Re: [lace] Oya reticella laces

2006-01-25 Thread Jean Barrett

Good morning All,
I took the Council members class on Bibilla in Athens last year,  
because I love the Oya scarves they make. Not a good idea. As Diane  
said, its all in the tension. My round doierly is more like a basket,  
and I ended up with a bad shoulder for weeks. So I have made a Rosa  
Libre Edge to put on a scarf as a sort of Bobbin Lace Version of Rosa  
Libre. I will post a picture when it is finished. It needs a couple  
of Butterflies now.

Jean in Cleveland U.K.
On 25 Jan 2006, at 01:43, Diane Z wrote:

There's an article in the last Piecework magazine on oya lace.  I  
don't think the directions are too good but the close up of the  
finished edge is very good.


There are several books on Armenian lace on the market and the  
descriptions are very good on how to make the knot.


I also took the class in Harrisburg, and it is not a complicated  
procedure. Tension is everything and that part I still can't get  
correct.  I think this is a perfect lace to make while traveling.


OIDFA in Athens has a class on Oya lace in May.  I'm hoping to get  
a few tension pointers from some of the students of that class and  
finally have a good portable lace to make.


Diane Zierold
Lubec Maine


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Re: [lace]contemporary tatting fan

2006-01-01 Thread Jean Barrett
Oh!, Thank you Treena for that wonderful fan site. What a splendid  
work of art. It really is 'thinking outside the box' as far as  
construction and design are concerned and all the better for it. Not  
for everyone perhaps but wonderful that someone can work like this.
Happy new year to All Spiders, and may you achieve at least some of  
your resolutions. Mine is to try and 'unclutter' myself from all the  
piles of 'it might come in one day' junk of cuttings, postcards,  
pictures, fabrics etc I seem to have collected. I've made a start.  
The end is not in sight!

Jean in Cleveland U.K.
On 1 Jan 2006, at 04:23, James and Trenna Ruffner wrote:


While surfing  I found this lovely contemporary tatted fan that I
think all lacemakers will appreciate especially the tatters among  
us.  A
lovely use of an old technique in a modern mode. And what a  
privilege to
work with another artist/craftsperson.  Too bad the picture of the  
final

product isn't clear enough to see the detail.  Trenna, Michigan
http://www.lecurieux.com/Frivolite/frivolite.htm

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Re: [lace] ebay item: but is it crochet?

2005-12-29 Thread Jean Barrett
This looks like needlelace to me too. I see that the sale has ended.  
Was that early?

Jean in  Cleveland U.K. and feeling cold at 26F
On 28 Dec 2005, at 22:06, bevw wrote:


Hi everyone

I notice that the Russian lace album is now at $139.++

Here's an interesting table runner:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? 
ViewItemitem=7376694345ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:US:71


or at tiny:
http://tinyurl.com/9ygfq

It looks like it could be needlelace, or is it just really tightly
packed crochet?
--
bye for now
Bev in Sooke BC (on Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada)
Cdn. floral bobbins
www.woodhavenbobbins.com

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[lace] Greetings

2005-12-25 Thread Jean Barrett

Good morning All, to all Spiders everywhere,
To all Lace makers, where ever you are, a  Very Happy Christmas and a  
peaceful and lace filled New Year.

Jean in Cleveland U.K.

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Re: [lace] Susan Bobbins

2005-12-21 Thread Jean Barrett

Good morning All,
Of course I had forgotten about all of the Susanna's and variations.  
I stand corrected. I have only a few named bobbins, a couple of  
Jane's and A Marie, which I bought for my daughter in law whose full  
name is Maritha but I'm not likely to find a Fijian name on an old  
Midlands bobbin!


Jean in Cleveland U.K.
On 21 Dec 2005, at 05:34, Sue Fink wrote:

Jean says that she is not sure if Susan is a name that would have  
been used
in Victorian times.  I have to say that as a Susan myself I have  
collected
several with that name.  In fact I haven't counted them up but as I  
do have
several, I have stopped focussing on Susan, coz I began to think  
that if I

collected them all, someone would say there were no Susans who were
lacemakers in the old days!
 I have also been collecting family names and now have Fred,  
Stephen, Anne

(which will have to do for my daughter Annemarie), George, Philip,
Elizabeth and Daniel.  However I don't think I will have much luck in
collecting Veronica, Rochelle, Jorja and Chiara!

Sue Fink,
Masterton, New Zealand

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[lace] Inscribed bobbins

2005-12-20 Thread Jean Barrett

Good morning All,
I took a quick look at the Susan' bobbin. The sale had ended by then  
though. A couple of things struck me. The green colour was startling,  
but I have one similar. But I cannot remember seeing a Coloured  
inscribed bobbin. Also all the inscriptions I have seen have been in  
block capital letters. 'Susan' appeared to be cursive. The other  
thing that worries me about it is the name itself 'Susan' This is  
only a gut feeling as they say, but Susan does not strike me as a  
victorian name. I have been searching for a 'Jean' bobbin for years  
but I know that I am unlikely to find one. Victorians just did not  
call their daughters that. Jan is the nearest I can come up with.

Jean in Cleveland U.K.

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Re: [lace] Passée à Cheval?

2005-12-17 Thread Jean Barrett
In this book , as in others of the series, sometimes instructions  
carry on over the page. There are 3 points highlighted by a circle in  
this pattern, No's 1 and 2 are illustrated on page 16, no.3 is on  
page 18.. This is an insertion adapted from the edge pattern you are  
working. I'm not sure which of these if any is the 'passee a cheval'  
but with these patterns I have found it best to ignore the written  
instructions and just follow the diagrams.

Best Wishes, Jean in Cleveland U.K.
On 17 Dec 2005, at 07:16, Donna Hrynkiw wrote:


Greetings from a new subscriber -- with a query.

I'm about to begin a pattern from Modèles de Dentelles au Fuseau  
Cluny
by Mick Fouriscot and Mylène Salvador; Fougères Bordure on page  
16 to

be exact.

The instructions mention passée à cheval which my highschool french
translates as last with horse. So it can't be a literal translation,
but the name of a technique or movement. (horse passage? horse
crossing?)

I've tracked down a representation of passée à cheval at
http://www.chez.com/dentelle/Tech/Cheval/passee.htm (which even
references Mick Fouriscot. Whoo-hoo! I'm on the right track). I'm  
having

trouble translating the instructions again, but the diagram looks
suspiciously like what Springett calls a Cluny Crossing. Am I close?

Another query: If you have ...Dentelles au Fuseau Cluny handy and  
can
look at the pattern -- where are Fouriscot and Salvador  
recommending the
use of the passée à cheval? At the narrowest point of the lace --  
where

the plait with the double picot joins the headside trail?

Donna in Surrey, British Columbia, Canada
Bobbins loaded and drawing the pricking

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Re: [lace] BEWARE - Gorgeous Antique Beaded Bone Lace Bobbin * Circa1830 (6224228813)

2005-11-29 Thread Jean Barrett

I agree with you Ken. That's not a Haskins head. Or tail I feel either.
Jean in Cleveland U.K.
On 28 Nov 2005, at 20:12, kenn van dieren wrote:

I just noticed that the bid price on this bobbin has reached $61.00  
with 1-1/4 days left for bidding.  While I have bought a couple of  
bobbins listed by her that do look authentic ( I have the same  
research book too!) I think anyone buying this one is getting  
ripped off.  I did write to her.  What follows is what I stated to  
her.




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Re: [lace] OIDFA in Greece in May (very long)

2005-11-25 Thread Jean Barrett

Hi Tess and all OIdfa members,
You should receive a special bulletin with full details of the  
Congress, including hotels etc. I had mine a week ago. This also  
includes booking forms. It is just these forms that they want back by  
mid-December. They will then send an invoice. That's when they will  
want the money.

Jean in Cleveland U.K. OIDFA Council member.
On 24 Nov 2005, at 20:36, Tess Parrish wrote:

The information on the upcoming OIDFA Congress in May has been  
posted on their website:

http://www.oidfa2006athens.com/

This information will all of course also come in the next OIDFA  
bulletin, but as registration is due by December 15 this doesn't  
give those of us who haven't received our bulletins much time to  
decide on which events we want to attend and to send in our  
deposits.  So I urge you to take a look at all the goodies they  
have laid on for us and to make up your minds as quickly as you can.


For those who don't know about OIDFA, it is a really good group to  
belong to.  It is based in Europe, the original home of lacemaking,  
but its members come from all over the world (like Arachne!).  It  
publishes its magazine four times a year, and the articles reflect  
the state of lacemaking everywhere.


A great Congress is held every other year in a different country.   
It is made up of three parts: four days of classes in a good  
choices of techniques, especially those of the host country; three  
days over a weekend with lectures and exhibits and happy  
socializing; and five days of a tour of the country with special  
lace events set up everywhere.


This year the Congress is being held in Greece for the first time.   
Looking over the offerings that they have laid on for us, I am  
amazed at what we can see and do to find out not only about  
lacemaking in Greece, but with many day trips available to visit  
historic sites and famous buildings. There are two special trips,  
one to Chios and the other to Crete.  These are the choices for the  
usual tour of the country, and in the case of Crete, we will get  
there by boat which should be much more fun than the usual bus trips.


The Congresses normally take place in August, but this Congress  
will be held at the end of May to avoid the strong heat of summer  
in Greece. This is why we are all being encouraged to go on line  
early to see what we are being offered.  One very helpful asset, by  
the way, is that we can pay for everything--the Congress, the  
hotels, the classes, and the long trips--by credit card.  This is  
not always the case, but the Greeks are certainly doing everything  
they can to encourage us to come to their ancient and beautiful  
country.


If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to email me  
privately.  I will answer anything I can, and I have found that the  
organizers in Greece are very prompt and helpful with their  
replies.  This is a multi-lingual organization, by the way,  
publishing everything in English and in French, but I'm sure that  
the organizers are well able to handle any language.


Tess Parrish in Maine, USA ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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Re: [lace] Article on bobbins in Radio Times

2005-11-24 Thread Jean Barrett

Nice work Jean, I wish mine did that trick!
I wonder if this article was in response to all the mail they had  
about the programme where the lace bobbins did not sell? I think that  
Eric Knowles valuations should have added a warning that prices  
depend on who is in the saleroom on that particular day and if it is  
the right type of sale.

jean in Cleveland U.K.
On 23 Nov 2005, at 13:05, Jean Nathan wrote:

For those who don't have access to the Radio Times, here's the text  
of the article on bobbins. No, I didn't type it all out - I don't  
use the optical character reading facility of my scanner often, but  
it comes in useful for things like this.




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Re: [lace] Fwd: Cards for lace

2005-11-22 Thread Jean Barrett

Doh! Thanks Tamara. Got the wrong button again.
Jean in Cleveland U.K.
On 22 Nov 2005, at 04:11, Tamara P Duvall wrote:

I'm going a out on a limb a bit here, forwarding a message which  
had been sent to me privately. But, as I said when I asked the  
question, I think the answers might be of interest to more people  
than myself, so here goes:




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[lace] Lace maker model

2005-11-12 Thread Jean Barrett

Good morning all,
I wonder if anyone can help me identify a small lace maker model I  
found recently.
 She is modelled in porcelain, plain white, unglazed (bisque?) The  
only identifying marks underneath are the initials C or possibly G W  
surmounted by a crown in brown and some numbers impressed into the base.
She is sitting on a chair and holding a Dutch style pillow on her  
knees and using Dutch style bobbins. I have a feeling that she is  
modelled on a painting, but so far I haven't been able to find which  
one. The modelling is very fine. Even the lace is detailed. It looks  
like Bruges bloemwerk.

Has anyone any ideas of the origin?
Jean in Cleveland U.K.

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Re: [lace] Eye Candy in Wales

2005-11-09 Thread Jean Barrett

Patty and All,
This is certainly a wonderful archive, thanks for sharing. What a  
pity that such a worthwhile project has received such little  
publicity, until now!

