Re: [lace] A preliminary biography of Alan S Cole. Many thanks to members. LONG
Hi Brian Alan Cole was involved with improvement of design of the Irish laces and made several visits to Ireland over the years. This became controversial towards the end of his time there and he, along with the South Kensington system of competitions was subject to a good deal of criticism. Many details are in my Irish crochet lace books, namely: *Early History of Irish crochet lace 2007* *Irish crochet lace in the nineteenth century, 2012* *Irish crochet lace in Austria and France, 2012* He prepared a book about the Irish laces to help the Europeans develop their own styles of Irish crochet lace after he was critised by some of the Irish. It is only in a few libraries such as the one at the V & A. It is a particularly interesting story. Details are on my webpage www.crochethistory.com which is being extensively revised at the moment. Best wishes Barbara On 8/12/2021 4:32 pm, Brian Lemin wrote: > I am not sure how the layout of this will turn out as an email, Forgive me. > > > Special thanks to all of you who have helped get such a good start on > this bio. > > Brian > > A preliminary biography outline of*Alan Summerly Cole, 1846-1934 > */(Gleaned from many web sources academic works etc. with the help of > members of Arachne (lace list)/ > > /Collated by Brian Lemin Dec2021/ > > *Nationality*: English > *Date of Birth*: 1846.08.19 > *Place of Birth*: Bayswater. London Middlesex > *Date of Death*: 1934.03.24 > *Place of Death*: May 30, 1934 (86-87) > London, Greater London, England, United Kingdom > > *Identity: * > > Alan Summerley Cole was the son of Sir Henry Cole, K.C.B, a pioneer in > design reform and the first director of the South Kensington Museum. > > *Marriage:* > > A. S. Cole ( aged 32)married Margaret Elizabeth Clark (aged 19) (1859 ââ¬â > 1933)in March 1879 ,( or possibly on 7 January 1879 )in the parish of > Taunton St Mary) > > They had four children, > > Hilda (b. ca 1880, m. Jack Bennet), > > Muriel (b. ca 1882), > > Jack (b. ca 1884) and > > Doreen (1901-1903). > > *Life: * > > Cole attended the Government Design Schools at South Kensington, and > later became the Assistant Secretary at the South Kensington Museum. He > was an expert in textiles, especially lace, and was the author of a > number of catalogues on the subject. He wrote reports on the working > conditions of lace makers in Britain. > > He was the son of the museumââ¬â¢s first director, Sir Henry Cole > (1808-1882), and also served as Assistant Secretary at the museum. He > published ââ¬ÅA Descriptive Catalogue of the Collection of Lace in the > South Kensington Museumââ¬Â in 1881, and in 1891 produced a supplement for > specimens of lace acquired between 1880 and 1890. He was commissioned by > Parliament to investigate the Irish lacemaking industry; He also wrote a > report on the Devon lace industry and many important works on the > subject and on lace in general. Cole knew many turn of the century Arts > & Crafts leaders, and was one of the only people advocating lace in the > movement. > > He entered Charterhouse for a brief periods despite his father's > reservations. As has been recorded, he spent his working life in the > > Department, as Private Secretary to his father from 1867 to 1873, and > later in a variety of capacities. He continued to serve in the Board of > Education to 1908. He was made C. B. in 1902, and he was a Member of the > Council of the Royal Society of Arts from 1914 to 1918. > > The science and art department were part of the government, and was > based on the South Kensington site next to the museum that became the > V He was widely regarded as a textile expert, publishing monographs > of textiles, silks, embroidery and of course lace. As a commissioner for > the department, he went out to the lace counties and Ireland to report > on the state of the lace industries there, and for the Children > employment commission on children working and schooling in the lace > industry in 1862. > > He was a friend of Whistler. > > In 1849, when Whistler was living with the Hadens at Sloane Street, he > met Cole and his elder sisters at a children's party given by the > Dilkes. Cole and Whistler remained life-long friends and correspondents. > In the spring of 1876 Whistler began a portrait of Cole's father which > was taken up again in February 1882 but never finished as Henry Cole > died on 18 April 1882. The picture appears to have been destroyed. Later > in 1876 Whistler and Cole played together in /Under the Umbrella/, an > amateur theatrical in Kensington Town Hall. In this year Whistler also > gave Cole an number of spontaneous sketches he had made of /The Blue > Girl: Portrait of Connie Gilchrist/ (YMSM 207) and /Arrangement in Brown > and Black: Portrait of Miss Rosa Corder/ (YMSM 203). In 1879 Cole helped > Whistler plan a trip to Venice. > > Cole's diary records many dinners and breakfasts at Whistler's house > during the 1870s in the company of such persons
Re: [lace] would like to help
I donate to the Rural Fire Service volunteers every year. https://www.rfs.nsw.gov.au/about-us/fundraising has a place where you click to donate. I have been in touch with our Lace Guild committee about one member who seems to be a little distance away. However, attempts to contact people directly have had a message that service is unavailable at the moment but to try again later. That message is rare here. Barbara Ballantyne in hazy Sydney - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Propose an OIDFA Work Group for S vs. Z Threads and Winding Bobbins
