Re: [lace] Oya reticella laces
Good morning All, I took the Council members class on Bibilla in Athens last year, because I love the Oya scarves they make. Not a good idea. As Diane said, its all in the tension. My round doierly is more like a basket, and I ended up with a bad shoulder for weeks. So I have made a Rosa Libre Edge to put on a scarf as a sort of Bobbin Lace Version of Rosa Libre. I will post a picture when it is finished. It needs a couple of Butterflies now. Jean in Cleveland U.K. On 25 Jan 2006, at 01:43, Diane Z wrote: There's an article in the last Piecework magazine on oya lace. I don't think the directions are too good but the close up of the finished edge is very good. There are several books on Armenian lace on the market and the descriptions are very good on how to make the knot. I also took the class in Harrisburg, and it is not a complicated procedure. Tension is everything and that part I still can't get correct. I think this is a perfect lace to make while traveling. OIDFA in Athens has a class on Oya lace in May. I'm hoping to get a few tension pointers from some of the students of that class and finally have a good portable lace to make. Diane Zierold Lubec Maine - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace]contemporary tatting fan
Oh!, Thank you Treena for that wonderful fan site. What a splendid work of art. It really is 'thinking outside the box' as far as construction and design are concerned and all the better for it. Not for everyone perhaps but wonderful that someone can work like this. Happy new year to All Spiders, and may you achieve at least some of your resolutions. Mine is to try and 'unclutter' myself from all the piles of 'it might come in one day' junk of cuttings, postcards, pictures, fabrics etc I seem to have collected. I've made a start. The end is not in sight! Jean in Cleveland U.K. On 1 Jan 2006, at 04:23, James and Trenna Ruffner wrote: While surfing I found this lovely contemporary tatted fan that I think all lacemakers will appreciate especially the tatters among us. A lovely use of an old technique in a modern mode. And what a privilege to work with another artist/craftsperson. Too bad the picture of the final product isn't clear enough to see the detail. Trenna, Michigan http://www.lecurieux.com/Frivolite/frivolite.htm - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] ebay item: but is it crochet?
This looks like needlelace to me too. I see that the sale has ended. Was that early? Jean in Cleveland U.K. and feeling cold at 26F On 28 Dec 2005, at 22:06, bevw wrote: Hi everyone I notice that the Russian lace album is now at $139.++ Here's an interesting table runner: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItemitem=7376694345ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:US:71 or at tiny: http://tinyurl.com/9ygfq It looks like it could be needlelace, or is it just really tightly packed crochet? -- bye for now Bev in Sooke BC (on Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) Cdn. floral bobbins www.woodhavenbobbins.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Greetings
Good morning All, to all Spiders everywhere, To all Lace makers, where ever you are, a Very Happy Christmas and a peaceful and lace filled New Year. Jean in Cleveland U.K. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Susan Bobbins
Good morning All, Of course I had forgotten about all of the Susanna's and variations. I stand corrected. I have only a few named bobbins, a couple of Jane's and A Marie, which I bought for my daughter in law whose full name is Maritha but I'm not likely to find a Fijian name on an old Midlands bobbin! Jean in Cleveland U.K. On 21 Dec 2005, at 05:34, Sue Fink wrote: Jean says that she is not sure if Susan is a name that would have been used in Victorian times. I have to say that as a Susan myself I have collected several with that name. In fact I haven't counted them up but as I do have several, I have stopped focussing on Susan, coz I began to think that if I collected them all, someone would say there were no Susans who were lacemakers in the old days! I have also been collecting family names and now have Fred, Stephen, Anne (which will have to do for my daughter Annemarie), George, Philip, Elizabeth and Daniel. However I don't think I will have much luck in collecting Veronica, Rochelle, Jorja and Chiara! Sue Fink, Masterton, New Zealand - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Inscribed bobbins
Good morning All, I took a quick look at the Susan' bobbin. The sale had ended by then though. A couple of things struck me. The green colour was startling, but I have one similar. But I cannot remember seeing a Coloured inscribed bobbin. Also all the inscriptions I have seen have been in block capital letters. 'Susan' appeared to be cursive. The other thing that worries me about it is the name itself 'Susan' This is only a gut feeling as they say, but Susan does not strike me as a victorian name. I have been searching for a 'Jean' bobbin for years but I know that I am unlikely to find one. Victorians just did not call their daughters that. Jan is the nearest I can come up with. Jean in Cleveland U.K. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Passée à Cheval?
In this book , as in others of the series, sometimes instructions carry on over the page. There are 3 points highlighted by a circle in this pattern, No's 1 and 2 are illustrated on page 16, no.3 is on page 18.. This is an insertion adapted from the edge pattern you are working. I'm not sure which of these if any is the 'passee a cheval' but with these patterns I have found it best to ignore the written instructions and just follow the diagrams. Best Wishes, Jean in Cleveland U.K. On 17 Dec 2005, at 07:16, Donna Hrynkiw wrote: Greetings from a new subscriber -- with a query. I'm about to begin a pattern from Modèles de Dentelles au Fuseau Cluny by Mick Fouriscot and Mylène Salvador; Fougères Bordure on page 16 to be exact. The instructions mention passée à cheval which my highschool french translates as last with horse. So it can't be a literal translation, but the name of a technique or movement. (horse passage? horse crossing?) I've tracked down a representation of passée à cheval at http://www.chez.com/dentelle/Tech/Cheval/passee.htm (which even references Mick Fouriscot. Whoo-hoo! I'm on the right track). I'm having trouble translating the instructions again, but the diagram looks suspiciously like what Springett calls a Cluny Crossing. Am I close? Another query: If you have ...Dentelles au Fuseau Cluny handy and can look at the pattern -- where are Fouriscot and Salvador recommending the use of the passée à cheval? At the narrowest point of the lace -- where the plait with the double picot joins the headside trail? Donna in Surrey, British Columbia, Canada Bobbins loaded and drawing the pricking - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] BEWARE - Gorgeous Antique Beaded Bone Lace Bobbin * Circa1830 (6224228813)
I agree with you Ken. That's not a Haskins head. Or tail I feel either. Jean in Cleveland U.K. On 28 Nov 2005, at 20:12, kenn van dieren wrote: I just noticed that the bid price on this bobbin has reached $61.00 with 1-1/4 days left for bidding. While I have bought a couple of bobbins listed by her that do look authentic ( I have the same research book too!) I think anyone buying this one is getting ripped off. I did write to her. What follows is what I stated to her. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] OIDFA in Greece in May (very long)
Hi Tess and all OIdfa members, You should receive a special bulletin with full details of the Congress, including hotels etc. I had mine a week ago. This also includes booking forms. It is just these forms that they want back by mid-December. They will then send an invoice. That's when they will want the money. Jean in Cleveland U.K. OIDFA Council member. On 24 Nov 2005, at 20:36, Tess Parrish wrote: The information on the upcoming OIDFA Congress in May has been posted on their website: http://www.oidfa2006athens.com/ This information will all of course also come in the next OIDFA bulletin, but as registration is due by December 15 this doesn't give those of us who haven't received our bulletins much time to decide on which events we want to attend and to send in our deposits. So I urge you to take a look at all the goodies they have laid on for us and to make up your minds as quickly as you can. For those who don't know about OIDFA, it is a really good group to belong to. It is based in Europe, the original home of lacemaking, but its members come from all over the world (like Arachne!). It publishes its magazine four times a year, and the articles reflect the state of lacemaking everywhere. A great Congress is held every other year in a different country. It is made up of three parts: four days of classes in a good choices of techniques, especially those of the host country; three days over a weekend with lectures and exhibits and happy socializing; and five days of a tour of the country with special lace events set up everywhere. This year the Congress is being held in Greece for the first time. Looking over the offerings that they have laid on for us, I am amazed at what we can see and do to find out not only about lacemaking in Greece, but with many day trips available to visit historic sites and famous buildings. There are two special trips, one to Chios and the other to Crete. These are the choices for the usual tour of the country, and in the case of Crete, we will get there by boat which should be much more fun than the usual bus trips. The Congresses normally take place in August, but this Congress will be held at the end of May to avoid the strong heat of summer in Greece. This is why we are all being encouraged to go on line early to see what we are being offered. One very helpful asset, by the way, is that we can pay for everything--the Congress, the hotels, the classes, and the long trips--by credit card. This is not always the case, but the Greeks are certainly doing everything they can to encourage us to come to their ancient and beautiful country. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to email me privately. I will answer anything I can, and I have found that the organizers in Greece are very prompt and helpful with their replies. This is a multi-lingual organization, by the way, publishing everything in English and in French, but I'm sure that the organizers are well able to handle any language. Tess Parrish in Maine, USA ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Article on bobbins in Radio Times
Nice work Jean, I wish mine did that trick! I wonder if this article was in response to all the mail they had about the programme where the lace bobbins did not sell? I think that Eric Knowles valuations should have added a warning that prices depend on who is in the saleroom on that particular day and if it is the right type of sale. jean in Cleveland U.K. On 23 Nov 2005, at 13:05, Jean Nathan wrote: For those who don't have access to the Radio Times, here's the text of the article on bobbins. No, I didn't type it all out - I don't use the optical character reading facility of my scanner often, but it comes in useful for things like this. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Fwd: Cards for lace
Doh! Thanks Tamara. Got the wrong button again. Jean in Cleveland U.K. On 22 Nov 2005, at 04:11, Tamara P Duvall wrote: I'm going a out on a limb a bit here, forwarding a message which had been sent to me privately. But, as I said when I asked the question, I think the answers might be of interest to more people than myself, so here goes: - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Lace maker model
Good morning all, I wonder if anyone can help me identify a small lace maker model I found recently. She is modelled in porcelain, plain white, unglazed (bisque?) The only identifying marks underneath are the initials C or possibly G W surmounted by a crown in brown and some numbers impressed into the base. She is sitting on a chair and holding a Dutch style pillow on her knees and using Dutch style bobbins. I have a feeling that she is modelled on a painting, but so far I haven't been able to find which one. The modelling is very fine. Even the lace is detailed. It looks like Bruges bloemwerk. Has anyone any ideas of the origin? Jean in Cleveland U.K. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Eye Candy in Wales
Patty and All, This is certainly a wonderful archive, thanks for sharing. What a pity that such a worthwhile project has received such little publicity, until now! Jean in Cleveland U.K. On 9 Nov 2005, at 11:00, Patty Dowden wrote: Hi Spiders, While meandering around the internet, I put Flemish Lace in Google for an image search. Well, look what I found. There is a remarkable site celebrating the history and culture of Wales called the Gathering of Jewels. It includes about 25 pieces of knock your socks off antique laces in to die for detailed pictures. Not only are there larger size pictures, but there is also a zoom feature separately where you can look at the threads to your heart's content. Go see. http://www.gtj.org.uk/en/subjects/4773 Patty - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] lace supply store in moated castle in germany
Hi Suzy and All, I have some reels of Goldschild Linen thread which I bought from Martin Buckhard of Switzerland. The NEL 66/3 which is equivalent to 40/3 is on a 25g. reel and it says it contains 300 metres. Thats probably about 330 yards. the 80/3 (50/3) is on a reel of 50g. and is 700metres. Hope this helps, Jean in Cleveland U.K. On 6 Nov 2005, at 03:20, suzy wrote: i was hoping someone could give me a-round-about guess of how much 25 or 28 grams of thread would be in length measurments. america sizes their lengths in feet and yards and metric is in meters and what ever else there is to measure distance. i'm not very good at the metric system, although there is a formula to convert on to the other. i don't remember it, but i was taught it a few times in school. we don't use it enough for me to remember it in this part of the u.s.a.. i just wish i knew what distance i might get out of 28 grams! lol. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's about 28 grams in an ounce, so 25 grams is just under an ounce. Robin P. from suzy in tennessee,u.s.a. __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] new Thread