Jean in Cleveland U.K.
On 9 Nov 2005, at 11:00, Patty Dowden wrote:


Hi Spiders,

While meandering around the internet, I put Flemish Lace in Google  
for an image search.  Well, look what I found.
There is a remarkable site celebrating the history and culture of  
Wales called the Gathering of Jewels. It includes about 25 pieces  
of knock your socks off antique laces in to die for detailed  
pictures.  Not only are  there larger size pictures, but there is  
also a zoom feature separately where you can look at the threads to  
your heart's content. Go see.


http://www.gtj.org.uk/en/subjects/4773

Patty

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Re: [lace] lace supply store in moated castle in germany

2005-11-06 Thread Jean Barrett

Hi Suzy and All,
 I have some  reels of Goldschild Linen thread which I bought from  
Martin Buckhard of Switzerland. The NEL 66/3 which is equivalent to  
40/3 is on a 25g. reel and it says it contains 300 metres. Thats  
probably about 330 yards. the 80/3 (50/3) is on a reel of 50g. and is  
700metres.

Hope this helps, Jean in Cleveland U.K.
On 6 Nov 2005, at 03:20, suzy wrote:


i was hoping someone could give me a-round-about guess of how much 25
or 28 grams of thread would be in length measurments.  america sizes
their lengths in feet and yards and metric is in meters and what ever
else there is to measure distance.  i'm not very good at the metric
system, although there is a formula to convert on to the other.  i
don't remember it, but i was taught it a few times in school.  we  
don't
use it enough for me to remember it in this part of the u.s.a..  i  
just

wish i knew what distance i might get out of 28 grams! lol.

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There's about 28 grams in an ounce, so 25 grams is just under an
ounce.

Robin P.



from suzy in tennessee,u.s.a.



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Re: [lace] new Thread

2005-09-14 Thread Jean Barrett

Hi Noelene and all,
Brenda has also measured a single strand of the new DMC linen at 25  
wraps per cm. and it is now on the latest addendum list, number 3 on  
her web site. I think that most reasonably good embroidery supply  
shops should carry it. Do be careful of the costs however. I received  
a new craft catalogue last week. It's an American firm called  
Herrschners. I think they must be trying to start up in  this  
country. That is where I saw the threads offered. When I checked our  
local shop I found that the catalogue price was 25 pence a skein more  
than the shop price, unless you were willing to buy the whole range  
of 24 skeins. Then you have to add postage. Buyers beware!

Jean in Cleveland U.K.

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[lace] new Thread

2005-09-13 Thread Jean Barrett
I found a nw thread the other day which may be useful if you need a  
touch of colour and would prefer linen. DMC are producing a range of  
stranded linen embroidery threads. A single strand is the same  
thickness as a strand of most stranded embroidery cottons. The  
colours are very muted which is rather nice as most coloured linens  
are a bit on the 'bright' side. I haven't had a chance to try any  
yet, will report back later, unless someone has beaten me to it?

Jean in  Cleveland U.K.

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Re: [lace] General Fans Information

2005-09-08 Thread Jean Barrett

Hi Barbara and All,
Several people have replied about fan sticks already but I would add  
one or two bits. Someone, (sorry I forget who) mentioned John  
Brooker. Sadly he no longer makes them. His were wonderful but he had  
health problems relating to the dust that the working caused I think.
You mention that you have the pattern for a Bucks fan which you would  
like to make. Is it by any chance one of the Springett patterns? They  
published some Bucks patterns by Bridget cook as well. If so they  
also made fan sticks to fit. I think the sticks are still available  
from someone, perhaps Roseground supplies. I am sure that they will  
know who has them in any case and I do know that they keep some  
wooden one from Spain. If you write give them the depth of the leaf  
and also the radius from the centre of the (part) circle to the edge.  
Another possibility is Jenny Hester. her son makes bobbins and  
tatting shuttles and now Fan sticks and Jenny decorates them with  
pyrography and sparkly gems.
As for mounting, while I have made several of the Springett patterns  
I always go for Ann Colliers mounting method. No pre-folding. Paint  
the sticks with wood glue, Evo-stick, and let it dry. Place  
everything on an ironing cloth, your lace arranged on top of the  
sticks, cover with a protective cloth and gently press the lace onto  
each stick in turn. If you decide to reposition anything it can be  
easily peeled back and repeated. I think there are more detailed  
descriptions of the method in most of Ann's books.

Best Wishes, Jean in Cleveland U.K.
On 5 Sep 2005, at 20:39, Barbara Joyce wrote:

Jeri's discussion about fan museums and collections triggered a  
couple of

questions that I've been mulling over for a while. I think I'm finally
skilled enough to try a Bucks fan, for which I have the instructions,
pricking, etc.

(1) Do you know where I could obtain nice fan sticks? I would  
appreciate any
recommentdations for woodworkers, and especially if anyone has a  
lead on

mother-of-pearl fanstick makers.

(2) Do they make fansticks custom-ordered to fit the size of the  
lace? I

can't imagine how else one would be sure to get sticks the right size.

(3) Are there reference publications that give instructions on how  
to mount

the lace onto the fan sticks?

Thanks for any info,

Barbara Joyce
Snoqualmie, WA
USA

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[lace] Enlarging patterns

2005-09-03 Thread Jean Barrett

Good morning Tamara, Doris and all,
This subject of enlarging patterns via the photocopier is one that  
comes up from time to time on Arachne. I regard Brenda as the expert  
on this but I do know that to double the size of a pattern on the  
photocopier I must set it at 141%. On European copiers enlarging A4  
to A3 shows this in the little window. The reasons are too complex  
for me to explain without a lot of brain work but it is down to the  
fact that you are not just enlarging lengths but area.
I seem to remember that there was in an OIDFA bulletin a chart  
produced which gave a table showing the % which patterns in different  
threads would need to be adjusted by, to change the thread size.

Jean in Cleveland U.K.

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Re: [lace] Adhesives Blue Vanishing Pen Inks

2005-08-01 Thread Jean Barrett

On 31 Jul 2005, at 22:45, Jane Bawn wrote:

It's quite a while since I have made any samplers but I seem to  
remember the
recommendation was to wash them when they are finished to remove  
the oils
and perspiration rubbed off from the hands when sewing.  The same  
would

apply to lace making.


But Jane, when do you handle your lace? Your bobbins are there so  
that you don't touch the thread when working. you can roll the thread  
onto the bobbins instead of winding. You can wear a pair of cotton  
gloves when winding to save even that handling. (I know of at least  
one Devon Lace maker who does this) A lot of embroidery is done on a  
frame, so the fabric is not handled too much. We were taught by  
Elizabeth Prickett, the Ruskin Linen Embroidery expert , that  
although the linen is handled constantly while working the embroidery  
when finished it was enough to roll the piece in a damp tea cloth and  
leave overnight. In the morning it can be carefully pressed and most  
of the dirt has lifted away along with all the creases.

Jean in Cleveland U.K.

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[lace] Please contact privately

2005-07-10 Thread Jean Barrett
If Leonard Bazar is reading the list still, will you plaes contact me  
privately, the mail I sent got bounced back. I must have had the  
wrong address. Thanks and sorry to have to post this to the list.

Jean in Cleveland U.K.

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Re: [lace] Bibilla class at OIDFA

2005-06-02 Thread Jean Barrett

Hi Annette,
As someone mentioned there will be 5 courses next year in Athens  
during the last week of May. The weather was lovely this year, warm  
and sunny but still pleasant to stroll around the town in the  
evenings. We (the Council Members) were offered Bibilla, Cretan  
Bobbin Lace and Lace Mosaics. Next Year there will also be Asia Minor  
Embroideries, which look the same from both sides and Cretan Finger  
Lace, which is a type of fine macramé ( forget Sisal plant pot  
holders) As Jeri said because the Congress is earlier in the year  
this time details and booking forms will be out earlier, probably in  
the third  bulletin for this year. The way to find out more is to  
join OIDFA and get the bulletins.

Jean in Cleveland U.K.
On 1 Jun 2005, at 23:38, Annette Meldrum wrote:


Dear Jean and all,
When I read about a Bibilla class being offered at OIDFA my ears  
pricked up.
Do you have details of the classes on offer? I have not been able  
to find
any details of classes and would be grateful for any details or  
direction as
to where they are listed. I am hopeful of attending OIDFA for the  
first

time.

Many thanks in anticipation
Annette Meldrum in warm and sunny Wollongong, NSW, Australia


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Subject: Re: [lace] Picture of a needlelace needle required

Bibilla is the Greek version of
the knotted needle lace found around the eastern Mediterranean. It is
ine of the courses being offered at next years OIDFA Congress in  
Athens.

Jean in  Cleveland U.K.
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Re: [lace] Picture of a needlelace needle required

2005-06-01 Thread Jean Barrett

Good morning All and Sue,
Sorry, I should have explained more. Bibilla is the Greek version of  
the knotted needle lace found around the eastern Mediterranean. It is  
ine of the courses being offered at next years OIDFA Congress in Athens.

Jean in  Cleveland U.K.
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On 31 May 2005, at 20:49, Maureen Harvey wrote:


Jean, excuse my ignorance but what exactly is a bibllla?
Sue Harvey
Norfolk UK
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Reply , from a non needlelacer; grab an ordinary sewing needle from
Jean's sewing box and take a picture. Hey Presto, a needle lace
needle. I've never heard of any special needles being used, unless
someone prefers ball-point needles for when they are doing the  
fillings.

Jean in Cleveland U.K. after failing miserably at a bibllla course in
Athens

On 29 May 2005, at 14:16, Brian Lemin wrote:



I have just discovered that I do not have a picture of a real
needle lace needle (as opposed to a doll needle etc.)

Can anyone send me a scan/picture of one please?

Many thanks



Jean and Brian from Cooranbong, Australia
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Re: [lace] Picture of a needlelace needle required

2005-05-30 Thread Jean Barrett
Reply , from a non needlelacer; grab an ordinary sewing needle from  
Jean's sewing box and take a picture. Hey Presto, a needle lace  
needle. I've never heard of any special needles being used, unless  
someone prefers ball-point needles for when they are doing the fillings.
Jean in Cleveland U.K. after failing miserably at a bibllla course in  
Athens


On 29 May 2005, at 14:16, Brian Lemin wrote:

I have just discovered that I do not have a picture of a real  
needle lace needle (as opposed to a doll needle etc.)


Can anyone send me a scan/picture of one please?

Many thanks



Jean and Brian from Cooranbong, Australia
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Re: [lace] Web address

2005-05-03 Thread Jean Barrett
Hi Jenny and All,
Sorry about this confusion,Jenny sorted it out.
 If anyone is still interested and wants to look at the site, I must 
have been tired when I was trying to type that address. It is;
http://homepage.mac.com/jeanbarrett/PhotoAlbum11.html

Jean in Cleveland U.K.
On 2 May 2005, at 15:23, Jenny Brandis wrote:
Just toss the dot out and add the slash between jeanbarrett and 
PhotoAlbum11.html

http://homepage.mac.com/jeanbarrett/PhotoAlbum11.html
Jenny Brandis
Kununurra, Western Australia
At 02:03 PM 5/2/2005 +0100, Jean Barrett wrote:
I think I may have printed out the web address wrongly in my last 
posting. Here it is again.

http://homepage.mac.com/jeanbarrett.PhotoAlbum11.html
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[lace] Web address

2005-05-02 Thread Jean Barrett
I think I may have printed out the web address wrongly in my last 
posting. Here it is again.

http://homepage.mac.com/jeanbarrett.PhotoAlbum11.html
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[lace] getting around to it

2005-05-02 Thread Jean Barrett
Good Afternoon All,
I have at last managed to sort out a few things in answer to some 
questions from various people.
First, I saw Anna Halikova, the organiser of the Prague OIDFA Congress 
last year. (She was at the Lace Guild AGM) She had with her copies of 
the video they have had made of the Exhibitions at the University site 
and the Fashion Show. Very good, and at £9 good value for money. 
Contact Anna for how to get one.

I have completed several bits of Rosalibre lace and am rapidly becoming 
addicted. It is such fun to do, quite quick but requiring enough skill 
level to not be boring .

I have a photo of the piece of lace which I had thought was Spanish but 
which matches the piece from Erzgebirge which was in Ilkse's article in 
 the latest IOLI Magazine. Mine is the matching edging however.

Finally, on Saturday in the newspaper magazine section I came across an 
advertisement for some fancy French lingerie, but it was the models 
bracelet which caught my eye. What do you think?

