Re: [lace] Lace projects for children

2011-11-11 Thread lynrbailey
Dear Janice, et al

re:
http://www.lokk.nl/index.php

I found that when I was in translate mode from googletranslate, the patterns in 
pdf did not come up nicely, but when I went to them without the translate mode 
they did.  It requires two tabs on the computer, one for English, and one for 
Dutch, plus counting down from patterns whose name you recognize to those you 
don't, but it does work, and those patterns are neat, whether for children or 
not.  

Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, US, where we're in for a lovely day, sun, but 
seasonably cool high expected of 46F 7C

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Re: [lace] Lace projects for children

2011-11-10 Thread lynrbailey
I said:
-The child involved is about 10.  Are there books out there for children 
her age?  Or are there books out there with patterns in them that have 
appealed to other children her age that you folks know?

Then Robin P. said:
Someone's already mentioned Christine Springett's books.  Her first is Lace 
for Children of All Ages; enough said?  There are a couple of books on 
Schneeberger.  It's a relatively easy lace and the patterns include simple 
flowers, small animals, etc. that would appeal to kids.  Lia Baumeister-Jonker 
wrote one book, can't remember the author of the other.  There are also a 
couple of (Swedish?) books by Fagerlin (and another author, but I can't 
remember who) that have relatively simple animal and flower motifs.  Idrija is 
another lace with lots of simple/fun motifs.  The lace schools in Idrija have 
designing as part of their curriculum and even the youngish kids do it so 
there are nice, kid-friendly pieces available.

I actually have the Springett book for children, looked through it. It has lots 
of stuff. Often pieces of lace used in combination with other things, creating 
a big bang for the effort.  Good idea about the Schneeberger.  I also have the 
Idrija books, and have ordered patterns from someone in Idrija. 

Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, US, where at 8 a.m. we still have fog and 
expect some rain and chill.  Good day for hot tea and lace. 

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Re: [lace] Lace projects for children

2011-11-10 Thread Malvary Cole
There are also several small projects in the Jana Novak books that we were 
just given link for (I know the sentence shouldn't end with a preposition).


Malvary in Ottawa where we have a bright, sunny day after rain overnight, 
but cool.  Supposed to be unseasonably warm again tomorrow which is ok by 
me.


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RE: [lace] Lace projects for children

2011-11-10 Thread Jenny Brandis
There are also several small projects in the Jana Novak books that we were 
just given link for (I know the sentence shouldn't end with a preposition).


LOL I am glad you know!

regards
Jenny B

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[lace] Lace projects for children

2011-11-10 Thread Janice Blair
Do you have a link for LOKK.  I did a search and came up with nothing lacey.
Janice

There is an excellent resource for all of us courtesy of LOKK. Go to 
their site under their free patterns. take a look at the archive. they 
have all sorts of wonderful tape patterns and others that would more 
than suite your needs. If you get the child to research it herself then 
you have not only taught her lace but have taught her valuable skills in 
research and maybe even language. They even have a technique section 
with diagrams.

Anna from a wet Sydney (after the 10 year drought I still love the 
rain!!)
 Janice Blair
Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA where today was 
brrry 
cold, with snow flurries.  Can't wait to fly to Miami on Saturday.
www.jblace.com
http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org

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Re: [lace] Lace projects for children

2011-11-10 Thread Sue Babbs

try:
http://www.lokk.nl/

Sue

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From: Janice Blair

Do you have a link for LOKK.  I did a search and came up with nothing lacey.
Janice

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Re: [lace] Lace projects for children

2011-11-10 Thread Kim Davis
LInk for LOKK

http://www.lokk.nl/index.php

Kim in CA

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Re: [lace] Lace projects for children

2011-11-10 Thread Janice Blair
Thanks to everyone for the link.  I did find an information page I could read 
in 
English.  Although the rest of the site is in Dutch, I did find the patterns at 
Gratis patroon and I am enjoying looking through them.  I am not sure if there 
is a separate area for children's patterns.
Janice 
 Janice Blair
Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA
www.jblace.com
http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org





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LInk for LOKK
 
http://www.lokk.nl/index.php


Kim in CA

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[lace] Lace projects for children

2011-11-10 Thread Jean Nathan

Janice wrote:

 Although the rest of the site is in Dutch, I did find the patterns at
Gratis patroon and I am enjoying looking through them.

