Re: [lace] Thomas Lester by Anne Buck
Hello, I guess if I had had a teacher insisting on me learning straight Torchon if I all I wanted to do is some nice, flowery Beds, I’d not be as positive towards it, either. I am sorry about the way things went with your friend, but I do wonder why she let that teacher frustrate her so much. It’s not like we were children who have to do what teacher says. We don’t even have to stay in class and often there isn’t a class anywhere near where we could learn what we want to. Look at yourself, learning about those different Point Ground Laces from books. So maybe she just needs a good Beds beginners' book and a bit of your encouragement and attitude? Gabriele - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Thomas Lester by Anne Buck
She was fuming about it the other day but when I asked if she wanted me to send pictures of lace that I see at the English museums she said yes! Hope springs eternal... Susan Sent from my iPad - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Thomas Lester by Anne Buck
Sue, Maybe you need to treat her to a gift of beginning Beds lessons. Failing that, get her a book that she can self learn from... graded patterns from super easy that teach something new with each progressive pattern. That is how I self taught myself Buckspoint and I refused to do Torchon as well. I think I would have quit if I had been forced to start with Torchon. I am sure it has it’s fans and I don’t mean to belittle anyone! I simply have to do what tweaks my pleasure centres! Bucks point was it for me! Love at first sight! Don’t give up on your friend and feel free to share this with her! I am sure you know enough about lace to get her started, or to answer any questions she may have! Cearbhael (Angel) Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 2, 2019, at 8:18 AM, Susan wrote: > In the meantime, I am working on lace that offers greater aesthetic appeal > (for me) or piques my curiosity. It’s much easier to learn something you > embrace wholeheartedly. Torchon clearly affects people differently & it > nearly derailed my own journey. At this point, my personal goal is to reverse > the negative effects of “Torchon teaching” for a friend who was interested in > learning Beds. After months of being bored! > to tears because the teacher insisted she start with Torchon, she abandoned > lace altogether. She still has her pillow & supplies but I haven’t been able > to persuade her to take it out of the top of the closet. YET! Just sayin’... > Sincerely, Susan Hottle FL USA > - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Thomas Lester by Anne Buck
Thank you for your opinions Clay & Gabriele. You could have knocked me over with a feather when I read AB’s quote! We all have preferences so it’s only natural that one—or more—styles of lace winds up at the bottom of someone’s list. The same is true for music, literature, whatever. With apologies in advance to our Arachne musicologists, a half hour of Bach is a half hour too much for ME! To be fair, my class with Jane Atkinson did open my eyes to more options with Torchon & I think I would benefit from another class or two to see where that leads. In the meantime, I am working on lace that offers greater aesthetic appeal (for me) or piques my curiosity. It’s much easier to learn something you embrace wholeheartedly. Torchon clearly affects people differently & it nearly derailed my own journey. At this point, my personal goal is to reverse the negative effects of “Torchon teaching” for a friend who was interested in learning Beds. After months of being bored! to tears because the teacher insisted she start with Torchon, she abandoned lace altogether. She still has her pillow & supplies but I haven’t been able to persuade her to take it out of the top of the closet. YET! Just sayin’... Sincerely, Susan Hottle FL USA Sent from my iPad - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Thomas Lester by Anne Buck
Susan wrote: > Had to chuckle at another quote: “Torchon, an unsophisticated lace of > repetitive geometric patterns based on diagonals with a heavy, five hole > mesh...” Most of you know that Torchon is not my favorite & AB managed to > capture my sentiments in a nutshell. Are you prepared to discuss this with Jane Atkinson, Ulrike Voelcker, or maybe Mika Toyoda? Just to mention three who created very different, but remarkable Torchon designs. ;-) Gabriele - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Thomas Lester by Anne Buck
Hi Susan! Thanks for the book review. I am going to take this opportunity to disagree with the source of your quote regarding their assessment of Torchon. Actually, I believe that like any other lace style, Torchon is quite lovely when used by talented designers, and worked by sensitive lace makers who appreciate the scale of the lace and the nuances of various thread sizes. Not only is it attractive when worked well, it provides a new lacemaker with a long range of skills which can be adapted to more complicated laces. Clay Sent from my iPad > On Apr 1, 2019, at 4:13 PM, Susan wrote: > > Since I just finished reading the book, I wanted to recommend it & quote: > > “Mrs Armstrong, born in 1860 at Thurleigh, said (1943) that in her prime she > could work about a yard & a half of Bedfordshire Maltese border, one & one > half inches wide in two days. For this, Lester would pay her 1s 6d a yard so > that for a full weeks work she might earn 6 or 7 shillings.” > > I had to look up to see what 1s 6d is—thank you Google. Aside from the > income, however, I can’t imagine making that much lace in that amount of > time! Talk about flying fingers... > > Had to chuckle at another quote: “Torchon, an unsophisticated lace of > repetitive geometric patterns based on diagonals with a heavy, five hole > mesh...” Most of you know that Torchon is not my favorite & AB managed to > capture my sentiments in a nutshell. Sincerely, Susan Hottle FL USA > > Sent from my iPad > > - > To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: > unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to > arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