All of the above are on ; 
http//Homepage.mac.com/jeanbarrett.PhotoAlbum11.html

Jean in Cleveland U.K.
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[lace] Lacemaking in Germany

2005-04-28 Thread Jean Barrett
Dear Ilske and all travelling Lacemakers,
I would like to thank Ilske for the excellent article recently 
published in the IOLI Bulletin. I am sorry I have taken so long to 
write. For those who have not seen it Ilske has given a general 
overview of Lace in Germany with a map and pin pointed the most 
important Lace centres, with short histories and details of where to 
find the lace today. It was interesting to be reminded of the places in 
Bayern which the OIDFA tour visited when the Congress was in Frankfurt. 
One day I would like to go to Sachsen and see the lace of the 
Erzgebirge. This area was still in the East when we went there. I was 
specially interested in the sample of lace you show from this area 
Ilske. I have a piece of that design and had always put it down as 
being from Spain. I will now go and relabel it!
Many thanks, Jean in Cleveland U.K.

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Re: [lace] Re: International Old Lacers

2005-04-07 Thread Jean Barrett
Any name change should be conscious of not conflicting with other 
existing organisations, particularly OIDFA which is truly 
international. Any one who has heard about IOLI knows that it is the 
American Lace Guild so what is wrong with ALGI?
Jean in Cleveland U.K.
On 6 Apr 2005, at 19:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

BarbE wrote:
What is wrong with  just .
International Lacers  Incorporated
At one point in the long tortuous discussion of this issue, someone 
made  the
thrifty suggestion that if the name were changed to International
Organization of Lacers, Inc., we wouldn't have to throw away the IOLI 
stationary  and
order new.

Devon
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Re: [lace] Videos of lacemaking

2005-03-27 Thread Jean Barrett
The Louise Colgan Milanese video is also available in PAL format. I 
have it.
Jean in Cleveland U.K.
On 26 Mar 2005, at 22:47, Jean Nathan wrote:

I believe Holly van Sciver also sells the Louise Colgan video, which I 
think
is NTSC only.

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[lace] The New Rosa Libre book

2005-03-27 Thread Jean Barrett
Good morning All,
Happy Easter everyone. This is the happiest Easter Bunny around. No 
chocolate eggs but the new book by Cathy Belleville about Rosa Libre 
Lace arrived from Roeground Supplies yesterday. I saw Pat last Saturday 
at Harrogate and asked her about the book, which she knew was on its 
way from America and she put one in the post as soon as it arrived. 
It's a lovely book with the usual meticulous diagrams and instructions. 
I can't wait to get started.
Tamara, can you answer one question I can see I want to ask, just by 
reading the book. On page 14, Figure 2-24 where Cathy is giving the 
instructions for sewing into the roll at the centre, the diagram shows 
the crochet hook under both bars of the double hitch, but the 
subsequent diagrams show the sewing only under one. Which should it be? 
or is it a case of the answer will be obvious when I try it?
I'm off now to finish  the jobs and look out some suitable thread.
Jean in Cleveland U.K.

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[lace] Comments about conventions

2005-03-20 Thread Jean Barrett
Good morning All,
I have been reading all of the comments about IOLI Conventions with 
interest. I was hoping that I might be able to come this year but it's 
not going to happen. That doesn't matter.
 Clay said that all the comments on Arachne have a great influence and 
that they are noticed by the 'Powers that Be' and others who may be 
thinking about going to events. I think that she is right but because 
of that we must make sure that anything we write is correct and not 
just personal opinion/preference. I have tried on several occasions to 
correct statements which were made about OIDFA events and I know that 
Elaine has done the same in the States. The organisation of events has 
to change from time to time, what works for one venue will not do the 
same in another. Which would be worse for an organisation to hear 
people say 'Oh I'm not going there this year, it's always the same' or 
'That sounds a bit different, I'd like to try that for a change'
Jean in Cleveland U.K. 

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[lace] The Hummingbird

2005-03-15 Thread Jean Barrett
Good morning All,
I have been having great fun over the last few weeks working the 
hummingbird patterns from Louise's video. I really have enjoyed them so 
much. I started with a rather pale version, (I'm a bit nervous of 
colour) I worked that watching the video and following step by step. 
Then I decided to work one in white with just metallics to highlight 
the braid and and see if I could remember what to do but discovered two 
snags. First because I didn't have any white silk I used cotton and 
although it was almost the same thickness as the silk it didn't pack 
together in the same way. Secondly, it is actually easier to work in 
colours as they prompt you on where to go next in the braids. I was 
going to cut it off but decided to plough on adn use it to see if I 
could remember all of the techniques. But i was enjoying myself so much 
I just had to make another one, this time using colours which might 
catch the shimmer of the hummingbird's wings.
I have taken some photo's which are on;
http://homepage.mac.com/jeanbarrett/PhotoAlbum10.html
many thanks to Louise for the lovely patterns and to the Hensels for 
continuing to produce the videos. They are an invaluable resource for 
today's lacemakers. Now how about a Rosa Libre Video?

Jean in Cleveland U.K.
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Re: [lace] block pillow making

2005-03-08 Thread Jean Barrett
And if you have a 'tray'  such as Bev described it makes it much easier 
to move the blocks around when your pattern reaches too close to the 
edge. Then you can keep your work in the best position on the pillow.
Jean in Cleveland U.K.
On 8 Mar 2005, at 04:43, Bev Walker wrote:

Hi Jenny and everyone
Your pillow looks super, excellent! - you might want to think of a
permanent 'tray'
rather than the elastic to keep the blocks in order. I have a 9-block
pillow inside a wooden frame I made from thin plywood for the base, and
scraps of trim from a lumber yard for the sides, a pain at
the corners, because I had to sand and bevel each piece to get a nice
fit - however it was worth it. The depth of the sides can be less than
that of the blocks, just make the sides deep enough to contain
everything.
--
bye for now
Bev in Sooke, BC (on ridiculously warm south Vancouver Island, west 
coast
of Canada)
Cdn. floral bobbins
www.woodhavenbobbins.com

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Re: [lace] Barry Biggins Book

2005-03-03 Thread Jean Barrett
Hi Jean and All,
I bought this book at last years NEC Fair. It is still available, I am  
sure. I am not too sure but I think I paid £10 for it. The designs are  
very attractive and like most of Barry's designs bits can be taken out  
and used in different ways. Again as the title suggests the designs can  
be used for all sorts of crafts not just lace.
Jean in Cleveland U.K.
On 2 Mar 2005, at 19:24, Jean Nathan wrote:

A book by Barry Biggins is being offered on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? 
ViewItemrd=1item=8174587180ssPageN
ame=STRK:MEWA:IT

or search for item number 8174587180
described as:
Book of Designs for Lace and Parchment by Barry Biggins
An Alphabet with Borders and Things for bobbin lace
This is the second book of patterns designed by Barry Biggins,  
suitable for
Bobbin and Needle Lace, Embroidery, Quilting and Parchment. This book
contains about 200 new designs with the prickings, along with  
borders, an
alphabet and numbers. The book is coveniently laid out in landscape  
format
with a metal comb bound spine which allows for easy access for copying  
or
photocopying. 

The photograph is a pattern for a unicorn and the publication year is  
given
as 2004.

Did a google, searched Chrysalis books, Amazon, Roseground Supplies,  
SMP
Lace, etc but couldn't find anything other than New Patterns in  
Honiton
Lace by Caroline and Barry Biggins, which this isn't.

Anyone got any information on this.
Jean in Poole
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Re: [lace] Webshots

2005-02-21 Thread Jean Barrett
Lace Express is expensive for a pattern magazine which might not have 
anything that interests you. like Tamara I subscribed for one year then 
dropped out. In Prague however there was a supplier from Spain, sorry I 
cannot remember their names, and they carried lots of back issues. They 
were at the NEC last December as well. Perhaps they also go to Lace 
events in Europe. I picked up about 3 single issues which all had 
several patterns which I liked. Much cheaper than a subscription and 
better than the web site as there you cannot see the patterns apart 
from the cover one.
Jean in Cleveland U.K.

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Re: [lace] lace exhibits in London?

2005-02-17 Thread Jean Barrett
Hello Sally,
As someone mentioned a little while ago, the Embroidery and Lace 
galleries at the V A seem to be closed at the moment. It would be 
worth phoning to ask, although there are costume galleries which 
include lace. The best 'shop' I know for antique lace is  Ann Swift's 
stall in Portabello Road market on Saturday mornings. Stall no. 1 I 
think.
Jean in Cleveland U.K.
On 17 Feb 2005, at 03:32, Sally Kathryn Nuttall wrote:

Hello all!
An eBay-seller friend of mine is going to be in London
for 2 weeks beginning at the very end of April. she
recently bought Elizabeth Kurella's Guide to Lace and
Linens, and wants to learn more about lace, so she's
planning a trip to the VA and hopes that there will
be some lace that she can study. I promised I'd ask
the group here if they had any other recommendations
for places to go.
She said If anyone in your group knows a good lace
museum in the greater London area, I'd love to hear
about it. There are so many small museums that I've
never heard of. Or a shop that specialized in antique
laces. Or even out of London--we are planning a few
day trips out of London. To Winchester and the like.
Suggestions, anyone?
Thanks,
Kathryn


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Re: [lace] Yet another wire variation of 2 Pair Invention #4

2005-02-13 Thread Jean Barrett
Hi Patricia,
I love your new invention, it's very attractive. You say that it is not 
stiff enough. Since you added the beads after you had finished, you 
could try rolling the lace before you beaded. Place the lace between 
two sheets of kitchen paper and roll over it a couple of times with 
your rolling pin.  This 'tempers' the wire and makes it stiffer. Then 
you could go on to add the beads. It may be worth a try.
Jean in Cleveland U.K. , slowly getting over the jet lag.

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Re: [lace] Re: Is it a rib

2005-01-23 Thread Jean Barrett
Hi Tamara,
Congratulations on the new braid, I hope it does turn out as a new one, 
it's always exciting when a 'mistake' turns out not bad at all. Have 
you also checked in Rudmilla Zuman's book which was published in Prague 
last summer. She had some new braids. I am sorry I cannot find my copy 
at the moment. It seems as if it has gone an it's holidays and since we 
are going later today I haven't time to look for it!
Jean in Cleveland U.K.
On 23 Jan 2005, at 00:58, Tamara P. Duvall wrote:

Yours, in frozen, sleet and snow covered Lextropolis, where I might 
have just invented another Milanese braid. I need to confirm that 
nothing *quite* like it is in my Milanese Bible (Old and New 
Testament, aka Milanese Lace; An Introduction and New Braids and 
Designs in Milanese Lace by P. Read and L. Kincaid). I'm pretty sure 
there isn't, even though, when I first started twiddling, I meant to 
use Crossover 1 (Intro). But now, it's made differently, and it looks 
different...

--
Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/
Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)
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Re: [lace] honiton questions

2005-01-21 Thread Jean Barrett
Hi Janice,
As others have already explained, when sewing in for a filling in 
Honiton you sew your pairs into the side of the pin holes (top sewings) 
whether there is a plain edge or a rolled one. You are working from the 
back in honiton lace so the effect that you are aiming for is for the 
edge of the filling to disappear behind the edge of the motif.
Jean in Cleveland U.K.
On 20 Jan 2005, at 20:01, Janice Blair wrote:

I have a question regarding doing fillings in honiton.  Where you have 
a piece that is surrounded by a rib which faces in both directions how 
do you do the sewings for the filling? 
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Re: [lace] Re: Translation ? Polish

2005-01-14 Thread Jean Barrett
I have had a quick look in the International Lace Dictionary and cannot 
find the word 'pitsipulgad' in any of the languages that are included. 
In Finnish there are 2 words pitsinpatka and pitsipatja which mean 
strip of lace and lace pillow respectively.
Jean in Cleveland U.K.
On 12 Jan 2005, at 23:04, Tamara P. Duvall wrote:

On Jan 12, 2005, at 1:10, Brian Lemin wrote:
pitsipulgad
Can anyone translate this word for me please?
Not anyone from Poland g That's Finnish, I think, or maybe Estonian; 
I recognize pitsi (lace) but nothing else...

--
Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/
Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)
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[lace] Milanese DVD

2005-01-11 Thread Jean Barrett
Many Thanks to all who replied to my query about Louise Colgan's 
Milanese Video/DVD. I did realise about the different systems we have 
on our side of the pond, and think that I specified an 'all regions' 
system when I bought my new machine, but haven't tested it yet.
Kathy Hensel was kind enough to reply to me adn while they hope to have 
someone in UK supply them they can take Sterling cheques so have asked 
for the UK price and will probably order direct.
Jean in Cleveland U.K.

