[lace] Prickings for patterns from 44-year-old book?

2017-06-23 Thread Sally Jenkins
Greetings all,

I've found some very nice photos of finished lace in a book written in 1973
in Swedish, called Knypplerskan, by Inga-Lisa Olsson. Our guild library has
volumes 1, 2, & 3. There is an English translation tucked in each volume
too. In the back there is a "list of the patterns which can be purchased
for the illustrated laces in this book." But no idea how to go about that.
I found some e-books online, which I've never dealt with before, and I
don't know if they are just the books (which I have at hand), or if they
would also contain the patterns.

Any ideas?

Thank you,
Sally in Oregon where it is supposed to be in the mid-90's Fahrenheit
tomorrow

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[lace] Prickings

2015-06-17 Thread Alex Stillwell
Hi Arachnids

When making Flora Bucks I photocopy my pricking onto coloured paper and stick
it to a thin coloured card, one that I know will stand up to my tension. I
pre-prick the ground and fillings to make sure they are regular but
prick-as-I-go around the motifs. That gives the the possibility of moving
pinholes when I wish to. A cautionary note. The narrow edging in my
christening bonnet booklet was made on an antique parchment and moving pins
was not an option. The pricking has been very well made and the repeats
accurate so I had to use the pins as determined in the parchment. It was a
very interesting lesson on interpreting a pattern with unusual results.

Blow the dust, lets make lace

Alex

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[lace] ] Prickings

2015-06-16 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
Leonard, a now sadly gone old lacemaker who learned the craft in Northern
England many, many years ago, was taught to just draw out the pattern with
lines, and then put up the pins where necessary as she worked!
I saw her patterns  and also her work, - and it was just as good as those of
us who place pins in dots!!!

Certainly move the pin holes if necessary to get the lace more even, and
more to your own liking.   I am a bit of a rebel in this - I use the pattern
and dots as Guide lines, and if I feel a pin hole needs to be moved a
fraction - then I move it!!

Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz.
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[lace] Prickings

2015-06-16 Thread Leonard Bazar
Dear All
One further thought on prickings: I am working on/working out a fairly complex
Beds pattern, and am at present on version 3.  I have pricked out, from the
paper draft, the pinholes for the pattern features and trails, and foot and
headside, but on Mrs Underwood's advice, just marked where the veins in the
leaf and plaits would go, pricking the holes for the veins and picots on the
plaits, as needed and where needed.  This allows some scope for moving plaits
slightly to start or finish in a more convenient place, and again, how a leaf
is attacked will affect where the vein's pinholes go; there she said to treat
an old pricking's pinholes as suggestions, not orders.  This works best, I
should think, on traditional card with permanent ink markings and no covering
film.  Using permanent ink means a bottle of white typing correction fluid
finds a place in my work box...
I think this is similar to the Honiton approach, where of course thick card
pre-pricked is traditional, to allow the use of a straight needlepin for
sewings: the  fillings are often pricked in on the pillow when the
surrounding work is completed, to allow the holes to be shifted slightly for
ease of working.
I think it depends on whether you make lace like a train, following the
tracks, a trolley bus, with some scope for deviation, or a car, with the
freedom of the road!  I sometimes imitate the (UK, not Dutch) bicycle -
ignore the one way street signs, traffic lights, and use the pavements if it
suits!

leonard...@yahoo.com, who doesn't ride a bike, but has some unpleasant close
encounters with them on the pavements of London

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Re: [lace] Prickings

2015-06-16 Thread The Lace Bee
Sorry not to snip but need both posts to explain my answer. 

When I make a mistake on the lines on my pricking, I very, very gently scratch 
the line out and the rub the offending place down with the wooden end of my 
bulbous pricker. After I've made my first piece of lace with the pricking you 
wouldn't know the was a correction. 

Correction fluid can flake do I avoid it but not to say it's not right for 
others. 

L

Kind Regards,

Liz Baker

 On 16 Jun 2015, at 09:04, Brenda Paternoster paternos...@appleshack.com 
 wrote:
 
 Can you still get that now?
 
 If not a small tube of acrylic paint could be substituted, but choose an
 opaque colour, not a transparent one!  Yellow ochre is opaque as is titanium
 white.
 
 Brenda
 On 16 Jun 2015, at 08:33, Leonard Bazar leonard...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Using permanent ink means a bottle of white typing correction fluid
 finds a place in my work box...
 
 Brenda in Allhallows
 paternos...@appleshack.com
 www.brendapaternoster.co.uk
 
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Re: [lace] Prickings

2015-06-16 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Can you still get that now?

If not a small tube of acrylic paint could be substituted, but choose an
opaque colour, not a transparent one!  Yellow ochre is opaque as is titanium
white.

Brenda
 On 16 Jun 2015, at 08:33, Leonard Bazar leonard...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Using permanent ink means a bottle of white typing correction fluid
 finds a place in my work box...

Brenda in Allhallows
paternos...@appleshack.com
www.brendapaternoster.co.uk

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[lace] Prickings

2015-06-09 Thread Alex Stillwell
Hi Arachnids

If you use a good quality pricking card, not necessarily a thick one, your
holes will not enlarge and you will be able to reuse it many times. Hence, no
need for plastic.

Happy lacemaking

Alex

P.S. Check that your pricker needle has the same diameter as your pins. Then
the pins will pass through easily and at the same time they will be held
firmly upright and not wobble as they would if the holes were larger, much
better than relying on the plastic to reduce their size.

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[lace] Prickings

2015-06-08 Thread Alex Stillwell
Hi Beth

Re: Copying a brown pattern-clear contact paper - I still prefer to prick my
patterns the traditional way ...

It is good to see some lacemakers are continuing to make good prickings, as
you say, you learn a lot about the pattern by doing so. I can understand why
needle lacemakers use plastic covering on their patterns, they need it to
prevent their needles from getting caught on the paper, but am puzzled why so
many continue to use it on bobbin lace prickings. When access to photocopying
first became cheap enough for lace teachers to use for passing on patterns to
students coloured paper was not an option, also the print would easily smudge.
Hence we used plastic to seal the print and the colour the background when
using white thread. Now that coloured paper is easily accessible and print
does not come off it is no longer necessary. Using plastic makes it harder to
prick patterns, harder to insert pins and can result in sticky pins. So, why
use it ?

Happy lacemaking

Alex

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Re: [lace] Prickings

2015-06-08 Thread Cynce Williams
And I found that my carefully pricked holes closed up in the plastic cover.

Cynthia


On Jun 8, 2015, at 4:47 PM, Alex Stillwell alexstillw...@talktalk.net wrote:

 Hi Beth
 
 Re: Copying a brown pattern-clear contact paper - I still prefer to prick my
 patterns the traditional way ...
 
 It is good to see some lacemakers are continuing to make good prickings, as
 you say, you learn a lot about the pattern by doing so. I can understand why
 needle lacemakers use plastic covering on their patterns, they need it to
 prevent their needles from getting caught on the paper, but am puzzled why so
 many continue to use it on bobbin lace prickings. When access to photocopying
 first became cheap enough for lace teachers to use for passing on patterns to
 students coloured paper was not an option, also the print would easily smudge.
 Hence we used plastic to seal the print and the colour the background when
 using white thread. Now that coloured paper is easily accessible and print
 does not come off it is no longer necessary. Using plastic makes it harder to
 prick patterns, harder to insert pins and can result in sticky pins. So, why
 use it ?
 
 Happy lacemaking
 
 Alex
 
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RE: [lace] Prickings

2015-06-08 Thread C Johnson
I'm assuming laser dots are colour fast?

I use a HP Laserjet 1022 and no, it is not color fast.  In fact I can even
erase it off the paper.

Susie in Illinois
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[lace] Prickings

2015-06-08 Thread Jocelyn Froese
Reply all:

We were told to use it because the black dots can transfer ink if using
home based ink jet printers. So the plastic is used to protect the dots.
I'm assuming laser dots are colour fast? Also the plastic cover keeps the
pricking holes from getting larger or losing accuracy due placing pins
somewhere near the actual dot. Plus if we are into saving and not wasting
etc. we can use the same pricking many times.

May all your dreams be in colour!
Jocelyn in Canada

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Re: [lace] Prickings (why use plastic)

2015-06-08 Thread robinlace
 Alex Stillwell alexstillw...@talktalk.net wrote: 
but am puzzled why so many continue to use it on bobbin lace prickings. 

I usually cover my prickings with clear plastic, for several reasons:

1.  As others have said, to protect from moisture.  Those of us living in dry 
climates (humidity here can be so far below 1% that instruments register it as 
0!) sometimes need to rehydrate the threads, and don't want to risk the paper 
pricking getting warped.

2.  Many printers can't take heavy card stock, so my patterns are on paper (I 
prefer gray background).  I reinforce the paper, sometimes by putting card 
stock under it and plastic over it, with the plastic and cardstock sticking 
together beyond the edges of the pattern.  This method I use for yardage on a 
roller pillow, where I will be re-using the holes many times.  For a motif that 
I may make once or just a few times, I put plastic over and under the paper, 
without the card stock.