Hi Noelene and all, Brenda has also measured a single strand of the new DMC linen at 25 wraps per cm. and it is now on the latest addendum list, number 3 on her web site. I think that most reasonably good embroidery supply shops should carry it. Do be careful of the costs however. I received a new craft catalogue last week. It's an American firm called Herrschners. I think they must be trying to start up in this country. That is where I saw the threads offered. When I checked our local shop I found that the catalogue price was 25 pence a skein more than the shop price, unless you were willing to buy the whole range of 24 skeins. Then you have to add postage. Buyers beware! Jean in Cleveland U.K. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] new Thread
I found a nw thread the other day which may be useful if you need a touch of colour and would prefer linen. DMC are producing a range of stranded linen embroidery threads. A single strand is the same thickness as a strand of most stranded embroidery cottons. The colours are very muted which is rather nice as most coloured linens are a bit on the 'bright' side. I haven't had a chance to try any yet, will report back later, unless someone has beaten me to it? Jean in Cleveland U.K. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] General Fans Information
Hi Barbara and All, Several people have replied about fan sticks already but I would add one or two bits. Someone, (sorry I forget who) mentioned John Brooker. Sadly he no longer makes them. His were wonderful but he had health problems relating to the dust that the working caused I think. You mention that you have the pattern for a Bucks fan which you would like to make. Is it by any chance one of the Springett patterns? They published some Bucks patterns by Bridget cook as well. If so they also made fan sticks to fit. I think the sticks are still available from someone, perhaps Roseground supplies. I am sure that they will know who has them in any case and I do know that they keep some wooden one from Spain. If you write give them the depth of the leaf and also the radius from the centre of the (part) circle to the edge. Another possibility is Jenny Hester. her son makes bobbins and tatting shuttles and now Fan sticks and Jenny decorates them with pyrography and sparkly gems. As for mounting, while I have made several of the Springett patterns I always go for Ann Colliers mounting method. No pre-folding. Paint the sticks with wood glue, Evo-stick, and let it dry. Place everything on an ironing cloth, your lace arranged on top of the sticks, cover with a protective cloth and gently press the lace onto each stick in turn. If you decide to reposition anything it can be easily peeled back and repeated. I think there are more detailed descriptions of the method in most of Ann's books. Best Wishes, Jean in Cleveland U.K. On 5 Sep 2005, at 20:39, Barbara Joyce wrote: Jeri's discussion about fan museums and collections triggered a couple of questions that I've been mulling over for a while. I think I'm finally skilled enough to try a Bucks fan, for which I have the instructions, pricking, etc. (1) Do you know where I could obtain nice fan sticks? I would appreciate any recommentdations for woodworkers, and especially if anyone has a lead on mother-of-pearl fanstick makers. (2) Do they make fansticks custom-ordered to fit the size of the lace? I can't imagine how else one would be sure to get sticks the right size. (3) Are there reference publications that give instructions on how to mount the lace onto the fan sticks? Thanks for any info, Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Enlarging patterns
Good morning Tamara, Doris and all, This subject of enlarging patterns via the photocopier is one that comes up from time to time on Arachne. I regard Brenda as the expert on this but I do know that to double the size of a pattern on the photocopier I must set it at 141%. On European copiers enlarging A4 to A3 shows this in the little window. The reasons are too complex for me to explain without a lot of brain work but it is down to the fact that you are not just enlarging lengths but area. I seem to remember that there was in an OIDFA bulletin a chart produced which gave a table showing the % which patterns in different threads would need to be adjusted by, to change the thread size. Jean in Cleveland U.K. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Adhesives Blue Vanishing Pen Inks
On 31 Jul 2005, at 22:45, Jane Bawn wrote: It's quite a while since I have made any samplers but I seem to remember the recommendation was to wash them when they are finished to remove the oils and perspiration rubbed off from the hands when sewing. The same would apply to lace making. But Jane, when do you handle your lace? Your bobbins are there so that you don't touch the thread when working. you can roll the thread onto the bobbins instead of winding. You can wear a pair of cotton gloves when winding to save even that handling. (I know of at least one Devon Lace maker who does this) A lot of embroidery is done on a frame, so the fabric is not handled too much. We were taught by Elizabeth Prickett, the Ruskin Linen Embroidery expert , that although the linen is handled constantly while working the embroidery when finished it was enough to roll the piece in a damp tea cloth and leave overnight. In the morning it can be carefully pressed and most of the dirt has lifted away along with all the creases. Jean in Cleveland U.K. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Please contact privately
If Leonard Bazar is reading the list still, will you plaes contact me privately, the mail I sent got bounced back. I must have had the wrong address. Thanks and sorry to have to post this to the list. Jean in Cleveland U.K. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Bibilla class at OIDFA
Hi Annette, As someone mentioned there will be 5 courses next year in Athens during the last week of May. The weather was lovely this year, warm and sunny but still pleasant to stroll around the town in the evenings. We (the Council Members) were offered Bibilla, Cretan Bobbin Lace and Lace Mosaics. Next Year there will also be Asia Minor Embroideries, which look the same from both sides and Cretan Finger Lace, which is a type of fine macramé ( forget Sisal plant pot holders) As Jeri said because the Congress is earlier in the year this time details and booking forms will be out earlier, probably in the third bulletin for this year. The way to find out more is to join OIDFA and get the bulletins. Jean in Cleveland U.K. On 1 Jun 2005, at 23:38, Annette Meldrum wrote: Dear Jean and all, When I read about a Bibilla class being offered at OIDFA my ears pricked up. Do you have details of the classes on offer? I have not been able to find any details of classes and would be grateful for any details or direction as to where they are listed. I am hopeful of attending OIDFA for the first time. Many thanks in anticipation Annette Meldrum in warm and sunny Wollongong, NSW, Australia -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jean Barrett Sent: Wednesday, 1 June 2005 5:39 PM To: Maureen Harvey Cc: Brian Lemin; lace@arachne.com Subject: Re: [lace] Picture of a needlelace needle required Bibilla is the Greek version of the knotted needle lace found around the eastern Mediterranean. It is ine of the courses being offered at next years OIDFA Congress in Athens. Jean in Cleveland U.K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Picture of a needlelace needle required
Good morning All and Sue, Sorry, I should have explained more. Bibilla is the Greek version of the knotted needle lace found around the eastern Mediterranean. It is ine of the courses being offered at next years OIDFA Congress in Athens. Jean in Cleveland U.K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 31 May 2005, at 20:49, Maureen Harvey wrote: Jean, excuse my ignorance but what exactly is a bibllla? Sue Harvey Norfolk UK - Original Message - From: Jean Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Brian Lemin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: lace@arachne.com Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [lace] Picture of a needlelace needle required Reply , from a non needlelacer; grab an ordinary sewing needle from Jean's sewing box and take a picture. Hey Presto, a needle lace needle. I've never heard of any special needles being used, unless someone prefers ball-point needles for when they are doing the fillings. Jean in Cleveland U.K. after failing miserably at a bibllla course in Athens On 29 May 2005, at 14:16, Brian Lemin wrote: I have just discovered that I do not have a picture of a real needle lace needle (as opposed to a doll needle etc.) Can anyone send me a scan/picture of one please? Many thanks Jean and Brian from Cooranbong, Australia - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Picture of a needlelace needle required
Reply , from a non needlelacer; grab an ordinary sewing needle from Jean's sewing box and take a picture. Hey Presto, a needle lace needle. I've never heard of any special needles being used, unless someone prefers ball-point needles for when they are doing the fillings. Jean in Cleveland U.K. after failing miserably at a bibllla course in Athens On 29 May 2005, at 14:16, Brian Lemin wrote: I have just discovered that I do not have a picture of a real needle lace needle (as opposed to a doll needle etc.) Can anyone send me a scan/picture of one please? Many thanks Jean and Brian from Cooranbong, Australia - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Web address
Hi Jenny and All, Sorry about this confusion,Jenny sorted it out. If anyone is still interested and wants to look at the site, I must have been tired when I was trying to type that address. It is; http://homepage.mac.com/jeanbarrett/PhotoAlbum11.html Jean in Cleveland U.K. On 2 May 2005, at 15:23, Jenny Brandis wrote: Just toss the dot out and add the slash between jeanbarrett and PhotoAlbum11.html http://homepage.mac.com/jeanbarrett/PhotoAlbum11.html Jenny Brandis Kununurra, Western Australia At 02:03 PM 5/2/2005 +0100, Jean Barrett wrote: I think I may have printed out the web address wrongly in my last posting. Here it is again. http://homepage.mac.com/jeanbarrett.PhotoAlbum11.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.1 - Release Date: 5/2/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.1 - Release Date: 5/2/2005 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Web address
I think I may have printed out the web address wrongly in my last posting. Here it is again. http://homepage.mac.com/jeanbarrett.PhotoAlbum11.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] getting around to it
Good Afternoon All, I have at last managed to sort out a few things in answer to some questions from various people. First, I saw Anna Halikova, the organiser of the Prague OIDFA Congress last year. (She was at the Lace Guild AGM) She had with her copies of the video they have had made of the Exhibitions at the University site and the Fashion Show. Very good, and at £9 good value for money. Contact Anna for how to get one. I have completed several bits of Rosalibre lace and am rapidly becoming addicted. It is such fun to do, quite quick but requiring enough skill level to not be boring . I have a photo of the piece of lace which I had thought was Spanish but which matches the piece from Erzgebirge which was in Ilkse's article in the latest IOLI Magazine. Mine is the matching edging however. Finally, on Saturday in the newspaper magazine section I came across an advertisement for some fancy French lingerie, but it was the models bracelet which caught my eye. What do you think? All of the above are on ; http//Homepage.mac.com/jeanbarrett.PhotoAlbum11.html Jean in Cleveland U.K. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Lacemaking in Germany
Dear Ilske and all travelling Lacemakers, I would like to thank Ilske for the excellent article recently published in the IOLI Bulletin. I am sorry I have taken so long to write. For those who have not seen it Ilske has given a general overview of Lace in Germany with a map and pin pointed the most important Lace centres, with short histories and details of where to find the lace today. It was interesting to be reminded of the places in Bayern which the OIDFA tour visited when the Congress was in Frankfurt. One day I would like to go to Sachsen and see the lace of the Erzgebirge. This area was still in the East when we went there. I was specially interested in the sample of lace you show from this area Ilske. I have a piece of that design and had always put it down as being from Spain. I will now go and relabel it! Many thanks, Jean in Cleveland U.K. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: International Old Lacers
Any name change should be conscious of not conflicting with other existing organisations, particularly OIDFA which is truly international. Any one who has heard about IOLI knows that it is the American Lace Guild so what is wrong with ALGI? Jean in Cleveland U.K. On 6 Apr 2005, at 19:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BarbE wrote: What is wrong with just . International Lacers Incorporated At one point in the long tortuous discussion of this issue, someone made the thrifty suggestion that if the name were changed to International Organization of Lacers, Inc., we wouldn't have to throw away the IOLI stationary and order new. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Videos of lacemaking