I would be interested in joining the work group on S and Z bobbins and winding bobbins. In 2010 I wrote a small book on the structure of threads for lace. Jeri reviewed it on Arachne at the time. This is a fascinating, sometimes difficult and important topic not generally understood. The amount of twist in the thread is crucial. * If it is too tightly twisted the thread may be difficult to work with (it curls up on itself) and the resulting lace/textile tight and undesirable. * If is not twisted enough the thread lacks strength and may break. The direction of twist is often changed in the process working - this is usually the crucial point rather than the direction of twist is in the first place. My book covered several aspects. I it gave the usual diagrams of S and Z along with cabled thread. 2 it looked at the*direction of twist of the threads used for lace today*. It included the information in Brenda Paternoster's book and what I saw when I looked at the thread collection of a lacemaker and what was being sold at the moment here. The bobbin lace threads varied a good deal - 2S 2Z 3S and 3Z. Even *within a particular brand and size of thread some spools were S and others were Z finished * For example Kantklosgaren Egyptisch Katoen No 31 included some which were 2S and others 2Z Also Presencia Finca Bollilos No 80 had some 3Z and also 3S. There is a one A4 page listing the threads and the direction of twist. 3 I showed how most Z finished crochet thread overtwists in the process of working. 4 When I crocheted test samples with a range of crochet threads of similar size but different structures (3S 3Z 2S and 2S/3Z) there was little effect of the direction of twist. *However I avoided any change in the amount of twist by working with a short length of thread and taking the thread off the side of the ball.* 5 diagrams of what happened to the amount of thread with twisted ribbon on a spool when a taken off the side of the spool (no change) b taken off the top or bottom of the spool (either an increase or decrease) (I found this twisted ribbon way of illustration used by Jean Leader to be very good) 6 I wondered why Z finished threads came on the scene. The old laces were made with S-finished thread (the traditional situation with linen becauseof the particular properties of the linen fibres). Rosemary Shepherd had advised the use of S-finished thread for bobbin lace. I found a book chapter written by Philip Sykas which mentioned the change from S to Z finish in sewing thread, possibly towards the end of the 1800s. It was done to overcome the untwisting and breaking of the needle thread in certain sewing machines (among other things). The use of Z finished thread is essential in modern sewing machines. (Philip Sykas is an experienced and well respected textile expert at Manchester Metropolitan University) I suggested that the change in lace thread followed the change in the sewing thread. Sewing thread is a huge market whereas that for lace thread is much much smaller. My self published book /Structure of threads for lace/ is still available from me for $A12 plus postage. See my webpage www.crochethistory.com/books. Lacis (www.lacis.com) also stocks it at a rather high price. There is a lot of detail in this post but it seems necessary Barbara Ballantyne in sunny Sydney, Australia > - > To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: > unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to > arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ > - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] I prefer the Arizona scans - Battenberg & Point Lace
ome further notes on Madame Goubaud's writings on point lace. These patterns were included, without any acknowledgement to Madame Goubaud, in /Beeton's Book of Needlework /along with patterns for tatting, crochet, knitting, netting, embroidery, Guipure d'art, berlin work, pillow lace and lace stitches. /Beeton's Book of Needlework /was published in 1870 by Ward Lock and Tyler, Great Britain which was after Madame Goubaud's crochet books were published in 1868 and 1869. I compared the copies of Madame Goubaud's patterns with those in /Beeton's Book of Needlework / in the British library. The Goubaud's and Beeton's were friends and business associates. Madame Goubaud and her husband produced the prestigious French fashion magazine/Le Moniteur de la Mode/ in Paris. Samuel Beeton indicated in the preface to/Beeton's book of needlework /that the best attainable workers had carried out his late wife's wish to have a needlework book along the same lines as her classic one on household management (Isabella had died five years before). He also wrote that point lace had recently become popular and the patterns would help ladies to reproduce antique laces. This is quoted from p 18 of my book/Mademoiselle Riego and Irish crochet lace/ 2007 Barbara Ballantyne in sunny Sydney On 12/06/2017 4:15 AM, jeria...@aol.com wrote: > Thank you, Jenny. Tess did a tremendous amount of work. Books may be > easier to scan today than when she took on this project for us, making so > many out-of-copyright books available - free - to anyone with a computer. > Her > set-up meant standing for hours and hours and lifting the books > continuously. If you have seen heavy original books like the Ricci set, you > know it > had to be back-breaking work that required skill so fragile pages and > bindings would not be damaged. > > A bit of information about this specific publication to which Jenny has > referred, "Battenberg and Point Lace Book": It was re-published by Lacis in > San Francisco in 1987, and may still be available. > > Two copies are kept in my library. The version Tess scanned is under > Priscilla, and the Lacis version is under the author's name: Nellie Clarke > Brown. > > A teaching moment: There are several ways to search for what has been > said about this book: Battenberg, Nellie Clarke Brown, Lacis, Point Lace, > Priscilla, and by the book's title. People who are interested in braids may > find the contents useful, because tapes are similar to braids. And, of > course, these laces are made by a threaded needle and are considered to be > embroidery. > > Jeri Ames in Maine USA > Lace and Embroidery Resource Center > > > In a message dated 6/11/2017 2:24:35 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > je...