3.  The plastic makes holes sturdier, so the plastic makes finding a pinhole 
easier when there's a forest of pins or poor lighting, and the pinhole location 
remains accurate when you re-use that hole.

4.  I can mark on my pricking before I cover it.  I can edit the holes 
(sometimes some are missing, or sometimes I want to alter an element) and I can 
make sure the pattern name and creator are on the piece of paper with the 
pinholes.  I don't want to test every pen/pencil to make sure it won't 
smudge--I'll just grab whatever pen is handy and cover it with plastic.

These reasons are just off the top of my head, late at night.  There may be 
others that I don't remember at the moment, but those are probably minor 
reasons anyway.

Robin P.
Los Angeles, California, USA
robinl...@socal.rr.com

Parvum leve mentes capiunt
(Little things amuse little minds)

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[lace] Symbols on lace prickings

2014-07-11 Thread Maureen
Following Jane's question about rose ground.  Another thought has come to
me.We all know the most common symbols for  features of, a dot in the
centre of a space for a tally or a mayflower, a diamond for Roseground, a
circle for honeycomb etc.,  but I wondered if anyone had their own favourite
symbols on prickings to show various different features.   I know that Alex
Stillwell's book Lace Dictionary shows several variations I wondered if
there were any others which have not yet been recorded.

 

Maureen

East Yorks UK

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[lace] Symbols on lace prickings

2014-07-11 Thread Jane Partridge
I always mark in the crosses at the corners of Roseground. It makes it 
easier to avoid taking the wrong pairs in at the corners (particularly 
where beginners are concerned) and for visualising the pattern.


In message 002d01cf9cdf$ea1b9530$be52bf90$@roger.karoo.co.uk, Maureen 
maur...@roger.karoo.co.uk writes

a diamond for Roseground, a
circle for honeycomb etc.,  but I wondered if anyone had their own favourite
symbols on prickings to show various different features.


--
Jane Partridge

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[lace] Copying lace prickings

2013-11-24 Thread Leonard Bazar
One thing the discussions of this - using heelball, pricking through original
prickings etc - makes very clear that the photocopiers we now take for granted
are a very modern invention, and most of us can remember when they were
unreliable - distorted, shrunk patterns on odd shiney paper that disappeared
after a while in sunlight.  This I think is yet another thing we need to bear
in mind when considering how lacemakers of old worked.  I started when the
best way of making an accurate pricking was meant to be working on graph
paper, using one and a half squares (or whatever) one way, and one the other
to get a Bucks grid - and that relied on accurate graph paper, and indeed
cheap paper, itself not available in the early days of lacemaking.  With all
these problems in reproducing patterns, freehand lace may well have continued
longer and into more elaborate patterns than we consider practical, and to me,
it seems quite unlikely that working diagrams
 or similar would be readily available when the workers would have found it
hard enough to get accurate patterns; a piece of worked lace would probably be
the most practical way of letting someone know what to produce.  It would be
fascinating to know how the designs were first turned into lace, and what
knowledge the designer, pricker and maker had of each others' skills.
 
 
leonard...@yahoo.com

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[lace] prickings

2013-11-23 Thread Alex Stillwell
Hi Arachnids

When I learned patterned drafting with Pam Nottingham she reprimanded me when
I was drawing the guidelines in pen. She told me to ALWAYS draw in pencil
first in case you make a mistake and you can correct it easily at this stage.
Then trace over it in ink and, when the ink is dry, erase all the pencil lines
that could otherwise transfer to the lace and soil it. I have gratefully
followed her advice ever since.

I wonder where you got your heelball Maureen. Was it part of that box I got
from my local shoe mender? It was his last one tucked right at the back of the
shelf.

Happy lacemaking

Alex

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Re: [lace] prickings

2013-11-23 Thread Maureen
Hi

I probably got my heelball from you, have had it since I lived in Essex.

Just got back from a day of demonstrating lace in our local garden centre which 
is based in an old commercial greenhouse.  Well I didn't do a lot of lace but 
several kids went home with fish.  It was not as hot as last time either, which 
was in the middle of a heat wave in July.  Am back there tomorrow.  Feet ache 
though!!  There was a tame robin who kept coming to see what we were doing and 
kept landing on the artificial trees above us which have artificial snow on 
them and the snow is now on the table.  Festive.

 Maureen
E Yorks UK

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Re: [lace] prickings

2013-11-23 Thread Lin Hudren
i found many years ago while demonstrating that if i put my feet up on a
flat brick, that little bit saved not only my feet but my lower back too.
 it is tense work sharing our lovelies.  because of the weight, i didn't
want to carry 2 bricks with me so i got styrofoam and used that.  you can
cover the pieces (one for each foot - or one longer one) but the damp from
the ground makes it look tacky.  one old timer saw this and made little
foot stools for each of us demonstrating and while a bit heavier, blends
great with our costumes of being pioneer women/men.

i am sure you can look around and find something to help ease your later
aches.  i never feel the pain until afterwards because it is too much fun.
 now i don't have to be concerned and with my tripod table, piano stool
with a full back, my tote with my pillow and supplies (including my little
stool), i go and come home having not only the pleasure of the day but the
glow afterwards for the benefits sharing always grants me.  Happy lacing.

Hugs, Lin and the Mali
*I just realized I am so old, I have forgotten I have been there and done
that.*

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Re: [lace] History and Conservation - Lace Prickings Past Present

2013-11-22 Thread Maureen
I can remember those days as well.  My first lace teacher used to have the lace 
patterns which we pricked through them, there were no instructions, no 
technical drawings and sometimes not even  a sample of the lace to look at.  
Those were the days before Pamela Nottingham books, my first lace book was 
Maidment.  But you quickly learnt to read the pricking.   Then I went to a 
teacher who taught me to draw out patterns on graph paper and never looked 
back.  I Even have some heelball in a box somewhere.

Maureen
E Yorks UK

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RE: [lace] History and Conservation - Lace Prickings Past Present

2013-11-22 Thread Agnes Boddington
Geesh Maureen
Had to look up what heelball is! 
You taught me something today.
Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK 

Then I went to a teacher who taught me to draw out patterns on graph paper
and never looked back.  I Even have some heelball in a box somewhere.

Maureen
E Yorks UK

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[lace] Prickings

2013-11-22 Thread Kathleen Harris
I also started my lacemaking (in 1970) with pre-prepared prickings on glazed
card. These were sometimes bought, or made by pricking very carefully and
accurately through another pricking. The books I started with were Maidment,
and Mincoff and Marriage. Then came new books by Doreen Wright and Pam
Nottingham, and I learned how to chart patterns on graph paper, or to
photocopy them from a book. At first the chart or photocopy was pinned onto
glazed card and pricked through. Markings were added with a fine Indian Ink
pen. I first went to a class  with Marjory Carter in 1980 and I can remember
how very particular she was about making an accurate pricking. 

 

I can't remember when I first used blue film over a photocopy, but it made
life so much simpler! All the markings were clearly visible, no need to draw
them in. I sometimes stuck the photocopy onto thick paper before covering
it, and it was then necessary to prick first, before using the pattern. But
if I wanted a quick fix and was planning only to use the pricking once, I
didn't bother - I just pinned the covered photocopy onto the pillow and
pricked as I went. 

 

Nowadays, I still sometimes design a pattern on graph paper, and then I
usually prick through onto card. So I use both methods, ancient and modern.

 

I have two parchment prickings. One is a narrow Bucks point fan edging. The
other is a 2.5inch wide Bedfordshire edging which has line end pieces sewn
on - I have forgotten what they are called. Both prickings have been tightly
rolled, and I have wondered whether they could ever be unrolled and used. I
imagine that the parchment would have to be treated in some way to soften
it.

 

Kathleen

In sunny and cold Berkshire, UK

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[lace] Prickings

2013-11-22 Thread Kathleen Harris
Sorry - that should be linen ends, not line ends!

 

Kathleen

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[lace] RE: History and Conservation - Lace Prickings Past Present

2013-11-22 Thread Helen Bell
Yes, Devon, I am young enough (old enough? :-) ) to remember pre-blue film
days.  I still have some of my early prickings that were done on blue
cardboard (maybe it's the glazed kind that someone - Mary Carey maybe? -
referred to a couple of days ago).  One side of the card has a 'matte'
finish and the other side has a smoother, glossier finish.  A pattern was
traced with 'tracing' paper (think like baking parchment, but a little
lighter in weight), laid over the card, wrapping the edges and held with
paper clips or bulldog clips, and then one went to work with the pricker,
and pricked each pinhole, followed by hand marking the lines with an
indelible fine tip marker.

And that's how I learnt my lacemaking from Mum, in late 1976, as she
retaught herself from Margaret Hamer's little books and Miss Channer's PG
book.  She then found classes locally taught by the wonderful Margaret
Cardinaletti, and the rest is history.