The Louise Colgan Milanese video is also available in PAL format. I have it. Jean in Cleveland U.K. On 26 Mar 2005, at 22:47, Jean Nathan wrote: I believe Holly van Sciver also sells the Louise Colgan video, which I think is NTSC only. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] The New Rosa Libre book
Good morning All, Happy Easter everyone. This is the happiest Easter Bunny around. No chocolate eggs but the new book by Cathy Belleville about Rosa Libre Lace arrived from Roeground Supplies yesterday. I saw Pat last Saturday at Harrogate and asked her about the book, which she knew was on its way from America and she put one in the post as soon as it arrived. It's a lovely book with the usual meticulous diagrams and instructions. I can't wait to get started. Tamara, can you answer one question I can see I want to ask, just by reading the book. On page 14, Figure 2-24 where Cathy is giving the instructions for sewing into the roll at the centre, the diagram shows the crochet hook under both bars of the double hitch, but the subsequent diagrams show the sewing only under one. Which should it be? or is it a case of the answer will be obvious when I try it? I'm off now to finish the jobs and look out some suitable thread. Jean in Cleveland U.K. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Comments about conventions
Good morning All, I have been reading all of the comments about IOLI Conventions with interest. I was hoping that I might be able to come this year but it's not going to happen. That doesn't matter. Clay said that all the comments on Arachne have a great influence and that they are noticed by the 'Powers that Be' and others who may be thinking about going to events. I think that she is right but because of that we must make sure that anything we write is correct and not just personal opinion/preference. I have tried on several occasions to correct statements which were made about OIDFA events and I know that Elaine has done the same in the States. The organisation of events has to change from time to time, what works for one venue will not do the same in another. Which would be worse for an organisation to hear people say 'Oh I'm not going there this year, it's always the same' or 'That sounds a bit different, I'd like to try that for a change' Jean in Cleveland U.K. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] The Hummingbird
Good morning All, I have been having great fun over the last few weeks working the hummingbird patterns from Louise's video. I really have enjoyed them so much. I started with a rather pale version, (I'm a bit nervous of colour) I worked that watching the video and following step by step. Then I decided to work one in white with just metallics to highlight the braid and and see if I could remember what to do but discovered two snags. First because I didn't have any white silk I used cotton and although it was almost the same thickness as the silk it didn't pack together in the same way. Secondly, it is actually easier to work in colours as they prompt you on where to go next in the braids. I was going to cut it off but decided to plough on adn use it to see if I could remember all of the techniques. But i was enjoying myself so much I just had to make another one, this time using colours which might catch the shimmer of the hummingbird's wings. I have taken some photo's which are on; http://homepage.mac.com/jeanbarrett/PhotoAlbum10.html many thanks to Louise for the lovely patterns and to the Hensels for continuing to produce the videos. They are an invaluable resource for today's lacemakers. Now how about a Rosa Libre Video? Jean in Cleveland U.K. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] block pillow making
And if you have a 'tray' such as Bev described it makes it much easier to move the blocks around when your pattern reaches too close to the edge. Then you can keep your work in the best position on the pillow. Jean in Cleveland U.K. On 8 Mar 2005, at 04:43, Bev Walker wrote: Hi Jenny and everyone Your pillow looks super, excellent! - you might want to think of a permanent 'tray' rather than the elastic to keep the blocks in order. I have a 9-block pillow inside a wooden frame I made from thin plywood for the base, and scraps of trim from a lumber yard for the sides, a pain at the corners, because I had to sand and bevel each piece to get a nice fit - however it was worth it. The depth of the sides can be less than that of the blocks, just make the sides deep enough to contain everything. -- bye for now Bev in Sooke, BC (on ridiculously warm south Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) Cdn. floral bobbins www.woodhavenbobbins.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Barry Biggins Book
Hi Jean and All, I bought this book at last years NEC Fair. It is still available, I am sure. I am not too sure but I think I paid £10 for it. The designs are very attractive and like most of Barry's designs bits can be taken out and used in different ways. Again as the title suggests the designs can be used for all sorts of crafts not just lace. Jean in Cleveland U.K. On 2 Mar 2005, at 19:24, Jean Nathan wrote: A book by Barry Biggins is being offered on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItemrd=1item=8174587180ssPageN ame=STRK:MEWA:IT or search for item number 8174587180 described as: Book of Designs for Lace and Parchment by Barry Biggins An Alphabet with Borders and Things for bobbin lace This is the second book of patterns designed by Barry Biggins, suitable for Bobbin and Needle Lace, Embroidery, Quilting and Parchment. This book contains about 200 new designs with the prickings, along with borders, an alphabet and numbers. The book is coveniently laid out in landscape format with a metal comb bound spine which allows for easy access for copying or photocopying. The photograph is a pattern for a unicorn and the publication year is given as 2004. Did a google, searched Chrysalis books, Amazon, Roseground Supplies, SMP Lace, etc but couldn't find anything other than New Patterns in Honiton Lace by Caroline and Barry Biggins, which this isn't. Anyone got any information on this. Jean in Poole - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Webshots
Lace Express is expensive for a pattern magazine which might not have anything that interests you. like Tamara I subscribed for one year then dropped out. In Prague however there was a supplier from Spain, sorry I cannot remember their names, and they carried lots of back issues. They were at the NEC last December as well. Perhaps they also go to Lace events in Europe. I picked up about 3 single issues which all had several patterns which I liked. Much cheaper than a subscription and better than the web site as there you cannot see the patterns apart from the cover one. Jean in Cleveland U.K. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] lace exhibits in London?
Hello Sally, As someone mentioned a little while ago, the Embroidery and Lace galleries at the V A seem to be closed at the moment. It would be worth phoning to ask, although there are costume galleries which include lace. The best 'shop' I know for antique lace is Ann Swift's stall in Portabello Road market on Saturday mornings. Stall no. 1 I think. Jean in Cleveland U.K. On 17 Feb 2005, at 03:32, Sally Kathryn Nuttall wrote: Hello all! An eBay-seller friend of mine is going to be in London for 2 weeks beginning at the very end of April. she recently bought Elizabeth Kurella's Guide to Lace and Linens, and wants to learn more about lace, so she's planning a trip to the VA and hopes that there will be some lace that she can study. I promised I'd ask the group here if they had any other recommendations for places to go. She said If anyone in your group knows a good lace museum in the greater London area, I'd love to hear about it. There are so many small museums that I've never heard of. Or a shop that specialized in antique laces. Or even out of London--we are planning a few day trips out of London. To Winchester and the like. Suggestions, anyone? Thanks, Kathryn __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Yet another wire variation of 2 Pair Invention #4
Hi Patricia, I love your new invention, it's very attractive. You say that it is not stiff enough. Since you added the beads after you had finished, you could try rolling the lace before you beaded. Place the lace between two sheets of kitchen paper and roll over it a couple of times with your rolling pin. This 'tempers' the wire and makes it stiffer. Then you could go on to add the beads. It may be worth a try. Jean in Cleveland U.K. , slowly getting over the jet lag. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: Is it a rib
Hi Tamara, Congratulations on the new braid, I hope it does turn out as a new one, it's always exciting when a 'mistake' turns out not bad at all. Have you also checked in Rudmilla Zuman's book which was published in Prague last summer. She had some new braids. I am sorry I cannot find my copy at the moment. It seems as if it has gone an it's holidays and since we are going later today I haven't time to look for it! Jean in Cleveland U.K. On 23 Jan 2005, at 00:58, Tamara P. Duvall wrote: Yours, in frozen, sleet and snow covered Lextropolis, where I might have just invented another Milanese braid. I need to confirm that nothing *quite* like it is in my Milanese Bible (Old and New Testament, aka Milanese Lace; An Introduction and New Braids and Designs in Milanese Lace by P. Read and L. Kincaid). I'm pretty sure there isn't, even though, when I first started twiddling, I meant to use Crossover 1 (Intro). But now, it's made differently, and it looks different... -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] honiton questions
Hi Janice, As others have already explained, when sewing in for a filling in Honiton you sew your pairs into the side of the pin holes (top sewings) whether there is a plain edge or a rolled one. You are working from the back in honiton lace so the effect that you are aiming for is for the edge of the filling to disappear behind the edge of the motif. Jean in Cleveland U.K. On 20 Jan 2005, at 20:01, Janice Blair wrote: I have a question regarding doing fillings in honiton. Where you have a piece that is surrounded by a rib which faces in both directions how do you do the sewings for the filling? - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: Translation ? Polish
I have had a quick look in the International Lace Dictionary and cannot find the word 'pitsipulgad' in any of the languages that are included. In Finnish there are 2 words pitsinpatka and pitsipatja which mean strip of lace and lace pillow respectively. Jean in Cleveland U.K. On 12 Jan 2005, at 23:04, Tamara P. Duvall wrote: On Jan 12, 2005, at 1:10, Brian Lemin wrote: pitsipulgad Can anyone translate this word for me please? Not anyone from Poland g That's Finnish, I think, or maybe Estonian; I recognize pitsi (lace) but nothing else... -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Milanese DVD
Many Thanks to all who replied to my query about Louise Colgan's Milanese Video/DVD. I did realise about the different systems we have on our side of the pond, and think that I specified an 'all regions' system when I bought my new machine, but haven't tested it yet. Kathy Hensel was kind enough to reply to me adn while they hope to have someone in UK supply them they can take Sterling cheques so have asked for the UK price and will probably order direct. Jean in Cleveland U.K. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Milanese Lace DVD
Hi Barbara, He is lovely, (in those colours I think it is a 'He') Well done. To tackle Milanese and colour together for a first attempt is very brave. Now where can I get that Video? best Wishes, Jean in Cleveland U.K. On 9 Jan 2005, at 18:26, Barbara Joyce wrote: I wanted to share my enthusiasm for Louise Colgan's new production on Milanese Lace (also available on VHS tape). All one needs to be successful in this class is a basic knowledge of cloth stitch. Absolutely every step and detail of the procedures are demonstrated and clearly shown. I consider myself an intermediate lacemaker, but there were several basic lacemaking techniques that were so beautifully demonstrated, that I learned a great deal about bobbin lace techniques in general. I'd never done any Milanese lace, so the beautiful braids and ways to manipulate the colors to get them where you want them were fascinating to me. The best part is that one can be almost guaranteed success by following along. And of course, you can stop, rewind, replay, etc., until you know exactly what you're doing, then stop the program while you do it. It's like having your own private teacher, with infinite patience to demonstrate something over and over, until you get it. :-) Here's my class project: http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/hummingbird.jpg Not bad for a first attempt! Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA, USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: Floral torchon questions
Good morning All, The tremendous gales which lifted a large number of our roof tiles have died down today so I feel I can turn my mind to the question of Floral Torchon. Geraldine Stott is not the only designer. In La Encajera No 14 (the handkerchief edition) there is a very pretty handkie designed by Bridget Cook and another one by Lia Baumeister-Jonker whioh are both really 'Floral' Torchon. Bridgets pattern uses 60 cotton and n08 perle fro the gimp but no threads are specified for Lias pattern Jean in Cleveland U.K. On 9 Jan 2005, at 01:15, Tamara P. Duvall wrote: On Jan 8, 2005, at 2:56, Alice Howell wrote (in response to Jackie's questions): 1.In floral torchon, other than using linen thread and thick silk gimp threads is there anything to differentiate floral torchon from regular torchon? 2. Are there any floral torchon patterns other than G. Stott's? - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] aficot?