@brandis.com.au writes: > > It was only when I was comparing the 2 sites work that I really > appreciated > just how much work Tess Parish had done removing all the background colour > from the scans, thus making it much more readable. > > To see what I mean, compare these 2 copies of the same scan > > https://www2.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/books/archive_003.pdf > http://archive.org/stream/priscillabattenb00brow#page/n5/mode/2up > > Jenny Brandis > > - > To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: > unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to > arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ > - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Needle lace resources? Beeton
The material in Beeton's book of Needlework published in 1870 appeared in a series of books by Madame Goubaud issued between 1866 and 1871. I found this when I checked them in the British Library which holds 14 of Madame Goubaud's books. Mrs Beeton died in 1865. 'Samuel Beeton told us in the preface to Beeton's Book of Needlework that the 'best attainable workers' had carried out his late wife's wishes to have a needlework book along the same lines as her classic one on household management . He also wrote that point lace had recently become popular and the patterns in the book would help ladies to reproduce antique laces. Madame Goubaud may have been the editor rather than the author of the wide range of needlework reprinted in the Beeton's book. She already had a large workload as she and her husband produced the prestigious French fashion magazine /Le Moniteur de la Mode/ in Paris. The Beetons and Goubauds were friends and business associates.' These two paragraphs are quoted from my book /Mademoiselle Riego and Irish crochet lace/, p. 18. Madame Goubaud's point lace book can be downloaded from www.archive.org. It came up close to the top of the list when I typed Madame Goubaud point lace into google. Barbara Ballantyne in sunny Sydney, Australia On 29/06/2015 3:58 AM, jeria...@aol.com wrote: To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
RE: [lace] Brittany Lace headdresses in National Geographic Magazine (April 2014)
Many delightful illustrations and details of such headdresses in various forms of lace are in Dentelles en Bretagne: crochet, filet et broderie découpée by Hélène Cario Viviane Hélias, published by Coop Breizh in 2008 De la crise de la sardine à l'âge dór de la dentelle by France Caillard and others, published by Éditions Ouest-France in 2003 Barbara Ballantyne Sydney, Australia On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 1:33 AM, Sharon Morrison sharon_morri...@comcast.net wrote: Hello, I just got my copy of National Geographic Magazine, and there is an article, Legacy in Lace, about lace headdresses in Brittany (France). The article is short, with a bit of history and about a dozen pictures of different headdresses. No mention made of any specific lace techniques. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
RE: [lace] The Lace Place
www.waverock.com.au/lace.htm provides a brief description of the Lace Place in Hyden which I visited a few years ago to see the Irish crochet lace collection. It is well worth a visit and I thoroughly enjoyed it. It is not well known in the tourist industry and I needed help to find out about the bus service. It is a considerable distance from Perth. The small town and the people were delightful. The part time curator, Olwyn Scott is a remarkable lacemaker and a wonderful guide. Barbara Ballantyne in Sydney www.crochethistory.com -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of Sue Harvey Sent: Monday, 25 November 2013 1:33 AM To: Lace@Arachne. Com Subject: [lace] The Lace Place Hi to Australian Lacemakers, my son has just returned from a tour of Australia mainly out of Perth. On his trip he came across a shop called The Lace Place in small town called Hyden. he went in because he knew how I liked lace and was surprised to find it was like a little museum of lace from 1650 onwards. He brought me back a leaflet describing the shop and museum but unfortunately although I emailed them to see if they had a website my email was returned as undeliverable. Have any of you visited? Sue M Harvey Norfolk U.K. Sent from my iPad - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
RE: [lace] Crochet hooks