Seems like I started to use the copier onto cardstock in the late 1980's.
The research facility had it's own print shop, and they were very kind to
give me offcuts of cardstock from report covers, and I also saved covers
from library bibliography lists that came in and were about to be discarded,
once we'd used them.  I still have a few A4 sheets left in various colours
and good weight for pricking card.

I've found that the blue film is nice to use if I'm using a white thread,
but I'm deciding that since it's so hard to find now, I'm just going to go
for coloured cardstock, and use clear film on the pricking if it's one that
the cardstock is a little on the light side, or one that's going to get used
a lot (say, yardage).  

There are times where the film can be of benefit - if the ink from the
copier hasn't bonded correctly, it can smudge, and it would be a disaster to
smudge onto one's threads.  I have had some cases where the ink hasn't
totally bonded to the paper and I've discovered that in advance
(thankfully).  A rare case, but it can happen.  (and if you get photocopier
ink on yourself - it's a powder - use cold water to remove, as the heat
bonds it).

Cheers,
Helen in frosty Duvall, WA, where it's about 31F, but the sun is shining,
and we had a glorious sunrise with the moon still high in the sky earlier
this morning.

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[lace] Prickings

2013-11-22 Thread Janis Savage
When I first learned to make lace at Kempston School's evening classes, 
near Bedford, UK We had to first trace the pricking from the original, 
then prick through onto brown pricking card, mark in the relevant lines 
with pencil(which could be rubbed out in case of a mistake) and then go 
over it with ink and rub out the pencil lines.
I also still have my piece of heelball for taking a rubbing of a 
pricking too.


When I first started to teach in the early 1990's, I taught the same 
method, until I realised the benefit of the photocopy machine. Blue 
contact was cheap then so we used it to cover the white photocopy but 
still used pricking card underneath.
Now I still recommend using glazed pricking card for a pattern that is 
going to be used more than once, otherwise I have learned to print onto 
regular coloured project card and only use clear contact if the lace is 
going to be starched. I still preprick a pattern to save on eye strain 
trying to get pins in accurately and to prevent backache trying to see 
where the pin-holes are.


When in Malta I learned to use the blue contact with the pricking 
sandwiched between the blue front and the backing paper. No cardboard 
needed. Mind you the Maltese pillows are so hard that I never want to 
use one again.


I still cannot bear to see lace being made on a single sheet of 
photocopy paper.


--
Janis Savage t/a The Lace Place
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Re: [lace] Prickings

2013-11-22 Thread Bev Walker
Called 'eaches' (sp?).

:)

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 ...I have forgotten what they are called



 Sorry - that should be linen ends, not line ends!



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Re: [lace] History and Conservation - Lace Prickings Past Present

2013-11-21 Thread Brenda Paternoster
I remember that when I first started to learn BL we were taught to prick 
through one card to make another.  You soon learned who not to lend your 
prickings to!

The black substance Devon referred to would be heelball, which is a mixture of 
wax and lamp-black (soot!), and used for polishing leather shoes or making 
rubbings of church brasses - that was a popular hobby in the 70s when I first 
started BL, and it led to a lot of brasses being damaged by over zealous 
rubbers.

Brenda

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 Surely others recall the pre-blue film days?

Brenda in Allhallows
www.brendapaternoster.co.uk

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Re: [lace] ...Lace Prickings Past Present/blue film

2013-11-21 Thread Bev Walker
Hello Devon and everyone

Maybe it was in the late 1990's that I first heard of covering a pricking
with blue film, was it from another lacemaker, could even have been on
Arachne?!
When I bought a lace kit from Pussy Willow Lace Supplies, about 1990, the
pricking was on blue card. The prickings in the nice little kits from
Springett were on coloured card also.
My first and only lace teacher (1986) gave us the patterns, photocopied on
plain white paper from a photocopy done with heat-transfer paper of the
hand-drawn original. The copied copies had charming residual splotches
captured by the most recent photocopy lens, surrounding the lines of the
pattern. We didn't cover the prickings. I still have them, in a binder.

In my how-to book of the time, and some time after, Pam Nottingham's Bobbin
Lace Making, she instructs us to draw in any markings using a pencil, on to
the pricked card (thick brown glazed card 'from suppliers' or dark coloured
manilla card that I suppose one would have around), and mark them in
permanently with India ink - not a ballpoint pen which ink would discolour
the thread. No mention of covering the pricking with film.

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 Surely others recall the pre-blue film days?


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Re: [lace] History and Conservation - Lace Prickings Past Present

2013-11-21 Thread Dmt11home
It was definitely the photocopy machine that led to the  adoption of blue 
film. When I started taking lace lessons in 1971 my teacher  pricked the 
prickings. She would draw them on graph paper because it is more  accurate to 
prick the intersection of two lines, than a dot. Then she would  prick 
through several layers of a brown card on a surface of piano felt. She  also 
had 
a diagram which she had copied using pencil and tracing paper from  some 
master diagram and colored with fine felt tipped pens. Then she would wrap  the 
tracing paper around a piece of white cardboard to make an immaculate 
little  diagram. I believe it was originally standard practice to give the 
diagram to  the student to trace on tracing paper, etc., but it being 1971 and 
the 
library  being equipped with a xerox machine that made copies on awful clay 
covered  paper, she suggested that I photocopy the diagram and then color 
it with pens. I  still have some of these relics of a bygone era of 
photocopying.
 
The entire process was so labor intensive that I can remember  now where I 
was when I first saw someone whip out some blue film and put it on a  
pattern. It was after my daughter was born in 1985, but before she started  
school, and my husband let me take an evening lace class once a week while he  
watched the baby. It was somewhat revolutionary in that prior to that I had to  
buy the prickings or else try to find a source for piano felt.
 
I have often seen quite identical looking patterns to the ones  produced by 
my teacher in bins of old patterns in lace communities, usually dark  tan, 
as hers were. So, I don't know if that was because the dark tan was  
considered the best for the eyes, or was the most widely  available.
 
I don't know when people stopped using vellum. I suspect it  may have 
persisted longer in needle lace than in bobbin lace. I have always been  a 
little 
bit suspicious that the Ipswich lace pillows were redone, if not  actually 
made new during the fever of excitement that occurred during the US  
centennial in 1876. A lace pillow that doesn't show a lace in process is not  
much 
of an exhibit item, so it would make sense to set it up in order to provide  
the teaching experience of seeing what lace making as it was practiced in  
Ipswich looked like. So, they may be more indicative of the lace practices 
of  the 1870s, than of the 18th century.
 
Of course there are many stories of people using some kind of  black 
substance (related to shoe maintenance?) to transfer a pricked pattern  from 
one 
pricking to another piece of card when the first was worn out. 
 
This leads inevitably to the question of what did people do  with grubby, 
discolored lace in the olden days, and the answer was that the  dealer 
whitened it with white lead. Unfortunately white lead tends to cause lead  
poisoning resulting in the conclusion that not every substance used in the 19th 
 
century was healthful, and also the conclusion that it might be a good idea to 
 wash your hands after handling old lace. 
 
I really think it was also the classroom situation with a  desire to prick 
and go that led to the use of the film, especially if the  teacher did not 
want to prick all the patterns ahead of time, or for that matter  carry 
them with her. Of course at that time it would have been impossible to  
transfer a pattern to a piece of card without visiting a specialty reproduction 
 
service, and most photocopying was being done in offices on white paper (often 
 at the boss's expense :-)). We didn't have home printers. If you were 
going to  prick a pattern at home, in its entirely, before starting it, you 
might as well  afix the photocopy to the card with pins and prick though, 
although you would  still have to add any construction detail lines, like gimp 
by 
hand, which was a  bother. My first teacher persisted in doing things the 
traditional way  and was porting her entire inventory of prickings in  
multiple suitcases when I took a class with her around 1990, at a local  
museum. 
But she was very unusual in that regard. 
 
Surely others recall the pre-blue film days?
 
Devon

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[lace] History and Conservation - Lace Prickings Past Present

2013-11-21 Thread Jeriames
Well, we have covered the Blue Film (and alternatives) subject to  death, 
so I thought to look at some of my bobbin lace books for photos of old  and 
not-so-old lace makers and lace pillows for a sense of history and  with a 
sense of present-day conservation experience.
 
For centuries, lace makers did very well without modern lighting, and used  
acid-free card prickings.  I noticed in one early Springett book that  she 
recommended the film for protecting thread from ink dyes when a pricking was 
 marked.  In this case, she did not mention vision and color contrast.   
The lace makers in old photos are often quite advanced in years, yet  managed 
to see without much contrast between card and thread  color.  They used 
naked card prickings!
 
See prickings on antique and post-World War 2 pillows:
 
1.  Luxton's Honiton Lace book jackets (3)
2.  Nottingham's Bucks and Bobbin Lace book jackets (4)
3.  Skovgaard's Tonder Lace book jacket
4.  Stott's Bucks Point Lace book jacket
5.  Raffel's Laces of Ipswich book jacket and inside text,
and many more books.
 
Pillows with intact antique card prickings have survived in  collections 
and museums.  You can see more in lace maker post cards  from European nations 
and in Lace Guild magazine articles.  They do not  have film on prickings 
before World War 2.
 