Good morning Jo, Clay, Tamara and All, Lenka advised us at the workshop I took with her to flatten the finished wire piece using a rolling pin as you mentioned Tamara. The lace and the pin are protected with a piece of kitchen paper. However these pieces of lace had the beads added afterwards. You cannot flatten beads in this way. The Aficot is a sort of long, shallow 's' shape with one end carved to a point and the other quite bulbous which fits in the palm of your hand so that you can exert pressure on the other end. As Clay said they are used to 'finish' needle lace. Lobster claws were said to be the original of the design. I used kitchen paper to protect things. Although the rolling does flatten the wires it also hardens them and the lace becomes stiffer. Its worth doing to a small piece to see if you like the effect. Jean in Cleveland U.K. On 28 Dec 2004, at 12:39, J.Falkink-Pol wrote: Jean Barrett What is a horn aficot? I didn't find it in the dictionary. Jo Faklink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] new Zealand visit
I will be going to New Zealand in mid January, staying in Auckland and wondered if there was anything lace related i the area between then and mid February. Are there any NZ bobbin makers? Jean in Cleveland U.K. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Emery Powder Pin Cushion
Dear Jeri, Is this right? Synthetics hold moisture more than wool? Most peoples experiences of washing, (we all have to do some at some time) will have found that our synthetic clothes, nylon polyester etc. will dry much more quickly than wool or cotton. They do not seem to absorb moisture from the air as wool can. Can I suggest one more fabric for the inner of an emery pin cushion. That is pillow ticking, designed to keep the very fine down inside pillows. Jean in Cleveland U.K. On 30 Nov 2004, at 15:39, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/30/04 3:14:13 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A felt lining works well for me - it keeps the emery powder inside and makes the cushion more comfortable to use when pushing in the pins. Dear Lacemakers (especially those new to such things), A reminder when using felt for pin cushions - the felt *must be made of wool*. If it is a synthetic felt, it will hold moisture and that will damage pins left in it. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lacemakers fair and currency
The method of processing cards suggested by Brenda is the one Barbara Fey uses when she is away from home, ie) in Prague. She wrote all of the details down and then processed the payment when she got back. I think she must have had several days worth of work after the Congress, but it seemed to work well. Jean in Cleveland U.K. On 29 Nov 2004, at 22:48, Brenda Paternoster wrote: On Nov 28, 2004, at 10:38 pm, Janice Blair wrote: I alway use my bank card when travelling for getting cash. There is usually one at the airport even if you have to search a bit for it. If there is a vendor that you particularly want to buy from check if they have a web site and whether they take credit cards. I know on my first visit to the NEC I quickly ran out of cash but that was yearsa ago and I think more vendors are taking plastic than before. At the last lace day I went to Tim Parker was saying that that's likely to change from next year when pin chip applies to all cards because the traders will need to invest in pin and chip readers, and many of the smaller businesses (of the type that attend lace days, craft fairs etc) will find it uneconomic to do so. He did say that he would continue to accept plastic as though it were mail/telephone order - ie he'll write down your card number then process it on the old machine when he gets home, but he would prefer cash or cheque. Brenda http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/paternoster/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: lace-digest V2004 #370
Hi Faye, This is the same museum that Elaine spoke about, just the two different spellings of the twon name. One is Flemish one French. Many towns in Belgium have this, as in Brugge, Bruges. Jean in Cleveland U.K. On 27 Nov 2004, at 06:33, Faye Owers wrote: Hi Elaine, There is also the National Flax Museum in Kortrijk, a short train trip from Brugge. It is a very pleasant experience, as they also have some beautiful lace and costumes displayed in the Museum. Regards Faye Owers Shearwater Tasmania Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 11:27 AM Subject: [lace] Re: lace-digest V2004 #370 In a message dated 11/17/2004 5:01:24 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've also heard that the specially cultivated long thin flax varieties were lost when farmers stopped growing them. So, even a hobbyist can not, today, grow a patch of it for self use. Lacemakers who visit Belgium should put the Flax Museum on a list of important places to visit. This museum is in the city of Courtrai, an important market town west of Brussels . There you can see the entire historic process of making linen thread, starting with large scale pictures of women and children on their hands and knees sowing the tiny flax seeds. The plants were indeed planted close to each other and staked in order for them to grow tall. Only tall plants were allowed to grow-- small ones were removed, so there was a gradual culitvation of taller plants. When the stalks were harvested, they were 'retted' , that is, soaked in the river Lis that runs through that part of the country, The river water is said to have the perfect qualities to soften the fibers. After soaking, the stalks are beaten to remove the hard outer covering and soften the. inner parts, Alll these procedures are depicted in tableau scenes of life-size figures of workers dressed in authentic old clothing.using antique tools. The scenes show exactly how the flax fibers are turned into rope, cords, and finally the very fine thread for making lace. Elaine Merritt The Lace Museum 552 South Murphy Avenue Sunnyvale, CA 94086 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] lace thread
Hi Jennie, I think that Knox's must have ceased trading in the 1960's sometime. I certainly bought their threads then from a regular supplier.. The Lace Guild very oftern has small quantities of old thread for sale at the AGM. It's alwasy worth looking Jean in Cleveland U.K. On 25 Nov 2004, at 18:16, Jenny Barron wrote: sorry ladies and gents my finger slipped and the email I was writing got sent before I wrote it! I spotted these lots (in both senses) of linen thread on ebay. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItemrd=1item=8148271405ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItemrd=1item=8148409738ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT I was thinking about bidding but the quantity of thread is more than I will ever use. What I was wondering is how long ago did this firm go out of business? jenny barron Scotland UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lace parasols
Good morning All, Ann Colliers book 'Colour in Lace' has several ideas for parasol covers and how to design them, in several different types of lace I seem to remember. Worth looking at for inspiration if it doesn't put you off. I think that is what happened to me; my parasol is still waiting for it's new cover. One day perhaps. Jean in Cleveland U.K. On 23 Nov 2004, at 15:27, Andrea Lamble wrote: Hi All, I have recently been lucky enough to purchase (from ebay) a couple of dainty antique parasols, with heavily rotted/damaged silk covers, but with perfect working frames. I am now in the process of removing the old fabric and making templates to recover the frames in new silk. My plan is to make a lace outer for each of them (eventually) and can't decide whether to try and design my own patterns from scratch or base them on an existing motifs? Do I make all sections the same or do I try and design the lace so that each section is different? Oh decisions decisions!! and oh for more free time - sometimes think there should be more hours in the day and days in the week to fit in all the things I would like to do. Has anyone out there done this sort of thing before and do you have any tips to pass on? Hopefully I'll be able to post some progress photos on the web in due course. Happy lacing to one and all, from, Andrea in a somewhat dull Cambridge (UK). _ Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Springett collection auction
On 20 Nov 2004, at 12:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I have spent a bit of time looking at the catalogue today. There are soome beautifull bobbins for sale. By now you will all be aware of my opinion that the so called lace makers lamps are a generic term that has been given to oil lamps. I agree with you about the beautiful bobbins and the prices, but I think that you are a bit wrong on the 'lacemakers' lamps. They are not and were not oil lamps. The globe stands alone in front of a candle or other light source to magnify the light. The candle stool had places fro several globes all sharing the light from one candle. I have a picture in a German book which shows lace makers from the Erzegeburg (sp?) during the war working with a water globe in front of an oil lamp. Although they tend now to be all called lace makers lamps I think that they must have been widely used by anyone who needed extra light for reading, writing etc before the days of oil or electric light Jean in Cleveland U.K. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] New book info
Good morning All, here is the information about the book 'Ma's Lace' which I have been able to find. It is about the War Lace produced in Belgium during the first world War. the book has been printed privately by the family in small numbers. (We have been trying to tell them that there would be a lot of interest and they should print more) What are left is available from Mr. Kerry Brooksbank, Church Lane Farm, Vicarage Lane, Dore, Sheffield. S17 3GY. It is priced at £15 plus postage. Tel 0114 2365 248 Jean in Cleveland U.K. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] fine linen thread -- history
On 17 Nov 2004, at 19:47, Alice Howell wrote: In my reading and study of lace history, the commercial viability of very fine linen thread was lost in 1790 when the cotton gin was developed, making cotton thread commercially viable and much cheaper to produce than the linen. The linen supplies that were already in the warehouses were used up by 1830. After that, the only extremely fine threads available were silk, and later, manmade fibers. Hi Alice, While the development of the cotton gin undoubtabley enabled fine cottons to be spun it didn't kill out fine linens quite as immediately as you say. I bought Fine linen DMC threads (150, 200, 300) in the 1960's. Likewise I have fine linen hanks from Harris of Cockermouth which date probably from the 1930's, and Knox's linen was produced until the 1960's I think and I have 150/2, 300/2 reels from them. Jean in Cleveland U.K. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] new Book
Good morning All, I received a new Lace book yesterday, which anyone who is interested in the history of Lace might like. It is called, The Story of Ma's Laces, 1914-1918. Her response to the trauma of wartime. it is written by Carol and Kerry Brooksbank and is the story of their Grandmothers experiences during the first world war which led her to the making of the most expressive and unique laces depicting war themes. One of the most famous of these is the portrait of King Albert I of Belgium aiming his rifle in the trenches. The ISBN is 0-901100-54-4 and cost £15. The Ma of the title was Loise Lienaux Vergauwe. The book was written by her daughter Yvonne Brooksbank Liuneax and completed and prepared for publication by her daughters Carol and Kerry. Itt contains a short outline of the different types of lace, examples of the lace which 'Ma' made while learning the craft and good photos of the various 'war' laces, in some cases showing the drawings/paintings which she took for inspiration. At the end there are photos of the 'pin cloths'(Prickings) which were used. The lace is now in the permanent collection at the Museum of costume and Textiles in Brussels and can be seen on request. Jean in Cleveland U.K. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] mail
Hi All, I have been away for 3 days and returned to find no new e-mails. Is this right? Jean in Cleveland UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Pattern Issue
Hi Evelynn, I think that DMC Retors d'Alsace 60/2 is no longer made, so you will need a substituate unless you can find some old stock. In Brenda's book 'Threads for Lace' it is given as 46 wraps per cm. The nearest Egyptian cotton will be the 70/2. Cotton always works up much softer than linen but there are no linens as fine as this being made any more. I know that in one of their book samples Bridget and Geraldine did use a cotton called Unity 150 which was a white machine thread which makes beautiful crisp lace. Again that is no longer available but Jennifer and John Ford of the UK have an equivalent, Dragonfly 140. Jean in Cleveland U.K. On 27 Oct 2004, at 05:59, Evelynn McCain wrote: Dear List: I subscribed to the lace chat. I got many helpful responses and many suggestions that I pose my questions to the list instead. I am a self-taught lacemaker. I have been making lace (off and on) for about 10 years. I am trying to make a piece of lace from 100 Traditional BOBBIN LACE PATTERNS BY Geraldine Stott and Bridget Cook. I tried to order the correct threads (DMC Retors d'Alsace No. 60 and Coats cotton a broder, No. 18) from the Lacemaker in Ohio. I was told they are not available and that Egyptian Cotton 60/2 and Pearl cotton 8 would work. I ordered them and began working the Bride on page 37. I am disappointed that cotton doesn't seem to hold its shape well. The obvious solution would be to use linen thread, but I want bright white for a bridal handkerchief. I am more concerned that the lace doesn't look like it would hold together well. Have any of you made lace using the patterns in this book? What thread did you use? Does anyone know of a source for Retors d'Alsace? I thought a found an error in the pattern, which has been confirmed. Do you know if there are errors in other patterns in this book? Thank you so much for your help. Evelynn - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] RE: Thank God - IT IS DONE!!!