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Re: [lace] Milanese Lace DVD

2005-01-10 Thread Jean Barrett
Hi Barbara,
He is lovely, (in those colours I think it is a 'He') Well done. To 
tackle Milanese and colour together for a first attempt is very brave. 
Now where can I get that Video?
best Wishes, Jean in  Cleveland U.K.
On 9 Jan 2005, at 18:26, Barbara Joyce wrote:

I wanted to share my enthusiasm for Louise Colgan's new production on
Milanese Lace (also available on VHS tape). All one needs to be 
successful
in this class is a basic knowledge of cloth stitch. Absolutely every 
step
and detail of the procedures are demonstrated and clearly shown. I 
consider
myself an intermediate lacemaker, but there were several basic 
lacemaking
techniques that were so beautifully demonstrated, that I learned a 
great
deal about bobbin lace techniques in general.

I'd never done any Milanese lace, so the beautiful braids and ways to
manipulate the colors to get them where you want them were fascinating 
to
me.

The best part is that one can be almost guaranteed success by following
along. And of course, you can stop, rewind, replay, etc., until you 
know
exactly what you're doing, then stop the program while you do it. It's 
like
having your own private teacher, with infinite patience to demonstrate
something over and over, until you get it. :-)

Here's my class project:
http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/hummingbird.jpg
Not bad for a first attempt!
Barbara Joyce
Snoqualmie, WA, USA
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Re: [lace] Re: Floral torchon questions

2005-01-09 Thread Jean Barrett
Good morning All,
The tremendous gales which lifted a large number of our roof tiles have 
died down today so I feel I can turn my mind to the question of Floral 
Torchon. Geraldine Stott is not the only designer. In La Encajera No 14 
(the handkerchief edition) there is a very pretty handkie designed by 
Bridget Cook and another one by Lia Baumeister-Jonker  whioh are both 
really 'Floral' Torchon. Bridgets pattern uses 60 cotton and n08 perle 
fro the gimp but no threads are specified for Lias pattern
Jean in Cleveland U.K.
On 9 Jan 2005, at 01:15, Tamara P. Duvall wrote:

On Jan 8, 2005, at 2:56, Alice Howell wrote (in response to Jackie's 
questions):

1.In floral torchon, other than using linen thread and thick silk 
gimp
threads is there anything to differentiate floral torchon from 
regular
torchon?

2. Are there any floral torchon patterns other than G. Stott's?

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Re: [lace] aficot?

2004-12-29 Thread Jean Barrett
Good morning Jo, Clay, Tamara and All,
Lenka advised us at the workshop I took with her to flatten the 
finished wire piece using a rolling pin as you mentioned Tamara. The 
lace and the pin are protected with a piece of kitchen paper. However 
these pieces of lace had the beads added afterwards.  You cannot 
flatten beads in  this way. The Aficot is a sort of long, shallow 's' 
shape with one end carved to a point and the other quite bulbous which 
fits in the palm of your hand so that you can exert pressure on the 
other end. As Clay said they are used to 'finish' needle lace. Lobster 
claws were said to be the original of the design. I used kitchen paper 
to protect things. Although the rolling does flatten the wires it also 
hardens them and the lace becomes stiffer. Its worth doing to a small 
piece to see if you like the effect.
Jean in Cleveland U.K.
On 28 Dec 2004, at 12:39, J.Falkink-Pol wrote:

Jean Barrett
What is a horn aficot? I didn't find it in the dictionary.
Jo Faklink
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[lace] new Zealand visit

2004-12-15 Thread Jean Barrett
I will be going to New Zealand in mid January, staying in Auckland and 
wondered if there was anything lace related i the area between then and 
mid February. Are there any NZ bobbin makers?
Jean in Cleveland U.K.

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Re: [lace] Emery Powder Pin Cushion

2004-12-01 Thread Jean Barrett
Dear Jeri,
Is this right? Synthetics hold moisture more than wool? Most peoples 
experiences of washing, (we all have to do some at some time) will have 
found that our synthetic clothes, nylon polyester etc. will dry much 
more quickly than wool or cotton. They do not seem to absorb moisture 
from the air as wool can. Can I suggest one more fabric for the inner 
of an emery pin cushion. That is pillow ticking, designed to keep the 
very fine down inside pillows.
Jean in Cleveland U.K.

On 30 Nov 2004, at 15:39, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 11/30/04 3:14:13 AM Eastern Standard Time,
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A felt lining works well for me - it keeps the emery powder inside and
makes
the cushion more comfortable to use when pushing in the pins.
Dear Lacemakers (especially those new to such things),
A reminder when using felt for pin cushions - the felt *must be made of
wool*.  If it is a synthetic felt, it will hold moisture and that will 
damage pins
left in it.


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Re: [lace] Lacemakers fair and currency

2004-11-30 Thread Jean Barrett
The method of processing cards suggested by Brenda is the one Barbara 
Fey uses when she is away from home, ie) in Prague. She wrote all of 
the details down and then processed the payment when she got back. I 
think she must have had several days worth of work after the Congress, 
but it seemed to work well.
Jean in Cleveland U.K.
On 29 Nov 2004, at 22:48, Brenda Paternoster wrote:

On Nov 28, 2004, at 10:38 pm, Janice Blair wrote:
I alway use my bank card when travelling for getting cash.  There is 
usually one at the airport even if you have to search a bit for it.  
If there is a vendor that you particularly want to buy from check if 
they have a web site and whether they take credit cards.  I know on 
my first visit to the NEC I quickly ran out of cash but that was 
yearsa ago and I think more vendors are taking plastic than before.
At the last lace day I went to Tim Parker was saying that that's 
likely to change from next year when pin  chip applies to all cards 
because the traders will need to invest in pin and chip readers, and 
many of the smaller businesses (of the type that attend lace days, 
craft fairs etc) will find it uneconomic to do so.  He did say that he 
would continue to accept plastic as though it were mail/telephone 
order - ie he'll write down your card number then process it on the 
old machine when he gets home, but he would prefer cash or cheque.

Brenda
http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/paternoster/
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Re: [lace] Re: lace-digest V2004 #370

2004-11-27 Thread Jean Barrett
Hi Faye,
This is the same museum that Elaine spoke about, just the two different 
spellings of the twon name. One is Flemish one French. Many towns in 
Belgium have this, as in Brugge, Bruges.
Jean in  Cleveland U.K.
On 27 Nov 2004, at 06:33, Faye Owers wrote:

Hi Elaine,
There is also the National Flax Museum in Kortrijk, a short train trip 
from
Brugge.  It is a very pleasant experience, as they also have some 
beautiful
lace and costumes displayed in the Museum.

Regards
Faye Owers
Shearwater
Tasmania
Australia
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  Subject: [lace] Re: lace-digest V2004 #370
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  I've also heard that the specially cultivated long thin flax 
varieties were
  lost when farmers stopped growing them.  So, even a hobbyist can 
not, today,
  grow a patch of it for self use.
  Lacemakers who visit Belgium should put the Flax Museum on a list of
  important places to visit.  This museum is in the city of Courtrai, 
an
important
  market town west of Brussels .  There you can see the entire historic
process of
  making linen thread, starting with large scale pictures of women and
children
  on their hands and knees sowing the tiny flax seeds.  The plants 
were indeed
  planted close to each other and staked in order for them to grow 
tall.  Only
  tall plants were allowed to grow-- small ones were removed,  so 
there was a
  gradual culitvation of taller plants.  When the stalks were 
harvested, they
were
  'retted' , that is, soaked in the river Lis that runs through that 
part of
the
  country,  The river water is said to have the perfect qualities to 
soften
the
  fibers.  After soaking, the stalks are beaten to remove the hard 
outer
covering
  and soften the. inner parts,  Alll these procedures are depicted in 
tableau
  scenes of  life-size figures of workers dressed in authentic old
clothing.using
  antique tools.  The scenes show exactly how the flax fibers are 
turned into
  rope, cords, and finally the very fine thread for making lace.

  Elaine Merritt
  The Lace Museum
  552 South Murphy Avenue
  Sunnyvale, CA 94086
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Re: [lace] lace thread

2004-11-25 Thread Jean Barrett
Hi Jennie,
I think that Knox's must have ceased trading in the 1960's sometime. I  
certainly bought their threads then from a regular supplier.. The Lace  
Guild very oftern has small quantities of old thread for sale at the  
AGM. It's alwasy worth looking
Jean in Cleveland U.K.
On 25 Nov 2004, at 18:16, Jenny Barron wrote:

sorry ladies and gents my finger slipped and the email I was writing  
got sent before I wrote it! I spotted these lots (in both senses) of  
linen thread on ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? 
ViewItemrd=1item=8148271405ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? 
ViewItemrd=1item=8148409738ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT

I was thinking about bidding but the quantity of thread is more than I  
will ever use. What I was wondering is how long ago did this firm go  
out of business?

jenny barron
Scotland UK
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Re: [lace] Lace parasols

2004-11-24 Thread Jean Barrett
Good morning All,
Ann Colliers book 'Colour in Lace' has several ideas for parasol covers 
and how to design them, in several different types of lace I seem to 
remember. Worth looking at for inspiration if it doesn't put you off. I 
think that is what happened to me; my parasol is still waiting for it's 
new cover. One day perhaps.
Jean in Cleveland U.K.
On 23 Nov 2004, at 15:27, Andrea Lamble wrote:

Hi All,
I have recently been lucky enough to purchase (from ebay) a couple of 
dainty antique parasols, with heavily rotted/damaged silk covers, but 
with perfect working frames. I am now in the process of removing the 
old fabric and making templates to recover the frames in new silk. My 
plan is to make a lace outer for each of them (eventually) and  can't 
decide whether to try and design my own patterns from scratch or base 
them on an existing motifs? Do I make all sections the same or do I 
try and design the lace so that each section is different? Oh 
decisions decisions!! and oh for more free time - sometimes think 
there should be more hours in the day and days in the week to fit in 
all the things I would like to do.

Has anyone out there done this sort of thing before and do you have 
any tips to pass on?

Hopefully I'll be able to post some progress photos on the web in due 
course.

Happy lacing to one and all,
from,
Andrea
in a somewhat dull Cambridge (UK).
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Re: [lace] Springett collection auction

2004-11-21 Thread Jean Barrett
On 20 Nov 2004, at 12:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, I have spent a bit of time looking at the catalogue today.  There
are soome beautifull bobbins for sale.
By now you will all be aware of my opinion that the so called lace 
makers
lamps are a generic term that has been given to oil lamps.
I agree with you about the beautiful bobbins and the prices, but I 
think that you are a bit wrong on the 'lacemakers' lamps. They are not 
and were not oil lamps. The globe stands alone in front of a candle or 
other light source to magnify the light. The candle stool had places 
fro several globes all sharing the light from one candle. I have a 
picture in a German book which shows lace makers from the Erzegeburg 
(sp?) during the war working with a water globe in front of an oil 
lamp. Although they tend now to be all called lace makers lamps I think 
that they must have been widely used by anyone who needed extra light 
for reading, writing etc before the days of oil or electric light
Jean in Cleveland U.K.

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[lace] New book info

2004-11-20 Thread Jean Barrett
Good morning All,
here is the information about the book 'Ma's Lace' which I have been 
able to find. It is about the War Lace produced in  Belgium during the 
first world War.
the book has been printed privately by the family in small numbers. (We 
have been trying to tell them that there would be a lot of interest and 
they should print more)
What are left is available from Mr. Kerry Brooksbank, Church Lane Farm, 
Vicarage Lane, Dore, Sheffield. S17 3GY. It is priced at £15 plus 
postage. Tel 0114 2365 248
Jean in Cleveland U.K.

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Re: [lace] fine linen thread -- history

2004-11-18 Thread Jean Barrett
On 17 Nov 2004, at 19:47, Alice Howell wrote:
In my reading and study of lace history, the commercial viability of 
very fine linen thread was lost in 1790 when the cotton gin was 
developed, making cotton thread commercially viable and much cheaper 
to produce than the linen.  The linen supplies that were already in 
the warehouses were used up by 1830.  After that, the only extremely 
fine threads available were silk, and later, manmade fibers.

