Re: [StatusNet-dev] s/Flickr/StatusNet/
James Walker wrote: Resist the temptation to have StatusNet do it all (tm). That's Drupal's Job. (TM) B-) This is currently a nice piece of software that is on the right track towards being a great micro-messaging tool. Fair point, and thanks for the kudos. So, by allowing files - StatusNet offers those interested a nice / integrated alternative to using the twitpic/yfrog/etc's of the world - but I'd try to stay focused. OK. I guess when you've got a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Just looking over different sites like Flickr, blip.fm, last.fm, delicious, etc. so many of them could be fairly easily re-implemented with StatusNet. Considering what a difficult problem efficient status sharing can be, it's interesting to me to see how we can help people who want to implement it elsewhere. my $0.02 CA Well spent! -Evan -- Evan Prodromou CEO, StatusNet, Inc. e...@status.net - http://identi.ca/evan - +1-514-554-3826 ___ Laconica-dev mailing list Laconica-dev@laconi.ca http://mail.laconi.ca/mailman/listinfo/laconica-dev
Re: [StatusNet-dev] s/Flickr/StatusNet/
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Evan Prodromou e...@status.net wrote: James Walker wrote: Resist the temptation to have StatusNet do it all (tm). That's Drupal's Job. (TM) B-) It is - and it's messy work :-P This is currently a nice piece of software that is on the right track towards being a great micro-messaging tool. Fair point, and thanks for the kudos. They're well deserved :-) So, by allowing files - StatusNet offers those interested a nice / integrated alternative to using the twitpic/yfrog/etc's of the world - but I'd try to stay focused. OK. I guess when you've got a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Just looking over different sites like Flickr, blip.fm, last.fm, delicious, etc. so many of them could be fairly easily re-implemented with StatusNet. To me - a general guideline would be things that are time/stream based make good sense - so things like a flickr-ish photostream, blip.fm absolutely, last.fm from a sense of tracking each song (have you seen http://libre.fm/ yet?), delicious is a good fit. Considering what a difficult problem efficient status sharing can be, it's interesting to me to see how we can help people who want to implement it elsewhere. Status update + extra/structured info (location, images, audio, a URL) is powerful stuff - and I think via the API, you can build really interesting stuff on top of it. -- James Walker :: http://walkah.net/ :: xmpp:wal...@walkah.net ___ Laconica-dev mailing list Laconica-dev@laconi.ca http://mail.laconi.ca/mailman/listinfo/laconica-dev
Re: [StatusNet-dev] s/Flickr/StatusNet/
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 12:05 PM, James Walker wal...@walkah.net wrote: Hey laconica^Wstatusnet dev! Long time lurker, first time caller ;-) 2009/9/11 Evan Prodromou e...@status.net: So, what would it take to build a lightweight photo-sharing service like Flickr using StatusNet? I don't think very much. Since we allow file uploading, you could have a notice per photo (notice text provides the description), and comments would just be replies. As a long-in-the-tooth Drupal developer (who was at one time responsible for a bunch of the Drupal code that folks were using to s/Flickr/Drupal/), I would like to say: Resist the temptation to have StatusNet do it all (tm). This is currently a nice piece of software that is on the right track towards being a great micro-messaging tool. While I support Walkah's point — and worry that feature expansion could lead to dangerous distraction (especially if we don't start with the UI first), I can see how attachment could be very useful, considering both Yammer's approach to file sharing (basically as attachments/enclosures in the ATOM/RSS sense) and this little app I found called Freshlog: http://freshlog.com/ Basically you can imagine being able to toss up images into your stream — from an app or from a mobile device — and that it would constitute your status. Rather than worry about the Flickr API, it seems that XML-RPC and SMTP would be better approaches to getting images into the system, no? Chris -- Chris Messina Open Web Advocate Personal: http://factoryjoe.com Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/chrismessina Citizen Agency: http://citizenagency.com Diso Project: http://diso-project.org OpenID Foundation: http://openid.net This email is: [ ] bloggable[X] ask first [ ] private ___ Laconica-dev mailing list Laconica-dev@laconi.ca http://mail.laconi.ca/mailman/listinfo/laconica-dev
Re: [StatusNet-dev] s/Flickr/StatusNet/
Hey laconica^Wstatusnet dev! Long time lurker, first time caller ;-) 2009/9/11 Evan Prodromou e...@status.net: So, what would it take to build a lightweight photo-sharing service like Flickr using StatusNet? I don't think very much. Since we allow file uploading, you could have a notice per photo (notice text provides the description), and comments would just be replies. As a long-in-the-tooth Drupal developer (who was at one time responsible for a bunch of the Drupal code that folks were using to s/Flickr/Drupal/), I would like to say: Resist the temptation to have StatusNet do it all (tm). This is currently a nice piece of software that is on the right track towards being a great micro-messaging tool. Here's my list of things that would make a FlickrLite with StatusNet workable: File upload in the API. Privacy? Sharing only with family, friends, or a particular group? Is that 100% necessary? Marking each notice and file with license info? I think so. In-line view of images. Tagging others' notices? Could this work by just replying to a notice and including the tag? Sure, that'll give you the basic photo sharing, photostream aspect of Flickr - and some of the per-image features. But are you going to get into: * Geotagging / mapping images? * Sets and Pools? * Offering the Flickr API for uploading images? Also, I haven't looked, but have you dealt with image manipulation (generating managing various sizes/derivative images from the source yet?). etc. Am I missing anything? This doesn't seem like rocket science. There may be some things that need to be done in core; others would work fine in plugins. So, by allowing files - StatusNet offers those interested a nice / integrated alternative to using the twitpic/yfrog/etc's of the world - but I'd try to stay focused. (Also, please no FlickrLite ... bad enough Facebook released their 'Lite' today ;-) ) my $0.02 CAD -- James Walker :: http://walkah.net/ :: xmpp:wal...@walkah.net ___ Laconica-dev mailing list Laconica-dev@laconi.ca http://mail.laconi.ca/mailman/listinfo/laconica-dev