Hi Sylvia, Wonderful work, Sylvia. Keep up the lacing. That wonderful bright sunlight must help a lot, although in the time it took for you to finish the mat you must have been working by moonlight as well. Jean in Cleveland U.K. On 26 Sep 2004, at 06:17, palmhaven wrote: Dear Spiders, I just finished Miss Channer's Mat. Tricky little devil. You can see it and some of my other finished projects on my web site http://home.earthlink.net/~palmhaven/ I beg your patience the pictures load vry sllloooly. Sylvia Deep in Tropical Texas - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] What is Stumpwork?
Hi Jean, Just go ahead and do what you want to do. Nothing would progress if somebody hadn't tried it first. But if my memory serves me correctly, there was some machine embroidery in the Myth and Mystery exhibition; was there actually a class for it? I am pretty sure Deborah Robinson entered some. If it upsets someone just don't call it stumpwork when you talk to them. Ask them what they would call it. take care , Jean in Cleveland U.K. (still recovering from the rigours of a Czech OIDFA tour.) On 2 Sep 2004, at 10:32, Jean Peach wrote: I thought I would ask this question, why? Well I am interested in Stumpwork, have done one or two pieces, passed basic C G Stumpwork. I was thinking that I would do machine embroidery and painted background, with raised objects, whatever it might be, plus some lace pieces. Now I am being told that this is not right I am doing something that was not done during the period that Stumpwork was made in England. Why not? Surely we need to progress with what ever we are doing, not stand still. The person I was speaking to was more upset about machine embroidery, why not, why does all the embroidery have to be done by hand, yes I have done part of the C G machine embroidery, this is what gave me the idea. Well don't put it in a lace exhibition it will not be accepted. So do I then do a design I have been thinking about and join the embroiderers guild? I am not writing this to upset anyone, I would like to know where I stand. Jean in Newbury - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] RPL Circular Mat
Dear Sulochona, Your latest Romanian mat is stunning. What delightful colours, and the filings are lovely. Keep up the good work. Jean in Cleveland U.K. On 31 Aug 2004, at 15:43, Chaudhuri wrote: Dear Lace Friendds, On my travels between Ranchi and Bokaro (where my husband is now posted) I have really enjoyed making another Romanian Point lace from Angela's lovely book. RPL certainly travels well ! Tell me what you think. The URL is http://community.webshots.com/user/sulochona Best wishes Sulochona [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] copyright/photographs
Good morning All, This subject seems to involve so many twists and turns but just two points stick me. Someone (sorry I can't remember who and I accidentally deleted your message when I was trying to highlight a quote) said that people wouldn't design/create new patterns if they didn't think they could profit from them. That may be true in the 'outside' commercial world but yet again I am sure does not apply to Lacemaking. Even people who manage to publish books do not make a living wage out of them, when you consider the years it takes to prepare, design and make samples of all of the work. The vast majority of new lace designs are made just because we feel the urge nad if friends like them we give them a copy and perhaps send them to our Lace guild magazine. One the recent OIDFA tour we visited many museums and galleries. In some we were allowed to take photographs in others not. (It sometimes changed with the groups going round) This was particularly strict in the various schools we visited. People didn't appreciate that we wanted photos to show the folks back home what kind of lace was being made, not to copy the designs. I was goign to put some of my pictures up on the web today but now I'm not so sure. Jean in Cleveland U.K. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] 16th century bobbin on ebay???
Hi Clay and All, This bobbin is very similar in shape to one of the bobbins recovered from the 'Batavia' ship wreck off Australia. It was a Dutch ship wrecked off the west coast of Australia in 1629, so the bobbins were older than that. They were featured on an Australian stamp some years ago and Kleinhout make reproductions of them. It would be interesting to see if there is a Dutch connection to this bobbin. Jean in Cleveland U.K. On 13 Aug 2004, at 21:56, Clay Blackwell wrote: Hello Spiders! I came across the following on ebay today: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItemcategory=114item=6112829488 Now, I must say I'm VERY skeptical. (1) 16th century? says who?? This is an awfully sophisticated turning for a bobbin used in an art form which was merely decades old at the time. (2) for a dug bobbin, the sharp edges of the turnings are awfully crisp and clean... (3) dug from *where*??? this bobbin doesn't look like anything I'm familiar with from way back... Should we launch an email offensive to the seller??? (devilish vbg). Clay Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Help with paisley edging?
Hi Tamara, When I first read your request fro Paisley patterns my thoughts went back to an edging I saw in the Exhibition at Northampton a few years ago. There was a most spectacular Paisley Point Ground edging there. I did look in the pattern book they produced but it's not in. Then I remembered that it must have used at least 100 pairs of bobbins, so probably not quite what you wanted. Actually I have just found it in the catalogue which came with the exhibition. It is the Paisley Pear, which someone else has mentioned. It's over 10 inches wide, so we'll say no more. There are a couple of point ground prickings in the back of the OIDFA Point Ground Lace study book which are vaguely paisley-ish, the ones from Pecna Cipka and Tonder perhaps? Jean in Cleveland U.K. On 12 Aug 2004, at 00:26, Tamara P. Duvall wrote: Gentle Spiders, I have recently bought a dress - very pretty, and fits well, but with a somewhat too sexy plunge down the front (how come I didn't notice, when I was trying it on, that the bra is apt to peek, when I move?). So I thought to make some lace for it, and kill a whole flock of birds with one stone: the decolletage diminished and softened a bit, some time spent at my pillow on something for fun not for publication, and a chance to wear a piece of hand- and home- made lace... The fabric of the dress is printed with all kinds of stylised flowers and paisley-like leaves. So I thought the lace edging should pick up on that, especially since I'm very fond of paisleys. But I've looked and looked, through most of my books, and can't find a suitable pattern... :( I suspect, such a pattern would - likely - be of a more modern vintage, while most of those I have are reproductions/reconstructions of older ones. Maybe someone here can help. I'm looking for an *existing* pattern (pricking and photo of finished lace; diagram would be nice, but not strictly necessary. I hope g) of an edging with a clear paisley/leaf (or feather) shape. It has to be continuous lace, PG by preference (the fabric is silk georgette; the lace needs to be fine, to match that). Continental PG by double preference, but, I suppose, I can always flip the pricking if someone comes up with a Bucks one (I'm cack-handed at left-hand-side picots). It has to be fairly simple - 25-35 pairs. I'll need a fair amount of it, and it's not a dress I'd like to wear in my coffin... :) I want *scallops in the headside*, so please do not suggest insertions, or laces with a picoted but straight edge (why go to the trouble of making picots on a straight edge, anyway? I always change those to insertions, with footsides on both sides g). The fat part of a paisley/leaf/feather would make a nice scallop, I'm sure, the skinny part adding interest to the rest... I've found a few maybe-s, but they all would need adjusting, and I'd as soon not; if I had the time and the will to tamper, I might as well try designing from scratch. Years ago, someone sent me a clipping from a magazine, about a Bayeux lacemaker, and the photo had just the thing in it, and I loved the pattern. But there was no pricking to it (of course not; it wasn't a *lace* magazine g) and, anyway, I can't find it anymore... Yours, hopeful, --- Tamara P Duvall http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) Healthy US through The No-CARB Diet: no C-heney, no A-shcroft, no R-umsfeld, no B-ush. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Possible Downton bobbins
Hi Jean, Could these be Devon Trolly bobbins? I think that Downtons are just plain, thin sticks with a short head (they used fine cotton) and no shaping to the bobbin. jean in Cleveland U.K. On 29 Jul 2004, at 10:39, Jean Nathan wrote: I have just acquired some bobbins at what I think is a silly low price. I suggested the seller put them on ebay, but he said he'd be quite satisfied if I paid what he was asking. There are 56 Bucks thumpers, two oddities and 12 of what I think are Downton bobbins. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Rising lace
Good morning All, back from Prague, (minus luggage at the moment) and trying to catch up on all of the discussion, I have been intrigued by the many solutions to the problem of lace which rises up off the pricking. I have a feeling that part of the problem is the length of thread which different workers use from the lace to the bobbin and the type of pillow being used. On a flat pillow with largish continental bobbins which tend to have a big heads, if the length of free thread is too short, the angle of the thread from the pillow to the bobbin can be quite steep. I think that this tends to lift the lace up to make a straight line. Lengthen the thread and this angle will be reduced and the lace will stay flat. many workers seem reluctant to work with longer threads thinking that they are more likely to tangle, but that does not happen. Any comments? Jean in Cleveland U.K. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Devon Trolly Lace book
Good morning all, As promised a couple of days ago I have checked with Carol who has written and published this book and can now give you all the following details. The title is 'Devon trolly Lace', the lost lace of the East Devon Coast, by Carol McFadzean. ISBN 0-9547683-0-2 . Published by the author price £16.50 . Carol will post copies. please add £2-50 in UK, £3-50 for Europe and £6-00 for the rest of the world. Cheques in GBP. (pounds sterling) only. Sheila Perrin of SMP supplies may have copies in September. The address to write to is, Mrs. C. McFadzean,Barn Cottage, Broadway, Woodbury, EXETER, Devon . EX51NY. e-mail. [EMAIL PROTECTED] As Sonja said previously, the book gives the history of a find at the Woodbury village school of a Lace dealers bag containing over 700 samples of lace. 40 of the patterns have been recreated in this first book, most of them are point ground laces. My copy only arrived this morning so I'm going to read it now! Jean in Cleveland U.K. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] New book Devon Trolly Lace