For a museum lace exhibition I curated over 25 years ago, I borrowed some  
19th C. dark green velum prickings from an old lace collection.  I  would be 
surprised if the orange card prickings were in use in the 19th  C.  If a 
pricking is attached to an antique pillow being offered  on eBay, it is a 
piece of card.
 
Many times I have cautioned against using Scotch tape, adhesives, and  
glues on all laces (even lace ID scrapbooks), because they off-gas fumes.   
Some lace makers leave pillows idle for long periods of time, and should be  
aware of this.  Off-gasing is in the form of chemical fumes which can  affect 
thread color and strength and leave permanent stains.  Anything  sticky is 
bad - microcosms may feed on substances in the adhesive.  They  leave 
stains.  Think of what has happened to your old Scotch-tape-mended  
correspondence, photo  and scrap albums when non-archival products  were used..
 
Also, there is the transfer of sticky to lace pins, and maybe  thread.  A 
nuisance to remove, if even possible (from the  thread).
 
Since 21st C. lacemakers rarely re-use a pricking, why not make one of  a 
dye-fast heavy paper that you prick, and pin the paper pattern  instructions 
to the side of a roller pillow, or prop on a small easel?
 
Pre-World War 1 lace makers did not incur any unnecessary expense when  
making lace to earn their bread and butter! 
 
I am beginning to think that someone of influence 45 years ago, when  lace 
books with patterns first began to be widely published,  dreamt this up.  
The idea spread, and now everyone thinks it is  necessary.
 
Devon gave us a very clear memo about using heavy colored paper or  card 
stock for prickings.  I took a sheet of Staples acid-free  lightish blue 67 
lb. cover stock, laid it on my kitchen counter, laid  a piece of white DMC 
embroidery floss (very absorbent) on the paper, wet 2  sheets of acid-free 
Bounty paper towels and laid them on top, slopped more water  on, and weighted 
with a cutting board.  I went back later, and the thread  was still white.  
We can test in our home laboratories.
 
Again, I suggest you think of the consequences when you use lace  supplies 
and methods not used in the 16th to 20th centuries.  There were  many 
thousands more lace makers than today.  They would have used acid-free  card 
made 
from old rags, not tree pulp.  They would have experimented  to find the 
most efficient and safe ways to make lace.  Are some of these  new practices 
really necessary?
 
Please save in your Conservation binder.
 
Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center

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Subject: Re: [lace] prickings

2011-08-16 Thread Witchy Woman

Read the posts about storing used prickings.  Lots of good information.

I, too, like to keep them in the book the pattern came from if possible.  I 
keep them in plastic page protectors...cut to fit the book if need 
be...keeps them from falling out when you open the book.


I've found out the hard way that the ink from regular ball point pens like 
Bic tends to fade as the years go by so I make notes in an indelible ink...a 
Pentel brand Onyx pen is a good one...fine lines and inexpensive.


If you're going to make any markings on the pricking before you cover it 
with clear contact film, a pencil works well.  Inks of all kinds seem to 
bleed into the contact film after a while.


BTW...if you use the plastic page protectors to store your notes and 
prickings, make sure they're made of polypropylene, which is chemically 
inert.



Peg
in Fairview Park OH USA...not too far from the shores of Lake Erie



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Re: Subject: Re: [lace] prickings

2011-08-16 Thread Witchy Woman

Peg,
A suggestion re using pens, etc., may I suggest you invest in some lignin 
free pens.  You can get them in the scrapbook section of Michaels or Hobby 
Lobby.  They work great  have no acid properties on them as regular pens 
have.

Sallie in Wyoming

Sent from my iPhone



Thanks, Sallie.  It's good to know where to get those kind of pens other 
than a place that sells mail order archival supplies.  I'll have to check 
out Michaels this weekend.


Peg
in Ohio

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[lace] prickings

2011-08-15 Thread Lorelei Halley
Jenny
I use a variant of the last option you mentionned for storing prickings,
diagrams and such.  But I sort them out by structural type rather than trying
to keep a libtrary like system (what you descirbed seemed to have such
elements).  So: torchon, Beds, Cluny, Russian tape, Cantu, etc.  The really
large ones are stored in artist's portfolios.  Back in the 80s one could buy
large cardboard folders at art supply stores for keeping artwork flat and
safe.  They came as large as 24 x 30 inches.  They have cloth tabs that fold
over to keep dust out of the inside, and little tapes to tie the front to the
back so all the papers won't slither out.  I've noticed that a lot of art
supplies that used to be easily available just don't exist any more.  I
suppose the age of computer art has destroyed all the felt markers, colored
plastic sticky film.  But there are still people who use actual paints, aren't
there?  And they still need to store their artwork flat.  I then store this
portfolio flat on a shelf in my pillow keeper cupboard.
Lorelei

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Re: [lace] prickings

2011-08-15 Thread robinlace
 Lorelei Halley lhal...@bytemeusa.com wrote: 
I've noticed that a lot of art supplies that used to be easily available just 
don't exist any more.  I
suppose the age of computer art has destroyed all the felt markers, colored 
plastic sticky film.  But there are still people who use actual paints, aren't 
there?  


There are still art stores, such as Dick Blick and William Smith.  There are 
also many online sources for markers, colored pencils, technical pens, 
portfolios, etc.  That stuff is also often available in Office Supply stores 
and even JoAnne's and Michael's craft stores.  [All of these are US places, 
sorry I don't know the international market.]  Drawing  painting, like making 
lace, is not a lost art.

Robin P.
robinl...@socal.rr.com
Los Angeles, California, USA

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Re: [lace] Prickings

2011-01-06 Thread David C COLLYER

Dear Alice and other Friends,
Many thanks for this interesting email.

I too use paper prickings with plastic contact covering. However, I 
very rarely use the same one twice. I've always meant to make a 
folder for these finished prickings, but at present they are all in a 
drawer. I do make a point of writing on the back of each one: the 
date started and finished; the threads used; and if I remember, who it was for.


For an edging, the thought process needs to be a bit different.  The 
easy way to do a long edging is with a roller pillow.  In this case, 
there is a relatively short pattern around the roller that is used 
repeatedly for the length of the edging.


I am currently working on a long length of fairly wide Toender lace 
which is to be exhibited later this year in the Geelong annual scarf 
show. Now I hadn't used a roller pillow in years and had to resort to 
my very tatty 1903 Princess Pillow, which I've always hated. So far 
it's doing the job well (about 3 completed in 2 days). But I can 
foresee a problem. The repeat of the pricking itself was too long to 
wrap round the roller, so I have joined about 4 A4 pages length 
together and this is currently hanging out the back of the pillow. My 
question is: how can I guarantee that the pricking will remain in a 
straight line??? I can envisage it oh so slowly wandering over to one side.


Any helpful hints greatly appreciated.
David in Ballarat

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Re: [lace] Prickings

2011-01-06 Thread Laceandbits
If you have cut the edges of the pricking parallel to the pricking, perhaps 
you could wrap a tape or ribbon around the roller at the edge of the 
pricking as to act as tramlines; as you work you just need to keep the pricking 
sitting squarely between them and do tiny tweaks as necessary.

Obviously it is a good idea to make sure that you have started with your 
pricking absolutely parallel to the edge of the roller.  After that, I find it 
helps to put a pin or two in as low down on the front of roller as I can 
get, to make sure it is feeding straight, and if it's moving sideways a little 
this is where you can tweak it; pin in several places across the pricking 
to move it back to straight.  A tiny amount of ease just sort of works in, 
but if it is more than a a millimetre, you maybe need to straighten it back up 
over two or three sections.

I never pad the roller to fit the pricking, so nearly always have a loop of 
pricking hanging below the roller - I don't see that your long straight 
feed should cause any more difficulty.

Jacquie in Lincolnshire

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Re: [lace] Prickings

2011-01-06 Thread Sue Babbs
I will admit I've never been patient enough to get up and find a ruler and 
measure a set distance from the side of the roller to the footside. I've 
always been to keen to get the pricking on the pillow and get started, and 
found that just eye-balling it isn't completely reliable, and the pricking 
does wander diagonally. Fortunately this has never yet been disastrous 
enough to need to remove all the pins and re-pin!


However I suspect that starting off by pinning the pricking at a measured 
even distance from the edge of the roller around as much of the length of 
the roller as you can fit the pricking would probably help a lot!

Sue

For an edging, the thought process needs to be a bit different.  The easy 
way to do a long edging is with a roller pillow.  In this case, there is a 
relatively short pattern around the roller that is used repeatedly for the 
length of the edging.


foresee a problem. The repeat of the pricking itself was too long to wrap 
round the roller, so I have joined about 4 A4 pages length together and 
this is currently hanging out the back of the pillow. My question is: how 
can I guarantee that the pricking will remain in a straight line??? I can 
envisage it oh so slowly wandering over to one side.