Finding a hook that the thread fits in is a good start. After that, if you are serious, try a size bigger and a size smaller. People's tension varies. This is a good idea even if you find a chart. About crocheting with lace threads. Again you may need to actually do a small sample with the various threads. Despite the loose twist I have good results with perle thread However I found some of the very fine thread sold for bobbin lace unsatisfactory - almost impossible to crochet because of its gentle twist. It depends on how you want your lace to look too. The cabled 2S/3Z threads such as Cordonnet special or the old Coats Mercer crochet make a firm harsh lace with the individual threads standing out. The softer Cebelia or Fincrochet which are not cabled, give a much softer lace with the threads almost blending into each other. Barbara Ballantyne in Sydney, Australia -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of lacel...@frontier.com Sent: Wednesday, 30 November 2011 7:16 AM To: viv lace Cc: lace@arachne.com Subject: Re: [lace] Crochet hooks I just find a hook that the thread fits in. I don't remember the sizes. Someone will probably come up with a chart on the net somewhere. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] Publishing lace books
Dear Peg, Many lace books are also available at reasonable prices in online bookshops - for example www.abebooks.com Best Wishes Barbara -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of Witchy Woman Sent: Saturday, 18 June 2011 8:24 AM To: lace@arachne.com Subject: [lace] Publishing lace books The Arachne archive has been an amazing treasure trove of lacemaking information for me. I was so glad to see that the list is still active. I subscribed last week and already picked up a few good tips. I live in Fairview Park, Ohio...a suburb of Cleveland...and have been making lace since the mid-90's. The first time I saw bobbin lace was at a Crafts from Around the World fair at the May Company in Cleveland in the mid-70's. A woman named Deb Hietarinta was demonstrating it. Things didn't work out at the time to learn (she moved out of state), but almost 20 years later I was finally able to take lessons. While the kids were growing up lacemaking fell by the wayside, but 3 years ago I took it up again. It's a testament to my teacher, Lynn Swedenborg, that I remembered so much. One of my biggest frustrations in lacemaking is the availability of reasonably priced books...as in under or around $20. Lace books are printed in short runs and sell out quickly. When they show up on sites like Alibris, Half.com or Amazon, they're usually at least 2 to 3 times the cover price. Some are just plain outrageous...i.e. today, Amazon.com has a copy of Rosemary Shepherd's INTRODUCTION TO BOBBIN LACE MAKING for $372.33...no, that's not a typo. I borrow a lot of out of print books from the IOLI Library, but I feel funny copying patterns out of them. I don't like to infringe on copyrights, but I also don't have a lot of money to spend on overpriced second hand books. And I would like to see the authors get the money for the books, not the second hand owners. I wish more of the authors of lace books would consider, once the first run of the book goes out of print, selling them in either a .pdf format or through one of the print-on-demand sites like Lulu.com. BTW, Lulu currently has 7 bobbin lace titles available and 19 lacemaking titles. I look forward to reading the digest every day. Can't wait to read more. Thanks! Peg ~~~ G: What is it you want? D: Freedom... to want nothing... to expect nothing... to depend on nothing. from THE FOUNTAINHEAD by Ayn Rand - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] The Structure of Threads for Lace (Review)
Just a small correction, Dear Spiders I surveyed various bobbin lace threads too, Brok, the KantKlosgaren Egyptisch katoen and the Presencia Bollilos and found surprising variation there as well as in the crochet cottons. More than Brenda noted on arachne a while back and then reported in a letter in the April 2010 issue of Lace on the Coats Cometa threads. Barbara -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of Brenda Paternoster Sent: Friday, 25 March 2011 10:12 PM To: jeria...@aol.com Cc: lace@arachne.com Subject: Re: [lace] The Structure of Threads for Lace (Review) Hi Jeri I have a copy of this book, which Barbara sent to me towards the end of last year (when it was first published) and it is a very in-depth study of a few commonly used crochet (aka lace) threads. The photos show the different visual effect of using differently constructed thread for the same stitches, though obviously no photo can really show the tactile differences. There is also a lot of useful information about the way thread comes off a spool. It's a useful addition to the library of anyone interested in threads. Brenda For more information, go to _www.crochethistory.com_ (http://www.crochethistory.com/) Then, select Books, go to the last one and click on More information. Brenda in Allhallows www.brendapaternoster.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] textile versions of Judith and Holofernes
There is a panel of needlelace in the Lace Study Centre at the Powerhouse Museum, Ultimo, Sydney (No A5335) depicting Judith and Holofernes. Details are at www.powerhousemuseum.com/collection/database/?irn=183127 I hope this helps. Barbara Ballantyne -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of dmt11h...@aol.com Sent: Friday, 4 February 2011 9:05 AM To: lace@arachne.com Subject: [lace] textile versions of Judith and Holofernes I am researching a piece of lace depicting the story of Judith and Holofernes and I wondered if anyone had seen other laces with this theme. Also of interest would be embroideries depicting a chronological progression of the story as exists in the lace. I know of laces showing Judith and Holofernes that are in the Metropolitan Museum of Art, the Cooper-Hewitt, the V A (a lace picture), also one depicted in the Subversive Stitch in the Fitzwilliam museum (a cutwork). I have been told there is one in St. Gallen and would be interested to hear more about it. Of particular interest would be discovering the source of the design. _http://www.metmuseum.org/search/iquery.asp?command=textdatascope=allattr1 =09.68.90_ (http://www.metmuseum.org/search/iquery.asp?command=textdatascope=allattr1 =09.68.90) will take you to the entry for the Metropolitan Museum of Art version. Click on it, and be sure to see all the additional photos of it, since it is a series of scenes. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] Lace in Vietnam Warp/Weft