Good morning Faye and All, Carol's book about East Devon Trolly Lace is self published and available from Carol herself. I will ask her if she would mind having her address published or her e-mail, also whether any of the usual suppliers will be carrying it. She will be going to Prague shortly, (she is one of the UK Council members`) but I will try to get the info. to you as soon as I can. Jean in Cleveland U.K. (waiting for my copy by post) On 27 Jun 2004, at 23:20, Faye Owers wrote: Dear Sonja and fellow lacemakers, Is this book available to the general public yet? Do you know the publisher? Thanks in advance Faye Owers Shearwater Tasmania Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Kant Kwartaal
Hi Bev, I have or, it seems had that magazine. I think that I must have passed it on, as I can only find the pattern now. I have one copy of the magazine though dated february 1992. and I think the strawbeey pattern would be from one just beforee or after that. I think that I subscribed for a year at the OIDFA Utrecht congress. On looking through the magazine I cannot see any credits on any of the patterns. The Editor is Jolanda de Boer-Van Nes and the editorial address is Linja, Postbus 3016, 2301 DA Leiden. The Netherlands. Obviously this is more than 10 years old but could be a starting point for you. Jean in Cleveland U.K. On 8 Jun 2004, at 17:07, Bev Walker wrote: Hi everyone Does anyone know of the publication Kant Kwartaal? It would have been published in The Netherlands probably in the 1970s. I would like to find out who designed a particular pattern called Aardbei , a mat with strawberries going around it. I have the pattern pages, but alas no date on them, not even in the colofon, and no names credited. Thanks if anyone has any info. -- bye for now Bev in Sooke, BC (west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Cleveland Lace Guild
Good morning All, here in Cleveland (UK) we are continuing to enjoy lovely warm weather. Just right for a Lace Day and Saturday 12th June is our 25th. All are most welcome of course. E-mail me for directions if you need them, but it also sees the publication of our new Pattern book. I have posted details on our web site www.communigate.co.uk/ne/clevelandlaceguild There are details here about a reprint of our tablecloth squares booklet as well. I think that the recent report in the IOLI bulletin from the Finger-lakes Guild who made one has stirred interest in that again. Prices are in £ Stirling I am sorry, but we could be open to negotiation. Contact me privately. Jean in Cleveland U.K. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Prague
Hi Margot, I can make lunch Sunday for an Arachne 'meet'. Can't do breakfasts as I'm not staying on campus and like you have Council lunch on Saturday. Jean in Cleveland U.K. On 6 Jun 2004, at 21:58, Margot Walker wrote: What's happened to the idea of an Arachne get-together in Prague. I think Elaine was gathering the names. I suggest breakfast or lunch on Sun. (That's a purely selfish suggestion, since I'm trying to get Canadians together for breakfast on Sat., and there's a working lunch for Council members on Sat.) Margot Walker in Halifax on the east coast of Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] RE: Le Pompe
Hi Marie, The patterns in 'Le Pompe' don't look much like to-days patterns because they're not. They are some of the oldest patterns ever published and both the style of lace and the method of drawing patterns has changed over the last 4 centuries. If you get ho;d of a copy of the book already mentioned published by Ruth Bean you will find some patterns redrawn to make them workable by todays methods. Another alternative is 'Elizabethan Lace' by Gill Dye which has some patterns based on the 'Le Pompe' patterns. Most tend to be mainly plaits making edgings designed to be attached onto clothes and furnishings rather than on edges. Jean in Cleveland U.K. On 26 May 2004, at 13:59, Mary Robi wrote: Hello Arachne's, In my thirst for lace knowedge, I've been reading the histories of lace and have seen mentioned in several places (web sites and books) the pattern book Le Pompe. I've seen a few patterns here and there, but not translated into anything that really looks like today's patterns I've searched all the book sites I know of and the book is apparently out of print. Do any of you know where I can get patterns from the book, or where I might get a copy? Have the patterns from the book been interpreted and translated into patterns that are familier to us today? I've seen pictures, drawings really from the book, but it wasn't in a form I could understand as a pattern. Any help with this would be greatly appreciated. Mary _ Best Restaurant Giveaway Ever! Vote for your favorites for a chance to win $1 million! http://local.msn.com/special/giveaway.asp - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] lace-exhibition and new website
Hi Liduina and All, What a lovely site. I have only just now had time to take a proper look at it. There was a lovely surprise waiting fro me as well. In the Vitrine which is in the Hotel de Ville I recognised my design for the Christmas candles. What a thrill. It is well worth sending patterns to magazines, when you find that at least one other lacemaker thinks your pattern worth recreating. Thank you. Jean in Cleveland U.K. On 16 May 2004, at 07:28, Liduina wrote: Hello everyone, Our lace group celebrated his 20th anniversary last week and on this occasion we had a lace exhibition. We also opened a little website to present our group, which sort of lace we make, our activities and the history of lace in our town (Ath in Belgium), it's only in french but there are also many pictures. The pictures of our exhibition also are on the site : www.athdentelle.be . It's the very beginning of the site and we have to add some more informations on it, so we'd be very pleased if you have some advices to ameliorate it. Liduina from a sunny Ath in Belgium. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace](Branscombe Point and) Tape laces
Good morning All, One of the things that nobody seems to have mentioned in the Branscombe/Battenburg saga is that, from what I have seen, Branscombe Tape is narrower and finer, and has no gathering thread along the edges. You have to either ease the tape round corners or put in a gathering thread yourself. Battenburg tape is much coarser and has a loose thread along each edge which you can gather up to help you to make the tape fit the pattern. I am not sure if this is solely a modern development but it does seem to be the case now. Jean in Cleveland U.K. On 13 May 2004, at 17:01, Clay Blackwell wrote: Hi Liz - I agree with you that Branscombe Point and Battenberg are different, - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Needlepins
Good morning All, If you are in the market to buy a needle pin can I share with you my experience. When I started Honiton lace, many moons ago, I bought a simple, Springetts, wooden job. Very nice. Found it almost impossible to use. Like Leonard I tried a few times until I'd thoroughly mashed up the pinhole and the thread and then resorted to a hook. Some time later I treated myself to a lovely bone handled model. Got to be better, Yes? No. After years of struggling and mixed results I went back to my wooden model and found no problems. I found that the bone one had a thick, about a quarter inch base where the pin was inserted and this stopped me getting at the right angle to the sewing. The Wooden one tapered into the pin, so that the handle was almost an extension of the pin. Something to look out for when you do buy. It can be used for other fine laces as well. Duchesse and Milanese come to mind. Jean in Cleveland U.K. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Braid lace/tape lace
Hi Jacquie, Remember that Branscombe was made at first with bobbin made tape, which was then sewn down and filled with needle fillings. Quicker to make than the complex honiton motifs. Jean in Cleveland U.K. On 11 May 2004, at 11:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am in the middle of writing a short explanation of what braid lace is. In the process I am trying to add a brief translation between US and English language (in the same way as I do for cloth stitch -ctc- and whole stitch - either ctc or ctct depending on where you are/been taught by) so people can be aware that they have to be conscious of which language they are reading. I was always been taught that laces such as Russian and Milanese are braid laces and some of the fillings are done with plaits. Tape lace is a machine made tape tacked onto the pattern and secured with sewing and needle made fillings. However, since I have been exposed to American terminology on Arachne I have been very aware that as you refer to plaits (in lace and hair) as braids, it is necessary that you refer to the hand made edges as tapes. So, my question is, what generic term do you normally use to describe what I would think of as a tape lace to make it clear that it is not hand made bobbin lace but a mix of machine tape and needlelace? Many thanks, Jacquie - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Magazine costs
Hello Everyone, I have been interested to read of the costs of the Spanish magazine l'Encaje. I haven't subscribed for quite a time, but wonder if a lot of the increase is due to post charges? I was quite shocked when I went to our local post office yesterday to price the cost of posting a pattern book our Guild is producing. It is some 25 pages long in a plastic binder. For the UK the cost of postage will be 75p., into Europe about £1.50 and fro American and the rest of the world almost £2.50. Since the projected cost of the booklet is £6 the postage will add a considerable amount to the cost. The Spanish publication I know uses a lot of heavy card to print the patterns so that must add a lot to the postage. Jean in Cleveland U.K. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Fwd: [lace-chat] Prague
From: Janice Blair [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: May 2, 2004 14:09:34 EDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [lace-chat] Prague Reply-To: Janice Blair [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am going to be in Prague in June, unfortunately too early for OIDFA, but I would like to ask a question about currency. Will the Euro be in use or will it still be crowns? Good morning All, It will definitely still be crowns in Prague, although like many popular tourist areas there will be places/shops who will accept anything legal. As I understand things ATM's are not as common as we are used to in this country or the USA, so some currency to start might be useful. I was told that travellers cheques were difficult as they had to be changed at Banks and finding one when you need one and when they are open is always a problem. Hope this helps, Jean in Cleveland U.K.. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Fine threads
Good morning All, On the subject of fine threads; I was at the Lace Guild AGM in Scarborough, North Yorks. ( remember Scarborough Fair?) last weekend and I found on the sales table a reel of Knox's Linen Lace thread size 350/2! It doesn't appear in Brenda's book, so I've sent her a sample. Now the problem is, what do I do with the other 196 yards? Was this the thread which was used for honiton, before cotton was widely available. I am not sure when Knox's was in business. That could be a useful addition to the threads book if those which are not now available had their dates of production noted. It was a lovely weekend, the sun shone, it was warm and the cliffs were covered in wild primroses in full bloom. Jean in Cleveland U.K. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Finca cotton thread