I have a translate button on one of the toolbars on my browser. Clicked on 
that while on the gratis Patroon page and very quickly a great deal of the 
page changed to English so I could see what some of the free patterns were.


Only two of the contents list on the left-hand side of the page didn't 
translate correctly. 'Kinderen' is the link to the children page - no 
patterns, but interesting reading (once it's translated!).


Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 


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[lace] Lace projects for children

2011-11-09 Thread Lyn Bailey
So, I demonstrated at a local crafts bazaar, and it was highly successful, in
my opinion.  I have a little half sheet that I hand out giving the url’s of
IOLI, and more local lace groups and two major suppliers.  I handed those only
to those who really expressed and interest, and I handed out about 20, which I
think was great.  I didn’t have a try me pillow, as I was the only one
there, but the niece of a friend came by, and wanted to do it, so I put up 2
spare pairs of bobbins, and she merrily went along crossing and twisting.  I
can see this getting a bit more involved.  I can teach the beginning stuff,
and I have a fish keychain fob that I saw being made at Kantcentrum by the
kids class there, AND I have pictures from Brioude, France, showing the
children’s efforts, making a village out of tape lace houses with some
simple fillings.
Problem is, I am not creative in that way.  I can’t design visual
things.  Like lace.  The child involved is about 10.  Are there books out
there for children her age?  Or are there books out there with patterns in
them that have appealed to other children her age that you folks know?  It is
possible, of course, that she will be satisfied with making  Torchon edgings,
of increasing difficulty, but I am not hopeful.  It is also possible that she
will be able to design her own lace, but I have no great hopes of that either.
But she seems relatively proficient, even with a first lesson, and, more
importantly, enthusiastic.
Has anyone else had a similar problem, and if so, how did you solve it.
After the bandage, what do you do?  I have Christine Springett’s book on
snakes on my shopping list, And I have the 2 German books on Easter eggs.

Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, US, where we’re having exceptionally fine
weather for November.  Highs of 65F 17C in bright sun.

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Re: [lace] Lace projects for children

2011-11-09 Thread Kim Davis
I have this curriculum binder,and I love it.  It is a bit pricey, but if
you think you will be working with kids much it is well worth the price.
It is very well thought out with a lot of diagrams of basic stitches and
things to help illustrate a point.  It uses the techniques it covers in
creative ways that are definitely appealing to children, but also shows
them creative uses for lace.

I think it is important for anyone, but especially children, to get to try
both tape based laces and continuous laces.  I enjoy working both, but find
I sometimes am in the mood to work with just a few pair and go off the
grid so to speak.  Other times I enjoy the puzzle of a continuous lace.
When we come into this as adults most of us have a preconceived idea of
what type of lace is appealing to us. But, I find children often don't.  I
think it is important to allow them to go back and forth between the
different types so they can get a feeling for what they like.  I know there
are many purists who don't like the idea of mixed laces, but this is
another direction many young people are moving.  As Devon mentioned having
a shape with a tape base and then using Torchon fillings can be a lot of
fun.  Critical thinking is really being pushed in the school curriculum now
(at least here in the US), so the kids I have dealt with are very eager to
jump in and figure out how it all works.  Of course, the fearlessness and
openness most young children have is also a major blessing.

Do you have any of the Brigette Bellon books with small pieces in them?
Most of the kids I have dealt with progress quickly, but still have a short
attention span.  I think working smaller projects but letting the skills
build upon each other are a good way to go.  For example, unless your niece
can work really fast, she will likely get tired of a hankie edging before
she rounds the second corner.

Kim

On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Lyn Bailey lynrbai...@desupernet.netwrote:

 So, I demonstrated at a local crafts bazaar, and it was highly successful,
 in
 my opinion.  I have a little half sheet that I hand out giving the url’s of
 IOLI, and more local lace groups and two major suppliers.  I handed those
 only
 to those who really expressed and interest, and I handed out about 20,
 which I
 think was great.  I didn’t have a try me pillow, as I was the only one
 there, but the niece of a friend came by, and wanted to do it, so I put up
 2
 spare pairs of bobbins, and she merrily went along crossing and twisting.
  I
 can see this getting a bit more involved.  I can teach the beginning stuff,
 and I have a fish keychain fob that I saw being made at Kantcentrum by the
 kids class there, AND I have pictures from Brioude, France, showing the
 children’s efforts, making a village out of tape lace houses with some
 simple fillings.
Problem is, I am not creative in that way.  I can’t design visual
 things.  Like lace.  The child involved is about 10.  Are there books out
 there for children her age?  Or are there books out there with patterns in
 them that have appealed to other children her age that you folks know?  It
 is
 possible, of course, that she will be satisfied with making  Torchon
 edgings,
 of increasing difficulty, but I am not hopeful.  It is also possible that
 she
 will be able to design her own lace, but I have no great hopes of that
 either.
 But she seems relatively proficient, even with a first lesson, and, more
 importantly, enthusiastic.
Has anyone else had a similar problem, and if so, how did you solve it.
 After the bandage, what do you do?  I have Christine Springett’s book on
 snakes on my shopping list, And I have the 2 German books on Easter eggs.

 Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, US, where we’re having exceptionally fine
 weather for November.  Highs of 65F 17C in bright sun.

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Re: [lace] Lace projects for children

2011-11-09 Thread J D Hammett

Hi Lyn and fellow Arachnids,

There are some children's booklets about. The Lace Guild (England) has a 
couple including a Christmas set of relatively easy patterns. Then there is 
Gillian Dye's 'An A B C of Lace Patterns (Elvington Press, IBSN 0 9522709 1 
9) as well as Christine Springett's books which have some fun patterns in 
(hairband, small gathered flowers etc. and another with Christmas bits). 
Also, I have found that children's colouring books have fairly simple 
drawings which can be easily translated into tape lace. Hope that helps. We 
want to encourage the youngsters.


Happy lace making,

Joepie, East Sussex, UK



In a message dated 11/9/2011 2:38:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
lynrbai...@desupernet.net writes:

So, I  demonstrated at a local crafts bazaar, and it was highly successful,
in..
  the niece of a friend came by, and wanted  to do it, so I put up 2
spare pairs of bobbins, and she merrily went along  crossing and twisting.
I can see this getting a bit more  involved.  I can teach the beginning 
stuff,

and I have a fish keychain  fob that I saw being made at Kantcentrum by the
kids class there, AND I  have pictures from Brioude, France, showing the
children’s efforts,  making a village out of tape lace houses with
some simple  fillings.

Has anyone else had a  similar problem, and if so, how did you solve it.
After the bandage, what  do you do?  I have Christine Springett’s 
book

on
snakes on my  shopping list, And I have the 2 German books on Easter eggs.

Lyn in  Lancaster, Pennsylvania, 


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Re: [lace] Lace projects for children

2011-11-09 Thread Lyn Bailey
Dear Kim,
 You are so right.  No hankie edgings for kids.  But culling Christmas
stars, anything with 10 pairs or less, Brigette Bellon’s books, all that stuff
has great merit.  A wide choice of options is I think the best approach, with
some cars and trucks thrown in.

I have just uploaded to my album on webshots.com,  arachne 2003  Lyn Bailey, a
picture I took in 2007 at the lace school in Brioude, France, showing the
children’s projects.  Note the car on the road toward the bottom.  And note
the color.  lrb

From: Kim Davis
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 3:52 PM
To: Lyn Bailey
Cc: lace@arachne.com
Subject: Re: [lace] Lace projects for children

I have this curriculum binder,and I love it.  It is a bit pricey, but if you
think you will be working with kids much it is well worth the price.  It is
very well thought out with a lot of diagrams of basic stitches and things to
help illustrate a point.  It uses the techniques it covers in creative ways
that are definitely appealing to children, but also shows them creative uses
for lace.

I think it is important for anyone, but especially children, to get to try
both tape based laces and continuous laces.  I enjoy working both, but find I
sometimes am in the mood to work with just a few pair and go off the grid so
to speak.  Other times I enjoy the puzzle of a continuous lace.  When we come
into this as adults most of us have a preconceived idea of what type of lace
is appealing to us. But, I find children often don't.  I think it is important
to allow them to go back and forth between the different types so they can get
a feeling for what they like.  I know there are many purists who don't like
the idea of mixed laces, but this is another direction many young people are
moving.  As Devon mentioned having a shape with a tape base and then using
Torchon fillings can be a lot of fun.  Critical thinking is really being
pushed in the school curriculum now (at least here in the US), so the kids I
have dealt with are very eager to jump in and figure out how it all works.  Of
course, the fearlessness and openness most young children have is also a major
blessing.