Some caution would be wise here. The Conservation section at the Powerhouse Museum said a few years ago that the manufacturers now include other chemicals so the oven bags are probably no longer of archival status. The older ones are often stiffer and more crinkly. The newer ones are more like plastic. They were so convenient too Barbara Ballantyne in Sydney Australia where it delightfully sunny -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of kar...@cox.net Sent: Wednesday, 16 June 2010 5:46 AM To: lace@arachne.com Subject: Re: [lace] Lace in Vietnam Warp/Weft Shirley, Very interesting. I had to go check on my oven bags and mine are made by the Reynolds Co. I'll have to check the store and see if they have the ones by Glad. Wonder if ours would be acid free? Patsy A. Goodman Chula Vista, CA, USA Tregellas Family endso...@internode.on.net wrote: It's all these little hints which make life so much easier. Thank you Jeri for my new piece of knowledge today. A comment was made today our Guild meeting. The curator was talking about storing lace and that she'd had to buy more oven bags. Some girls had a giggle thinking that she had said the wrong thing. The fact is that the oven bags we have in Australia are made by the 'Glad' company and are acid free. Cheers, Shirley T. - with cold toes and fingers as morning temps are dropping to about 2C. br but we still need more rain. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] misc and Beeton's book of Needlework
Not many people realize that the patterns in Beeton's Book of Needlework are the same as in Madame Goubaud's books published about the same time. People often quote Mrs. Beeton's tatting methods but Isabella had been dead for several years by the time Beeton's Book of Needlework came out. Madame Goubaud may have been the editor rather than the author of the wide range of needlework books reprinted in the Beeton's book. Mme Goubaud already had a large workload as she and her husband produced the prestigious French fashion magazine Le Moniteur de la Mode in Paris. The Beetons and Goubauds were friends and business associates. Samuel Beeton told us in the preface to Beeton's Book of Needlework that the 'best attainable workers' had carried out his late wife's wish to have a needlework book along the same lines as her classic one on household management (Isabella had died five years before). He also wrote that point lace had recently become popular and the patterns in the book would help ladies to reproduce antique laces. I quote from my book Mlle Riego and Irish crochet lace which, along with Early History of Irish crochet lace, has a deal of general needlework and social history as well as of crochet lace. Barbara Ballantyne in Sydney Australia www.crochethistory.com - Original Message - From: hottl...@neo.rr.com To: lace@arachne.com Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 12:35 AM Subject: [lace] misc. Hello All! Thank you for posting the Beeton's link. Ahh--but did you notice at the bottom of the article--Paternoster Row?? Any relation?? As to The Lacemaker in Cortland, OH--yes the shop is very much alive well. Tracy has been out of the office teaching vending at various lace days SCA events across the US but will re-open the store front on Aug 11th. Always check her website as she posts her schedule there. BTW, several events are planned for this fall at the shop including a needlelace work group, labyrinth class, Death Lace Race Project Hedgehog (apologies to Heidi Klum) a kumihimo workshop is on the radar for spring. She has expanded her shop so there is a huge classroom where lacey folks can gather. Sincerely, Susan in Erie, PA where it's only 1.5 hours to laceland (Cortland). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Dating Therese de Dilmont
I have an old copy bought in a second hand bookshop in Dublin. The spine is fragile and the edges of the pages are discolored. The title page includes English edition All rights reserved There is no number on the title page or its verso which reads To be had of Th de Dillmont, Dornach, Alsace and at all booksellers, and embroidery shops Price, English found with gilt edges English edition Sh 3 - French editiion Fr. 3.75 German editiion Mk 3- The cover is green with a spray of leaves across the top and spine it measures 15.5 x 23.7 cm It has designs not in any later edition and I suspect it is one of the earlier versions. I was able to check another apparently identical copy in a library and it has no numbers either. The table of contents is right at the end of the book just before the last page with text which is 574. Just before this is a 4 page list of DMC products which includes Cordonnet 6 fils up to 200 guage. I saw a copy which was very similar if not identical in the Lace Centre at Kenmare in Ireland. It included an inscription by the nuns with a date, probably in the late 1880s. I would be good to have some dating. Barbara Ballantyne www.crochethistory.com in Sydney Australia - Original Message - From: Elizabeth Pass elizabeth.p...