Any helpful hints greatly appreciated.
David in Ballarat

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RE: [lace] Prickings

2011-01-06 Thread David C COLLYER

Dear Charlotte and other kind Helpers,



I tried using pins along the sides to keep the pricking in place and
as I recall that helped some. But basically I would have to lift the
pricking, lace and pins and move them back into position.


I couldn't stand to have to do that. There are 90 pairs of bobbins in 
this piece and I keep the pins in for at least 1. IF I did end up 
having to lift the entire work, I imagine I'd have to remove as many 
pins as possible and leave just 2 or 3 rows deep from the front. Is 
that correct?


Let's hope it doesn't come to this
David in Ballarat

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Re: [lace] Prickings

2011-01-06 Thread Sue Babbs
No you'd have to put back in more pins  than just 2 or 3 rows deep from the 
front. I forget what lace this is (I am thinking Tonder) but I think you 
would need most of your inch of pins back in the lace or you are running the 
risk of gathering it. And, of course, the footsides would need pins going 
even further back along the pattern


Sue
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Subject: RE: [lace] Prickings



I couldn't stand to have to do that. There are 90 pairs of bobbins in
this piece and I keep the pins in for at least 1. IF I did end up having 
to lift the entire work, I imagine I'd have to remove as many pins as 
possible and leave just 2 or 3 rows deep from the front. Is that correct?




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Re: [lace] Prickings

2011-01-06 Thread lacelady
David,
You have enough pattern hanging off the back of the roller to reach back, match 
up the top and bottom sections of the pricking and hold the two together when 
you are ready to roll up your work.  Pull firmly in place and pin the next inch 
or two of the pricking (depending on your roller size.  By lining up the 
pricking every time, it will stay straight.

My pattern freguently 'travel' a bit on a roller but I've never found it a 
problem.  Just tweak the next section back the way you want it to go and pin.  
Narrow patterns can be tweaked easily.  A very wide pattern could need the full 
'remove lace and reset pattern' procedure.  It's a nuisance but only takes ten 
minutes.  Unpinning and repinning goes faster than one would guess.

Happy lacing,
Alice in Oregon ... off to lace meeting today.


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I am currently working on a long length of fairly wide Toender lace 
which is to be exhibited later this year in the Geelong annual scarf 
show. Now I hadn't used a roller pillow in years and had to resort to 
my very tatty 1903 Princess Pillow, which I've always hated. So far 
it's doing the job well (about 3 completed in 2 days). But I can 
foresee a problem. The repeat of the pricking itself was too long to 
wrap round the roller, so I have joined about 4 A4 pages length 
together and this is currently hanging out the back of the pillow. My 
question is: how can I guarantee that the pricking will remain in a 
straight line??? I can envisage it oh so slowly wandering over to one side.

Any helpful hints greatly appreciated.
David in Ballarat

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[lace] lace prickings

2011-01-06 Thread Lorelei Halley
David
When I have an edging pattern where the repeats don't fit right on the roller
I pad the roller with several layers of wool to make its diameter larger.  Of
course there are limits to this.  The limiting factor is the depth of the box
the roller sits in -- how much clearance there is under the roller.
Lorelei

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Re: [lace] lace prickings

2011-01-06 Thread Malvary J Cole
Lorelei Halley wrote When I have an edging pattern where the repeats don't 
fit right on the roller I pad the roller with several layers of wool to make 
its diameter larger


When I'm using my roller pillow it is because I'm making a long length.  In 
my opinion it is better to have the pattern a little larger than the roller 
so that as you go over and over the pattern the pin holes are not always in 
the same place.  If the roller is padded to make the pattern fit snuggly 
round the roller then the pins are always going in to the same hole. 
Possibly not a problem with a straw filled roller, but with a foam roller it 
will break down if a long length is made.


Malvary in Ottawa, Canada where we are forecast to get 5-10cm of snow over 
night.  The skiers will be happy as we lost a lot of snow cover last week.


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[lace] lace prickings

2011-01-06 Thread Lorelei Halley
Malvary
Two of my roller pillows have rollers wrapped tightly with wool cloth, so
sticking the pins into the same spot doesn't damage anything.  But one of my
pillows has a polyethylene (Ethafoam) roller, so that ones doesn't present a
real problem either.  I hadn't thought about the issue of what the roller is
made of.  For me it isn't, but now that you mention it, I see that it might be
for others.
Lorelei

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[lace] lace prickings

2011-01-06 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
David, if you have to remove and re-pin  make yourself a felt pad that
becomes larger in the centre than at the front and back edges, then work
onto it (tuck it up under your pricking)

You can them remove the lace, pins and all, and straighten it up on the
roller, push down some of the pins, and gradually work off the pad, back
onto the roller.

 

I made a length of lace with the pattern hanging out the back, - and started
getting it all working to one side.  I managed to tweak it  reasonably
straight, and completed the piece before I ran out of sideways roller!!

 

Regards from Liz in Hot Melbourne, Oz.

lizl...@bigpond.com

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Re: [lace] Prickings

2011-01-05 Thread lacelady
The modern lacemaker seems to do a wide variety of patterns rather than 
concentrating on just a few for her lifetime.

If a pattern is going to be used only once, there's little concern that the 
pricking will endure.  However, I have found that I will repeat some patterns 
several times, or many times, if I particularly like it.  I have at least three 
patterns that I keep returning to, and have made as many as 30+ times.  Since I 
tend to use a paper pattern on file folder and covered with plastic film, I can 
use a pricking 8 or 10 times before it becomes ragged.  I have remade prickings 
several times on those favorite patterns.  This is for smaller patterns like 
bookmarks or ornaments.

For an edging, the thought process needs to be a bit different.  The easy way 
to do a long edging is with a roller pillow.  In this case, there is a 
relatively short pattern around the roller that is used repeatedly for the 
length of the edging.  The paper/folder/film sandwich has been known to break 
down before completing a long edging.  This is more like repeating a pricking 
100+ times so should be more sturdily constructed, or replaced when it shows 
wear.

I have made edgings with two short sections of the pattern that were 
alternated.  I could really see the wear on the pattern pieces as I progressed. 
 I can usually do two or three yards on the pattern.  If I had gone further, I 
would have had to remake the prickings.

I have one friend who uses just the paper pattern for a small, quick project.  
She doesn't make it sturdy unless it's going to be used more than once.  She 
does beautiful work so it seems to work with her.  I want something a bit 
thicker, even for a small quickie.

My prickings are usually saved cause I never know when I may want to do the 
project again.  I do admit to needing a better system of storing these 
prickings.  I started putting them in three ring notebooks with plastic sheet 
protector pockets.  The notebooks were divided by the type of lace.  Sometimes 
I put the pricking in the book the pattern came from.  However...there's this 
stack of prickings that didn't get put anywhere. Maybe I need a private 
secretary to do these things so I can just make lace. G

Alice in Oregon .. on a very cold morning with icy streets, but it's supposed 
to warm up soon.


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I would like my prickings be to retained on quality stock and not only endure, 
but increase my ability to use them more than once for myself, though I don't 
know how many really go back and rework a pricking in their lifetime?

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[lace] prickings/needlelace

2009-09-02 Thread catherine
Janice Blair wrote:

The pattern was drawn on the plastic and then placed down on the felt so the
ink would not come off on the threads.  We were not working on any type of
pillow and the plastic gave the work some stability.  My piece is finished and
framed!  It may not be the best tensionwise, but I was happy with the effect.
Now I am working on a heart pattern I bought at convention and looking for
other ones to try.

Hi Janice

I don't use Architect's linen myself but a dark blue matt sticky backed
plastic, as the majority of my work is in white and using very fine threads.
I find the architect's linen does not give a great enough contrast for working
with these fine white threads but the dark blue is so much better.  However,
if one is using coloured or thicker threads, then it's great!  I don't use a
pillow either but hold the work in my hand, but do use a pillow when working a
piece of Venetian Gros Point, as it essential to have one hand free to
manipulate the sometimes large bundle of threads required for the padding.

You may like to see my 'Parasol for Iris' on the Guild of Needlelaces web
site.  Click on 'Gallery' at the top, then Catherine Barley and you will see a
small selection of my work.  Click on individual pictures to enlarge -
'Parasol for Iris' is the first image and I had some multi-purpose greeting
cards printed of the parasol which with the help of colleagues/friends I was
able to raise £1,512.00GBP
($2,440.33USD - 2,936.20AUD) which I sent earlier this year to Breast Cancer
Research.

Iris was a student of mine who over the years became a very dear friend but
sadly died of breast cancer and this little antique parasol originally
belonged to her.  When she passed away, I asked if I might have it and
complete the parasol for her but the work of two different hands was so
evident that I decided to start from scratch with a design of my own and here
you see the result of six years work from the initial design process to the
completed parasol.  To read more about the parasol click on 'click here'
towards the bottom of the page.

Catherine Barley
Henley-on-Thames. UK


http://www.guildofneedlelaces.org/

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Re: [lace] prickings/needlelace

2009-09-02 Thread Maureen Bromley

Dear All

I also use architects linen where I can when I work needlelace but agree 
with Catherine that architects linen is very pale. I had a reasonable 
store of this as I worked in a solicitors office and they used to use it for 
the plans on legal documents but now that everything is computerised they no 
longer have the linen.   Other than this I use the sticky backed plastic 
which is either dark green or a darkish blue which does, in my view, work 
just as  well.But it is a case of what works for you is best and as long 
as the lace looks good then the ends often justifies the means!!!   The most 
important thing to do is to enjoy what you do.   I do generally work on a 
pillow for my needlelace.   For me it works very well but I have worked it 
in my hand but again it is a case of what suits you best.


As for the Parasol for Iris that Catherine has worked, it is wonderful.

Apart from the Lace Day for the GofN do you teach any courses nowadays 
Catherine?


Maureen
East Yorkshire (where it is sunny/cloudy but dry, for the moment)





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[lace] prickings/needlelace

2009-09-01 Thread Janice Blair
Catherine wrote:

I have been given to understand that computers have now replaced the need for
Architect's linen but anyone you know who makes needlelace would be most
grateful to receive some.

I am not sure if I have seen Architects linen, but this summer I took my first 
ever needlelace class with Nancy Evans.  She had thoughtfully prepared the 
patterns for us and they were made up of a folded piece of soft felt and 
covered with a stiffish  plastic sheet which was thicker than plastic bags but 
I don't know the mm size.  The pattern was drawn on the plastic and then placed 
down on the felt so the ink would not come off on the threads.  We were not 
working on any type of pillow and the plastic gave the work some stability.  My 
piece is finished and framed!  It may not be the best tensionwise, but I was 
happy with the effect.  Now I am working on a heart pattern I bought at 
convention and looking for other ones to try.

Janice

 Janice Blair
Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA where it was nice 
and sunny today.
www.jblace.com
http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org

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Re: [lace] Re: Ipswich lace prickings

2009-05-13 Thread Diane Williams
She doesn't have a book, but Karen Thompson has been reproducing the Ipswich
patterns from the lace samples in the Library of Congress.  I've purchased
about 6 or 8 different patterns from her.  Karen is listed in the IOLI
directory, has written several articles for Piecework magazine, and I think
she's on this list.
 Diane Williams 
drswilli...@yahoo.com 
Galena Illinois
USA 
My blog - http://dianelaces.wordpress.com/

From: Tamara P Duvall t...@rockbridge.net
To: Lace Arachne lace@arachne.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 10:43:18 PM
Subject: [lace] Re: Ipswich lace prickings

On May 12, 2009, at 18:20, Elise
Hays wrote:

 I have the book The Laces of Ipswich by Marta Cotterell Raffel
 on order, but from what I can gather it is more of a history and has no

patterns.

It does have some patterns in it; 6, to be precise. As far as I
know, it's the only book that has ever attempted the reproduction of the
Ipswich lace.

-- Tamara P Duvall                           
http://t-n-lace.net/
Lexington, Virginia, USA    (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)
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Re: [lace] Ipswich lace prickings

2009-05-13 Thread Jeriames
Dear Arachnids,
 
Elise lives near me.  I'm able to take care of her  questions.
 
Jeri  Ames
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center  

 
In a message dated 5/13/2009 9:14:11 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
drswilli...@yahoo.com writes:

She  doesn't have a book, but Karen Thompson has been reproducing the  
Ipswich
patterns from the lace samples in the Library of Congress.   I've purchased
about 6 or 8 different patterns from her.  Karen is  listed in the IOLI
directory, has written several articles for Piecework  magazine, and I think
she's on this list.
Diane Williams  
drswilli...@yahoo.com 
Galena Illinois
USA 
My blog -  http://dianelaces.wordpress.com/

From:  Tamara P Duvall t...@rockbridge.net
To: Lace Arachne  lace@arachne.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 10:43:18  PM
Subject: [lace] Re: Ipswich lace prickings

On May 12, 2009, at  18:20, Elise
Hays wrote:

 I have the book The Laces of Ipswich  by Marta Cotterell Raffel
 on order, but from what I can gather it is  more of a history and has no

patterns.

It does have some  patterns in it; 6, to be precise. As far as I
know, it's the only book that  has ever attempted the reproduction of the
Ipswich lace.

-- Tamara P  Duvall 
http://t-n-lace.net/
Lexington, Virginia,  USA(Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)
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[lace] Re: Ipswich lace prickings

2009-05-13 Thread Tamara P Duvall

On May 13, 2009, at 11:22, jeria...@aol.com wrote:


Dear Arachnids,

Elise lives near me.  I'm able to take care of her  questions.


The question was asked on the list and answered on the list. I don't 
see a problem with that.

--
Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/
Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)

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[lace] Ipswich lace prickings

2009-05-12 Thread Elise and Scott Hays
 Does anyone know of a book of prickings (preferably with diagrams) for
Ipswich lace? I have the book The Laces of Ipswich by Marta Cotterell Raffel
on order, but from what I can gather it is more of a history and has no
patterns.  I know that examples of the lace and prickings exist, but I don't
know if anyone has compiled them into a collection or diagramed them. I tried
to contact the Ipswich museum but they are closed till Memorial Day. Anyone
out there know of such a thing?
Thank you!
Elise

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[lace] Re: Ipswich lace prickings

2009-05-12 Thread Tamara P Duvall

On May 12, 2009, at 18:20, Elise Hays wrote:


I have the book The Laces of Ipswich by Marta Cotterell Raffel
on order, but from what I can gather it is more of a history and has no
patterns.


It does have some patterns in it; 6, to be precise. As far as I know, 
it's the only book that has ever attempted the reproduction of the 
Ipswich lace.


--
Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/
Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)

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Re: [lace] Prickings and pillows....

2008-12-21 Thread robinlace
 Michele Griffin motherch...@gci.net wrote: 
what is a good, inexpensive pillow for teaching a new person and for someone 
that can't afford to go pillow comparison shopping.  All of our lace purchases 
(save thread) are made onlineso links would be great too.  -

Hey, don't go back to lurking.  Stay and chat awhile!  

Anyway, the best deal I know of for beginners in the US is Snowgoose, in 
Colorado.  They have the one and only, which is a kit.  It has an ethafoam 
disk with rounded outer corners and a recangular hole in the center, plus round 
cardboard to glue it to, foam-core to line the hole, and square and rectangular 
blocks and a cylinder to use in various combinations in the hole.  You cover it 
yourself and glue the foam core and cardboard to the ethafoam, and voila!  you 
have a block pillow *and* a roller pillow, all for USD30 (last time I checked, 
which was a couple of years ago).  

The pillow is perfectly serviceable, although not a work of art (depending on 
what fabric you choose, of course!).  The only drawback, IMO, is that it is 
rather light-weight and prone to slide toward you when tensioning.  I use a 
pillow stand with a stop on the front, so that's not a problem for me.  Some 
people consider it a drawback that you have to cover it yourself, but I know 
people who never covered theirs.  I cut mine in half before covering, so that I 
can fold it to pack in a suitcase.  I could never do that with an expensive 
pillow!

The Snowgoose home page is http://www.snowgoose.cc/
and I've been quite happy with the service.

If you want *really* cheap, you can make your own pillow from a block of 
industrial insulation (the blue stuff).  Padding with a couple of layers of 
felted wool (like an army blanket) or craft fleece (sold alongside quilt 
batting but not nearly so thick) is an excellent idea, but not crucial.  I've 
known people who started with a large block of packing styrofoam, but I don't 
recommend it.  Not only doesn't it hold the pins all that well, it squeeks a 
lot and quickly breaks down, shedding those tiny foam balls that it's made of.

just my opinions, of course
Robin P.
Los Angeles, California, USA

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Re: [lace] Prickings and pillows (2)....

2008-12-21 Thread robinlace
 Clay Blackwell clayblackw...@comcast.net wrote: 
Assuming you only work one piece at a time, this pillow will serve you 
for almost anything you want to make.  (But...  in honesty, only working 
one piece at a time is way more disciplined than most of us want to be!!)


Ah, but Clay, you can have a second project going on one of the extra blocks!  
One of the things I like about the OO (like other block pillows) is being able 
to swap out blocks to change projects (like at convention, to take two BL 
classes but travel with only one pillow).  When I was doing Rosa Libre pieces, 
comprising flower plus leaves plus dragonfly, I had each pricking on a separate 
block and started the second component while the first was still in pins.

Robin P.
Los Angeles, California, USA
robinl...@socal.rr.com

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Re: [lace] Prickings and pillows (2)....

2008-12-21 Thread Clay Blackwell
Yes, but to be strictly accurate, if you're using the pillow for more 
than one project, then you'll need to order and cover at least one extra 
block for each extra project!!  (But...  that's a pittance, compared to 
buying another pillow!!)


Also, I've known people who headed off the light-weight issue by 
mounting their OO on a 1/2 plywood base before covering it.  This 
makes it quite a bit heavier.  However, it's not quite as 
travel-friendly then.


Clay

robinl...@socal.rr.com wrote:
 Clay Blackwell clayblackw...@comcast.net wrote: 
Assuming you only work one piece at a time, this pillow will serve you 
for almost anything you want to make.  (But...  in honesty, only working 
one piece at a time is way more disciplined than most of us want to be!!)



Ah, but Clay, you can have a second project going on one of the extra blocks!  One 
of the things I like about the OO (like other block pillows) is being able to 
swap out blocks to change projects (like at convention, to take two BL classes but 
travel with only one pillow).  When I was doing Rosa Libre pieces, comprising 
flower plus leaves plus dragonfly, I had each pricking on a separate block and 
started the second component while the first was still in pins.

Robin P.
Los Angeles, California, USA
robinl...@socal.rr.com

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Re: [lace] Prickings and pillows....One and Only

2008-12-21 Thread Alice Howell
I have a One and Only that I got soon after learning BL and it's been in almost 
constant use for 15 years.  None of the blocks have needed replaced yet.  I 
also have a second one (which a friend is currently using) and plan to cover a 
third one which I won't lend out. G

I put a circle of felt on the bottom of mine to offset the slippery bottom 
problem.  With several of my pillows, I carry a square of rubber shelf padding 
to put under them when in use.  The OO's 20 width is my favorite size for 
most projects.

For transport in a suitcase, I cut 2.5 inches off the top of the pillow (making 
it D shaped).  It fits in an 18 width suitcase that way.  This section of 
the pillow at the top is not really used, anyway, and the resulting pillow is 
very attractive.Buy an extra block or two when getting the kit so blocks 
can be changed out when taking more than one class at a conference.

One hint...for anyone covering an OO:  Cut a finger hole under one of the 
blocks through the cardboard backing.  The blocks fit tightly and a hole aids 
tremendously in removing a block from the pillow.

The OO pillow is great for projects less than 4.5 inches wide since the blocks 
are 5 blocks.  It would be good for a lacemaker to also have a basic cookie 
pillow, perhaps 22-24 size, for circular projects more than 4.5 inches wide.  
This basic pillow could be made from insulation board inexpensively.

Alice in Oregon -- with 12-14 inches of snow on the ground and predictions of 4 
more days of snow before it warms up.  This is the most snow I've seen on the 
ground at one time in the 36 years I've lived here.  I alternate 
sweeping/shoveling snow, making cookies and etc in the kitchen, and finishing 
lace projects.  3 done and another getting close.  I'm planning my next 
projects as I finish the ones that are waiting.


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To: Arachne lace@arachne.com

The [One and On;y] pillow is perfectly serviceable, although not a work of art 
(depending on what fabric you choose, of course!).  The only drawback, IMO, is 
that it is rather light-weight and prone to slide toward you when tensioning. 

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Re: [lace] Prickings online? WOW

2008-11-01 Thread Sister Claire
Thank you everyone, on- and off-line. An embarrassment of choice.

This was the most ridiculous situation and you've helped me avoid
embarrassment.

Three chairs for Arachne!
Sr. Claire



 On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 8:35 AM, Sister Claire [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Hi all,

 I've got myself in a terrible pickle and I have to make a meter of Torchon
 edging... tonight! I don't have any pattern on hand.

 Does anyone know where on line I could find a Torchon edging either for
 free
 download or that I could pay for with Visa or PayPal and dowload right
 away?



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[lace] prickings

2006-09-17 Thread Agnes Boddington

I went on a course recently with Christine Springett.
Before the course, I received a questionaire, asking about my skills in 
lacemaking, and Bedfordshire lace in particular.
She then send a sheet with her own patterns on it, suggesting the ones 
suitable for me. I was asked to prepare a pricking of a couple of these, 
and possibly the next level of difficulty up, in case I finished the 
first ones very quickly.


Agnes Boddington - Ellourghton, UK
Bobbin maker - will ship worldwide

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Re: [lace] Prickings for workshops

2006-09-16 Thread Barbara Joyce
This is an exception, I'm quite sure, but Gunvor Jorgenson, who teaches
Tonder lace, comes to class with prickings already pricked on card stock and
distributes them to her students at the beginning of class!

Tonder is a Danish point-ground lace, similar in some ways to Bucks, but
with some very different techniques. Although Gunvor was born and grew up in
Denmark, she has been in this country for many years and speaks fluent
English. If you ever have a chance to take a class from her, by all means
do! 

Barbara Joyce

Snoqualmie, WA
USA

 I've been having a discussion with some Australian lacemaking friends about
 whether photocopied prickings should be supplied to participants before a
 workshop, so that they can prepare their prickings properly before the
 workshop begins.
 
 Some of us have been told that this is not done by European tutors, that
 paper prickings are only distributed at the workshop - indeed, the last two
 workshops I have been to in Australia with European tutors, we were expected
 to just place Contact over the paper pricking and start working.
 
 I much prefer to prepare my pricking on thin board beforehand, and
 pre-prick. 
 
 Can spiders let me know the usual practice please.
 
 Noelene in Cooma
 With Spring in the air, at least, even if it is still a bit chilly.
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Re: [lace] Prickings for workshops

2006-09-16 Thread robinlace
From: Noelene Lafferty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I've been having a discussion with some Australian lacemaking 
 friends about
 whether photocopied prickings should be supplied to participants 
 before a
 workshop, so that they can prepare their prickings properly before the
 workshop begins.


In my opinion, it can depend on the lace.  A coarse or simple pattern 
doesn't necessarily need pre-pricking anyway, or only takes a little 
while.  The tape laces could fall into this category, or Honiton (not 
that it's coarse! but it takes relatively few pinholes to make a tiny 
motif).  However, with the finer point ground laces, where there are a 
lot of pinholes close together, I'd sure like the pattern in advance.

But then some teachers come prepared with several patterns for students 
to choose among, and the students need to talk to the teacher about 
their ability so she can steer beginners to the simpler patterns and 
find appropriate challenges for the more advanced.  And someone who 
doesn't know this particular lace (after all, that's often why we take 
the class) may not be able to judge how difficult the pattern really is 
just from its pricking.  It would be very hard for a teacher to send 
the prickings in advance so they could be pricked.  Who should she send 
each pattern to?

Robin P.
Los Angeles, California, USA
(formerly  Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania)
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Re: [lace] Prickings for workshops

2006-09-16 Thread Alice Howell
In my experience, this varies with the teacher and the
lace.  At Arachne 98 conference, we met the teachers
the evening before classes started and got our
patterns.  We were to have them pricked by the time
class started.  This gave a brief meeting with the
teacher for choosing an appropriate pattern without
using class time.

Some teachers contact their students in advance of
class to  find out the skill level, and mail the
pattern so it can be ready.  Some teachers or laces
don't require pricked patterns, and just ask that the
students come with some cardboard and clear film to
set up their pricking at the start of class.

There may be some restriction if a copyrighted pattern
is being used.  Each class member would need to have a
copy of the book in order to use the pattern.  If the
teacher designed the pattern, then he/she can send it
out as they choose.

There's probably as many variations of pattern
procedure as there are teachers.  Do what the teacher
asks, or, if you are the teacher, do what works best
for your lace.  (Personal opinion, of course. G)

I have a little kit of tagboard pieces, clear and blue
film, pricker, permanent ink pen, highlighter and
scissors that I take to class -- just in case.

Alice in Oregon -- with my wedding edging just tied
off and ends finished, waiting for the linen center. 
Best 'end to beginning' attachment I've ever done.
Brag--brag--brag

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RE: [lace] Prickings for workshops

2006-09-16 Thread Ruth Budge
Well, neither the Australian, nor the English tutors who visit Australia
seem to have any trouble distributing patterns in advance.  The complete set
of pattern handouts is sent to either the Administrative Committee of the
Australian Lace Guild, or the local person organising a workshop.  

When a lacemaker registers for the workshop, she includes a large stamped,
addressed envelope for the return to her of the set of patterns.   If a
tutor wishes everyone in the workshop to start at the first pattern, she
says so.   Usually the patterns are either identified by skill-level or
technique, so that the lacemaker can decide which ones she needs to prepare.

Only last week I sent off multiple copies of all the patterns for three
different workshops to the leader of a group, together with clear
indications of the technical skills in each piece and guidance of how a
student should choose which patterns to prepare.

Certainly it takes a fair bit of preparation for the tutor, but it saves a
lot of time in the workshop, and means the student is better prepared.

Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia)


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It would be very hard for a teacher to send 
the prickings in advance so they could be pricked.  Who should she send 
each pattern to?

Robin P.
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Re: [lace] Prickings for lace

2003-08-17 Thread David Collyer
At 09:27 AM 16/08/03 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, can I suggest you are not using the right sort of blue film. The one me
and my friends use is not shiny but matt and does not make your pins sticky.
Dear Friends,
Can I also suggest that the shiny transparent plastic we get here is less 
than $1 for a long roll. You can very simply make it matt by a gentle rub 
with a NEW dish scourer. I use it all the time - no need for any pricking 
at all and  even though I rarely make anything twice, I do have a couple of 
favourites which I've made about 4 times and the pricking is still very 
useable. I find that the pale blue is best for white and ecru while green 
seems to suit black threads better.
Regards
David in Ballarat


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[lace] Prickings

2003-08-16 Thread Annette Gill
An alternative method is to cut the pricking slightly smaller than the
card,
and take a piece of 'blue transparent film' slightly larger, and use this to
attach the pricking to the card. You then have to prick all the holes, as
before, but you don't have to draw any lines. The main disadvantage of this
is the lack of accuracy, and the difficulty of getting the pins in (and
out).

I was told to do it this way and haven't had any problem with getting the pins
in.  As to accuracy, I'm not sure how it would be worse with this method - I
just try hard to prick dead vertically.

I don't have anything to prick onto yet, so I use the bottom of my polystyrene
mushroom pillow.  I've just bought a block pillow, and intend to use the side
of the blocks to prick.  I suppose I ought to go and get a polystyrene ceiling
tile from BQ!

Regards,
Annette,
London

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[lace] Prickings

2003-08-16 Thread Annette Gill
Linda,

Laminating - what a brilliant idea!  My office has a photocopier, a lot of
blue paper and a small laminator - I'm all set!

Thanks for the idea.

Annette,
London

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[lace] Prickings for lace

2003-08-16 Thread Jane Partridge
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Milada Marshall
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Following recent local talk about the method of doing prickings, may I ask
what is your normal / preferred method?

I usually use the first of Milada's two methods - although as I mostly
work my own designs, I rarely use photocopies.  Most of mine are pricked
straight from the graph paper draft, or from a print out if I have used
the computer to design the pattern (I use FastCAD - not one of the
specific lace programs, simply because we already have it on the
computer - it serves the purpose!).

In class, if a student brings in a book from which she wishes to do a
pattern, she is given the choice of either walking down to the local
photocopy shop to make a photocopy, redrafting the pattern onto graph
paper, (particularly if it is not a very true pattern to start with!) or
tracing the pattern onto tracing paper.  The pricking is then made on
pricking card, the pattern markings transferred first in pencil (easier
to correct if you make a mistake in copying at that stage), then drawn
over with a fine, *waterproof* pen. Finally the pencil markings are
erased.  I (personally) mainly use one of Winslow's prickers but if
using my pin vice use a size 8 Sharp/Quilters needle in it.  

An alternative method is to cut the pricking slightly smaller than the card,
and take a piece of 'blue transparent film' slightly larger, and use this to
attach the pricking to the card. You then have to prick all the holes, as
before, but you don't have to draw any lines. The main disadvantage of this
is the lack of accuracy, 

One of the main reasons I only use this method for very complex patterns
(and in some methods of needlelace, though I still have some architects'
linen) is that it adds to the cost of the pricking rather unnecessarily.
In changing the colour of the card away from the standard manilla brown,
it is more likely to blend in with the colour of thread I am using at
the time (often greens and blues).  I don't really see how it affects
your accuracy, Milada - if you use a photocopy to produce the pricking
in both methods, then accuracy is down to whether or not the photocopy
is distorted, not the film covering it; and the first method leaves more
room for mistake.  Also, the pattern is less likely to slip if it is
stuck in place!  I was taught to use this latter method when I first
started making lace, and in addition to using the film to hold the
pattern to the card, we were taught to use a Pritt stick (solid PVA glue
stick) to glue the photocopy to the card first.

Of course, working Honiton patterns, you dispense with the need for ink
markings altogether - pattern indications are marked by pin holes.  Here
I do tend to use a photocopy or tracing of the original - my present
very long term project being one of Ann Orr's Quilting designs (the
prick and pounce markings on the pattern sheet were usefully at the
right spacing for the pinholes!).

One method of copying a pattern I haven't tried is the old heel-ball
method, where a rubbing is made of a pricking, and then the new pattern
pricked from the rubbing.  Does anyone still do this?
-- 
Jane Partridge

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Re: [lace] Prickings

2003-08-16 Thread Steph Peters
On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 07:26:16 +0100, Annette wrote:
I don't have anything to prick onto yet, so I use the bottom of my polystyrene
mushroom pillow.  I've just bought a block pillow, and intend to use the side
of the blocks to prick.  I suppose I ought to go and get a polystyrene ceiling
tile from BQ!

When I first started making lace I used an odd bit of polystyrene tile as a
pricking board.  After about a year someone persuaded me to blow an entire
GBP1.50 on a cork pricking board.  This is so much better to use than the
tile, that you should order one Annette.  Then go to Sainsburys and look for
wax coated paper for baking and wrap the cork tile in the wax paper.  Every
time you prick the needle picks up a tiny bit of wax from the paper, making
it slide more easily through the card.  One wrapping of the paper lasts
ages, so one roll is a lifetime's worth (well unless you use it for cooking
as well).
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Re: [lace] Prickings for lace

2003-08-16 Thread Steph Peters
On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 16:34:04 +0100, Milada wrote:
Following recent local talk about the method of doing prickings, may I ask
what is your normal / preferred method?
I use 2 methods, depending on whether I need to work repeats on the same
pricking for that piece of lace. My choice of methods is determined by the
fact that I find working on sticky plastic unpleasant.  It makes the pins
sticky, makes doing sewings harder and reflections from the shiny surface
make it hard to see the lace in some lighting set ups.  So I put a bit of
effort in to prepare a pricking I find pleasant to work with.

For a single use pricking I scan the pattern into the computer, adjust its
size and print it on light blue 160g/square meter card.  I find light blue a
good colour for most of my lace, but some day soon I shall buy a pack in a
darker colour as well.  A pack of 100 sheets of this card from one of the
office supply warehouse places is quite cheap and lasts for years.  If I
want to make the same pattern again I just reprint on another piece of card.
This method does depend on keeping all the scans saved at the right size on
the computer, and having computer backups to restore them if anything goes
wrong.  The card is light enough to use without pre-pricking; the pins go
through it easily.  As a result I can use this method for laces like Withof
that don't have premarked pinholes.  The possible drawback to computer
printed prickings is that the ink might run if it gets wet.  My laser
printed prickings won't run, but test your printer because some inks will
run when wet.

If I'm doing an edging where I will work over the same pricking more than
once then I like to preprick through brown card.  The needle I use for
pre-pricking has a smaller diameter than the pins for the piece.  Thicker
and sturdier card is better for Honiton, because the same pin comes in and
out several times and the pinhole is used to make the sewing.  I find glazed
card is nicer to work on than unglazed.
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Re: [lace] Prickings for lace

2003-08-16 Thread WaltonVS
Hi, can I suggest you are not using the right sort of blue film. The one me 
and my friends use is not shiny but matt and does not make your pins sticky. 

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[lace] Prickings for lace

2003-08-16 Thread Margot Walker
If I'm going to use the pricking only once, I photocopy it on blue paper 
and iron fusible interfacing to the back.  There's no need to prick and 
I've had good results with this easy method.

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Re: [lace] Prickings

2003-08-16 Thread alice howell
At 08:32 AM 8/16/2003 +0100, you wrote:
Laminating - what a brilliant idea!  My office has a photocopier, a lot of
blue paper and a small laminator - I'm all set!


A word of caution -- there are different weights of laminating film.  Be
sure you have the very lightest/thinnest weight for  patterns.  Some of
the heavier weights are very difficult to pin through.  Try one and test
it before making a bunch of them.

For myself, I do the common paper pattern on file folder (tagboard) with
a transparent adhesive film on top.  The color of the adhesive film is
determined by the thread color.  Clear for colored threads and colored
for light threads.  I found colored transparent removable bookcover films
in the dollar store (and stationery stores) that give me a color choice.
However, since the film is removable, it does not stick permanently.  The
edges of the film need to be taped to the tagboard backing to be sure
that they don't loosen or shift.  This work fine for one-time patterns.

I find that I can use these pattern 6-8 times before the holes become
worn.  If a pattern is needed more than that, I make another one.  In
fact, if I'm in production (like making a rose bouquet), I set up two
patterns on two pillows and just alternate them.  One can be worked on
while the other is resting the completed lace.

Happy lacing,


Happy lacing,

Alice in Oregon - Gained 2 students from county fair demo!!
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Re: [lace] Prickings

2003-08-16 Thread Edith Holmes
I use a cork mat, and pricking parchment that I get from lace suppliers.  I
have two sizes of cork mat, as it's not easy having to move large prickings
halfway through.  I put a photocopy of the piece on top, fixed with paper
clips and use drawing pins to hold the two sheets firmly in place on the
cork.

I rub over the top sheet with a piece of beeswax.  Wax paper is not easily
available (not the same as baking parchment, which is more similar to
greaseproof paper).  I used to use it for making collars for royal iced
cakes.

Don't forget that some pieces of lace need a mirror image copy for the
second half (collars and lappets particularly) .

Edith
North Nottinghamshire
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[lace] Prickings

2003-08-16 Thread Jean Nathan
The inner packet of cereal boxes used to be grease-proof paper (nice and
waxy), but now they all seem to be going for foil.

Jean in Poole

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