Re: [libreoffice-l10n] UI 4.4 error in English term fuchsia
That's good. Thank you. Regards Donaldo On 26/11/14 14:49, Adolfo Jayme Barrientos wrote: 2014-11-25 19:38 GMT-06:00 Donald donr2...@clear.net.nz: #. kidC6 #: smres.src msgctxt smres.src\n STR_FUCHSIA\n string.text msgid funchsia msgstr should be: msgid fuchsia This one was fixed by Stanislav: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=772befa08f02b08da1ab493896a0744bc73781c7 Adolfo -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Fwd: Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: Error in English string?
Hi, Should have gone to the list, sorry Message transféré Sujet : Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: Error in English string? Date : Wed, 26 Nov 2014 09:46:32 +0100 De : Sophie gautier.sop...@gmail.com Pour : Jesper Hertel jesper.her...@gmail.com Hi Jesper Le 26/11/2014 01:16, Jesper Hertel a écrit : Okay, so there are actually *19 places *where these mysterious chart documents are mentioned: https://translations.documentfoundation.org/da/libo_help/translate/#search=hart%20documentsfields=sourcesoptions=exact (I search for exact phrase because it is faster, so I left out the c/C in chart in the search). I wonder what is right. I just never heard of chart documents, and I cannot find any in LibreOffice 4.4 when I look around. Under File | New… I cannot create a new Chart document…? Jesper 2014-11-26 1:09 GMT+01:00 Jesper Hertel jesper.her...@gmail.com: There is an English string that I find strange in LibreOffice 4.4: https://translations.documentfoundation.org/da/libo_help/translate/#search=Transparsfields=source,targetsoptions=exactunit=28584506 Kontekst: 00040502.xhp par_id3151117 143 help.text Kommentarer: CssFG The text for this string says Choose emphFormat - Chart Wall - Transparency/emph tab (chart *documents*) Shouldn't that be: Choose emphFormat - Chart Wall - Transparency/emph tab (chart *objects*)? As far as I know, there are no chart documents in LibreOffice, but there are chart objects, and the text does apply to chart objects. There is a chart file format .odc which is currently not in use in LibreOffice but it exists in ODF, see here: https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/XML_File_Formats Kind regards Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org Tel:+33683901545 Co-founder - Release coordinator The Document Foundation -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] KeyID build
Hi Jesper, Le 25/11/2014 23:56, Jesper Hertel a écrit : How come the translations aren't updated between releases? Or does that only apply to the KeyID builds? In the normal builds, I think it would be nice to see the translation progress being included in the alpha and beta builds so we translators can test our translations. But maybe that is already happening; I am new here, so bear with me! We begin the translation at the beta stage and the string freeze is happening at the RC stage. Kind regards Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org Tel:+33683901545 Co-founder - Release coordinator The Document Foundation -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: Error in English string?
Hi :) Also in this string it might make more sense if there is a the. Choose tab is not great, Choose the tab or Choose a tab is better. Choose emphFormat - Chart Wall - Transparency/emph tab would be better as Choose the emphFormat - Chart Wall - Transparency/emph tab Regards from Tom :) On 26 November 2014 at 08:49, Sophie gautier.sop...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Should have gone to the list, sorry Message transféré Sujet : Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: Error in English string? Date : Wed, 26 Nov 2014 09:46:32 +0100 De : Sophie gautier.sop...@gmail.com Pour : Jesper Hertel jesper.her...@gmail.com Hi Jesper Le 26/11/2014 01:16, Jesper Hertel a écrit : Okay, so there are actually *19 places *where these mysterious chart documents are mentioned: https://translations.documentfoundation.org/da/libo_help/translate/#search=hart%20documentsfields=sourcesoptions=exact (I search for exact phrase because it is faster, so I left out the c/C in chart in the search). I wonder what is right. I just never heard of chart documents, and I cannot find any in LibreOffice 4.4 when I look around. Under File | New… I cannot create a new Chart document…? Jesper 2014-11-26 1:09 GMT+01:00 Jesper Hertel jesper.her...@gmail.com: There is an English string that I find strange in LibreOffice 4.4: https://translations.documentfoundation.org/da/libo_help/translate/#search=Transparsfields=source,targetsoptions=exactunit=28584506 Kontekst: 00040502.xhp par_id3151117 143 help.text Kommentarer: CssFG The text for this string says Choose emphFormat - Chart Wall - Transparency/emph tab (chart *documents*) Shouldn't that be: Choose emphFormat - Chart Wall - Transparency/emph tab (chart *objects*)? As far as I know, there are no chart documents in LibreOffice, but there are chart objects, and the text does apply to chart objects. There is a chart file format .odc which is currently not in use in LibreOffice but it exists in ODF, see here: https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/XML_File_Formats Kind regards Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org Tel:+33683901545 Co-founder - Release coordinator The Document Foundation -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: Fwd: Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: Error in English string?