@tesco.net To: 'Arachne' lace@arachne.com Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 5:34 AM Subject: [lace] Dating Therese de Dilmont My thanks to the many listers who replied to me both on and off list. I will be a few days updating my data base. There seem to be a lot of modern reprints. I have one which is so poor that the pictures have reproduced very badly. BUT I have a very early copy and hand-written on title page is Holmes, Windermere, 1895. I have used this to compare pictures with the reprint. I actually have five copies in all - two pocket ones, one larger English, one larger French and the modern reprint. What a wonderful book! I have referred to it for all sorts of things - even the dreaded Roseground ( well it was when I first started lace.) In fact, for about two years, every time I needed to do Roseground, out would come the little book. If you know the book, you will realise how difficult it is to follow in places - the pricking on one page, picture on another and word for word instructions elsewhere. I used to get my daughter to read out a line, then work the lace, then Anne would read another line and so on. Now it's time to get to the lace pillow. Once again, Many thanks And if anyone else wants to send any details please do. Liz Pass In Poole, 8.30pm where the sun is still shining and the weather is the hottest it's been for a more than a year. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Nellie O'Cleirigh
Nellie O'Cleirigh passed away suddenly at her home in Dublin last week. She will be sorely missed Barbara Ballantyne in Sunny Sydney - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Halas lace flower on ebay
I expect that many of you know that the Australian lace maker Marie Laurie wrote a teaching manual on Halas lace. It is available from Lacis www.lacis.com Barbara Ballantyne - Original Message - From: Annelore Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Kate Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Arachne lace@arachne.com Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 7:54 AM Subject: Re: [lace] Halas lace flower on ebay Hello All, I visited the museum at Kiskenhalas around 10 years ago and purchased a flower and a butterfly. You can see the 3 overlapping fish on the lower right side of the butterfly. They are worked in a circle. On the left lower side in the same area is a design worked in a circle. At first glance you do not notice the 3 fish. They are no fish on the flower, and I was told that they do not put them on flowers. I understand that the flowers are often used for weddings, etc., and no fish are worked into that lace. I would have liked to purchase more pieces, but they are rather expensive! Annelore Stone in the shadow of Mt. Rainier in the Great State of Washington - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kate Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Arachne lace@arachne.com Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 2:40 PM Subject: Re: [lace] Halas lace flower on ebay Hi Kate, and others... I have the beautiful book, Halaisi Csipke (Halas Lace), but don't know much about the lace except what I have read in the book. I don't see any usual three fish symbols, but I'm sure it's because I don't know what to look for! Would someone who has the book please tell me where to look? I'd love to have this mystery solved! On the other hand, I thought each of the petals of the eBay flower looked like a fish! Clay -- Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA USA -- Original message -- From: Kate Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Lacers, The usual three fish symbol is not worked into the flower on ebay. The whole petals appeared to me to be fish. It is better to have the lace in your hand than in a photograph. Thanks for all the lacers who wrote to me. :)Kate Henry Indiana USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.30/1027 - Release Date: 9/24/2007 11:27 AM - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Mary Card and dating periodicals
Dear Jane To find the Mary Card books on the lacis website (www.lacis.com) Click online shopping on the first page Then type in Mary Card and Click search Many people appreciate guiding in this way ad they don't find it on first visiting the site. I'm glad you are a Mary Card admirer. She was a remarkable lady with a good deal of charisma as well as a talented and prolific designer. Barbara Ballantyne in Sunny Sydney, Australia www.crochethistory.com - Original Message - From: Jane Viking Swanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: arachne lace@arachne.com Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 11:12 AM Subject: [lace] Mary Card and dating periodicals Hi Barbara and All, I'm so glad you wrote to arachne and I'm so happy to see that Lacis in the US is carrying your books. I've been wanting to buy them but hadn't gotten around to ordering from Australia yet. Do you happen to know what category they have them in? I looked around on their website a little bit last night but couldn't find them. Lacis doesn't always list things where I can find them! I look forward to reading your thoughts on dating old pub- lications. In my research on Battenberg lace I run into the same thing and there are clues if you know what to look for! I also loved your articles in Piecework on Mary Card. I'd seen her work in the old magazines but it wasn't until we had a discussion on arachne that I really paid attention when I saw her name. Too focused on my special interest G. Her work is so lovely and knowing what else was being done at the same time gives me a broader understanding. I would have sent this privately but I think others may be interested in this part of our lace history too! For anyone who deleted the first message the title of one of Barbara Ballantyne's books is Mary Card: Australian Crochet Lace Designer Jane in Vermont, USA who is heading to bed and I am not a paid advertiser G. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Masters Thesis on American Lacemaking
