Thoughts? I am not averse to subject line tags for -newbie. The big issue is that the mail server is forcing some messages into spam, and the filtering is not sufficient to prevent this. Since it is -newbie, I am far more likely to assist with the use of tags. The other lists I would be more averse to. Charles even said that the lack of tags would not stop the world or anything. I want an idea of consensus before I make any changes like this. -john Don't do it. The tagging of messages in the header as spam is a function of the ISP. I don't have his original message to check out his mail client, but the reference to checking the web site vs filtered correctly on my computer indicates this is a problem with configuration on his end, probably the order in which filters are applied. He should fix that rather than introducing additional noise into the subject line. Gus - Forwarded message from Charles R. Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Hopefully the person in charge of the list will see this I was wondering if there's a possiblity of placing a tag in the subject line (like most lists) so that the messages can be readily seen when checking out the Spam folder? The messages are filtered correctly on my computer, but I do check the spam folder on the website and go through it as best I can since there's usually a LOT of spam there. I just so happen to notice one message today, right before it disappeared! :-( (once you hit the delete key, it's gone forever) I don't know all the names of subscribers here so there's nothing else that would ordinarily catch my eye. A subject tag would help greatly. ;-) I can only imagine how many messages I *didn't* get. :-( Thank You! For what is a man, what has he got? If not himself, then he has naught To say the things he truly feels and not the words of one who kneels -- KPLUG-Newbie@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-newbie - End forwarded message - -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer
Re: proposal for Lessig related Thurs nite talk...comments welcome
At 15:40 05/16/2005 -0700, John H. Robinson, IV wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to propose to summarize main points of Lessig's Free Culture book in an upcoming KPLUG meeting sometime. Do you think people would be interested? That's is kinda questionable. If it were part of something else, like a MythTV demonstration it would probably work. As a stand-alone thing, I'm less certain. A lot of us are idealistic, but I suspect even more of us are pragmatic ``get it done'' kinda people. I'm playing with MythTV now, in the form of KnoppMyth. I might be ready to do a demo in September or October. Perhaps we could do a combined presentation. Gus -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer
Re: SDCS bylaws
At 15:30 05/11/2005 -0700, Joshua Penix wrote: On May 11, 2005, at 11:15 AM, Gus Wirth wrote: At 23:56 05/10/2005 -0700, Joshua Penix wrote: [snip] And I don't see where they have contempt for the other SIGs. You didn't attend the SDMUG meeting where they voted to seced. No, you're right, and that's where I hear you had to walk out of the room. So obviously it got bad, but was the contempt toward SDCS or was it toward other SIGs? The message was, if you weren't part of SDMUG you were scum and they would have nothing to do with you. Gus -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer
Re: Pandora repairs
At 12:02 05/12/2005 -0700, Gregory K. Ruiz-Ade wrote: On Thursday 12 May 2005 11:48 am, Michael O'Keefe wrote: Gus Wirth wrote: I still need to burn a couple CDROMs to test that part, but at least I didn't kill it with the changes :) Are you going to take the cost of the repairs out of the SDMUG treasury? I dunno, but it sure feels tempting to rebuild one of my G3 PowerMacs with YDL, an 80GB drive and a burner and offer it up as a replacement for Pandora, just to thumb my nose at SDMUG. I GOT YER MAC RIGHT HEYAH! Except Pandora has a 250GB drive that's over half full already and has two burners. We were thinking about getting a DVD burner for it, and I know Rich was looking at a dedicated duplicator. Although I do like the re-purposing (sp?) of old hardware. Gus Gus -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer
Re: SDCS bylaws
At 18:10 05/10/2005 -0700, Neil Schneider wrote: Stewart Stremler said: begin quoting John H. Robinson, IV as of Tue, May 10, 2005 at 02:50:30PM -0700: [snip] Now, if elections are postponed until after the SDMUG separation, then things get interesting. As Neil pointed out, board members must remain members of a SDCS. There are a few ways to be an SDCS member. One is regular membership, the other is via membership via a SIG. I would tend to read that everyone is a member via a SIG, unless dues were paid directly to the SDCS. There are also lifetime, honourary, and corporate members. These I do not think apply to the current set of SDCS Board members. Paying the local SIG for a year membership in SDCS and then losing that membership when the SIG leaves would seem to be a bad thing to do... either prorate the membership and issue a refund, or leave 'em be as members until the membership expires. IMNSHO SDMUG has gotten all the special breaks they deserve. A little history lesson is in order. SDMUG was given special dispensation, allowing them to pay only $6 per member, from the $30 they collected, The actual amount collected is $36 per member. $6 goes to the SDCS treasury. The remaining $30 goes to SDMUG. to SDCS. This was by a special amendment to the SDCS bylaws. SDMUG was allowed to use the remaining $24 per member to publish their MAC magazine. SDCS had trouble even collecting the $6 per member from SDMUG. Then SDMUG stopped publishing their magazine, because the member who was producing it quit. Suddenly SDMUG's treasury ballooned, since they were no longer spending large sums to produce a slick covered MAC magazine. By rights, they should have started paying SDCS dues of $30/year like all the other SIG members did. Which brings up the interesting point. If they are collecting that much money and not spending it on the membership or on other non-profit activities, they are no longer non-profit as defined by the law. A rule of thumb is that you can get away with about 10% over your budget without incurring risk of loss of your non-profit status. Usual disclaimer IANAL or a tax advisor. Which might also makes previous boards liable, because they never did anything about it either. [snip] Gus Time for a KPLUG party Wirth -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer
Re: SDCS bylaws
At 23:56 05/10/2005 -0700, Joshua Penix wrote: [snip] And I don't see where they have contempt for the other SIGs. You didn't attend the SDMUG meeting where they voted to seced. Gus -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer
Pandora for Installfest
Last I recall, Rich Ernst had Pandora. Is Pandora going to be at the Linux Lab, ne Installfest? If not, I plan on attending and can bring it if we can arrange for me to pick up Pandora today. Gus -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer
Re: Installfest Saturday is ON????