Ah, interesting! Thank you all for your information. I can observe that if I select a *Chart object* in Writer (4.4.0.0 alpha2) and choose File | Save As…, the only suggested file type is ODF Chart (*.odc). (This could very well confuse average users, as they probably expect to be always able to save their Writer document as a Writer document and not a Chart document. They are probably not aware that the difference is that they just happened to select a Chart object before saving. I would suggest presenting a dialog box to sort out this situation first, asking the user if she wants to save the Chart object alone or the whole Writer document.) In Windows, when I then save the Chart object, it results in a *.odc file (a *Chart document*, I assume). That file is *not associated with LibreOffice* in the file system, and Excel tries to open it when I double-click it; Excel then reports an error and fails to open it. When I try to open the just saved *Chart document *file in LibreOffice (4.4.0.0 alpha2), via File | Open, I get a completely empty Chart opened in the LibreOffice Chart application. So even LibreOffice cannot open its own *.odc files, it seems. But maybe that is just a bug in the alpha version? After having saved a *Chart object *as a *Chart document*, the Writer document also gets the file name of the *Chart document*, including the Chart document extension, which seems very odd to me. And when I add more text to the Writer document and press Ctrl+S to save again, the Writer file name stays the same, so the Writer document seems to be saved as a Chart document? Or maybe just with a Chart document file extension? But how can a Writer document suddenly be saved as a Chart document? But, back to the actual translation: Do all those 19 strings https://translations.documentfoundation.org/da/libo_help/translate/#search=hart%20documentsfields=sourcesoptions=exact really only apply to *.odc *Chart* *documents *but never to *Chart objects*? And if so, how can that be? It doesn't make much sense to me. Isn't a Chart document just a Chart object wrapped in a file? From the information I have been given until now, I would still say, as originally stated, that the text of those 19 strings should read chart object and not chart document. Jesper 2014-11-26 12:34 GMT+01:00 Olivier Hallot olivier.hal...@libreoffice.org: Hi On 26/11/2014 06:49, Sophie wrote: There is a chart file format .odc which is currently not in use in LibreOffice but it exists in ODF, see here: https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/XML_File_Formats Kind regards Sophie Actually you can save a chart (once inside it) as odc file. You can load the odc file and get your chart displayed in LibreOffice Chart. However, LibreOffice Chart is a bit clumsy at the moment. Thre is room for improvement. Regards -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Should value of name attribute in link XML element be translated?