Dear Lacemakers In times past University Microfilms in Ann Arbor Michigan sold xerox copies of theses at a reasonable price. It was an excellent system. Does this still apply? And if so are masters theses covered? Barbara Ballantyne In sunny Sydney Australia - Original Message - From: Ilske und Peter Thomsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 6:47 PM Subject: Re: [lace] Masters Thesis on American Lacemaking Devon, Michelle has done a great job of pulling it all together, especially when one considers how little *truly American* lace there has been made in the short time US has been US. I think this would be interesting for all list-members especialy those who are interested in lace-history. Could this be send on the list perhaps? Greetings Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] More of Rosemary Shepherd's contributions to lacemaking
Dear Arachneans It is not generally known that Rosemary's work continues at the Powerhouse Museum after her retirement. Before she left the Museum in March 2003, Rosemary appealed to lacemakers for volunteers to keep the Lace Study Centre open. This Centre has 300 of the Museum's best pieces of lace (historic and contemporary) on display, in drawers, protected by perspex. It also has other predictable items such as Lace samples and partly completed work as touch pieces. Several lace pillows, including one for use by the public. A collection of postcards and portraits featuring lace A microscope (binocular dissecting) for researchers A lacemakers lamp Reference books such as Santina Levey's History of Lace and the Therese de Dillmont Encyclopaedia of Needlework. Cataloguing details of the lace in the Centre and other relevant literature. The lacemakers who volunteered underwent training and are at the Centre 10.30 - 1.30 on weekdays. Most of the time there are two lacemakers, usually members of the Australian Lace Guild. Rosemary is an active volunteer in the Lace Study Centre and still quietly assists curators at the museum and lacemakers in many ways too numerous to mention here. The venture is working well and has created a good deal of interest. Potential lacemakers are given details of their nearest Lace Group and it is likely that some of these will help keep this skill alive. Other people leave with a new respect for the lace in their family. If Rosemary had not called for volunteers and fostered this project the lace would have been put in the basement storage area and the room would have been allocated to another project. Because of her initiative and support we still have ready access to this valuable resource. All volunteers have learnt more about lace. The museum website has details and a contact email address Either go to www.phm.gov.au and click on education, then lace study centre or www.powerhousemuseum.com/education/lacestudycentre.asp I have been hoping that Rosemary would give some of these details on Arachne. After the unwarranted slur on her integrity it seems important to make them known. Barbara Ballantyne one of the volunteers in sunny Sydney - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re [lace] colour in lace etc.
The effect of dyes appears to be quite marked in the rayon sold as crochet silk to day. The pale colours are soft and good to work with but the dark blues and black in the range are so harsh that I would not use them. I have a black shawl in black rayon from many years ago and it is delightful both in appearance and the drape. I have looked without success for thread to work a similar one. Barbara Ballantyne in Sunny Sydney, australia - Original Message - From: Patricia Dowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 9:48 AM Subject: Re [lace] colour in lace etc. . . . About green threads. I knew a lady who wanted to clean an antique embroidery, which she did very gently and very carefully in distilled water. The whole thing turned out beautifully except the green. It just disintegrated and not a hair was left. At the time I wondered whether it was the chemical composition of the dye itself. I have run up against this a couple of times since with things I have bought at flea markets, and it's always the green thread that falls apart. Interesting. Sharon = Hi Sharon, I have to think that it is the chemical composition of the green dye stuff. A friend of mine used to make kites from ripstop nylon fabric. In spite of being the same fabric in the same weight from the same manufacturer, the hand of the fabric differed by color rather dramatically. As I recall, the yellow was quite stiff and the purple was soft and flowing. We know that the black dyes used in the 19th century are eating the fabrics they were applied to because of their iron oxide content. That means that most Chantilly is slowly dy(e)ing and is already mostly too fragile to actually wear. Modern dye manufacture is often stymied by ecological constraints into using less than optimal formulations. It seems to me that probably something in the green dye stuffs (some mineral oxide in a solvent) are not easy to bring to a neutral or near neutral state or that once stable, they degrade over time, which also probably means that they oxidize. Oddly, since I like to make lace in wire, a nice bright royal blue wire is non-existent. Maybe for the same kind of reason. Modern enamelled wire is actually coated with polyester much of the time. In any case, it isn't really enamel and doesn't come in a nice bright blue. End of musings . . . Patty - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Ebay item 3584224775
