Re: [lace] Duchesse-Sluisse on eBay
At 11:58 am -0500 10/12/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Elaine Merritt, Devon Thein, Jean Leader, Angela Thompson, Collectors: What do you think of this item and the pricing? I've had a look at eBay (not something I do very often) and I'd agree with Barbara Joyce $350 sounds unreasonably high for that little cut piece, I think the website mentioned by the seller as showing an example of a Sluisse leaf must be http://home.hetnet.nl/~aplag/hoofdpagina%20Nederlands.htm (Google is your friend) Jean - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Stuff to make me homesick
Hi to all fellow-spiders, Today has been a good day. The sun was shining this morning the Postman, who I think is a lady, delivered my Australian Lace magazine a note to say that there was a parcel for me waiting at the Tartu Post Office. When I opened it I found that my friend, Laurie Hughes, who had recently visited England had mailed me a UK Lace Guild Xmas bobbin a glass ornament with a hedgehog painted on it. She had also sent me a packet of Tim Tams which I'll have to share with DH 2 sons, but I'll keep them until Christmas. The Australian Lace magazine had a short story about how Liz Ligeti, with help from Ruth Budge, fooled Helen Bell at the Colorado State Fair with her Torchon handkerchief which is really pretty. Well, I better go do a few useful things before I have to get dinner. Pene Penelope Piip [EMAIL PROTECTED] City of Tartu, Estonia - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: Duchesse-Sluisse on eBay
Hello Lacefriends, This is a nice piece, but not much vatieties in it. I have never seen such a long piece at our lace dealers in Germany but I know that the longer pieces are in proporsition to shorter ones often are more expensive. And if there are few pieces of one lace type on market they are also expensive. So I can't say if this price is too high. Greetings Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Royal Train (Gawthorpe Hall)
In a message dated 12/10/04 1:22:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At the moment the Rachel Kay-Shuttleworth collection is unavailable to be viewed because it is being catalogued. They have received a lottery grant to help get all the items in the collection catalogued. All the quilts have been done and there is now a CD on sale with pictures of the quilts. It is hoped to have everything done by October 2005. The house is open to the public between Easter and the end of October each year and there are a few rooms with some of Rachel’s collection on display. Please do not try to see the collection yet because it is unavailable and there are very few people doing the job. They get upset at having to turn people away but it must be finished. If anyone is interested in hearing more from time to time I can keep you informed. Dear Dianne, YES! Thank you so much for this updated report. I hope, some day, to return to Gawthorpe. It won't be soon, as the cost of travel from here to there precludes that. Instead, I buy books (even though they have gone up in price to about two-times the American dollar once the postage is added). What I wanted to write about is the CD of the quilts. This type of product is not as permanent as a book. I hope there will be books about the collection? Recently, a large collection of samplers in Haslemere, England, was reviewed in a embroidery magazine. A CD-Rom for $89. I would not order for my library because it will degrade over time, equipment for viewing will change, etc. Many of us are not going to keep buying equipment, and we will not know about the time-damaged CD's until after the damage has happened. I already resent having to replace a computer every few years. While Arachnes will quibble about CD's, please let's not get off the topic of lace and how best to bring it to students. I do not think any CD can make that claim, and I do not want CD's to take over as source materials or as a topic of discussion (again) on Arachne. Rest assured, I'll not be reading memos about CD's. It's a waste of effort to convince me. Just like the fact that natural fibers have withstood the test of time, books have done so if printed on proper paperstock. I am still referring to a needlework book given to me 55 years ago. It even still has the paper jacket! Dianne, is the 42-page booklet about Rachel Kay-Shuttleworth by Canon G. A. Williams still available? I think there are people on Arachne who would love to read about this remarkable woman who was so involved in the beginning years of the Girl Guide movement and The Embroiderers' Guild. The last photo in the booklet is of Rachel K-S With students at Gawthorpe. She is shown at a lace pillow, with three young women. If the booklet is available, perhaps you could gather purchasing info and put it on Arachne? Cherish the Past, Adorn the Present, Create for the Future - from the cover of the booklet. Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace Embroidery Resource Center - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] For Sulochona
Dear Sulochona, Could you please contact me - my email to you is bouncing. David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] another UFO becomes a FO
After 3 1/2 years of sporadic work, I finally finished my version of Miss Channer's Mat in time for our exhibitions in October this year. I had it quickly framed for the exhibit in Johannesburg and then straight on to the Pretoria Lace Guild's exhibition. I was not entirely happy with the framing so it then went back to the framer and then on to a second framer before it finally came back home again, where it is now waiting for DH to drill a hole in the wall where I can hang it and duly show off to any visitors who are interested. From the time that I cut off the last of the 350 bobbins till now it has hardly been in my possesion. I am dying to send a picture of it to far flung friends, and a friend took a beautiful photo of it with her digital camera before it was sealed behind glass for the 3rd time. She emailed it to me, but the jpeg attachent is 1.12MB and took 45mins to download. With all of the expertise on this list, can anyone tell me how to make it small enough to send on to other people? Also, how to get a photographic print made of it. Thanks in advance Janis Savage t/a The Lace Place South Africa [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: lace-digest V2004 #403
Cherish the Past, Adorn the Present, Create for the Future - from the cover of the booklet. What a nice sentiment. As is the Lace Guild's Custodians of the past and Guardians of the future from Liz in Melbourne, Oz, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Miss Channer's Mat
I would love to see Janis Savage's version of Miss Channer's Mat. Does anyone know where you can get this pattern? I have really enjoyed looking at all the beautiful lace photos all of you have posted. Thank you for being an inspiration. It is great to see so many lace sites on the internet. My Favorites is getting very full. Thanks to all you involved in the Advent Calendar. It has been fun to look at what is new each day. I hope all of you have a happy holiday season no matter which holidays you observe. Evelynn in Boise Idaho where it can't make up its mind whether to be winter or spring. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Miss Channer's Mat
In a message dated 12/11/2004 8:53:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would love to see Janis Savage's version of Miss Channer's Mat.Does anyone know where you can get this pattern? Don't ask. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: going from Torchon to Bedfordshire
On Dec 11, 2004, at 4:04, Jean Leader wrote:
At 9:55 pm -0500 10/12/04, Tamara wrote:
I thought Jean Leader also had a book on beginning Beds (which
would be another one I could recommend sight-unseen, based on the
clarity of her books that I do own), but it's not listed in the IOLI
library.
It should be there because I gave IOLI a copy! The book is 'An
Introduction to Bedfordshire Lace' - it's published by the Lace Guild
It's not in the '03-'04 directory; I just checked again. All they have
listed is what I have - the one on Bucks, and the one with the Beds
bookmarks (the flower symbols of UK). Maybe it'll show up in the next
one ('04-'05) which, I think, should be coming out sometime in January.
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Tamara P Duvall http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd
Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)
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[lace] Lace Exhibitions
Hear hear, Noelene. I go positively green with envy sometimes!! You folks Up Top (well, we are supposed to be Down Under!!) don't know how lucky you are, to have access to museums which show lace, exhibitions, etc. I managed to get into an exhibition in Canberra last year - just by chance I found it was on, (Petronella Wensing's display), but the previous Lace Exhibition was some 8 or 9 (or more) years ago, when we had a 3 hour trip to view some lace - but it was nearly dark in the room, so as not to bother the lace - never mind people who went there could hardly see it!!! There is No lace on display in any of the Melbourne Museums/Exhibition/Art centres, as far as I know, or if there is - it will be in such an obscure section that no-one ever finds it! from Liz in Melbourne, Oz, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] going Torchon to Beds.