This message moved from kplug-newbie At 10:39 04/14/2005 -0700, Neil Schneider wrote: Gus Wirth said: At 09:25 04/14/2005 -0700, Neil Schneider wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I see the notification on the kplug website that we are having our own installfest this Saturday, the 16th at the national city adult school. It this for real, and/or all the contacts and permissions and arrangements have been made ok? Yes You should put out an announcement on the main list or kplug-announce also to let everyone know. By the way, the new web site looks great. I'll leave that to someone who's announce account works. The information is on the web site. Last time I tried sending to announce nothing came out. Anyone know why the announce list isn't working? I'll send the message if I'm set up for it. I think Greg was the last one to say he knew something about the lists. Gus -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer
Re: list moderation / kplug server/services management
At 12:28 04/14/2005 -0700, Gregory K. Ruiz-Ade wrote: [snip] Basically, if we created the position of KPLUG SysAdmin, I'd be happy to fill it, barring any other members' objections, since I tend to hear about all the niggling kplug sysadminny problems anyway. :) Thoughts? You have my vote. Gus -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer
Re: Volunteer to present to the general meeting, May
At 14:34 03/28/2005 -0800, Lan Barnes wrote: On Mon, Mar 28, 2005 at 12:41:08PM -0800, David M. Cook wrote: On Sun, Mar 27, 2005 at 09:07:51AM -0800, Lan Barnes wrote: I am _such_ a dunce! I let myself be satisfied when a program works instead of settling down for the hard work of pertification. After all, the only important thing is that we all look ma'velous! Found this link on improving the look of tcl/tk: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/tkinter-discuss/2004-March/10.html This points to a tcl file that I'm not sure how to use, but it may make sense to a tcl programmer. http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Mail/Message/Attachments/Tcl-core/404F312E. [EMAIL PROTECTED]/as_style.tcl Thanks, that's a nice link. The file in question is the base widget style sheet that all widgets inherit from. If you program takes the time to set up a better set of preferences that the ancient ones that come by default (I imagine for backward compatability), then all subsequent widgete will have a family look and behavior. I imagine that this would be true in any scripting language (Python, perl) that has adapted the Tk for its use, although some of the more recent ones may have updated the defaults. There are so many possible switches for widgets that even the documentation rarely carries them all. Lan, Thanks fo doing this. Neil has me about tapped out as far as ready-to-go lectures. I don't know if you will cover this or not, but I'm interested in how to either add 3rd-party widgets or create new widgets for the UI part. After seeing your presentation using VisualTCL I was intrigued but I wanted some different widgets and couldn't figure out out to add/create them. I have the same problem working with any of the GUI designers like Glade that just wrap one of the GUI toolkits like GTK or QT. Gus -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer
Announce list
Is the kplug-announce list turned off? I sent a message out about the Installfest at thattechnicalbookstore a while ago and I haven't seen it come through yet. Gus -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer
Re: Announce list
At 15:12 03/11/2005 -0800, Joshua Penix wrote: On Mar 11, 2005, at 12:18 PM, Gus Wirth wrote: Is the kplug-announce list turned off? I sent a message out about the Installfest at thattechnicalbookstore a while ago and I haven't seen it come through yet. It's not turned off, just moderated. I turned off your mod flag so you should be able to post freely there now. Neil and jhriv's are also off. Is there anyone else who should have access to post to Announce? Thanks. This makes sense, I just didn't realize that it had been implemented. You could add Carl Lowenstein to the list. Lan Barnes also. I'm not sure who else that's a regular would want to do announcements. Gus -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer
Re: [Fwd: SDCS General Elections]
At 21:59 03/09/2005 -0800, Lan Barnes wrote: [snip] Are we all members now who paid Rich our $whatever? Yes. I have 32 people listed eligible to vote. Gus -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer
