[lace] Re: lace ID

2008-06-23 Thread robinlace
 Kathryn Nuttall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Once you see the whole thing, it stops looking like Brugge/Duchesse. I thought 
it had a faint resemblance to something like Binche, but only because of the 
large variety of stitch patterns. 

It reminds me of modern Maltese/Gozo lace, which does have a Beds/Cluny flavor. 
 It's significantly different from the antique Maltese we are more familiar 
with.  The closeup of the plaited ground reminds me of Punt Inglizi (I think 
that's the name and spelling, translates as English stitch).  I expect Karen 
in Malta will be able to confirm or correct my impression.  I only saw Punt 
Inglizi once.

just a suggestion,
Robin P.
Los Angeles, California, USA

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[lace] Thread sizes

2008-06-23 Thread Wendy Davies
Hi

Thank you for explaining that to me it all makes sense now.  The penny has
finally dropped and it is now very clear as to how these threads work.

Hugs

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[lace] teddy

2008-06-23 Thread Wendy Davies
Hi

I must appologise for this posting I was wanting to put it on the non lace
chat, I did try to put lace chat before the arachne but it didn't work.  So
sorry once again.  I would be glad if anyone could give me the correct one.
Thanks

Wendy St Dogmaels
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[lace] Silk thread one more question

2008-06-23 Thread Sue
Hello
I went into our local craft shop today looking for silk thread, found
Guttermans Sulky.
I had forgotten to take the sheet of paper with my information so couldn't
check with the lady, because I couldn't remember what the comparisons were.

I know I am hopeless, sorry.  I wasn't expecting to go anywhere near there
today.

I sort of remember sulky being mentioned somewhere but not whether it would
work against the 100/3 or not.

Many thanks,
Sue T Dorset UK

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Re: [lace] Silk thread one more question

2008-06-23 Thread Brenda Paternoster

Hi Sue

Gutermann Sulky is a rayon thread - comes in two sizes, 30 and 40; the  
30 is similar thickness to Gutermann 100/3 silk, but continuous  
filament rather than spun from short lengths of fibre.
http://www.guetermann.com/Content/Guetermann/02__en/ 
Unternehmensbereiche/01__Retail/Products/02__Machine_20embroidery/ 
Viskose/Stickf_C3_A4den__Contentlist__Viskose.html


Brenda


Hello
I went into our local craft shop today looking for silk thread, found
Guttermans Sulky.
I had forgotten to take the sheet of paper with my information so  
couldn't
check with the lady, because I couldn't remember what the comparisons  
were.


I know I am hopeless, sorry.  I wasn't expecting to go anywhere near  
there

today.

I sort of remember sulky being mentioned somewhere but not whether it  
would

work against the 100/3 or not.

Many thanks,
Sue T Dorset UK

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Brenda in Allhallows, Kent
http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html

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[lace] travelling from Schipol, 3rd July.

2008-06-23 Thread Alan Sheila Brown
Is anyone likely to begoing  on the 10.23am. train from Schipol airport 
to Groningen on Thurs. 3rd July and would like to meet up with fellow 
travellers.
Sheila in Sawbridgeworth, Herts.,where on the 1st day of Wimbledon the 
sun is shining.  Hip Hip hurray!


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[lace] French translations

2008-06-23 Thread Rhiannon Mann
Hello Again,

Could someone help clarify some stitches for me:
point de tige
dieppe
alencon
mariage simple

MANY MANY THANKS

Rhiannon
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Re: [lace] Lace ID

2008-06-23 Thread Patty Dowden

At 08:40 PM 6/21/2008, Kathryn Nuttall wrote:

Can anyone identify this type of lace?

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn10/adam1christy/ebay025-17.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn10/adam1christy/ebay031-19.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn10/adam1christy/ebay027-15.jpg
It looks to me most like Miracourt, a french lace, late 19th century, 
much used on furnishings and trimmings.  The fact that it sort of 
looks like duchesse on a coarser scale and the half stitch motifs 
with a large gimp convince me.


Patty 


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Re: [lace] Lace ID

2008-06-23 Thread Kate Henry

Handmade English Bedfordshire bobbin lace.
Kate Henry
Indiana USA

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Subject: Re: [lace] Lace ID



At 08:40 PM 6/21/2008, Kathryn Nuttall wrote:

Can anyone identify this type of lace?

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn10/adam1christy/ebay025-17.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn10/adam1christy/ebay031-19.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn10/adam1christy/ebay027-15.jpg
It looks to me most like Miracourt, a french lace, late 19th century, 
much used on furnishings and trimmings.  The fact that it sort of 
looks like duchesse on a coarser scale and the half stitch motifs 
with a large gimp convince me.


Patty 


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[lace] Declining Lace Day Numbers

2008-06-23 Thread Carol

Hi All,

I think it is a commonplace problem! When I first joined Essex Lace 
Makers, about thirty years ago, we had (and still have!) the Open Lace Day 
in October.  We used the largest village hall in the country, had loads of 
suppliers, and sold 250 tickets - with a long waiting list for unwanted 
tickets.Nowadays, we are lucky to get 100 - 120 people at the Lace Days.


Similarly with Suffolk Lace Makers.  We also used a large school hall, sold 
about 150 tickets, lots of suppliers, and had a waiting list.As I 
haven't been able to attend the Suffolk Open Lace Day for several years, I 
don't know the exact figures but, from friends who do attend, it seems that 
their attendance is down too.  But - I don't think this is anything at 
all to do with the lack of enchantment of lace, but more to do with the fact 
that there are very many more lace groups in the UK now than there were, and 
consequently, far more Lace Days are organised by all the groups.If one 
looks at the Lace Day ads in the Circle and the Guild newsletters, one could 
attend a Lace Day every weekend, if one had the wherewithal - and the 
stamina! - to travel all over the country, so maybe we all choose to attend 
the Lace Days where people are more congenial, the suppliers are who we like 
and not the same old, same old, every time, and we haven't heard the speaker 
umpteen times Or maybe its just the price of the petrol in the UK 
which is a deciding factor.


Carol - in Suffolk UK

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Subject: [lace] Lace Day



Hi Anne

I noticed this as well at our lace day in May, there was half the number 
there

than last year.




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RE: [lace] Declining Lace Day Numbers

2008-06-23 Thread Sue
I think also a lot of the problem of declining numbers is the internet,
when I first started to make lace some 20years ago the only way we could
get lace supplies was at a lace day or by a few catalogues, I know that
many of our club members buy things online and I have on a couple of
occasions done so myself but I prefer to see what I buy before I buy it
and be sure it is what I want.
Sue M Harvey
Norfolk UK



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[lace] Lace Safari in Croatia No 6

2008-06-23 Thread A Thompson
(Please forgive the delay in telling the next part of the nun's story, but I
have been giving two important lectures, one on weaving, the other on
embroidery and they took a lot of preparation.)

Pauline and I were looking at the lace in the Convent Treasury Museum, Zadar.
Then we became aware of the sweet singing voice of the nun stewarding the
exhibition.  She was singing Plain Song, unaccomapnied to a group of students.
It was quite delightful.   As detailed in the last episode,  she told us she
had started to make bobbin lace.  Her name was Sister Ioana, which translates
as Sister Joan.  We asked about the lace and the richly embroidered vestments.
Then she told us how, when the uprising and Balkan war started in 1991, they
feared that the Convent and all its contents would be destroyed.  They planned
to save some of the Convent Treasures, but only had limited room or safe
places to hide them.  So they decided to limit the amount by date.  This meant
that no lace or embroidery dating to after 1800 was saved, so no 19th century
textiles remain at all.   No wonder we were looking at this beautiful Milanese
lace from the 17th and 18th centuries.  The story behind the lace made it all
the more precious.

Then Sister Joan invited us to go downstairs and see her lace and pillow.  The
pillow was the large, circular Belgian flat type, with Continental plain
bobbins, as she had learned her lace in that country.  She had just started on
a pattern of a Cross in torchon.  Pauline asked if I could take her photo and
she agreed.  It came out well.  She was desperate for lace patterns and we
said we would send her some from England, as she could not write to us first,
but was abe to answer.  Pauline has found some nice patterns of crosses etc,
and we look forward to a lace correspondence and friendship.

Next - a trip to the Island of Pag.

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Re: [lace] Lace Safari in Croatia No 6

2008-06-23 Thread Sue Duckles

We'll forgive you!!

Sue in EY
On 23 Jun 2008, at 22:48, A Thompson wrote:

(Please forgive the delay in telling the next part of the nun's  
story, but I

have been giving two important lectures, one on weaving, the other on
embroidery and they took a lot of preparation.)



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[lace] Declining Lace day Numbers

2008-06-23 Thread Phil and Annette Lally
It's not just the declining numbers that worries me. It seems that the 
average age of the lacemakers is increasing as well.


When the guild's started up 30 or so years ago, there was a great deal of 
interest, a huge lace revival if you like. But also many younger women were 
not working and had greater amounts of time in which to indulge in 
handcrafts of all kinds.
I know when I became pregnant with my daughter (and DS followed a couple of 
years later) I was expected to resign from paid work, there was no maternity 
leave available. So I stumbled across lacemaking as something to occupy both 
mind and hands, and most of all as a sanity saver - one evening a week in 
the company of other adults, away from the babies.
This does not seem to happen any more, younger women have kids and return to 
work and never seem to have enough time to do any but the quickest 
handicrafts (the sort where you can make it in an afternoon!) and 
unfortunately many of  those ladies who generated all the interest in the 
mid 70's are now aging and leaving us.
Another problem with the general lack of time is that it tends to make 
people want lace days close to home (years ago people would travel long 
distances because there were just not that many lace days around). There are 
only so many lacemakers and more lace days just means fewer attendees at 
each one, while smaller local groups seem to flourish.


Sorry if that sounds a little pessimistic but it's just my opinion.

Annette in Trentham, Australia
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Re: [lace] Declining Lace day Numbers

2008-06-23 Thread nljmail
I remember going to Lace Days down in Chicago with a bunch of vendors, some 
as far away as Quebec  barely speaking English.  Then I had kids, and less 
time  too many pins -- now, a dozen or more years later  the Lace Day 
seems much smaller.  It may just be my bad memory though.  Also, we went 
down from 2 to 1 lace groups when I was out of making lace.

nancy in chicago


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From: Phil and Annette Lally [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Arachne list lace@arachne.com
Sent: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 09:37:00 +1000
Subject: [lace] Declining Lace day Numbers

 It's not just the declining numbers that worries me. It seems that 
 the average age of the lacemakers is increasing as well.
 
 When the guild's started up 30 or so years ago, there was a great 
 deal of interest, a huge lace revival if you like. But also many 
 younger women were not working and had greater amounts of time in 
 which to indulge in handcrafts of all kinds. I know when I became 
 pregnant with my daughter (and DS followed a couple of years later)
  I was expected to resign from paid work, there was no maternity 
 leave available. So I stumbled across lacemaking as something to 
 occupy both mind and hands, and most of all as a sanity saver - one 
 evening a week in the company of other adults, away from the babies. 
 This does not seem to happen any more, younger women have kids and 
 return to work and never seem to have enough time to do any but the 
 quickest handicrafts (the sort where you can make it in an 
 afternoon!) and unfortunately many of  those ladies who generated 
 all the interest in the mid 70's are now aging and leaving us. 
 Another problem with the general lack of time is that it tends to 
 make people want lace days close to home (years ago people would 
 travel long distances because there were just not that many lace 
 days around). There are only so many lacemakers and more lace days 
 just means fewer attendees at each one, while smaller local groups 
 seem to flourish.
 
 Sorry if that sounds a little pessimistic but it's just my opinion.
 
 Annette in Trentham, Australia
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RE: [lace] Declining Lace day Numbers

2008-06-23 Thread C Johnson
Hi Lacers,

Well, when Wal-mart stops selling fabric - which seems to be happening at my
branch, (only one fabric rack left from a whole department of fabric) the
only fabric in town will be the Fabric Store, which is now specializing in
only quilting cottonswe will pretty much see the end of an era...

I will have to travel at least 30 miles to find fabrics, which usually
means, to find threads as well.  We will all be using mail order.  And our
postage just went up another penny for first class postage and now there are
size restrictions on the envelopes and packages as well.

We are entering a new era.

Susie Johnson
Morris Illinois where we are having a nice cool evening -
But the sun is being to parch the grass.

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Re: [lace] Declining Lace day Numbers

2008-06-23 Thread Linda Bill Mitchell
Not only are lace days and groups getting smaller and older, orchid 
societies and shows are too. Again, a matter of availability.  With so much 
coming from China and Taiwan, things are rapidly and not necessarily for the 
better IMHO.


Linda, the string-a-holic in Oregon where we are expecting 100 on Sunday 
(shudder!).


PS As we have several new members of the list I'd like to suggest you give 
us your location - it helps us help you with information and sources as well 
helps us get to know you!


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Hi Lacers,

Well, when Wal-mart stops selling fabric - which seems to be happening at 
my

branch, (only one fabric rack left from a whole department of fabric) the
only fabric in town will be the Fabric Store, which is now specializing in
only quilting cottonswe will pretty much see the end of an era...

I will have to travel at least 30 miles to find fabrics, which usually
means, to find threads as well.  We will all be using mail order.  And our
postage just went up another penny for first class postage and now there 
are

size restrictions on the envelopes and packages as well.

We are entering a new era.

Susie Johnson
Morris Illinois where we are having a nice cool evening -
But the sun is being to parch the grass.

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Re: [lace] Declining Lace day Numbers

2008-06-23 Thread Sister Claire
I've never been to a lace day. Since I only began to make lace years after
moving to Israel (and I am not a traveler), that is understandable.

However drumroll I am hoping and planning to be in northern Italy next
summer for a brief trip. It will be a combination religious- and
lace-pilgrimage and I'll be visiting my friend and pizzo di Cantù mentor who
is near Milan. There are apparently many lace museums in the area, which we
will visit. I don't know if they have lace days in Italy and if so, if there
will be one in the Summer, but my friend will know.

Although there are at least three other bobbin lacemakers in Israel and I've
met one of them (hi Avital!) I've never actually seen anyone else making
lace! My technique, such as it is, is cobbled together and idiosyncratic
and would probably horrify you real lacemakers... but I just accept that and
do the best I can under the circumstances. Better to lace oddly then not to
lace at all!

Oh - a word to those of you who feel the pinch of having to drive for half
an hour or an hour to buy threads - take heart! For anything finer than
coton perle (other than regular sewing thread) we have to order from abroad
or rely on the kindness of traveling friends.

It's all worth it, though. It is definitely worth it.

Sr. Claire in Jerusalem

On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 8:30 AM, Linda  Bill Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Not only are lace days and groups getting smaller and older, orchid
 societies and shows are too. Again, a matter of availability.  With so much
 coming from China and Taiwan, things are rapidly and not necessarily for
the
 better IMHO.

 Linda, the string-a-holic in Oregon where we are expecting 100 on Sunday
 (shudder!).

 PS As we have several new members of the list I'd like to suggest you give
 us your location - it helps us help you with information and sources as
well
 helps us get to know you!

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 Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 7:26 PM
 Subject: RE: [lace] Declining Lace day Numbers


  Hi Lacers,

 Well, when Wal-mart stops selling fabric - which seems to be happening at
 my
 branch, (only one fabric rack left from a whole department of fabric) the
 only fabric in town will be the Fabric Store, which is now specializing in
 only quilting cottonswe will pretty much see the end of an era...

 I will have to travel at least 30 miles to find fabrics, which usually
 means, to find threads as well.  We will all be using mail order.  And our
 postage just went up another penny for first class postage and now there
 are
 size restrictions on the envelopes and packages as well.

 We are entering a new era.

 Susie Johnson
 Morris Illinois where we are having a nice cool evening -
 But the sun is being to parch the grass.

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[lace-chat] Re: [lace] teddy

2008-06-23 Thread Sue Babbs

lace-chat@arachne.com


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Subject: [lace] teddy



Hi

I must appologise for this posting I was wanting to put it on the non lace
chat, I did try to put lace chat before the arachne but it didn't work. 
So
sorry once again.  I would be glad if anyone could give me the correct 
one.

Thanks

Wendy St Dogmaels
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