Get Barbara Underwood's book Introducing Traditional Bedfordshire Lace in 20 Lessons. If you can do basic torchon, you should be able to move on to Beds lace without any difficulty. The stitches - cloth stitch, half stitch, and the foot stitch (edge stitch) are exactly the same, it is only the way they are used that is different. Good luck with it - and sing out if you need any help. I make mainly Beds lace. from Liz in Melbourne, Oz, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] going from Torchon to Bedfordshire
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 21:08:13 -0500, Gina wrote: I'm (still) a beginner at lace. So far I've completed the exercises in the Torchon Lace Workbook, and I thought to go on to Bedfordshire. I tried it using the book Technique of Bobbin Lace, and was totally confused, so I went back to the Torchon section of Technique (thinking I'd work my way up to Beds there), and even there her style is confusing to me. Can y'all recommend a Bedfordshire book (or a book that contains beginning Bedfordshire) that is suitable for rank beginners? The only skills I have are those covered in the Torchon Lace Workbook. If those skills aren't enough to go on to Beds, is there another, intermediate book I should work on? Those skills are enough, or at least they were for me. I started with the Torchon Lace Workbook, did 9 of the 10 basic exercises and then moved on to Bedfordshire using Barbara Underwood's book. Like you I didn't get on with Pamela Nottingham books, they don't fit my learning style. There is a little difference between us though - I was in a hurry and got to Bedfordshire in about week 3 of my lace career. -- Patience ... a minor form of despair, disguised as a virtue. - Ambrose Bierce Steph Peters, Manchester, England [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scanned by WinProxy http://www.Ositis.com/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lace Exhibitions - Lighting Solution
In a message dated 12/11/04 6:06:22 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I managed to get into an exhibition in Canberra last year - just by chance I found it was on, (Petronella Wensing's display), but the previous Lace Exhibition was some 8 or 9 (or more) years ago, when we had a 3 hour trip to view some lace - but it was nearly dark in the room, so as not to bother the lace - never mind people who went there could hardly see it!!! Dear Lacemakers, There is a solution to this, and I think I've mentioned on Arachne before. Whenever I go to a museum, I carry a small pen light. This is a small flashlight (torch to those in the U.K.) about the size of a large marker pen. I turn it on only when actually looking at a detail, and do it discretely. (Do not make a big production of using it.) I've not had problems with museum guards. Smile, be soft-spoken and polite if a guard asks about it, and he will probably let you continue to use it. In a Budapest museum last Summer, we would have missed the lovely beading on a lace costume entirely, had I not had this little solution with me. It's also nice for use in country inns, where they turn off the hall lights in the evenings to conserve electricity, which happened to me in Switzerland. And, it came in handy in China 18 years ago - when we got off coaches at night in places with no streetlights. Not to mention the wisdom of having it handy in any hotel room - on the night stand, or wherever. When my embroidery group in New Jersey met in a library's basement conference room, I always had one of these flashlights in a pocket, in case the lights went out. This is one of those things to carry along with you for use in many circumstances. Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace Embroidery Resource Center - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Museum Collecting Policies
In a message dated 12/11/04 12:06:45 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I checked - 2-3 yrs ago - with a museum of her choice, about a possibility of giving it the collection or, at least, the best bits of it (there was a lot of decent machine-made stuff there, and some interesting hand-made bits). All *she* wanted, was a tax break. All the museum wanted, was a hefty cash donation on top of the lace donation :) And that wasn't a major museum like the Metropolitan. IOW, you cannot give away lace to a museum these days, unless you're willing to provide the funds for the upkeep of the collection as well, or unless it's a substantial piece of 17th century lace with a provenance (other than my grandma bought it in Europe, in the early 1900s). Dear Lacemakers, First, I've changed the subject because this is about museum practices, not about storing lace pillows. Will share a bit of what I've decided to do about a nice little collection. It may give you some ideas for yours. Though not a heiress, through the years needlework-related treasures have come my way. This year, my lawyer was instructed to redraw my Will to specifically address funding the