Can anyone comment on this old German book with Irische lace 3584224775 please? Barbara Ballantyne in Sydney Australia - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] New French book on Irish crochet in Brittany
I have recently received a delightful book De la crise de la sardine a l'age d'or de la dentelle from the Association Dentelles d'Irlande bretonnes published by Editions Ouest-France. It is a history of Irish crochet which was brought into Brittany after the decline in the sardine industry in the early 1900s. It is extensively illustrated, mostly in black and white (some color) with some beautiful lace which the French developed so expertly. It is wonderful to see this history so nicely documented. I would expect that many lovers of Irish crochet would be interested in this book which I have been unable to find in the main online bookshops such as www.abebooks.com and www.alibris.com. It is listed at perso.wanadoo.fr where it sells for 14.25 Euros. My contact, Maryvonne Wetsch may be able to supply it but would be unable to accept credit card payments. If you are interested in purchasing a copy perhaps you could let me know so I can advise Maryvonne of the interest. I can recommend it and find it relatively easy to read with my level of French (Learnt in High school many many years ago). Barbara Ballantyne in sunny Sydney Australia - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Problem with old hay filled pillow
Dear Jo The conservation department of our Powerhouse Museum here in Sydney Australia advise putting such things in a commercial freezer for a week or so. A domestic freezer with temperatures that vary is not suitable as the changes in temperature allow the insects to adapt. A butcher's or other commercial freezer is usually suitable. I hope this helps. Best Wishes Barbara Ballantyne in sunny Sydney - Original Message - From: Jo Christodoulides [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:14 PM Subject: [lace] Problem with old hay filled pillow Dear friends, I've been lurking for quite a few months now and have enjoyed the posts. But I now have a small problem. I've just finished a piece of lace and while I was working on it, I noticed a few tiny little insects running around on my pillow. This is my only pillow (at the moment) and I made it about 18 years ago at school. (What a lucky girl I was, my needlework teacher, Mrs Collins, was a bobbin lace maker and she taught the 2 of us that were interested, instead of embroidery!) The pillow was made with a hardboard base and a cover which was stuffed with chopped up hay/straw (can't remember which). Unfortunately, I get hay fever, so my friends at school had to stuff it for me, and even now, if I haven't used it for a couple of years, I get the sneezes for a few days of use! I hadn't noticed these insects before, but recently I've been lace making non stop for about 8 months (instead of picking it up and putting it down for a year!!), so I noticed them. Is there any way of getting rid of them without destroying the pillow? I'd be very grateful for any advice. Many thanks, Jo in hot, sunny and humid Cyprus (but then again, it's alway hot, sunny and humid in Cyprus in the summer, unlike the UK!! VBG) - Yahoo! Plus - For a better Internet experience - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] TURKISH LACEWORK OYA CATALOG 2 VOLS FIGURES on ebay
There are many patterns for oyas in crochet in The Batsford Book of Crochet by Ann Stearns (pages 144 - 155) Some are beaded; others are not. An extract on p 144 reads Personal lace consists largely of the very fine narrow laces used for trimmings, either as a braid or a more decorative edging. The lace is seen as a decoration on such articles as sashes, scarges, large handkerchieves... head squares. The young girls prepare their dowry by making lace for these articles, and it is known by the name oya. For example,each girl may prepare as many as 25 head squares displaying very beautiful and different oyas. ... The very best technique used for making oyas is the needlemade technique and only the more able needlewoman could produce the best quality oya. Barbara Ballantyne in sunny Sydney, Australia. - Original Message - From: Jean Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jean Nathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [lace] TURKISH LACEWORK OYA CATALOG 2 VOLS FIGURES on ebay Hi Jean, I think that Oya is the term used for the Armenian knotted lace. (ie) .needlelace), but I can't lay my hands on the book to check at the moment. Looking at some of the sellers other items however, they have a scarf with what appears to be crochet and beads round the edge, It seems to be just the same as the one I bought in the turkish part of Famagusta, Cyprus 35 years ago. It is on muslin cloth, large headscarf size, edged with crochet and decorated with seed beads, which had obviously threaded on before the crochet was started. I did not know anything about Armenian lace then so I did not look for any examples. Jean in Cleveland U.K., trying to stay cool and fighting with a cross stitch picture which has gone rather wrong! On Wednesday, August 6, 2003, at 09:20 AM, Jean Nathan wrote: This is a bit different: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/ eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3542965907category=463 50 or search for item number 3542965907 Would have thought the appeal is a bit specialised. Jean in Poole - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