Hi Alice,
While the development of the cotton gin undoubtabley enabled fine 
cottons to be spun it didn't kill out fine linens quite as immediately 
as you say. I bought Fine linen DMC threads (150, 200, 300) in the 
1960's. Likewise I have fine linen hanks from Harris of Cockermouth 
which date probably from the 1930's, and Knox's linen was produced 
until the 1960's I think and I have 150/2, 300/2 reels from them.
Jean in Cleveland U.K.
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[lace] new Book

2004-11-12 Thread Jean Barrett
Good morning All,
I received a new Lace book yesterday, which anyone who is interested in 
the history of Lace might like.
It is called, The Story of Ma's Laces, 1914-1918. Her response to the 
trauma of wartime.

it is written by Carol and Kerry Brooksbank and is the story of their 
Grandmothers experiences during the first world war which led her to 
the making of the most expressive and unique laces depicting war 
themes. One of the most famous of these is the portrait of King Albert 
I of Belgium aiming his rifle in the trenches.
The ISBN is 0-901100-54-4 and cost £15.
The Ma of the title was Loise Lienaux Vergauwe. The book was written by 
her daughter Yvonne Brooksbank Liuneax and completed and prepared for 
publication by her daughters Carol and Kerry. Itt contains a short 
outline of the different types of lace, examples of the lace which 'Ma' 
made while learning the craft and good photos of the various 'war' 
laces, in some cases showing the drawings/paintings which she took for 
inspiration. At the end there are photos of the 'pin cloths'(Prickings) 
which were used.
The lace is now in the  permanent collection at the Museum of costume 
and Textiles in Brussels and can be seen on request.

Jean in Cleveland U.K.
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[lace] mail

2004-11-07 Thread Jean Barrett
Hi All, I have been away for 3 days and returned to find no new 
e-mails. Is this right?
Jean in Cleveland UK

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Re: [lace] Pattern Issue

2004-10-27 Thread Jean Barrett
Hi Evelynn,
I think that DMC Retors d'Alsace 60/2 is no longer made, so you will 
need a substituate unless you can find some old stock. In Brenda's book 
'Threads for Lace' it is given as 46 wraps per cm. The nearest Egyptian 
cotton will be the 70/2. Cotton always works up  much softer than linen 
but there are no linens as fine as this being made any more. I know 
that in one of their book samples Bridget and Geraldine did use a 
cotton called Unity 150 which was a white machine thread which makes 
beautiful crisp lace. Again that is no longer available but Jennifer 
and John Ford of the UK have an equivalent, Dragonfly 140.
Jean in Cleveland U.K.
On 27 Oct 2004, at 05:59, Evelynn McCain wrote:

Dear List:
I subscribed to the lace chat.  I got many helpful responses and many
suggestions that I pose my questions to the list instead.   I am a
self-taught lacemaker. I have been making lace (off and on) for about 
10
years.  I am trying to make a piece of lace from 100 Traditional 
BOBBIN LACE
PATTERNS BY Geraldine Stott and Bridget Cook.  I tried to order the 
correct
threads (DMC Retors d'Alsace No. 60 and Coats cotton a broder, No. 18) 
from
the Lacemaker in Ohio.  I was told they are not available and that 
Egyptian
Cotton 60/2 and Pearl cotton 8 would work.  I ordered them and began 
working
the Bride  on page 37.  I am disappointed that cotton doesn't seem to 
hold
its shape well.  The obvious solution would be to use linen thread, 
but I
want bright white for a bridal handkerchief.  I am more concerned that 
the
lace doesn't look like it would hold together well.  Have any of you 
made
lace using the patterns in this book?  What thread did you use?  Does 
anyone
know of a source for Retors d'Alsace?  I thought a found an error in 
the
pattern, which has been confirmed.  Do you know if there are errors in 
other
patterns in this book?

Thank you so much for your help.
Evelynn
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Re: [lace] RE: Thank God - IT IS DONE!!!

2004-09-26 Thread Jean Barrett
Hi Sylvia,
Wonderful work, Sylvia. Keep up the lacing. That wonderful bright 
sunlight must help a lot, although in the time it took for you to 
finish the mat you must have been working by moonlight as well.
Jean in Cleveland U.K.
On 26 Sep 2004, at 06:17, palmhaven wrote:

Dear Spiders,
I just finished Miss Channer's Mat.  Tricky little devil.
You can see it and some of my other finished projects on my web site
http://home.earthlink.net/~palmhaven/
I beg your patience the pictures load vry sllloooly.
Sylvia
Deep in Tropical Texas
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Re: [lace] What is Stumpwork?

2004-09-02 Thread Jean Barrett
Hi Jean,
Just go ahead and do what you want to do. Nothing would progress if 
somebody hadn't tried it first. But if my memory serves me correctly, 
there was some machine embroidery in the Myth and Mystery exhibition; 
was there actually a class for it? I am pretty sure Deborah Robinson 
entered some. If it upsets someone just don't call it stumpwork when 
you talk to them. Ask them what they would call it.
take care , Jean in Cleveland U.K. (still recovering from the rigours 
of a Czech OIDFA tour.)
On 2 Sep 2004, at 10:32, Jean Peach wrote:

I thought I would ask this question, why?  Well I am
interested in Stumpwork, have done one or two pieces,
passed basic C  G Stumpwork.  I was thinking that
I would do machine embroidery and painted background,
with raised objects, whatever it might be, plus some
lace pieces.
Now I am being told that this is not right I am doing
something that was not done during the period that
Stumpwork was made in England.  Why not?  Surely we
need to progress with what ever we are doing, not
stand still.  The person I was speaking to was more
upset about machine embroidery, why not, why does all
the embroidery have to be done by hand, yes I have
done part of the C  G machine embroidery, this is what
gave me the idea.  Well don't put it in a lace exhibition
it will not be accepted.  So do I then do a design I
have been thinking about and join the embroiderers guild?
I am not writing this to upset anyone, I would like to
know where I stand.
Jean in Newbury
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Re: [lace] RPL Circular Mat

2004-09-01 Thread Jean Barrett
Dear Sulochona,
Your latest Romanian mat is stunning. What delightful colours, and the 
filings are lovely. Keep up the good work.
Jean in Cleveland U.K.
On 31 Aug 2004, at 15:43, Chaudhuri wrote:

Dear Lace Friendds,
On my travels between Ranchi and Bokaro (where my husband is now 
posted) I
have really enjoyed making another Romanian Point lace from Angela's 
lovely
book.  RPL certainly travels well !

Tell me what you think. The URL is
http://community.webshots.com/user/sulochona
Best wishes
Sulochona
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[lace] copyright/photographs

2004-08-27 Thread Jean Barrett
Good morning All,
This subject seems to involve so many twists and turns but just two 
points stick me. Someone (sorry I can't remember who and I accidentally 
deleted your message when I was trying to highlight a quote) said that 
people wouldn't design/create new patterns if they didn't think they 
could profit from them.
That may be true in the 'outside' commercial world but yet again I am 
sure does not apply to Lacemaking. Even people who manage to publish 
books do not make a living wage out of them, when you consider the 
years it takes to prepare, design and make samples of all of the work. 
The vast majority of new lace designs are made just because we feel the 
urge nad if friends like them we give them a copy and perhaps send them 
to our Lace guild magazine.
One the recent OIDFA tour we visited many museums and galleries. In 
some we were allowed to take photographs in others not. (It sometimes 
changed with the groups going round) This was particularly strict in 
the various schools we visited. People didn't appreciate that we wanted 
photos to show the folks back home what kind of lace was being made, 
not to copy the designs. I was goign to put some of my pictures up on 
the web today but now I'm not so sure.
Jean in Cleveland U.K.

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Re: [lace] 16th century bobbin on ebay???

2004-08-14 Thread Jean Barrett
Hi Clay and All,
This bobbin is very similar in shape to one of the bobbins recovered  
from the 'Batavia' ship wreck off Australia. It was a Dutch ship  
wrecked off the west coast of Australia in 1629, so the bobbins were  
older than that. They were featured on an Australian stamp some years  
ago and Kleinhout make reproductions of them. It would be interesting  
to see if there is a Dutch connection to this bobbin.
Jean in Cleveland U.K.
On 13 Aug 2004, at 21:56, Clay Blackwell wrote:

 Hello Spiders!
I came across the following on ebay today:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? 
ViewItemcategory=114item=6112829488

Now, I must say I'm VERY skeptical.  (1) 16th century?  says
who??  This is an awfully sophisticated turning for a bobbin
used in an art form which was merely decades old at the
time.  (2) for a dug bobbin, the sharp edges of the
turnings are awfully crisp and clean...  (3) dug from
*where*???  this bobbin doesn't look like anything I'm
familiar with from way back...
Should we launch an email offensive to the seller???
(devilish vbg).
Clay
Clay Blackwell
Lynchburg, VA
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Re: [lace] Help with paisley edging?

2004-08-12 Thread Jean Barrett
Hi Tamara,
When I first read your request fro Paisley patterns my thoughts went 
back to an edging I saw in the Exhibition at Northampton a few years 
ago. There was a most spectacular Paisley Point Ground edging there. I 
did look in the pattern book they produced but it's not in. Then I 
remembered that it must have used at least 100 pairs of bobbins, so 
probably not quite what you wanted. Actually I have just found it in 
the catalogue which came with the exhibition. It is the Paisley Pear, 
which someone else has mentioned. It's over 10 inches wide, so we'll 
say no more.
There are a couple of point ground prickings in the back of the OIDFA 
Point Ground Lace study book which are vaguely paisley-ish, the ones 
from Pecna Cipka and Tonder perhaps?
Jean in Cleveland U.K.
On 12 Aug 2004, at 00:26, Tamara P. Duvall wrote:

Gentle Spiders,
I have recently bought a dress - very pretty, and fits well, but with 
a somewhat too sexy plunge down the front (how come I didn't notice, 
when I was trying it on, that the bra is apt to peek, when I move?). 
So I thought to make some lace for it, and kill a whole flock of birds 
with one stone: the decolletage diminished and softened a bit, some 
time spent at my pillow on something for fun not for publication, and 
a chance to wear a piece of hand- and home- made lace...

The fabric of the dress is printed with all kinds of stylised flowers 
and paisley-like leaves. So I thought the lace edging should pick up 
on that, especially since I'm very fond of paisleys.

But I've looked and looked, through most of my books, and can't find a 
suitable pattern... :(  I suspect, such a pattern would -  likely - be 
of a more modern vintage, while most of those I have are 
reproductions/reconstructions of older ones.

Maybe someone here can help. I'm looking for an *existing* pattern 
(pricking and photo of finished lace; diagram would be nice, but not 
strictly necessary. I hope g) of an edging with a clear paisley/leaf 
(or feather) shape.

It has to be continuous lace, PG by preference (the fabric is silk 
georgette; the lace needs to be fine, to match that). Continental PG 
by double preference, but, I suppose, I can always flip the pricking 
if someone comes up with a Bucks one (I'm cack-handed at 
left-hand-side picots).

It has to be fairly simple - 25-35 pairs. I'll need a fair amount of 
it, and it's not a dress I'd like to wear in my coffin... :)

I want *scallops in the headside*, so please do not suggest 
insertions, or laces with a picoted but straight edge (why go to the 
trouble of making picots on a straight edge, anyway? I always change 
those to insertions, with footsides on both sides g). The fat part 
of a paisley/leaf/feather would make a nice scallop, I'm sure, the 
skinny part adding interest to the rest...

I've found a few maybe-s, but they all would need adjusting, and 
I'd as soon not; if I had the time and the will to tamper, I might as 
well try designing from scratch. Years ago, someone sent me a clipping 
from a magazine, about a Bayeux lacemaker, and the photo had just the 
thing in it, and I loved the pattern. But there was no pricking to it 
(of course not; it wasn't a *lace* magazine g) and, anyway, I can't 
find it anymore...

Yours, hopeful,
---
Tamara P Duvall http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd
Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)
  Healthy US through The No-CARB Diet:
no C-heney, no A-shcroft, no R-umsfeld, no B-ush.
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Re: [lace] Possible Downton bobbins

2004-07-30 Thread Jean Barrett
Hi Jean,
Could these be Devon Trolly bobbins? I think that Downtons are just 
plain, thin sticks with a short head (they used fine cotton) and no 
shaping to the bobbin.
jean in Cleveland U.K.
On 29 Jul 2004, at 10:39, Jean Nathan wrote:

I have just acquired some bobbins at what I think is a silly low 
price. I
suggested the seller put them on ebay, but he said he'd be quite 
satisfied
if I paid what he was asking. There are 56 Bucks thumpers, two 
oddities and
12 of what I think are Downton bobbins.