Hi Rikki and All, Yes I used Finca recently for Carolinas' Arachne spider pattern and it is super. Barbara Underwood is recommending it for Bedfordshire Lace now, as it is so smooth and 'clean' In the UK 'Roseground' Lace supplies are stocking it in several sizes. Jean in Cleveland .U.K. On 26 Apr 2004, at 22:08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got some Finca cotton thread from Biggins the other day and I think it is a beautiful thread to work with, so easy to keep a neat tension. Has anyone else tried this thread? I think this is a thread I shall be using a lot. I believe Biggins are importing it from Spain and I've certainly not seen it anywhere else in the UK. I took a peek at their website too and the coloured Finca threads look great if you're into colour. Best wishes Rikki - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: Ithaca Lace Day
Good morning All, Oh how I wish I could join you all at Ithaca, although I would have to come a great deal further than Tamara even. her description of Rosa Libre and the name Cathy Bellevile would decide that as number one on my list. I have Cathy's Chrysanth lace book and just love it. Apart from the designs what sets it off fro me is the whole section on how to design your own shapes. She is positively encouraging us to go on and develope our own style. I think that Rosa Libre might have the same possibilities. At the recent Harrogate Lace Day near here, Sandy Woods was the speaker and put out a small display of her work. I have seen some of it before, (The big 'S for Serpent on the cover of the second Milanese book by Pat Read is hers) Some of you may have seen her own book on colour in lace. But I was struck that her method of working and the way in which she guides the movement of each and every thread so that the colours blend 'just so' seem to be very rigid. There is no latitude or room to develop or do your own thing. It may be a revolution, but it seems to be a dead end, while Cathy's revolution is not over yet. Has anyone worked Sandi's pattern which is on the web site for the IOLI lace week? She had it at Harrogate and I still think I would like to see it in white! Jean in Cleveland U.K. Which class to take? Not such an easy choice. What is this Rosa Libre? It's a Lace Revolution in progress... g Cathy Bellevile has come up with several ways of making 3-dimensional BL elements, in colour, and using just a few pairs. *Continuously* -- none of the add a few, remove a few business... - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: Venetian Gros Pt. book
Another Needlelace book, suitable for beginners or those who would like to have some reference book, but might not become too involved with the craft is one by Pat Earnshaw. it is in the Merehurst Embroidery Skills series and entitled 'NeedleLace'. My copy was published in 1991 by Merehursy ltd. ISBN 1- 85391-158-5. there is no price in my copy but I know that it wasn't very expensive, probably £5-£6. It has a very good historical section, good photos and diagrams which are very clear. There are also lots of ideas and examples from historical and contemporary sources. Jean in Cleveland U.K. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Witch Stitch
Good Morning Carolina and All, I have just finished Carolina's Witch Stitch Spider which I started last weekend. It was really interesting to work and although I made a real mess of the first leg with the serpentina braid the final result is not too bad. I used the recommended Finca 80 thread and it is lovely. I know that Barbara Underwood is recommending it for Bedfordshire lace now. I found it very strong and smooth to work with. Well worth a try if you are having problems with weak threads. I know it comes in no.40 as well, and according to Brenda's book lots of other sizes. Roseground Lace supplies keep it in the UK. Now, what do I do with my large arachne spider? t-shirt? Bag? Hat? Watch out for her at Scarborogh and Prague. Thanks Carolina it's a lovely design. Jean in Cleveland U.K. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Setting up a web site
Hi Liz, Good luck with the web site, I'm looking forward to it already! yes do please give the name of the designer if known, and say own design if that is appropriate. It helps people to find a design if they would like to make it for themselves and if it is not your own it may stop you being pestered with requests for a copy. Jean in Cleveland U.K. On 6 Apr 2004, at 03:08, Elizabeth Ligeti wrote: A friend is prepared to set up a web site for me with my lace displayed, and I wonder if anyone can give me a few tips. I plan to go to a Freebie site - geocities, or Angel..? or somesuch. Are there any good sites, - or any very bad ones to avoid? Are there any special do's and don't's with selecting a name? Any helpful hints would be appreciated. I am totally outside my league here, but would like to do it anyway!! I plan to have both BL and NL, and (DD) Helen will join in later on. Is it necessary, or advisable, to put the source of the pattern used - eg A Springett's pattern under the picture of some Beds lace? I would appreciate any guidance you can give. from Liz in Melbourne, Oz, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Thread facts
Hi Susie, But for whatever reason, here in England we can buy Tanne cops in a wide variety of colours. I have pinks, greens, red (I don't seem to go much on blues) in my drawer right now. Actually one of the things on my list for Saturday and Harrogate Lace Day is some 50 in a pale turquoise shade. I think that will come in the cotona range on a small cotton reel. Jean in Cleveland U.K. On 24 Mar 2004, at 14:37, C. Johnson wrote: Lacemakers In Regard to Maderia thread my Austrialian lace friend sent me this information : The thread all of Europe, Australia and New Zealand called Cotona has been discontinued. The thread that Europe and Australia calls Madeira Tanne is still produced. For some reason Madeira Tanne was called Cotona in the USA and there lies the confusion. The cotona was sewing cotton and was available in a range of colours, whereas the Tanne is lace thread and is available only on larger cops in white, ecru and black. Madeira Tanne is still available. The word Tanne means cotton. Judith Markham Susie Johnson Morris, IL [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Working Covers.
Good morning All, Has anyone out there tried working on a smooth, plastic cover cloth? I had read about them, 'somewhere' and when I saw some at the NEC last year decided to buy a couple to try. I know that in France many people work with a smooth piece of leather under their bobbins. The one I bought is a thickish, strong, clear plastic, round and with a hole cut in the centre. I am working a piece lace with lots of sewings and constantly having to work over pins. It is perfect for that, but I also found when doing a long braid outline that it seemed to help the speed of the work and the tension. The bobbins move freely on the smooth surface and hang straight down, whereas with a fabric cover cloth they have to be placed and tensioned by hand. I must admit I do not like the noise they make , it's a fairly hard surface but can put up with that for the other benefits it gives. Jean in Cleveland U.K. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] webshot
Hello Ann-Marie, There are some lovely laces on your album pages. I particularly liked the picture of the cottage, the last one. I have done the Korlelati one and I bought another from the Swedish Guild in Nottingham I think, but have not seen that one before. Do you know where the pattern is from? best Wishes, Jean in Cleveland U.K. On 6 Mar 2004, at 10:28, Ann-Marie Lördal wrote: I have finally mounted some of my bobbinlace and updated my webshot. It is Cottage and The ladies from Vadstena. I have some more to mount but that is more difficult than making the lace sometimes! Ann-Marie http://community.webshots.com/user/annma1 If there is an attachment that is called sanitizer along with my mails it is from my mailserver that checks all my in- and outcoming mails for viruses. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: Out of print? and new book that looks interesting...
Hi Jane, Well done on finding that new book on Lace from the VA. I for one will be looking for it when it is published on 29th April. (That's according to the VA site) The info you copied from the Tesco site(I didn't know they sold books) seems to be the same as that from the museum flier. The price is the same. I wonder what Amazon will charge? Isn't it typical of museums though that something which I think will be of great interest to the lace making community has had little or no advanced publicity. Where were the adverts in the last Lace magazine, where are the handouts at the lace fairs etc. It's the same mentality that led the Northampton museum to run off twelve copies at a time of their pattern book when they mounted a lace exhibition the other year, so it was always out of stock. Jean in Cleveland U.K. On 25 Feb 2004, at 18:28, Jane Partridge wrote: However, a couple of entries further down I found a new one, Lace, no author quoted, available for pre- order, due at the end of April. So I clicked the information button, and it came up as: VA Lace Hardback 1-85177-418-1 Published: 30 Apr 2004 - Publisher: V A Publications Available to pre-order, normally delivered on release date Tesco Price: £30.00 Summary: Clare Browne has selected examples across the full range of designs and fashions, to demonstrate the skill and variety lace-makers have achieved in their work. She explores the history of lace-making from its origins in the late fifteenth century, showing how patterns and techniques developed to serve the fashions of the day. Lace-makers became more adventurous as technical developments in needle and bobbin lace opened up new possibilities, while later sophistication in design brought astonishing naturalistic effects, particularly in the depiction of flowers and plants. Specially photographed details provide a feast for the eye as well as a survey of exquisite craftsmanship. This book will be additionally valuable as a record of important parts of a collection which by its nature is too fragile to be displayed. It also offers a wide-ranging survey of the art and craft of lace-making down the ages that will appeal to needlework enthusiasts, designers, students and all those interested in historical fashion. Looks as if it might be an interesting one to look out for, in a few months' time. V A, of course, is the Victoria and Albert Museum in London. -- Jane Partridge - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] New book
Hi All, I have just checked the Amazon site here in UK and the New book due out on April 29th-30th Lace from the VA museum by Clare Browne ISBN 1-85177-418-1 Published price £30 is on Amazon at £21. A good saving if you are prepared to take the risk on the book without reviews etc. I know there is so much lace in the museum that no one ever sees and unless you have the time etc to be able to plan a private show , and also know what to ask for, it remains hidden. I was able to arrange a session with the curator, who turned out to be Clare Browne, some years ago now looking specifically for Spanish Frisado de Valladolid. They didn't think that they had any, but from my descriptions and an old exhibition (1915) I think, we found the most exquisite piece. I am pleased to say that is now on display, but it hadn't been seen for at least 50 years. I am hoping that the book contains some similar pieces. Jean in Cleveland U.K. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Is everyone on holiday?