Do you have any of the Brigette Bellon books with small pieces in them?  Most
of the kids I have dealt with progress quickly, but still have a short
attention span.  I think working smaller projects but letting the skills build
upon each other are a good way to go.  For example, unless your niece can work
really fast, she will likely get tired of a hankie edging before she rounds
the second corner.

Kim


On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Lyn Bailey lynrbai...@desupernet.net
wrote:

  So, I demonstrated at a local crafts bazaar, and it was highly successful,
in
  my opinion.  I have a little half sheet that I hand out giving the url’s of
  IOLI, and more local lace groups and two major suppliers.  I handed those
only
  to those who really expressed and interest, and I handed out about 20, which
I
  think was great.  I didn’t have a try me pillow, as I was the only one
  there, but the niece of a friend came by, and wanted to do it, so I put up
2
  spare pairs of bobbins, and she merrily went along crossing and twisting.
I
  can see this getting a bit more involved.  I can teach the beginning stuff,
  and I have a fish keychain fob that I saw being made at Kantcentrum by the
  kids class there, AND I have pictures from Brioude, France, showing the
  children’s efforts, making a village out of tape lace houses with some
  simple fillings.
 Problem is, I am not creative in that way.  I can’t design visual
  things.  Like lace.  The child involved is about 10.  Are there books out
  there for children her age?  Or are there books out there with patterns in
  them that have appealed to other children her age that you folks know?  It
is
  possible, of course, that she will be satisfied with making  Torchon
edgings,
  of increasing difficulty, but I am not hopeful.  It is also possible that
she
  will be able to design her own lace, but I have no great hopes of that
either.
  But she seems relatively proficient, even with a first lesson, and, more
  importantly, enthusiastic.
 Has anyone else had a similar problem, and if so, how did you solve it.
  After the bandage, what do you do?  I have Christine Springett’s book on
  snakes on my shopping list, And I have the 2 German books on Easter eggs.

  Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, US, where we’re having exceptionally fine
  weather for November.  Highs of 65F 17C in bright sun.

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Re: [lace] Lace projects for children

2011-11-09 Thread Anna Binnie
There is an excellent resource for all of us courtesy of LOKK. Go to 
their site under their free patterns. take a look at the archive. they 
have all sorts of wonderful tape patterns and others that would more 
than suite your needs. If you get the child to research it herself then 
you have not only taught her lace but have taught her valuable skills in 
research and maybe even language. They even have a technique section 
with diagrams.


Anna from a wet Sydney (after the 10 year drought I still love the 
rain!!)


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RE: [lace] Lace projects for children

2011-11-09 Thread Jenny Brandis
Also, I have found that children's colouring books have fairly simple 
drawings which can be easily translated into tape lace. 

Joepie, East Sussex, UK

Does anyone know of a website that teaches/shows how to do this? I have 8 
preteens that I 'teach' that I would like to see have a go at this.

I have no real experience with tape lace as I make torchon but would like to 
expand the girls lace horizons.

hugs
Jenny Brandis
Kununurra, Western Australia

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Re: [lace] Lace projects for children

2011-11-09 Thread robinlace
-The child involved is about 10.  Are there books out there for children 
her age?  Or are there books out there with patterns in them that have appealed 
to other children her age that you folks know?

Someone's already mentioned Christine Springett's books.  Her first is Lace 
for Children of All Ages; enough said?  There are a couple of books on 
Schneeberger.  It's a relatively easy lace and the patterns include simple 
flowers, small animals, etc. that would appeal to kids.  Lia Baumeister-Jonker 
wrote one book, can't remember the author of the other.  There are also a 
couple of (Swedish?) books by Fagerlin (and another author, but I can't 
remember who) that have relatively simple animal and flower motifs.  Idrija is 
another lace with lots of simple/fun motifs.  The lace schools in Idrija have 
designing as part of their curriculum and even the youngish kids do it so there 
are nice, kid-friendly pieces available.
  
Robin P.
Los Angeles, California, USA
robinl...@socal.rr.com

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