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[lace] Rising lace

2004-07-26 Thread Jean Barrett
Good morning All,
back from Prague, (minus luggage at the moment) and trying to catch up 
on all of the discussion, I have been intrigued by the many solutions 
to the problem of lace which rises up off the pricking. I have a 
feeling that part of the problem is the length of thread which 
different workers use  from the lace to the bobbin and the type of 
pillow being used. On a flat pillow with largish continental bobbins 
which tend to have a big heads, if the length of free thread is too 
short, the angle of the thread from  the pillow to the bobbin can be 
quite steep. I think that this tends to lift the lace up to make a 
straight  line. Lengthen the thread and this angle will be reduced and 
the lace will stay flat. many workers seem reluctant to work with 
longer threads thinking that they are more likely to tangle, but that 
does not happen. Any comments?
Jean in Cleveland U.K.

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[lace] Devon Trolly Lace book

2004-06-30 Thread Jean Barrett
Good morning all,
As promised a couple of days ago I have checked with Carol who has 
written and published this book and can now give you all the following 
details.
The title is 'Devon trolly Lace', the lost lace of the  East Devon 
Coast, by Carol McFadzean.
ISBN 0-9547683-0-2 . Published by the author price £16.50 . Carol will 
post copies. please add £2-50 in UK, £3-50 for Europe and £6-00 for the 
rest of the world. Cheques in GBP. (pounds sterling) only. Sheila 
Perrin of SMP supplies may have copies in September.

The address to write to is, Mrs. C. McFadzean,Barn Cottage, Broadway, 
Woodbury, EXETER, Devon .
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As Sonja said previously, the book gives the history of a find at the 
Woodbury village school of a Lace dealers bag containing over 700 
samples of lace. 40 of the patterns have been recreated in  this first 
book, most of them are point ground laces. My copy only arrived this 
morning so I'm going to read it now!
Jean in Cleveland U.K.

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Re: [lace] New book Devon Trolly Lace

2004-06-28 Thread Jean Barrett
Good morning Faye and All,
Carol's book about East Devon Trolly Lace is self published and 
available from Carol herself. I will ask her if she would mind having 
her address published or her e-mail, also whether any of the usual 
suppliers will be carrying it. She will be going to Prague shortly, 
(she is one of the UK Council members`) but I will try to get the info. 
to you as soon as I can.
Jean in Cleveland U.K. (waiting for my copy by post)
On 27 Jun 2004, at 23:20, Faye Owers wrote:

Dear Sonja and fellow lacemakers,
Is this book available to the general public yet?
Do you know the publisher?
Thanks in advance
Faye Owers
Shearwater
Tasmania
Australia
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Re: [lace] Kant Kwartaal

2004-06-09 Thread Jean Barrett
Hi Bev,
I have or, it seems had that magazine. I think that I must have passed 
it on, as I can only find the pattern now. I have one copy of the 
magazine though dated february  1992. and I think the strawbeey pattern 
would be from one just beforee or after that. I think that I subscribed 
for a year at the OIDFA Utrecht congress. On looking through the 
magazine I cannot see any credits on any of the patterns. The Editor is 
Jolanda de Boer-Van Nes and the editorial address is Linja, Postbus 
3016, 2301 DA Leiden. The Netherlands. Obviously this is more than 10 
years old but could be a starting point for you.
Jean in Cleveland U.K.
On 8 Jun 2004, at 17:07, Bev Walker wrote:

Hi everyone
Does anyone know of the publication Kant Kwartaal? It would have been
published in The Netherlands probably in the 1970s. I would like to 
find
out who designed a particular pattern called Aardbei , a mat with
strawberries going around it.
I have the pattern pages, but alas no date on them, not even in the
colofon, and no names credited.
Thanks if anyone has any info.
--
bye for now
Bev in Sooke, BC (west coast of Canada)

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[lace] Cleveland Lace Guild

2004-06-09 Thread Jean Barrett
Good morning All,
here in Cleveland (UK) we are continuing to enjoy lovely warm weather. 
Just right for a Lace Day and Saturday 12th June is our 25th. All are 
most welcome of course. E-mail me for directions if you need them, but 
it also sees the publication of our new Pattern book. I have posted 
details on our web site
www.communigate.co.uk/ne/clevelandlaceguild
There are details here about a reprint of our tablecloth squares 
booklet as well. I think that the recent report  in the IOLI bulletin 
from the Finger-lakes Guild who made one has stirred interest in that 
again.
Prices are in £ Stirling I am sorry, but we could be open to 
negotiation. Contact me privately.
Jean in Cleveland U.K.

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Re: [lace] Prague

2004-06-07 Thread Jean Barrett
Hi Margot,
I can make lunch Sunday for an Arachne 'meet'. Can't do breakfasts as 
I'm not staying on campus and like you have Council lunch on Saturday.
Jean in Cleveland U.K.
On 6 Jun 2004, at 21:58, Margot Walker wrote:

What's happened to the idea of an Arachne get-together in Prague.  I 
think Elaine was gathering the names.  I suggest breakfast or lunch on 
Sun.  (That's a purely selfish suggestion, since I'm trying to get 
Canadians together for breakfast on Sat., and there's a working lunch 
for Council members on Sat.)

Margot Walker in Halifax on the east coast of Canada
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Re: [lace] RE: Le Pompe

2004-05-27 Thread Jean Barrett
Hi Marie,
The patterns in 'Le Pompe' don't look much like to-days patterns 
because they're not. They are some of the oldest patterns ever 
published and both the style of lace and the method of drawing patterns 
has changed over the last 4 centuries. If you get ho;d of a copy of the 
book already mentioned published by Ruth Bean you will find some 
patterns redrawn to make them workable by todays methods. Another 
alternative is 'Elizabethan Lace' by Gill Dye which has some patterns 
based on the 'Le Pompe' patterns. Most tend to be mainly plaits making 
edgings designed to be attached onto clothes and furnishings rather 
than on edges.
Jean in Cleveland U.K.
On 26 May 2004, at 13:59, Mary Robi wrote:

Hello Arachne's,
In my thirst for lace knowedge, I've been reading the histories of 
lace and have seen mentioned in several places (web sites and books) 
the pattern book Le Pompe. I've seen a few patterns here and there, 
but not translated into anything that really looks like today's 
patterns

I've searched all the book sites I know of and the book is apparently 
out of print. Do any of you know where I can get patterns from the 
book, or where I might get a copy? Have the patterns from the book 
been interpreted and translated into patterns that are familier to us 
today?

I've seen pictures, drawings really from the book, but it wasn't in a 
form I could understand as a pattern.

Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.
Mary
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Re: [lace] lace-exhibition and new website

2004-05-18 Thread Jean Barrett
Hi Liduina and All,
What a lovely site. I have only just now had time to take a proper look 
at it. There was a lovely surprise waiting fro me as well. In the 
Vitrine which is in  the Hotel de Ville I recognised my design for the 
Christmas candles. What a thrill. It is well worth sending patterns to 
magazines,  when you find that at least one other lacemaker thinks your 
pattern worth recreating. Thank you.
Jean in Cleveland U.K.
On 16 May 2004, at 07:28, Liduina wrote:

Hello everyone,
Our lace group celebrated his 20th anniversary last week and on this
occasion we had a lace exhibition.
We also opened a little website to present our group, which sort of 
lace we
make, our activities and the history of lace in our town (Ath in 
Belgium),
it's only in french but there are also many pictures.
The pictures of our exhibition also are on the site : 
www.athdentelle.be .
It's the very beginning of the site and we have to add  some more
informations on it, so we'd be very pleased if you have some advices to
ameliorate it.

Liduina from a sunny Ath in Belgium.
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Re: [lace](Branscombe Point and) Tape laces

2004-05-14 Thread Jean Barrett
Good morning All,
One of the things that nobody seems to have mentioned in the 
Branscombe/Battenburg saga is that, from what I have seen, Branscombe 
Tape is narrower and finer, and has no gathering thread along the 
edges. You have to either ease the tape round corners or put in a 
gathering thread yourself. Battenburg tape is much coarser and has a 
loose thread along each edge which you can gather up to help you to 
make the tape fit the pattern. I am not sure if this is solely a modern 
development but it does seem to be the case now.
Jean in Cleveland U.K.
On 13 May 2004, at 17:01, Clay Blackwell wrote:

Hi Liz -

I agree with you that Branscombe Point and Battenberg are
different, 
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[lace] Needlepins

2004-05-12 Thread Jean Barrett
Good morning All,
If you are in the market to buy a needle pin can I share with you my 
experience. When I started Honiton lace, many moons ago, I bought a 
simple, Springetts, wooden job. Very nice. Found it almost impossible 
to use. Like Leonard I tried a few times until I'd thoroughly mashed up 
the pinhole and the thread and then resorted to a hook. Some time later 
I treated myself to a lovely bone handled model. Got to be better, Yes? 
No. After years of struggling and mixed results I went back to my 
wooden model and found no problems. I found that the bone one had a 
thick, about a quarter inch base where the pin was inserted and this 
stopped me getting at the right angle to the sewing. The Wooden one 
tapered  into the pin, so that the handle was almost an extension of 
the pin. Something to look out for when you do buy. It can  be used for 
other fine laces as well. Duchesse and Milanese come to mind.
Jean in Cleveland U.K.

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Re: [lace] Braid lace/tape lace

2004-05-12 Thread Jean Barrett
Hi Jacquie,
Remember that Branscombe was made at first with bobbin made tape, which 
was then sewn down and filled with needle fillings. Quicker to make 
than the complex honiton motifs.
Jean in Cleveland U.K.
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I am in the middle of writing a short explanation of what braid lace 
is.

In the process I am trying to add a brief translation between US and
English language (in the same way as I do for cloth stitch -ctc- and 
whole stitch -
either ctc or ctct depending on where you are/been taught by) so 
people can be
aware that they have to be conscious of which language they are 
reading.

I was always been taught that laces such as Russian and Milanese are 
braid
laces and some of the fillings are done with plaits.  Tape lace is a 
machine
made tape tacked onto the pattern and secured with sewing and needle 
made
fillings.

However, since I have been exposed to American terminology on Arachne 
I have
been very aware that as you refer to plaits (in lace and hair) as 
braids, it
is necessary that you refer to the hand made edges as tapes.

So, my question is, what generic term do you normally use to describe 
what I
would think of as a tape lace to make it clear that it is not hand 
made bobbin
lace but a mix of machine tape and needlelace?

Many thanks, Jacquie

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[lace] Magazine costs

2004-05-07 Thread Jean Barrett
Hello Everyone,

I have been interested to read of the costs of the Spanish magazine 
l'Encaje. I haven't subscribed for quite a time, but wonder if a lot of 
the increase is due to post charges? I was quite shocked when I went to 
our local post office yesterday to price the cost of posting a pattern 
book our Guild is producing. It is some 25 pages long in a plastic 
binder. For the UK the cost of postage will be 75p., into Europe about 
£1.50 and fro American and the rest of the world almost £2.50. Since 
the projected cost of the booklet is £6 the postage will add a 
considerable amount to the cost. The Spanish publication I know uses a 
lot of heavy card to print the patterns so that must add a lot to the 
postage.
Jean in Cleveland U.K.

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Re: [lace] Fwd: [lace-chat] Prague

2004-05-06 Thread Jean Barrett

From: Janice Blair [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: May 2, 2004 14:09:34 EDT
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [lace-chat] Prague
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I am going to be in Prague in June, unfortunately too early for 
OIDFA, but I would like to ask a question about currency.  Will the 
Euro be in use or will it still be crowns?
Good morning All,
It will definitely still be crowns in Prague, although like many 
popular tourist areas there will be places/shops who will accept 
anything legal. As I understand things ATM's are not as common as we 
are used to in this country or the USA, so some currency to start might 
be useful. I was told that travellers cheques were difficult as they 
had to be changed at Banks and finding one when you need one and when 
they are open is always a problem.
Hope this helps,
Jean in Cleveland U.K..