Thanks, Andras! So how come the attribute is there in 3405 places (on different elements, though) if it is not used at all? And how come the guide, which I am now aware of thanks to Sophie, says: *name* is the displayed name of the file content. It has to be localized. in the section about link elements ( https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UI_and_Help_files_Content_Guide#.3Clink.3E.3C.2Flink.3E )? To me, that seems to contradict what you said – or did I misunderstand something? Jesper 2014-11-26 7:05 GMT+01:00 Andras Timar tima...@gmail.com: Hi Jesper, On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 1:43 AM, Jesper Hertel jesper.her...@gmail.com wrote: In the string https://translations.documentfoundation.org/da/libo_help/translate/#unit=28588429 which has this value in English: link href=text/shared/01/05210700.xhp name=TransparencyTransparency/link, should the value of the name attribute (Transparency) be translated? I can see that it has been translated in some languages, and not in others. The name attribute is not used in generated help. It does not matter, whether you translate is.. Best regards, Andras -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] KeyID build
Hi Jesper, *, On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 7:04 PM, Jesper Hertel jesper.her...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, but now I am confused again… I thought alpha and beta releases were also pre-releases, They are. but I can see on http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/win/x86/ that they seem not to be? That location just collects the builds as they are done before they are distributed over the mirror network. In other words: that is the early-tester URL where people can get the build before it is officially made available via the main download pages on www.libreoffice.org Aren't daily builds just automatic daily (or nightly) builds? The daily builds are automatically done. The pre-release ones not. The text on http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/ does not remove my confusion. It mentions a beta version, which must mean that a beta version is a pre-release. Yes, Beta-version also is a pre-release. The difference is that beta version is LibreOfficeDev version, i.e. it uses different user-profile path and has different name, so you can install it next to your stable version of LibreOffice. release candidates (RC) are LibreOffice versions, i.e. they would update your currently installed stable version of LibreOffice And it says that I can get beta versions on the Pre-releases server (http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/) (Access the Pre-releases server and pick the version of your choice there), Yeah, that's a badly written statement here. On the dev-builds.libreoffice.org version there currently is 4.3.5 rc1 available, but it is not yet available via www.libreoffice.org (as it needs to be copied to the mirrors first) - so for the duration of one day or two, you can only get it from dev-builds. but there are no either alpha or beta versions where the link brings me. I even looked under several different platforms with no luck. Yes, dev-builds.libreoffice.org is cleaned up afterwards, as builds on the one hand take lots of disk-space, and on the other hand it makes finding the most recent build to test much harder if there would be multiple versions in the directories. Sorry if I am overlooking something obvious! well, you write text above fullquote, so that's for me always a bad sign (as my experience shows people tend not to read what was written too closely), so I repeat: * dev-builds pre-releases section is temporary upload location. Builds are collected there before they are distributed to the mirrors * after the builds are distributed to the mirrors, the builds are available from www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases * daily builds are automatically generated and don't have newer translations than the pre-release builds ciao Christian -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Should value of name attribute in link XML element be translated?
Hi, Le 26 nov. 2014 21:46, Andras Timar tima...@gmail.com a écrit : On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Jesper Hertel jesper.her...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Andras! So how come the attribute is there in 3405 places (on different elements, though) if it is not used at all? Maybe designers of help format thought, that name attribute would be used in the future. But it never happened. It would make little sense to remove this attribute now, it would just create work for everyone. (E.g. to update translations.). Not to mention that there are plans to bin this help format, and use wiki instead. And how come the guide, which I am now aware of thanks to Sophie, says: name is the displayed name of the file content. It has to be localized. Maybe the author of the guide didn't know that name attribute is unused. I'm the author of the guide and Iyes I thought it was used :-) I'll modify the guide and thanks Andras for your explanation. Cheers Sophie -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Should value of name attribute in link XML element be translated?
While it is not used maybe it was intended as a tooltip text for html links or titles (in help) or something like that? Maybe that could even be implemented with not too much of an effort. Lp, m. 2014-11-26 21:45 GMT+01:00 Andras Timar tima...@gmail.com: On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Jesper Hertel jesper.her...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Andras! So how come the attribute is there in 3405 places (on different elements, though) if it is not used at all? Maybe designers of help format thought, that name attribute would be used in the future. But it never happened. It would make little sense to remove this attribute now, it would just create work for everyone. (E.g. to update translations.). Not to mention that there are plans to bin this help format, and use wiki instead. And how come the guide, which I am now aware of thanks to Sophie, says: name is the displayed name of the file content. It has to be localized. Maybe the author of the guide didn't know that name attribute is unused. Regards, Andras -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Should value of name attribute in link XML element be translated?
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 9:59 PM, Martin Srebotnjak mi...@filmsi.net wrote: While it is not used maybe it was intended as a tooltip text for html links or titles (in help) or something like that? Maybe that could even be implemented with not too much of an effort. It would be possible. However, 99% of the name attributes are identical to link text. They do not add extra information. Cheers, Andras -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