future of these items. The new Will gives a substantial bequest of cash to go with the treasures to a museum collection. I want to ensure they will rest easy - which is why people gave their treasures to me in the first place. It is not unusual for museums to want/need cash. They have huge expenses. There is the need for proper fumigating of incoming items to protect collections already in residence, allocation of storage space, appraisals, insurance, conservation or restoration attention, supplies (archival paper and boxes), maintenance of proper temperature and humidity, etc. If there were no guidelines for accessioning, many museums would be overflowing and in a state of complete disarray. Some museums seem to accept donations just for the purpose of raising money (though they may not put it in these words). Devon informs us occasionally about the auctions in New Hope, Pennsylvania, of items consigned from well-known museums. To avoid this, think of backing donations of the very special and unusual (with provenance, if possible) with some tangible proof (cash) of your conviction that they are museum-worthy. It seems reasonable to read all museum policies and receipts, which may be worded in ways you do not like. Perhaps you can write your own stipulations about IF/Then in such a way that your donation will be transferred to another museum/collection, and not to auction, if the museum does not want to keep it or the museum becomes defunct. This would force a museum to think about whether they want what you have to give. Nothing is a complete guarantee, but this shows you are serious. This is not a perfect world - the museums have lawyers and government regulations to keep them to certain standards. If you take responsibility while you are alive, you can avoid some situations. I am actually looking forward to starting to do something positive in the next few years. Last month I found the perfect museum home for a sampler and have attached written documentation to it. It will be much more fun to give away some items while alive. If you have a family and that family is not interested in items you hold dear, give to an appropriate museum or historical society instead of selling. It may be that a descendant will be interested. Wouldn't it be wonderful if a great great granddaughter could visit what you've donated? If it is sold, she might not be able to trace it. Items of lesser value can go to younger people whom you know will make arrangements to take care and/or use for educational purposes. This is how my collection developed. People saw how much was being shared/shown and spent on conservation/restoration, courses, etc. The gifts came my way. The lesser items will go on to others in this way. Tamara referred to the woman who wanted a tax break. It never has occurred to me to be interested in a tax deduction in exchange for a donation in this regard. The way I see it - I am a custodian of an aspect of the history of (mostly) women. This is not an impersonal matter between self, an accountant and taxing authorities. Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace Embroidery Resource Center - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: lace-chat-digest V2004 #214
Thank you all for a humourous end to the day. I have had a good laugh, and feel SOO Much better! :)) from Liz in Melbourne, Oz, where it is hot and humid , and we may get a thunderstorm overnight. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Stuff to make me homesick
Hi to all fellow-spiders, Today has been a good day. The sun was shining this morning the Postman, who I think is a lady, delivered my Australian Lace magazine a note to say that there was a parcel for me waiting at the Tartu Post Office. When I opened it I found that my friend, Laurie Hughes, who had recently visited England had mailed me a UK Lace Guild Xmas bobbin a glass ornament with a hedgehog painted on it. She had also sent me a packet of Tim Tams which I'll have to share with DH 2 sons, but I'll keep them until Christmas. The Australian Lace magazine had a short story about how Liz Ligeti, with help from Ruth Budge, fooled Helen Bell at the Colorado State Fair with her Torchon handkerchief which is really pretty. Well, I better go do a few useful things before I have to get dinner. Pene Penelope Piip [EMAIL PROTECTED] City of Tartu, Estonia To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Questions to Ponder