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[lace] Fine threads

2004-05-02 Thread Jean Barrett
Good morning All,
On  the subject of fine threads; I was at the Lace Guild AGM in 
Scarborough, North Yorks. ( remember Scarborough Fair?) last weekend 
and I found on the sales table a reel of Knox's Linen Lace thread size 
350/2! It doesn't appear in Brenda's book, so I've sent her a sample. 
Now the problem is, what do I do with the other 196 yards? Was this the 
thread which was used for honiton, before cotton was widely available. 
I am not sure when Knox's was in business. That could be a useful 
addition to the threads book if those which are not now available had 
their dates of production noted.
It was a lovely weekend, the sun shone, it was warm and the cliffs were 
covered in wild primroses in full bloom.
Jean in Cleveland U.K.

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Re: [lace] Finca cotton thread

2004-04-27 Thread Jean Barrett
Hi Rikki and All,
Yes I used Finca recently for Carolinas' Arachne spider pattern and it 
is super. Barbara Underwood is recommending it for Bedfordshire Lace 
now, as it is so smooth and 'clean'
In the UK 'Roseground' Lace supplies are stocking it in several sizes.
Jean in Cleveland .U.K.
On 26 Apr 2004, at 22:08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I got some Finca cotton thread from Biggins the other day and I think 
it is a
beautiful thread to work with, so easy to keep a neat tension.  Has 
anyone
else tried this thread? I think this is a thread I shall be using a 
lot.  I
believe Biggins are importing it from Spain and I've certainly not 
seen it
anywhere else in the UK.  I took a peek at their website too and the 
coloured Finca
threads look great if you're into colour.

Best wishes
Rikki
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Re: [lace] Re: Ithaca Lace Day

2004-04-15 Thread Jean Barrett
Good morning All,
Oh how I wish I could join you all at Ithaca, although I would have to 
come a great deal further than Tamara even. her description of Rosa 
Libre and the name Cathy Bellevile would decide that as number one on 
my list. I have Cathy's Chrysanth lace book and just love it. Apart 
from the designs what sets it off fro me is the whole section on how to 
design your own shapes. She is positively encouraging us to go on and 
develope our own style. I think that Rosa Libre might have the same 
possibilities.
At the recent Harrogate Lace Day near here, Sandy Woods was the speaker 
and put out a small display of her work. I have seen some of it before, 
(The big 'S for Serpent on the cover of the second Milanese book by 
Pat Read is hers) Some of you may have seen her own book on colour in 
lace. But I was struck that her method of working and the way in which 
she guides the movement of each and every thread so that the colours 
blend 'just so' seem to be very rigid. There is no latitude or room to 
develop or do your own thing. It may be a revolution, but it seems to 
be a dead end, while Cathy's revolution is not over yet. Has anyone 
worked Sandi's pattern which is on the web site for the IOLI lace week? 
She had it at Harrogate and I still think I would like to see it in 
white!
Jean in Cleveland U.K.
Which class to take?  Not such an easy choice.  What is this Rosa 
Libre?
It's a Lace Revolution in progress... g Cathy Bellevile has come up 
with several ways of making 3-dimensional BL elements, in colour, and 
using just a few pairs. *Continuously* -- none of the add a few, 
remove a few business...

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Re: [lace] Re: Venetian Gros Pt. book

2004-04-13 Thread Jean Barrett
Another Needlelace book, suitable for beginners or those who would like 
to have some reference book, but might not become too involved with the 
craft is one by Pat Earnshaw. it is in the Merehurst Embroidery Skills 
series and entitled 'NeedleLace'. My copy was published in 1991 by 
Merehursy ltd. ISBN 1- 85391-158-5. there is no price in my copy but I 
know that it wasn't very expensive, probably £5-£6. It has a very good 
historical section, good photos and diagrams which are very clear. 
There are also lots of ideas and examples from historical and 
contemporary sources.
Jean in Cleveland U.K.

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[lace] Witch Stitch

2004-04-12 Thread Jean Barrett
Good Morning Carolina and All,
I have just finished Carolina's Witch Stitch Spider which I started 
last weekend. It was really interesting to work and although I made a 
real mess of the first leg with the serpentina braid the final result 
is not too bad. I used the recommended Finca 80 thread and it is 
lovely. I know that Barbara Underwood is recommending it for 
Bedfordshire lace now. I found it very strong and smooth to work with. 
Well worth a try if you are having problems with weak threads. I know 
it comes in no.40 as well, and according to Brenda's book lots of other 
sizes. Roseground Lace supplies keep it in the UK.
Now, what do I do with my large arachne spider? t-shirt? Bag? Hat? 
Watch out for her at Scarborogh and Prague.
Thanks Carolina it's a lovely design.
Jean in Cleveland U.K.

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Re: [lace] Setting up a web site

2004-04-06 Thread Jean Barrett
Hi Liz,
Good luck with the web site, I'm looking forward to it already! yes do 
please give the name of the designer if known, and say own design if 
that is appropriate. It helps people to find a design if they would 
like to make it for themselves and if it is not your own it may stop 
you being pestered with requests for a copy.
Jean in Cleveland U.K.
On 6 Apr 2004, at 03:08, Elizabeth Ligeti wrote:

A friend is prepared to set up a web site for me with my lace 
displayed, and
I wonder if anyone can give me a few tips.
I plan to go to a Freebie site - geocities, or Angel..? or somesuch.  
Are
there any good sites, - or any very bad ones to avoid?
Are there any special do's and don't's with selecting a name?
Any helpful hints would be appreciated.  I am totally outside my league
here, but would like to do it anyway!!
I plan to have both BL and NL, and (DD) Helen will join in later on.
Is it necessary, or advisable, to put the source of the pattern used - 
eg A
Springett's pattern under the picture of some Beds lace?

I would appreciate any guidance you can give.
from Liz in Melbourne, Oz,
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Re: [lace] Thread facts

2004-03-25 Thread Jean Barrett
Hi Susie,
But for whatever reason, here in England we can buy Tanne cops in a 
wide variety of colours. I have pinks, greens, red (I don't seem to go 
much on blues) in my drawer right now. Actually one of the things on my 
list for Saturday and Harrogate Lace Day is some 50 in a pale turquoise 
shade. I think that will come in the cotona range on a small cotton 
reel.
Jean in Cleveland U.K.
On 24 Mar 2004, at 14:37, C. Johnson wrote:

Lacemakers

In Regard to Maderia thread my Austrialian lace friend sent me this
information :
The thread all of Europe, Australia and New Zealand called Cotona has 
been
discontinued. The thread that Europe and Australia calls Madeira Tanne 
is
still produced. For some reason Madeira Tanne was called Cotona in the 
USA
and there lies the confusion. The cotona was sewing cotton and was
available in a range of colours, whereas the Tanne is lace thread and 
is
available only on larger cops in white, ecru and black. Madeira Tanne 
is
still available. The word Tanne means cotton. Judith Markham

Susie Johnson
Morris, IL
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[lace] Working Covers.

2004-03-16 Thread Jean Barrett
Good morning All,
Has anyone out there tried working on a smooth, plastic cover cloth? I 
had read about them, 'somewhere' and when I saw some at the NEC last 
year decided to buy a couple to try. I know that in France many people 
work with a smooth piece of leather under their bobbins. The one I 
bought is a thickish, strong, clear plastic, round and with a hole cut 
in the centre. I am working a piece lace with lots of sewings and 
constantly having to work over pins. It is perfect for that, but I also 
found when doing a long braid outline that it seemed to help the speed 
of the work and the tension. The bobbins move freely on the smooth 
surface and hang straight down, whereas with a fabric cover cloth they 
have to be placed and tensioned by hand. I must admit I do not like the 
noise they make , it's a fairly hard surface but can put up with that 
for the other benefits it gives.
Jean in Cleveland U.K.

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Re: [lace] webshot

2004-03-07 Thread Jean Barrett
Hello Ann-Marie,
There are some lovely laces on your album pages. I particularly liked 
the picture of the cottage, the last one. I have done the Korlelati one 
and I bought another from the Swedish Guild in Nottingham I think, but 
have not seen that one before. Do you know where the pattern is from?
best Wishes, Jean in Cleveland U.K.
On 6 Mar 2004, at 10:28, Ann-Marie Lördal wrote:

I have finally mounted some of my bobbinlace and updated my webshot. 
It is
Cottage and The ladies from Vadstena. I have some more to mount but 
that is
more difficult than making the lace sometimes!

Ann-Marie
http://community.webshots.com/user/annma1
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Re: [lace] Re: Out of print? and new book that looks interesting...

2004-02-28 Thread Jean Barrett
Hi Jane,
Well done on finding that new book on Lace from the VA. I for one will 
be looking for it when it is published on 29th April. (That's according 
to the VA site) The info you copied from the Tesco site(I didn't know 
they sold books) seems to be the same as that from the museum flier. 
The price is the same. I wonder what Amazon will charge? Isn't it 
typical of museums though that something which I think will be of great 
interest to the lace making community has had little or no advanced 
publicity. Where were the adverts in the last Lace magazine, where are 
the handouts at the lace fairs etc. It's the same mentality that led 
the Northampton museum to run off twelve copies at a time of their 
pattern book when they mounted a lace exhibition the other year, so it 
was always out of stock.
Jean in Cleveland U.K.
On 25 Feb 2004, at 18:28, Jane Partridge wrote:
However, a couple of entries further
down I found a new one, Lace, no author quoted, available for pre-
order, due at the end of April. So I clicked the information button, 
and
it came up as:

  VA
Lace
Hardback 1-85177-418-1
Published: 30 Apr 2004 - Publisher: V  A Publications
Available to pre-order, normally delivered on release date
Tesco Price: £30.00

Summary:

Clare Browne has selected examples across the full range of designs and
fashions, to demonstrate the skill and variety lace-makers have 
achieved
in their work. She explores the history of lace-making from its origins
in the late fifteenth century, showing how patterns and techniques
developed to serve the fashions of the day. Lace-makers became more
adventurous as technical developments in needle and bobbin lace opened
up new possibilities, while later sophistication in design brought
astonishing naturalistic effects, particularly in the depiction of
flowers and plants. Specially photographed details provide a feast for
the eye as well as a survey of exquisite craftsmanship. This book will
be additionally valuable as a record of important parts of a collection
which by its nature is too fragile to be displayed. It also offers a
wide-ranging survey of the art and craft of lace-making down the ages
that will appeal to needlework enthusiasts, designers, students and all
those interested in historical fashion.

Looks as if it might be an interesting one to look out for, in a few
months' time.  V  A, of course, is the Victoria and Albert Museum in
London.
--
Jane Partridge
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[lace] New book

2004-02-28 Thread Jean Barrett
Hi All,
 I have just checked the Amazon site here in UK and the New book due 
out on April 29th-30th
Lace from the VA museum by Clare Browne ISBN 1-85177-418-1 Published 
price £30 is on Amazon at £21. A good saving if you are prepared to 
take the risk on the book without reviews etc. I know there is so much 
lace in the museum that no one ever sees and unless you have the time 
etc to be able to plan a private show , and also know what to ask for, 
it remains hidden. I was able to arrange a session with the curator, 
who turned out to be Clare Browne, some years ago now looking 
specifically for Spanish Frisado de Valladolid. They didn't think that 
they had any, but from my descriptions and an old exhibition (1915) I 
think, we found the most exquisite piece. I am pleased to say that is 
now on display, but it hadn't been seen for at least 50 years. I am 
hoping that the book contains some similar pieces.
Jean in Cleveland U.K.

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[lace] Is everyone on holiday?

2004-02-22 Thread Jean Barrett
Good morning All,
Is it just me or has everyone gone away for the weekend? Only 2 males 
yesterday and 3 this morning. Or have I messed up my mailboxes, Again?
Jean in Cleveland U.K.

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Re: [lace] Thread choice, again

2004-02-17 Thread Jean Barrett
Hi Tamara,
As well as the Moravia linen thaat Patty mentioned there is also linen 
thread by Goldschild from Switzerland. The one labelled 66/3  is 
equivalent to 40/3 and comes out at 22 wraps//cm. also a lovely range 
of colours although I'm not sure how many.
Jean in Cleveland U.K.
On 17 Feb 2004, at 03:49, Tamara P. Duvall wrote:

Gentle Spiders,

I'm working on getting the first of my Windrose Variations 
(Christmas ornaments) into a publish-able format, and have run into a 
problem... In my usual, long-winded way, let me describe it.

There's not much room for enlarging/reducing of the pricking... The 
prerequisites are: a) the ornament, as a whole, can't be but *so* big, 
b) the base thread is thicker than the (metallic) worker for the 
best effect, c) 2-ply is better than 3-ply and linen is better than 
cotton for the base thread, d) the threads ought to be easy to 
obtain, e) we're thinking *colour*.

OK. The metallic is no sweat; several -- easily available, from a 
multitude of suppliers -- brands can be used. It's the base thread 
that's giving me fits...

My first two (completed; there are a few which had been ditched 
early on g) samples were made in Madeira Tanne/Cotona 20/2 cotton. 
The thread worked very well for size (though the final results are a 
touch limp), but I'm not sure it's still available (the thread came 
from my stash). OTOH, it gave me a point of reference (Brenda 
Paternoster's Threads for Lace); it has a wrap ratio of 24, so I 
thought finding a substitute would be relatively easy...

Not so :)
Remember: I'm looking for *linen* and for a *2-ply* and for *colour*...
The same (24) wrap in linen (that I happened to have on hand) is 
Bockens 50/2. It works up a *little* finer than Madeira Tanne 20, and 
would, probably, be the thinnest acceptable. *If* it were available 
in colours.. So far as I'm aware, it's only available in white.

I had some Bockens 35/2 on hand (lots of lovely colours available, if 
not in my personal stash g), and tried that.  At a 20 wrap it's *a 
possible*, but on the outermost end of the spectrum; it's almost too 
thick, which makes the whole difficult to tension (and to get the 
seed-beads sewn on).

So, what I'm asking is this:

Of all the *2-ply* linen threads listed in Brenda's little book, in 
the 21-24 wrap range of thickness... *Which* are available in 
colour? And *where* can I (or anyone reading the IOLI Bulletin) get 
them?

Yours, somewhat bummed out; we had Presidents' Day today which, in 
real terms translates to no mail, no library, no bank service... 
And no newspaper, because we get it at the U, and the students are on 
vaccation (again!). The no mail was the hardest blow, however; I'm 
still waiting for my copy of Lace... :) *On top of which*, I doubt all 
of our past and present Presidents are all that happy to be celebrated 
together, like some Presidential baby mush... g
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Formerly of Warsaw, Poland
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[lace] Copying patterns

2004-02-15 Thread Jean Barrett
Good morning All,
I wonder if anyone else has had this problem. Some designers print out 
their patterns on coloured paper so that they cannot be reproduced by 
photocopying. I understand this as they do not want their designs sold 
on or even passed on to other people. But I do not like to prick 
through the master copy of a design. I want to keep it absolutely 
accurate for reference, or reuse (by me) I have discovered that if you 
can scan the design into a PhotoShop type program on the computer, it 
has a manipulation setting that allows you to remove the colour. Print 
this and you have a copy of the pricking. I print straight onto blue 
card, cover with matt plastic and am ready to go.
Jean in Cleveland U.K. Dull and misty this morning, but all the croci 
are in flower on the stray and my rosemary bush is covered in blossom. 
I thought it came from the Mediterranean?

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Re: [lace] Looking for patterns of Bobbinlacer

2004-02-01 Thread Jean Barrett
Good morning Sherry,
There is a pattern for a bobbin lace maker in the book Nyplatkaamme, 
Let's make bobbin Lace by Eeva-Liisa Kortelahti. It was published in 
1988, ISBN 951-99922-3-5. I am not sure if it is still available but 
shoulf be in the IOLI library if nowhere else. It is worked in linen 
thread and I have seen it reduced in size  and worked finer. It is 
quite straight forward to work and I think very pretty.
Jean in Cleveland U.K.
On 31 Jan 2004, at 16:34, Celtic Dream Weaver wrote:

  I was just looking at some pictures of lace displays on some website 
which right now...I don't know what the website was but I saw a lace 
picture of a bobbinlacer. Does anybody out there know where I can find 
patterns of bobbinlacers done in bobbinlace. I would love to make 
something like that. Thanks for whatever info you can give to me in 
advance.
Sherry
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[lace] printing designs

2004-02-01 Thread Jean Barrett
Good morning All,
 Is there anyone out there who can help me? reply privately of course.
I am using an iMac machine, scanning prickings to prepare pattern 
sheets. If I print out direct from PhotoShop I get a clear image. If I 
put the scan into Word I get a clear image, but it is very awkward to 
add text and other images in that format. If I drop the scan into 
Appleworks it is easy to add text and move things around but the 
resulting printout is hopeless. The text is OK but the pattern is sort 
of pixillated and completely useless as far as publishing goes. Any 
ideas gratefully received before this Mac goes through the window.
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Re: [lace] expensive bobbin

2004-01-28 Thread Jean Barrett
Good morning All,
Whatever the story behind this bobbin, it is certainly very beautiful. 
The story that was suggested may not be too far off the mark. It would 
certainly not be one of a bucketload that was made to commemorate  a 
single engagement during the early days of the First World War. With 
the wooden shaft and only silver top and tail it would be quite 
useable, I think. I have several all silver bobbins, (wedding 
anniversary, job leaving bobbins) and they are quite awkward to use. 
The difference in weight makes my fingures stumble over them on the 
pillow. Gold would be hopeless in this respect. It's much too heavy.
Jean in Cleveland U.K.

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Re: [lace] Extra work for Tutors

2004-01-25 Thread Jean Barrett
Dear Peggy,
This appears to be an escalating problem for teachers of adult 
education classes across the UK. I do not teach a class now but have 
close friends who do and attend one FE class myself and that tutor has 
her own ways of dealing with the problem, most not to be recommended. I 
am not sure if the EC is to blame, I think it is the government who are 
not willing to supply funds for non vocational classes. They cannot see 
the use of classes which do not lead to a qualification of any sort. 
The social aspects do not seem to count.
In this area most of the teachers are trying to set up private classes, 
perhaps in a community centre or church hall. It means more work for 
the teacher, who will have to arrange for insurance perhaps but will 
get you away from the silly office people who think that if you have 
prepared a work plan someone else could come in and cover your class if 
you were ill. Is this an area where the Lace Groups in different areas 
could step in? They could hire a hall/room and 'employ' a lace teacher 
much as the LEA's do, or would this be opening more problems with 
employment acts and the like.
Jean in Cleveland U.K.
On 24 Jan 2004, at 16:55, Peggy Lovelace-Carr wrote:

Dear Friends in Lace

I would like to know how all the Lace Tutors in the UK are coping with 
the
amount of paperwork we have to do now for the EU regulations. 
 
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[lace] pattern query

2004-01-24 Thread Jean Barrett
Good morning All,
And a special thankyou to all who wrote with your ideas for the 
presentation of oversize patterns. The most popular idea seems to come 
down on the side of split in half and give centre line markers. That 
makes it possible to use the scanner at home, until we all get A3 
printers enlarging from A4 to A3 is a copy shop job. I will however 
look into the possibility of binding folded pages in with the smaller 
ones. I think that it will be plastic comb bound. We are aiming to 
publish in June. More details nearer the time.
Now I have a Saturday treat. The IOLI magazine arrived this morning, so 
once the washing is on, I am going to sit and read it:))
Jean in cold Cleveland U.K.

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[lace] patterns

2004-01-22 Thread Jean Barrett
Good morning All,
Can I canvas opinions on how patterns are presented in books. The 
background to this is that our Lace Guild is preparing a book of 
patterns to be published for our 25th Anniversary. We have collected 
designs from many different lacemakers and they are of many types of 
lace and many different sizes. The book will be A4 size, 21mm. or 8.3 
inches wide, less a bit for binding. Some patterns are larger than 
this. If you were buying a book would you prefer to have such patterns 
cut in half, probably with an overlap so that you can put them together 
again, or would you prefer them to be reduced with the % enlargement 
noted so that you can print them out actual size yourself?
Any ideas will be much appreciated. yes you have guessed I am the lucky 
person who said they would prepare the patterns for printing.
Jean in Cleveland U.K.

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Re: [lace] Heart Pattern

2004-01-19 Thread Jean Barrett
Good morning All,
Julia before everyone rushes around trying to find the book you 
mentioned 'A Nosegay of Hankies', it is a very old book now and I 
should think that it is out of print. Certainly the 'phone number is 
very out of date. Anyone wanting to see a copy should try their Guild 
lending libraries first perhaps.
Jean in Cleveland U,K.
On 18 Jan 2004, at 23:28, julia wallace wrote:

I was recently given a pattern book from a lady helping me with my 
project.  It's called A Nosegay of Hankies - 15 new designs by Beryl 
Gorse.  They're fine torchon edgings (sorry, can't remember what type 
of lace you required).  There are a no. of hankie edgings in it with 
hearts and fans, Lydia, Emily, Julie patterns in particular.  The 
contact at the front is Larkfield Crafts, Hilary Ricketts, 4 Island 
Cottages, Mapledurwell, Basingstoke, Hants, tel: Hackwood 6585.

Not sure if it's any help.  Suspect Vivienne from Biggins has probably 
already contacted you by now, as i'm sure from her abundance of 
fantastic patterns at least one will fit the bill.

Julia

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Re: [lace] teaching classes

2004-01-18 Thread Jean Barrett
Hi Sharon,
A smaller alternative to the 'snake' would be to draw a leaf sort of 
shape, perhaps 1 and a half to 2 inches long. With suitable colours, in 
pearl cotton or similar this can be turned into a fish. You can add an 
eye with a bead and bundle the pairs at the end just as you do with the 
snake, but careful cutting can turn the threads into a fan tail. It can 
be worked a second time in half stitch as well. They can be mounted on 
card and taken home to show off. I know a friend used this at a Guide 
camp to introduce lace, and I have usd this at taster classes where we 
knew tha most of the learner would be children.
Jean in Cleveland U,K,
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On Saturday, January 17, 2004, at 10:56 PM, rick sharon wrote:

Dear Lorelei and all you other kind spiders who have responded.  I'm
beginning to revise my opinion about using the snake as a starter 
project
since a couple of you pointed out some areas of potential difficulty.
Perhaps the boring bandage might be best after all?  I hadn't thought 
of
tape lace as a second choice.  I do have Pam Nottingham's Bobbin Lace
Making  it's the book I used to teach myself  20 yrs ago and has been 
as
much my bible as the Cookbook :)  I have to admit though, I 
completely
skipped the tape lace lessons because they didn't look like real 
lace to
me.  What is the opinion of  other lacers?  Would tape lace grab you?  
One
of the laces suggested is more or less a meander with sewings in the 
middle
of the loops.  Sorry to keep bugging you, but I don't want to have to
re-invent the wheel when I know that there might have been others in 
a
similar situation.  Thanks.   Sharon  on dull Vancouver Island

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Re: [lace] Re: Question about Convention

2004-01-17 Thread Jean Barrett
Good morning All,
I have been interested in the comments about the IOLI convention, being 
only a new member I knew little about it, (and my magazine has still 
not arrived yet), but I did have a little to do with the OIDFA Congress 
when it came to UK in 2002. The purpose of the Congress is to meet 
other lacemakers, take classes, have fun but also make money. it is 
thanks to the profit made at the Congress that OIDFA is able to offer 
members in Eastern Europe a reduced joining fee this year. Costs 
between planning and event can spiral, always upwards. In the UK 
colleges are realising that they can supplement their incomes by 
letting out rooms during holiday times, so they are no longer as cheap 
as they were. OIDFA does offer its Congress organisers a comprehensive 
pack of guidelines for the organisation of a congress and the 
organising committee reports to the executive at regular intervals.
I'm sorry you missed Nottingham Nicky, it was a wonderful congress.
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Re: [lace] straw pillows

2004-01-15 Thread Jean Barrett
Hi Jenny,
If your straw pillow is newly made, it will have been treated in some 
way before manufacture. If it is an older one I would go for baking. It 
sounds like it will kill any bugs rather than just putting them into 
hibernation for a while!
Jean in Cleveland U.K.
On Wednesday, January 14, 2004, at 08:50 AM, Barron wrote:

Hi there, can anyone remind me how best to treat a newly acquired straw
pillow? I've no reason to suspect it is infected with beasties but is 
it
better to assume it is? Also I can't remember whether it's better to 
bake it
or freeze it. It has a wooden base with a wooden ring attached so if I 
was
to freeze it would it be better to remove the wooden bits - if 
possible -
before freezing?

jenny barron
vaguely itching as soon as I started to think about beasties, hope 
it's just
my imagination!
Scotland

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