Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Sort order in alphabetical index in localized LibreOffice

2013-06-18 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Martin,

On Saturday, 2013-06-15 11:17:10 +0200, Martin Srebotnjak wrote:

 I noticed that in Slovenian LO, will check again and report here, in
 Slovenian the problem was that special letters č, š and ž get at the
 end of alphabet (and not č after c, š after s and ž after z). If this
 is true then maybe sorting for more non-English languages is not
 working ...

Hum.. that should not happen.. sl_SI.xml:

IndexKey phonetic=false default=true unoid=alphanumericA-C Č Ć D Đ 
E-S Š T-Z Ž/IndexKey

Just to make sure, we are talking about Writer's index feature here, not
general sorting, yes?

  Eike

-- 
LibreOffice Calc developer. Number formatter stricken i18n transpositionizer.
GPG key ID: 0x65632D3A - 2265 D7F3 A7B0 95CC 3918  630B 6A6C D5B7 6563 2D3A
For key transition see http://erack.de/key-transition-2013-01-10.txt.asc
Support the FSFE, care about Free Software! https://fsfe.org/support/?erack

-- 
To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted



Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Sort order in alphabetical index in localized LibreOffice

2013-06-18 Thread Donald Rogers

On 19/06/13 01:30, Eike Rathke wrote:

Hi Martin,

On Saturday, 2013-06-15 11:17:10 +0200, Martin Srebotnjak wrote:


I noticed that in Slovenian LO, will check again and report here, in
Slovenian the problem was that special letters č, š and ž get at the
end of alphabet (and not č after c, š after s and ž after z). If this
is true then maybe sorting for more non-English languages is not
working ...

Hum.. that should not happen.. sl_SI.xml:

 IndexKey phonetic=false default=true unoid=alphanumericA-C Č Ć D Đ E-S Š 
T-Z Ž/IndexKey

Just to make sure, we are talking about Writer's index feature here, not
general sorting, yes?

   Eike


Yes. It's what you get on the menu in Writer:
Insert  Indexes and tables  Indexes and tables  Type = Alphabetical index

Donald

--
To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted



Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Sort order in alphabetical index in localized LibreOffice

2013-06-15 Thread Martin Srebotnjak
Hi,

I noticed that in Slovenian LO, will check again and report here, in
Slovenian the problem was that special letters č, š and ž get at the
end of alphabet (and not č after c, š after s and ž after z). If this
is true then maybe sorting for more non-English languages is not
working ...

Lp, m.

2013/6/14 Eike Rathke er...@redhat.com:
 Hi Donald,

 On Sunday, 2013-05-19 14:31:20 +1200, Donald Rogers wrote:

 I am editing a translation of the user guide
 GS4002-SettingUpLibreOffice.odt. I created an alphabetical index at
 the end of the document to check that I had translated all the
 anchors and cross-references. It sorts the entries into a wrong
 order. The document language is set to Esperanto and the language of
 the index is set to Esperanto. Here is an extract from the last part
 of the index. Note that ĝ should go after g, ŝ after s. Why do they,
 and presumably other accented letters, go between v and x?

 For Writer's index tables a special sequence is considered, the locale
 data's IndexKey element. In i18npool/source/localedata/data/eo.xml that
 is

 IndexKey unoid=alphanumeric default=true 
 phonetic=falseABCĈDEFGĜHĤIJĴKLMNOPRSŜTUŬVZ/IndexKey

 to me the order looks correct according to your statement (btw, does
 Esperanto not have the letters W, X and Y?). If it worked before in
 earlier versions it would be a regression, could you check that? But it
 might be that it never worked for Esperanto. Please file a bug and set
 me on Cc.

 Thanks
   Eike

 --
 LibreOffice Calc developer. Number formatter stricken i18n transpositionizer.
 GPG key ID: 0x65632D3A - 2265 D7F3 A7B0 95CC 3918  630B 6A6C D5B7 6563 2D3A
 For key transition see http://erack.de/key-transition-2013-01-10.txt.asc
 Support the FSFE, care about Free Software! https://fsfe.org/support/?erack

 --
 To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org
 Problems? 
 http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
 Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
 List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/
 All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted

-- 
To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted


Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Sort order in alphabetical index in localized LibreOffice

2013-06-14 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Donald,

On Sunday, 2013-05-19 14:31:20 +1200, Donald Rogers wrote:

 I am editing a translation of the user guide
 GS4002-SettingUpLibreOffice.odt. I created an alphabetical index at
 the end of the document to check that I had translated all the
 anchors and cross-references. It sorts the entries into a wrong
 order. The document language is set to Esperanto and the language of
 the index is set to Esperanto. Here is an extract from the last part
 of the index. Note that ĝ should go after g, ŝ after s. Why do they,
 and presumably other accented letters, go between v and x?

For Writer's index tables a special sequence is considered, the locale
data's IndexKey element. In i18npool/source/localedata/data/eo.xml that
is

IndexKey unoid=alphanumeric default=true 
phonetic=falseABCĈDEFGĜHĤIJĴKLMNOPRSŜTUŬVZ/IndexKey

to me the order looks correct according to your statement (btw, does
Esperanto not have the letters W, X and Y?). If it worked before in
earlier versions it would be a regression, could you check that? But it
might be that it never worked for Esperanto. Please file a bug and set
me on Cc.