Why do we press harder on a remote control when we know the batteries are flat? Why do banks charge a fee on insufficient funds when they know there is not enough? Why does someone believe you when you say there are four billion stars, but check when you say the paint is wet? Why doesn't glue stick to the bottle? Why do they use sterilised needles for death by lethal injection? Why doesn't Tarzan have a beard? Why does Superman stop bullets with his chest, but ducks when you throw a revolver at him? Why do Kamikaze pilots wear helmets? Whose idea was it to put an S in the word lisp? What is the speed of darkness? Are there specially reserved parking spaces for normal people at the Special Olympics? If you send someone 'Styrofoam', how do you pack it? If the temperature is zero outside today and it's going to be twice as cold tomorrow, how cold will it be? If it's true that we are here to help others, what are the others doing here? Do married people live longer than single ones or does it only seem longer? If someone with a split personality threatens to commit suicide, is it a hostage situation? David in Ballarat To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Christmas Poem
A Politically Correct Christmas Poem Twas the night before Christmas and Santa's a wreck... How to live in a world that's politically correct? His workers no longer would answer to Elves, Vertically Challenged they were calling themselves. And labor conditions at the North Pole, were alleged by the union, to stifle the soul. Four reindeer had vanished without much propriety, released to the wilds, by the Humane Society. And equal employment had made it quite clear, that Santa had better not use just reindeer. So Dancer and Donner, Comet and Cupid, were replaced with 4 pigs, and you know that looked stupid! The runners had been removed from his beautiful sleigh, because the ruts were deemed dangerous by the EPA, And millions of people were calling the Cops, when they heard sled noises upon their roof tops. Second-hand smoke from his pipe, had his workers quite frightened, and his fur trimmed red suit was called unenlightened. To show you the strangeness of today's ebbs and flows, Rudolf was suing over unauthorized use of his nose. He went to Geraldo, in front of the Nation, demanding millions in over-due workers compensation. So...half of the reindeer were gone, and his wife who suddenly said she'd had enough of this life, joined a self help group, packed and left in a whiz, demanding from now on that her title was Ms. And as for gifts...why, he'd never had the notion that making a choice could cause such commotion. Nothing of leather, nothing of fur... Which meant nothing for him or nothing for her. Nothing to aim, Nothing to shoot, Nothing that clamored or made lots of noise. Nothing for just girls and nothing for just boys. Nothing that claimed to be gender specific, Nothing that's warlike or non-pacifistic. No candy or sweets...they were bad for the tooth. Nothing that seemed to embellish upon the truth. And fairy tales...while not yet forbidden, were like Ken and Barbie, better off hidden, for they raised the hackles of those psychological, who claimed the only good gift was one ecological. No baseball, no football...someone might get hurt, besides - playing sports exposed kids to dirt. Dolls were said to be sexist and should be passe. and Nintendo would rot your entire brain away. So Santa just stood there, disheveled and perplexed, he just couldn't figure out what to do next? He tried to be merry he tried to be gay, but you must have to admit he was having a very bad day. His sack was quite empty, it was flat on the ground, nothing fully acceptable was anywhere to be found. Something special was needed, a gift that he might, give to us all, without angering the left or the right. A gift that would satisfy - with no indecision, each group of people in every religion. Every race, every hue, everyone, everywhere...even you! So here is that gift, it's price beyond worth... MAY YOU AND YOUR LOVED ONES, ENJOY PEACE ON EARTH David in Ballarat To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Humour
Subject: Fw: Pasta diet and carbs ITALIAN PASTA DIET IT REALLY WORKS !! 1) You walka pasta da bakery. 2) You walka pasta da candy store. 3) You walka pasta da ice cream shop. 4) You walka pasta da table and fridge. Also CONCERNED ABOUT TOO MANY CARBS IN YOUR DIET? For those of you who watch what you eat, here's the final word on nutrition and health. It's a relief to know the truth after all those conflicting medical studies. 1. The Japanese eat very little fat and suffer fewer heart attacks than Americans. 2. The Mexicans eat a lot of fat and suffer fewer heart attacks than Americans. 3. The Chinese drink very little red wine and suffer fewer heart attacks than Americans. 4. The Italians drink excessive amounts of red wine and suffer fewer heart attacks than Americans. 5. The Germans drink a lot of beers and eat lots of sausages and fats and suffer fewer heart attacks than Americans. CONCLUSION: Eat and drink what you like. Speaking English is apparently what kills you. David in Ballarat To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: Re: identity cards
At 11:18 PM 12/10/04 -0500, Tamara P. Duvall wrote: Having *uniform* ID cards is, in a way, a step *up* in openness; the govt keeps tabs on us all (as it has always done), but, finally, admits to it. Making them act as though they were ashamed of it is a first step. Pretending that it's normal and right is also a first step. -- Joy To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