Good morning All, Is it just me or has everyone gone away for the weekend? Only 2 males yesterday and 3 this morning. Or have I messed up my mailboxes, Again? Jean in Cleveland U.K. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Thread choice, again
Hi Tamara, As well as the Moravia linen thaat Patty mentioned there is also linen thread by Goldschild from Switzerland. The one labelled 66/3 is equivalent to 40/3 and comes out at 22 wraps//cm. also a lovely range of colours although I'm not sure how many. Jean in Cleveland U.K. On 17 Feb 2004, at 03:49, Tamara P. Duvall wrote: Gentle Spiders, I'm working on getting the first of my Windrose Variations (Christmas ornaments) into a publish-able format, and have run into a problem... In my usual, long-winded way, let me describe it. There's not much room for enlarging/reducing of the pricking... The prerequisites are: a) the ornament, as a whole, can't be but *so* big, b) the base thread is thicker than the (metallic) worker for the best effect, c) 2-ply is better than 3-ply and linen is better than cotton for the base thread, d) the threads ought to be easy to obtain, e) we're thinking *colour*. OK. The metallic is no sweat; several -- easily available, from a multitude of suppliers -- brands can be used. It's the base thread that's giving me fits... My first two (completed; there are a few which had been ditched early on g) samples were made in Madeira Tanne/Cotona 20/2 cotton. The thread worked very well for size (though the final results are a touch limp), but I'm not sure it's still available (the thread came from my stash). OTOH, it gave me a point of reference (Brenda Paternoster's Threads for Lace); it has a wrap ratio of 24, so I thought finding a substitute would be relatively easy... Not so :) Remember: I'm looking for *linen* and for a *2-ply* and for *colour*... The same (24) wrap in linen (that I happened to have on hand) is Bockens 50/2. It works up a *little* finer than Madeira Tanne 20, and would, probably, be the thinnest acceptable. *If* it were available in colours.. So far as I'm aware, it's only available in white. I had some Bockens 35/2 on hand (lots of lovely colours available, if not in my personal stash g), and tried that. At a 20 wrap it's *a possible*, but on the outermost end of the spectrum; it's almost too thick, which makes the whole difficult to tension (and to get the seed-beads sewn on). So, what I'm asking is this: Of all the *2-ply* linen threads listed in Brenda's little book, in the 21-24 wrap range of thickness... *Which* are available in colour? And *where* can I (or anyone reading the IOLI Bulletin) get them? Yours, somewhat bummed out; we had Presidents' Day today which, in real terms translates to no mail, no library, no bank service... And no newspaper, because we get it at the U, and the students are on vaccation (again!). The no mail was the hardest blow, however; I'm still waiting for my copy of Lace... :) *On top of which*, I doubt all of our past and present Presidents are all that happy to be celebrated together, like some Presidential baby mush... g - Tamara P Duvall Lexington, Virginia, USA Formerly of Warsaw, Poland http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Copying patterns
Good morning All, I wonder if anyone else has had this problem. Some designers print out their patterns on coloured paper so that they cannot be reproduced by photocopying. I understand this as they do not want their designs sold on or even passed on to other people. But I do not like to prick through the master copy of a design. I want to keep it absolutely accurate for reference, or reuse (by me) I have discovered that if you can scan the design into a PhotoShop type program on the computer, it has a manipulation setting that allows you to remove the colour. Print this and you have a copy of the pricking. I print straight onto blue card, cover with matt plastic and am ready to go. Jean in Cleveland U.K. Dull and misty this morning, but all the croci are in flower on the stray and my rosemary bush is covered in blossom. I thought it came from the Mediterranean? - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Looking for patterns of Bobbinlacer
Good morning Sherry, There is a pattern for a bobbin lace maker in the book Nyplatkaamme, Let's make bobbin Lace by Eeva-Liisa Kortelahti. It was published in 1988, ISBN 951-99922-3-5. I am not sure if it is still available but shoulf be in the IOLI library if nowhere else. It is worked in linen thread and I have seen it reduced in size and worked finer. It is quite straight forward to work and I think very pretty. Jean in Cleveland U.K. On 31 Jan 2004, at 16:34, Celtic Dream Weaver wrote: I was just looking at some pictures of lace displays on some website which right now...I don't know what the website was but I saw a lace picture of a bobbinlacer. Does anybody out there know where I can find patterns of bobbinlacers done in bobbinlace. I would love to make something like that. Thanks for whatever info you can give to me in advance. Sherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] where the snow keeps piling and piling ontop of old snow...in New York, USA - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] printing designs
Good morning All, Is there anyone out there who can help me? reply privately of course. I am using an iMac machine, scanning prickings to prepare pattern sheets. If I print out direct from PhotoShop I get a clear image. If I put the scan into Word I get a clear image, but it is very awkward to add text and other images in that format. If I drop the scan into Appleworks it is easy to add text and move things around but the resulting printout is hopeless. The text is OK but the pattern is sort of pixillated and completely useless as far as publishing goes. Any ideas gratefully received before this Mac goes through the window. Jean in Cleveland U.K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] expensive bobbin
Good morning All, Whatever the story behind this bobbin, it is certainly very beautiful. The story that was suggested may not be too far off the mark. It would certainly not be one of a bucketload that was made to commemorate a single engagement during the early days of the First World War. With the wooden shaft and only silver top and tail it would be quite useable, I think. I have several all silver bobbins, (wedding anniversary, job leaving bobbins) and they are quite awkward to use. The difference in weight makes my fingures stumble over them on the pillow. Gold would be hopeless in this respect. It's much too heavy. Jean in Cleveland U.K. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Extra work for Tutors
Dear Peggy, This appears to be an escalating problem for teachers of adult education classes across the UK. I do not teach a class now but have close friends who do and attend one FE class myself and that tutor has her own ways of dealing with the problem, most not to be recommended. I am not sure if the EC is to blame, I think it is the government who are not willing to supply funds for non vocational classes. They cannot see the use of classes which do not lead to a qualification of any sort. The social aspects do not seem to count. In this area most of the teachers are trying to set up private classes, perhaps in a community centre or church hall. It means more work for the teacher, who will have to arrange for insurance perhaps but will get you away from the silly office people who think that if you have prepared a work plan someone else could come in and cover your class if you were ill. Is this an area where the Lace Groups in different areas could step in? They could hire a hall/room and 'employ' a lace teacher much as the LEA's do, or would this be opening more problems with employment acts and the like. Jean in Cleveland U.K. On 24 Jan 2004, at 16:55, Peggy Lovelace-Carr wrote: Dear Friends in Lace I would like to know how all the Lace Tutors in the UK are coping with the amount of paperwork we have to do now for the EU regulations. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] pattern query
Good morning All, And a special thankyou to all who wrote with your ideas for the presentation of oversize patterns. The most popular idea seems to come down on the side of split in half and give centre line markers. That makes it possible to use the scanner at home, until we all get A3 printers enlarging from A4 to A3 is a copy shop job. I will however look into the possibility of binding folded pages in with the smaller ones. I think that it will be plastic comb bound. We are aiming to publish in June. More details nearer the time. Now I have a Saturday treat. The IOLI magazine arrived this morning, so once the washing is on, I am going to sit and read it:)) Jean in cold Cleveland U.K. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] patterns
Good morning All, Can I canvas opinions on how patterns are presented in books. The background to this is that our Lace Guild is preparing a book of patterns to be published for our 25th Anniversary. We have collected designs from many different lacemakers and they are of many types of lace and many different sizes. The book will be A4 size, 21mm. or 8.3 inches wide, less a bit for binding. Some patterns are larger than this. If you were buying a book would you prefer to have such patterns cut in half, probably with an overlap so that you can put them together again, or would you prefer them to be reduced with the % enlargement noted so that you can print them out actual size yourself? Any ideas will be much appreciated. yes you have guessed I am the lucky person who said they would prepare the patterns for printing. Jean in Cleveland U.K. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Heart Pattern
Good morning All, Julia before everyone rushes around trying to find the book you mentioned 'A Nosegay of Hankies', it is a very old book now and I should think that it is out of print. Certainly the 'phone number is very out of date. Anyone wanting to see a copy should try their Guild lending libraries first perhaps. Jean in Cleveland U,K. On 18 Jan 2004, at 23:28, julia wallace wrote: I was recently given a pattern book from a lady helping me with my project. It's called A Nosegay of Hankies - 15 new designs by Beryl Gorse. They're fine torchon edgings (sorry, can't remember what type of lace you required). There are a no. of hankie edgings in it with hearts and fans, Lydia, Emily, Julie patterns in particular. The contact at the front is Larkfield Crafts, Hilary Ricketts, 4 Island Cottages, Mapledurwell, Basingstoke, Hants, tel: Hackwood 6585. Not sure if it's any help. Suspect Vivienne from Biggins has probably already contacted you by now, as i'm sure from her abundance of fantastic patterns at least one will fit the bill. Julia _ Tired of 56k? Get a FREE BT Broadband connection http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] teaching classes
Hi Sharon, A smaller alternative to the 'snake' would be to draw a leaf sort of shape, perhaps 1 and a half to 2 inches long. With suitable colours, in pearl cotton or similar this can be turned into a fish. You can add an eye with a bead and bundle the pairs at the end just as you do with the snake, but careful cutting can turn the threads into a fan tail. It can be worked a second time in half stitch as well. They can be mounted on card and taken home to show off. I know a friend used this at a Guide camp to introduce lace, and I have usd this at taster classes where we knew tha most of the learner would be children. Jean in Cleveland U,K, [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Saturday, January 17, 2004, at 10:56 PM, rick sharon wrote: Dear Lorelei and all you other kind spiders who have responded. I'm beginning to revise my opinion about using the snake as a starter project since a couple of you pointed out some areas of potential difficulty. Perhaps the boring bandage might be best after all? I hadn't thought of tape lace as a second choice. I do have Pam Nottingham's Bobbin Lace Making it's the book I used to teach myself 20 yrs ago and has been as much my bible as the Cookbook :) I have to admit though, I completely skipped the tape lace lessons because they didn't look like real lace to me. What is the opinion of other lacers? Would tape lace grab you? One of the laces suggested is more or less a meander with sewings in the middle of the loops. Sorry to keep bugging you, but I don't want to have to re-invent the wheel when I know that there might have been others in a similar situation. Thanks. Sharon on dull Vancouver Island - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: Question about Convention
Good morning All, I have been interested in the comments about the IOLI convention, being only a new member I knew little about it, (and my magazine has still not arrived yet), but I did have a little to do with the OIDFA Congress when it came to UK in 2002. The purpose of the Congress is to meet other lacemakers, take classes, have fun but also make money. it is thanks to the profit made at the Congress that OIDFA is able to offer members in Eastern Europe a reduced joining fee this year. Costs between planning and event can spiral, always upwards. In the UK colleges are realising that they can supplement their incomes by letting out rooms during holiday times, so they are no longer as cheap as they were. OIDFA does offer its Congress organisers a comprehensive pack of guidelines for the organisation of a congress and the organising committee reports to the executive at regular intervals. I'm sorry you missed Nottingham Nicky, it was a wonderful congress. Jean in Cleveland U.K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] straw pillows
Hi Jenny, If your straw pillow is newly made, it will have been treated in some way before manufacture. If it is an older one I would go for baking. It sounds like it will kill any bugs rather than just putting them into hibernation for a while! Jean in Cleveland U.K. On Wednesday, January 14, 2004, at 08:50 AM, Barron wrote: Hi there, can anyone remind me how best to treat a newly acquired straw pillow? I've no reason to suspect it is infected with beasties but is it better to assume it is? Also I can't remember whether it's better to bake it or freeze it. It has a wooden base with a wooden ring attached so if I was to freeze it would it be better to remove the wooden bits - if possible - before freezing? jenny barron vaguely itching as soon as I started to think about beasties, hope it's just my imagination! Scotland - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]