Thanks
  Eike

-- 
LibreOffice Calc developer. Number formatter stricken i18n transpositionizer.
GPG key ID: 0x65632D3A - 2265 D7F3 A7B0 95CC 3918  630B 6A6C D5B7 6563 2D3A
For key transition see http://erack.de/key-transition-2013-01-10.txt.asc
Support the FSFE, care about Free Software! https://fsfe.org/support/?erack

-- 
To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted


Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Sort order in alphabetical index in localized LibreOffice

2013-05-19 Thread Mihovil Stanić
Just checked with plain calc sheet, entered whole croatian alphabet and 
sorting is ok except dž (number 7) should be before đ (number 8).



1   a
2   b
3   c
4   č
5   ć
6   d
8   đ
7   dž
9   e
10  f
11  g
12  h
13  i
14  j
15  k
16  l
17  lj
18  m
19  n
20  nj
21  o
22  p
23  r
24  s
25  š
26  t
27  u
28  v
29  z
30  ž


Didn't understand second part of your message, so didn't check that. :)

Best regards,
Mihovil


Dana 19.5.2013. 4:31, Donald Rogers je napisao:

Hi

I removed a previous version and installed LibreOffice version 4.0.2.2 
on Linux Ubuntu 10.04 from ppa:libreoffice/libreoffice-4-0. I also 
installed the Esperanto language pack (libreoffice-l10n-eo). The spell 
checker works for Esperanto. In ordinary tables the sort order (Tools 
 Sort...) works correctly.


I am editing a translation of the user guide 
GS4002-SettingUpLibreOffice.odt. I created an alphabetical index at 
the end of the document to check that I had translated all the anchors 
and cross-references. It sorts the entries into a wrong order. The 
document language is set to Esperanto and the language of the index is 
set to Esperanto. Here is an extract from the last part of the index. 
Note that ĝ should go after g, ŝ after s. Why do they, and presumably 
other accented letters, go between v and x?


tiparo

anstataŭigoj 13

aspekto 8

historio 8

tondejo 9

vortarojn instali 25

ĝenerale

apriora dosiera formato

ODF-formato, versio de 21

OpenDocument Format 21

Optimumigi la grandon 21

Ĉiam konservi kiel 21

Apriora dosiera formato kaj ODF-agordoj 21

AŭtomataRiparo 21

Konservi informon pri Aŭtomata Riparo post ĉiu__Minutoj 21

Konservi URL-ojn relative al dosiera sistemo / Interreto 21

Redakti dokumentajn atributojn antaŭ konservado 20

Ĉiam krei restaŭran kopion 21

Ŝargi presilajn agordaĵojn kun la dokumento 20

Ŝargi proprajn agordaĵojn kun la dokumento 20

Ŝargi/Konservi

Konservi originan Basic-kodon 22

Microsoft Office-dosierokonvertado 22

Rulebla kodo 22

Tiparaj grandoj 24

VBA-atributoj, ŝargi/konservi 22

Ŝargi Basic-kodon 22

XML-dosieroj

Do other languages have this problem?
Is it to do with the locale definition? (If so why does it sort 
ordinary tables correctly?)


Regards
Donald Rogers






--
To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted


[libreoffice-l10n] Sort order in alphabetical index in localized LibreOffice

2013-05-18 Thread Donald Rogers

Hi

I removed a previous version and installed LibreOffice version 4.0.2.2 
on Linux Ubuntu 10.04 from ppa:libreoffice/libreoffice-4-0. I also 
installed the Esperanto language pack (libreoffice-l10n-eo). The spell 
checker works for Esperanto. In ordinary tables the sort order (Tools  
Sort...) works correctly.


I am editing a translation of the user guide 
GS4002-SettingUpLibreOffice.odt. I created an alphabetical index at the 
end of the document to check that I had translated all the anchors and 
cross-references. It sorts the entries into a wrong order. The document 
language is set to Esperanto and the language of the index is set to 
Esperanto. Here is an extract from the last part of the index. Note that 
ĝ should go after g, ŝ after s. Why do they, and presumably other 
accented letters, go between v and x?


tiparo

anstataŭigoj 13

aspekto 8

historio 8

tondejo 9

vortarojn instali 25

ĝenerale

apriora dosiera formato

ODF-formato, versio de 21

OpenDocument Format 21

Optimumigi la grandon 21

Ĉiam konservi kiel 21

Apriora dosiera formato kaj ODF-agordoj 21

AŭtomataRiparo 21

Konservi informon pri Aŭtomata Riparo post ĉiu__Minutoj 21

Konservi URL-ojn relative al dosiera sistemo / Interreto 21

Redakti dokumentajn atributojn antaŭ konservado 20

Ĉiam krei restaŭran kopion 21

Ŝargi presilajn agordaĵojn kun la dokumento 20

Ŝargi proprajn agordaĵojn kun la dokumento 20

Ŝargi/Konservi

Konservi originan Basic-kodon 22

Microsoft Office-dosierokonvertado 22

Rulebla kodo 22

Tiparaj grandoj 24

VBA-atributoj, ŝargi/konservi 22

Ŝargi Basic-kodon 22

XML-dosieroj

Do other languages have this problem?
Is it to do with the locale definition? (If so why does it sort ordinary 
tables correctly?)


Regards
Donald Rogers



--
To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted